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May 25, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-115

News & views related to the war in Palestine …

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Scott Ritter on what is humanity on Nima. Impressive. Dr Marandi comes across as very well informed and diplomatic.
BTW, when Dr Marandi mentions Mohamed Ali refusing the draft. He was a hero. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfyrEhdVoyY

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | May 27 2025 17:57 utc | 201

Posted by: Cynic | May 26 2025 20:27 utc | 154
I am pretty sure Israel would not do that.

Posted by: Newbie2 | May 27 2025 18:48 utc | 202

Roundup of commentary, various telegram sources linked previously…
•”American Company:
Due to the emergency situation related to the distribution of large quantities of food by SRS today, and the need to fully secure the aid, in addition to performing necessary maintenance on-site to ensure the smooth running of the operation, we would like to inform you that operations will be suspended tomorrow.”
•”Netanyahu:
There was no famine in Gaza because we arrested thousands of civilians and photographed them naked. They showed no signs of hunger. They don’t even exercise.”
•”Martyrs and wounded by Israeli army fire near the American company’s aid point in Rafah”
•”US State Department:
Gaza Foundation’s aid distribution mechanism successfully distributed half a million meals on its first day of operation.”
•”A massacre. 10 martyrs and 46 wounded by Israeli army fire near the American company’s aid point in Rafah”
•”Now humanitarian aid is heading towards Street 5 to the industrial area, with hundreds of citizens gathering in an attempt to seize it”
•”The gist of what happened today at the aid distribution center in the southern Gaza Strip after citizens went today to receive humanitarian aid in the area west of Rafah,
the occupation arrested 15 Palestinian citizens who went to receive the aid and took them to an unknown location. The occupation opened fire on the citizens, leaving martyrs and injuries. There are martyrs lying in the place after an occupation army tank fired two shells towards the crowds of citizens, as the occupation helicopter participated in firing towards the citizens, and an occupation sniper fired towards the citizens,
according to journalist Fadi Thabet”

Posted by: Ornot | May 27 2025 19:56 utc | 203

A disruption at an aid distribution location was predicted earlier in this thread. It happened today.
“Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Israel and the US “momentarily” lost control of their aid site in southern Gaza as it was stormed by starving Palestinians on Tuesday. “We worked out a plan with our American friends to have controlled distribution sites where an American company would distribute the food to Palestinian families,” Netanyahu said. “There was some loss of control momentarily. Happily, we brought it back under control,” he added.”
“Happily”… what was Netanyahu happy about? :
“At least three Palestinians were killed by Israeli fire during an aid stampede on Tuesday, as throngs of starving people rushed to retrieve food packages. According to Al Jazeera Arabic, three were killed and 46 wounded when the Israeli army fired into crowds of starving people.”

Posted by: jayc | May 27 2025 21:03 utc | 204

At this point I just don’t understand how the people of Gaza are surviving. Basically abandoned by every state (except Yemen) and with no hope in the near future. Not a lot of people would have endured better than these people have in the last 1,5 years. I don’t have any words for Muslim folks. But I’m glad that Saudis/UAE & Qatar (the so called HAMAS bank) will invest a shit ton of money into US.

Posted by: JamesBond | May 27 2025 21:18 utc | 205

“Where’s the media? Where’s the panel of experts? Where are the public statements?”
This is a genocide of Palestinians, and because they aren’t white people and in D.C., London, Berlin or Paris etc etc, the Western mainstream propaganda system discounts their lives completely. They are today’s Wretched of the Earth.
see the 43-second video at the first link
https://x.com/mamoun_linda/status/1926795962812416193
Linda Mamoun @mamoun_linda
Israel just bombed a school packed with families in Gaza. 19 people burned alive.
Where’s the media?
Where’s the panel of experts?
Where are the public statements?
https://x.com/JehadAbusalim/status/1926408032449143273
Jehad Abusalim @JehadAbusalim
This may be the first genocide where the perpetrators and their supporters openly push to annihilate and starve a people while demanding validation, acceptance, inclusion, safe spaces, and lived experience affirmation.
https://x.com/ecomarxi/status/1926698042020765991
Tiberius @ecomarxi
If you think you’re a journalist and you’ve not been constantly highlighting Israel’s crimes with UK/US/EU support for the last 19 months (and before), then you’re not a journalist, you’re a propagandist for the state.

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 27 2025 21:48 utc | 206

• What are they chanting though …”Truck US aid” ?
https://t.me/youseffares19/77677
•Via Journalist Youssef Fares
“Rami Abdo, head of the Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor:
The aid distributed today in Rafah, south of the Gaza Strip, was stolen by an Israeli-American company and the Israeli army from the Rahma International Foundation.
The Israeli-American company deceived Rahma, seized a number of its trucks, and then distributed them.”
•Behind the lines
“Dismantling the American-Zionist dream in Rafah:
Instead of receiving aid, citizens took over the distribution center itself, dismantling it piece by piece, in a scene that reflects a resounding failure of the most vicious tools of the siege.
It’s as if they’re saying: We will make your latest lethal weapon a laughingstock… and the world will laugh at you at the height of your tyranny.
This is Gaza, the conqueror of invaders, you scum of humanity! ”
•Journalist Ayman Hanideq
“The terrifying disappearance of dozens of young men inside the Israeli-American camp west of Rafah.
Shocking details:
Dozens of civilians lost contact after entering the camp to receive what was said to be “humanitarian aid.”
Families are calling for immediate information on the fate of their missing children amidst panic and anxiety.
What happened:
Occupation forces suddenly came out and cut off the roads leading to the area.
Those who remained inside the camp were not allowed to leave.
Martyrs and wounded lay on the ground after being targeted by tank shells and helicopter machine guns.
Beware of death traps under the guise of “aid” ”

Posted by: Ornot | May 27 2025 22:01 utc | 207

see the 3:19 video at the first/second link (graphic)
see the 17-second video at the third link
https://x.com/mehdirhasan/status/1926475213320974429
Mehdi Hasan @mehdirhasan
I’ll never forgive or forget the people who did this, the people who enabled this, the people who apologized for this, and the people who ignored this.
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1925970429665063206
Drop Site @DropSiteNews
🚨 BREAKING: Israeli forces burned to death 9 children of Dr. Alaa Al-Najjar, a pediatrician at Nasser Hospital, in a strike on her home in Khan Younis.
Civil defense crews recovered 9 bodies — 8 of them completely charred children — after extinguishing the fire. Dr. Al-Najjar was on shift when she learned that all 9 of her children had been killed.
⚠️ GRAPHIC
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1927477921255444847
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
Israeli settlers set fire to Palestinian agricultural fields in the village of Al-Mughayyir, northeast of Ramallah, West Bank.

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 27 2025 22:04 utc | 208

Via Gazanewsnow2021
“In the Name of God, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful
Press Release
The scenes of thousands of our people rushing into the center designated for the implementation of the occupation’s mechanism for distributing aid, accompanied by the firing of live ammunition at citizens who flocked to the distribution center under the pressure of hunger and siege, confirm beyond a shadow of a doubt the failure of this suspicious mechanism, which has turned into a trap that endangers the lives of civilians and is exploited to impose security control over the Gaza Strip under the guise of “aid.”
This plan was specifically designed to marginalize the role of the United Nations and its agencies, and aims to consolidate the occupation’s political and military objectives, and to control individuals rather than assist them, which constitutes a blatant violation of international humanitarian law.
The so-called “safe distribution sites” established in buffer zones are nothing but a forced model of booby-trapped “humanitarian corridors” through which those affected are deliberately humiliated, and aid is turned into a tool of blackmail as part of a systematic plan for starvation and subjugation, amidst the continued comprehensive ban on the entry of aid through official crossings, in clear violation of international legitimacy.
We call on the international community, the United Nations, and Arab and Islamic countries to take urgent action to stop this dangerous plan, and to pressure the occupation to open the crossings and enable the entry of aid through the United Nations and its internationally accredited humanitarian institutions.
Islamic Resistance Movement – ​​Hamas
Tuesday: 29 Dhu al-Qi’dah 1446 AH
corresponding to: May 27, 2025 AD”

Posted by: Ornot | May 27 2025 22:19 utc | 209

Via Ayman Hanideq
•” “I walked more than 10 kilometers, and they killed a young man in front of me” … a Palestinian man recounts the details of receiving a small amount of aid distributed by an American company in Rafah, after being forced to walk a long distance amid extremely difficult humanitarian conditions.”
•”UN Special Rapporteur on the Right to Adequate Housing: Sadistic Aid Delivery Scene in Gaza Is an American-Israeli Crime, and Its Delivery Is Used to Humiliate and Kill”
•”The Palestinian Center for Missing and Forcibly Disappeared Persons:
– We are following with concern the disappearance of a number of citizens after they headed this afternoon to one of the US aid distribution points in Rafah, south of the Gaza Strip.
– A number of citizens went there and have not returned to their homes by the time of issuing this statement, and there is no confirmed information about their fate.”
•Via Journalist Suhaib Al-Masalma
“Yedioth Ahronoth:
The political-security cabinet secretly approved the establishment of 22 settlements in Judea and Samaria (the West Bank) two weeks ago, including the re-establishment of Homesh and Sanur.
The following is the list of the settlements approved, as received by Ynet….”

Posted by: Ornot | May 27 2025 22:31 utc | 210

“Hell is empty and all the devils are here” – William Shakespeare, The Tempest
israel is an evil and wicked society.
See the 19-second video at the first link
https://x.com/mjmayo68/status/1927260301671412017
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
Israelis block aid trucks intended for the starving people in Gaza.
https://x.com/CraigMokhiber/status/1925626883850293365
Craig Mokhiber @CraigMokhiber
For decades to come, scholars will study how a small, oppressive, foreign regime (Israel), built on a deeply racist and fundamentally violent ideology (Zionism), gained so much control over the foreign & domestic policy of the US, UK, Germany & several other Western countries, compelling them to ignore the interests of their own countries, the wishes of their own citizens, international law, and even basic morality, to raid their treasuries and attack their own people, all on behalf of that one oppressive foreign regime.
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1927236755851272241
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
A second missile from Yemen on Israel today. Israel closed the air space and airlines suspend travelling to Ben Gurion airport.

