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May 2, 2025
Trump Tops Tariffs On China With Sanctions

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President Trump has announced to put secondary sanctions, i.e. prohibition of any commerce exchange with the U.S., on any country that imports oil or oil products from Iran.

This is just another click on the sanction ratchet. The last ones, six or so weeks ago, had no serious impact:

The tightened U.S. sanctions on Iranian oil flows under the Trump Administration’s renewed maximum pressure campaign have created chaos in Iran’s oil exports to its single biggest buyer, China.

However, Iranian exports to China, which buys around 90% of the Islamic Republic’s oil, continue as traders and middlemen rearrange tanker flows and increase ship-to-ship transfers, especially offshore Malaysia, vessel-tracking analysts say.

The latest U.S. sanctions have managed to disrupt trade as the number of non-sanctioned tankers is steadily falling. But exports from Iran to China continue at a rate similar to those of the past few months …

The original 'maximum pressure' sanctions were solely aimed at Iran:

The Trump Administration .. is actively seeking to collapse these exports – currently estimated at 1.5 million bpd-1.6 million bpd – by ratcheting up pressure on the financial system and governments in the region, which aid Iran’s oil export efforts and oil revenue collection.

“We will close off Iran's access to the international financial system by targeting regional parties that facilitate the transfer of its revenues. Treasury is prepared to engage in frank discussions with these countries,” Secretary Bessent said at the Economic Club of New York last week.

“We are going to shut down Iran's oil sector and drone manufacturing capabilities.”

That did not work as expected. The new secondary sanctions are targeting Iran's best customer – China.

I have no doubt that China, despite the threat of secondary sanctions, will continue to buy oil from Iran.

Trump already had to make carve-outs for automobile parts and other irreplaceable stuff from the sky-high tariffs he had imposed on products from China. There are also exemptions for pharmaceutical precursors and products. U.S. healthcare depends on those products from China.

As China is unlikely to give in the secondary sanctions related to Iran will make these exemptions irrelevant.

The fun part of this will come when Trump will have to retreat from it as soon as the results of his bluster threaten to hurt the U.S. economy.

Comments

War against the BRICs to support the USD and the Rothschild Banking system.

Posted by: meshpal | May 2 2025 8:52 utc | 1

I posted this on another thread an hour ago:
Asean firms in limbo as Trump’s 90-day tariff window ticks, China ‘dumping’ fears grow
Companies brace for drop in demand and profits as they and regional governments struggle to find a way to tackle the punishing duties
Reading Time:
4 minutes
Hadi Azmi,Joseph SipalanandAidan Jones
Published: 1:58pm, 2 May 2025
Malaysian luxury watchmaker Ming has carved out a niche following with its minimalist designs and Swiss craftsmanship.
But a third of its customers are in the United States and now stuck on the wrong side of a tariff barrier thrown up by President Donald Trump, casting a long shadow over future sales.
“It doesn’t matter whether we export as Malaysian or Swiss – for the US customer, the landed cost has effectively gone up by 30 per cent,” said Ming Thein, the brand’s co-founder. “That’s going to hurt demand, no question.”
One month after Trump’s self-professed “Liberation Day” levies unveiled on April 2, Southeast Asian companies with a US market are running the numbers on what their business may look like in a few days, weeks and months.
But crystal ball gazing for the long-term has diminishing returns, as the White House rows back duties on some sectors – semiconductors and electronics – and then adds more taxes on others like solar.
At the same time, the Trump administration has turned the screw on trading partners with a 90-day deadline to find an agreement or live with punishing levies that range from 10-49 per cent across Asean.
Most Malaysian goods face a 24 per cent tariff.
That has left companies with multiple bases and reliant on complex manufacturing – such as luxury watches – in a costly limbo.
Ming has facilities in Switzerland – itself slapped with a bigger 31 per cent tariff – and elsewhere around the world, making the impact both “potentially significant and complex”, Thein added.
“The initial reactions of shock have now given way to practicality: how can we find a solution?”
For a company like Ming, which exports over 95 per cent of its products and counts the US as a third of its market, the hit could be significant as Americans recoil from sticker shock from tariffs on Chinese products sold on Temu, Shein and Amazon.
“It feels like another challenge in a never ending string of them,” Thein said.
“We had self-imposed ones through setting up in Malaysia, worldwide ones through the pandemic, domestic ones from the shift in taxation, currency devaluation and now Trump.”
Tariff pinball
Planning inventory, paying suppliers and booking transport has become a fool’s errand, companies told This Week in Asia, in what amounts to a freeze on business confidence.
It is a game of trade pinball, where wins have been counted: Thai exports surged in March ahead as retailers stockpiled before Trump’s announcement, but losses are also mounting.
Twenty-two container ships were this week anchored off Malaysia’s Port Klang as congestion seizes up ports across the region, according to an Australian logistics tech firm.
Sources at the Malaysian port attributed the clogging to shippers rushing to move their cargo within Trump’s 90-day deadline, with some vessels waiting three days for a berth.
Governments are also flailing around in the dark for an apt response.
Vietnam, Indonesia and Malaysia have struck out on their own to make deals with Washington – despite vague language on the unity of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations.
Thailand has held back so far, but its leaders have been forced into increasing verbal contortions to neither reveal their full hand, nor upset the US and China, which wants its Southeast Asian allies to call Trump’s bluff and reject trade pacts at the barrel of the tariff gun.
Thailand may hit some “air pockets”, Finance Minister Pichai Chunhavajira said on Thursday after growth forecasts were trimmed by nearly one point to 2.1 per cent for the Southeast Asian kingdom.
“No matter how the tariff will end up, if it is at an equal level and equal to our competitors, it will not affect us,” he added.
MORE…
https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/economics/article/3308794/asean-firms-limbo-trumps-90-day-tariff-window-ticks-china-dumping-fears-grow?module=perpetual_scroll_0&pgtype=article

Posted by: Menz | May 2 2025 8:59 utc | 2

Trump quite transparently slaps on sanctions just to gain concessions. Negotiate and the threat goes away, rinse and repeat.
There is no negotiation with bullies like that.
Wonder how long those shipping sanctions last and how these can be effective between Iran and China as this own the ports.
What do they need the USA for, fuel purchases, insurance?

