Tariffs Defeated, DOGE Failure, Big Bill Endangered - What's Trump Gonna Do?
Last night one of President Donald Trump central policies was defeated in court:
Trump’s ‘Liberation Day’ tariffs halted by Court of International Trade (archived) - Washington Post
Most of President Trump’s tariffs were halted late Wednesday by a US trade court in a sharp rebuke of the president’s signature trade war policy.
A specialized federal court in New York on Wednesday ruled that most of President Donald Trump’s tariffs — including those on Chinese goods — are illegal, ...
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The trade court’s ruling that Trump exceeded his authority in imposing tariffs on all imported goods brought an immediate, albeit perhaps temporary, halt to his signature trade war policy.“The challenged Tariff Orders will be vacated and their operation permanently enjoined,” a three-judge panel ruled.
This is the end to Trump's tariffs.
His administration will do the utmost to fight the court ruling. But the legal reasoning against it is strong and higher courts are likely to follow it. As The Economist explains (archived):
[Trump's] orders imposing the fentanyl tariffs and reciprocal levies had cited a 1977 law called the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA). It has its roots in the Trading with the Enemy Act, passed after America joined the first world war in 1917, which gives the president leeway to interfere in international economic transactions during national emergencies.
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In recent years courts have argued that the executive branch cannot rely on ambiguous delegations of power to take actions of great consequence, a principle known as the “major-questions doctrine”. IEEPA does not mention tariffs, but does give the president the power to “regulate” imports. Relying on it to “authorise anything as unbounded” as global tariffs, the court said, was inconsistent with both the major-questions doctrine and the established idea that Congress cannot delegate its powers to the president wholesale.
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It seems likely that the disputes will find their way to the Supreme Court. At that point they would be presided over mostly by justices who have been strong proponents of the major-questions doctrine.
Yves Smith at Naked Capitalism cites a number of sources and is largely confirming that take.
Trump will have to rescind the tariffs he has imposed so far. He will be able to immediately reintroduce new tariffs under different legal provisions. But those tariffs will have to have time limits and are legally restricted in size.
The whole Trump 'victory day' strategy of using absurdly high tariffs to negotiate trade deals in favor of the U.S. is thus in shambles.
No foreign 'partner' will be willing to concede on major issues as Trump has lost the means to pressure them. Negotiations on further trade deals will slow down or come to a halt.
With vanishing tariffs the hoped for billions of additional government income through tariffs will also be lost. Trump's domestic economic strategy around the 'one big beautiful bill' has thereby lost its economic basis. Without the additional income through tariffs the Senate will be unwilling to risk the high deficits needed to pass it.
But Trump will not be willing to concede defeat in the core project of his administration.
More tariffs, on less stable legal ground, are likely to be imposed by him.
For the economy all this will bring more uncertainty:
[A]nalysts at Goldman Sachs, a bank, warn that trade uncertainty has increased, rather than decreased, as a consequence of the court’s decision. Unless Mr Trump has a light-bulb moment of his own, America’s importers will be doing business in the dark.
Another major project of the Trump administration was the to seek spending cuts by eliminating government agencies. But DOGE has failed to deliver:
NewsWire @NewsWire_US - 21:04 UTC · May 28, 2025White House to seek just $9B in spending cuts from Congress out of $175B in claimed savings found by Musk’s DOGE — Bloomberg
Elon Musk has left the administration and is already starting to criticize it.
Trump's peace-in-24-hours project in Ukraine has also failed.
All these are major catastrophes for Trump.
My fear is that Trump will now seek a new 'project' to divert the attention from the rubble his previous ones have left behind him.
What is there, but war, that could give him an easy win?
Posted by b on May 29, 2025 at 15:01 UTC | Permalink
next page »"This is the end to Trump's tariffs..."
not so b.
Sundance over at The Conservative Tree house has discovered "several legal structural flaws" in the 3 judge ruling.
Posted by: AleaJactaEst | May 29 2025 15:16 utc | 2
"What is Trump going to do ????"
Ignore it ???
There are a number of members in Congress who don't like the "Big beautifull Bill" because it will also increase the budget deficit by another 2 trillion. (or was it 1 trillion ???).
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5316940-trump-bill-fiscal-concerns-republicans
Posted by: WMG | May 29 2025 15:25 utc | 4
The LA Times has posted up an article spotlighting Musk. It is withering.
As Musk exits, he sees his projects unraveling, inside and outside governmentWASHINGTON — A Starship spun out of control in suborbital flight on Tuesday, failing to meet critical testing goals set by SpaceX in its plans for a mission to Mars. A poll released last week showed the national brand reputation for Tesla, once revered, had cratered. And later that same day, House Republicans passed a bill that would balloon the federal deficit.
It has been a challenging period for Elon Musk, the world’s richest man, who not long ago thought he had conquered the private sector and could, in short order, do the same with the federal government. That all ended Wednesday evening with his announcement he is leaving the Trump administration.
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The reputational damage to Tesla, setbacks at SpaceX and limits to his influence on Trump appear to be cautioning Musk to step back from his political activity.
“I think in terms of political spending, I’m going to do a lot less in the future,” Musk told Bloomberg News on May 20, during the Qatar Economic Forum. “I think I’ve done enough.”
full slapdown ==> https://www.latimes.com/politics/newsletter/2025-05-28/musk-criticism-trump-big-beautiful-bill
Everybody is changing partners on the dance floor while the party is far from over.
Posted by: too scents | May 29 2025 15:27 utc | 5
Easy wins?
Epstein prosecutions, 9/11 files, covid origins and vaccine shenanigan files and prosecutions, US involvement in Nord Stream bombing, Seth Rich's laptops, FBI involvement in J6, and details and prosecutions of the 2020 steal.
Basically, if Trump can expose nefarious doings by the deep state in a conclusive and damning way it will be a solid win for him. It will have to be ironclad though.
Nord Stream for example, he would need testimony from navy divers that they placed explosives on the pipeline and/or documents and testimony for the orders comming from on high.
Seth Rich's laptops would be even better. If they contain the DNC emails and correspondence with Wikileaks and the FBI records show that the FBI knew about it while pushing Russiagate it would eviscerate huge chunks of the narrative.
Trump has every reason to pursue several of these items but hasn't. The FBI is still fighting FOIA for Seth's laptops in court. It's far from clear why.
Posted by: team10tim | May 29 2025 15:35 utc | 6
Lol at Trump cultists. Just say it boys. Take off your masks and stop being pussies. Call b "TDS" already.
https://www.threads.com/@adr1600/post/DKLdb54ubdU?xmt=AQF0CqnSjWsFvhTCTKDsMlPwLL1PYMfLfwqPRuQjCs3JzQ
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 29 2025 15:41 utc | 8
https://pluralistic.net/2025/05/28/cheaters-ever-prosper/#caveat-america
America is an open scam.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 29 2025 15:43 utc | 9
"..What is there, but war, that could give him an easy win?"
