Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
May 22, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-112

by Debs is Dead
lifted from a comment

Lately I've been avoiding reading about Palestine being genocided by zionists as I'm too old and too crook to get out & do anything about it and it seems words which ain't worth SFA are the only thing I can do now.

However today is too much. Lookit the silly fuss from every western fishwrap & googlebox about a pair of dead zionists on today, a day when Gaza health report the first official notice of five children dying of starvation, the zionist army shot at a bunch of western diplomats to chase them away from a spot where the zionists were indulging in the usual rape, torture and murder of Gaza civilians and that same army today announced the evacuation order for all people in Northern Gaza, in the region of more than 500,000 human beings being chased off their land – again.

In the light of that how can anyone see the dc shooting of a brace of zionist diplomats as anything other than a deliberate set-up by the entity's propaganda machine. Like I said up-thread the photo the zionists released of the two dead apologists for genocide just happened to be much more than a corporate portrait as it showed the pair arm-in-arm in a posed shot standing in front of the embassy logos; a seemingly ideal PR portrait of two photogenic young people, as if the picture takers knew they would need something sympathetic for zionism as for the past few days western fishwraps haven't been nice about zionists (they'll get over that now but), so this is a pic for the front page of every western fishwrap once these two are shot & killed.

The timing stinks far too much to be coincidental, just like the opportune appearance of the picture.

Even starmer had something 'anti-semitic' to say to media yesterday.

Hmm …

The Israel Embassy Shooter Manifesto – 900-word document cites Gaza as motive – Ken Klippenstein

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Both employees of the Embassy got degrees at American University after their IDF conscription was completed.
Does anyone know if they were subsequently deployed to Gaza or the Wesr Bank ?

Posted by: Exile | May 22 2025 19:03 utc | 101

But if the world lets Israel get away with this then madness and psychopathy become the governing “political” forces on the planet.
Posted by: Jane | May 22 2025 18:32 utc | 91
They have been letting Israel get away with pretty much everything for 50+ years.
Madness (obnoxious self righteousness) and psychopathy (self centered and total lack of empathy) have been hallmarks of “Western” style governments for centuries.
These are not flaws in the system, they are the system.
Posted by: saner | May 22 2025 18:58 utc | 10
saner you are 100% correct; Jane means well, but she is hopelessly naive and a bit hysterical.

Posted by: canuck | May 22 2025 19:06 utc | 102

Posted by: anonymous | May 22 2025 18:43 utc | 95
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So genocide denial and Nazi apologia?
Of course the part you leave out about the “starvation blockade” is the Imperial German paranoia & pretentiousness that ensured the many horrors WW1 even started to begin with.
Along with their backing of the degenerate inbred Hapsburg’s genocidal war with Serbia. Then add in all the crimes of the f*cking Young Turk butchers within in the Ottoman Empire etc.
Oh, and the fact is the Nazi scum *tried* to inflict their genocidal plans, they just got thir asses kicked in open war. By the intended victims.
You going to keep shitposting about how the poor denizen of Polish ruled Lvov suffered during Stalin’s Russian chauvinist holodomor?
Even though people from the epicenter of that famine the Donbass, are most pro-Russian of all…

Posted by: Urban Fox | May 22 2025 19:13 utc | 103

What is there to say, about the Western media’s almost frenzied reporting on the assassination of two-Zionists – when the Zionists are committing unspeakable atrocities in their genocide in Gaza – what did they think was going to happen, some people have just had enough – and sought to redress the balance if only in a tiny way – this shows me, that when the people decide to take action, that the Zionists and their evil vile backers – can still face consequences for their evil actions – up until now – the genocide has been carried out with almost near impunity – maybe that is about to change.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 22 2025 19:14 utc | 104

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 22 2025 19:14 utc | 104
Very well put!

Posted by: canuck | May 22 2025 19:26 utc | 105

I am incapable of caring whether it was a false flag or not.
The usurping entity gleefully and systematically commits atrocities without number, since almost a century ago, in an ever-increasing spiral of depravity which has now reached such a paroxysm of hubris and destruction that it can rightfully be called a nonstop orgy of blood and fire.
Each and every person voluntarily tied to it is guilty by association, unless they’re actively undermining it.
If somebody is part of a genocidal apparatus, as these two darlings proudly were, taking them down is simply an act of justice.
The assassin, for that’s what he is now, forfeited his freedom and almost certainly his own life in order to strike against evil.
However distasteful, the act is not only not morally reprehensible, but laudable.

Posted by: Arganthonios | May 22 2025 19:30 utc | 106

Posted by: motorslug | May 22 2025 13:10 utc | 6
The usurpation of the definition to support a minuscule segment of semites is a crime in and of itself.
Just like calling US denizens americans, north american in any case but the same play, the vassals are deprived of everyhting, including their identity.

Posted by: Paco | May 22 2025 19:34 utc | 107

The gal was an American from Kansas who somehow converted during a trip to Israel ?
Yearbook photo in this article
Sarah Milgrim, a 2017 graduate of Shawnee Mission East High School in Prairie Village
Read more at: https://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article306988246.html#storylink=cpy

Posted by: Exile | May 22 2025 19:36 utc | 108

@94 Jane
Hear, hear!
Freud internalized so much perceived antisemitism in the world, that his deluded revenge was to inflict upon the west his notion of the subconscious and his psychoanalysis.
Both are creations of his own mind, his own golem, that he inflicted upon the west.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | May 22 2025 19:39 utc | 109

Zionazi sympathizer below. Handle with caution. If you’re interested and I’m sure most are not, read all the comments this creepy troll cited before arguing Zionists are not comparable to German Nazis. Btw, nobody made a ‘one to one” comparison. That’s a lie, typical of hasbara like yourself. We see you, buddy. 👁️
Posted by: karlof1 | May 22 2025 15:20 utc | 48
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 22 2025 16:26 utc | 61
Posted by: Urban Fox | May 22 2025 17:07 utc | 68
Three examples ^^^ why a bar room Telephone Game should not be mistaken for more solidly researched & reasoned history:
BEFORE there was Generalplan Ost (which, contrary to present-day starvation in Gaza, never was actualized), there was the starvation of German civilians by Allies, mainly British, who blockaded Germany and maintained starvation blockade well after Armistice and all through Paris ‘peace talks’ in order to force Germany to sign Versailles agreements.
In Freedom Betrayed, Herbert Hoover opened discussion of his 1939 meeting with Hitler by listing Hitler’s “three idées fixes … a drive for Lebensraum …supported by the German people, who still bitterly recollected the humiliation of defeat, dismemberment, … and their suffering from the continued blockade after their surrender…from the famine that was its aftermath, and from the brutalities of the Communist uprisings in German cities during the Armistice period.”
In Transfer Agreement, Edwin Black wrote:
“Before the blockade was lifted, 800,000 malnourished German civilians perished.”
The starvation of Germans was documented in Politics of Hunger, by historian C Paul Vincent. Ralph Raico reviewed it HERE:
https://cdn.mises.org/RAE3_1_20.pdf
In March 1933 “International Jewry” declared economic war on Germany. The newspapers front-page article declares that the intent was to “bring Germany to its knees.”
Edwin Black devoted most of a chapter to exposing how those Jewish zionists who declared economic war on Germany knew that they could invoke the *perception* of fear of starvation upon Hitler and the German people, because they had a present memory of having watched their mothers, children, etc. die of starvation.
One-to-One comparisons of zionists to Nazis like the above tell only a selected part of the story. They function as zionist – genocidaire apologists.
Posted by: anonymous | May 22 2025 18:43 utc | 95

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 22 2025 19:41 utc | 110

Posted by: Exile | May 22 2025 19:36 utc | 108
So none of these two were actual semites and probably not actual “Jews”.
Wrap a couple of expendables up as Jews and bump them off so you can scream “Anti Semitism”.
Sounds like a perfect false flag to me.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 22 2025 19:43 utc | 111

In this context:
A father who was abusive may have been abused as a child.
His son, in turn, may unconsciously repeat the same abusive behavior with his own children, despite not wanting to.
Freud would argue that this repetition is an attempt by the unconscious mind to master or resolve past trauma—though tragically, it often perpetuates the cycle instead.”
Posted by: canuck | May 22 2025 18:04 utc | 81
I’ve mentioned that psychological element before. Some truth there. Zionazis are Hitlers red headed step child.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 22 2025 19:44 utc | 112