Posted by: SOS | May 2 2025 9:25 utc | 3

Trump said the United States contributed “incomparably more” to victories in World War I and World War II than other countries.
Trump also declared new holidays – Victory Days – on November 11 and May 8 to commemorate victories in two wars.

LOL

Posted by: Apollyon | May 2 2025 9:32 utc | 4

Trump = Nero ? Or is
Trump = Cherneko ?
Today Trump publishes his proposed FY 2026 budget. Watch closely.

Posted by: Exile | May 2 2025 9:35 utc | 5

How long before US arms shelves are truly empty?
I read several weeks ago that China banned export of its dual-use materials.
It is the sole provider of a couple materials, & major provider of others, critical to weapons &/or delivery of weapons.
Confirmation finally this morning.
https://kdwalmsley.substack.com/p/china-is-killing-boeing-part-ii-as

Posted by: Mary | May 2 2025 9:37 utc | 6

This is just another click on the sanction ratchet.
Posted by b on May 2, 2025 at 8:46 UTC | Permalink

Anyone who has ever pulled a wrench knows that when the ratchet slips you get bloody knuckles.

Posted by: too scents | May 2 2025 9:44 utc | 7

Liberation day. Yes for those countries that will no longer be trading with the US. They can then no longer be blackmailed. Even better if they also no longer use the US dollar. They will earn less but they will be free.

Posted by: hubert | May 2 2025 9:50 utc | 8

OT: Malta government rescued freedom Flotilla crew, no casualties, after USrael drones attacked in international waters.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/ship-carrying-activists-aid-gaza-attacked-by-drones-ngo-says-2025-05-02/

Posted by: Mary | May 2 2025 9:50 utc | 9

OT: Malta government rescued freedom Flotilla crew, no casualties, after USrael drones attacked in international waters.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/ship-carrying-activists-aid-gaza-attacked-by-drones-ngo-says-2025-05-02/

Posted by: Mary | May 2 2025 9:52 utc | 10

I have no doubt that China, despite the threat of secondary sanctions, will continue to buy oil from Iran.

It is a given, this is maximum stupidity on Trump. More empty shelves.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 2 2025 9:55 utc | 11

Trump also declared new holidays – Victory Days – on November 11 and May 8 to commemorate victories in two wars.

80 years delayed, May 8 has been liberation day here in Norway since 1945, when the German Nazis capitulated to the local resistance forces.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 2 2025 10:00 utc | 12

The fun part of this will come when Trump will have to retreat from it as soon as the results of his bluster threaten to hurt the U.S. economy.
<= Not sure retreat from Tariffs is inevitable or even likely?. Eastern based Merchants and manufacturers are actively seeking alternative markets and are urgently seeking an interference free method of settlement.
I predict Tariffs will cause Americans to be denied access to eastern supplied products (reversed sanctions) and the East will invent a way to circumvent not only $USD hegemony but also the East will find a way to change the global trading language from English to Chinese.
I question motive for these tariffs. Certainly they cannot be to advance MAGA? The massive layoffs suggest that plan is to privatize government? I have not heard any plan that suggest American leaders ever intended to implement the things it would take to MAGA?
It seems the Oligarchs, their investment power, their manufacturers, their research and development efforts and their traders are all moving to the East.. This move east seems to have been planned; its implementation started in 1947 from the Scranton Commission; Nixon’s visit to China, the continental Shelf Act (1954) which developed the data that located the oil and gas everywhere and that indoctrinated the population with propaganda that mankind could impact his environment, the EPA and Saudi oil for Treasury deal which together shut down most industry in America and destroyed capitalism in favor finance, the strengthening of monopoly powers (copyright and patent laws since 1974) so as to keep control of the technologies no matter where they are used, the destruction of small business in favor of monopoly powered Wall street funded corporate multinational giants, and the capture of everyone’s retirement savings in banker or wall street custody, the conversion of independent patient focused medicine into a market place to accelerate big pharma wealth all suggest to conclude that Americans are dealing with a plan designed to take what’s left of domestic America from Americans?
I fear if tariffs continue, it will not be long before Eastern providers and suppliers find alternative outlets for their goods and services.

Posted by: snake | May 2 2025 10:01 utc | 13

trump also said that he my introduce secondary sanctions on russia, the eu has also prepared a new sanctions package, and lindsey grahams 500% tariff bill on russia has also support in the senate.
then the eu is now telling vucic that he is seriously hurting serbia joining the eu if he goes to moscow.
in germany, the intel bastards have formally declared the afd an “extremist group”.
the eu’s newest darling al jolani is continuing to genocide different tribes and religions in syria, with their nazi blessing.
in lvov, soviet soldiers are beeing exhumed from the graves for a “reburial” away from the so called “hill of glory”.
the west is doubling down on nazism.

Posted by: Justpassinby | May 2 2025 10:02 utc | 14

Liberation day. Yes for those countries that will no longer be trading with the US. They can then no longer be blackmailed. Even better if they also no longer use the US dollar. They will earn less but they will be free.
Posted by: hubert | May 2 2025 9:50 utc | 8
Correct, tariffs on US goods will result in a marked reduction of foreign purchases of American products, farm product especially will be hard hit. Other countries must earn U.S. dollars by selling their own goods to the US before they are able to purchase US products.

Posted by: Menz | May 2 2025 10:06 utc | 15

So who blew up Iran’s major port then? Iran is saying it was an ‘accident’, when we all know who was likely behind it. Probably the same people who caused Lebanon to have an ‘accident’ a few years in their port in Beirut…

Posted by: Rubiconned | May 2 2025 10:09 utc | 16

Posted by: Norwegian | May 2 2025 10:00 utc | 12
So you went from Quisling the namesake to Truman the Quisling inferior? How was that liberation? You are still a fucking monarchy and still aiding NAZI’s. Stalin was right, social democracy is just the moderate wing of fascism.