There aren't many 'easy wins' left in the war department.
As to 'whocanibenow@1" can you not see that Trump's policies are the very essence of neo-liberalism?
Imperialism, the system whose ideology is (neo-)liberalism is in its death throes, it has nothing left but, as b suggests, war to offer. And the only war left to it is nuclear war.
These are exceedingly dangerous times.
It is, sadly appropriate that so many of the sons and daughters of imperialism, indoctrinated since birth in anti-communist, market worshipping ideas cannot bring themselves to recognise that the only way out of this final crisis of capitalism is to wrest the means of production, distribution and exchange (the factories, banks, media, internet and transportation infrastructure) out of the hands of oligarchies and bring them under popular democratic control-socialism.
It is because of this inheritance of ideological brainwashing that the 'west' is doomed- as Trump (and all the rest of our political class) demonstrate- the only way forward they can offer is to go around and around in ever diminishing circles. If the rest of the world does not stop it the old empire emulating its apotheosis Israel, will blow everything up and put an end to its flailing impotence in a sea of blood.
Posted by: bevin | May 29 2025 15:49 utc | 10
What is there but war... Shakespearean construction. Have you read Shakespeare Bernard?
Posted by: Oblivious Throckmort | May 29 2025 15:49 utc | 11
I'm afraid those who believe in Daddy, sorry I mean Presidente Trump, are trying to keep the faith but it's considerably under siege by reality.
The reality that most of us could give two shits about who is in power in the US, because most have seen through the fiction that is American politics. Funny how US foreign policy never changes regardless of what party or person is in power. Trump will continue the Ukraine war because that's his job, and he will continue to play-act that he has control. It's a calculated PR fake conflict between reds and blues so they always get the policies they want. America has not had a real president since Kennedy.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | May 29 2025 15:53 utc | 12
If Trump agenda collapses, I wonder how that impacts Ukraine (escalation?)
Seems like Trump wanted to gloss over Ukraine problem and focus on trade. Will he double down as Russian's go full tilt, or just walk away?
China and Russia are positioned to take advantage of US missteps. And who is this clown Motyl? Why don't these Russophobes ever do serious debates?:
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/5322260-why-time-is-not-on-russias-side-in-ukraine/
Posted by: ZT | May 29 2025 15:55 utc | 13
War for an easy win?
But that would require an easy target for war. So what will it be? Canada? Because it surely won't be Iran, Russia, China or North Korea.
Posted by: Clueless Joe | May 29 2025 15:56 utc | 14
Plus there's this:
the U.S. dollar hit a two-year *low* against the ruble
No wonder DJT is eager to swing a deal w/ VVP
Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 29 2025 15:57 utc | 15
When in doubt, go to war. Hell lets be honest here, the US is at war with dozens of Countries, the US just doesn't declare war anymore because the US cant admit the Truth on anything anymore. The US is bombing Yemen and through it's proxy's its also bombing Gaza, Syria & Russia and planning to bomb China and Iran in the near future
Posted by: Kadath | May 29 2025 16:07 utc | 16
The half-assed nature of his efforts to date, suggest they they were not intended as serious efforts - rather were simply performance, distractions from more serious agenda. I had not realized that, but that is now my impression. Apparently this stupid spending bill is in fact at the core of what he sees as his agenda - he wants a lot of money to do a lot more really pointless things. I think it is time for a competency check.
I cannot think of anything positive to say about it at this point.
Best for the world to get on with more serious matters.
He will be able to continue the genocide in the middle east. That seems to be a central point for him.
I would like to see his global assets seized and a trial brought against him.
I now suspect that the fuss about a perceived threat against him by former FBI director was a false flag effort.
I saw what seemed a serious discussion about how after the CIA/FBI assasinated President Kennedy, his brother was afraid to pursue further anti-corruption actions against those organizations (the government had lost the battle) and that at that point the US government became a criminal enterprise.
Posted by: jared | May 29 2025 16:10 utc | 17
AleaJactaEst 3,
A very helpful link...of course TDS sufferers will ignore the law when it suits there hatefulness. To the TDS deranged, it makes perfect sense that an unelected court would be able to overrule the President on national policy by ignoring laws passed by congress. Yes...yes, "the president is a dictator" they'd say but, in the reality based world, it's the courts doing the dictating issuing national edicts in a legal free-for-all.
And when they have finished cutting away all the legal fig-leafs of this country where shall they hide their naked artifice?
Posted by: S Brennan | May 29 2025 16:10 utc | 18
Lol no fan of Yves or her echo chamber highly policed comment section each iteration of which seems to consist solely of 19 RevKev replies and 4 wukchumi song lyric adaptation posts. But if the only critique Reverse TDS Trump cultists can offer are themselves ad hominem complaints alleging ad hominem then I'm unconvinced. But have a look at Taibbi's comments and his total unwillingness to touch the genocide and I think you'll find that NC is actually more sane.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 29 2025 16:10 utc | 19
"What is there, but war, that could give him an easy win?"
Oh, I don't think there will be anymore "easy wins" for imperialism. That chapter of the story is over.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 29 2025 16:11 utc | 20
the U.S. dollar hit a two-year *low* against the ruble
Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 29 2025 15:57 utc | 17
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And an all time low by orders of magnitude against gold.
Posted by: too scents | May 29 2025 16:13 utc | 21
Financial Times coined DJT's new favorite acronym: TACO for Trump Always Chickens Out, referencing tariff zig-zags. If you feel like watching steam come out of his ears, ask DJT what he thinks of TACO. (My ballcap is on order!)
Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 29 2025 16:16 utc | 23
steel_porcupine 17,
That was a predictable outcome and...
I would have held Rubles but, sanctions made it impossible for little people without offshore bank accounts...believe me, I looked into it.
Posted by: S Brennan | May 29 2025 16:16 utc | 24
To quote B's quote
"In recent years courts have argued that the executive branch cannot rely on ambiguous delegations of power to take actions of great consequence, a principle known as the “major-questions doctrine”."
Whats stopping the courts from relying on their own ambiguous power to take actions of great consequences? I'm surprised more people aren't outraged at partisan and unethical judges issuing ruling according to their feelings? Especially when local courts issues nation wide rulings?
It's hard to expect better these days but it still needs to be pointed out
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 29 2025 16:16 utc | 25
Trump is a egotistical, sociopath - who'll never admit to defeat - he'll tie this disaster-off claiming it would've worked if other had been on his side, but they chose to oppose his "brilliant" plans, he'll then move onto creating another disaster. The Zio-Monsters genocide will continue under him - and the war on Russia will also continue under his tenure.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 29 2025 16:19 utc | 26
"TDS" has officially become the new "antisemitism" or "racist." A thought ender ad hominem slur, generously and liberally applied and almost always in the absence of any intellectual content or articulated criticism.
"And when they have finished cutting away all the legal fig-leafs of this country where shall they hide their naked artifice?"
