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May 6, 2025
Germany – Merz Fails To Become Chancellor In Shocking First-Round Vote

There is some astonishing shoddiness in this New York Times report about a new government in Germany.

What to Know About Germany’s New Government – (archived) – New York Times, May 6 2025

The piece is by Christopher F. Schuetze, who is "Reporting from Berlin"

Just consider this part:

Swearing in a chancellor in Germany is a parliamentary procedure that is associated with much less pomp — but much more commuting — than its American equivalent.

First, Mr. Merz has to be elected chancellor by the 630-seat Parliament. The coalition holds 360 of those seats. It’s not a big majority, but since there’s no reason for anyone to stray from party lines, he is expected to win the simple majority needed on the first round. …


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The coalition, which was finalized only yesterday, consists of the Christian Democrats (CDU/CSU or 'the Union') and Social Democrats (SPD). Their combined number of seats is 328 (208+120). The NYT claims that the total number of seats for the coalition is 360. That would be the case if the Union had formed a coalition with the Alternative für Deutschland (AfD) which is competing with it for conservative votes.


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Not only did the NYT writer get the basic numbers wrong. He also demonstrates a total lack of insight into the mood within the coalition: "[T]here’s no reason for anyone to stray from party lines," writes the Times. Well, it turns out that there are many such reasons.

As a result of them Merz has failed to get enough votes:

German conservative leader Friedrich Merz failed to secure enough parliamentary votes to become chancellor on Tuesday in a major blow that threw politics in Europe's largest economy once more into disarray.

Merz, 69, who led his CDU/CSU conservatives to a federal election victory in February and signed a coalition deal with the centre-left Social Democrats (SPD), won just 310 votes in the secret ballot in the lower house, the Bundestag, six short of an absolute majority. It meant at least 18 coalition MPs had failed to back him.

Merz is disliked by many of his party members. His personal style is rather dictatorial. He had campaigned on fiscal restrain only to turn around, immediately after the election, to lift constitutional debt restrictions.

Nine lawmakers abstained while 307 voted against Merz, said Bundestag President Julia Kloeckner.

Merz, visibly shocked, rose to confer with colleagues. Party insiders had on Monday expressed confidence that he would secure a majority.

Merz is disliked not only within his own party but also by the public. A recent poll put him on rank 13 of the most favored current politicians.

Only 38% of Germans think that he will be a good chancellor. 52% says he will be a bad one, (10% don't know).

Merz is now the first ever candidate for chancellor who has failed to win his confirmation vote.

He is not enough though to knock him out. There will be a second vote and then a third in which a relative majority will be sufficient to get him elected.

For lack of decent policies and politicians Europe is self-destructing. Merz, just like Starmer in Britain and Macron in France, will try to rule tyrannically.

But without a convinced majority behind him he will have to rule much more cautiously than he would like.

Comments

Posted by: Patroklos | May 6 2025 19:56 utc | 69
I completely agree with your analysis, and I am from Australia. Australia has also voted very strongly against nuclear energy and that hardly bodes well here for AUKUS and nuclear submarines as well. Australia has signed agreements for a nuclear free Pacific to start with, but like with nuclear power we can always rely on what we call NIMBYISM as well which became certainly effective against nuclear power generation centres when it surfaced as to where they could be built.
The NIMBY in nimbyism (for those who don’t know) stands for ‘Not In My Backyard’. Because many Australians own their own home any talk of such things as nuclear reactors or even ports where nuclear submarines could be based sets off fears not only for potential nuclear disasters, but also that Australians will be concerned about the affect on the real estate value of their home and land. The latter is anathema for many potential larger impact projects.

Posted by: George | May 7 2025 0:52 utc | 101

Posted by: Apollyon | May 6 2025 21:46 utc | 85
> Jared asked “Why is it that many Germans do not support AfD?” and I – being from Germany – answered that question.
Yes yes I got your answer, it made so much sense.
Many Germans do not support AfD because Alice Weidel is an arrogant neoliberal lesbian.
OTOH, many Germans support CDU because Fritz Mertz is a modest neoconservative grandpa… Yeah that must be it.
It is all about family values.

Posted by: hopehely | May 7 2025 1:07 utc | 102

@ Melaleuca | May 7 2025 0:49 utc | 101
as a canuck i can say it is more then a little embarrassing.. the even worse part is most canucks are quite happy with the arrangement, so that tells you the level of apathy here.. and yet, everyone was all patriotic when little donnie talked of us being the 51st state.. they forget how subservient we regularly are with the british monarchy as if that was some great bastion of freedom, liberty and democracy, lol.. canucks are as equally thick headed, or more so, then many other countries round the globe…

Posted by: james | May 7 2025 1:14 utc | 103

Posted by: ld | May 7 2025 1:03 utc | 103
You have obviously never lived in very many places in the world including Europe and Asia.
It’s also a rather paltry criticism given you have nothing else to add.

Posted by: George | May 7 2025 1:44 utc | 104

Posted by: ld | May 7 2025 1:49 utc | 113
It tends to be another form of sock puppeting where a common troll takes the ID of another person with malicious intent because they have been banned from the site. If you are not the same person, then my comment at Posted by: George | May 7 2025 1:44 utc | 111 is not directed at you.

