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May 4, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-097
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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Niz Posted by: Menz | May 5 2025 11:36 utc | 101 No food, medical supplies, fresh water has entered Gaza in over two months………Marco Rubio silent as a church mouse ! Posted by: tobias cole | May 5 2025 12:04 utc | 102 Just hoping the Lord ain’t a crypto-Jew./s Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 5 2025 12:04 utc | 103 Spelling out the occupation plan, which is to move whole population south of Morag… Posted by: Ornot | May 5 2025 12:23 utc | 104 Alastair speaking from Professor Marandi’s office in Tehran Posted by: steel_porcupine | May 5 2025 12:46 utc | 105 Rosemary Radford Ruether (1936-2022) was a distinguished “ecofeminist theologian” — a contradiction waiting to happen, perhaps! To my reading, her 1995 study:
Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 5 2025 12:49 utc | 106 You have to agree that it is funny how Israelis keep voting for Bibi to improve “security” when it has gotten worse, way, way worse over his almost 30-year rule. Posted by: Polli | May 5 2025 13:21 utc | 107 WATCH: Israeli soldiers blow up building in Gaza for ‘gender reveal’ party Posted by: teri | May 5 2025 13:37 utc | 108 AIPAC tried this once before & it passed in the house, but failed in the senate. Posted by: Mary | May 5 2025 13:57 utc | 109 According to the plan, drawn up by the Chief of Staff and the IDF leadership and approved by the Defense Minister and Prime Minister, the IDF will increase its forces and act forcefully to defeat and subdue Hamas and destroy its military and governmental capabilities, while creating strong pressure to release all hostages. Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 5 2025 14:08 utc | 110 An Algebra of Death: Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 5 2025 14:13 utc | 111 “If this pos legislation passes, I plan to seek out & publish Ethical Alternatives to companies that support genocide! Posted by: jr | May 5 2025 14:16 utc | 112 Posted by: Mary | May 5 2025 13:57 utc | 109 Posted by: Mary | May 5 2025 14:18 utc | 113 https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/05/middleeast/israel-gaza-expansion-hnk-intl Posted by: ockham | May 5 2025 14:24 utc | 114 https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/05/middleeast/israel-gaza-expansion-hnk-intl Posted by: ockham | May 5 2025 14:24 utc | 115 Since October 7th, 2023, Israel’s war in Gaza and increasingly unquenchable thirst for war with Iran has seen the Middle Eastern country strengthen its iron-fisted grip over the U.S. political establishment. From proposed laws criminalizing antisemitism under the guise of hate speech to the expansion of the U.S.’ involvement in the Middle Eastern theater of war culminating in a direct military conflict with the Houthis in Yemen, the exponential influence of Israel on determining U.S. foreign and domestic policy alike has led to growing opposition over that imbalanced power dynamic. The extent of the blowback from the heightened visibility of the Zionist agenda steering the course of U.S. policymaking has reached new heights as the House Of Representatives decided to suspend a vote on proposed legislation that embodies Israel’s pervasive influence on the U.S. government. Posted by: ld | May 5 2025 14:30 utc | 117 Re all this chat about origins of zio-nazis and religion as a club: Phyrrus: avoid dogs and dogma. Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | May 5 2025 14:39 utc | 118 Meanwhile in Texas: Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 5 2025 14:41 utc | 119 Posted by: Polli | May 5 2025 13:21 utc | 107 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 5 2025 14:42 utc | 120 A little detail about Wikoff, given that the “Witkoff model” has been mentioned. I read that one Jack Witkoff has entered into an agreement with Eric Trump and officials from the UEA to create the Trump family’s World Liberty Financial Company, a cryptocurrency “company.” Grifting on a truly giant scale. Makes Bribem & Co look like pikers. Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | May 5 2025 14:50 utc | 121 From Ansar Allah