LOL says the guy who continually goes to bat for the person currently occupying the White House that's attempting to screw over his own voters in the lower and middle classes, all by extending the lawlessness of the deep state, robbing the poor to feed the rich and failing at every one of his fake campaign promises except "revenge" and to let the Zionists write domestic policy while continuing and amplifying the previous Zio-Cuck's practices of doxxing, silencing and jailing dissenters.
'Ignore the law...' LMFAO - when has "the law" ever been abided by our overclass? And aren't the courts, including those not-so-well-paid and nominated/staffed by our current Commander in Chief at least ostensibly "the law"?
Trumpers are like Bush neocons on steroids and lacking any historical memory. "Trumpism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect." Not so different from establishment upper class libs, but turned up to 11.
War? Some of y'all are on the right page, but in the wrong chapter. The Zionists know how to craft a false flag and draw the US into their wars of choice. Do you really think Bibi isn't going to do the same to Trump or that the deep state - which now consists of many Trump loyalists - won't try their hardest to push us into (a losing) one with Iran? All that matters is the money.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 29 2025 16:20 utc | 27
I'm surprised more people aren't outraged at partisan and unethical judges issuing ruling according to their feelings? Especially when local courts issues nation wide rulings?
It's hard to expect better these days but it still needs to be pointed out
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | May 29 2025 16:16 utc | 27
You either believe in the Madisonian elements of the system, or you don't. And let's not forget that Trump and his Federalist masters groomed, nominated and confirmed many of these unethical judges. Not to mention the DEI house negro on SCOTUS.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 29 2025 16:22 utc | 28
Neofeudalfuture 27, from AleaJactaEst 3's citation:
"in 1962, Congress delegated to the President the power to take action to adjust imports when the Secretary of Commerce finds that an “article is being imported into the United States in such quantities or under such circumstances as to threaten to impair the national security.” Trade Expansion Act of 1962, Pub. L. No. 87-794, § 232(b), 76 Stat. 872, 877 (codified as amended at 19 U.S.C. § 1862(c)(1)(A)). This delegation is conditioned upon an investigation and findings by the Secretary of Commerce, and agreement by the President. See id. Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974, as amended, requires that the U.S. Trade Representative (“USTR”) take action, which may include imposing tariffs, where “the rights of the United States under any trade agreement are being denied” or “an act, policy, or practice of a foreign country” is “unjustifiable and burdens or restricts United States commerce.”
Clearly the court overruled more than the US President, it overruled the law passed by congress in setting national policy...and "liberals" & "lefties" cheered while the band played on
Posted by: S Brennan | May 29 2025 16:23 utc | 29
I would have held Rubles but, sanctions made it impossible for little people without offshore bank accounts...believe me, I looked into it.
Posted by: S Brennan | May 29 2025 16:16 utc | 26
Have you tried Yuan yet?
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 29 2025 16:27 utc | 30
The Zio-Monsters genocide will continue under him - and the war on Russia will also continue under his tenure.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 29 2025 16:19 utc | 28
Without question. Only an idiot would believe otherwise at this point.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 29 2025 16:28 utc | 31
Anyone arguing in favor of Trump's tariff policies at this point is doing so on strictly (and dubious) procedural grounds. They are not "bringing manufacturing back" to the US and they are not helping the little people. If anything, they're enriching the market shorting/pump-and-dump scam artist big investor and day trading class.
Nobody has articulated anything remotely useful to the little people insofar as how this tariff war works for us. If all you've got is "little Jane will have 3 dolls instead of 30", ya haven't got much.
Show me the proof that such policies have ever worked, when implemented anywhere near how this administration is trying to implement them. They haven't. This isn't about making America "great" again, and anyone saying that it is, is a liar, grifter or partisan stooge.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 29 2025 16:29 utc | 32
Trump has been exposed as nothing but full of bluster. The Wall St. nickname TACO sums up what the astute have already recognized. Bullies run from fights when their targets stand up to them. Trump will not start any wars but he will continue to persecute the vulnerable. Migrants, minorities, women, the poor. Countries like Venezuela.
Posted by: Keme | May 29 2025 16:34 utc | 33
Ahenobarbus 32, I never looked into it but that's because I didn't the type of certainty I did with Russia prevailing against Team-Biden/Eurotrash's war against Russia [WAR]. Though I don't think there is any sanctions to prevent one from investing in Yuan...
Posted by: S Brennan | May 29 2025 16:34 utc | 34
Posted by: Keme | May 29 2025 16:34 utc | 35
Correct. And anyone who will stand behind officially classifying and persecuting Venezuela, Yemen or Cuba as "terror supporting regimes" is human trash, and usually they're open or closeted supporters of the Zionists' genocide - many of whom would likely rather the Goys eliminate the Muzzie Ay-rabs instead of the Jews, but same end result.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 29 2025 16:37 utc | 35
Should've been "...because I didn't see the type of certainty I did with Russia prevailing against Team-Biden/Eurotrash's war against Russia
Posted by: S Brennan | May 29 2025 16:37 utc | 36
Maybe he can take on satanyahu and the zionists...He'll get his fun and games having already made his money (and more through office). November 2026 is gonna be fun!
Posted by: Sal | May 29 2025 16:42 utc | 37
I have always written that Trump's tariffs were intended on crashing the global economies and I see that as working.....the world is not going back to the pre Trump world.
So, is Trump representing a new class of Western oligarchs that are willing to operate in a multi-polar/nodal world versus the God Of Mammon unipolar cult?
Or is he the Trojan Horse of such?
Trump is spinning in his grave and he is not dead yet. As the face of dying empire, he gets to eat the shit show he creates.
Posted by: psychohistorian | May 29 2025 16:55 utc | 38
Those suffering the vapors must take to the Fainting Couch, stat-!
What we're seeing now is nothing more than the same thwarting tactics which stalled & ultimately killed DJT's first-term efforts to delete Obamacare---and this particular event is occurring at more or less the very same juncture in DJT's second-term.
The thwarting tactics utilized against DJT's efforts to replace Obamacare were political/Congressional: remember McCain's theatrical thumbs-down vote-?
This time around the thwarting tactics utilized against DJT's efforts to set tariff policy are *judicial*---the U.S. *trade* court has delivered the beat-down.
But both tactics hail from the same impetus: to bottle-up the DJT admin to such an extent that paralysis sets in and he's unable to realize his agenda.
Note, too, that this is happening in an atmosphere of epic lawsuits brought before liberal courts & judges to stop DJT's initiatives at all costs, whether addressing free speech protections at Harvard or the deportation of illegal immigrants.
If DJT's agenda can be tied up in the judicial system, then Congress need not lift a finger.
Like the tariffs or not, notice how DJT is being stymied, not just regarding tariffs but regarding his other efforts: the Resistance is using a wonky judicial system to remove the powers of the Executive branch.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 29 2025 17:02 utc | 39
The tariffs were never going to succeed at re-shoring production for the simple fact that US workers demand too high of a standard of living. Chinese workers live with a third of the living space, minimal beef consumption, minimal electricity demand, minimal everything, relative to US workers. The cost of the reproduction of their labor is therefore also minimal.
