Are you numb yet? 70 killed here, 50 there. Day by day; on-and-on, every day.
Are you numb yet?

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | May 14 2025 16:34 utc | 203

I’ve been following the stupid comments made by the hasbara trolls on public forums, some cheering and defending acts as atrocious as bombing hospitals full of kids.
I couldn’t help noticing how dumb the counter-arguments and responses of the Muslim community are.
The quality of Muslim responses should be flawless, considering the entire Logic, Law and Morality of the situation is on their side.
Yet their arguments are as retarded, or more so than the imbecilic hasbara.
Then realization hits me:
Muslims don’t operate on Logic.
The Quran and Faith provide the basis for rationality.
That’s why every argument they make will be rooted in nonsense.
They are unable to separate Faith and the Quran from Reason and Logic.
That’s why the Jews have bamboozled them so thoroughly they have no hope of returning to clarity.
Disarmed on the battlefield.
Disarmed on the mind-field.
Substituting suffering for spirituality.
Bereft of everything but faith in the Sky Fairy.
Tragic. For in my book, if your logic is corrupt, then your faith, morals and everything else is corrupt.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 14 2025 16:52 utc | 205

see the 47-second video at the first link
see the 44-second video at the second link
https://x.com/ecomarxi/status/1922677420273897909
Tiberius @ecomarxi
Jerry Seinfeld laughing about the genocide of children in Gaza
ALL ZIONISTS ARE SCUM
https://x.com/HussainShafiei/status/1921613174819758525
Hussain “Hoz” Shafiei @HussainShafiei
She refused to serve Zionists (in her restaurant). They tried to cancel her. Naples stood by her have Faith in humanity always do the right thing.
https://x.com/mamoun_linda/status/1922004788331315369
Linda Mamoun @mamoun_linda
Israel is blocking 3,000 trucks of food from reaching a million children it has been deliberately starving in Gaza. But the media is giving us wall-to-wall coverage of an American who rushed over to Israel after high school to join a death squad that shoots kids in the head.

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 14 2025 17:42 utc | 207

Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 14 2025 16:52 utc | 205
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Brother Bungle, IMO, you are making the classic mistake of judging a culture by the values and standards of a different culture.
Muslims, generally speaking, don’t operate on materialist norms.
If one believes absolutely in God, then none of this stuff we obsess over between humans matters very much.
The only logic for a believer is to try to perfect one’s worship and behavior in the limited time they have.
It’s not to “win”. This realm/plane is temporary. Money doesn’t matter. War doesn’t matter.
It’s all been predestined. We’re judged on how we respond to the circumstances we face.
Now, let’s say one doesn’t believe.
Ok.
I couldn’t do that. I’d lose it if the likely best outcome for life is meaningless oblivion.
Like, what would be the point? Physical pleasure? Status? Fleeting comfort?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 14 2025 21:36 utc | 209

Rep. Pramila Jayapal
@RepJayapal
Judge Giles: “The First Amendment extends to non-citizens and doesn’t distinguish between citizens and non-citizens.”
Badar Khan Suri’s release is a victory for free speech rights. Trump must stop terrorizing immigrants & going after people for opinions he simply disagrees with.
https://x.com/RepJayapal/status/1922724077334098290
Laila Al-Arian
@LailaAlarian
BREAKING: a judge in the Eastern District of Virginia orders the release of Georgetown post doc fellow Badar Khan Suri, targeted for pro-Palestine speech, saying it’s in the public interest to disrupt the chilling of free speech.
Dr. Badar Khan Suri “should have never been arrested and jailed for his constitutionally protected speech just because the government disagrees with him. Ideas are not illegal,” one of Suri’s lawyers Sophia Gregg of @ACLU said
https://x.com/LailaAlarian/status/1922686902873801071

Posted by: Menz | May 14 2025 21:55 utc | 211

https://www.yahoo.com/news/hero-israeli-policeman-fought-hamas-170631691.html
Certainly not the last.
Of course only those who recognize they are monsters will do so. The rest will continue to be monsters, exuberantly.

Posted by: saner | May 14 2025 21:59 utc | 213

Saul Staniforth
@SaulStaniforth
The IDF released a video following its bombing of the European hospital to show it was targeting ‘underground terrorist infrastructure’. They’d literally drawn on the ‘underground terrorist infrastructure’ onto a picture of the hospital.
Only problem? It wasn’t even the hospital
https://x.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1922665349201231990

Posted by: Menz | May 14 2025 22:01 utc | 215

@209 LoveDonbass
“It’s all been predestined. We’re judged on how we respond to the circumstances we face.”
Logic says that if you are able to choose how to respond, then there is no predestiny.
You could say the appearance of choice and the resulting decision are also pre-ordained, I suppose. In that case judgement (inc. punishment) would seem unfair or unnecessary.
You might also say logic and reason are only one plane of reality and exist, even as a contradiction, to other one’s. You will have difficulty forming a coherent argument without them though, having to rely instead on sentiment or similar as explanation for understanding.