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 27 2025 22:42 utc | 211

Livestream: Why Ireland is the Palestine of Europe:
https://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/livestream-why-ireland-palestine-europe

Posted by: Vortex | May 27 2025 22:42 utc | 212

I don’t accept the simplistic explanation this catastrophe serves any of the purposes which have been suggested. Netanyahu is not in danger of going to prison for fraud. The Messiah is not likely to be somebody else. Israel will not survive the disgrace of this genocide.
So what is the purpose of this humiliation and torture?
The US used the humiliation of Nazi Germany in WW2 to take control of Europe. The US denied Russia’s sacrifices to defeat Hitler and its bankruptcy after war. The US immediately set about acquiring Europe back from the bankrupt Soviet Union using Islamist proxies. The last kick in the balls for Russia and Germany was blowing up Nordstream.
The US and UK have declared their intention to control Asia and its resources. Israel’s freebie genocide gifted by US will be used to humiliate Isrsael , in the same way tbat Germany was humiliated and taken over by the US.
The US is completely obsessed, like Britain before it wth hegemony and Empire. Britain only stopped thinking about Empire after its defeat in Malaysia and then it decided to work with the US.
Netanyahu doesn’t work for Judaism, Zionism or Israel. Netanyahu, like Kissinger works for the US, and therefore for Britain’s interests.
Whatever dosh the US has handed Israel to make Greater Israel, the US and UK intend to grab it back, exactly as it is trying to grab back the money it has squandered on Ukraine.
No, I’m not tryjng to divide your attention. I’m just pointing out that everything about Judaism that US Evangelicals, and UK spooks like Alistaire Crooke, have ever talked about Ameleks and Greater Israel is total tripe.
The only thing worthy of our attention about this genocide is Cui Bono?
It is death to Judaism, Zionism and Isrsel. It is disgrace to Turkiye, Saudi, Qatar and UAE. It is honour to Hamas and Sinwar , and to the Shi’a Axis of Resistance. It is enabling US and UK to project power into Asia.
We had this long discussion about who controls whom between the US and Israel.
It has always been my view, having been brought up among the British elites that the British and US elites hate religion and morality of any and every sort. Both of them are obsessed with power and bullying others.
I therefore conclude that the evil of this genocide emanate from the Anglo-Saxons rather than the Jews. It’s about USUK power and bullying. USUK are manipulating Judaism and Zionism to gain control over Asia.
Fucking call a fucking spade a fucking spade. Instead of listening to Alistair Crooke describing internal conflict inside Israel, focus on who controls the ICJ and ICC, who controls Nato and its howling bonkers Islamist jackals, who controls banking and who therefore controls Russia and China.
All of these things are firmly in the reins of USUK power in one hand. In USUK’s other hand is a whip for thrashng the beast. They want you to waste your energy raging about Israel, but every single mechanism of control over Palestine , including Nukes, is in their hands. US and UK could stop the genocide in a heartbeat if they wanted to.
US and UK are making this genocide, and it would be a kindness to Asia to place the blame for the genocide on us. We have to divest ourselves of our senseless trust in the elites of the West who are thousand year old bad eggs, jackals, dogs.

Posted by: Giyane | May 27 2025 23:03 utc | 213

Fucking call a fucking spade a fucking spade. Instead of listening to Alistair Crooke describing internal conflict inside Israel, focus on who controls the ICJ and ICC, who controls Nato and its howling bonkers Islamist jackals, who controls banking and who therefore controls Russia and China.
Posted by: Giyane | May 27 2025 23:03 utc | 213

Capitalists hold the reins of the West. Some may be Jewish, but Jews do not constitute a class on their own. And no, capitalists do not control China because China is ruled by a communist party. Russia has its own cadre of capitalists ruling over them, but they mostly serve Russia’s interests, especially after the forced divestment from the West post-Ukraine conflict.

China, however, and that is what counts, has not, just like others, done anything concrete to stop the Zionist rampage. On the contrary, it has continued its business with Israel as if nothing is happening.
Posted by: JB | May 26 2025 8:55 utc | 105

Sickening to once again have our hopes raised , only to be crushed by the right wing USUKIS psychopaths and the apparently paralysed , former Communist countries of Russia and China.
Posted by: Giyane | May 27 2025 4:15 utc | 175

On the topic of the Chinese exporting goods globally, let’s talk drones.
China was selling drones to Ukraine – drones which Ukraine repurposed to kill Russian troops – until incessant American bleating made China publicly announce a drone export restriction to both Ukraine and Russia. That, of course, did not make Ukraine stop its accusations of China being responsible for arming Russia, as recently as a few days back (Al Jazeera and the Kyiv Independent).
China has even said bluntly, on January 2025, that “if China had really provided military supplies to Russia, the situation on the battleground would not have been where it is now” (Global Times). Harsh words for a friend of Russia, as it seems to insinuate either Russian military impotence or incompetence.
Did all of that change Russia’s stance towards China? Putin is one of the most West-friendly Russian leader (Putin wanted to join NATO), and in many ways, he still is despite being repeatedly betrayed by the West. But even Putin has the political acumen to stand together with China against hegemonic bullying (Al Jazeera, 8 May 2025). The Economist, of course, begs to differ: Xi Jinping has Vladimir Putin over a barrel, May 12th 2025. Like Trump, the Economist hopes to “un-unite” Russia and China by portraying the relationship between the two countries as unequal. The West, which includes MAGA (this shouldn’t need to be said but I know MoA’s audience too well), hate the sight of China and Russia together. If only they could be divided, they would be so easy to conquer!
The leader of the country with the most Muslims in the world, Indonesia, just praised China for being consistent in its support for Palestine two days ago. Both Indonesia and Malaysia, another Muslim-majority country in ASEAN, have always said that they support a two-state solution, a position that is also held by China. I’m quite sure Western liberals will have zero hesitation in condemning these countries, but why aren’t Palestinians speaking up against the treacherous snakes that are China, Indonesia and Malaysia for supporting a two-state solution instead of a one-state solution with equal rights for Palestinians and former Israelis?
China has relations with both Ansarallah a.k.a. the Houthis and the official UN-recognized government of Yemen. China trades with the Saudis too, the same Saudis who’ve been lobbing bombs at Ansarallah. Do you see Ansarallah denouncing China for trading with the KSA and for not siding only with Ansarallah?
South Africa still trades with Israel despite South Africa’s genocide case against Israel at the ICJ.
Let’s go back to WW2. Liberals love to use the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact to attack the USSR for being friends of the Nazi, conveniently ignoring that other Western nations not only were the first to appease Hitler but also materially supported Hitler’s rise. Stalin begged the West to work with him to stop Hitler, but the West refused. The West refused because Nazi Germany is a member of the West. The West wanted Nazi Germany to destroy the greatest threat it has ever faced – communism, as represented by the USSR. Stalin was forced to buy time using the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact so that the USSR is better prepared for the inevitable showdown with Nazi Germany. By equating the USSR with the rest of the West, Western liberals succeeded in obfuscating the West’s direct link to Hitler. Fascism is the purest expression of Western civilization. Don’t ever forget: Manifest Destiny gave birth to Nazism, and Nazism gave birth to Zionism.
I am on the record on MoA for “defending” Turkey against accusations that it enabled Assad’s collapse by arming and funding HTS – my position is that Turkey’s role is inconsequential when compared against the West. And while I have never said it on MoA (because I felt it didn’t need to be said), Russia is also not at fault for not “doing enough” to defend Assad. Neither is Assad at fault for failing to maintain control over Syria. Turkey undoubtedly had a hand in creating and supporting Uyghur separatism in China’s Xinjiang region, but I don’t care to castigate Turkey/Erdogan for dreaming of reviving the Ottoman Empire. The surrounding Arab countries not showing solidarity with the Palestinians and Saudi’s MBS being an opportunist? I don’t care for all that either. This is because the root cause of the problems afflicting Syria, Yemen, Gaza, Xinjiang, the whole wide world is the existence of US imperialism and its many misbegotten spawns – Nazism, Zionism, NATO, the West, Atlanticism etc. Would Turkey or KSA act the way they do if NATO or the petrodollar weren’t a thing?
Manifest Destiny needs to die. America needs to die.
A vast majority of the MoA commentariat are situated in the West or in the heart of capitalism itself, America, and are therefore incapable of mounting any serious resistance against imperialism because they materially benefit from imperialism. They will work tirelessly to divert attention and shift the responsibility for the ills of imperialism like the Gazan genocide to other countries, deliberately choosing to attack only targets which are at the forefront of fighting to free themselves and others from the grip that the US Empire has over the world.
If these Western liberals can’t affect change in governmental policies of their own countries, what hope do they have of influencing the governments of distant countries? All they will succeed in doing is to invent a casus belli for the West attack its geopolitical enemies and whip up war fervor in the Western populace – and I think that this is exactly what these liberals want. “China and Russia are not doing enough™ for the Palestinians! This just as bad as arming, funding and providing poltical cover for the Israelis! Let’s sanction and/or nuke China and Russia!”
Patton once said: “No bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country.” The West hungers for the charred flesh of the Russians and the Chinese. “Why won’t Russia and China serve themselves up for slaughter? Why don’t they deliberately kill their own economies (productive capacity) and spread themselves thin by engaging with every proxy conflict we stir up?” the West asks, lamenting Russia and China for not the entrapping themselves.
The candor in MoA commentariat’s expression of distaste for Russia and China is appreciated. Many in Russia and China still labor under the delusion that the West, including MAGA (I’m aware that this the second time I’ve made this emphasis), do not desire their destruction and can be negotiated with. The comments here show that even the most “fringe” politics in the West have the same end goal as mainstream politics of upholding imperialism.
Putin loves the West too much, or is perhaps too modest, when he only mentioned that Ukraine needed denazification. The entirety of the West needs denazification.

Posted by: All Under Heaven | May 28 2025 1:00 utc | 214

@205 James Bond
“At this point I just don’t understand how the people of Gaza are surviving…”
If a look could answer that…
https://t.me/youseffares19/77690
(His family members were martyred. Journalist Osama Al-Arabid was pulled from the rubble of his home, which was bombed by the occupation forces in the Al-Saftawi area, north of Gaza City.)