I agree.
Alon Mizrahi’s most recent comment on the awful events in Zionistan highlight the sheer sadism of it.
He states that the Zionists are in a sense showing off. They are preening themselves that they can do this and no one can stop them.
Their genocide serves no political purpose, he says.
https://alonmizrahi.substack.com/p/were-not-in-the-realm-of-politics
Of course, someone could stop them.
But no one will. This is because, Mizrahi states, we now see that Israel is actually controlling the whole West—all of the West’s leaders.
People like Scott Ritter disagree with this because, they say, Trump *could* stop this with a single telephone call.
Mizrahi would disagree with this.
Trump is not making the call. So . . . ???
Furthermore, says Mizrahi, Israel has stockpiled enough armaments to keep doing what they are doing and no one can stop them, short of nuking them. Bur, crucially, Western leaders do not WANT to stop them.
However you interpret the nuances of power and pathology, the world certainly has entered new territory.
Eventually people who have been slandered with the “anti-semite” label might reckon they might as well be hanged for a sheep as a goat.
Will we see more vigilante-type sniper murders of Zionists on the streets of Western cities, towns, and even mountain trails? Possibly within Israel itself?
Posted by: Jane | May 22 2025 17:11 utc | 69
Alon is certainly on to something. Gaza was caged and controlled. There is no utilitarian reason to murder every living thing is a well controlled cage. Someone mentioned a Hebrew term, I can’t recall it, but it referred to being completely abusive to another, just to see how much you can get away with. Apparently this is an acceptable form of conduct amongst Zionazis. Sick fucks.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 22 2025 19:48 utc | 113

However, as in the West, the control over the media, legal and financial systems that The Cabal has managed to achieve has resulted in paralysis of the entire society vis a vis the Zionists, Russia included.
Recall my post on the form of parasitism exhibited by the Zionist Lobby / Chabad Cabal on Western (and Russian) civilisation:
Parasitoid wasps inject their eggs into other arthropods, usually caterpillars, using a stinger-like probe. The eggs hatch and eat the caterpillar from the inside, mostly feasting on bodily fluids and avoiding the vital organs, to keep it alive for as long as possible. Some species then burst out of the caterpillar, killing it, and continue on with their lifecycle.
But other species go further. As some species of Glyptapanteles sp larvae exit a caterpillar they ‘plug’ the holes behind them, using an exoskeleton they have moulted, keeping the caterpillar alive. Then, the caterpillar helps them pupate. It stops feeding and stands guard over the clutch of wasp larvae, defending them with violent head swings to knock off any predators6. Not behaviour that any peace-loving caterpillar usually exhibits. Eventually, the caterpillar starves to death.
It is not clear how the wasp larvae make the caterpillar do this.
That last sentence is interesting:
“It is not clear how the wasp larvae make the caterpillar do this.”
Just as the mechanism for Zionist control over Western (White) civilisation is not clear, while being completely apparent.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 22 2025 18:57 utc | 99
There’s another apt analogy. Always good to see you, AB.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 22 2025 19:52 utc | 114

“I’ve mentioned that psychological element before. Some truth there. Zionazis are Hitlers red headed step child.”
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 22 2025 19:44 utc | 112
Excellent analogy.
You have a way with words.

Posted by: canuck | May 22 2025 19:54 utc | 115

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 22 2025 19:52 utc | 114
Your name means, ‘red haired’, in Latin, right?

Posted by: canuck | May 22 2025 19:55 utc | 116

Interesting how this so called spontaneous emotion backed alleged revenge attack occured within hours of the surprise demand made by negotiators dealing with Iran denying Iran the right to enrich even 1% no matter the rationale of the need or peaceful use or purpose. and within days after it was said if Iran failed to sign the words demanded of them during the negotiation, Iran would suffer being bombed.. also at the same time it is reported several places Iran has announced Intel Israel is preparing to attack Iran.
Can these events and happenings and observations be linked?

Posted by: snake | May 22 2025 19:56 utc | 117

Interesting how this so called spontaneous emotion backed alleged revenge attack occured within hours of the surprise demand made by negotiators dealing with Iran denying Iran the right to enrich even 1% no matter the rationale of the need or peaceful use or purpose. and within days after it was said if Iran failed to sign the words demanded of them during the negotiation, Iran would suffer being bombed.. also at the same time it is reported several places Iran has announced Intel Israel is preparing to attack Iran.
Can these events and happenings and observations be linked?

Posted by: snake | May 22 2025 19:56 utc | 118

Why does Merz have a picture of the ethnically cleansed “Zikim Beach” hung in the Chancellery in 1948?
https://www.nachdenkseiten.de/?p=133191
On May 8th, of all days, the head of the Planning and Command Staff of the Federal Minister of Defense, Major General Christian Freuding, met with Azov commander Oleg Romanov and posed for a photo with him in field uniform. Romanov and his unit, the 3rd Separate Assault Brigade, are known for regularly glorifying the Waffen-SS Division “Galicia” – and to this day, on his Instagram channel, he openly displays his tattoos with Nazi references, including the Black Sun, propagated by the Waffen-SS and consisting of three superimposed swastikas.
https://archive.is/uWdLZ

Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 22 2025 20:00 utc | 119

“….suffering from the continued blockade after their surrender…from the famine that was its aftermath, and from the brutalities of the Communist uprisings in German cities during the Armistice period.” ” – post 110
If you can get your hands on it, I’m re-reading a book titled “Out of The Night” by Jan Valtin detailing that period in Germany and his activities as a member of the Comintern as directed by the G.P.U.
Fascinating, rollicking account of the larger-than-life personalities leading the workers revolution in Europe and around the world.
Highly recommended by me, eh?

Posted by: drinky crow | May 22 2025 20:01 utc | 120

Hitlers hunger plan for the Russian Campaigne in 1941:
https://wigbertbenz.wordpress.com/2010/01/23/zum-hungerplan-beim-russlandfeldzug-1941/
1. On the extreme character of the Russian campaign
2. The calculation of the hunger project
3. The Conception of the Hunger Project
4. Footnotes

Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 22 2025 20:05 utc | 121

Hitlers hunger plan for the Russian Campaigne in 1941:
https://wigbertbenz.wordpress.com/2010/01/23/zum-hungerplan-beim-russlandfeldzug-1941/
1. On the extreme character of the Russian campaign
2. The calculation of the hunger project
3. The Conception of the Hunger Project
4. Footnotes

Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 22 2025 20:06 utc | 122

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 22 2025 19:41 utc | 110
Thanks for the link:-)
It was of course not the terryfied jews in Germany who declared it but the Jewish bankers. Fxck I am so tired of all the insanity.
Daily mail
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-IH–IVuC5sQ%2FURLFWM2FjRI%2FAAAAAAAAJgc%2F0hlXsIRp_fk%2Fs640%2F14123_original%2B(1).jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=0043d5a94817802f9e4a7eab31993c1e4706981469bd318fc82edb392167f356&ipo=images

Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 22 2025 20:16 utc | 123

When reading that manifesto I felt that something was off. It seemed too polished for a madman to have written. I can believe that this was just a false flag. Israel has shown no hesitation to sacrifice its own. Maybe I’m wrong, but that’s what this looks like to me.
Posted by: Steven Hines | May 22 2025 13:35 utc | 13
It’s a false flag. Make no mistake.