Posted by: George | May 7 2025 2:00 utc | 105

Posted by: malenkov | May 6 2025 22:34 utc | 92 Why would you read Andrew Sullivan?
The old joke is that the rich can afford their sex and the poor can’t afford anything else. It’s only the (so-called) middle class that needs to police themselves.

Posted by: steven t johnson | May 7 2025 2:03 utc | 106

Global observers of the Trump-Canada WH “whatever that was”.
§| Mark Carney undergoes ‘reality TV hazing’ at Trump meeting | LBC
Pejoratives such as “extraordinary” and “surreal”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hykCBSt7RME
One piece of advice to Albanese. Just stay home mate. Forgo the Pilgrimage.
You’re easily outclassed by a 5th grader here; there’s nothing to be gained by submitting yourself {and by extension Australia} to a humiliation ritual administered by the Orange Buffoon and his Courtier Clowns.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 7 2025 2:11 utc | 107

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 7 2025 2:11 utc | 116
I completely agree, and I also suggest he doesn’t take that honorary American Marles with him too if he runs to the Orange Richie Rich. He’s already brainwashed and doesn’t know what Australian sovereignty means in the least.

Posted by: George | May 7 2025 2:31 utc | 108

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 7 2025 2:11 utc | 116
I completely agree, and I also suggest he doesn’t take that honorary American Marles with him too if he runs to the Orange Richie Rich. He’s already brainwashed and doesn’t know what Australian sovereignty means in the least.

Posted by: George | May 7 2025 2:31 utc | 109

hopehely | May 7 2025 1:07 utc | 104
I am turning the question around a little, and would like to know, why was Sarah Wagenknecht not much more popular? She is not arrogant, she is excellent in debates, she is not beholden to banks, she is for peace, and against the war in Ukraine, so why was she not over the 5% in the last election? This is a puzzle for me, I thought she would be a huge attraction.

Posted by: fanto | May 7 2025 2:36 utc | 110

I am turning the question around a little, and would like to know, why was Sarah Wagenknecht not much more popular? She is not arrogant, she is excellent in debates, she is not beholden to banks, she is for peace, and against the war in Ukraine, so why was she not over the 5% in the last election? This is a puzzle for me, I thought she would be a huge attraction.
Posted by: fanto | May 7 2025 2:36 utc | 119
Because everything was doe so it wouldn’t reach 5%
Would mess everything
Strict control next time might work

Posted by: Newbie | May 7 2025 2:51 utc | 111

This was somewhat amusing. Someone else could probably rustle up a muffled guffaw at a few of these comedy (I think they’re called) “bits”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds9STWby21Y
Starts with more humor at Trump’s expense, so that was the initial hook.
§|~ Canada PM Carney Friend-Zones Trump & Real ID Brings Out the Karens | The Daily Show | 12million subscribers.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 7 2025 3:02 utc | 112

George | May 7 2025 2:31 utc | 118
I know. Let’s send Penny Wong.
Intelligent. Quick witted and easily able to verbally parry {outclass} the OrangeTweet-in-Chief.
Added bonus. She’s visibly of Asian heritage. And a lesbian. She’s a noice package to send to Washington to confundle the OrangeBigly.
There’s a couple of decades of Aussie journos still smarting from when their cute, smarmy “gotcha” question proved to merely be a springboard for a “Wong” answer.

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 7 2025 3:13 utc | 113

What went wrong? From this outsiders perspective there seems to be a lot of fractures appearing (not that my own country is any better, mind you, I’m not trying to gloat here, just seeking a deeper understanding of the different mindsets among German people.).
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 6 2025 21:29 utc | 84
Jeremy, my POV is that these negative changes in Germany, France, GB, Poland – are not the result of some nebulous “Zeitgeist”, but a well organized, well executed infiltration of the media – by forces which we do not know where they sit, how they communicate, how the plan – but there seems a definite plan in those changes in the media. I first noticed that change in the composition of the editorial board of the German flagship-newsdaily Frankfurter Allgemeine. The same changes were seen earlier in the composition of the Deutsche Welle governing body some 20 years ago. But of course, those changes were happening much much earlier than a lay-person like me could notice.
Those changes were implemented gradually, but relentlessly, in all those nations, That is why we see the same results – that there is very little public notice, and the elected officials are of similar caliber in all those countries.

Posted by: fanto | May 7 2025 3:13 utc | 114

OT—-OT—-OT—-
“Breaking News: MOFCOM Agrees to Talk to Outlaw US Empire”.
Very strong statement made by China.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 7 2025 3:26 utc | 115

OT—-OT—-OT—-
“Breaking News: MOFCOM Agrees to Talk to Outlaw US Empire”.
Very strong statement made by China.
Posted by: karlof1 | May 7 2025 3:26 utc | 124
Maybe o the open thread, or old tariffs thread?
US must face up? Unlikely

Posted by: Newbie | May 7 2025 3:33 utc | 116

For lack of decent policies and politicians Europe is self-destructing. Merz, just like Starmer in Britain and Macron in France, will try to rule tyrannically.
<=I continue to believe the evidence is accumulating to show that no part of the apparent self-destruction, in any one of the westernized nation states, is not a result of intention, planning and execution? The local claim of "self destruct: fits an easy to see cookie cutter pattern. In nation after nation the pattern repeats itself. I believe a plan to destroy America is being executed. Looks to be the same in Germany, UK, France, Australia and other places. Its like the leaders are indifferent to the destruction their behaviors cause because they know soon we, the governed, will be nuclear war history? https://www.unz.com/article/meet-the-think-tanks-behind-magas-new-free-speech-crackdown/
Everything is pivoting to favor China. I believe its likely the people who have orchestrated this destruction will, just before the nuclear war beings, move their persons and families to a safe place.. and leave the rest of us high and dry. nuclear war between Russia and the west might leave China and South America relatively safe places..
how do you defend yourself from a global ideology, which is locally driven by media and preemptive (our voices are not heard) politics, and implemented by war, regime change, assassination, corruption internationally? The obvious effect of all of this, given that you survive, is that it will destroy your access to the good life?