Posted by: Ornot | May 28 2025 1:08 utc | 215

Thread: Canada & Ebit Systems
https://x.com/martinezdefence/status/1927416977326514670
“On May 19 PM Carney claimed* Canada would take ‘concrete actions’ if Israel continued its military offensive in Gaza. Yet Canada continues its relationship with Israel’s largest military manufacturer and will welcome it into the country tomorrow…”
Carney’s claim is his ‘concrete actions’. There will be no other. He made the papers and so now can return to business with Israel as usual.
Serious virtue-signalling would at least entail expelling the genocide-state’s monstrous Zio-Nazi Ambassador.

Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 28 2025 1:48 utc | 216

Toronto Police Protect War Criminal Gilad Erdan
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKLTmaCty8V/
Free Palestine – Delete USrael & Lobby – Zio-Nazis OUT.

Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 28 2025 2:13 utc | 217

For those diligently pushing the “Russia and China are still trading with Israel” narrative (good job, I think the new unnamed non-USAID entity that’s receiving the funds that used to go to USAID and is now doing USAID’s job will be promoting you soon), here’s something else interesting for you to chew on:

https://ustr.gov/countries-regions/europe-middle-east/russia-and-eurasia/russia
U.S. total goods trade with Russia were an estimated $3.5 billion in 2024. U.S. goods exports to Russia in 2024 were $526.1 million, down 12.3 percent ($73.5 million) from 2023. U.S. goods imports from Russia totaled $3.0 billion in 2024, down 34.2 percent ($1.6 billion) from 2023. The U.S. goods trade deficit with Russia was $2.5 billion in 2024, a 37.5 percent decrease ($1.5 billion) over 2023.

Why is Russia giving the US physical goods that will enrich the lives of US citizens and also be eventually used against Russia in the battlefield?
Also, did I mention that both Indonesia and Malaysia still trade with Israel?

Palestinian Envoy Sees No Issue in Indonesia’s Trade with Israel, Jayanty Nada Shofa, May 10, 2024
https://jakartaglobe.id/business/palestinian-envoy-sees-no-issue-in-indonesias-trade-with-israel
Palestinian Ambassador to Indonesia Zuhair Al-Shun gave his comments on Friday regarding Indonesia’s existing trade with Israel, claiming that it would not affect Jakarta’s lack of official ties with the latter.
Indonesia to this day has not established official diplomatic ties with Israel as a way of support for Palestine. However, government data shows Indonesia is still trading with Israel with trade volume reaching approximately $187.7 million throughout 2023. Al-Shun said that the existing trade did not mean Indonesia would eventually normalize ties with Israel. His statement was also a response to the Jakarta Globe’s question on whether Palestine was hoping for Indonesia to impose economic sanctions against Israel.
“No political or diplomatic relations means it cannot be an easy way of dealing with trade and other sectors,” Al-Shun said in Jakarta.

Malaysian government defends presence of companies that supply weapons to Israel at defense show, May 7, 2024
https://apnews.com/article/malaysia-israel-arms-suppliers-exhibition-f697eea39d565757ea0f63ddd2dd67d2
KUALA LUMPUR, Malaysia (AP) — Malaysia will not interfere in business relations between arms manufacturers and other countries, its defense minister said Tuesday, after protesters demanded that the government expel companies that supply weapons to Israel from an international exhibition.

What I am trying to articulate with so many words here that I’m sure most of MoA will skip past is this: Go fuck yourself and go fuck your ignorance on how imperialism and global trade works, Giyane. Oh, and I only used the word “fuck” because you seemed to have an affinity for it. I’m not opposed to rolling in the mud with pigs and bringing myself down to their level.
JB never used the word “fuck” in this thread, but you know what? Fuck you too, JB.

Posted by: All Under Heaven | May 28 2025 2:14 utc | 218

this whole fake-aid charade is in fact a crime against humanity. you are a war criminal if you use starvation tactics in any war/conflict
it is hindering real aid from the 6,000+ trucks waiting outside Gaza, and the International Community agrees, none of the UN or legit international aid organizations will participate in this criminal nonsense.
see the 14-seoncd video at the first link
see the 48-second video at the second/third link
see the 53-second video at the fifth link
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1927375214985232473
Sarah Wilkinson @swilkinsonbc
Amercian mercenaries lost control of the fake aid distribution in the first minutes: as predicted, israelis start shooting #GazaDeathCamps
https://x.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1927438484924748145
Lowkey @Lowkey0nline
Apocalyptic scenes in Gaza, where Israel is burying humanity.
https://x.com/gazanotice/status/1927413223239668119
Gaza Notifications @gazanotice
🚨BREAKING : Thousands of starved Gazans stormed the dystopian Israeli-American aid complex in west Rafah after being forced to stand in endless queues under the scorching sun inside a fenced camp, subjected to biometric surveillance.
The US-Israeli backed “Gaza Humanitarian Foundation” responded by opening fire on civilians after losing control. The group has no humanitarian record and operates without oversight, while Israel continues to block UNRWA and WFP from providing real aid.
https://x.com/LDelsoll/status/1927422845291741575
🅻🅳🅴🅻🆂🍉🅻 @LDelsoll
Not surprising at all. Starve them, cage them, then shoot when they resist. This isn’t a humanitarian operation, it’s a high-tech hostage situation run by occupiers playing savior. Blocking real aid while staging this circus is state-sponsored cruelty.
https://x.com/dancohen3000/status/1927388797211152430
Dan Cohen @dancohen3000
The “Gaza Humanitarian Foundation”, designed to supplant Hamas rule, began operations today.
Starving Palestinians overran the caged checkpoint and took all supplies as American mercenaries fled the scene.
The scam failed, at least for today.

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 28 2025 2:31 utc | 219

re Hay’at,
Sorry to be a buttinsky, but, in Farsi, as well as Arabic, hay’at means Party. Of course there is no letter ‘p’ in Arabic, so, Barty. 🙂

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | May 28 2025 2:47 utc | 220

Blumenthal/Mate: The Grayzone Live (& vid)
https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1927456281708601687
“Crumbs from the master’s table…”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 28 2025 2:55 utc | 221

see the 17-second video at the first/second link
https://x.com/s_m_marandi/status/1927457160637587552
Seyed Mohammad Marandi @s_m_marandi
The US, the EU, Canada, the UK, Australia, and New Zealand are just as demonic and satanic as the Israeli regime.
History will never forget what the collective West has done to the Palestinian people in front of the watching eyes of the world.
#GazaHolocaust
https://x.com/HalaJaber/status/1927453513375785235
Hala Jaber @HalaJaber
1. Gaza is the 2025 version of a concentration camp.
Tens of thousands starved for 86 days. Then came “aid…” a chaotic, humiliating spectacle wrapped in barbed wire & guarded by American mercenaries.
Even they fled when desperation breached the fence.

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 28 2025 3:02 utc | 222

Are really 6,000 UNRWA trucks waiting outside ?

Posted by: Exile | May 28 2025 3:14 utc | 223

israel is a bat-shit crazy society
https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1926633103709143489
Max Blumenthal @MaxBlumenthal
New Penn State poll confirms Jewish Israeli society is comprehensively fascist, completely unredeemable, and a dire threat to humanity:
-82% support the forced expulsion of residents of Gaza
-56% support the forced expulsion of Arab citizens of Israel
-47% believe the Israeli army should “act like the biblical Israelites under Joshua in Jericho—killing all inhabitants of a conquered city”
-65% “believe in a modern-day incarnation of Amalek, a biblical enemy of the Jews”
-93% of those who believe in “Amalek” believe the biblical command to “erase Amalek” still applies today
-69% of secular Israelis support expelling Gaza’s population, and 31% support mimicking the biblical destruction of Jericho
-Just 9% of men under 40 oppose all genocide scenarios for Palestinians

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 28 2025 3:58 utc | 224

The sadist food distribution scheme unfolding in Gaza reminds one of the Small Pox blankets given to Native Americans in the 18th and 19th Centuries.
BTW – here in occupied Europe, more and more Palestine sourced news articles are being blocked.

Posted by: exile | May 28 2025 4:32 utc | 225

All Under Heaven 218
Thank you for your reply and for explaining many things that I had raised and I agree with nearly everything you say. I’m not sure that Erdogan himself wants to restore the Ottoman Empire, but his Deep State manifestly does, so without complying with their wishes he doesn’t get to run a Muslim country on the edge of Europe , and an international hub.
I do fully agree with your Fuck my ignorance about how international trade and relations work. Fuck it. I went to school with the children of the political elite and I detected the powerful stench of sulphur in their thoughts . So I turned my back on them and learned about Book Conservation for 15 years until Thatcher’s sulphurous Empire2 politics choked me out.
‘The comments here show that even the most “fringe” politics in the West have the same end goal as mainstream politics of upholding imperialism.’
Your words are my exact thoughts.
Don’t blame me for my ignorance, blame the Nazism and Imperialism which you say, and I agree with you, underlies Western politics. The West is incurable and irredeemable, and once I realised this , I stopped thinking about how to change it and found Islam instead.

Posted by: Giyane | May 28 2025 4:39 utc | 226

Posted by: exile | May 28 2025 4:32 utc | 225
Nothing alike. As soon as germ theory became a thing in the 19th century they stopped the donation of blankets from sanitariums. Most of which were sent to poor houses in cities and not out to the reservations. Deliberate starvation of the natives however did occur. As did using the army to expel and mass murder them. They even got them to gather in locations with the promise of food and then turned the guns on them. Small pox was too scary to them to deliberately use as a weapon. Inoculation rates were too low and the high urban density on the East Coast combined with large numbers of migrants made small pox outbreaks a problem for their own populations.

Posted by: Badjoke | May 28 2025 4:50 utc | 227

218 All Under Heaven. So one should not think that the experiences of China in the Maoist Communist Revolution and that of the Russian Revolution will have any influence on their actions today when flagrant violations of international law and human rights — barbaric murder of entire populations — happen? All the ideas and aspirations that the revolutions of China and Russia inspired around the world and even within the Palestinian Resistance (which was taught and enabled to form a cohesive insurgency by China during the Mao era) are without substance in today’s late capitalist world and should be discarded. One must not expect that such history should ever inspire the international play of capitalism, world trade, to be put off kilter by support for BDS (in spite of South Africa’s history) by any major powers — don’t expect even the most mundain of political condemnation by closing embassies, or refusing to host visits by genociding heads of state.
Your example of US/Russia trade is supposed to disabuse anyone from having any expectations that Russia might be expected to behave any differently from the US in the future. That doesn’t mean they can’t be held to past teachings.