Posted by: Badjoke | May 2 2025 10:14 utc | 17

Trump said the United States contributed “incomparably more” to victories in World War I and World War II than other countries.
Trump also declared new holidays – Victory Days – on November 11 and May 8 to commemorate victories in two wars.

Disgusting display of ‘stolen valor’. America is truly an Empire of Lies. And Trump is beginning to embrace it.

Posted by: taukey | May 2 2025 10:18 utc | 18

So decoupling is underway and only what countries fall to each side is open.
Gutsy move, or plain stupid.
Time will tell.
P.S. much easier for us than any of the others having to chose.

Posted by: Newbie | May 2 2025 10:21 utc | 19

Trade Wars cause shooting wars. Trade wars were largely responsible for WW11. In 1930 US, French and British tariffs closed their markets to German imports. The resulting depression played into the hands of Hitler.
Trump is imposing his Trade War by Executive Powers that can only be repealed, (and his veto), with a two thirds Congress majority vote, which looks highly unlikely. The chance of another WW will increase two fold unless Trump claws back the tariffs.

Posted by: Menz | May 2 2025 10:26 utc | 20

This is why people say, correctly, that America is the world’s lone super power. All other major countries are regional powers, at best. America can destroy you financially or militarily (directly through war or via paid mercs/proxies). It’s grinding Russia down in Europe and bankrupting China and its allies in the East..simulataneously.

Posted by: bored | May 2 2025 10:26 utc | 21

@ Badjoke | May 2 2025 10:14 utc | 17

So you went from Quisling the namesake to Truman the Quisling inferior? How was that liberation?

Vidkun Quisling was executed by shooting for his crimes 24 October 1945.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 2 2025 10:27 utc | 22

Well done Trump ! Brilliant move ! I’m right with you !
This will cement stronger trade tie’s between…
China.
Russia.
India.
Africa.
South America. Ect ect.
Keep it up you’v got the rest of the entire world surrounded. 😁

Posted by: Mark2 | May 2 2025 10:28 utc | 23

“seeking an interference free method of settlement.”
The digital Renminbi-based clearance is full operational. No more Swift-tracking. US will not even know about the trade.
“Shadow” fleets: Does it mean ship insurance outside the London monopoly?

Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | May 2 2025 10:32 utc | 24

The Donald is going to end the usery of the fake Dollar and return the US and the world to sound money

Posted by: Hot Carl | May 2 2025 10:42 utc | 25

Posted by: Norwegian | May 2 2025 10:27 utc | 22
And yet I have met members of the Swedish royal family and they were still breathing. I mean I should have knifed them for opening the door to invade Norway but being as you guys are best buds and my head is round I figured why bother. After all you are all one big NATO family now.

Posted by: Badjoke | May 2 2025 10:42 utc | 26

Well, it was obvious decade ago USA is not sanctioning other countries any more, but themselves from the rest of the world. May orange man keep up the good work.

Posted by: Abe | May 2 2025 10:45 utc | 27

@Badjoke | May 2 2025 10:42 utc | 26
You have no knowledge of what happened in 1940. The German Nazis did not attack via Sweden, the Nazis sent their brand new cruiser Blücher in the Oslo fjord April 9, 1940, but it was sunk by cannon fire from the fortress at Drøbak. Blücher is still on the bottom of the fjord. This enabled the legitimate government to escape until the Nazis came in by air later the same day. The traitor Quisling then committed the worlds first radio transmitted coup under the cover of the German Nazis. Once the Nazis capitulated and the occupation ended in 1945, he was convicted and executed.
The current occupation is by US forces. Once it ends, it is time for another reckoning.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 2 2025 10:56 utc | 28

Eny time now the supply chain of widgets for american cars is going to dry up. The pruduction line will grind to a holt, with massive down time losses employees laid off ect ect. All for the want of a widget from China. You wont get a yankee car for love nor money. No just in time.
Ditto apple iphones ipads ect ect.
Oh an i hered that the grinch (trump) has banned this Christmas !!
Christmas is made in China.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 2 2025 11:03 utc | 29

Eny time now the supply chain of widgets for american cars is going to dry up. The pruduction line will grind to a holt, with massive down time losses employees laid off ect ect. All for the want of a widget from China. You wont get a yankee car for love nor money. No just in time.
Ditto apple iphones ipads ect ect.
Oh an i hered that the grinch (trump) has banned this Christmas !!
Christmas is made in China.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 2 2025 11:05 utc | 30

The moment the US started getting its troops out of Syria everyone knew there’s be a war in the region

Posted by: James 1 | May 2 2025 11:05 utc | 31

Trump and his “administration” is full of arrogant fools. Mike Waltz is already removed, or “promoted.” Musk would move out by end of May. Next “promotion” will be Hegseth’s. Scott Bessent will bring USA’s economy down. Like China had said, who needs a small country as the US as a buyer, just 340million people, and most of them poor.

Posted by: ostrr | May 2 2025 11:08 utc | 32

@James 1 | May 2 2025 11:05 utc | 31
The war in Syria since 2011 would not have happened without the US.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 2 2025 11:08 utc | 33

US and Iran are keeping the core of the JCPOA as the initial framework in discussions on a new deal.
The new deal “may not look radically different” than the JCPOA, and an Iranian official described it as a “JCPOA 2.”
Some additions include an extension of the duration to 25 years, “tightened verification,” expanding sunset clauses.
All of the sources told Reuters that the US and Iran discussed proposals for Iran to keep their right to enrich uranium, but with a cap at 3.67%. — Reuters

Posted by: grid5 | May 2 2025 11:12 utc | 34

Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 2nd May 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-f3b

Posted by: The Busker | May 2 2025 11:13 utc | 35

Trump proved that the US has nothing to sell, not even the super-duper war planes, missiles, missile launchers etc. Russia had shown that they can be blown out, especially the F-something planes. USA is on the downward plunge, and Trump would help that happen faster!