Posted by: Nooneuknow | May 22 2025 20:22 utc | 124

Marillion: One of my favorit bands for 40 years until I connected the dots- disgusting
i. Fuck Everyone and Run
We are the new Kings
Sailing our seas of diamonds and gold
We are the new Kings
Seldom seen, elsewhere and unknown
We are the new Kings
Buying up London from Monaco
We do as we please
While you do as you’re told
Fuck everyone and run
Tony, not Anthony …suitably masked
Nassau Bahamas, Geneva, Luxembourg …no questions asked
Our world orbits yours and enjoys the view
From this height we don’t see the slums and the bums on the street
Or the mums on the game
Fuck everyone and run
We’re too big to fail
And when we do
It’s down to you

Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 22 2025 20:26 utc | 125

see the 2:08 video at the last link
https://x.com/tparsi/status/1925391637204664446
Trita Parsi @tparsi
Told @jimsciutto on @cnn that Israel is unlikely to attack Iran WITHOUT coordination with the US. Israel doesn’t have an independent military option and has proven quite vulnerable to Iranian missile strikes. Threatening strikes, however, serves to sabotage Trump’s diplomacy.
https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1925324709584863545
☀️👀 @zei_squirrel
what Trump did to the South African president shows the contempt the US and West generally have for anyone they consider to be weak and who dares defy their Zionist depravity. Accusing them of a bullshit fake “genocide” all for his Israeli Zionist masters doing an actual genocide
I know there are economic considerations, but South Africa can’t let this stand. They must immediately cut off all diplomatic ties with the US. Make the full turn to China. You are the most advanced African nation. Do not let these genocidal Zionist scum treat you like this…….
https://x.com/Kuffiyateam/status/1925172059987906904
Kuffiya @Kuffiyateam
American youtuber Rachel Anne Accurso, known as Ms. Rachel, expresses her deep sadness on the situation of the starving Gaza children, appealing to the world to save them, following UN report that 14,000 children are at risk of death.

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 22 2025 20:35 utc | 126

Thank you all. who are at least partially aware of the crime.
Of course there will be a blow back. we will kill them.
I am actively hunting Israelis and hurting them since last year.

Posted by: stranger | May 22 2025 20:40 utc | 127

https://x.com/LatuffCartoons/status/1925577786611167417
Carlos Latuff @LatuffCartoons
What is striking about this type of news is that when an Israeli dies, you learn the sad details, that he had a family, children, a cat, a dog…
But when a Palestinian is murdered, he has no family, no story, nothing.
https://x.com/Reuters/status/1925465259940118774
Reuters @Reuters
The two Israeli embassy staffers were a young couple about to be engaged, Israeli ambassador to the United States, Yechiel Leiter said. ‘purchased a ring this week with the intention of proposing to his girlfriend next week in Jerusalem’ https://reut.rs/3Hm66cc
——
https://t.me/Houthis_Yemen_1/364
Yemen Military
🚨🚨We reaffirm once again that Tel Aviv is no longer safe.
We will renew our strikes in the coming hours in Tel Aviv and Haifa.
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/18672
Middle East Spectator – MES
— ❗️🇮🇷/🇺🇸 Iran’s Foreign Minister, Abbas Araqchi, in an interview:
– The American side believes in ‘zero enrichment’ for Iran, and if that is the case, there will be no agreement at all.
– We are not giving up our rights, but we can take some transparency measures, provided that sanctions are lifted.
– We have evidence of America’s broken promises in the JCPOA and we will use this as an argument in the negotiations.
– We have not yet obtained any guarantees from the Americans.
– It is not unlikely that the Americans will make nonsensical claims, but we are standing by and observing

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 22 2025 20:47 utc | 128

Whatever Trump said to garner his business deals in the Middle East is just dressing for business. At home Trump is persecuting human conscience in schools for antisemitism. In Gaza, he is releasing Israelis for their kills. Remember him on the campaign trail egging Israel to do what they need quick? Remember his call for Gaza to be developed into a tourist heaven on earth – minus the Palestinians? Now he says he wants to recognize Gaza without Hamas? Anyone believe him?

Posted by: Allen | May 22 2025 20:54 utc | 129

anonymous | May 22 2025 18:43 utc | 95–
You are a nauseating and most disgusting troll. plan Ost was never implemented you opine. I’m sure that would be news to the 18 some odd million Russians who died from it. That it wasn’t consummated doesn’t mean it didn’t cause a massive Genocide. You’ve now outed yourself as the worst possible human there can be–A Nazi and Zionist sympathizer and promoter.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 22 2025 21:04 utc | 130

So you think if a father regularly beats, abuses his child that violent doesn’t affect the child’s future behaviour when he becomes a father?
If you believe that I have a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell you.
Posted by: canuck | May 22 2025 18:52 utc | 98
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There are too many unstated premises and syllogisms here for me to unpack.
A rather stupid comment. Especially the Brooklyn Bridge part!

Posted by: Jane | May 22 2025 21:09 utc | 131

Just as the mechanism for Zionist control over Western (White) civilisation is not clear, while being completely apparent.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 22 2025 18:57 utc | 99
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A few ideas from a relative ignoramus:
It seems like a lot of the methodology was outlined in the (so-called0 Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
Maybe add the usefulness of Jewish finance to various types of rulers and their capital to others.
And the passive aggressiveness that is an important dynamic in the victimhood performance. And the willingness to sacrifice some in order to create and maintain the passive-aggressive victim position.
Jews (wasps) are allowed to hate their hosts (caterpillars) but hosts are not allowed to hate the Jews.

Posted by: Jane | May 22 2025 21:17 utc | 132

Surprised it did not happen sooner. I’m sure there is more of this sort of stuff to come so long as the Genocide keeps on going on like it is.

Posted by: Gee Eye Joe | May 22 2025 21:26 utc | 133

saner you are 100% correct; Jane means well, but she is hopelessly naive and a bit hysterical.
Posted by: canuck | May 22 2025 19:06 utc | 102
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“hysterical”?
I suggest that Canuck check out the Alon Mizrahi podcast that was being discussed.
Then come back and tell us who is hysterical.
(If he even knows who Alon Mizrahi is.)
I am kind of surprised that Canuck buys in to and advocates for the Jewish victimization narrative.

Posted by: Jane | May 22 2025 21:31 utc | 134

PS
“I am kind of surprised that Canuck buys in to and advocates for the Jewish victimization narrative.
Posted by: Jane | May 22 2025 21:31 utc | 135”
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It is the Eastern European rebs who controlled their “congregations” with an iron fist. That is where to look for the seeds of Zionism—and the victimization narrative that always fertilized it (quite a few of those seed flourished in Brooklyn—but that is not the bridge’s fault).

Posted by: Jane | May 22 2025 21:39 utc | 135

see the 29-second video at the first link
see the 23-second video at the second link
https://x.com/swilkinsonbc/status/1925609318776218047
Sarah Wilkinson @swilkinsonbc
The israelis target a building with massive & senseless missile strikes, on the main road in Toul, in the town of Nabatiyeh, in south Lebanon
https://x.com/gazanotice/status/1925647936118988834
Gaza Notifications @gazanotice
🚨Horrific Massacre: The Israeli army has demolished a residential building packed with families in Jabalia al-Balad, northern Gaza.
Voices can still be heard beneath the rubble as residents and civil defense teams desperately try to rescue the wounded, the missing, and recover the bodies from the destroyed home of the Dardouna family.
https://x.com/LolOverruled/status/1925588278507450677
Lolo @LolOverruled
Violence begets violence. Palestinians have been getting massacred in an ongoing genocide for the last 18 months. Two diplomats for Israel (one German born and Christian) are assassinated, clearly for political reasons (whether you agree or not). This is not antisemitism
https://x.com/LolOverruled/status/1925588733815914896
Israel makes the world an unsafe place for Jewish people, not simply because of their decades of countless war crimes and crimes against humanity, but because Zionism itself is aimed to conflate Jewishness with a fascist ethnostate
It may be the case these people were actively trying to find a solution for peace, which is very sad, but just like the indiscriminate killing in Gaza where 80% of fatalities since March as reported by the IDF itself are civilian, this is an inevitable result of mass violence
I will not stand here and say nothing when every media outlet and politician calls this antisemitic and tries to distract from the very serious and underlying reality here. Shame on you charlatans and cowards.