Posted by: Ornot | May 14 2025 22:03 utc | 217

@Ornot | Wed, 14 May 2025 22:03:00 GMT | 217

You could say the appearance of choice and the resulting decision are also pre-ordained, I suppose.

You could, but it doesn’t change anything as long as you don’t know about your own future actions. While simply assuming a plan exists somewhere out there is a classic case for Ockham’s Razor.
Naturalism (aka deterministic materialism) has tried to prove (in fact it was simply claimed) that the plan exists, while it may remain partly unreadable. This approach is by now clearly refuted with strong arguments from maths, logic and physics, as well as correct basic epistemology.
Claiming a willed plan exists but is unreadable forces an assumption about the willing entity, usually called God. Hence LoveD is fair to name his position a belief.

Posted by: persiflo | May 14 2025 22:23 utc | 219

https://x.com/freedomrideblog/status/1922503514967646348
Margaret Kimberley @freedomrideblog
Israel murdered a child to keep him from testifying.
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1922299164970344786
Drop Site @DropSiteNews
BREAKING: Israeli Forces Kill 12-Year-Old Eyewitness to Rafah Paramedic Massacre
Mohammed Bardawil, 12, was shot and killed by Israeli forces in the Mawasi area of Gaza this week. He was one of the only four surviving eyewitnesses to the Israeli military’s execution of 15 paramedics, rescue workers, and UN staff in Rafah in March 2024.
Mohammed had testified that some of the paramedics were shot at point-blank range—“from one meter away.” He was also interviewed by The New York Times for their investigation into the massacre, though his most damning claims were omitted from their final report.
He and his father, Saeed Bardawil, were abducted by Israeli officer Major Nikolai Ashurov and his unit during the killings. The two were later forced to assist in the forced evacuation of Tal al-Sultan. The Israeli military later cited their survival as “proof” that civilians were not deliberately targeted—while failing to mention that they were spared for operational purposes.
Mohammed had been scheduled for a second round of testimony with investigators, this time with pediatric psychologists present.
Instead, the 12-year old war crime witness was killed by Israeli forces.
https://x.com/ytirawi/status/1922248604980265303
Younis Tirawi | يونس @ytirawi
Breaking News
Israeli military shot and killed 12 yo Mohammed Bardawil, a key eyewitness in our paramedic massacre investigation.
Mohammed was the sole surviving witness to the presence of Major Nikolai Ashurov & Israeli tanks during the execution of UN staff member Mr Shatout

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 14 2025 22:33 utc | 221

see the 50-second video at the link
https://x.com/ecomarxi/status/1922782747690504235
Tiberius @ecomarxi
“They’re bombing kids in Gaza and paying for it by kicking kids in the US off Medicaid”
Ben (from Ben & Jerry’s) interrupted Congress over the US genocide in Gaza 👇

Posted by: michaelj72 | May 14 2025 22:57 utc | 223

Giyane, LoveDonbass, others,
I think it would give your argument some backing if you were to explain to your audience, how money/wealth is purified in Islam via Khums (1/5), and Zakat (2.5%).
Ideas that many westerners are not familiar with.

Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | May 15 2025 1:25 utc | 225

Posted by: Ornot | May 15 2025 1:31 utc | 226
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I will attempt to give you examples to illustrate, as I understand it. Note: I am no scholar.
You watch a movie or read a book for the first time without knowing the ending. To us, the ending exists, but because we don’t know what that ending is, it is, in a sense, predetermined (the ending was decided before we engaged with the tale).
We’re judged based on how we respond to the conclusion, a conclusion that was never up to us.
Do we take a lesson from it? Do we resent it? Do we warn someone about it? Do we fall in love with it or hate it?
Instead of a book or movie, maybe it’s a marriage, disease, war, invasion, or natural disaster.
To us, the event’s occurrence and conclusion were predetermined, and we are judged by how we respond.
In Islam, every moment is predetermined, no matter how mundane or insignificant it may seem.
How we respond is the manifestation of “free will” in Islam, to my knowledge.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 15 2025 2:10 utc | 227