Gotta love it when a plan comes together. Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 5 2025 14:54 utc | 122 I have come to believe that accusations of “anti-Semitism” are essentially no different than white racist accusations of “reverse racism”. Israeli Jews not only have power over Palestine, they exert substantial levels of control over the US media and the US political caste. This, at this stage, has to be undeniable. While liberals fret about “Russian interference” in US politics, Israeli Jews are funding primary challengers for any Democrat who dares to recognize the genocide unfolding before their own eyes. Posted by: fnord | May 5 2025 14:55 utc | 123 @110 Arch Posted by: Ornot | May 5 2025 14:55 utc | 124 Friends, do not be demoralized by the claims of Israeli plans for Gaza. Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 5 2025 15:11 utc | 125 just a reminder- Settlers Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 5 2025 15:43 utc | 126 If this pos legislation passes, I plan to seek out & publish Ethical Alternatives to companies that support genocide! Posted by: dan of steele | May 5 2025 15:59 utc | 127 US corporations to note: Posted by: Exile | May 5 2025 16:44 utc | 128 Just some of the genocide enablers that MUST end up in prison – well done Albanese, you’re a credit to the UN. Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 5 2025 17:09 utc | 129 Israel Approves Full ‘Conquest’ of Gaza – Media Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 5 2025 17:35 utc | 131 Posted by: Exile | May 5 2025 16:44 utc | 128 Posted by: Mary | May 5 2025 23:24 utc | 132 “Can you read faces? Posted by: Ornot | May 6 2025 1:46 utc | 133 This website, except for spammers, is one of best breaking news sites on the web. It was the first to report the damage to the American aircraft carriers. Days before hints even started to appear on alt-news sites. Posted by: ramAustralia | May 6 2025 2:14 utc | 134 Zits panicking now Posted by: Giyane | May 6 2025 2:30 utc | 135 Palestinians who wish to live must run as fast as they can, as far away as they can from Gaza, the west bank and Israel. Posted by: just in | May 6 2025 2:37 utc | 136 Palestinians who wish to live must run as fast as they can, as far away as they can from Gaza, the west bank and Israel. Posted by: just in | May 6 2025 2:37 utc | 137 Chin up, Chen Posted by: Giyane | May 6 2025 2:45 utc | 138 The Mizrahi Perspective Posted by: ld | May 6 2025 2:47 utc | 139 just in Posted by: Giyane | May 6 2025 2:53 utc | 140 Hamas On The Record: An Exclusive Interview (podcast) Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 6 2025 3:47 utc | 141 131 JohnGilberts –“Chief of the General Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces Eyat Zamir has also announced the mobilization of tens of thousands of additional reservists.” meanwhile back at the ranch Posted by: michaelj72 | May 6 2025 4:26 utc | 143 The Houthis of Yemen are as powerless and ineffective as this website is fundamentally dysfunctional. Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 6 2025 4:30 utc | 144 Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 6 2025 3:47 utc | 144 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 6 2025 4:32 utc | 145 Posted by: Ornot | May 5 2025 14:55 utc | 124 Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 6 2025 4:33 utc | 146 ‘Call Zionists What They Are: Nazi Criminals’ Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 6 2025 4:50 utc | 147 Correction to above: Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 6 2025 4:56 utc | 148 Interesting article on Israel’s use of environmentalism as part of its project to erase the history of Palestinian settlement – and how planting foreign tree and other plant species is backfiring (literally) on Israel in the form of wildfires as rocket fire and the dust caused by explosions are igniting forests of alien plant species.