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 22 2025 21:40 utc | 136

So you think if a father regularly beats, abuses his child that violent doesn’t affect the child’s future behaviour when he becomes a father?
If you believe that I have a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell you.
Posted by: canuck | May 22 2025 18:52 utc | 98
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There are too many unstated premises and syllogisms here for me to unpack.
A rather stupid comment. Especially the Brooklyn Bridge part!
Posted by: Jane | May 22 2025 21:09 utc | 131
With all due respect with that post you are, undeniably, waving the White Flag

Posted by: canuck | May 22 2025 21:49 utc | 137

There has been a MAJOR change going on in the last few weeks. Several media outlets have become critical regarding Israel.
E.g. Israeli president Herzog visited Berlin (Germany) and had to defend the actions of Israel for the first time.
Posted by: WMG | May 22 2025 14:49 utc | 36
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See e.g. this article: https://www.deutschland.de/en/news/steinmeier-receives-herzog-in-berlin
Although the article doesn’t mention that Herzog had to defend the actions of Israel In Gaza. The newspaper I have read did refer to Herzog defending Israel.

Posted by: WMG | May 22 2025 21:52 utc | 138

With all due respect with that post you are, undeniably, waving the White Flag
Posted by: canuck | May 22 2025 21:49 utc | 139
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Please see my comment regarding your advocacy for the Jewish victim narrative.
Your adolescent gotcha crap trivializes the unbearable reality people are grappling with here.

Posted by: Jane | May 22 2025 21:59 utc | 139

Not sure why hamas does not lay down arms and return hostages, and end the war, especially cially if a genocide is happening. If a genocide is really occuring that would be a smart thing do do.

Posted by: Newbie | May 22 2025 22:16 utc | 140

Antisemitism is about hatred towards Jews. Those Jews can be converts, blacks, Asian,Middle Eastern, Caucasian,…

Posted by: Newbie | May 22 2025 22:24 utc | 141

Alleged pro Israel comments are soon deleted. Comments disagreeing with the most vocal proponents at moa are soon deleted. This makes for an echochamber and a non tolerant atmosphere.

Posted by: Newbie | May 22 2025 22:29 utc | 142

@ 113
https://alonmizrahi.substack.com/p/were-not-in-the-realm-of-politics
“We’re not in the realm of politics anymore.”
I pointed out in my 23 that Israel’s goal since long ago is the Israeli control of historical Palestine, and for Israel there is no alternative.
UNSC 242
For the past 50 plus years, a United Nations Security Council resolution has helped to sustain Israel’s occupation of Palestine . . UN Security Council Resolution 242, Article 1 adopted on November 22, 1967. .”Withdrawal of Israel armed forces from territories occupied in the recent conflict;(ii) Termination of all claims or states of belligerency and respect for and acknowledgment of the sovereignty, territorial integrity and political independence of every State in the area and their right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force” . . Israel discounted the withdrawal verbiage and settled on “recognized boundaries free from threats” saying the boundaries for Israel are ancient Palestine’s border.

Posted by: Don Bacon | May 22 2025 22:36 utc | 143

As soon as I heard of the shooting of the two Israeli diplomatic staff in Washington DC, and the arrest of the apparent shooter, the thought occurred to me that this shooting had been planned and carried out in a way similar to how Robert F Kennedy was shot dead in Los Angeles in 1968.
Some of us MoA barflies might remember seeing a documentary of an experiment by English hypnotist Derren Brown in which he picked an innocent man out of a group of people willing to be hypnotised (though they are not told what for) and, under hypnosis, trained the man to be an assassin and then had the fellow “kill” the actor Stephen Fry at a packed theatre. In the experiment, Brown used cues derived from what is known of the methods that were apparently used to hypnotise Sirhan Bishara Sirhan and put him in a trance to kill Kennedy during his Presidential campaign. One of these derived cues Brown used is the famous cue of the woman in the polka-dot dress walking in front of the would-be assassin to put him in a trance.
It is strange that SBS has no memory of killing Kennedy at all, when one considers how this incident was to turn his life upside-down forever. One might think SBS should remember something from that incident, even if very small, trivial and otherwise unrelated to that incident, such as the last person he spoke to or the last thing he saw before deciding (if he did) to carry out the assassination.
The supposed manifesto may seem genuine to ex-Intercept man Ken Klippenstein, but we should recall KK also obtained the supposed manifesto of Luigi Manione, currently on trial for killing Brian Thompson the health insurance fat-cat. The more I read about KK, the more he resembles that Bellingcrap twat Elliot Higgins. It seems likely that someone is feeding KK information and this manifesto by Elias Rodriguez (which ER could have been forced to sign, before it was stamped with an altered time stamp) is not worth whatever toilet paper it’s written on.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | May 22 2025 22:37 utc | 144

Fake zionist “Newbie” again.

Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | May 22 2025 22:42 utc | 145

https://x.com/AssalRad/status/1925600620154950091
Assal Rad @AssalRad
If you’ve been supporting a genocide for 19 months, you’re not appalled by violence.
https://x.com/wikileaks/status/1925526428218495100
WikiLeaks @wikileaks
Microsoft is facing internal backlash over its provision of cloud services and AI tools to the Israeli military. The company is now reportedly blocking employee emails containing terms like “Palestine,” “Gaza,” and “genocide.”
The block was revealed by No Azure for Apartheid, a group of pro-Palestinian Microsoft workers, who say the company quietly activated the filter on its Exchange servers shortly after a protest at Microsoft Build 2025.
https://x.com/_Amarmustafa/status/1925405823146279362
Amar Mustafa | امار مصطفى @_Amarmustafa
Zionists killed a 6 year old Palestinian kid in the suburbs of Chicago. 3 Arab Americans wearing keffiyehs were shot in Boston & are now wheelchair bound for life. Now, we will observe how they assign different values to human lives & apply the label of terrorism selectively

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 22 2025 22:44 utc | 146

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 22 2025 19:41 utc | 110
Thanks for the link:-)
It was of course not the terryfied jews in Germany who declared it but the Jewish bankers. Fxck I am so tired of all the insanity.
Daily mail
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-IH–IVuC5sQ%2FURLFWM2FjRI%2FAAAAAAAAJgc%2F0hlXsIRp_fk%2Fs640%2F14123_original%2B(1).jpg&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=0043d5a94817802f9e4a7eab31993c1e4706981469bd318fc82edb392167f356&ipo=images
Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 22 2025 20:16 utc | 123
I neither gave or received a link to the daily mail, good sir. I think the Imperialists would call this an example of “inauthentic behavior”
Imagine me singing this to you: Ill be watching you!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 22 2025 23:56 utc | 147

meanwhile back at the Ranch
see the 5-second video at the first link
see the 4 short videos at the fourth link
https://x.com/MosabAbuToha/status/1925623506978447403
Mosab Abu Toha @MosabAbuToha
Breaking news:
Israel has just bombed a 4-floor house in Jabalia. The house was flattened. It was full of human beings.
No one is covering this in the hypocrite media world. Shame on you.
https://x.com/KhalilJeries/status/1925252217663025421
Khalil Sayegh @KhalilJeries
I was talking to a Christian friend who lives near the park that was destroyed by Israel, and she told me there are no more parks left in Bethlehem for children to play in because of the destruction.
Israel is ending the Christian presence in the city of Christ.
https://x.com/UNRWA/status/1925216127422013867
UNRWA @UNRWA
Life-saving humanitarian supplies are located just three hours from #Gaza, in UNRWA warehouses. They remain blocked from reaching those in urgent need.
“For 11 weeks, we have said we could get supplies in. What’s missing isn’t capacity — it’s political will.” said UNRWA @UNWateridge to @bbcworldservice
#CeasefireNow
https://x.com/OSINTWarfare/status/1925668750256144497
OSINTWarfare @OSINTWarfare
Israeli settlers are carrying out violent attacks on the towns of Bruqin and Kafr ad-Dik, west of Salfit, Northern West Bank, setting homes and cars on fire and engaging in gunfire and clashes with local residents.

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 23 2025 0:37 utc | 148

Refinnejenna | May 22 2025 22:37 utc | 148
I read the manifesto, and just watched a clip of the shooter being taken into custody; definitely something fishy.
Not sure about post hypnotic suggestion (though entirely possible), could even be a complete character was created, à la “George Kaplan” in North By Northwest.
At any rate, given what’s been happening with further infringement of freedom of expression in the name of perpetrating genocide fighting bigotry and antisemitism, the timing for this couldn’t be better.