Arch Bungle 205
‘Tragic. For in my book, if your logic is corrupt, then your faith, morals and everything else is corrupt.’
Hang on, every single human being has a different life experience, a different code of ethics, a different DNA, a different family. How can my logic be tragic to you if I’m nothing to do with you except for frequenting a bar called MoA? God knows my details and how to 3D print me .
An example is given by Mufti Menk. A group of people are asked to write their problems on a chit of paper to be put into a Tombola, a raffle, and after mixing it, take one of the chits out of it. Each person’s problems is matched with their own skills and my problems is always going to be tragic to somebody without my skills.
You are, thankfully , not my judge, nor I, yours. Allah swt says that Mercy is written on His Heart and that He is unable to oppress His Creation, only that by the time that they reach Judgement Day, they understand Who is The4ir Lord. That’s the key: Do you or I recognise our Creator?

Posted by: Giyane | May 15 2025 3:00 utc | 229

Syriana Analysis: Trump’s Middle East
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJk0ak6k5F4
“America won’?
‘Whoever marries my mother, that man will I call my uncle.’ – Arab saying.

Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 15 2025 3:55 utc | 231

Shame on Twisted Meat Skewer, Sir Kier Starmer, that M. Macron, probably for Party political reasons , visited Rafah.
He is at least concerned enough about his electorate to show remorse for the Genocide in Gaza. Starmer is a direct accomplice in the genocide.
The guillotine can cut the head off , but it can’t cut out the heart of the Zionist Satanist who murders Muslims for pleasure.

Posted by: Giyane | May 15 2025 4:31 utc | 233

234
Phew!

Posted by: Giyane | May 15 2025 8:19 utc | 235

Even if one (like me) cannot decide upon a single “point” for the meaning of life, it does not follow that it is all pointless. Some things are simply points by (or unto) themselves.
@ persiflo | May 14 2025 22:02 utc | 216
The Qur’an says that the people of full understanding know that this world was not created for no purpose. The purpose is to test humans by good and bad in order to reward their actions instead of their words.
@ Giyane | May 14 2025 22:53 utc | 222
As each effect has many causes, not just one, every life has many meanings — most of which may elude us forever. Giyane’s reading guides the search for where meanings reside: in actions rather than words, because it is through actions that we become a new and improved person each day (and through words that we take two steps backward for every one step forward).
“Action” in this sense might get confused with “activism” — which can also be pertinent, but only as a tiny subset of all the things we do: the action of conscious being. Solitary conscientious thinking can be “action” in this sense of meaningful living, as opposed to yackety-yack.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 15 2025 9:04 utc | 237

From ZH
Netanyahu Charges Macron With ‘Despicable’ Support For Hamas As Spat Deepens
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A new Gaza-related spat is now raging between the leaders of France and Israel, amid new reports that famine is hitting the Palestinian population, which is said to be impacting 500,000 people.
French President Emmanuel Macron has called the military policies of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu “shameful” and “unacceptable” in a fresh interview with a national broadcaster.
“What the government of Benjamin Netanyahu is doing is unacceptable,” Macron began in a Gaza segment of the interview. “There is no water, no medicine, the wounded cannot get out, the doctors cannot get in. What he is doing is shameful,” he continued.
He then interestingly appeared to leverage recent reports saying that Trump-Netanyahu relations have reached a low point, and that the White House is fed up with Bib.
“We need the United States. President Trump has the levers. I have had tough words with Prime Minister Netanyahu. I got angry, but they [Israel] don’t depend on us, they depend on American weapons,” Macron said.
…
Never one to back down from a diplomatic war of words, Netanyahu hit back on Wednesday, going so far as to say that Macron stands with Hamas.
“Macron has once again chosen to stand with a murderous terrorist organization and echo its despicable propaganda, accusing Israel of blood libels,” a statement from the Israeli prime minister’s office said.
“Instead of supporting the Western democratic camp fighting the Islamist terrorist organizations and calling for the release of the hostages, Macron is once again demanding that Israel surrender and reward terrorism,” the blistering Netanyahu statement added.

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 15 2025 12:16 utc | 239

The Arabs were able to pay Trump 2.4 trillion dollars, but they couldn’t get a single loaf of bread to 2 million hungry people.
What a disgrace, what a shame.
Posted by: michaelj72 | May 15 2025 4:09 utc | 232
Posted by: sal | May 15 2025 11:29 utc | 238
To be fair, it was “protection money”, as it has been since the day Lawrence of Arabia and other important palefaces created the Gulf Arab states.
Just a regular shakedown.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 16 2025 14:04 utc | 241