Posted by: Lavieja | May 28 2025 5:34 utc | 228

but, in Farsi, as well as Arabic, hay’at means Party.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | May 28 2025 2:47 utc | 220
No. I don’t know about Farsi, but in Arabic it is more general than ‘party’. When I worked in Baghdad, in the time of Saddam, the government sub-ministerial unit I worked with was called al-hay’a al-‘amma, which was translated as ‘State Organisation’.

Posted by: laguerre | May 28 2025 5:42 utc | 229

228 Lavieja CORRECTION:
“One must not expect that such history should ever IMPEDE the international play of capitalism”, not ‘inspire.’

Posted by: Lavieja | May 28 2025 5:55 utc | 230

see the 25-second video at the first link
see the 17-second video at the second link
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1927471624728584460
MenchOsint @MenchO
🇸🇳⚡️🇵🇸 Senegalese students chased out the Israeli Ambassador Yuval Waks out of Dakar University, at the chant of Free Palestine.
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1927471949808333079
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
“Free Palestine, No to Genocide”
Senegal 🫡
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https://caitlinjohnstone.com.au/2025/05/28/sorry-if-this-is-antisemitic-but-i-think-its-wrong-to-burn-children-alive/
Sorry If This Is Antisemitic But I Think It’s Wrong To Burn Children Alive
…..Never forget that the US Congress gave Netanyahu dozens of standing ovations during a single speech while he was in the middle of perpetrating history’s first live-streamed genocide. This is who they are. It will always be who they are.
Israel has done more to promote hatred toward Jews in the last year and a half than Stormfront has in its entire existence. No white supremacist propaganda will ever be as effective at spreading hatred against Jews as openly mass murdering children under a Star of David flag……
…..World Food Programme director Cindy McCain is saying that she’s seen no evidence of Hamas stealing aid entering Gaza. Israel’s one and only argument for continuing to block aid to Gaza is being publicly debunked by a member of one of the most pro-Israel families in US politics……

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 28 2025 6:09 utc | 231

The Resonance
@Partisan_12
“If a B∅mb Falls On a Hospital In Ukraine.., Ursula Von Der Leyen Says It’s A War Crime…if Many B∅mbs Fall In Gaza, Well It’s 1$rael’s Right To Defend Themselves…”
—Janine di Giovanni exposes West’s hypocrisy..
https://x.com/Partisan_12/status/1927224791599026564

Posted by: Menz | May 28 2025 6:15 utc | 232

Quds News Network
@QudsNen
Israeli occupation soldiers loot a jewelry store in the center of Nablus in the occupied West Bank.
https://x.com/QudsNen/status/1927270717197807934

Posted by: Menz | May 28 2025 6:16 utc | 233

Square profile picture
Drop Site
@DropSiteNews
BREAKING: Despite public statements from the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) announcing the start of operations, no food aid entered the Strip today, a humanitarian coordinator in central Gaza told Drop Site News.
“Today not a single aid truck entered Gaza—except for three trucks carrying chlorine for the desalination plant in western Deir al-Balah. As for food aid, no flour or food items entered today at all,” he said.
▪️GHF, for its part, stated that it had commenced operations on Monday and delivered truckloads of food to newly established distribution sites, from which it said supplies were distributed to Palestinians. While the group did not say how much food was delivered, it released a photo showing Palestinians in Gaza collecting boxes of aid.
▪️The Gaza humanitarian coordinator disputed this point, telling Drop Site:
“The claims that [Palestinian civilians] went there for food today are not true; GHF has not conducted any distribution, either directly or through intermediaries, up to this point.”
▪️This coordinator, who liaises with international aid organizations and represents thousands of families in Deir al-Balah, added that GHF’s “media statements and publicity far outweigh their actual presence on the ground.”
He also said most Palestinian transport companies have refused to work with the group, and that local firms have issued statements rejecting coordination.
“GHF has no local recognition and no cooperation from UN agencies,” he said. “They are struggling to find a practical foothold just to appear operational.”
According to Times of Israel, a small number of lesser-known organizations have agreed to partner with GHF so far, including the U.S.-based aid group Rahma Worldwide, whose logo appears on the boxes seen in Monday’s photos.
GHF has said more trucks are expected to arrive tomorrow and that the flow of aid will increase daily.
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1927508803437625614

Posted by: Menz | May 28 2025 6:21 utc | 234

Good summary of the “aid” operation in Gaza:
https://www.middleeasteye.net/trending/dehumanisation-design-us-israeli-gaza-aid-operation-descends-chaos
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from above article:
According to a political analyst from Gaza, Muhammad Shehada, the contents of the aid packs were almost entirely Israeli products, and he said Israel is “profiting from” this aid scheme. 
Tweet:
Israel is profiting big time from its genocide: the meager aid packs a few Gazans received today were almost entirely Israeli products with visible Hebrew writing on
So this shell Israeli-American mercenary group is helping Israel make some money from starving Gaza to death!
https://x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1927384132692132130?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1927384132692132130%7Ctwgr%5Ef9f530a2feaffdc431c379c077f9783f8f68c9d0%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.middleeasteye.net%2Ftrending%2Fdehumanisation-design-us-israeli-gaza-aid-operation-descends-chaos
Tweet with short video and pic of cages that the Palestinians were supposed to wait in:
US mercenaries ran away & abandoned their positions as thousands of starved Gazans stormed the complex after being crowded like animals in a fenced cage all day, waiting for food
IDF opened fire at the crowd & multiple civilians were reportedly wounded
https://x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1927379708125012263?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1927379708125012263%7Ctwgr%5E7a182adeb5d25d381094669c85083efa7135f747%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.middleeasteye.net%2Ftrending%2Fdehumanisation-design-us-israeli-gaza-aid-operation-descends-chaos

Posted by: teri | May 28 2025 13:44 utc | 235

Journalist Youssef Fares
“The American Gaza Relief Foundation (GHF) announces the suspension of work and aid distribution due to what it described as “rioting” and the failure to ensure the safety of workers.”

Posted by: Ornot | May 28 2025 14:10 utc | 236

Has it occurred to anyone that many commenters who profess to be devout Muslims or lovers of oblasts may actually be Jewish Israelis/Zionists/Supremacists themselves, here simply to further muddy the waters…?

Posted by: Dan Kelly | May 28 2025 14:12 utc | 237

Millions of Arabs started chanting death to Jews long before a few crazy Jews recently started chanting death to Arabs. Both are disgusting, but the Arabs are worse because it is more widespread amongst them.

Posted by: Fyi | May 28 2025 14:45 utc | 238

All Under Heaven. I don’t know if you saw this. https://www.telesurenglish.net/ireland-moves-to-ban-israeli-products-from-occupied-palestinian-territories-a-bold-stand-against-imperialism/. A brave step in the right direction.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | May 28 2025 14:53 utc | 239

@237 Dan Kelly
People question when they feel to, but tend to dwell on content rather than character. That said, commenters have some sense of what others are about, and generally keep to what they are more sure of.
Apart from the thread theme being strictly of that which is in defense of Palestinians and Palestine, most also respect ‘the stage’, or the place available ‘on stage’, and notice those who don’t.
The site being not here to convert or convince, but to share and discuss, with whatever honesty and perspective is available.
imho
In simple terms, we’re not worth trying to bother or take advantage of.

Posted by: Ornot | May 28 2025 15:02 utc | 240

Dan Kelly 237
One thing’s for sure, anybody who thinks Trump or Western participants in this Genocide are part of the solution, or even trying to solve it , haven’t understood why it has taken 19 months for them to find their conscience.
People if conscience and lovers of Nazi-Genocided oblasts find it hard to understand why the West constantly plays with fire, resurrecting Nazism in Ukraine and police the Muslim Ummah in Palestine, Lebanon and Syria.
Poke your Jewish nose in here and you’ll find your Jewish nose sticking out the side of your face.

Posted by: Giyane | May 28 2025 15:39 utc | 241

241 correction
poke the Ummah, not police..

Posted by: Giyane | May 28 2025 15:42 utc | 242

Posted by: All Under Heaven | May 28 2025 1:00 utc | 214

A vast majority of the MoA commentariat are situated in the West or in the heart of capitalism itself, America, and are therefore incapable of mounting any serious resistance against imperialism because they materially benefit from imperialism. They will work tirelessly to divert attention and shift the responsibility for the ills of imperialism like the Gazan genocide to other countries, deliberately choosing to attack only targets which are at the forefront of fighting to free themselves and others from the grip that the US Empire has over the world.

My first reaction to this particular paragraph is, the vast majority of MoA commenters, or MoA comments? Not sure if the frequency and abusiveness of a certain segment of the commentariat gives a false impression.
For the rest, I am simply not convinced that the US is a society composed solely of middle-class and up, with no poverty, no working class, no lumpen, no servants of the ruling class (whether managers for coupon clippers, security guards or generals.) For that matter, I am not even convinced that the US is a country ruled by the majority (not that majority rule is even agreed by Americans to be a requirement for so-calle democracy!) With no power, comes no responsibility, as the man said. Further, I am not convinced there are no millionaires or billionaires in Mexico City or Seoul or Singapore or Taipei but worse, I am inclined to think that such hypothetical creatures might receive tender regards from the American imperialists who fancied them as junior partners. Somehow I’ve convinced myself that sufficiently wealthy foreigners are more likely to affect US policy than any number of US…well, I almost wrote workers but I suppose the preferred technical term would be parasite, who clip the coupons of their stock in the empire, like holders of stock in the East India Company way back when.

The West hungers for the charred flesh of the Russians and the Chinese. “Why won’t Russia and China serve themselves up for slaughter? Why don’t they deliberately kill their own economies (productive capacity) and spread themselves thin by engaging with every proxy conflict we stir up?” the West asks, lamenting Russia and China for not the entrapping themselves.