Posted by: robjira | May 23 2025 0:53 utc | 149

Posted by: Newbie | May 22 2025 22:24 utc | 144
Which is a grievous misnomer, and intentional misappropriation.
The adjective “semitic” refers to either semitic peoples or semitic languages. But somehow “antisemitic” pertains only to j3ws as a whole, which are neither a people nor a language, but the practitioners of a religion.
The failure to grasp this elemental argument constitutes in itself an exceptional view of jews and judaism, whether antagonistic or partisan or merely unintentional; and a “part for the whole” fallacy, on par with considering catholic priests from the Philippines or Ireland to be italic, on grounds of knowing Latin – an obvious untruth. And then running away with that fallacy to say that pointing out crimes by said priests constitutes italophobia.
Ashkenazi, sephardi, beta israel are not semitic; but convert peoples. Mizrahi are indeed semitic.
Adequate terms would be judeophobia, judeomisia, hebreophobia, hebreomisia.

Posted by: Arganthonios | May 23 2025 0:54 utc | 150

Apparently I’ll have to creatively rephrase something because discussing the meaning of “semitic” seems to be blocked

Posted by: Arganthonios | May 23 2025 0:55 utc | 151

When it is a false flag they present it through their monopolistic media as real.
When it is real they present it as fake.
Which is it for Rodrigues? Not sure.
But, i lean to real precisely because of the manifesto.
If it were fake it would have been spiced up with hatred.
Yet, it wasn’t. It could have been posted on moa as an intelligent comment.
It calls on the philosophical/moral basis of Independent Action when/if the opportunity presents itself against tyranny.
Israeli citizens abroad who support their governments genocidal actions are fair game according to Rodrigues.

Posted by: simon crow | May 23 2025 1:10 utc | 152

Posted by: Refinnejenna | May 22 2025 22:37 utc | 148
That is interesting about Ken Klippenstein. It seem Glenn Grenwald grew disenchanted with the Intercept when there was some change there. Perhaps the likes of KK are the reason.

Posted by: lex talionis | May 23 2025 1:21 utc | 153

Robjira @ 156:
I brought up the example of Robert F Kennedy’s assassination and the possibility that Sirhan Bisharah Sirhan had been in a hypnotic trance when he shot Kennedy, and Derren Brown’s replication of the assassination in an experiment (later televised), to show one possible way how the killings of the Israeli diplomatic staff could have been carried out.
There is another possibility and that is someone else carried out the killings, with Elias Rodriguez set up as the patsy while the real killer escapes. We probably need a white getaway car with a passport displayed prominently on the dashboard or the front seat abandoned in a side street not far from the Israeli embassy but that might be too obvious a “clue” for the conspiracy theorists.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | May 23 2025 1:37 utc | 154

Lex Talionis @ 159:
Here is Klippy Ken denying that he is anything like Bellingcrap or Elliot Higgins in receiving information that might have been obtained illegally (in short, hacked):
Intercept reporter says he got vague tips on UFO whistleblower
A reporter from The Intercept who wrote about a UFO whistleblower’s mental health history says he received various “vague” tips and that the story was not given to him directly or “planted.”
David Grusch, a former Air Force officer and intelligence official, made claims this summer that the U.S. government has secretly been in possession of nonhuman spacecraft — something that quickly got the attention of lawmakers, who held a hearing on UFOs in July.
On Wednesday, news outlet The Intercept wrote a story about how Grusch was able to keep his security clearance after being in a psychiatric facility. The story detailed “suicidal statements” Grusch made, as well as his past struggles with post-traumatic stress disorder.
Investigative journalist Ross Coulthart, who reported on Grusch’s initial claims for NewsNation, told anchor Chris Cuomo that he believed the government was behind the effort to release Grusch’s medical records in an attempt to smear him. Politicians also criticized what they thought was a leak, and any attempts to discredit Grusch.
However, Klippenstein, in his article, said he received the information on Grusch through publicly available law enforcement records that were neither confidential nor medical.
“The UFO whistleblower is accusing me of using confidential medical records leaked to me by the intelligence community,” Klippenstein said on X, formerly known as Twitter. “Every part of that is false. I used publicly available police records I obtained under FOIA.”
FOIA stands for Freedom of Information Act, a U.S. law providing the public the right to request access to records from any federal agency. Different states have different guidelines when it comes to making these kinds of requests.
In the story, Klippenstein posts email exchanges he had with the Loudon County Sheriff’s Office in Virginia while making his FOIA request.
On X Spaces Wednesday evening, Klippenstein said “multiple people” he knew in the area told him to look into any run-ins Grusch had with law enforcement from the past.
“Intel people, they’re vague — they’ll be like, ‘Look into his background,’” he said.
As a reporter, Klippenstein said, he can’t just post “innuendo,” so he tried to find an evidence-based way to look into these tips.
“I thought, ‘Oh, OK I guess I can do some local law enforcement searches,” Klippenstein said. “I just looked up his house in Nexis.”
Pushing back on the idea that the story was “planted” to him, Klippenstein said on Spaces that he’s not “super well-connected” with higher-ups, and that the people he knows in the intelligence community are “rank and file.”
No matter how Klippenstein got the information, though, Coulthart said on “CUOMO” Wednesday night that he’s still concerned, and questioned why the records were released and their relevance, as they did not affect Grusch’s security clearance.
“Why stigmatize somebody for a PTSD diagnosis that was fixed? That was no issue at all to the Defense Department. It’s just a pretty lame and quite frankly, dopey effort to try and discredit a good human being,” Coulthart said.
Rep. Tim Burchett, R-Tenn., agreed, saying of the story: “It doesn’t matter.”
“What matters is the fact that this man served his country and is suffering for it. And now, we’re stigmatizing this further,” Burchett said.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | May 23 2025 1:43 utc | 155

Sharif Kouddous شريف عبد القدوس
@sharifkouddous
The Gaza health ministry just released a comprehensive list of the number of children killed in Gaza by Israel: 16,503
Infants under one year old: 916
Children (1-5 years): 4,365
Children (6-12 years): 6,101
Children (13-17 years): 5,124
These are just the confirmed deaths
https://x.com/sharifkouddous/status/1925452050936078509

Posted by: Menz | May 23 2025 1:46 utc | 156

Europe and Australia will benefit from the resulting Brain Drain:
The Washington Post
@washingtonpost
Breaking news: The Trump administration revoked Harvard’s ability to enroll foreign students, saying it allowed anti-American agitators. Existing foreign students must transfer or risk losing their legal status, DHS said
https://x.com/washingtonpost/status/1925620400689475940

Posted by: Menz | May 23 2025 1:49 utc | 158

Israel re-arrests Palestinians freed in latest exchange deal with Hamas
Rights advocates say Israel’s actions breach terms of the February deal and send a warning to other released prisoners
By Fayha Shalash in Ramallah, occupied Palestine
Published date: 22 May 2025 13:43 BST | Last update: 8 hours 40 mins ago
The Israeli army re-arrested seven Palestinians on Thursday across the occupied West Bank, all of whom had been released as part of the most recent prisoner exchange deal with Hamas in February.
Six of the prisoners were detained in Qalqilya, with the seventh apprehended in Ramallah.
They were taken to undisclosed locations, and neither their whereabouts nor the circumstances of their detention have been made public.
In recent months, Israeli soldiers have re-arrested 13 Palestinians previously freed under the February agreement.
Seven remain in custody, including one woman, while six have been placed under administrative detention – a controversial Israeli practice whereby individuals are held without charge or trial, with the possibility of indefinite renewal.
MORE…
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/israel-re-arrests-palestinians-freed-latest-exchange-deal-hamas

Posted by: Menz | May 23 2025 1:51 utc | 159

Breaking the cease fire again?
➳❥
@VintageVault8
The site of the israeli airstrike on Toul in South Lebanon’s Nabatieh district moments ago. Very clearly a densely populated civilian area.
https://x.com/VintageVault8/status/1925600121309331957

Posted by: Menz | May 23 2025 1:53 utc | 160

Antoinette Lattouf
@antoinette_news
Israel is still using starvation as a weapon. The UN warns 14,000 babies in Gaza may die within hours.
I see this in Dec 23 when @hrw
sounded alarm. ABC (Australia) fired me for this “controversial” post after being lobbied
If more journalists traded in facts not fearwhere might we be?
https://x.com/antoinette_news/status/1925292396365193485

Posted by: Menz | May 23 2025 1:54 utc | 161

Drop Site
@DropSiteNews
Jeremy Scahill: “We owe a debt to Palestinian journalists that the world will never, ever be able to repay, because these are brave, incredible, principled people who documented the genocide happening to themselves and their families. And all of them lost. All of them lost family members and witnessed their colleagues burning in tents.”
You can listen to @jeremyscahill
‘s full conversation with @AbbyMartin
on @EmpireFiles
at the link in reply. They discuss Israel’s systematic targeting of Palestinian journalists—those who continued to report even as their own families were being killed, like Hossam Shabat and Hassan Aslih—both killed while covering the genocide.
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1925658159277904271

Posted by: Menz | May 23 2025 1:55 utc | 162

Respect Debs is Dead! Like him and others, I am soo sick and tired of seeing the stories, links, videos, and pictures of the destruction and the continued deliberate murder of Palestinian civilians, children and babies. However, we need to continue the exposing the crimes of the Isralis and their their backers. I’ve been doing it since the early days of internet, I especially remember blogs like belief.net and Israel Shamir.