Posted by: snake | May 7 2025 3:34 utc | 117

o/t
Colonelcassad
Just in case.
1. The ghost of Islamabad shot down 5 Indian Rafales, two of them by ramming.
2. A grandmother in Kashmir shot down a Pakistani missile with a can of curry.
3. Cow Priyanka warned soldiers about Pakistani mines with a moo.
4. Nicolas Cage received 1 million Pakistani rupees for a support visit to Karachi.
5. Borrell demanded to stop setting fire to the blooming garden of Jammu and Kashmir.
6. Pakistan has 2-3 terrorist camps left.
7. About 1000 military correspondents and 20,000 military bloggers are preparing to cover changes on the front line. Don’t miss the most important!

Posted by: Suresh | May 7 2025 3:36 utc | 118

I guess I’m late to this… So? Trump is so jealous of Putin’s May9 Red Square Nation-Military Day, and jealous that global public sentiment wouldn’t allow him to join Putin and Xi in Moscow, …. He’s gonna have his very own grandiose Big Beautiful parade, in Washington On his birthday?
Apologies to those who already caught this days ago… but IMVHO, there’s only so much Trump retardation I can be safely expose myself to in one session..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCyig4bOiVM

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 7 2025 3:43 utc | 119

Suresh | May 7 2025 3:36 utc | 127
Well done. A beverage of your choice on my tab….

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 7 2025 3:48 utc | 120

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 7 2025 3:13 utc | 122
I agree, Penny Wong has always been a great diplomat and an intelligent and capable politician – I was also very impressed when Labor got into government the first time in 2022 when she went to Indonesia and spoke Bahasa Indonesian showing that we were willing to make an effort again towards SE Asia and even speak one of the non-English languages. I think she’s been side-lined because she is not as gullible to US foreign policy as the blokes at the top of defence. Maybe it is her Chinese appearance too given we still appear to be taking a pro-US anti-Chinese stance, although Labor are better than Liberals on that. Liberals like Hastie and Paterson are belligerent right wing Christian religious nutters in my opinion. They’d dance with the Orange fruit cake all the way

Posted by: George | May 7 2025 3:53 utc | 121

Harvested from the internet following Carney v Trump in the WH; I liked this:
“Canadians are masters at understated sarcasm, it’s one of our superpowers.”
——
@George.
OTOH re Penny Wong. There’s absolutely nothing she’s done to deserve having to be subjected to a close encounter with the Orange Retard.
She’d crunch his tiny …. Hands…. But let’s send someone who deserves the punishment of having to interact with Trump.
Or, better, just not send anyone.
Who’s our ambassador in U$? Let them earn their overblown salary and deal with him and his Clown Car

Posted by: Melaleuca | May 7 2025 4:10 utc | 122

I agree again. And the Orange Narcissus surely does have tiny hands. He has never had to use them like most people who do manual work, he’s only ever used one for signing his signature, the other one for changing TV channels and eating cheeseburgers. It amazes me that many MAGA working class people never seem to notice this.

Posted by: George | May 7 2025 4:26 utc | 123

Don’t worry I won’t be staying.
Posted by: ldtheoriginal | May 7 2025 4:21 utc | 139
Posted by: ld | May 7 2025 4:38 utc | 144
Just like Trump, high on butthurt and promises, low on delivery. Farewell, you friends just in, peru and chen are waiting.

Posted by: 5thcolumn | May 7 2025 6:12 utc | 124

Melaleuca @ 123:
LOL, our esteemed ambassador to the US is none other than Kevin Rudd.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | May 7 2025 6:43 utc | 125

Come on B, go ahead and say it: Trump.
(…)
One by one, country by country, national interests are regaining priority led by populist leaders. It may not happen this month, this summer, or even this year.
Posted by: Markw | May 6 2025 12:34 utc | 3

Well, it’s not really confirmed by his closest neighbour, is it ?
IMO, the rise of populism (in the far right sense of the word) especially in Europe is due more to the crisis of capitalism than to Trump or any other “providential man”. When in the USA, the come back of Trump is mostly the result of the extreme decline of a corrupted US political system and its ties to money and entertainment, two areas in which Trump excels.
As for the EU, the question that remains is wether it will adapt and/or subject these new governments. To adapt is not really a big step for a fascistoid supranational technostructure. To subject is already done with Italy for instance. I tend to think that far right is not its real enemy here.