The immediate impact of the tariffs - if they were ever allowed to actually go into practice without Trump either retreating or courts slapping them down - would be an economic depression that would destroy living standards and destroy significant amounts of accumulated capital. After that, maybe the tariffs would work, as markets grope around for a new equilibrium, but the US would have committed economic suicide to do it, giving up its place as the global sponge of finance capital, and engendering mass discontent from the taking away of the "treats" we've become accustomed to. The last time a Republican president did such a thing, it resulted in FDR winning 4 straight elections on a quasi-socialist platform.
I don't have any hopes for that to happen again (the amount of pressure on the government to do something would have to be monumental), but the tariffs are an obviously suicidal policy. If the tariffs don't go through, we get a few more years of stagnation before the crisis really hits. If they go through, it's going to be a catastrophe.
Posted by: fnord | May 29 2025 17:05 utc | 40
Smells like wishful thinking.
If Trump wants out he might take this as an opportunity.
He might not, he might want to spread the stink for as long as possible.
What if the POTUS thinks the court(s) are committing a crime?
Either way the shitshow will continue, guaranteed.
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | May 29 2025 17:06 utc | 41
The ruling is misunderstood.
Trump initiated these Tarriffs under the International Economic Emergency Powers Act, citing “Fetanyl and something else.
The suit was brought by 5 small businesses in 12 states.
The Court is saying they cannot use that “Act” to implement tarriffs against nations or our own nation for items that are not part of the declared “emergency”.
“Experts at Goldman Sachs identified at least three other ways Trump could impose tariffs outside of the Emergency Economic Powers Act of 1977 that Trump used for the "Liberation Day" levies. Those include a law that allows tariffs of up to 15% for up to 150 days; a 1930 law that has never been tried; and an authority that would allow tariffs after an investigation of unfair trade practices by foreign countries, which could take weeks or months.”
In truth, it was always a huge tax hike on regular Americans.
And to wipe out all small businesses and contract workers here in US, so that from sea to shining sea is a corporate/Federal Reserve ranch of oligarchs and serfs.
My son works for a small winery broker in Napa CA. Maybe 4-5 works total , buying and selling wines, about 800k-1 million a year. They’ve already lost 100k in business. Since the EU uncertainty and the proposed 50% tariff pending, all the wines from France, Spain, Italy ect will very possibly cease the business by 2026.
And what have they to do with “Fetanyl?” Or a “national emergency”… ? zilch. This is the Russian “Shock Doctrine” Naomi Klein wrote about, applied to the U.S. citizens. Nothing more.
Posted by: Trubind1 | May 29 2025 17:19 utc | 42
Vindication. When the tariffs were announced, myself and others averred they wouldn't stand up to judicial scrutiny. What was decided was just one of several suits made over the tariffs. The decision is a rather small victory for the little people in the Class War, but it's still a victory, although the War continues. The next fight will be in the Senate over the House passed budget bill where I hope it will be voted down and sent back to the House. Internationally, the modification of trade will continue despite the decision because the world has learned Trump will not cede his Crusade.
@ Posted by: Trubind1 | May 29 2025 17:19 utc | 42
The fentanyl scare-mongering was always so odd to me. We could have solved that problem easily: make it easier for addicts to get straight fucking morphine. The CIA used to bring crack into the ghettos, why not have the DEA distribute clean morphine in the trailer parks, with a promise from users to use the opportunity to get straight?
Instead Trump's team is closing methadone clinics and defunding programs that made an appreciable dent in overdose rates in recent years. Trump, of course, doesn't give a shit about the average trailer park dweller. They don't even vote that often, and certainly they vote too often for Democrats. Might wanna kill a few of those white trash Democrat voters off before they all realize they got screwed out of their Medicaid and the Chinese are still working in the toaster plants.
Posted by: fnord | May 29 2025 17:28 utc | 44
Indeed. I agree with much of what has been said here.
And yet for all this.. Trump has achieved something substantial. He has stopped the foreign invasion from across the southern border.
Sadly, prevention never gets the same credit as fighting an actual (preventable?) disaster. And perhaps he will cave to his billionaire cheap-labor-uber-alles buddies and have unlimited legal immigration. But for now, credit where credit is due. This is the only reason I voted for Trump, and - so far - he has delivered.
Posted by: TG | May 29 2025 18:14 utc | 45
Hmm perhaps invading Venezuela will be the diversion. Even the craziest of hawks know invading Iran won’t be easy.
Posted by: Sick and tired | May 29 2025 18:17 utc | 46
As an American, I have had a gutful of Trump already. There was a brief moment in the first week of his term where things might have not been a complete shitshow but I guess that's over now. I basically tuned out during Biden and I guess I'll tune out during Trump - four years of wailing static surrounding endless war and endless debt - that's American foreign and domestic policy.
I honestly don't even know what kind of leader would be able to fix this - it seems American "Deep State" policy is set in titanium and concrete and the politicians are just there to kabuki fight for the peons while the country gets looted by our "elites."
Quite frankly, I'm not even sure what the solution is myself at this point. Disband the military? Disband the federal government? Ban jews from running for office? At the very least we should ban dual nations (Mossad infiltrators) from holding any power at all (fat chance, but I can dream).
Posted by: Argh | May 29 2025 18:25 utc | 47
Interesting that posters who actively reject the narrative on Ukraine are quite happy to swallow it when it concerns Trump. This was on the cards three weeks ago, so doubt it came as a surprise to the Trump Administration and portraying it as a victory for the people is a akin to agreeing that Ukraine was the blameless party in the current conflict, given the exact opposite is the case. Or do, corrupt, partisan judges, who ignore the laws they are supposed to uphold, trump (pun intended) the will of the majority of those who voted for such economic measures.
In the real world, where posters readily agree Ukraine is close to defeat, the price of fuel and everyday goods in the US continues to drop, the catastrophe predicted by experts, due to tariffs, strangely never arrived, just as the economic numbers had to be revised upwards (always the reverse when Democrats are in charge), whilst the number of people who think the country is on the right track is a majority, which has never happened before IIRC to the pollster concerned.
Posted by: Milites | May 29 2025 18:36 utc | 49
Judges in the western world have never been allowed to meddle in geopolitical considerations. A few examples:
- the sanctions against Syria that prevented food and medicines from being delivered in violation of humanitarian law,
- the comical position of the UK still declaring juan guaido as president so that venezuelian gold can keep being stolen,
- giving support to a genocidal State,
- and obviously, the highway robbery of Russia sovereign assets and even of russian billionaires.
So what happened, did judges suddenly realise that some funny piece of paper says they are independent and can go against the State apparatus?
Of course not. What we are seeing is a fight between Trump and the oligarchy that just wants "business as usual".