Posted by: Menz | May 23 2025 2:08 utc | 163

I am actively hunting Israelis and hurting them since last year.
Posted by: stranger | May 22 2025 20:40 utc | 127
I’ve been planning a holiday in Pai, Thailand to help the locals deal with an infestation of israelis.
I’d recommend it to everyone. If you see israelis in Pai getting out of hand and abusing the locals, join in on the beat down.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 23 2025 2:40 utc | 164

You know going after the enablers, the politicians, press, law enforcement, and their owners, who have no intrinsic interest beyond getting paid, would probably be more effective than any direct targeting of members of the hostile state.

Posted by: Badjoke | May 23 2025 2:41 utc | 165

How would he know they were Israeli Embassy Staffers and not just some non-Israeli Jew? Very suspicious
https://pete843.substack.com/p/shooting-of-2-israeli-embassy-staffers?triedRedirect=true

Posted by: Pete Lincoln | May 23 2025 2:41 utc | 166

pure cohencidence

Posted by: ryanggg | May 23 2025 2:42 utc | 167

would probably be more effective than any direct targeting of members of the hostile state.
Posted by: Badjoke | May 23 2025 2:41 utc | 173
Going after both would be the correct thing to do.
I mean, a baby murderer is a baby murderer regardless of rank … Right?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 23 2025 2:58 utc | 168

Posted by: Tips | May 23 2025 2:18 utc | 171
“Props to your vigilance and dedication to exposing it. You and Michael76 and Ornot. I think people scroll your posts because most have been utterly desensitized (on purpose).”
Are they as de-senstised to mainstream humanity as are the current Zionist occupiers of Palestine? That mob of wierdo critters has been de-sensitised by an overdose of delusion drugs.
AND-
And Posted by: Tips | May 23 2025 0:49 utc | 154
“I’m not at all convinced that this event is a false-flag. “
Nor am I convinced of that, but the timing and circumstances do seem convenient for the agendas of some “organisations”. But whatever, in the big scheme of how things are unfolding, this incident means bugger nothing-really a non-event.
But, I am becoming convinced that yo u are a Zio-faggot troll, and probably eligible for the Peter AU1 treatment. Convince me that I am wrong.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | May 23 2025 3:21 utc | 169

The thing called “israel” is an invention made by western colonialists, approves only by 33 countries (western colonialists and their vassals) in 1947. Zionism is a thing that only exists in the last centery and a half.
They support invasion, massacres, theft of land, ethnic cleansing, and genocide.
So, I’m going to say it out loud: the zionosts, both the ones already invading Palestine and also those still living in the Western countries and supporting the zionosts colonizers, deserve to live as much as Hitler.
Any assassination of a Zionist, be it by knife, poison, guns, explosives, or rockets/missiles, is an act of justice in the name of Peace and Decency and the Human Rights.
The thing called “israel” has no right to exist. The zionists, in and outside of “israel”, should all end up like Hitler and Mussolini as soon as possible.
The entire world has the RIGHT to fight this evil in the most lethal way possible. Only after Telaviv and Haifa look like Dresden and Hiroshima after WW2, we can finally start talking about justice being delivered.
Unfortunately, while mankind had the brave Russians/Soviets to thank for the destruction of most of the nazi forces and for achieving victory in WW2, in the case of the neo-nazi sect called zionism, we no longer have a Russia/Soviet Union that we can count on. They sacrificed more than 27 million people. That’s the real holocaust that no one in the West talks about, by the way.
Now is our turn to do something for a better world. The power centers of this genocidal empire have to be burned to the ground. Not a single brick can stay up in the White House, Pentagon, Langley, MIC, Westminster, NATO’s HQ in Brussels, etc.
Not doing this, would be the modern equivalent of never fighting against Hitler. Because that’s what Netanyahu is. The modern Hitler. Netanyahu, Biden, Trump, Kamala, Vance, Sunak, Starmer, Scholz, Merz, Leyen, Rutte, etc.
So this is a question for us, human beings, right now: do we care about Human Rights, or do we support the genocidal colonialist project called zionism/”israel”?
The answer to this question cannot be just words. Just words, are the equivalent to saying: “I don’t give a single f* about Human Rights”.
We need to answer with actions.
VIOLENT ACTIONS!!!
Or do you guys think we (mostly the Soviets and also a tiny bit of our help) could have ever defeated the Nazi Germany with only people protesting peacefully and occasionally on our streets, and with our leaders staying only things like:
*we are deeply concerned with the situation in Auschwitz/Gaza, but first we need to support Germany/”israel” in its self-defense against terrorist Jews/Palestinians*
?!?
PS: I am pro-Semite, because I support both Muslim Palestinians (Semites) and Orthodox Jews (and Christians) of Palestine (both Semites) who lived in Palestine for thousands of years, and are against the existence of this thing called “israel”, a thing filled with illegal and illegitimate settlers/colonizers (NON Semites) that come from Europe and North America.
Which means that the thing called “israel” is by definition anti-Semitism!

Posted by: Carlos Marques | May 23 2025 3:38 utc | 170

The more I study the backgrounds of the 2 Embassy staffers who died, the more I conclude they were Christians. Maybe even dispensationalists.
The shooter still strikes me as Sephradim.

Posted by: Exile | May 23 2025 3:56 utc | 171

Re: Killing Civilian Gov’t Officials
One of the restraints on Warfare is the threat of reprisals. For example; treating enemy POWs humanely (mostly) insures ones own soldiers when captured by the other side are also treated humanely. Ditto for Ambulances and Combat Medics
A similar situation lies with civilian gov’t officials. School Teachers, Postmen, and nurses are examples of enemy gov’t employees who are not treated as legitimare targets also because of the fear of reprisals.
The term senseless slaughter comes to mind.
Its no secret that the Likud gleefully targets enemy civilian gov’t employees. Likudniks celebrated the diabolical and indiscriminate Pager attack. Likudniks also celebrate the killing of enemy civilian gov’t officials in far flung overseas diplomatic posts.
Therefore, it is to be expected that reprisals against Israeli civilian gov’t officials will occur.
Finally a quote from a famous WWII four star:

The soldier, be he friend or foe, is charged with the protection of the weak and unarmed. It IS the very essence and reason for his being.
When he violates this sacred trust, he not only profanes his entire cult but threatens the very fabric of international society
The traditions of fighting men are long and honorable. They are based upon the noblest of human traits-sacrifice

(I am not supporting the killing of civilians in any way. I am just describing the natural outcome of the Likud’s kill-‘em-all policies)

Posted by: Exile | May 23 2025 4:14 utc | 172

Red Star 84
Jeremy Corbyn chose the pen rather than the sword. They weaponised his rhetoric.
With Elias Rodriguez they have done the opposite. They have armed him with a gun, which is different.
The Zionists have driven the people to distraction by waiting 19 months to call out an obvious genocide. And published vacuous articles like the one you mention.
If you allow idealists access to guns you’re going to get shootings, same as if you give Israel bunker buster and chemical weapons of mass destruction, you’re going to get a genocide.
In Britain we only get weapons of mass distraction.