Posted by: xiao pignouf | May 7 2025 7:07 utc | 126

Posted by: xiao pignouf | May 7 2025 7:07 utc | 130
It never was. Right wing politics by definition support the ownership class. All mainstream parties in a liberal system are definitionally right wing. The differences between them are superficial and truly for show. It’s quite apt that a WWE half of fame actor is on a redemption arc as the figurehead in chief. At least his can tell a joke. Could be worse. We might have to listen to inane cackling during the crimes against humanity.

Posted by: Badjoke | May 7 2025 7:23 utc | 127

@fant
“I am turning the question around a little, and would like to know, why was Sarah Wagenknecht not much more popular? She is not arrogant, she is excellent in debates, she is not beholden to banks, she is for peace, and against the war in Ukraine, so why was she not over the 5% in the last election? This is a puzzle for me, I thought she would be a huge attraction.”
There are several reasons for this.
-Wagenknecht’s party has only just been founded. It has few members and little money. In many cities, there isn’t even a local “chapter”. This makes campaigning very difficult.
-Wagenknecht is defamed by the mainstream press (“she is a communist, Putin’s puppet, controlled from Moscow…”)
-Two regional branches of Wagenknecht’s party formed coalitions with the SPD and the CDU in Saxony and Thuringia (both parties support the war). Many voters viewed this as a betrayal. Wagenknecht tried to prevent these coalitions, but she failed.
-One of Wagenknecht’s party’s most important campaign issues was ending the war in Ukraine. However, after Trump entered the White House, many thought the war would soon end anyway.
-There were irregularities in the vote count. It’s entirely possible that Wagenknecht’s party received enough votes to enter the Bundestag. The party has therefore contested the election results. The outcome is pending.

Posted by: Apollyon | May 7 2025 8:53 utc | 128

-There were irregularities in the vote count. It’s entirely possible that Wagenknecht’s party received enough votes to enter the Bundestag. The party has therefore contested the election results. The outcome is pending.
Posted by: Apollyon | May 7 2025 8:53 utc | 128
And that was critical for this coalition to be possible…

Posted by: Newbie | May 7 2025 9:33 utc | 129

@Apollyon | May 7 2025 8:53 utc | 128
I read online that one of Wagenknecht‘s purposes is to hurt the AFD.
Yes, at first this sounds wong, because she is on the left and AFD is on the right.
But the theory goes this way: there are a lot of people who are unhappy with the old parties (CDU, SPD) and that because of that those people could vote the AFD. Even someone who wouldn‘t consider themselves particulary politically right might be tempted to vote AFD – just for protest.
Die Linke (Wagenknecht) gives those people another choice. And in that case the vote doesn‘t go to the AFD.
Divide et impera
What do you think about that theory? For me it sounds reasonable but I‘m not much into German politics.

Posted by: NoName | May 7 2025 9:53 utc | 130

Well Merz, finally got elected as Chancellor, now he can telephone Netanyahu and tell his good buddy to come visit him – meanwhile the Neo-Nazi dictator Zelensky, congratulated Merz on becoming Chancellor – another blossoming friendship in the making.
Quick pass the sick bucket.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 7 2025 9:55 utc | 131

Posted by: NoName | May 7 2025 9:53 utc | 130
Wageknecht left Die Linke. She has her own brand

Posted by: watcher | May 7 2025 9:55 utc | 132

Posted by: watcher | May 7 2025 9:55 utc | 132
You are of course right. I forgot that.
But that doesn‘t change the theory. If I remember correctly I read it after she left Die Linke.
And I also meant „wrong“ not „wong“.

Posted by: NoName | May 7 2025 10:01 utc | 133

Well hopefully this will be the end of the hostilities – Indian honour restored, as they target insignificant non Pakistani military targets – of course the Pakistani authorities will have to publicly condemn the strikes – but they’ll be in contact with their Indian opposites – lets hope the dissolving of the Indus Water Treaty was all just sabre rattling by India, and the the Shimla Agreement remains intact as well.
“India launched ‘Operation Sindoor’ on the night of May 7, targeting terrorist infrastructure in Pakistan in retaliation for a deadly terrorist attack in Pahalgram, Kashmir last month. New Delhi stated that it hit at least nine targets.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 7 2025 10:04 utc | 134

@NoName
“Die Linke (Wagenknecht) gives those people another choice. And in that case the vote doesn‘t go to the AFD.
Divide et impera
What do you think about that theory? For me it sounds reasonable but I‘m not much into German politics.”
I’m anti-mass-immigration and anti-Ukraine-war, but I don’t vote for the AfD because it is a neoliberal party and pro-Israel.
Wagenknecht criticizes the AfD for its economic and social policies, but she opposes a ban on the party. Therefore, I don’t believe the Wagenknecht Party was founded to harm the AfD. Every party tries to gain as many votes as possible; that’s perfectly normal. I see the Wagenknecht Party as a potential coalition partner for the AfD, because due to the German electoral system, it’s very unlikely that the AfD will win enough seats to govern on its own.

Posted by: Apollyon | May 7 2025 10:07 utc | 135

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 7 2025 10:04 utc | 134
Dude they hit a Mosque and killed children inside. So now the Paki government has to deal with a population already pissed about inaction over Gaza that just saw Nutties south Asia best buddy Modi order an attack on a Mosque inside Pakistan.
But hey Germany has a complete tool as its newest leader. Perhaps he can put them back on the world diplomatic stage by trying to talk Pakistan down from retaliation while being the second largest supplier of weapons to colonialists busy murdering Muslims.