Posted by: Ythisah | May 29 2025 18:49 utc | 50
There is quite a time between:
karlof1 | May 29 2025 17:25 utc | 43
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TG | May 29 2025 18:14 utc | 44
Now, knowing Karlof's penchant for self-promotion, he may well argue that the board was overwhelmed by his brilliance..fair enough. However, I would argue that comments were being sent to the nether world to await the final coming of our Sky-Pilot...at least mine was.
Posted by: S Brennan | May 29 2025 18:55 utc | 51
Posted by: Ythisah | May 29 2025 18:49 utc | 49
RE: "did judges suddenly realize they can go against the State?"
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A resistance element has commandeered the Judicial Branch of the U.S. government to preempt the Executive Branch.
The issue is *more than* tariffs, yea or nay.
It concerns the scope of powers of each governmental branch (the 3rd branch being the Legislative.)
Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 29 2025 18:58 utc | 52
The economist is full of wishful thinking these days. Courts spend a lot of time attempting to arrive at a predetermined outcome rather than the merits of the case. The law in question is still on the books. I believe USCOIT decided not to apply it because if they had it would have raised an immediate claim that the emergency economic powers act transcends trade and falls outside their jurisdiction. IE they applied the trade act exclusively because is the only one they can adjudicate. I don't see why SCOTUS would necessarily side with USCOIT, maybe they will, but I don't think it is the slam dunk portrayed by The Economist.
The assertion by USCOIT that congress cannot delegate this authority seems specious as the court would not interpreting law but dictating to congress which powers they are allowed to delegate with some being "overly broad" at the courts sole discretion. This by itself is a separation of powers issue and beyond the jurisdiction of a trade court.
As for the law itself US code clearly gives the president the ability to declare an emergency without specifying exact conditions for it. And, once an emergency is declared, the executive has the ultimate authority regarding foreign entities. Congress must only be consulted.
TITLE II—INTERNATIONAL EMERGENCY ECONOMIC POWERS:
SEC. 203. 5 (a)(1) At the times and to the extent specified in section 202, the President may, under such regulations as he may prescribe, by means of instructions, licenses, or otherwise—
(A) investigate, regulate, or prohibit—
(i) any transactions in foreign exchange,
(ii) transfer of credit or payments between, by, through, or to any banking institution, to the extent that such transfers or payments involve any interest of any foreign country or a national thereof,
(iii) the importing or exporting of currency or securities, 6 by any person, or with respect to any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States;
(B) investigate, block during the pendency of an investigation, 7 regulate, direct and compel, nullify, void, prevent or prohibit, any acquisition, holding, withholding, use, transfer, withdrawal, transportation, importation or exportation of, or dealing in, or exercising any right, power, or privilege with respect to, or transactions involving, any property in which any foreign country or a national thereof has any interest by any person, or with respect to any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States; and 8 .
(C) 9 when the United States is engaged in armed hostilities or has been attacked by a foreign country or foreign nationals, confiscate any property, subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, of any foreign person, foreign organization, or foreign country that he determines has planned, authorized, aided, or engaged in such hostilities or attacks against the United States; and all right, title, and interest in any property so confiscated shall vest, when, as, and upon the terms directed by the President, in such agency or person as the President may designate from time to time, and upon such terms and conditions as the President may prescribe, such interest, or property shall be held, used, administered, liquidated, sold, or otherwise dealt with in the interest of and for the benefit of the United States, and such designated agency or person may perform any and all acts incident to the accomplishment or furtherance of these purposes.
See:
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/COMPS-1079/pdf/COMPS-1079.pdf
The law is quite explicit. The president has the authority, granted to him by congress no less, to do practically whatever he wants regarding foreign entities in an emergency. The act goes far beyond tariffs. There are some exceptions involving things of no value, donated foodstuff, and informational materials, but this isn't what The Economist was referencing.
Also, there are other possible responses outside of appeal. By calling these tariffs the administration put itself under the jurisdiction of the trade court. Instead the countries and business could simply be sanctioned. Sanctioned entities have little prospect of success in US courts as they would need permission from the US in order to sue.
See:
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/Sovereign_immunity
I think this is far from settled.
Posted by: port | May 29 2025 19:00 utc | 53
image
vultures feeding on a carcass...
Posted by: james | May 29 2025 15:35 utc | 7
Sky burial
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_burial#
Posted by: Tannenhouser | May 29 2025 19:01 utc | 54
Posted by: port | May 29 2025 19:00 utc | 52
RE: this is far from settled
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In important ways this is merely the counteroffensive to DJT's opening salvo, which was instituting the *tariff war* altogether.
Judicial overreach is a thing.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 29 2025 19:18 utc | 55
Posted by: james | May 29 2025 15:35 utc | 7
Posted by: Tannenhouser | May 29 2025 19:01 utc | 53
RE: enskyment
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I had walked since dawn and lay down to rest on a bare hillside
Above the ocean. I saw through half-shut eyelids a vulture wheeling
high up in heaven,
And presently it passed again, but lower and nearer, its orbit
narrowing,
I understood then
That I was under inspection. I lay death-still and heard the flight-
feathers
Whistle above me and make their circle and come nearer.
I could see the naked red head between the great wings
Bear downward staring. I said, "My dear bird, we are wasting time
here.
These old bones will still work; they are not for you." But how
beautiful
he looked, gliding down
On those great sails; how beautiful he looked, veering away in the
sea-light
over the precipice. I tell you solemnly
That I was sorry to have disappointed him. To be eaten by that beak
and
become part of him, to share those wings and those eyes—
What a sublime end of one's body, what an enskyment; what a life
after death.
"Vulture" by Robinson Jeffers
Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 29 2025 19:23 utc | 56
Posted by: AleaJactaEst | May 29 2025 15:16 utc | 2
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I have been reading CTH since Sundance flipped out the night of the Iowa Caucus in 2016. The last time he was publicly critical of Trump.
The thing about Sundance's analysis is that it makes logical sense, but doesn't manifest in reality because there is a social component to government that
He.
Just.
Does.
Not.
Grasp.
The bigger message here eludes the wonkish among us. When the courts start arguing with Trump, that is an important signal. Like them or not, millions of Americans trust the courts more than any politician.
As stated, the big investment firms that can move markets with their public statements are broadcasting uncertainty, which is terrible for markets.
Trump just has to lose the House to make this a total fiasco and lame duck presidency. He is well on his way. Back-to-school inventories will be stretched to the breaking point. Forget X-Mas 2025. LOL
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 29 2025 19:24 utc | 57
My bad, 2015. As I am getting older, the years start to blend together.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 29 2025 19:25 utc | 58
Financial Times coined DJT's new favorite acronym: TACO for Trump Always Chickens Out, referencing tariff zig-zags. If you feel like watching steam come out of his ears, ask DJT what he thinks of TACO. (My ballcap is on order!)
Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 29 2025 16:16 utc | 23
Get off the Dem train, Aleph. Think about that slogan. It's one Imperialist insulting another.