I must have missed the memo that came with my imperialist dividend, that this was American ruling class policy decided on at the last stockholders’ meeting? But the opposite policy of demanding Russia and China directly confront US imperialism would seem to be, balance long-term strategic goals vs. short-term tactical necessities in light of the real balance of forces? But if that was the case, then expecting American anti-imperialists to directly attack their own government seems to forget, as hard as it is to fight the American empire at the end of a thousand mile logistic chain, fighting it on its own home ground must be…easier? But I forget, the assumption is that there is no ruling class in America, just the rule of the common people, therefore all policies of the government are the will of the people. (And obviously any sudden changes are simply whims of rabble, rather than breakdowns in the old machinery of control?) If the only reason to listen to Americans is if they are running things, even if you call that making their own revolution, it’s not clear to me how this is distinguishable from only listening to people who matter. And people without power don’t even really count as people in this scheme of values?
I know very well it is very tempting to blame bad things on everybody (which is to say nobody.) Even if you think blaming Americans is specific enough, because Americans objectively are the enemy, then one can hardly expect anything but our universal support of our government against you. And if the only cure for this disease of being American is being dead, then you can hardly object if we don’t want to kill our families.
Why the moral appeal? Morals in my view are rules for living together. But if we objectively can’t live together, then morals are out the window, there is only survival, the lawlessness of the jungle and war.
Personally, I reject the premises that there are no ruling classes in America, there is only a universal middle class saved from poverty, exploitation and oppression by the blood and sweat of our slaves abroad. But I suppose you think that’s just my wishful thinking.

Posted by: steven t johnson | May 28 2025 16:25 utc | 243

sreven t johnson 243
“Why the moral appeal? Morals in my view are rules for living together. But if we objectively can’t live together, then morals are out the window, there is only survival, the lawlessness of the jungle and war.”
It is immoral to genocide your neighbours who were there long before you. Whether the US planned Israel’s destruction or God, the Israel that is committing Genocide will be destroyed by the Ummah that it is attacking now.
We don’t yet know by whom. Suffice to say it will be by a country that is , so far, defiant of USUK Imperialism , in combination with a power that sees itself as in the crosshairs of the Doberman USUK sights.
It’s incredibly naive to think that this world operates by might, not morality.
But you’re entitled to your view because it is your President you elected that has that shallow understanding of life
Donald Duck pfft!

Posted by: Giyane | May 28 2025 17:20 utc | 244

Posted by: Giyane | May 28 2025 17:20 utc | 244 I denied that “we” are objectively unable to live together, that instead it is the American ruling class that wants to conquer. So I’m not sure how this is relevant. Also, I think that objectively given the technological/economic nature of the modern world, we are all neighbors. But I don’t see how the date on the deed, so to speak, matters much. (Especially since not all people have formal title to an accepted nation.) Also I have been informed that everybody at MoA knows I am a professional Democrat troll with TDS. Didn’t you get the memo?
For the record, I believe most people(s) want to live. As morals are about living together, morals are therefore normative, valued precisely as a way to fulfill their own ends, roughly speaking. [The fact that the rules for living together as the way we live changes causes much discussion. Yes, every claim that morals should compel behavior because—essentially—God said so, fails because notions of God not only ignore realities of change but cannot even agree on how to resolve disputes, much less agree on the moral rules.]

Posted by: steven t johnson | May 28 2025 17:40 utc | 245

@steven t johnson

With no power, comes no responsibility […] I know very well it is very tempting to blame bad things on everybody (which is to say nobody.)

+1 for stevie from me.

notions of God not only ignore realities of change but cannot even agree on how to resolve disputes, much less agree on the moral rules.

Over on the OT I’ve tried to discuss a notion of God which does exactly that. It works by recognizing I and Thou are all His, while also being different (as being many is our/His nature); down here stricken/mixed into evil, which forces us to make compromises as best as we can. Mani, whose concept that is, taught peace, veganism and contemplation of beauty as spiritual practice, with the aim of resolving the suffering.

Posted by: persiflo | May 28 2025 18:37 utc | 246

Europe seems to get ready to recognize a Palestinian state in June, thus the sudden ‘harsh’ comments towards Is
The ghouls are just buying time

Posted by: Tom | May 28 2025 19:13 utc | 247

Are really 6,000 UNRWA trucks waiting outside ?
Posted by: Exile | May 28 2025 3:14 utc | 223
No. There are roughly 9000 trucks of food and medical aid waiting outside Gaza, not all from UNWRA, that the Israelis are refusing entry.
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Per the UK at the UN security council debate today:
[…] United Kingdom: “The UN warned of the risks from the Israeli government’s plan for aid delivery. In Rafah yesterday, we saw this warning become a reality. The Gaza Humanitarian Foundation lost control of its distribution centre with multiple casualties reported and great distress for those desperately seeking aid. In contrast, the UN has a clear plan to deliver life-saving aid at scale. It contains robust mitigations against aid diversion. Brave humanitarians stand ready to do their jobs. Nine thousand trucks wait at the border.”
https://aje.io/ougc34?update=3738193
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Per the UN, from 5 days ago:
[…] Secretary-General António Guterres [UN] said 400 trucks had been cleared to enter Gaza this week, but supplies from just 115 had been collected. He said nothing had “reached the besieged north” so far.
While some flour, baby food and medical supplies had made it into Gaza, and some bakeries in the south had begun operating again, Guterres said that amounted to a “teaspoon of aid when a flood of assistance is required”.
“The supplies – 160,000 pallets, enough to fill nearly 9,000 trucks – are waiting,” he added.
Rida, a midwife with charity Project HOPE in Deir al-Balah, said women come to her clinic suffering from fainting, having sought medical help without eating breakfast.
Many of them eat only one meal a day and subsist on high energy biscuits given by the charity, she said. […]
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2ekv9ez43o
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Posted by: teri | May 28 2025 19:31 utc | 248

see the photos of this young girl, and a short video of her, at the two links
https://x.com/danpjsheehan/status/1927405269912318091
Dan Sheehan @danpjsheehan
If an 11-year-old Israeli influencer—a girl who delivered food and toys to displaced children—had been killed, the Empire State Building would be lit up for her. Her face would be on the homepage of every US news outlet. Her name would be on the tongue of every US politician.
https://x.com/ajplus/status/1927098000339337527
AJ+ @ajplus
11-year-old Yaqeen Hammad was one of Gaza’s youngest influencers. She spent her days in Gaza making desserts, delivering food and bringing joy to other children who had lost everything.
On May 23, she was killed in an airstrike after Israel shelled her neighborhood in Deir el-Balah.
She’s one of thousands of Palestinian children killed since the war on Gaza began – and one of dozens killed in the last 2 days.

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 28 2025 20:44 utc | 249

see the photo at the third link
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1924237409790689515
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
The Palestinians are fighting against the most evil form of western imperialism.
Israel – which exists and thrives only because of USA/France/Germany/Italy/Arab normalizers’ support – is exposing the real motto of the west:
“You bow to us, or we will bomb even the kids.”
https://x.com/Jonathan_K_Cook/status/1925530676100546877
Jonathan Cook @Jonathan_K_Cook
Netanyahu and his foreign minister, Gideon Saar, suggest criticism by western leaders of policies currently starving 14,000 babies to death in Gaza is behind the fatal shootings of two Israeli embassy staff in Washington.
It’s “antisemitic” to talk about those babies, it seems.
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/18698
Middle East Spectator – MES
— 🇮🇱/🇵🇸 NEW: Israeli tank commander hangs a beheaded toy of a Palestinian child on the barrel of his tank and shares the photo on social media.

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 28 2025 21:02 utc | 250

The stj troll has managed to argue that because Muslims believe in God and His commandments, the non-believers are justified in exterminating them.
A fine contribution to the MoA Palestine thread. It explains everything. Have a nice day.

Posted by: Giyane | May 28 2025 21:28 utc | 251

…I think that objectively given the technological/economic nature of the modern world, we are all neighbors.

I wrote this @245.
Posted by: Giyane | May 28 2025 21:28 utc | 251 This person manages to pervert this into

because Muslims believe in God and His commandments, the non-believers are justified in exterminating them.

The only thing I can conclude is that believers do not consider non-believers their neighbors, therefore they may be slandered at will as planning to murder them. The next step is concluding that pro-active self-defense is justified. There may be some sort of neurotic projection, where the commenter’s secret desires are imagined to be in my comment?
Since the implicit claim is that God, Allah, commands the faithful to do impose his law and that God, Allah, will defend them in this obedience (after suitable testing of their fidelity?) I can only advise this commenter to pray and wait. Posting here is not needed.

Posted by: steven t johnson | May 28 2025 21:44 utc | 252

UK Court Rules Police Raid on Journalist Asa Winstanley ‘Patently Unlawful’: Statement From Bindmans LLP
https://x.com/AsaWinstanley/status/1927766236571595017
“Journalist Asa Winstanley wins Old Bailey ruling against unlawful police raid.”
Congrats to AW and his legal team for this win against the pro-genocide Starmer police state! Free Palestine! Free speech!

Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 28 2025 21:52 utc | 253

see the 17-second video at the first link
https://x.com/MosabAbuToha/status/1927422957162201110
Mosab Abu Toha @MosabAbuToha
Concentration Camp! Humiliating people starved for 86 days.
Shame on this world.
https://x.com/monothiest24/status/1927573961996439900
Maryam @monothiest24
There’ll be books and books written on the savagery of Western “civilisation” being outed by the first livestreamed genocide and how it empowered and enabled Zionism to carry out exactly these atrocities in Gaza.
This is all courtesy of Biden, Trump, Starmer, Albanese & Co.
They’re not simply silent observers but active participants in the war-crimes. May they burn in hell.
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1927637624547574213
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
Israel destroy the only and last civilian aircraft belonging to Yemen civilian airlines in Sanaa, assuring daily two flights (pilgrims) to Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, and a flight to Jordan for those in need of medical treatment.
When the “strongest and most brutal army in the ME” travels with its US jets 2000 km to hit one single civilian plane (in Yemen), it shows how weak is Benjamin Netanyahu, with an ICC arrest arrest for his war crimes, and how pathetic and laughable is the Israeli army’s bank of objectives.

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 28 2025 22:01 utc | 254

Palestinians are being slaughtered because of Trump and Netanyahu’s total lack of morality and the world’s fear of confronting the hugely erratic and vengeful Trump.