Posted by: ostrr | May 2 2025 11:14 utc | 36

Respectfully….
> “Trade Wars cause shooting wars.”
Trade wars don’t “cause” shooting wars. The causality is the reverse: Nations prepare for shooting war by dramatically reducing trade with anticipated opponents.
> “America is truly an Empire of Lies. And Trump is beginning to embrace it.”
I understand your sentiment. But…“beginning”?
> It is a given, this is maximum stupidity on Trump. More empty shelves.
I understand your reaction. But, are the think tankers that make the policies stupid? Or is their plan so evil we *prefer* to think of it as “stupid”?
Looks like:
– Trade: Destroy, destabilize, steal, hijack, woo etc China’s supply chain (Iran, Panama/foreign ports, foreign trading partners, Russia, Argentina).
– Kinetic: Ukrainize the Philippines and Taiwan. Pakistan-India?
– Financial: Curtail the flow of USD into China’s treasury, by reducing imports of all foreign goods. Reduce tariffs on nations that agree to tariff China.
Trump’s overtures to Russia and Iran look fake, as though he’s creating the appearance of trying so the US can blame them later. (Like Hollande, Merkel, etc.). Why not the same with China regarding trade?
As for political support, why would “empty shelves” matter? Nothing matters to Trump supporters. Just liked nothing mattered to supporters of Biden, Obama, Clinton, Dubya, etc. The Democrats might “win” the midterms. But notice how quiet they are about war and trade. They’re quietly hoping to see “results”. They’re on the same team. If food shelves go bare and riots erupt, the uniparty will post ED-209 outside their sprawling compounds and watch the cities burn. The serfs are “not their people” anyway.
Bottom line: The elites are evil, not stupid. Expect worse things to come.

Posted by: I forgot | May 2 2025 11:26 utc | 37

He’s an old man, disconnected from reality and fumbling around angrily in an attempt to recapture the greatness he misremembers. And he’s going to get more angry. This is not even 2016 anymore. His assumption that everyone will listen to him and do what he says because he is president of the U.S. isn’t valid.
The wider world isn’t even making a show of placating him and his country anymore. His own citizens are going to turn on him sooner rather than later, and half of them already hate the man.
The American century is over. The old white men who enjoyed most of the benefits of it for their whole lives simply cannot cope with the new reality. So it will get much worse before there’s any hope of it getting better.

Posted by: Lex | May 2 2025 11:33 utc | 38

If anyone here is paid to be here, recognize that what your employers do to others they will eventually do to you. In our system, the worst psychos rise to the top. They eat the poor, they eat each other, and they’ll eat you too.

Posted by: I forgot | May 2 2025 11:34 utc | 39

“Bottom line: The elites are evil, not stupid. Expect worse things to come.”
Exactly!

Posted by: David F | May 2 2025 11:37 utc | 40

The Donald is going to end the usery of the fake Dollar and return the US and the world to sound money
Posted by: Hot Carl | May 2 2025 10:42 utc | 25

Rather unlikely.
Sound money would be fair to everyone but no one above the rank of knuckle dragging grunt wants to play the game fair. They all want an advantage … fairness requires that all players honestly agree to never cheat.

Posted by: Tel | May 2 2025 11:53 utc | 41

The “Reports on China” YT channel by the Chinese-speaking Andy Boreham
https://youtu.be/Z2eYVI3M6lA?si=nTmyUIGOAMKAQ5Zk
has a good take on this ludicrous Trump flail.
At the same time Bessent is expecting a call from China any minute on tariffs then Trump says that
any country buying oil/gas from Iran will have zero US trade?
90% of Iran hydrocarbons go to China.
This whimsical incoherence from the USA just discredits the nation further and further –
and all its western vassals with it.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | May 2 2025 12:18 utc | 42

Stalin was right, social democracy is just the moderate wing of fascism.
Posted by: Badjoke | May 2 2025 10:14 utc | 17

Well if Stalin ever said such a thing he must have forgotten that even the Russian bolshevik party originally called itself social democratic.
E.g., from Wikipedia:

«The Russian Social Democratic Labour Party (RSDLP),[b] also known as the Russian Social Democratic Workers’ Party (RSDWP) or the Russian Social Democratic Party (RSDP), was a socialist political party founded in 1898 in Minsk, Russian Empire. The party emerged from the merger of various Marxist groups operating under Tsarist repression, and was dedicated to the overthrow of the autocracy and the establishment of a socialist state based on the revolutionary leadership of the Russian proletariat.»

Of course, modern social democrats have deviated very far from the original ideas of freedom, equality and brotherhood that emerged through the French revolution. However that doesn’t automatically make them crypto-fascist.

Posted by: Avtonom | May 2 2025 12:23 utc | 43

Also, “empty shelves” is a feature, not a bug.
The point of higher taxes is to shift purchasing power from private taxpayers to the government. The government pays a lot of people to do its bidding. The government wants its scrip to retain purchasing power, in order to retain their servants’ loyalty.
Government is crowding out private sector butter to support government guns. Less on the shelves, more drones in the armories.

Posted by: I forgot | May 2 2025 12:32 utc | 44

USA would have beaten Vietnam if Turnip had been able to serve – he would have been the greatest solder ever, undefeatable.
Too bad he had bad feet, or hemorrhoids, or a rape trial.
This latest clown show is really pushing against Brian Berletic’s “Continuity of Agenda” idea.