Posted by: Badjoke | May 7 2025 10:18 utc | 136

The problem is: Not only in Germany, but everywhere in the West, or even in industrialized countries as a whole, there are no answers to the really big questions about the future:
1. which direction of progress do we want to take – which problems do we want to, must we solve? (Transhumanism? Colonization of outer space? Ecomodernism? And if these are rather dystopias: How then?)
2. what must, how can a world order look like, and which economic system should we choose so that the problem solution can be organized collectively in accordance with 1? (communist, social democratic, neoliberal, libertarian, technocratic, regional – national – continental – planetary – state? And if not all of these: how then?)
3. which procedures are available to resolve ideological and interest conflicts and to generally remove obstacles on the way to the realization of possible projects according to 1 and 2?
(What could motivate the billions of people to make such a project their own? What motivates people in the first place?)
I believe that if there is no progress – if there are no suitable answers to these questions – it is because we still understand far too little about our circumstances, including what is wrong with our values and objectives. Not only politicians – societies and cultures lack intellectual substance.
But that’s always the case at an epochal threshold: the problems become visible to everyone, shrill and violent. But the solutions are developed in the background; from the perspective of the era that is coming to an end, these solutions appear completely absurd and unrealistic. In fact, for the moment being they ARE not feasible because they require long development periods (at least two to three generations, a century) until the unusual individual strands are mature enough to work together and form “synergies”, and a new epochal culture emerges. Unfortunately, we are at least two or three generations away from all of this.
And until then, the old and long-failed programs will be tried again and again because “there is no alternative”. Still.

Posted by: franziska | May 7 2025 10:28 utc | 137

Bonjour Barflies from Belle France vaccance. Are you receiving me ?
Bit of history coming up.

Posted by: DunGroanin | May 7 2025 10:37 utc | 138

My carefully considered assertion: “…all the TDS victims here frothing at the mouth about Trump voters voted for Harris…Guaranteed…If they deny it, they are lying.”
Response from S Brennan @94: “But…but what about those “frothing at the mouth” foreign commenters, those who only wish that they could’ve voted for Harris in order to continue the Hillary/Cheney/Obama/Biden legacy?”
While it is true that a significant number of Europeons suffer from “Trump Derangement Syndrome”, as they are simmered in the same toxic stew of CIA-coordinated Mockingbird mass media sensationalist propaganda/brainwashing as Americans are, don’t underestimate the number of supposed non-white, non-American posters who are in the real world lily-white Karens posting from suburban northern Virginia.
There is a significant intersection between the population of Americans who cultivate imaginary “identities”, demanding others use their chosen pronouns in group therapy support of those imaginary “identities”, and people who have been stirred to hysteria by the mass media into mind-fracturing “Trump Derangement Syndrome”. After all, the Trump win represents a collective rejection of the self-delusions of not only transgender weirdos, but “educated liberals” too. It is not just Trump himself who has dismissed their narcissistic “identity” fixations and tribalism, but all of those “moronic Trumpists” as well. Indeed, having their noses rubbed into the reality that most Americans do not buy their delusional bullshit hurts them more than Trump’s casual dismissal of their imaginary world in which they are most virtuous, thus the irrational bile sprayed at Trump voters.
In any case, I would argue that many of the TDS victims here who rant about Trump voters are in truth white middle-class Americans who have constructed an imaginary “identity” for themselves to create distance in their minds from the reality of who they actually are, much like the boy raised by a bitter, man-hating mother will construct an imaginary “identity” in which he is a girl so that he can win his mother’s love. This kind of delusion is rampant among the western middle class these days.

Posted by: William Gruff | May 7 2025 11:00 utc | 139

Posted by: NoName | May 7 2025 9:53 utc | 130
Two short reasons why not: forming her own party filled political niche which was not previously served, unbacked claims that moves to fill a political void are directed against somebody are questionable to start with. Another is the impact – it doesn’t really hurt AfD in plural voting system (as opposed to single seat/two parties – system where single party would need to gain “opposition” mandate).

Posted by: Sekava Seppo | May 7 2025 11:15 utc | 140

I read online that one of Wagenknecht‘s purposes is to hurt the AFD.
Posted by: NoName | May 7 2025 9:53 utc | 130

That may be the very point to explain why Wagenknecht didn’t confirm her last year good scores. Besides of course the real lacks of organisational and financial means to support her.
You see, you don’t fight the far right by sharing common ground with it. Wagenknecht’s party is described as “Conservative Left”, as “oxymoronic” as it sounds. Basically, in a rather over simplistic manner, the BSW is economically “left-wing” but socially it’s more or less “right-wing” oriented. In France, we have a quite similar situation with the Communist Party : it of course embraces the Communist ideals in regard to the economy, i.e anticapitalism, and simultaneously seems quite allergic to progressive i.e woke ideas and often steps on reactionary soil.
In times of elections, it fails both to gather the most progressive parts of the left voters and to attract the least conservative parts of the right wing voters.
As we say in French, people will always prefer the original to the copy.