Posted by: D J G | May 28 2025 22:22 utc | 255

“Journalist Asa Winstanley wins Old Bailey ruling against unlawful police raid.”
Congrats to AW and his legal team for this win against the pro-genocide Starmer police state! Free Palestine! Free speech!
Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 28 2025 21:52 utc | 253

While I agree this is a good thing, it follows a terrible thing.
A win? No.
Not unless those responsible for the violation are held accountable. Which will NEVER happen IMO. Eager to be wrong.

Posted by: saner | May 28 2025 22:27 utc | 256

251 Giyane. “because Muslims believe in God and His commandments, the non-believers (who post here believe they) are justified in exterminating them.”
Is Giyane a jihadists whose deep desire is to turn this MOA thread into a holy war?

Posted by: Lavieja | May 28 2025 22:54 utc | 257

sreve t johnson
It seems a bit irrational to me that you think that norms of behaviour imposed by God are designed for human survival. He could switch the whole Universe off if He liked. The purpose of prescribed norms of behaviour is to test compliance. Israel is deeply non- compliant at the moment , as is the UK and the US.
I’m sorry you feel that it is offensive to have to comply with God’s Commands.
That is the US, UK , German , Hungarian and Israeli governments’s position, defying God’s commands and inviting the world to do something to stop it.
The world doesn’t make the rules, God does. The martyrs go to paradise, amd the persecutors go to Hell. None of my business. What is my business is to warn the persecutors that they are creating Eternity in the fire of Hell for themselves.
The fakes in the Western Elites can deceive us, but they can’t deceive God.
Trump can smile sweetly and say nowt to do with me, but God knows somebody signed for all those bombs to go to Israel. Maybe that part of the US government is separate and secret.
As to Muslims imposing God’s Will on the perpetrators, if He wants , that will happen. But there is no avoiding Hell for murderers , torturers , rapists, and starvers, by aimlessly blagging against God’s commandments on a blog.
Keep blagging and find out.

Posted by: Giyane | May 28 2025 23:15 utc | 258

Leivija @ 257. The burning of children is by design. The tradition of Abraham continues.
Child sacrifice was a part of most of the religious and ritual systems in the ancient world. It seems to have been seen as an act of ultimate sacrifice to deities and higher powers and was performed in times of great difficulty. In the Hebrew Bible it is often associated with the worship of the non-Israelite God Molech, who was worshiped through an act of passing one’s “seed through the fire” (Leviticus 18:21). Some scholars have connected this ritual to the Tophet, a place of ritual burning condemned by the Israelite prophets (see Isaiah 30:33; Jeremiah 7:31). Second Kings 23:10 connects the rituals of the Tophet with the worship of Molech. Archaeologists have found apparent examples of similar sacrifices in Phoenician contexts, where they are called molk offerings.
Second Kings 3 describes the revolt of the Moabite king Mesha against the kingdom of Israel, which had conquered Moab previously. The battle went poorly for the Moabites, which caused their king to offer his son as a burnt offering. As described in 2 Kings 3:27, this was effective in driving off the Israelite combatants, although the author of Kings did not explain why it was effective.
Because of the reach these ritual practices had, they would have been familiar to the ancient Israelites, even as prophets reminded them that these rituals were not commanded by Jehovah (see Jeremiah 7:31). One of the strongest places where these ritual practices are visible is in the story of Jehovah’s commanding Abraham to sacrifice his son Isaac. Because of the Near Eastern background of child sacrifice, this commandment would have felt both strange and familiar. According to the book of Abraham, Abraham himself had been the target of an attempted sacrifice by his father (Abraham 1:5–7) https://biblecentral.info/library/chapter/child-sacrifice-in-the-old-testament/

Posted by: Willow | May 28 2025 23:18 utc | 259

Lavieja 257
Lol. Do you realise that HTS Jihadists just killed 4000 Shi’a and Alawite Men Wonen and children and Trump praised him and Erdogan for being strong men.
That is Trump the US President.
What does that tell us about what Trump thinks about himself sending thousands of bombs to Israel? He clearly thinks that Israel killing Muslims is strong and righteous.
So you’re talking about the wrong bloke.

Posted by: Giyane | May 28 2025 23:25 utc | 260

The world doesn’t make the rules, God does.
Posted by: Giyane | May 28 2025 23:15 utc | 258

Your belief and you are entitled to it.
But, have you considered, ever, that you could be mistaken? That there may be no ‘god’, as you presume?
I don’t ask to belittle or deny, only to know if you have questioned or simply accepted.
TIA

Posted by: saner | May 28 2025 23:33 utc | 261

Posted by: Lavieja | May 28 2025 22:54 utc | 257 On a personal note, I have to repeat, that is not what I wrote. And I firmly believe there is no honest and competent reading of what I wrote that can transform what I wrote into this. To be clear, I don’t recall you as ever saying anything remotely like that either. And I have an impression you are not pro-Trump either. Thus I see the response @260 to your comment as also deceitful.
Posted by: Giyane | May 28 2025 23:15 utc | 258

But there is no avoiding Hell for murderers , torturers , rapists, and starvers, by aimlessly blagging against God’s commandments on a blog.
Keep blagging and find out.

At this point, it seems likely enough this is meant as a personal accusation, complete with the threat to send me to Hell. It is unclear whether this is an order from this commenter to God, Allah, or merely personal satisfaction. As the old joke has it, there must be a Hell, because it wouldn’t be Paradise, Heaven, without entertainment.
It occurs to me that all this is so bizarre it may be a name hijacking? Posting under another commenter’s handle strikes me as a genuine example of trolling. But I must admit I don’t believe most accusations of trolling are made in good faith, much less sensible.

Posted by: steven t johnson | May 29 2025 1:03 utc | 262

see the 19-second video and photo at the links
https://x.com/FranceskAlbs/status/1927617380257026469
Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur oPt @FranceskAlbs
Concentration camp 2025
Starving people forced to walk miles
under scorching heat.
Lined up like animals,
only a few are fed.
Some are arrested,
Some are shot at.
New Israel US joint venture.
The worst humanity is capable of from the bastions of Power.
We.
Must.
Stop.
This.
https://x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1927372391644074036
Muhammad Shehada @muhammadshehad2
🚨Thousands of starved Gazans storm the dystopian Israeli-American aid complex in Rafah after being forced to stand in endless queues & bake in the sun in a fenced concentration camp while being subjected to biometric surveillance
US mercenaries & Israeli troops are opening fire…..
2\ Israel’s Kan reports the US mercenaries were likely the ones opening fire at the starved crowds, while reports from Gaza indicate Israeli troops also fired at the crowds
People were told to stand in queue all day while mercenaries pick & choose who gets aid & who starves
https://x.com/muhammadshehad2/status/1927374496282853586
Muhammad Shehada @muhammadshehad2
3\ Israel’s channel 12 highlights reports that an Israeli helicopter began firing at the starved crowed, while the American mercenaries ran away
Sources:
https://kan.org.il/content/kan-news/defense/912681/
https://mako.co.il/news-military/
4\ More footage of starved Gazans overrunning the Israeli-American “aid” concentration camp in Rafah after being crowded for hours under the baking sun in what can only be described as fenced animal cages.
5\ If this doesn’t scream CONCENTRATION CAMP, then what does?

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 29 2025 1:24 utc | 263

Canadian Doctors Returning From Gaza Hold A Press Conference in Ottawa
https://www.youtube.com/live/WC49cqtHYfY
“Mr Carney, stop arming apartheid. The time for empty words is over. Canada must act now…”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 29 2025 2:08 utc | 264

@260 Giyane
Some dislike Muslims, there is no question about that. There are also many other ‘sets’ that can be applied that are not ‘Muslim based’ though ….
Amalek, Arabs….
“A story by an Israeli soldier serving in Gaza, in which he says, “600 days of fighting. Grateful for the opportunity to kill and exterminate the ugliest creatures in nature.” ”
…is another. I can think of many more. It is ironic that most of those behind the atrocities also claim to be believers of some kind. So sort of erred or pretend believers…but we only have their word for what any believe. Those who don’t follow the commandments might be said simply to be non believers also. Not to kill is not to kill, Islam is sometimes understood to grant exception ?
“…because Muslims believe in God and His commandments, the non-believers think they are [able] to exterminate them.”
Might be closer to the truth, where “non-believers” is better meant as “false believers”.
Atheists are a different kind of people in my experience, depressingly materialist sometimes, but almost always with an equal sense of worth towards the next person, somehow.
So that is why La Vieja questions I think, because you emphasise the Muslim facet and turn that into a sole cause. Religion to the religious yes can be a sole cause, and people can also unite behind that sole cause, but it does not mean that those outside it find it as a sole cause/reason to attack.
Short of any better definition, religious denomination however is often also used as proxy to identity in ‘for or against’ terms.
Which would also be your believers and non-believers.
Hence the perspective of holy war of sorts.
However most people in almost all countries understand that killing another is wrong, no matter what religion, or lack of.
Which puts into question the ability to differentiate groups based on or via biblical claim to authenticity of a relatively common law or moral.
@La Vieja
Of course Giyane is entitled to frame the conflict in religious terms, whether we agree or not. I don’t mind as long as he doesn’t mind anyone pointing out any apparent inconsistency.
Jihad is also understood to mean a personal battle, and so in this case would mean the battle with self over feelings of vengeance or violence towards others. If viewing that way is correct, and many both here and around the world are badly affected by the occurences, then all I can say is to try to be understanding of that reality ?
AUH does similar by introducing the ‘imperial set’ , but it comes across as making a frustrated apology for the lack of action/disengagement of his prefered reference. I don’t find any logic in relying on US or western actions to judge those of others by, each should be taken in isolation as far as possible.
I don’t know…there is a lot of upset.

Posted by: Ornot | May 29 2025 2:36 utc | 265

see the 1:02 video at the first link
see the 2:44 video at the second link
https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1927743342642635183
Suppressed News. @SuppressedNws
Senegalese students expelled the Israeli ambassador from the campus of Cheikh Anta Diop University in Dakar, where he had come to attend a conference on international relations.
They chanted: “Murderer! Criminal! Free Palestine!”
https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1926648287911645694
☀️👀 @zei_squirrel
John Mearsheimer yesterday: “It’s not just Israeli leaders who support the genocide. You don’t see any protest among the Israeli public. It’s shocking. It’s sickening. You have to file all this under the Nazification of Israel. They are like the Germans under Hitler.”