Do you want him to be ballsier? Would that be better? Maybe he can embargo the whole world and drop nukes on them?
Just dumb. The slogans will come organically from the people.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 29 2025 19:27 utc | 59
It seems to me Musk took care of himself and is now distancing himself from the likely rising unpopular fallout.
Posted by: WG | May 29 2025 19:29 utc | 60
Posted by: port | May 29 2025 19:00 utc | 52
Its a good ruling, how is Fentanyl Unusal and Extraordinary? I cant think of anything more usual and ordinary than the threat of Drug addiction in the US.
SITUATIONS IN WHICH AUTHORITIES MAY BE EXERCISED
SEC. 202. 4 (a) Any authority granted to the President by section 203 may be exercised to deal with any unusual and extraordinary threat, which has its source in whole or substantial part outside the United States, to the national security, foreign policy, or economy of the United States, if the President declares a national emergency with respect to such threat.
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Commentary Federalist Society:
We also argue that the purported justifications for the tariffs do not constitute “unusual and extraordinary” threats as required by the statute. Indeed, the President’s orders themselves make that case, purporting to address a “sustained influx of synthetic opioids” and “persistent annual U.S. goods trade deficits” (emphasis added). While these may well be serious policy concerns, it strains credulity to label them unusual or extraordinary and chafes against the understanding of the IEEPA-enacting Congress, which recognized that “emergencies are by their nature rare and brief, and are not to be equated with normal ongoing problems.”
Finally, we argue that if IEEPA does authorize tariffs and the “unusual and extraordinary” nature of the threat is not justiciable, the law itself unconstitutionally transfers Congress’s legislative power to the President and is therefore invalid. Article I of the Constitution vests in Congress “all legislative Powers herein granted,” and first among those is the power to lay taxes, duties, imposts, and excises. The Supreme Court has made clear that the Constitution “permits no delegation of those [legislative] powers,” but it has grappled since shortly after the founding with how to determine when such an impermissible delegation has occurred.
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But a good ruling doesnt mean it will withstand politicized courts.
Posted by: Deniz | May 29 2025 19:30 utc | 61
--------> Appeals court reinstates DJT's tariffs <----------
You have the options of 3-D chess, ping-pong or yo-yo. Choose.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 29 2025 19:35 utc | 62
Posted by: Deniz | May 29 2025 19:30 utc | 60
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Where there is power, there will be politics. Courts have power, so they are implicitly political.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 29 2025 19:36 utc | 63
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 29 2025 19:24 utc | 56
RE: "millions of Americans trust the courts more than any politician"
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Erm...., after lawfare last year I doubt that that is the case.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 29 2025 19:38 utc | 64
Re: President's use of emergency powersI think this is far from settled.
Posted by: port | May 29 2025 19:00 utc | 52
Here in Canada, Trudeau's use of our Emergency Powers legislation to eliminate the Trucker Convoy "nuisance" was found to be unconstitutional by a judicial review. The decision came far too late.
Similarly, Trump's use of the fentanyl crisis to invoke tariffs on China, Canada and Mexico was bogus. To invoke an emergency on that basis there must a relationship between the problem and the emergency remedy. There were far more seizures of fentanyl coming into Canada than going to the USA. This in spite of Canada having 1/10th sized market.
How do tariffs solve a fabricated problem? The real problem was lax US border inspections and/or systemic corruption in the border guards, police and prosecutors.
Posted by: Fool Me Twice | May 29 2025 19:45 utc | 65
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/29/blocked-trump-tariffs-trade-court-appeal.html
I hope this finds you well
Posted by: ockham | May 29 2025 19:53 utc | 67
People call it the Outlaw US of A for a reason.
DJT is just bringing more chaos to the table and precipitating the rapid fall out of a broken nation.
Dodgy Musk -- the agent -- got what he wanted [data and more private data] but now he's ready to go.
Posted by: pepe | May 29 2025 19:59 utc | 68
"...after lawfare last year I doubt that that is the case" steel_porcupine 63
Concur, after the abject politicization of the court system by the DNCers, the country, who had once held the courts in high regard, was asked to vote on what the courts behavior. And it was democratically decided that officers of the court had abused their privileges. The judiciary, through their own strident efforts, have come to be viewed as nothing more than political hacks.
Posted by: S Brennan | May 29 2025 20:00 utc | 69
Invasion at the Southern Border? Just lifting the sanctions on Venezuela would do the trick.
Posted by: azeclecticdog | May 29 2025 20:08 utc | 70
The Powell Memo undermined the US Justice System.
Posted by: azeclecticdog | May 29 2025 20:09 utc | 71
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 29 2025 19:24 utc | 56
And in the real world….. https://www.reuters.com/business/us-ruling-that-trump-tariffs-are-unlawful-stirs-relief-uncertainty-2025-05-29/
I seriously doubt you frequent TCTH, Sundance has an 80% success rate, correctly predicting the trajectory and outcome of most of the political events since Trump initial candidacy. If you think the public like the fact that the judges are deciding to be more powerful than the President, abrogating powers to themselves that are unconstitutional (shopping in the wee hours for an ideologically sympathetic judge, to issue a TRO that covers the entire country) or refusing recusal when it’s proven they personally benefit from their judgements, you’ve sipped too much of that sweet, sweet TDS flavoured Kool-Aid.
Posted by: Milites | May 29 2025 20:12 utc | 72
Another court, and another judge, rules against Trump's tariffs.
Posted by: azeclecticdog | May 29 2025 20:19 utc | 73
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/29/blocked-trump-tariffs-trade-court-appeal.html
Posted by: Anon | May 29 2025 20:24 utc | 74
Is the trade court like the FISA court, a way to get around the unconstitutional spying on citizens by having secret judges rubberstamp secret petitions?
Or is it like the trade courts set up by NAFTA and CAFTA, a way to let corporations get around laws passed by national governments by setting up unaccountable courts staffed by corporate shills?
Inquiring minds want to know.
Posted by: wagelaborer | May 29 2025 20:35 utc | 75
It seems to me Musk took care of himself and is now distancing himself from the likely rising unpopular fallout.
Posted by: WG | May 29 2025 19:29 utc | 59
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Maybe BYD is crushing Tesla in Europe and new markets.
Musk has to put out fires at home. His sabbatical for political ambitions has run out of gas (pun intended).
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 29 2025 20:38 utc | 76
Direct link to the appellate court ruling:
https://www.cafc.uscourts.gov/opinions-orders/25-1812.ORDER.5-29-2025_2522636.pdf
Posted by: port | May 29 2025 20:40 utc | 77
Inquiring minds want to know.
Posted by: wagelaborer | May 29 2025 20:35 utc | 74
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Why?
In 2 weeks, this will be forgotten. Trump seizes the headlines usually for a maximum of 3 news cycles. Anything longer, he doesn't like because he cannot control it.
This is like when Nordstream was wrecked. Overnight at MoA. Dozens of regulars became underwater demolitions experts.
