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May 4, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-097
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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Eyeless in Gaza: the preface Posted by: Walt | May 4 2025 14:34 utc | 1 Eyeless in Gaza: the preface Posted by: Walt | May 4 2025 14:34 utc | 2 https://english.almayadeen.net/news/politics/eu-president-must-face-war-crimes-charges–albanese Posted by: michaelj72 | May 4 2025 14:40 utc | 3 Posted by: Walt | May 4 2025 14:34 utc | 1 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 4 2025 14:44 utc | 4 Here is a fundraiser for the Nusairat camp: Posted by: Mary | May 4 2025 15:11 utc | 5 Here is a fundraiser (from indi.ca substack) for an extended family in Gaza: Posted by: Mary | May 4 2025 15:14 utc | 6 @ michaelj72 | May 4 2025 14:40 utc | 3 Posted by: Norwegian | May 4 2025 15:27 utc | 7 Link to list of 500 gofundme requests in Gaza. I haven’t been through the links for verified accounts. The Nusairat gofundme I linked to above is verified. It will say in the accounts whether or not they are. Posted by: Mary | May 4 2025 15:31 utc | 8 Houthi’s hit Ben Gurion…. Posted by: drinky crow | May 4 2025 15:31 utc | 9 The Empire thunders threats against Yemen, and strikes it with a hammer. Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 4 2025 16:03 utc | 10 @drinky crow | May 4 2025 15:31 utc | 10
https://t.me/RezistanceTrench/40456 Posted by: Norwegian | May 4 2025 16:10 utc | 11 Re: Complicity to Genocide Posted by: Exile | May 4 2025 16:13 utc | 12 Jerusalem is not holy ground. Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 4 2025 16:18 utc | 13 @Norwegian | May 4 2025 15:27 utc | 8
Apropos Posted by: Norwegian | May 4 2025 16:23 utc | 14 Ansar Allah does lots of targeting but not so much striking of targets. The recent missile attack on the Tel Aviv airport put Israel in a tizzy for a couple hours but the only damage appears to be a hole in the ground. Now if they had targeted the oil refinery at Haifa, with acres of oil and gasoline tanks close together,they would have caused significant damage even if the missle hit a couple hundred meters off target. For some reason AA doesn’t target the refinery. Hezbollah didn’t either. Posted by: Chas | May 4 2025 16:43 utc | 15 Zionist Israel’s army chief Eyal Zamir says the military has issued orders to call up tens of thou[sands] of reservists to expand the gen-ocide on Gaza. Posted by: pepe | May 4 2025 16:45 utc | 16 My guy, Sony Thang,
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 4 2025 16:53 utc | 17 Posted by: Chas | May 4 2025 16:43 utc | 16 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 4 2025 16:59 utc | 18 The UK, US, and France will all deploy ground troops if it gets that bad for Israel militarily. Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 4 2025 17:03 utc | 19 Posted by: Chas | May 4 2025 16:43 utc | 16 Posted by: saner | May 4 2025 17:06 utc | 20 I think many believe that Israel can be defeated militarily. They cannot. Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 4 2025 17:11 utc | 21 For on that day 2 billion minds will set forth to crush it and nothing will stand in their way. Posted by: Mary | May 4 2025 17:24 utc | 22 Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 4 2025 17:11 utc | 22 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 4 2025 17:35 utc | 23 B’s April 29th essay, The Cult That Murders Gaza, caused the usual polarizing firestorm that occurs whenever this topic is raised. It was helpful that many contributors added bits and pieces of history to the comments. But it needs more than random factoids.