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 29 2025 2:44 utc | 266

R2R: As Western ‘Leaders’ Fiddle – Gaza Burns
https://www.youtube.com/live/1fNykfmEF18
“…Despite these atrocities and [genocidal] declarations, the Canadian, British and French Governments have imposed no sanctions on Israel and its leaders and have taken no steps that can be fairly denoted as ‘concrete actions’.
They lie. And help Israel kill.

Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 29 2025 3:05 utc | 267

Escobar reports a high level security meeting in Moscow involving Ru, Ir, NK and…UAE. what exactly are the best (financial) allies of Isr and South Sudan doing there? Any explanation?

Posted by: Tom | May 29 2025 3:40 utc | 268

The Gospels are specific, that anybody who turns to God, Knock and the door will be opened. When somebody is aware that life doesn’t have to be like this, like this Zionist nihilism, like this Islamist nihilism, like this Capitalist or communist nihilism, and they cant get out the fly trap, that’s when you ask God .
He then unlocks the knots of your bondage that you can’t unlock yourself. Trust in God. Whoever trusts in God has secured the most reliable lanyard to peace.
I am just an orange buoy tied to a weighted lobsterpot. Pulling on my rope’s not going to get you anywhere.
Don’t even bother to try it.

Posted by: Giyane | May 29 2025 4:38 utc | 269

Netanyhu‘s Willing Executioners

Posted by: Exile | May 29 2025 4:43 utc | 270

MintPress News
@MintPressNews
Israel operates a system of “genocide tourism” close to Gaza
Israeli settlers and tourists have been gathering on hilltops near Gaza in what’s been dubbed the “Sderot cinema”, watching and cheering as airstrikes hit Palestinian areas—an act widely condemned as “genocide tourism
https://x.com/MintPressNews/status/1927808668403388517

Posted by: Menz | May 29 2025 7:02 utc | 271

Afshin Rattansi
@afshinrattansi
Miko Peled: Are we out of our minds? Condemning the resistance of the people who are being oppressed and killed? Subjected to genocide for 75 years! Are we out of our minds?
His grandfather signed Israel’s Declaration of Independence
https://x.com/afshinrattansi/status/1927790794984890477

Posted by: Menz | May 29 2025 7:03 utc | 272

Afshin Rattansi
@afshinrattansi
“Why are we threatening Iran🇮🇷, which hasn’t invaded anyone for 400 years…Why do we journalists write what governments tell us? Why don’t they question them?”
-The incomparable, late, great John Pilger on Going Underground in 2019, on the move towards war against Iran
https://x.com/afshinrattansi/status/1927777744114397643

Posted by: Menz | May 29 2025 7:04 utc | 273

Here is another reason we cannot expect much from Russia regarding the Gaza horror:
Putin welcomes Al-Alimi, the Chairman of the Saudi based Govt. of Yemen to the Kremlin. There is no mention of the Houthis in his welcome. He also informs us that about 1500 Yemenis are studying in Russia (presumably Al-Alimi sponsored students). Putin is only interested in Russia successfully holding an Arab Summit in Moscow in October. Russia’s policies only concern Russia. The next post in the RT Telegram channel is about Chile recalling its military attaches from Israel, probably as a prelude to a full diplomatic break. Will Russia do something similar? Fat chance!
RT Telegram Post

Posted by: gb_grave | May 29 2025 10:26 utc | 274

This post will help us understand Russia’s policies in West Asia (so called Middle East):
“Since the Saudi-led military coalition began its campaign against the Houthi movement in March 2015, Russia has cautiously approached Yemen with a policy of strategic non-alignment. This has involved engaging with all major Yemeni actors—Ansar Allah, Yemen’s UN-recognized government, and the Southern Transitional Council (STC)—and coordinating closely with Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates (UAE), Oman, and Iran on the situation in Yemen. President Vladimir Putin’s government sought to maintain positive relations with all the key players in Yemen and the surrounding region. “Playing all sides” is a standard Russian approach to intra-Arab conflicts, highlighted by Moscow’s similar approach in Libya, Palestine, and Sudan. ”
It is to be noted that Russia has not recognized the Ansar Allah Government.
The above quote is FROM
Gulfif.org

Posted by: gb_grave | May 29 2025 10:48 utc | 275

gb_grave 274
You’re in luck . All Under Heaven 214 has already prepared an answer to your comment. If you are in reality trying to oppose his 214 comment, it would be polite to preface your 274 comment with a reference to his 214 comment.
FOAD Troll. RIP PeterAU1 and before him on Craig Murray’s, Fedup .

Posted by: Giyane | May 29 2025 10:51 utc | 276

276
The West uses proxies in order to circumvent International Law. Goose Gander Equality. Neither Russia, nor China are going to attack the West directly. It’s competely fatuous trolling to suggest that Russia doesn’t oppose Israel’s genocide.
The reason for this constant moaning about Russian inaction is to suggest some sort of moral equivalent between Biden/Trump and the last two nobodies in charge of the UK who support and arm Isrsel to the max, and Russia’s not wanting to start a nuclear war.
Revenge will definitely come for this genocide inshallah, to its sponsors , suppliers, funders and idiotic obfuscaters of its evil.
Miko Peled today was a breath of fresh air. Especially what he said to the Oxford Union debate on Palestine
Why have we heard no mention of him before on MoA, I wonder. A Jew talking sense about Isrsel is worth a thousand Empire2 Tories and Witkofs crying crocodile tears.

Posted by: Giyane | May 29 2025 13:35 utc | 277

re: #277 – I have posted Miko Peled’s work here before. And will again.

Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 29 2025 14:30 utc | 278

Canada Starved Indigenous Children and is Now Failing To Prevent History From Repeating Itself in Gaza
https://x.com/LCPal_ca/status/1927474139595424053
“In 2022, Parliament unanimously acknowledged the Canadian state’s treatment of Indigenous peoples amounted to genocide. Despite the remarkable parallels to Israel’s treatment of Gaza, our government is failing in its obligation to prevent history from repeating itself in Palestine.”
Carney’s Canada ‘friendly fascism’ will achieve what Israel can only dream of…
https://www.aptnnews.ca/national-news/theyre-coming-for-the-resources-now-chief-in-manitoba-has-warning-for-first-nations/

Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 29 2025 14:38 utc | 279

Some say History never repeats, I say those who claim it doesn’t just don’t know enough history:
A timeline of events in Wolski Hospital during the Warsaw Uprising
I urge you all to read the entire article, but I will post fragments here:

Saturday, 12 August
Today at six o’clock in the morning, our colleague . . . [illegible name—original Editors’ note set off with Mrs Buraczewska and Dr Belke for Włochy, to see if our patients could be transported by rail from Włochy to Pruszków. It would make things much easier for us, because Włochy is about 2—3 km away from Jelonki, but Pruszków is about 10—12 km away, so taking them directly from here would be far more problematic. Unfortunately, three hours later they were back with the news that it can’t be done. We know that trainloads full of people the Germans are evicting from Warsaw79 are passing through Włochy all the time. Dr Steffen told Hanka that Dr Bądzińska80 left on one of these trains, while her parents are still in Pruszków, he’s keeping them there as patients of his.
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We have no news of the Infant Jesus Hospital,81 but Dr Steffen says that Prof. Czyżewicz82 has been killed. We are all down in the dumps with sadness, though the young ones are cracking jokes and making up little poems and songs, for instance on the Mongols.
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On Saturday a week ago, at this time (6.30 p.m.), our menfolk were led out and killed, while we were left cooped up in the hall on Moczydło, dirty, thirsty, and hungry. We should be glad we’re at liberty today, but all the time we’re thinking of those who died; I can feel it in every conversation and I know that they’re on our minds all the time.

Sunday, 13 August
Dr Krzywiec returned at 20.00 hours. She got the old people safely to Ołtarzew; on the road, a German patrol helped her get a cart and she took them in it. When she got back, she was in an excellent mood. Today after lunch, two of the Sisters of Charity paid a call on the Hospital. They were given a lift in a German car. I can observe a casual mood setting in among the Sisters of Charity. Some of them are doing as they please. At any rate, there are too many of them.

Tuesday, 22 August
I was back in MIlanówek around 4.30 with some of the things. I was tired and went to bed (it was very hot). Around 6 o’clock Wiwa arrived with Krysia O.101 I had been waiting for her for so long and so impatiently, and finally, after 34 months in Pawiak jail, she’s free. I’m deeply moved. The night’s long and we talk.

Thursday, 17 September
At 7.12, we are on the electric train for Malichy,95 and thence at 10.30 continue on foot via Reguły, Opocz [Opacz], Raków, Ursus, Gołąbki, and Chrzanów to Jelonki, a total distance of about 17 km. We get everything ready for the journey, allocating duties to the staff, drawing up a list of patients, etc. Unfortunately, we have trouble with getting horses, so we have to requisition them.
Mrs Łyżwańska arrives at 2.30, but it isn’t until 4.30 that we manage to acquire two carts. It’s a procession of people on foot and in the carts, a total of about a hundred persons. We are constantly being stopped (four times in fact) and required to produce our credentials. Mrs Łyżwańska with the permit is on the first cart. I am at the head of the marching column. We reach Raków at six and start putting the patients on the train. Right then, one of the patients dies . . .. I look for the village graveyard and at sunset we hold a funeral in a picturesque setting.