Posted by: Polli | May 2 2025 12:35 utc | 45

“As for political support, why would “empty shelves” matter? Nothing matters to Trump supporters. Just liked nothing mattered to supporters of Biden, Obama, Clinton, Dubya, etc. The Democrats might “win” the midterms. But notice how quiet they are about war and trade. They’re quietly hoping to see “results”. They’re on the same team. If food shelves go bare and riots erupt, the uniparty will post ED-209 outside their sprawling compounds and watch the cities burn. The serfs are “not their people” anyway.
Bottom line: The elites are evil, not stupid. Expect worse things to come.”
Posted by: I forgot | May 2 2025 11:26 utc | 37
You’re probably correct.
However these same serfs who the elite are happy to starve, shoot and see their dwellings burn down,
are the same serfs who are supposed to operate all those re-shored US factories making everything that the USA needs.
How is that going to work?

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | May 2 2025 12:36 utc | 46

Trump has to start manufacturing jobs that make all the goods we have been buying from China before he can do this bold move on Iran and China. To evil countries that need to be brought down eventually but has to be done smart.

Posted by: fortuna | May 2 2025 12:41 utc | 47

@ Andrew Sarchus | May 2 2025 12:18 utc | 42
> This whimsical incoherence from the USA just discredits the nation further and further –
and all its western vassals with it.
Nitpick here: I wouldn’t call it “whimsical”. This is “all about China” — the western oligarchy’s war to prevent China’s rise from sweatshop selling at “cost plus” to branded products selling at rip-off premiums like Western brands. Western oligarchs planned this aggression for decades. …. No, “centuries”.

Posted by: I forgot | May 2 2025 12:43 utc | 48

@Lex | May 2 2025 11:33 utc | 38

The American century is over.

The 911 event was instigated by the “Project for the New American Century” (PNAC). 24 years is a bit short of their goal.

Posted by: Norwegian | May 2 2025 12:45 utc | 49

Trump shows his empty hand and still thinks he can bluff a country with 4 of a kind. Haven’t been able to follow the threads as it’s high season in the garden, are there still clowns simping for Trump here?

Posted by: Scottindallas | May 2 2025 13:09 utc | 50

Maybe trump could bring back the old model t ford, eny coulour you want as long as its black.
Or how about horse back travel an buggys for the women folk !
America goes full ammish.
Ah those were the days, lots of guns.
Sarcasim.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 2 2025 13:11 utc | 51

for what it’s worth, I’m having a hard time finding Ammonium Sulfate, or quick release nitrogen. I haven’t done the deep dive but are Ammonia supplies short due to bomb making demand?

Posted by: Scottindallas | May 2 2025 13:13 utc | 52

Posted by: fortuna | May 2 2025 12:41 utc | 47
Talking about evil countries… which country was nearly constantly at war the last 200 years?

Posted by: NoName | May 2 2025 13:22 utc | 53

@Menz | May 2 2025 8:59 utc | 2,
Be careful about reporting from SCMP, especially those related to China. SCMP is essentially an anti-China outlet and its approach that follows western or amerikkkan propaganda is more subtle. Even though it cites some Chinese scholars or officials, one needs to check who those scholars are and the contexts of the officials’ remarks. There are a lot of “scholars” in Chinese academia, especially in social science are brain-washed/damaged by western ideologies without the capabilities to think.

Posted by: LuRenJia | May 2 2025 13:30 utc | 54

Bottom line: The elites are evil, not stupid. Expect worse things to come.”
Exactly!
Posted by: David F | May 2 2025 11:37 utc | 40

Uh, sorry to question your assertion but these same geniuses are the ones who painted themselves into this corner, no? That squandered the power and wealth of the richest and most powerful Empire the earth has ever seen? That blundered it’s way into another unwinnable conflict that now threatens the very financial system they depend on, being parasites?
No, I think the Western ‘elite’ have demonstrated they are quite fucking stupid actually. A sort of low cunning sure, but forethought, strategy, consequence? They don’t do analysis when the conclusions contradict their ideology. What they have is hubris, in spades, but it won’t save them.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | May 2 2025 13:33 utc | 55

Part of the reason for this is it used to take initiative and intelligence to get rich. Now much is inherited or made through imbecilic schemes, thanks to ready free money. Real estate for example. The more cronyism and corruption rots the edifice from within, the more stupid these people are. And they will get more desperate.
I agree, prepare for the worst because the people who like to pretend they’re in control have zero fucking idea what they’re doing.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | May 2 2025 13:36 utc | 56

Like it was in the times of covid, China could block any goods transport to the US any given day, and how many days the US will stay afloat then?

Posted by: ostrr | May 2 2025 13:38 utc | 57

@ Andrew Sarchus | May 2 2025 12:36 utc | 46
When there’s a hole in the plan, contemplate what else they might be planning to plug that hole. Otherwise, we run the risk of underestimating the planners.
AI-assisted everything reduces the need for workers, even in STEM. Between that and mind-reading machines, the day will come when oligarchs think something into existence or rain brilliant pebbles onto remote hives of scum and villainy.
The Biden-era immigration policy helped shore up the demographics too, in case that’s needed. Maybe they’’ll “serve in the military”. If not, then they can “serve as scapegoats”. Or, as Carlin phrased it: “to scare the shit out of the middle class”.
Timing won’t be perfect. Things will get ugly. When people riot, TPTB use it to dial back the pace. When there are no riots, they dial the pace back up. … Unless faced with violent overthrow, the oligarchs use signs of discontent as a measurement tool. Many generals during a time of war view the misfortunes of the soldiers appear as lines on a map.

Posted by: I forgot | May 2 2025 13:41 utc | 58

Keep it up you’v got the rest of the entire world surrounded. 😁
Posted by: Mark2 | May 2 2025 10:28 utc | 23
Don’t worry, Mark. We’ll always be by your side…😧

Posted by: Mary | May 2 2025 13:46 utc | 59

Some truths…
[1] The United States can put whatever tariffs or sanctions it wants on Chinese products. It does not matter. China, and ONLY China, controls what will be exported to the USA.
[2] China has strategically specified and delineated what items are to be limited, restricted or banned from the United States import arena; this mean that that China controls what and how America can react (in Geo-political matters) going forward.
[3] All of this “second guessing” by “bar-flies” is curious and amusing, but the fact is that the United States calculated a strategy based on erroneous intel, and it will pay the price for this folly.