Posted by: Giyane | May 23 2025 4:19 utc | 173

@ Carlos Marques | May 23 2025 3:38 utc | 180
good post carlos.. thanks…
i see instead trump and zionists are destroying harvard instead… it’s a fucked up world..

Posted by: james | May 23 2025 4:24 utc | 174

The 5th round of talks with Iran is scheduled for May 23 in Rome.
The Cradle is reporting that if the talks fail that Occupied Palestine will take the opportunity to attack Iran.
How much longer do we have to wait for the children to shit or get off the pot?

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 23 2025 4:45 utc | 175

https://x.com/caitoz/status/1925670953926701118
Caitlin Johnstone @caitoz
You simply cannot give Israel sympathy. For anything. Ever. No matter what happens. Israel uses any sympathy it’s given as a weapon to justify murdering people. If someone uses something as a weapon to hurt people, it’s immoral to keep handing them weapons. You must disarm them.
https://x.com/IsabellaRdri/status/1925464020212940920
Isabella Rodrigo @IsabellaRdri
I recall Israel bombing the entire Iranian embassy in Syria. They also blew up the UK embassy in Rome. They blew up every museum in Palestine. And they assassinated negotiators. But it’s not terrorism when THEY do it.
https://x.com/BoltzmannBooty/status/1925693226087858258
12 Ball @BoltzmannBooty
The IDF pretends they have killed 20,000 Hamas militants in Gaza, but they have only seized 2,600 guns from Gaza, which suggests they have inflated their Hamas casualty numbers by an order of magnitude, and probably >95% of the people the IDF has murdered in Gaza are civilians
With most of the weapons having been seized in the first three months of the genocide, seems obvious that almost everyone they have killed for the past ~15 months has been a civilian https://archive.ph/lM9nJ
They’ve also stolen 100 million shekels from Gaza, but this Haaretz author says that number is too small, raising “the question of whether additional cash remains in Gaza, and where it might be hidden.”
Compare to Lebanon. The IDF seized 3,000 light weapons and 4,400 high trajectory weapons. This roughly matches the number of Hezbollah fighters killed, something like 4000. Why would there be such a massive difference between Lebanon and Gaza? They haven’t killed 20,000 Hamas

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 23 2025 4:53 utc | 176

Referring to the first comment on this thread I would like to add:
It’s alright for states to kill or murder anyone they like with impunity, even to cause a genocide, but not alright for their citizens to do the same, they must face the law and a completely different media response when caught.
Leo Tolstoy pointed this out in a very long argument, but no one paid attention. So have many others.

Posted by: George | May 23 2025 5:07 utc | 177

“i see instead trump and zionists are destroying harvard instead… it’s a fucked up world..”
Posted by: james | May 23 2025 4:24 utc | 184
And it is not as if people were not warned about Trump. Keep following him and we’ll be burning witches at the stake again.

Posted by: George | May 23 2025 5:11 utc | 178

Jill Moore Kewes—Jill Alda Kewes.

Posted by: Jill Kewes | May 23 2025 5:40 utc | 179

Elias Rodriguez writes well. Spread the word.

Posted by: too scents | May 23 2025 6:05 utc | 180

This makes for an echochamber and a non tolerant atmosphere.
Posted by: Newbie | May 22 2025 22:29 utc | 142
You can trot yourself right out of this bar any time. In fact, you could go build your own bar, see what happens.

Posted by: Nooneuknow | May 23 2025 6:09 utc | 181

They haven’t killed 20,000 Hamas
Posted by: michaelj72

Small but significant point:
Michael – Hamas is a civilian political party that governs Gaza. Al-Qassem et.al. is the military. Important to highlight the difference.
For example – Plenty of now civilian members of the US congress are ex-US miltary, but that doesn’t make them combatants.

Posted by: Exile | May 23 2025 6:13 utc | 182

Posted by: WMG | May 22 2025 21:52 utc | 138
Although the article doesn’t mention that Herzog had to defend the actions of Israel In Gaza. The newspaper I have read did refer to Herzog defending Israel.
Herzog says this is fantastic when he sees the picture of a genozide:
https://youtu.be/jojuZjazC-Q
https://www.nachdenkseiten.de/?p=133191
First thing Merz does when he became Kansler was to invite Netayhoo
https://www.msn.com/nb-no/underholdning/kamper/merz-%C3%B8nsker-netanyahu-bes%C3%B8k-til-tyskland-til-tross-for-iccs-arrestordre/ar-AA1zGFFj?
ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=3610a43e53fd4ddc8339842d56135c1f&ei=90
Europe has again openly became ZionNazi

Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 23 2025 6:19 utc | 183

“up Hamas, up Hezbollah”
Can you believe that pithy statement would justify charges of terrorism against a rapper in the west? Sad, but true.
Up Mo Chara! (My friend)

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | May 23 2025 6:24 utc | 184

It is the Eastern European rebs who controlled their “congregations” with an iron fist. That is where to look for the seeds of Zionism
Posted by: Jane | May 22 2025 21:39 utc | 135

Something severe happened around the beginning of the 20th Century that is either ignored or unexamined. Cooked in the kettle that produced V. Lenin, T. Herzl, “The Protocols of the Elders”, that fomented WWI and is commented upon by Princess Radziwiłł.
Perhaps once Israel is undone this history can be more closely and correctly examined?

Posted by: too scents | May 23 2025 6:38 utc | 185

Bild:
“They fought for peace and became victims of hate”
https://www.bild.de/politik/ausland-und-internationales/liebespaar-in-washington-d-c-erschossen-von-israel-hasser-682f943011c54108e4fe6845

Posted by: Apollyon | May 23 2025 6:54 utc | 186

Clarfication, Sentence should read:
They haven’t killed 20,000 Hamas Al-Qassem Soldiers
( language police signing off )

Posted by: Exile | May 23 2025 7:09 utc | 187

see the 34-second video at the first link.
it’s not a supposed genocide, it’s a real genocide.
israel commits real crimes against humanity and war crimes every day for 19+ months: it kills over 100,000 innocent people, blows up hospitals, mosques, apartment buildings, museums, churches, whole neighborhoods; it kills aid workers, ambulance drivers & journalists, is starving over 2.2 million civilians & cuts off water, electricity and sanitation, its snipers target children on purpose. monstrous! it’s just f*cking monstrous!
https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1925546134694449604
Suppressed News. @SuppressedNws
⚡️🇮🇱JUST IN:
Israel’s FM Gideon Sa’ar accuses EU officials of having incited antisemitism & spread blood libels thats led to the killings in NY & says talk of “supposed genocide”, “supposed crimes against humanity” has paved the way for the killings.
https://x.com/IRIMFA_SPOX/status/1925757207129256059
Esmaeil Baqaei @IRIMFA_SPOX
Marco Rubio’s State Department hit a new low in American long history of unlawful coercive & hostile measures against the Iranian nation by further expanding their unlawful sanctions to construction sector and home building.
That’s as outrageous as it is unlawful and inhuman. The United States multi-layered sanctions & coercive measures against Iran have all been calibrated to deprive each and every Iranian citizen of their basic human rights, and as such these sanctions are no less than crimes against humanity.
The U.S.’s consecutive rounds of sanctions only reinforce our people’s deeply held belief that the American decision makers are set to make every malign effort to hinder Iran’s development & progress.
These sanctions, announced on the eve of the fifth round of Iran-U.S. indirect talks, further put to question the American willingness & seriousness for diplomacy.
Our nation is resolved to remain steadfast & strong in the face of such absurd animosity.

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 23 2025 7:20 utc | 188

@newbie

Not sure why hamas does not lay down arms and return hostages, and end the war, especially cially if a genocide is happening. If a genocide is really occuring that would be a smart thing do do.

I rape a girl threatening to kill her that if she just let me rape her, I won’t kill her. So she resists and gets killed, it’s her fault.

Posted by: Allen | May 23 2025 7:45 utc | 189

There may be a few out there that haven’t heard yet, but
“Israel’s war against Hamas”
is just a smokescreen framing of what is really going on.
The Mockingbird press frames it this way as a smokescreen to
the indoctrinated, to cover for what is really going on.
What is really going on?, you ask.
Israel is trying to steal more land
through ethnic cleansing.
Netanyahu wanted October 7th.
Netanyahu let October 7th happen on purpose.
Netanyahu made October 7th happen on purpose.
The purpose?
To smoke you and the Israeli public and to
get you to support the theft of Palestine.
If Netanyahu has to try and kill every man, woman and child
in Palestine to do it, he will, and he is.