Upon re-reading this, I found one thing that demonstrates no progress has been made on the “get out of jail free” card that the Zionists have for genocide:
Posted by: john brewster | May 4 2025 17:44 utc | 24 … Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 4 2025 17:50 utc | 25 Following up on the earlier post, here is some material on Israeli intelligence. The British influence throughout is notable. Posted by: john brewster | May 4 2025 18:09 utc | 26 I posted on the last Palestine thread about starvation levels in Gaza: Posted by: teri | May 4 2025 18:24 utc | 28 Repeating the set of local Palestine links…. Posted by: Ornot | May 4 2025 18:27 utc | 29 Sometimes I feel like I am being unjust, for only posting selected images of those killed/martyred by “Israel”, but it would otherwise be more posts than are posted on any thread, so I post occassionally, choosing those I think carry a clearer message to the wider world. These aren’t for regular readers really, but for those who happen to call in on the thread … Posted by: Ornot | May 4 2025 18:49 utc | 30 see the 4:23 video at the second link Posted by: michaelj72 | May 4 2025 19:05 utc | 31 The China-Iran railway is almost online. Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 4 2025 19:10 utc | 32 Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 4 2025 17:11 utc | 22 Posted by: sal | May 4 2025 19:22 utc | 33 Re: “International Law” coming to save the day: I refer readers to Caliman’s comment in today’s Open Thread. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 4 2025 19:30 utc | 34 The Yemeni Armed Forces announce a complete air blockade on the Israeli enemy in response to its decision to expand aggressive operations in Gaza. Posted by: Hankster | May 4 2025 20:07 utc | 35 And I note on Dima Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 4 2025 20:11 utc | 36 Official statement from Yemen about the air blockade
Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 4 2025 20:13 utc | 37 see the 34-second video at the first/second links Posted by: michaelj72 | May 4 2025 20:19 utc | 38
Ansar Allah is one of the best things to happen in the world. Peace and blessings to the fighters. Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 4 2025 20:27 utc | 39 Ansar Allah is goading the US into doing a ground operation. Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 4 2025 20:39 utc | 40 Posted by: john brewster | May 4 2025 17:44 utc | 25 Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 4 2025 20:47 utc | 41 The drone attack on the Freedom Flotilla vessel Conscience near Malta suggests that the war in the Middle East is moving to Europe and the Mediterranean, as I have written in my latest article, where I also cover: John Brewster Posted by: Tom | May 4 2025 21:06 utc | 43 https://tgstat.ru/en/channel/@DDGeopolitics/146614
Just one missile, so not even a saturation attack, managed to hit Israel’s main air port. Posted by: xor | May 4 2025 21:09 utc | 44 Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 4 2025 20:47 utc | 42 Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 4 2025 21:10 utc | 45 John Brewster Posted by: Minaa | May 4 2025 21:11 utc | 46 State as Evangelism in its constitution. The result is that a good number of EU countries have adopted a creationnist ideology because it would supposedly be part of their judeo-christian identity. Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 4 2025 21:37 utc | 47 https://x.com/LeylaRostami/status/1919102802367795344 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 4 2025 21:48 utc | 48
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UNTENABLE. Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 4 2025 21:51 utc | 49 Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 4 2025 20:47 utc | 42
Yes to British and Hanover, but for the others I’m not sure what you mean. Aren’t the Spanish royalty the ones who threw the Jews out? And what did Scandinavia care?
The “facts” you present are exactly why threads about Zionism get labeled anti-Semitic. I will stick to the facts I gave about Perfidious Albion. I do not endorse any of your other contributions. Posted by: john brewster | May 4 2025 21:53 utc | 50 Imagine being woken up day after day to rush to a bomb shelter that may be a false alert because it was an older gen missile that was shot down en route. LOL Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 4 2025 21:54 utc | 51 Posted by: Tom | May 4 2025 21:06 utc | 44
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Could you please give me a cite on Evangelism in the German Constitution. If you are equating evangelism with creationism, the text from EKD says that is not the case. Posted by: john brewster | May 4 2025 21:55 utc | 52 Why are Posted by: john brewster | May 4 2025 22:01 utc | 53 Posted by: Chas | May 4 2025 16:43 utc | 16 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | May 4 2025 22:01 utc | 54 Posted by: Chas | May 4 2025 16:43 utc | 16 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | May 4 2025 22:03 utc | 55 Arch Bungle 22 Posted by: Giyane | May 4 2025 22:03 utc | 56 Arch Bungle 22 Posted by: Giyane | May 4 2025 22:03 utc | 57 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 4 2025 21:54 utc | 52 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | May 4 2025 22:05 utc | 58 Wow, so Abbas is about as treasonous as he could be against his own people. Although perhaps he considers the Israelis his own people now. They probably don’t even have to pay him that much. He seems to enjoy being their attack dog. Posted by: teri | May 4 2025 22:05 utc | 59 Posted by: teri | May 4 2025 22:05 utc | 59 Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 4 2025 22:11 utc | 60 57 Posted by: Giyane | May 4 2025 22:12 utc | 61 @ LoveDonbass | May 4 2025 20:13 utc | 38 Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 4 2025 22:13 utc | 62 What comes next will likely be the chickens coming home to roost… Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 4 2025 22:29 utc | 63 The “American Experiment” is 10 degrees and 45 minutes past done. You can’t even stick a fork in it. It’s crispy. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 4 2025 22:43 utc | 64 If Ansar Allah can exemplify fearlessness, why can’t I? Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 4 2025 23:03 utc | 65