Posted by: Rufus Arrrr | May 2 2025 14:00 utc | 60

for what it’s worth, I’m having a hard time finding Ammonium Sulfate, or quick release nitrogen. I haven’t done the deep dive but are Ammonia supplies short due to bomb making demand?
Posted by: Scottindallas | May 2 2025 13:13 utc | 52
China has been holding back on fertilizer exports in general, I think to meet their own needs.

Posted by: Mary | May 2 2025 14:08 utc | 61

The German deep state, has now classified Germany’s second most popular political party the AfD, as an extremist group – which will allow the German security services to monitor its people 24/7.
AfD has almost 25% of the seats in Bundestag.
Democracy in Europe is dying fast.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 2 2025 14:15 utc | 62

Mary @ 59
Liked 👍 ❤
I could do trumps job better than trump.

Posted by: Mark2 | May 2 2025 14:15 utc | 63

are there still clowns simping for Trump here?
Posted by: Scottindallas | May 2 2025 13:09 utc | 50
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Many of them have kept quiet as the predictable disaster has unfolded.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 2 2025 14:18 utc | 64

This is the beginning of Impotent America.
Some social critics have wondered aloud if the emerging meme or symbol of the US is now a castrated male, pretending to be female. Trump’s actions seem almost synchronized with that in rushing towards national geopolitical impotence. We eventually reach a point at which no sanctions can be threatened because there’s none left to do. All that would be left is a bit of noise from delusional fools like Graham, sort of barking at the world. Once in delusion mode, I suppose they can just go on pretending and barking but any neo con left with the least crumb of reality left in his skull must realize that it’s “game over”, there’s no alternatives left. Political erectile dysfunction will be here.
Once that is achieved, things get interesting real fast. Does China invade Taiwan? Or Russia threaten the EU? If the US achieves a degree of autarky, then that’s even less influence on the world. This is not the world McKinley lived in.

Posted by: Eighthman | May 2 2025 14:20 utc | 65

I think reformulation of Diesel has lead to this. Ammonium Sulfate is a by product of Puerto refining and the Diesel formulation has changed, the amount of “distillates” has been low relative to gasoline and diesel production. The DEF diesel formula is relatively new and may be a factor. Jet fuel too is in the “distillate” category too.

Posted by: Scottindallas | May 2 2025 14:20 utc | 66

In the US we should have ample access to Petro distillates as we are massive refiners. The bar is aware of the US missile gap, perhaps ammonia supplies are tied to that; and I wouldn’t expect a lot of transparency in reporting on such sensitive issues

Posted by: Scottindallas | May 2 2025 14:22 utc | 67

Mary @ 59
Liked 👍 ❤
I could do trumps job better than trump.
Posted by: Mark2 | May 2 2025 14:15 utc | 63
Don’t let it go to your head, Mark. It’s such a low bar my squash patch could do a better job. 🙂

Posted by: Mary | May 2 2025 14:23 utc | 68

Trump has to start manufacturing jobs that make all the goods we have been buying from China before he can do this bold move on Iran and China. To evil countries that need to be brought down eventually but has to be done smart.
Posted by: fortuna | May 2 2025 12:41 utc | 47
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I heard yesterday that in a poll 80% of Americans want more factories and 20% of Americans want to work in a factory. 🤔
People think one just designates a building a factory and abracadabra, “manufacturing”.
It took China 40 years to build their industrial base.
So, if everything goes well, maybe in 40 years Americans will be able to mass produce something technological.
That presumes that the ROW will stand still and stop competing for resources.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 2 2025 14:26 utc | 69

This embargo on Iranian oil is one more step up the escalation ladder towards an overt American/Israeli war against Iran (and China), as opposed to the current covert American/Israeli war.
Do the Americans and Israelis have the courage to attack Iran directly?
And will the USA fatefully recross the Rubicon and use tactical nuclear weapons against Iran, as Scott Ritter has suggested?

Posted by: ak74 | May 2 2025 14:35 utc | 70

For the big picture overview of “Trump’s” tariffs and other “foreign policy,” I urge bar flies to watch in full the live stream with Danny Haiphong and Brian Berletic that was posted on an earlier thread by Stranger.
Yes, watch the whole thing
You will no longer be in the dark regarding tariffs, nukes, the South China Sea , or any of the other hot spots being further boiled by Trump et al. So it will save everyone a lot of time.
Here is the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGEu6bj194g

Posted by: Jane | May 2 2025 14:40 utc | 71

Industrial investment in the U.S.: Can / will the U.S. produce what it’s currently importing?
I just posted into Open Thread a piece that looks at U.S. industrial investment trends, what’s on the U.S. retail shelves (Walmart and Amazon) and current ship-movements into the U.S. port of Los Angeles, CA (“busiest port in the Americas”).
If you’re interested in seeing up-to-the-minute info from authoritative sources, this piece will take 3 mins to read, and another 10 mins to look thru the backup I provide.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 2 2025 14:40 utc | 72

Dont use chemicals on your veg patch.
Operate a no dig system, no bare soil, leave all vegtable matter on the surface as aprotection from leaching, the worms will turn it into your fertilizer natrauly.
Plant a catch crop of vetch before your main crop cut it and leave on surfice.
Plant lots of legumes in rotation.
And be kind to Chinese, Russians an Irainians.
Love your nabour an vote Mark2

Posted by: Mark2 | May 2 2025 14:42 utc | 73

The West is a bloody comedy and the UK and Germany are its best examples.
“The German deep state [that is ‘kosher’ Pharisee-type Zionist] has now classified Germany’s second most popular political party the AfD [that is ‘kosher’ Sadducee-type Zionist] as an extremist group”
A German isn’t allowed to be patriotic, even in homeopathic quantities; but is allowed to be enthusiast of Ukrainian 14 Waffen SS nostalgics and/or enthusiast of a brutal Ethno-identitarian regime founded (1917-) by violent Ukrainian and Polish immigrants on other people’s lands.
The futuristic dystopia that the UK has become and the comedy of the German Eunuchs are good examples of the delirious world we have to live in after (1997/2000-) the death of democracy and freedom of expression in Europe.

