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Palestine Open Thread 2025-112
by Debs is Dead lifted from a comment
Lately I've been avoiding reading about Palestine being genocided by zionists as I'm too old and too crook to get out & do anything about it and it seems words which ain't worth SFA are the only thing I can do now.
However today is too much. Lookit the silly fuss from every western fishwrap & googlebox about a pair of dead zionists on today, a day when Gaza health report the first official notice of five children dying of starvation, the zionist army shot at a bunch of western diplomats to chase them away from a spot where the zionists were indulging in the usual rape, torture and murder of Gaza civilians and that same army today announced the evacuation order for all people in Northern Gaza, in the region of more than 500,000 human beings being chased off their land – again.
In the light of that how can anyone see the dc shooting of a brace of zionist diplomats as anything other than a deliberate set-up by the entity's propaganda machine. Like I said up-thread the photo the zionists released of the two dead apologists for genocide just happened to be much more than a corporate portrait as it showed the pair arm-in-arm in a posed shot standing in front of the embassy logos; a seemingly ideal PR portrait of two photogenic young people, as if the picture takers knew they would need something sympathetic for zionism as for the past few days western fishwraps haven't been nice about zionists (they'll get over that now but), so this is a pic for the front page of every western fishwrap once these two are shot & killed.
The timing stinks far too much to be coincidental, just like the opportune appearance of the picture.
Even starmer had something 'anti-semitic' to say to media yesterday.
Hmm …
The Israel Embassy Shooter Manifesto – 900-word document cites Gaza as motive – Ken Klippenstein
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
Lex Talionis @ 159:
Here is Klippy Ken denying that he is anything like Bellingcrap or Elliot Higgins in receiving information that might have been obtained illegally (in short, hacked):
Intercept reporter says he got vague tips on UFO whistleblower
A reporter from The Intercept who wrote about a UFO whistleblower’s mental health history says he received various “vague” tips and that the story was not given to him directly or “planted.”
David Grusch, a former Air Force officer and intelligence official, made claims this summer that the U.S. government has secretly been in possession of nonhuman spacecraft — something that quickly got the attention of lawmakers, who held a hearing on UFOs in July.
On Wednesday, news outlet The Intercept wrote a story about how Grusch was able to keep his security clearance after being in a psychiatric facility. The story detailed “suicidal statements” Grusch made, as well as his past struggles with post-traumatic stress disorder.
Investigative journalist Ross Coulthart, who reported on Grusch’s initial claims for NewsNation, told anchor Chris Cuomo that he believed the government was behind the effort to release Grusch’s medical records in an attempt to smear him. Politicians also criticized what they thought was a leak, and any attempts to discredit Grusch.
However, Klippenstein, in his article, said he received the information on Grusch through publicly available law enforcement records that were neither confidential nor medical.
“The UFO whistleblower is accusing me of using confidential medical records leaked to me by the intelligence community,” Klippenstein said on X, formerly known as Twitter. “Every part of that is false. I used publicly available police records I obtained under FOIA.”
FOIA stands for Freedom of Information Act, a U.S. law providing the public the right to request access to records from any federal agency. Different states have different guidelines when it comes to making these kinds of requests.
In the story, Klippenstein posts email exchanges he had with the Loudon County Sheriff’s Office in Virginia while making his FOIA request.
On X Spaces Wednesday evening, Klippenstein said “multiple people” he knew in the area told him to look into any run-ins Grusch had with law enforcement from the past.
“Intel people, they’re vague — they’ll be like, ‘Look into his background,’” he said.
As a reporter, Klippenstein said, he can’t just post “innuendo,” so he tried to find an evidence-based way to look into these tips.
“I thought, ‘Oh, OK I guess I can do some local law enforcement searches,” Klippenstein said. “I just looked up his house in Nexis.”
Pushing back on the idea that the story was “planted” to him, Klippenstein said on Spaces that he’s not “super well-connected” with higher-ups, and that the people he knows in the intelligence community are “rank and file.”
No matter how Klippenstein got the information, though, Coulthart said on “CUOMO” Wednesday night that he’s still concerned, and questioned why the records were released and their relevance, as they did not affect Grusch’s security clearance.
“Why stigmatize somebody for a PTSD diagnosis that was fixed? That was no issue at all to the Defense Department. It’s just a pretty lame and quite frankly, dopey effort to try and discredit a good human being,” Coulthart said.
Rep. Tim Burchett, R-Tenn., agreed, saying of the story: “It doesn’t matter.”
“What matters is the fact that this man served his country and is suffering for it. And now, we’re stigmatizing this further,” Burchett said.
Posted by: Refinnejenna | May 23 2025 1:43 utc | 155
The thing called “israel” is an invention made by western colonialists, approves only by 33 countries (western colonialists and their vassals) in 1947. Zionism is a thing that only exists in the last centery and a half.
They support invasion, massacres, theft of land, ethnic cleansing, and genocide.
So, I’m going to say it out loud: the zionosts, both the ones already invading Palestine and also those still living in the Western countries and supporting the zionosts colonizers, deserve to live as much as Hitler.
Any assassination of a Zionist, be it by knife, poison, guns, explosives, or rockets/missiles, is an act of justice in the name of Peace and Decency and the Human Rights.
The thing called “israel” has no right to exist. The zionists, in and outside of “israel”, should all end up like Hitler and Mussolini as soon as possible.
The entire world has the RIGHT to fight this evil in the most lethal way possible. Only after Telaviv and Haifa look like Dresden and Hiroshima after WW2, we can finally start talking about justice being delivered.
Unfortunately, while mankind had the brave Russians/Soviets to thank for the destruction of most of the nazi forces and for achieving victory in WW2, in the case of the neo-nazi sect called zionism, we no longer have a Russia/Soviet Union that we can count on. They sacrificed more than 27 million people. That’s the real holocaust that no one in the West talks about, by the way.
Now is our turn to do something for a better world. The power centers of this genocidal empire have to be burned to the ground. Not a single brick can stay up in the White House, Pentagon, Langley, MIC, Westminster, NATO’s HQ in Brussels, etc.
Not doing this, would be the modern equivalent of never fighting against Hitler. Because that’s what Netanyahu is. The modern Hitler. Netanyahu, Biden, Trump, Kamala, Vance, Sunak, Starmer, Scholz, Merz, Leyen, Rutte, etc.
So this is a question for us, human beings, right now: do we care about Human Rights, or do we support the genocidal colonialist project called zionism/”israel”?
The answer to this question cannot be just words. Just words, are the equivalent to saying: “I don’t give a single f* about Human Rights”.
We need to answer with actions.
VIOLENT ACTIONS!!!
Or do you guys think we (mostly the Soviets and also a tiny bit of our help) could have ever defeated the Nazi Germany with only people protesting peacefully and occasionally on our streets, and with our leaders staying only things like:
*we are deeply concerned with the situation in Auschwitz/Gaza, but first we need to support Germany/”israel” in its self-defense against terrorist Jews/Palestinians*
?!?
PS: I am pro-Semite, because I support both Muslim Palestinians (Semites) and Orthodox Jews (and Christians) of Palestine (both Semites) who lived in Palestine for thousands of years, and are against the existence of this thing called “israel”, a thing filled with illegal and illegitimate settlers/colonizers (NON Semites) that come from Europe and North America.
Which means that the thing called “israel” is by definition anti-Semitism!
Posted by: Carlos Marques | May 23 2025 3:38 utc | 170
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