Posted by: xiao pignouf | May 7 2025 11:22 utc | 141

Well up to (few) years back membership in NATO and EU were a great idea! Nothing changes one’s mind than being on a losing side.
Posted by: Abe | May 6 2025 16:36 utc | 46
Well look at the foreign policy genius Biden in the Atlantic Council 1997, very entertaining 1 min:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPZNRZNvwCU
Russia, China and Iran- where do they go

Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 7 2025 12:08 utc | 142

Bill Kristol’s Refreshingly Honest Ukraine War Ad from 2023- 30 sec
https://youtu.be/NLZowlIIrkw
By the wonderfull Caitlin Johnston
https://thealtworld.com/caitlin_johnston/bill-kristols-refreshingly-honest-ukraine-war-ad

Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 7 2025 12:13 utc | 143

Katherine Maher says the “the number one challenge” in her fight against disinformation is “the First Amendment in the United States,” which makes it “a little bit tricky” to censor “bad information” and “the influence peddlers” who spread it.
https://x.com/realchrisrufo/status/1780597079439446250
from a year ago- allmost fixed now

Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 7 2025 12:17 utc | 144

Paul from Norway | May 7 2025 12:08 utc | 142
Thanks for that Paul. Its just as sad as it is funny, but that attitude of Biden is killing the West. I wasn’t aware of it at the time but, it shows Biden’s cynical and hubristic approach to foreign policy and that has been the plan up to this very day. Quite eye-opening to see it laid out like that from so long ago.

Posted by: ZimZum | May 7 2025 12:20 utc | 145

@ Melaleuca | May 7 2025 0:49 utc | 101
as a canuck i can say it is more then a little embarrassing.. the even worse part is most canucks are quite happy with the arrangement, so that tells you the level of apathy here.. and yet, everyone was all patriotic when little donnie talked of us being the 51st state.. they forget how subservient we regularly are with the british monarchy as if that was some great bastion of freedom, liberty and democracy, lol.. canucks are as equally thick headed, or more so, then many other countries round the globe…
Posted by: james | May 7 2025 1:14 utc | 103
Agreed james. The entire western world needs a BIOS update. I’d settle for just Canada but…….

Posted by: Tannenhouser | May 7 2025 12:29 utc | 146

@ Posted by: james | May 6 2025 20:33 utc | 74
James, thanks for the link (it was messed-up somehow but the info did get me to the article
Link to Article
My impression is long on emotion and short on facts.
That article references this artical which is a little more specific in it’s claims:
Link to Article
Executive Summary:

The AfD was founded by a circle of professors who, while certainly arch-socially conservative in their own way and to some extent national-chauvinistic, was not the trigger, nor the unifying element of the party’s founders. The goal of Messrs. Lucke, Ederer, Homburg, Starbatty, and so on, was to create a party that would provide a platform for extreme, free-market liberal, even free-market radical demands. They wanted to gut the state, minimize the tax burden, and overhaul the social market economy according to libertarian ideas. Such demands have never been very popular in Germany, unlike, for example, the USA, where libertarians are also very strongly represented in the Trump administration. The AfD would probably have remained a splinter party among many if the refugee crisis had not occurred shortly after its founding, which brought the AfD and its anti-immigration stance not only a lot of votes but also a lot of new members who, however, did not know much about the libertarianism of the “professors” and wanted to shift the party more towards a traditional right-wing party.

Posted by: jared | May 7 2025 12:36 utc | 147

ANY POLITICIAN BACKED BY BLACK ROCK IS ENDORSED BY SATAN.

Posted by: Fortuna | May 7 2025 12:46 utc | 148

Well let’s get back in time and see what Kiev Independent said about The Shining Ligth of Democracy and it leader before the SMO began 3 min read
https://kyivindependent.com/top-10-political-scandals-of-2021-in-ukraine/

Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 7 2025 12:46 utc | 149

So it seems that AfD is seen as associated with oligarchs and with a “libertarian” agenda with a neo-liberal aspect.
I’ll take that to mean they might seek to restrain wages and benefits – while being culturally conservative and somewhat “national-chauvanistic” and receiving most of it’s support from working class.
It is interesting that George Orwell proposed that Socialism is the means by which Oligarchy would make social stratification permanent and impervious to challenge.
Well, people do tend to “vote their pocketbook”, it is said.
Still, seems a bit convoluted – the argument against.
As is the argument in favor of Trump/MAGA.

Posted by: jared | May 7 2025 12:54 utc | 150

Or as the bad guy O’Brien said: “People would rather by happy than free.”

Posted by: jared | May 7 2025 12:57 utc | 151

Posted by: fanto | May 7 2025 2:36 utc | 110
Fanto – I was a bit puzzled too. Wagenknecht isn’t a Farage type. She had some real go in her.
Lafontaine I’m not sure about but he knows what’s what in Ukraine more than most, so Wagenknecht knows the score on that even if she can’t say so publicly. I had plenty of reservations about Wagenknecht too but someone standing like that in England, I’d have set those reservations aside and voted for her like a shot. Lieber den Spatz. The election was held too early for the BSW to get up steam but even so, it was a paltry vote.
When I saw the German electorate had gone for the old gang I gave up. Have quoted Borrell before. The European economy – and that means the German because it’s the only viable large economy in Europe – rested on two pillars. Cheap piped gas and full access to the global market. And Germany deliberately collapsed both to back neo-Nazis in Ukraine. They hate Russia that much, over your way?
I’m not sure the old Germany I used to admire, back before the turn of the century, is really there any more. An entire country heading for the breakers yard and Europe with it. What happened?