Posted by: Simon | May 2 2025 14:44 utc | 74

From my understanding, China’s stand regarding amerikkkkan tariffs doesn’t change. However, the western media, especially amerikkkan ones, try very hard to whitewash for amerikkka and twist on the facts by omissions to give impressions that China is losing and wants to talk.
What China said from day one is:

中方立场始终如一,打,奉陪到底;谈,大门敞开。 关税战、贸易战是由美方单方发起的,美方想谈就应拿出谈的诚意,要在纠正错误做法、取消单边加征关税等问题上做好准备,拿出行动。我们注意到,美方近期不断就调整关税措施放风。中方想要强调的是,任何可能的对话、会谈中,如果美方不纠正错误的单边关税措施,则说明美方完全没有诚意,且会进一步损害双方互信。说一套、做一套,甚至试图以谈为幌子,搞胁迫讹诈,在中方这里是行不通的。

(source: The remarks from the spokesperson of China’s Ministry of Commerce on 2025-05-02.)
You can translate that with the tool you prefer. The key is that the prerequisite for “talk” with amerikkka is that US must correct its wrongdoing first to show its sincerity. Saying one thing but doing another will not work.
And reuters kept saying that China is open to talk with the descriptions that look like China is eager to talk while omitting the prerequisite entirely.
Another media outlet reported the similar but put the prerequisite at the end of its article. The media Fortune even used the title like “China takes a beating but US is resilient…” for a tariff reporting.
The western media is simply a joke. For anything they report, it is better to cross-check with the corresponding local media to get a correct picture. For China, one can cross-check Guancha or CCTV English.
The amerikkkan administration keeps saying it’s talking with countries and about to get some deals from the beginning. Now a month has passed and NOTHING materializes at all. If anyone believes what amerikkkan said, it’s that person’s own fault. It is not clear whether amerikkka is trustworthy even by its actions since it can flip flop at any moment.
I am not sure it is wise for China to talk to amerikkka since it is completely agreement incapable. The 3-letter agency even publicly released a video to recruit Chinese officials for spying on X. With hostility like this, would it be better to leave amerikkka crumble on its own?

Posted by: LuRenJia | May 2 2025 14:48 utc | 75

A few things.
No matter what, China will not back down.
China and Iran have been building a pipeline because hostile interdiction by sea has always been a concern. I don’t know its current status.
China and BRICS has made it much harder for any external party to monitor financial transactions between states.
China and BRICS are organizing independent and opaque settlement processes. The West can announce sanctions and tariffs until they are blue in the face, they won’t be able to track or measure the effectiveness of their punitive actions.
China has gotten a little softer but the West by and large has no conception of short term sacrifice for long term gain. Every demand is immediate and patience is at an all time low.
In a battle of wills, China will crush the US.
Growing up I was taught to hate Communism. That was wrong. Central planning, like big government, can work well. It comes down to the culture pursuing those ideas. An arrogant uncompetitive culture will always lose to a hungrier more energetic one. There is no magic system that makes losers into winners. “The work” must always be done.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 2 2025 14:53 utc | 76

Desperation setting in on the Rottenchilds on both sides of the Atlantic. Their terrorist tactics aren’t working, the Indians obviously did balistics and forensics and came up with ciami6mossad, so its back to white collar terrorism.
BRICS crowd just have to stay united and cut their inevitable losses, no pain no gain.
Trump & co are clearly taking the same sauce as Zelenskyy’s crew. The USA defeated the Mongols back in the day too, should have another holiday for that surely.

Posted by: Ogre | May 2 2025 14:59 utc | 77

So who blew up Iran’s major port then? Iran is saying it was an ‘accident’, when we all know who was likely behind it. Probably the same people who caused Lebanon to have an ‘accident’ a few years in their port in Beirut…
Posted by: Rubiconned | May 2 2025 10:09 utc | 16

Iran has said that the explosion was caused by negligence and disregard for protocols on storage of dangerous materials. Typically, wordwide rules on explosives forbid the storage of explosives in clumps of more than X tons in one place.
You can see in the video that there was a container fire at the port which heated adjacent containers which caused the colossal explosion.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 2 2025 14:59 utc | 78

So, the combo of Humpty-Dumpty/Mad Hatter/Red Queen has bellowed yet again, and the world shrugs its shoulders and goes about its business. I see the PLA Navy organizing tanker convoys–Iranian oil’s a matter of China’s national security. The bellowing is also a signal that the negotiations with Iran aren’t going the way Trump expected. Thus, two of Trump’s main campaign promises are now lies–Peace President and MAGA. When the Outlaw US Empire’s 1Q GDP is adjusted to reality, the drop is close to 4% and the rest of the year will be worse.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 2 2025 15:09 utc | 79

Trump FY2026 budget proposal, line item summary from White House:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/05/Fiscal-Year-2026-Discretionary-Budget-Request.pdf
The skinny; its more kicking the can down the road lavish debt fueled spending. My conclusion is therrfore “insolvency crisis” expected around early 2027. Let see next week if bomd market agrees.

Posted by: Exile | May 2 2025 15:15 utc | 80

it’s fascinating having some doofus in power in the usa causing mayhem directly towards his own country.. nuf said.. thanks b..

Posted by: james | May 2 2025 15:19 utc | 81

Posted by: Mark2 | May 2 2025 14:42 utc | 73
I’m voting for you.