I note with surprise that the German soldiers were actually kinder to the Poles of Warsaw than the israelis are to the Gazans. I didn’t expect my truism that Nazis are better than Zionists to transmute into an actual truth …
While the same patterns of the Warsaw Uprising repeat in Gaza, they come nowhere near in degree of intensity and the inhumanity of the perpetrators.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 29 2025 14:48 utc | 280

Posted by: Giyane | May 29 2025 10:51 utc | 276
Posted by: Giyane | May 29 2025 13:35 utc | 277
First of all, All Under Heaven (214) has not answered my comment and so I did not think it relevant to refer to his comment. I was not opposing his comment. There are many nuances in opinions. Just because some Zionists are writing against Russia, does not mean every opinion expressed is a troll’s opinion. Your comments have not answered or commented upon the points I made. Calling me a troll and to FOAD, is not the way to respond! “It’s completely fatuous trolling to suggest that Russia doesn’t oppose Israel’s genocide.” – did I say that Russia doesn’t oppose Israel’s genocide? The point was it is futile to expect Russia to do anything about it. How this opinion implies suggesting a moral equivalent with Biden / Trump beats me.
The larger point I am trying to make is as follows: On Ukraine, we are all with Russia as it is responding to provocations from the West. But Russia’s responses elsewhere cannot be supported. Russia is not the USSR of old. I am merely pointing this out. We need to lower our expectations from Russia in helping solving the World’s problems. The way I see it, Russia does not feel strong enough to take stands where it is not directly involved. Probably the Ukraine war has made it more inward looking. There is a difference between the Russia of 2015, when it reached out to help Syria, to today, when it was not willing / not able to put in more resources to support Syria. Today, when it is welcoming Al-alimi to the Kremlin, to (probably) curry favor with Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States.
Let us take down the glorification of Putin’s Russia a little bit, members of the Bar.

Posted by: gb_grave | May 29 2025 14:49 utc | 281

Unfuckingbelievable. US “security forces” from the disgusting new food aid program threw stun grenades at Palestinians in line for food aid.
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/us-security-assault-starving-palestinians-at-ghf-aid-distrib
Video at link shows the Palestinians were behind a chain link fence. There was no sign of violence or trying to “storm the gate.”. They were just standing around talking to each other. And suddenly running as the grenades blew up dust among them.
https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/us-security-assault-starving-palestinians-at-ghf-aid-distrib

Posted by: Mary | May 29 2025 14:53 utc | 282

Note – the IDF strategy of scorched earth and clearing away rubble might eventually be successful, since Al-Qassem relies on using rubble for cover when popping out of underground fortress. TBD
Your thoughts ?
Posted by: Exile | May 26 2025 15:27 utc | 132
To clear away the rubble their military operation will have to change significantly to become a civil engineering operation. These two aspects are at odds with the IDFs doctrine:
– It will interfere with their air-strike programme (bombing the rubble), thereby giving AQB a break.
– They’ll have to bring in thousands of earth moving equipment pieces, creating a target rich environment.
Based on the initial rash of reports of Hamas detonating IEDs to collapse ruins on IDF it looks like this will just project higher.
It’s like the “flooding of tunnels” nonsense that never happened. Now:
– The tunnels are still there. No indication the network has been destroyed.
– The rubble has completely obscured the tunnel routes.
– To launch an effort to root out the tunnels the IDF must first embark on a collossal multi-year civil engineering project … but with what resources?
Basically, this is what Hamas has been waiting for all along.
This is exactly the phase of resistance warfare where the greatest strength of guerrilla warfare becomes clear.
The IDF will never succeed in clearing the rubble. They’ll be chasing ghosts in the ruins for years to come.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 29 2025 15:01 utc | 283

Posted by: Mary | May 29 2025 14:53 utc | 282
No surprise really. The American soldier is the modern equivalent of the Nazi Stormtrooper – in more ways than one.
(Andrei Martyanov would agree here)

Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 29 2025 15:06 utc | 284

gb_grave 281
Your Russophobia is trying to prove that Russia is weak, a major USUKIS talking point. I explained plainly that this is not the case because you fight like with like. USUKIS is playing dirty openly now, and half the world actually believes that HTS is not USUKIS’ proxy but some kind of manifestation of Islamic Resistance.
It isn’t weakness on Russia’s part or China’s part to use Maskarova, much though your indoctrinated McCarthy imagination wishes it were. It is teaching USUKIS a painful lesson that two sides can play dirty. USUKIS started it and is the first to whinge when Russia kicks USUKIS out of Ukraine.
There is a TDS home for mindsets like yours. It’s called MAGA. If your stupid ideas didn’t work first time, try MAGA by repeating all the mistakes you made before. Manipulation Aggression Genocide Assassination.
Rinse. Repeat . There is no cure. Sigh.

Posted by: Giyane | May 29 2025 16:47 utc | 285

The Gospels are specific, that anybody who turns to God, Knock and the door will be opened. When somebody is aware that life doesn’t have to be like this, like this Zionist nihilism, like this Islamist nihilism, like this Capitalist or communist nihilism, and they cant get out the fly trap, that’s when you ask God .
He then unlocks the knots of your bondage that you can’t unlock yourself. Trust in God. Whoever trusts in God has secured the most reliable lanyard to peace.
I am just an orange buoy tied to a weighted lobsterpot. Pulling on my rope’s not going to get you anywhere.
Don’t even bother to try it.
Posted by: Giyane | May 29 2025 4:38 utc | 269

Posted by: saner | May 29 2025 16:57 utc | 286

saner 286
no

Posted by: Giyane | May 29 2025 17:05 utc | 287

286 – half the world actually believes that HTS is not USUKIS’ proxy but some kind of manifestation of Islamic Resistance.
If that’s the case, there’s an awful lot of incredible fools out there.

Posted by: Waldorf | May 29 2025 17:07 utc | 288

Giyane 287
no? No what? (I’ll guess as you seem unwilling to expound)
No, that was not a response to 261?
No, you don’t believe?
No, you don’t have an actual response?
No, you can’t articulate meaningfully?
No, you have nothing to say? (doubtful)
No, you don’t understand why you believe?
No, you are ignorant of that which you claim deep knowledge of?
No, you don’t even understand the inquiry?
Funny that you are so verbose and sanctimonious with others. I guess being questioned is your Kryptonite.

Posted by: saner | May 29 2025 17:20 utc | 289

Waldorf 288
Anger eats intelligence.
This is how the Khazar Jews operate.
They do things that are so unspeakably evil that you react strongly emotionally. While you are getting exhausted by suppressing your anger , they do another outrageous crime,and another and another. Until you are quivering jelly of rage and fear, unable to work out how to respond intelligently.
I was married to one of them for 15 years. Everything that happened is your fault. The Chinese kicked them out. The Russians kicked them out. But the Zombie US embraced their lies hook line and sinker and put the ZioNazi Neocons in charge of their religion and their foreign policy.
When the dumbo yanks shit them out we enter the Next Ice Age, like a Nuclear Winter but a thousand times worse because everything will be covered in brown slimy methane of Khazaoerrhea.

Posted by: Giyane | May 29 2025 17:36 utc | 290

saner 289
no, it wasn’t a reply to anything of yours. I don’t read your comments .
You seem unable to read mine without difficulty in understanding them
Chill out, dear.

Posted by: Giyane | May 29 2025 17:40 utc | 291

no, it wasn’t a reply to anything of yours. I don’t read your comments .
Posted by: Giyane | May 29 2025 17:40 utc | 291
Oh my. The lack of awareness is epic. You just proved you do read my comments.
Those who lie (to themselves) are beyond reason. BTW, isn’t lying some kind of sin? Good luck with that.

Posted by: saner | May 29 2025 17:55 utc | 292

Posted by: Giyane | May 29 2025 17:40 utc | 291
Oh, just out of curiosity, if not me, who were you responding to with your 269?

Posted by: saner | May 29 2025 18:47 utc | 293

saner 293
If I am replying to somebody, I cite name and number. I wasn’t replying to you.
I am.not here because I am interested in politics. I am.here to try to understand how the Jews, and I don’t mean Zionists, continuously promote falsehood.
The Jews created the false religion of the Trinity in Rome, the false sect of the Shi’a in Islam. They created the African Slave Trade and justified it with false theology. They have made the Headchopping Jihadists, and hundreds of sects and schism in India, including creating Sikhism. In Ukraine Soros created NeoNazism, and CryptoJews BloJo Haram and David Cannibal Doctrine endorsed it.
The Jews have created Evanjellybrains Christianity in the US and harnessed the Military power of the US for this extreme sect of Genociding weirdos in Tel Aviv.
Since 2004 I have been calling out Judaism on Craig Murray’s blog but he didn’t like theological discussion.
Nobody in the political world has understood the way the Jews use theology for politics, until now. Now the scales have been removed, they don’t know what to do.
It’s easy. The only defence against Jewish lies is in the Qur’an which teaches trust in God Alone. There is only one way to defeat the Jews, the truth of the Islam. ALAWISM is a sect outside Islam that worships Muslim ‘Ali, which the Jews created. HTS is sect outside Islam which the Jews created.
Politics is the creation of problems that previously did not exist, in order to justify political actions , like invasion, that would not exist otherwise.
My interest is not in the politics, which is about greed, but in the theological lies that the Jews spread in order to create conflict. You won’t be able to dislodge me from my quest for knowledge which I have pursued for 60 of my 70 years.
My lobster pot is for catching Jewish Lies . I catch 2 or 3 every day.
MoA is a particularly rich hunting ground. Thanks to our generous host b.
without whom catching Jewish crap would go back to being hard.

Posted by: Giyane | May 29 2025 20:01 utc | 294

If I am replying to somebody, I cite name and number. I wasn’t replying to you.
—-
So you were simply bloviating? No intended recipient? Sure…… lie to yourself, but I doubt anyone else is accepting your BS.
And, just a reminder, you clearly DID read my posts. Your claim of “I don’t read your comments”, clearly shown to be a lie. You are a liar. Again.
End result? NOTHING you say can be taken as truth, because you lie. And again, doesn’t that constitute a sin on your part?
I pity your seeming total lack of self awareness and honour.

Posted by: saner | May 29 2025 20:17 utc | 295

saner 295
You are another lobster for my pot.
Have a smile.

Posted by: Giyane | May 29 2025 21:33 utc | 296

Posted by: Giyane | May 29 2025 20:01 utc | 294
“My lobster pot is for catching Jewish Lies .”
Posted by: Giyane | May 29 2025 21:33 utc | 296
“You are another lobster for my pot.”
LOL. So your deranged mind now equates anyone who point out your stupidity and lies with being Jewish?
Or is it just that you are trying to say I am telling Jewish lies?
I can’t really tell as your communication skills are wanting, to say the least.
But it still changes nothing regarding the fact that you have shown quite clearly that YOU have no problem at all lying and will shamelessly ignore the fact you have done so, on this very page.
You lie. Your motivations are irrelevant. You are still a liar.

Posted by: saner | May 29 2025 21:51 utc | 297