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Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 4 2025 23:09 utc | 66 The “facts” you present are exactly why threads about Zionism get labeled anti-Semitic. I will stick to the facts I gave about Perfidious Albion. I do not endorse any of your other contributions. Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 4 2025 23:27 utc | 67 Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 4 2025 23:27 utc | 70 Posted by: john brewster | May 4 2025 23:46 utc | 68 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | May 4 2025 22:18 utc | 63 Posted by: john brewster | May 4 2025 23:49 utc | 69 That’s why rationsl discusion of Zionism is so damn near impossible. Posted by: LoveDonbass | May 5 2025 0:14 utc | 70 History unambiguously testifies that Zionism originated as Christian Zionism, as propounded by profoundly anti-Semitic British evangelical fanatical followers and cohorts of Lord Shaftesbury, back in the 1840’s. Prior to Britain seizing the “Palestine mandate” as fair winnings from WWI, as divied up by Wilson’s ineradicably racist League of Nations, we had high-ranking British nutjobs proposing Palestine as the perfect place to stage Armageddon. Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 5 2025 0:38 utc | 71 I’ll add that, here at MoA as practically elsewhere, we find references to various and sundry other groups, historical to imaginary, besides the historically valid Christian origin of Zionism. Somewhat resembling a deliberate distraction from those truly responsible. I wonder why? Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 5 2025 0:49 utc | 72 Via gazanewsnow2021 Posted by: Ornot | May 5 2025 1:01 utc | 73 Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 5 2025 0:38 utc | 76 Posted by: john brewster | May 5 2025 1:56 utc | 74 see the 44-second video at the second link Posted by: michaelj72 | May 5 2025 2:05 utc | 75 History unambiguously testifies that Zionism originated as Christian Zionism, as propounded by profoundly anti-Semitic British evangelical fanatical followers and cohorts of Lord Shaftesbury, back in the 1840’s. Posted by: persiflo | May 5 2025 2:06 utc | 76 Posted by: persiflo | May 5 2025 2:06 utc | 82 Posted by: lex talionis | May 5 2025 2:18 utc | 77 Posted by: persiflo | May 5 2025 2:06 utc | 82
Posted by: john brewster | May 5 2025 2:32 utc | 78 Posted by: john brewster | May 5 2025 2:32 utc | 84 Posted by: lex talionis | May 5 2025 2:39 utc | 79 Posted by: Aleph_Null | May 5 2025 0:38 utc | 76 Posted by: Badjoke | May 5 2025 2:53 utc | 80 From Tehran! Posted by: JohnGilberts | May 5 2025 2:56 utc | 81 @82 persiflo Posted by: Ornot | May 5 2025 2:58 utc | 82 Further points to consider to some comments made by michaelj72, LDB and GoZ. Posted by: Suresh | May 5 2025 3:26 utc | 83 Posted by: lex talionis | May 5 2025 2:39 utc | 85 Posted by: john brewster | May 5 2025 3:48 utc | 84 Posted by: Ornot | May 5 2025 2:58 utc | 88
Posted by: john brewster | May 5 2025 3:56 utc | 85 Anyone been to Shaftesbury? William Wordsworth witnessed the dereliction caused by wealthy landowners , driving families off their land in order to Enclose the Land Estates of the Landed aristocracy. Posted by: Giyane | May 5 2025 3:58 utc | 86 Sorry for the double input. It is a case where we are in agreement. One does not need to facilitate botactivities more than needed. Posted by: Tom | May 5 2025 4:02 utc | 87 Regarding comments above about Gofundme, I should enlarge on what I said, I had tried to make a donation previously but when I tried to pay, the country I live and where my debit card was registered was not on the list. I wrote to them about this and other matters but did not receive any reply. I looked again last week to see if it was fixed but couldn’t come up with any Gaza charity. That was one of reasons I decided to start my own. Anyway the more there are the better, they need everything we can give them. Posted by: Walt | May 5 2025 4:30 utc | 88 @ john brewster | May 5 2025 2:32 utc | 84 with the following quote from the excerpt provided
I see the God Of Mammon cult using the monotheists to create this deadly embrace and landed “usury” aircraft carrier in ME Posted by: psychohistorian | May 5 2025 5:40 utc | 89 https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/17941 Posted by: michaelj72 | May 5 2025 6:29 utc | 90 michaelj72 91 Posted by: Giyane | May 5 2025 7:01 utc | 91 Gaza deserves death. Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 5 2025 7:36 utc | 92 The UK media reporting on a large scale anti terror operation against “Iranian’ suspects. Convenient timing. Posted by: Clem Fandango | May 5 2025 8:06 utc | 93 The UK media reporting on a large scale anti terror operation against “Iranian’ suspects. Convenient timing. Posted by: dan of steele | May 5 2025 8:26 utc | 94 George Galloway is currently in Iran: Posted by: Hamburger | May 5 2025 9:44 utc | 95 “For a colonized people the most essential value, because the most concrete, is first and foremost the land: the land which will bring them bread and, above all, dignity.” ― Frantz Fanon, The Wretched of the Earth Posted by: michaelj72 | May 5 2025 10:17 utc | 96 Barflies, does this stand scrutiny? It sounds like a missing link (for me at least). Posted by: Arch Bungle | May 5 2025 10:27 utc | 97 Trump’s new anti-boycott laws would see jail time plus a one million dollar fine. Posted by: ld | May 5 2025 11:09 utc | 98 When Trump was asked if he should uphold the Constitution of The US, Posted by: chakakhagan | May 5 2025 11:23 utc | 99 hasanabi Posted by: Menz | May 5 2025 11:35 utc | 100 |
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