Posted by: Avtonom | May 2 2025 15:22 utc | 82

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 2 2025 14:53 utc | 76
Back when the US banned ivermectin I “discovered” a source via a European country within 2-3 weeks. Without trying. It turned up in a reader post somewhere.
It originated in China — the package writing was Chinese, with measurements in kg instead of pounds.
Even after customs started interdicting Chinese iver at the border, it passed through another country, was imported through customs in an mismarked package appearing to come from that allied country.
The price at my end was the same, just small businesses making the profits. Fine by me!
So I expect the inability to track BRICS will facilitate the black market that will inevitably spring up for high demand consumer products.
Big Boxes will be cut down to size. Small business people with overseas contacts will win. Again: Fine by me!

Posted by: Mary | May 2 2025 15:23 utc | 83

how does the usa get off dictating to the rest of the world who they will or won’t trade with?? that is what dictators do.. i guess it wasn’t enuf said, lol..

Posted by: james | May 2 2025 15:24 utc | 84

Posted by: Mary | May 2 2025 15:23 utc | 83
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Humanity is persistent. Block one route, they will find another. Like water.
Tariffs and sanctions in 2025 is about the internal audience in DC and Wall Street, not actually manipulating the other country. Sanctions, IIRC, have never achieved capitulation from a significant power.
Increasing sanctions and tariffs are driving the ROW together, regardless of their differences.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 2 2025 15:31 utc | 85

what’s on the U.S. retail shelves
Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | May 2 2025 14:40 utc | 72

The shelves themselves are most probably made in China.

Posted by: too scents | May 2 2025 15:34 utc | 86

So we have rabid dogs running Izzyhell where >90% of the squatters favor extermination of all Palestinians and where the rabid dogs have one upped the helicopters Sampson Option burning autos to burning down their own f’ing houses; and a rabid bull in the big white china shop; and a head chopper in a suit sucking up his daily blood. George Carlin is right. Time to give another species a chance. Thanks to all barflies who post measured comments. I’ll be on the side of Sir Arch Bungle and DoneGroaning. Some one needs to rant and say no no no stop the lunacy. Speaking of George Carlin, does anyone remember way back when a “professional” wrestler called Killer Kowalski who tended bar in the Boston area? He was always interviewed before a match. the question: whaddaya gonna do Killah? The answer: Ah’m a gonna kill’em. That’s Trumpstein. On overweight idiot in a clown suit.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | May 2 2025 15:40 utc | 87

@ Exile | May 2 2025 15:15 utc | 80
> Let see next week if bond market agrees.
I fear the bond market will “agree” when the oligarchs decide to market cuts to popular programs.

Posted by: I forgot | May 2 2025 15:43 utc | 88

Posted by: Scottindallas | May 2 2025 13:13 utc | 52
Tend not to use artificial fertilizers on my garden – blood/fish/bone (powder), seaweed (powder), urine (your own, diluted), comfrey and/or nettle brewed into to a tea (diluted). They have a better nutrient profile than industrial ferts.
Water on your plants they will thank you bigly.
Oh, and it’s cheaper.

Posted by: ChatNPC | May 2 2025 15:43 utc | 89

the black market that will inevitably spring up for high demand consumer products.
Posted by: Mary | May 2 2025 15:23 utc | 83

And where will the income come from to support this “high demand”?

Posted by: too scents | May 2 2025 15:45 utc | 90

I picture Trump holding his breath, and stomping his feat while making this procolmation. When ROW says they don’t care,he will probably start spinning and wailing like Rumpelstiltskin.

Posted by: Matt | May 2 2025 15:50 utc | 91

I fear the bond market will “agree” when the oligarchs decide to market cuts to popular programs.
Posted by: I forgot | May 2 2025 15:43 utc | 88

Lets see how much of their own dog food oligarchs can eat before they puke.

Posted by: too scents | May 2 2025 15:50 utc | 92

Trump has clearly never heard of that modern maxim:
Never go full retard.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | May 2 2025 15:53 utc | 93

@ ak74 | May 2 2025 14:35 utc | 70
Interestingly, Pearl Harbor, and US involvment in WWII, started by the USA squeezing Japan out of essential ressources. What happens, once the US understands, it has squeezed itself out of ressources, supply chains, essential products, access to markets?
OK, they are slow and will take forever understanding what happened. And when it dawns on them, they’ll blame it on everyone else. But facts are stubborn. What remains when Beoing goes bankrupt?

Posted by: Shahmaran | May 2 2025 15:54 utc | 94

I picture Trump holding his breath, and stomping his feat while making this procolmation. When ROW says they don’t care,he will probably start spinning and wailing like Rumpelstiltskin.

Posted by: Matt | May 2 2025 15:55 utc | 95

Trump Bends the Knee After China’s Severe Warning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6UzjdQDYyQ
Brian Berletic and Carl Zha on ‘the extent of the damage’…

Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 2 2025 15:57 utc | 96

@ too scents | May 2 2025 15:50 utc | 92
> Lets see how much of their own dog food oligarchs can eat before they puke.
You selling tickets to that? …. How much? 🙂
…I hope you’re correct.

Posted by: I forgot | May 2 2025 15:59 utc | 97

This is just another click on the sanction ratchet.
Posted by b on May 2, 2025 at 8:46 UTC | Permalink
Continuity of agenda as Brian Berletic has pointed out the whole time.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | May 2 2025 16:05 utc | 98

This is just another click on the sanction ratchet.
Posted by b on May 2, 2025 at 8:46 UTC | Permalink
Continuity of agenda as Brian Berletic has pointed out the whole time.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | May 2 2025 16:07 utc | 99

@Shahmaran | May 2 2025 15:54 utc | 94

OK, they are slow and will take forever understanding what happened. And when it dawns on them, they’ll blame it on everyone else. But facts are stubborn. What remains when Beoing goes bankrupt?

Rhetorically speaking, would that be “Global-Minus-1”? How possible is it ending that way? Most, maybe even including the outlaw’s vassals, will not mind or care the deduction should the transition work out smoothly.

Posted by: LuRenJia | May 2 2025 16:08 utc | 100