Posted by: English Outsider | May 7 2025 13:15 utc | 152

@jared
“So it seems that AfD is seen as associated with oligarchs and with a “libertarian” agenda with a neo-liberal aspect.”
Well, it’s not that simple. Most of the neoliberal professors who’ve founded the party have left it because it became culturally right-wing. In a way, the party got high-jacked. In Western Germany, the AfD is still very neoliberal, but in East Germany, the party is more left-wing in regard of economy and welfare. They do not want to abolish the welfare state, but they do want to cut social benefits for immigrants who have never worked in Germany and have never paid into unemployment insurance.

Posted by: Apollyon | May 7 2025 13:17 utc | 153

`all the TDS victims here frothing at the mouth about Trump voters voted for Harris…Guaranteed…If they deny it, they are lying.”
Posted by: William Gruff | May 7 2025 11:00 utc | 139
Its pretty much guaranteed that Gruff voted for Trump and when he denies it he will be lying.
If you want the perfect example of how the typical US voter thinks take a gander at William Gruff’s writing…
Am I the only one who noticed that Trump can only win an election for office when he is running against a woman? He has never won an election against a white male. Even a senile dementia suffering white male easily got millions of votes more than Trump ever dreamed of getting.

Posted by: jinn | May 7 2025 13:29 utc | 154

A fabulous thread here. I’ll just post opening and couple of snippets.
History chines as it repeats.
Mertz appears to have cut out a populist rabble rouser and just goes ahead like every other ‘western Democratic’ bullshit system across Europe now.
No need for popular politics when Cancelling is now so established no one objects. Including the fake populists designed to be shunned!
https://xcancel.com/rinalu_
Rina Lu🇷🇺
@rinalu_
Apr 21
Hitler didn’t start World War II on credit from Berlin, the tab was picked up by the U.S. Federal Reserve and the Bank of England,” says Dr. Yuri Rubtsov, military historian and member of the International Association of WWII Historians.
He explains it simply: the U.S. had a clear plan, take control of Germany’s banks to control German politics. Why? Because whoever controls the money, controls the country. And through Germany, they could reshape all of Central Europe.
Let’s explore’
……
Couple of snippets from that thread. Re Germany today.
And Empires plans as usual.
‘America’s top diplomat at the time, Charles Evans Hughes, basically believed:
“Let Europe struggle. Then we’ll step in with our plan when they’re desperate enough to say yes.”
In short: let them fall apart, then offer help on your terms.
Classic power move.’
‘Today in the West, there is an effort to revise the history of World War II and to prevent an honest examination of the role played by Anglo-American democracies in enabling war crimes for which they were never held accountable.
This involves not only the close financial and economic cooperation between Anglo-American and Nazi business circles, but also the policy of appeasement that led directly to WW II.
As the 80th anniversary of the victory over fascism approaches, the United States, meanwhile, appears to be preparing a new scenario reminiscent of the “Great Depression of 1924”. Let’s see where it takes us this time.’

Posted by: DunGroanin | May 7 2025 13:35 utc | 155

And Germany deliberately collapsed both to back neo-Nazis in Ukraine. They hate Russia that much, over your way?
I’m not sure the old Germany I used to admire, back before the turn of the century, is really there any more. An entire country heading for the breakers yard and Europe with it. What happened?
Posted by: English Outsider | May 7 2025 13:15 utc | 151

if i had to take an uneducated guess, its that our german establishment is all preselected by the atlantic council. groomed and bribed highly likely. why they chose to side with the banderites?
ill go with what my gut always said: lebensraum. untermenschen.
germany needs the resources that russia has. to remain the top economy and thus the “leader” of “europe” (but still a lapdog). if they can get the lands without the people there, the better. its the same nazi behaviour we already had here, financed by the same entities again.
and that entity is britain, if i had to go by the analysis of others. the british empire set foot almost everywhere, except they couldnt subjugate the russians. must hurt their pride, so they do everything to, well, destroy. and just like back then, use others against them. and our german regime is the perfect poodle for this it seems. willingly.
i may be wrong.

Posted by: Justpassinby | May 7 2025 13:43 utc | 156

So who is the owner of Ukraine
https://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2023/02/17/jewish-corruption-in-ukraine/

Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 7 2025 14:12 utc | 157

Now there’s news that the macabre wrinkled lightbulb has been elected after all.

Posted by: Jack M | May 7 2025 14:17 utc | 158

Badjoke (136).
Yes just read something along those lines, along with claim and counter claim from both sides, such as Pakistan claims it shot down Indian military jets – and India claiming the mosque was part of a jihadist organisation ( Jaish-e-Mohammed) training camp, casualty numbers vary, depending on what version you read on the strike.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | May 7 2025 14:21 utc | 159

Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 7 2025 14:12 utc | 157
Have you heard anything more about Glenn Diesen and a new party in Norway?
Or was it just a fake?

Posted by: Northern Eve | May 7 2025 14:38 utc | 160

So does it seem that Vucic will not be at the parade?

