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May 25, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-115
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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HTS Hayat Tahrir al-Sham leader was Abu Mohammed al-Golani. Posted by: Melaleuca | May 25 2025 13:38 utc | 1 Horrifying… Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 25 2025 13:56 utc | 2 Horrifying (corrected from above) Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 25 2025 14:01 utc | 3 Meleuca 1 Posted by: Giyane | May 25 2025 14:14 utc | 4 Toronto Passes Zionist Bylaw Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 25 2025 15:23 utc | 5 It hasn’t occurred to.me before that the reason why Israel kills professional people apart from sadism , is that Israel wants to control all medication, teaching, religion, civil administration. Dr Mengeles etc. Posted by: Giyane | May 25 2025 15:42 utc | 6
Posted by: Apollyon | May 25 2025 16:02 utc | 7 Bubble Zone Protest Bans Threaten Palestine Solidarity – And Public Dissent Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 25 2025 16:03 utc | 8 Apollyon 7 Posted by: Giyane | May 25 2025 16:07 utc | 9 We must do much more now. Stop talking – boycott Israel. Posted by: Apollyon | May 25 2025 16:29 utc | 10 Toronto – Also The Most Banderist Community in the World Posted by: Exile | May 25 2025 16:30 utc | 11 I recommend chalk spray; it’s non-permanent and non-toxic. Posted by: persiflo | May 25 2025 16:34 utc | 12 I understand now what Trump LAa means by Freedom Zone. He wants to rebuild Caesarea, the Roman port connecting Roman polytheism to Asian polytheism on Gaza, an industrial zone , not Hotels. Posted by: Giyane | May 25 2025 16:46 utc | 13 ” Russian Maskarova knows what is doing by not interfering when its enemies are making mistakes. BRICS here we come and inshallah a comlete suite of BRICSUN, BRICSCJ , BRICSCC and currency. Posted by: The painter | May 25 2025 17:01 utc | 14 Bit graphic but just one example of what has been happening everyday in Gaza. Posted by: Thurl | May 25 2025 17:08 utc | 15 Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 25 2025 15:23 utc | 5 Posted by: canuck | May 25 2025 17:11 utc | 16 Posted by: Giyane | May 25 2025 15:42 utc | 6 Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 25 2025 17:11 utc | 17 Gaza tribunal to probe Israeli genocide, war crimes to open in Sarajevo Posted by: JB | May 25 2025 17:32 utc | 18 This makes sense in light of the inexplicably timed and bizarrely executed Oct 7 operation. The results speak for themselves. Posted by: The painter | May 25 2025 17:34 utc | 19 WATCH… Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 25 2025 17:42 utc | 20 ” “MASSIVE turnout for the Walk With Israel in Toronto.” Posted by: The painter | May 25 2025 17:45 utc | 21 see the photo at the first link Posted by: michaelj72 | May 25 2025 17:46 utc | 22 Posted by: The painter | May 25 2025 17:34 utc | 19 Posted by: JB | May 25 2025 17:57 utc | 23 Elias Rodriguez, the killer of 2 Jews in Washington, DC was from Chicago. Does that mean that Israel now has carte blanche to kill all Chicagoans? Chicagoans with Hispanic surnames? Or just babies and their mothers who live in Chicago? Posted by: JohnH | May 25 2025 18:12 utc | 24 ” You’ve picked the wrong place and space to spread this utter nonsense. Posted by: The painter | May 25 2025 18:20 utc | 25 see the 39-second video at the first link Posted by: michaelj72 | May 25 2025 18:21 utc | 26 A lot of people on YT have been calling the Elias shooting a possible false flag. The video of his arrest sure.doesn’t look right, and the timing is very convenient. Anybody have any thoughts about this? Posted by: James C | May 25 2025 18:23 utc | 27 re #21 – more: Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 25 2025 18:30 utc | 29 The IDF has no filter or control, they are being directed by the Lavender AI programs to select targets for their airstrikes. Posted by: tobias cole | May 25 2025 18:31 utc | 30 What does Hamas hope to accomplish by its continued war and no release of hostages ? please don’t tell me to fight the good fight. Easy for you to say. Posted by: Newbie2 | May 25 2025 18:54 utc | 31 If one wants to a have a peek at Newbie2’s working place, here it is: https://nitter.poast.org/stairwayto3dom/status/1901132568373739624 Posted by: xor | May 25 2025 19:11 utc | 32 What does the Likud hope to accomplish by continuing its senseless squandering of Israeli lives ? Why doesn’t the Likud simply lay down its arms and release its 10,000 hostages ? Posted by: Exile | May 25 2025 19:16 utc | 33 ‘Zionist, Zionist, Nawaf Salam is a Zionist!’ (& vid) Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 25 2025 19:24 utc | 34 The painter 25 Posted by: Giyane | May 25 2025 19:47 utc | 35 ” Posted by: Giyane | May 25 2025 19:47 utc | 35 ” Posted by: The painter | May 25 2025 19:58 utc | 37 Netanyahu’s problems keep piling up: https://geopolitiq.substack.com/p/netanyahus-problems?r=25fc37 Netanyahu’s problems keep piling up: https://geopolitiq.substack.com/p/netanyahus-problems?r=25fc37 I wrote to this Nusairat fundraiser late last week, asking if they were still operating. Updated today! Situation dire, but still operating. Posted by: Mary | May 25 2025 20:07 utc | 40 What does Hamas hope to accomplish by its continued war and no release of hostages ? Posted by: Mary | May 25 2025 20:19 utc | 41