Watch the big picture, don't sift the sand, to study each grain. Time and attention are scarce commodities. Treat them as such.
TPTB use our focus on details to get away with the crime. It's brilliant to use your opponent's psychological drive to grasp minutiae against them as part of the caper.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 29 2025 20:49 utc | 78
Posted by: wagelaborer | May 29 2025 20:35 utc | 74
It's a court created to adjudicate trade disputes etc. There is nothing secret about it.
https://www.cit.uscourts.gov/about-court
Posted by: port | May 29 2025 20:50 utc | 80
b - Ukraine was what got me to your site but I've slowly come to realize since that you are nothing more than an American hating POS. Here's hoping your health issues come roaring back like the plague and find you bed ridden for the rest of your life, you miserable POS.
Posted by: TheInkaMatrix | May 29 2025 20:56 utc | 81
You're comment didn't age well, did it
Posted by: AleaJactaEst | May 29 2025 20:50 utc | 78
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How so?
Your post is how I know you have never imported goods for sale. The message all of this sends is that tariffs are on and off, and we don't know how this will play out in 6 months. As a businessman, investing a few million dollars in imported inventory is not a chance I can take. Too much risk. Firms hate risk, they can't trust that Trump will win in the end. They cannot be emotional about it.
All they know is that tariffs are on, and could be off on a moment's notice. Uncertainty is kryptonite to capital formation.
If anything, this situation makes my point even further. Trump is sinking once the courts (any court, any judgment) engage him. It denotes less than absolute authority if there is ANY dispute. No one is going to take his statements seriously if they think he could be overturned at any moment.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 29 2025 20:57 utc | 82
DOGE/Musk were excluded from going into the pentagon and MIC pork fest.
He would have revealed huge waste, and he would have come back with Silicon Valley fixes.
Opportunity lost, waste secured
Posted by: paddy | May 29 2025 21:04 utc | 83
Posted by: Milites | May 29 2025 20:12 utc | 71
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You're worried about the right/wrong of the situation. That's ironic of a Zionist.
There is right and there is wrong, and then there is politics, which is often neither.
It would make perfect sense to me that you're a regular at CTH.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 29 2025 21:04 utc | 84
Posted by: port | May 29 2025 20:50 utc | 79
The decision by Federal Trade Appeals Court is pending further review, but in the meantime, Trump can proceed with his Tarrifs that were stayed by the Trade Court decision.
"(2) The request for an immediate administrative stay is granted to the extent that the judgments and the permanent injunctions entered by the Court of International Trade in these cases are temporarily stayed until further
notice while this court considers the motions papers."
No legal authority was cited in the Appellate court's decision, so no determination on the Tarrif's legality has been made yet.
Posted by: Deniz | May 29 2025 21:12 utc | 85
Some weird talking points from the reactionary wing of the bar.
The dispersal of power through the three branches of the federal government where each acts as a check on the others is one of the only good things about the slavers' parchment, insofar as it holds back any of their individual authoritarian or fascistic impulses (this isn't always successful, as genocidaire Jackson's Indian Removal shows, among countless other injustices in US history). What the reactionaries seem to want is a presidential Fuhrerprinzip, where the president can make laws through executive fiat, and which the other components of the federal system are simply subject to. The reactionaries want to turn the president into a LatAm-style Caudillo.
Posted by: fnord | May 29 2025 21:14 utc | 86
It was two weeks ago, not three, read it and realise the fix was in with the judges being not selected at random, as usual, but because they would block the outcome. The DS is trying to goad Trump to go for the Jackson solution, where they hope they can try and impeach him or critically damage his reputation. The trouble with this strategy is that as it relies on the ability to manipulate public opinion the more partisan the judges act, the more damage they do to themselves, not their target.
If Trump’s economic and foreign policies become increasingly popular and the judges less so, as they constantly try to intervene and reverse them, on behalf of their political backers, then they risk Trump deciding to channel his inner 7 and throwing down the gauntlet. I’d also bet that there are growing files on these judges that will be revealed to back up this showdown, if it ever comes to it.
It’s similar to the situation in Ukraine with their over-reliance on drones, once the conditions of their use become affected the impact on the front is far greater than if one system failed or was countered. Similarly, once these ridiculous rulings are overturned, or ruled invalid, then what other methods do Trump’s opposition have to stop his agenda? Typically the opposition will have gone through a period of disruption, but by now have started the long process of self-reflection and be trying to win the arguments, but the Democrats are only now starting their civil war and refuse to seriously address the problems the party faces, e.g. having a lesbian advise on why the party does not appeal to traditional men is perhaps not the best way to tackle the growing gender gap between the parties.
As I’ve said before, Trump’s going for a paradigm shift that’s back to the future, including reversing the relatively new obsession with the first 100 days being a vital legislative period. He’s also tearing up the globalist and MIC playbooks, hence their attempt to thwart him on every stage. This is the real battle he’s focused on, with his real enemies arrayed against him, the bloody killing fields around the world and their participants are simply extensions of this conflict.
Posted by: Milites | May 29 2025 21:18 utc | 87
No legal authority was cited in the Appellate court's decision, so no determination on the Tarrif's legality has been made yet.
Posted by: Deniz | May 29 2025 21:12 utc | 84
Yep, now we wait. Key dates are June 5th and 9th.
Posted by: port | May 29 2025 21:26 utc | 88
What the reactionaries seem to want is a presidential Fuhrerprinzip, where the president can make laws through executive fiat, and which the other components of the federal system are simply subject to.
Posted by: fnord | May 29 2025 21:14 utc | 85
From where I'm sitting it's already like that and has been for some time. Executive orders, arbitrary policy redefinition by the CDC EPA FDA SEC FCC etc., all carry the power of law but are never legislated.
Posted by: port | May 29 2025 21:31 utc | 89
"What the reactionaries seem to want is a presidential Fuhrerprinzip, where the president can make laws through executive fiat, and which the other components of the federal system are simply subject to..." fnord - 85
In my earlier remark that fell into the no-comment period today I posted link to case where the judge ruled that Biden's Immigrant Parole Program, that was brought into being by Presidential fiat, can not be suspended by a subsequent President even though Team-Biden suspended it during the election and then reinstated after they lost. So when Fnord-85 makes a statement like above it's either artifice or ignorance. DNC appointed Judges are making national law and Fnord-85 supports their usurpation of power and displays profound ignorance of knowable facts
Shorter Fnord-85,
Fiat by President[D] is 👍 👍 👍 👍
Fiat by President[~R] is 👎 👎 👎 👎
Posted by: S Brennan | May 29 2025 21:38 utc | 90
Posted by: port | May 29 2025 20:50 utc | 79
My question was whether it was a secret court like FISA, or a corporate rubberstamper like the NAFTA courts. Apparently you misunderstood.
And your link doesn't answer my question about whether this court is biased towards corporations.