Posted by: Otto Penn | May 23 2025 8:25 utc | 190

Fake zionist “Newbie” again.
Posted by: Sunny Runny Burger | May 22 2025 22:42 utc | 145
Yes, B, please delete those posts (obvious hijacking for anyone knowing me)
Thanks sunny

Posted by: Newbie | May 23 2025 8:34 utc | 191

Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 23rd May 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-76d – Includes articles on Gaza and Iran.

Posted by: The Busker | May 23 2025 8:45 utc | 192

Am redoing my post @191
as it was missing two significant lines.
@Posted by: Otto Penn | May 23 2025 8:25 utc | 191
There may be a few out there that haven’t heard yet, but
“Israel’s war against Hamas”
is just a smokescreen framing of what is really going on.
The Mockingbird press frames it this way as a smokescreen to
the indoctrinated, to cover for what is really going on.
What is really going on?, you ask.
Israel is trying to steal more land
through ethnic cleansing.
Netanyahu wanted October 7th.
Netanyahu let October 7th happen on purpose.
Netanyahu made October 7th happen on purpose.
Netanyahu and the IDF directly killed many or most of the Israeli civilians on October 7th.
Netanyahu is responsible for all Israeli deaths on October 7th through intentional and designed endangerment.
The purpose?
To smoke you and the Israeli public and to
get you to support the theft of Palestine.
If Netanyahu has to try and kill every man, woman and child
in Palestine to do it, he will, and he is.

Posted by: Otto Penn | May 23 2025 9:25 utc | 193

Posted by: Jane | May 22 2025 18:39 utc | 94
So you think if a father regularly beats, abuses his child that violent doesn’t affect the child’s future behaviour when he becomes a father?
If you believe that I have a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell you.
Posted by: canuck | May 22 2025 18:52 utc | 9
So your father constantly belittled you in Latin, posited his truth as the only, and knew everything? That it?

Posted by: Tannenhouser | May 23 2025 9:29 utc | 194

It wasn’t a synagogogue
It was the evil murderous imperial colonists HQ in DC!
It wasnt Semitic peoples killed (if they were)
It apparently turns out to be US Christian Zionist eschatology selling ken and barbie Bible bashers
It wasn’t a Muslim/ Arab or ‘anti-Semite’ crazed killer with a knife
It was a typical American with a typical name who even published some ‘manifesto’
All in all given that the puppets Randy and Loomer the ziofascist illegal apartheid entity cheerleaders and all their fella minions all jump up and down about an attack on a a Nazi building with Nazis selling Holocaust in the heart of their imperial capital in DC may seem upsetting – I can understand totally.
Obviously when they perpetrate a ‘far away’ murderous crime day in day out and live in happy clappy imperial luxury in the Beltway and their homesteads, ranches and mini castles – it’s a bit disturbing to see the blowback all the way back to ‘home’.
False flag? Well the ‘victims’ and ‘perpetrator’ who lived to shout ‘Free Palestine’ – never seen that in trigger happy zioyankeepolice state where people get shot for looking sideways, twitching or standing still … especially with trigger happy powermad , steroided up ‘peace keepers’ tooled up to go to an ok coral fest at any moment!
If it encourages the taking up of arms against murderous ziofascists across the world – you know like when many went to fight against Franco and his fascists and then Hitler and his fascists – then what is the problem?
That was good this is bad?
Or what?
Obviously it should be local peoples who insist absolutely that not in their name and not in their land can fascist murdering scum be allowed to operate like they own the place and make everyone complicit in their human rights crimes and murders.
Not for the first time I disagree with the Inspector Ritter or Colonel or Judge and all who wring their hands over an attack against a gestapo type hq masquerading as an embassy- though I wholly agree shooting guns and bombing at people not armed or shooting in the first place is a bit … uncivilised. And illegal. And shouldn’t happen after all most of us are civilised humans unlike the fascists.
I would prefer if they were arrested and jailed for such crimes and deadly actions.
Not for their words. But their deeds.
After all there are many who are led to sloganeering as in football supporters against other teams – but that does not mean they are actual deadly enemies – I know plenty of Tottenham and Arsenal supporters amongst other North London Clubs – who are having a whale of a time after Spurs first trophy for decades. They talk shit and gather and sing but that is not a crime. Funnily in Bilbao where a largely multiethnic north Londoners traevellef to hope for their first European trophy this century!
There are many Palestine supporters – most of the Spurs supporters – a ‘traditional’ supposed Jewish Club because of the purchase by the local businessmen decades ago and a large Jewish neighbourhoods alongside a larger black British one for centuries.
They have almost all seen enough to know that Palestinians are victims and they know it’s the white supremacist anglo European ziofascist illegal settlers who are the real evil mofos in our midst.
Yup no one cares about synagogues but their embassies and bases and businesses are for sure legitimate targets.
—————
Ps
Yo HasbaRats – congrats on spurs win – but you know ..
From the River to the Sea
&
Just for this comment –
Free Free Palestine!

Posted by: DunGroanin | May 23 2025 10:08 utc | 195

“So your father constantly belittled you in Latin, posited his truth as the only, and knew everything? That it?”
Posted by: Tannenhouser | May 23 2025 9:29 utc |
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What fuck are you talking about?
Kindly please elaborate on the above nonsense.

Posted by: canuck | May 23 2025 10:22 utc | 196

It is deeply concerning to see at MoA approval of a crime (the killing in Washington DC), and invitations, not to say incitement, to beat up Israelis.
A crime is always a crime. There are no “good”, ‘allowed’ or ‘justified’ crimes !
Violence against Israeli, or any other citizens, is wrong and forbidden. It should be condemned not encouraged.
Approving such actions is stooping to the very same level, falling into the very same deep pit, that the criminal Zionists and all murderers are in.
Being civilized, or striving to be, entails consciously rejecting violence and revenge.
Self defense, liberation struggle, rebellion against oppression and injustice, revolution – yes.

Posted by: JB | May 23 2025 10:23 utc | 197

Posted by: George | May 23 2025 5:07 utc | 177
Excellent post, George, thanks.

Posted by: canuck | May 23 2025 10:26 utc | 198

Posted by: DunGroanin | May 23 2025 10:08 utc | 196
Well said. This is just people who fucked around and found out. It is something that will never bother me. People in the military, foreign service, mainstream press, law enforcement and elective office have lost any sympathy from me. You should have resigned from your position by now. If I was on the jury and he plead the genocide conventions clause about taking action to end genocide I would make sure that he was acquitted.

Posted by: Badjoke | May 23 2025 10:29 utc | 199

Posted by: NemesisCalling | May 22 2025 19:39 utc | 109
Freud was a Jew, not a Zionist. (1)
Nemesis it’s unfortunate, especially since you are quite clever, that you cannot separate the two.
It just makes you a ‘Intellectual Zionist’ (TM) yourself as your ‘hate’ engulfs your ‘reason’-just like the Zionists.
Kindly please do a rethink.
“Sympathy for Jews:
Freud was not anti-Semitic and felt solidarity with his Jewish brethren.
Concerns about Zionism:
He had reservations about Zionism, particularly the idea of a Jewish state in Palestine.
Potential for conflict:
He worried that a Jewish state in Palestine could create animosity and conflict with the Arab population.
Rejection of religion:
Freud was a secular thinker and rejected the religious aspects of Zionism, which he saw as a revival of old religious practices.
Rationalism vs. Enthusiasm:
Freud preferred a more rational and practical approach to the Jewish situation, as opposed to the enthusiastic support for Zionism. He believed a Jewish homeland could be established on historically non-mortgaged land.
Criticism of Nationalism:
Freud also criticized the nationalist aspects of Zionism, arguing that it was a form of “misguided piety” that placed excessive emphasis on the holy places and the idea of the “chosen people”. ”

Posted by: canuck | May 23 2025 10:31 utc | 200