Who would have thought that Israel’s attempts to transform the Palestinian landscape would result not only in ruining its ecosystems and wasting precious water but also endangering Israel’s own cities, towns, villages and settlements? Posted by: Refinnejenna | May 6 2025 5:52 utc | 149 https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/5/5/how-rsf-is-adopting-israels-template-for-genocide-in-sudan Posted by: Tom | May 6 2025 7:00 utc | 150 Please watch this video Posted by: ld | May 6 2025 10:16 utc | 151 A positive aspect of Israel’s planned new invasion of Gaza is that it will provide Hamas with an opportunity to capture more Israeli prisoners. Posted by: Chas | May 6 2025 12:08 utc | 152 @146 Arch Posted by: Ornot | May 6 2025 13:23 utc | 153 Interesting election results in Lebanon: Posted by: teri | May 6 2025 13:35 utc | 154 From Al Manar Posted by: psychohistorian | May 6 2025 14:30 utc | 155 psychohistorian 155 Posted by: Giyane | May 6 2025 16:15 utc | 156 Posted by: teri | May 6 2025 13:35 utc | 154 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 6 2025 16:18 utc | 157 156 Posted by: Giyane | May 6 2025 16:29 utc | 158 Israel’s “occupation” plan is half-baked at best, and its loudest proponents (i.e. Smotrich) are idiots. It is tied to future approval by Trump, supposedly during a regional trip to exclusively Arab states on record as supporting a “two-state” future. Like the threats to attack Iran, the bellicosity rises according to the perceived uncertainty as to ultimate US position. Posted by: jayc | May 6 2025 16:48 utc | 159 Putin and Netanyahu have a phone conversation: Posted by: gb_grave | May 6 2025 17:38 utc | 160 I am not sure why people pretend there is such thing as judaism. The pentateuch has no resurrection whatsoever while the iraqi rabbis who produced the babylonian talmud have corporeal resurrection… like the christians and most probably under manichean influence. Posted by: Tom | May 6 2025 18:05 utc | 161 160 Posted by: Giyane | May 6 2025 18:23 utc | 162 Trump waves white flag, ends Yemen war in Omani-mediated truce: Posted by: Vortex | May 6 2025 20:03 utc | 163 Images of starvation in Gaza….shame on the elites of the world for not being able to bring in food for these people and stop the savage genocides there…. Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | May 6 2025 20:24 utc | 164 Somebody who knows the House of Saud better than I do (which would be most everyone else on the thread) might add some insight to these two articles. I can’t figure out what they are doing, but I am pretty sure it is not what Trump thinks they are doing. Posted by: teri | May 6 2025 23:06 utc | 165 Posted by: teri | May 6 2025 23:06 utc | 165 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 6 2025 23:19 utc | 166 All of this, “we want aid to resume” stuff is kabuki. One phone call is all it would take, but Trump is trying to starve out the Gazans like a NY landlord who burns down their buildings so he can evict the tenants they could not otherwise remove legally. Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 6 2025 23:22 utc | 167 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 6 2025 23:22 utc | 167 Posted by: teri | May 6 2025 23:31 utc | 168 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 6 2025 23:22 utc | 166 Posted by: teri | May 6 2025 23:32 utc | 169 So much for negotiations. Buckle your seatbelts.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 7 2025 0:15 utc | 170 teri 165 Posted by: Giyane | May 7 2025 3:17 utc | 171
No further comment necessary Posted by: Exile | May 7 2025 4:23 utc | 172 this interview is a must watch Posted by: ld | May 7 2025 7:09 utc | 173 The attitude of the world, international fora and states individually, to the genocidal US/Israel rampage with open intent to destroy the Palestinian people and everything Palestinian, to freely bomb and devastate other countries in the region (Lebanon, Syria, Yemen) and threaten others (Iran) is unique. Posted by: JB | May 7 2025 11:42 utc | 174 Just 11 states (out of 190) including Jordan, Bahrain, Turkey, Bolivia, Colombia, Honduras, Chile, Belize, Brazil, South Africa and Chad, have recalled their ambassadors to Israel or severed ties altogether. Posted by: Tom | May 7 2025 11:49 utc | 175 82, 83,84,86, etc. Shaftesbury discussion brings this to mind: News of another F-18 slipping into the drink in the Red Sea:
Assumedly post this somewhat unclear truce we hear rumours of. Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 7 2025 11:55 utc | 177 I have been scanning the information space off late, gathering the opinions of Muslims online. Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 7 2025 12:05 utc | 178 I get the impression there is a notion that “It is Allah’s will” and he will take care of it. Posted by: sal | May 7 2025 13:07 utc | 179 John Kiriakou tells about a couple who lived in Jerusalem for two years while the wife was in State Dept. This is how Mossad treated them: Posted by: teri | May 7 2025 13:08 utc | 180 @ld | May 7 2025 7:09 utc | 173
Thank you very much for providing this link. As a Norwegian citizen I have been deeply demoralized by the Norwegian media, NrK included, on many many issues. This interview however, does to my surprise the right thing of pressuring the Israeli spokesman (who by the way doesn’t stand out as a typical ‘semite’ to put it like that). Posted by: Norwegian | May 7 2025 13:17 utc | 181 Posted by: Tom | May 7 2025 11:49 utc | 175 Posted by: JB | May 7 2025 13:20 utc | 182 @Arch Bungle | May 7 2025 11:55 utc | 177
The cost is increasing:
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/18070 Posted by: Norwegian | May 7 2025 13:22 utc | 183 Gaza: Posted by: teri | May 7 2025 13:48 utc | 184 UK government’s dramatic change in stand on Israel as MPs unite to register anger |Janta Ka Reporter Posted by: ld | May 7 2025 13:58 utc | 185 Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 7 2025 12:05 utc | 178 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 7 2025 14:19 utc | 186 UK government’s dramatic change in stand on Israel as MPs unite to register anger |Janta Ka Reporter Posted by: malenkov | May 7 2025 15:25 utc | 187 A little schadenfreude anyone? Posted by: ld | May 7 2025 18:18 utc | 188 RE: “I get the impression there is a notion that “It is Allah’s will” and he will take care of it. Posted by: Trubind1 | May 7 2025 18:27 utc | 189 Organized aide gofundme sites to help feed Gaza. These are mostly local groups feeding thousands of meals. Bought from local farms & wherever they can find food. Some also gets through the siege. One is actually hosted by gofundme: Posted by: Mary | May 7 2025 20:16 utc | 190 Here is what the US and Israel are working on. It is, naturally, unacceptable to the UN and to the Palestinians and most of the NGO humanitarian groups, but since the US did so well managing Iraq, Lybia, Afghanistan, etc after bombing them to hell and back, what could possibly go wrong this time? Just because we turn everything we touch into shit and just because Israel openly says it intends to murder every last Palestinian doesn’t mean that this time won’t be all rainbows. Posted by: teri | May 7 2025 21:12 utc | 191 @ Posted by: Mary | May 7 2025 20:16 utc | 190 Posted by: teri | May 7 2025 21:20 utc | 192 Bucharest | 7 May 2025 Posted by: Mary | May 7 2025 23:11 utc | 193 ‘Widespread Grisly Murders’: Israel Kills Another Palestinian for Refusing to Spy Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 8 2025 2:51 utc | 194 Correction from above: ‘Widespread Grisly Murders’ Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 8 2025 2:54 utc | 195 Re: IDF fighter indictments Posted by: Exile | May 8 2025 5:07 utc | 196 174 JB “How can the anyone realistically expect that a world, that simply watched the systematic starvation and annihilation of the Palestinians, is going to be better.” A revolution requires democratically formulated demands. I would rather read Klein’s report as it suggests a worldwide movement would be a Poor People’s Resistance. Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 8 2025 5:32 utc | 198 Put differently, democracy is government for good times with high-trust societies. Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 8 2025 5:39 utc | 199 I was talking about revolutionary demands formulated specifically for an action to be taken by the resisting organization. You misread. Rather a consensus then, wrong word maybe. It’s a leading vanguard party, but formed by members who have agreed to and participated in one way or another in formulating its platform, the ideas that draw them in the first place. |
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