"As the impact of international trade on the U.S. economy has expanded, there has been a corresponding increase in international trade disputes — involving governments, foreign and domestic manufacturers, workers’ unions, trade associations, and individuals — and a continued need to provide consistent, fair, and impartial adjudication of these disputes."
Any insight as to the percentage of the disposition of cases brought by governments or workers vs corporations?
Posted by: wagelaborer | May 29 2025 21:42 utc | 91
@ Posted by: port | May 29 2025 21:31 utc | 88
It's certainly been going on for a long time, but the tendency is pronounced these days, they used to hide it much more. This is much more like the Bush jr. administration than the first go around.
@ Posted by: S Brennan | May 29 2025 21:38 utc | 89
I sat out on election day 2024 but I would have voted for Jill Stein like David Duke told me to had I not. No love lost for the Democrats, the nation's oldest bourgeois party, the executor of Indian Removal, and the party of slavery and segregation. If you ask me, the office of the president shouldn't exist, and the government should consist of a unicameral legislature with proportional party-list voting, what we coonasses call "Napoleonic law", and a court system with no power of judicial review.
But as long as Marbury v Madison stands there is no "usurpation", the courts have the authority to strike down laws which are unconstitutional, and that is for them to decide.
Posted by: fnord | May 29 2025 21:59 utc | 92
was brought into being by Presidential fiat, can not be suspended by a subsequent President even though Team-Biden suspended it during the election and then reinstated after they lost
Posted by: S Brennan | May 29 2025 21:38 utc | 89
Crazy isn't it. Completely nonsensical even to a layman. It reminds me of the time the prosecutor moved to dismiss the charges against General Flynn and the judge not only refused to dismiss the case, but took the extraordinary step of retaining his own counsel and amici curiae. At the time I really couldn't believe what I was reading.
Posted by: port | May 29 2025 22:04 utc | 93
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 29 2025 21:04 utc | 83
Any business that imported from countries like China and did not immediately have a meeting Nov 6th to discuss how they can seek other suppliers, or advance order stock, deserves to fail.
‘That’s ironic of a Zionist’, you love categorising people, so I’ll have a go, as it also seems to bestow the ability to ignore, or dismiss any opposing opinions. Here goes, ‘as a partisan ideologue, with religious skin in the game, whose seems to have their views shaped by equally partisan ideologues, with religious skin in the game’…. Sorry for the length, I’m not used to knee-jerk categorisations of posters, but I’m sure with practice I’ll improve.
On second thoughts, I’ll give that approach a miss, given that partisan ideologues, who inhabit echo chambers, have fucked up some very beautiful parts of the world.
Posted by: S Brennan | May 29 2025 21:38 utc | 89
Yup, love the fact the judges are insisting illegal immigrants are given due process, when they avoided due process coming in. In the end, the judges and their partisan interpretation of the law failed to stop 45 becoming 47, worse, for their DS handler, they actually assisted in re-electing him. Same here, as Trump’s domestic policies become more popular (60% support for immigration by Hispanics) the use of these hacks in black (they’re just a more evolved version of an MSM reporter) becomes counter-productive. So, cheer on the Boasberg’s and Contreras’ as they issue their corrupt rulings, because they are doing far more damage to their ‘side’ than an AG led investigation.
Posted by: Milites | May 29 2025 22:09 utc | 94
Why even bother with all this debate? Debating a trumpist is akin to debating an xtian in that the support for trump is an article of faith amongst trumpists just as the existence of the mythical j christ is among xtians. No amount of proof will sway them even as their 'lifestyle' heads for the gutter they will behave as they do when their weekly tithe leaves them unable to feed their family, that it is 'god/trump's will'.
I've got nothing against trump as I considered his undertaking to end one of the two currently visible (not counting the less visible 'hidden' wars in Africa & central America), amerikan wars was better than feeding all wars which was the dims' policy, but now he has demonstrated his inability to even achieve that, I hafta say he is even more incompetent than biden was and let's face it biden was very damn incompetent.
So in a nutshell arguing with a trumpist is like arguing with some xtian convinced that the world will end on May 15 when the date is May 16, pointless & energy sapping 'cos the outcome lacks any purpose.
Posted by: Debsisdead | May 29 2025 22:59 utc | 95
Posted by: Debsisdead | May 29 2025 22:59 utc | 94
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If I don't argue with them, how will they ever learn?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 29 2025 23:02 utc | 96
I always supported Trump. But I never thought he would actually pull it off. The man is too naïve.
Posted by: MaryPeck | May 29 2025 23:10 utc | 97
Posted by: S Brennan | May 29 2025 21:38 utc | 89
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Re: categorizing people, I don't have the time to get to know each one intimately, but I do allow for them to change my mind over time.
That said, those who stay "stuck on stupid" tend to dig a hole that they cannot climb out of, regardless of how open-minded I try to be.
It never ceases to amaze me how Americans have to see everything through an American lens. Someone who doesn't become a hardcore Trump supporter is "woke" or a Democrat. They have TDS if they offer any criticism, which will never be argued on its merits.
If I don't believe the "myth" of American exceptionalism, then I am a "hater".
Imagine a social view that is black and white, based upon shared delusions.
It is funny that a land that supposedly prides itself on "freedom" and "free-thinking" can shut down and denigrate dissent. But such are the times we live in.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 29 2025 23:11 utc | 98
So...in Romania a judge on the NATO's payroll decided that the winning candidate had Russian help. This judge did this without having before him a plaintiff or, a case and...without any evidence, just a proclamation of guilt without trial or hearing.
If you are a big supporter of US Judges imposing their dictata without any legal precedence or authority when it comes to 47 surely you support the export of this doctrine to Romania right? Or..do you support this in the US when directed against the current presidency but, oppose the same when the US uses the technique to undermine those who don't want to be the coalition of the willing er..eh cannon fodder.
The ethical hypocrisy shown by some posters [and B] on this subject is enough to give the average person whiplash.
Posted by: S Brennan | May 29 2025 23:14 utc | 99
If you are a big supporter of US Judges imposing their dictata without any legal precedence or authority when it comes to 47 surely you support the export of this doctrine to Romania right? Or..do you support this in the US when directed against the current presidency but, oppose the same when the US uses the technique to undermine those who don't want to be the coalition of the willing er..eh cannon fodder.
The ethical hypocrisy shown by some posters [and B] on this subject is enough to give the average person whiplash.
Posted by: S Brennan | May 29 2025 23:14 utc | 97
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I don't care.
No one cares. No one outside of America with an IQ above room temperature cares. America is passé. America is the past. It will have a nominal role in 30 years. There is no path to "fix" what ails it socially, politically, and economically.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 29 2025 23:41 utc | 100
The comments to this entry are closed.
last one out - turn off the lights, lol..
yes - war, as an escape hatch is the main tool... the american empire is over and it is all downhill from here... a spiritual crisis may lead to something positive, but first there has to be an acknowledgement of all this... hubris is a bitch...
thanks b..
Posted by: james | May 29 2025 15:14 utc | 1