This is why we should not normalize the acceptance of ISIS as the good guys by Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the West. It is sickening to watch world leaders and the ICC boss shake hands with this monster. He can wear all the suits he wants but that will not change the fact that he butchered thousands of people. Posted by: Georgie | May 25 2025 20:34 utc | 42
This is why we should not normalize the acceptance of ISIS as the good guys by Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the West. It is sickening to watch world leaders and the ICC boss shake hands with this monster. He can wear all the suits he wants but that will not change the fact that he butchered thousands of people. Posted by: Georgie | May 25 2025 20:36 utc | 43
None of this is surprising. It is just more proof that the majority of Jews everywhere support the genocide in Palestine. Where are the huge numbers of Jews in France, Germany, UK, Austria, Netherlands, Australia protesting this genocide? The anti-genocide Jews are the minority. Most Jews cheer for the Israel colony. Even in the US where we have seen Jews protesting against the evil colony, the anti-crowd is in the minority. Posted by: Georgie | May 25 2025 20:46 utc | 44 @canuck – Good one. LOL I like dark humor. We need a break from the evil being discussed in these threads. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 25 2025 20:53 utc | 45 I read that ONE of the shooting victims was a Christian and the other is Jewish. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 25 2025 20:55 utc | 46 Another fundraiser updated today. Posted by: Mary | May 25 2025 21:04 utc | 47 I wanted to recommend to the MoA commentariat a ‘new’ book I’m about halfway through reading.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 25 2025 21:05 utc | 48 Note: Elias Rodriguez killed 2 Christians Posted by: malenkov | May 25 2025 21:13 utc | 49 A few further notes on the book I mentioned/excerpted:
*boldface emphasis is my own. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 25 2025 21:13 utc | 50 At least as correct to say that he killed two Zionists. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 25 2025 21:17 utc | 51 Oops. Sorry, b, and all – I thought I was posting the stuff about the book in the Open Thread. Feel free to delete. I have them on a word processor and can repost there. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 25 2025 21:18 utc | 52 Norman Finkelstein setting us all straight. The Israel colony is evil and its people approve of Netanyahu’s actions. Posted by: Georgie | May 25 2025 21:21 utc | 53 Posted by: Georgie | May 25 2025 21:21 utc | 53 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 25 2025 21:27 utc | 54 In reply to Richard Sander’s comment below the video, BBC staffers primary job is to whitewash Isreal’s War Crimes: Posted by: Menz | May 25 2025 21:33 utc | 55 The Cradle Posted by: Menz | May 25 2025 21:34 utc | 56 Hamza Yusuf Posted by: Menz | May 25 2025 21:35 utc | 57 I Support Military Intervention To Stop Palestinian Genocide Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 25 2025 21:36 utc | 58 💧Mary Kostakidis Posted by: Menz | May 25 2025 21:36 utc | 59 Arnaud Bertrand Posted by: Menz | May 25 2025 21:37 utc | 60 asad abukhalil أسعد أبو خليل Posted by: Menz | May 25 2025 21:41 utc | 61 @ Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 25 2025 21:27 utc | 54 Posted by: Georgie | May 25 2025 21:48 utc | 62 Does it work now? Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 25 2025 21:54 utc | 63 Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 25 2025 21:36 utc | 58 Posted by: Georgie | May 25 2025 21:54 utc | 64 Repeating the set of local Palestine links…. Posted by: Ornot | May 25 2025 22:05 utc | 65 Stop hiding behind words. Call them what they really are. Nazis ! Posted by: The painter | May 25 2025 22:12 utc | 66 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 25 2025 21:05 utc | 48 Posted by: canuck | May 25 2025 22:29 utc | 67 see the 25-second video at the first link Posted by: michaelj72 | May 25 2025 23:17 utc | 68 Wasrael’s attitude to Palestinians reminds me of something I read in a book written by a woman bitching about inequality between the sexes. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 25 2025 23:36 utc | 69 Le Monde is just discovering (with the help of Bellingcat…sic) that “some” journalists were targeted in Gaza. The u-turn from French media and the BBC is entirely directed from the Elysee, which also released a report on the supposed influencew of the Muslim Brothers in some education and sport structures. Posted by: Tom | May 25 2025 23:37 utc | 70 see the 16-second video at the second link Posted by: michaelj72 | May 25 2025 23:46 utc | 71 ” Zionism is a crime against humanity. Posted by: The painter | May 25 2025 23:48 utc | 72 @The painter | Sun, 25 May 2025 23:48:00 GMT | 72 Posted by: persiflo | May 26 2025 0:21 utc | 73 ” They are like Nazis in many disturbing ways, but it’s still a different ideology. I see no sense in conflating the two. Posted by: The painter | May 26 2025 0:51 utc | 74 “….The notice is styled in the format of Israeli military evacuation orders used in Gaza.” Posted by: michaelj72 | May 26 2025 1:02 utc | 75 Looks like the US ‘plan’ for humanitarian aid to get into Gaza is {predictably} falling apart before being started. I, for one, have no doubt that the whole thing was simply trotted out to buy time for more Israeli killings and further deaths by starvation. Posted by: teri | May 26 2025 1:07 utc | 76 @The painter | 74 Posted by: persiflo | May 26 2025 1:34 utc | 77 Nazis, Zionists… Posted by: Dan Kelly | May 26 2025 2:07 utc | 78 – Debunking “Ancient Israel” – Posted by: The painter | May 26 2025 2:17 utc | 79 “The Ukrainians are more like cosplayers in truly bad taste. Not even the German Neonazis respect them. Posted by: The painter | May 26 2025 2:21 utc | 80 ” The Jewish State of Israel is committing a genocide in the name of Jews the world over and it is supported by every major and minor Jewish organization everywhere. Posted by: The painter | May 26 2025 2:23 utc | 81 Norman Finkelstein made a point (roughly): October 7th gave Israelis permission to be who they really are. Posted by: Otto Penn | May 26 2025 2:44 utc | 82 glennzilla Posted by: michaelj72 | May 26 2025 3:30 utc | 83 The painter 81 Posted by: Giyane | May 26 2025 3:40 utc | 84 ” Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 25 2025 21:17 utc | 51 ” Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 26 2025 4:03 utc | 85 Posted by: canuck | May 25 2025 22:29 utc | 67 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 26 2025 4:07 utc | 86 The Jews have it so easy. Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 26 2025 4:10 utc | 87 Good point. And the male was Christian-Zionist while the female was Jewish-Zionist. Posted by: Exile | May 26 2025 5:10 utc | 88 Posted by: Mary | May 25 2025 20:19 utc | 41 Hamas lays down arms and releases hostages, Israel claims this will end war – so Hamas should call Israel’s bluff. If Israel pursues war against a peaceful gaza, then any country will have great difficulty supporting Israel, I say the rational move is to call Israel’s bluff. Posted by: Newbie2 | May 26 2025 5:49 utc | 89 see the 3:19 video at the first/second link (graphic) Posted by: michaelj72 | May 26 2025 6:09 utc | 90 Do You Condemn October 7? China Says “No”
The fact that China chose a legal scholar—who is a member of the International Law Commission—to argue their case, underscores the importance China places on the broader legal issue of whether the Hamas attack was justifiable under international law. Ma concludes that the attack was not only justifiable, but that the militants involved in the attack had an “inalienable right” to conduct operations that were aimed at ending the Israeli occupation. Here’s Ma:
Ma’s statement should not be construed as support for the injuring or killing of innocent civilians. It is, however, a powerful defense of the right of persecuted people to participate in armed struggle against their oppressors.
However, this resistance is subject to compliance with international laws of war.”
“Decontextualizing October 7”?
Naturally, Ma’s speech has largely been blacked out in the western media where anything that doesn’t jibe with the Israeli narrative (that October 7 was an act of terrorism) winds up “on the cutting room floor”. We are confident that if Ma’s powerful moral statement was more widely circulated, Israel’s support in the US would crumble. Posted by: Menz | May 26 2025 6:29 utc | 91 @ Menz | May 26 2025 6:29 utc | 91 Posted by: waynorinorway | May 26 2025 7:03 utc | 93 Former IDF hostage in Gaza says one of her biggest fears was Israeli strikes Posted by: Apollyon | May 26 2025 7:06 utc | 94 Israeli settlers escalate violence, forced displacement across occupied West Bank Posted by: Menz | May 26 2025 7:31 utc | 95 F*ckwit launched a tirade against Vladimir Putin after Russia attacked Kyiv with hundreds of drones and missiles in the largest single strike of the war, BUT, not a word ever against his mate continueing to starve and murder civilians, women, children and babies in The gaza. Posted by: Menz | May 26 2025 7:38 utc | 96 Former IDF Posted by: Exile | May 26 2025 8:17 utc | 97 Menz 96 Posted by: Giyane | May 26 2025 8:18 utc | 98 Posted by: Menz | May 26 2025 6:29 utc | 91 Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 26 2025 8:20 utc | 99 If Israel pursues war against a peaceful gaza, then any country will have great difficulty supporting Israel, I say the rational move is to call Israel’s bluff. Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 26 2025 8:24 utc | 100 |
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