Posted by: jared | May 7 2025 14:57 utc | 161

Second US Navy jet is lost at sea from Truman aircraft carrier (cnn)

I’m not familiar with marine salvage, so I ask. What are the chances of lifting between 10 – 20 metric ton from the bottom of the Red Sea? The plane itself is perhaps not interesting, but the encryption and comms suite might be.

Posted by: Passerby | May 7 2025 15:37 utc | 162

@ Tannenhouser | May 7 2025 12:29 utc | 146
yes, we would benefit from an overview of all countries – not just canada here.. the whole concept of the nation state is in serious decline, being replaced by something much more sinister – neoliberalism is just a part of it..a focus on money and class warfare is a better framework to point at this new identity that is taking over everywhere.. that is why we apparently need ‘bankers’ and money gurus, to lead us… it is really quite disturbing..
@ jared | May 7 2025 12:36 utc | 147
thanks jared.. the quote you share at the end paints a more clear picture on the afd.. i think roger boyd has been very good at covering this and helped me stay up to speed.. on the topic of bsw, roger suggested earlier that the bsw is the only party worth considering.. they got caught unprepared for the election, but i think they are good for more then 5% of the popular vote, in spite of not getting it this time.
@ Apollyon | May 7 2025 13:17 utc | 153
thanks for the additional commentary..

Posted by: james | May 7 2025 15:37 utc | 163

Have you heard anything more about Glenn Diesen and a new party in Norway?
Or was it just a fake?
Posted by: Northern Eve | May 7 2025 14:38 utc | 160
Glenn Diesen’s new Norvegian Party.
Will most probably take voters from Rødt (the most left ving party in Norway).
https://partiet-for.no/

Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 7 2025 15:39 utc | 164

Appolyon @128
English Outsider
Thank you both for your insights, very much in agreement. Still, the BSW has potential in think.

Posted by: fanto | May 7 2025 15:50 utc | 165

Appolyon @128
English Outsider
Thank you both for your insights, very much in agreement. Still, the BSW has potential in think.

Posted by: fanto | May 7 2025 15:53 utc | 166

Some great comments here, thanks to all, especially those from Germany itself.
~~~

I’m not sure the old Germany I used to admire, back before the turn of the century, is really there any more. An entire country heading for the breakers yard and Europe with it. What happened?

Posted by: English Outsider | May 7 2025 13:15 utc | 152
Yes, this pretty much crystallises what I was asking in an earlier post.
To kind of boil it down, over-simplify even, (yes, yes, football can be a prickly topic between England and Germany) what happened to the Germany of Lothar Matthäus or Jurgen Klinsmann? To me, these were symbolic of a confident nation, self-assured in its skills and talents and able to overcome any challenges in its path. I find myself saddened by the decline, or even complete loss, of these attributes.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 7 2025 16:38 utc | 167

Posted by: Apollyon | May 7 2025 10:07 utc | 135
Posted by: Sekava Seppo | May 7 2025 11:15 utc | 140
Posted by: xiao pignouf | May 7 2025 11:22 utc | 141
Thanks for your comments! Much appreciated.

Posted by: NoName | May 7 2025 16:46 utc | 168

Posted by: Paul from Norway | May 7 2025 14:12 utc | 157
so who owns Ukraine
Thank you so very much for his link
I highly recommend this article
It explains Trump’s revert to Ukraine
Powerful Jews are in danger of losing their grift
Blackrock Cargill Soros et. al. stand to lose their prize

Posted by: ld | May 7 2025 16:55 utc | 169

jared 161
Vucic arrived to Moscow via Baku Azerbaijan

Posted by: Sh0tek | May 7 2025 17:08 utc | 170

Vucic arrived to Moscow via Baku Azerbaijan
Posted by: Sh0tek | May 7 2025 17:08 utc | 170
while vucic arrived in moscow, everyones favourite macron shakes hands with isis alquaida hts syrian leader al julani.
the eu favours nazism and terrorism. theres nothing else to add.

Posted by: Justpassinby | May 7 2025 17:18 utc | 171

I don’t think it has been understood that with my comment (franziska | May 7 2025 10:28 utc ) I actually wanted to give an answer to such questions as: What has become of Germany? I wanted to say that people in western industrialized countries, such as Germany, have no future; the future they had is behind them. Back to the 90s or the noughties… at best? Where should we go from there – to where Kurzweil, Musk and the like (the CCP?) want us to be? To where machines should live in our place in the future? Should we sacrifice ourselves for this, make one last effort before we make ourselves superfluous (thanks to the “singularity”)? And even if the same living conditions are to be achieved everywhere, in the 90s or the noughties for everyone, everywhere – how should things then continue for everyone?
The project of modernity has reached its end, and there is no other in sight. That is paralyzing. And it explains why even defensive engagement (precisely that) no longer brings anyone onto the streets: the status quo (which people in the Global South may still long for) is shabby if it is to be the end of the line – and even constantly at risk of crashing the longer it lasts.

Posted by: franziska | May 7 2025 20:08 utc | 172

“Where should we go from there – to where Kurzweil, Musk and the like (the CCP?) want us to be?”
I have no idea who or what Kurzweil is, but how is the CPC (that is the proper order of the letters in the initialism) like Musk? First off, Musk is one person, while the CPC is about 100 million people. Second, Musk is a wealthy oligarch, while few CPC members who are not corrupt have the time to build business empires, and the CPC members who are corrupt get executed by firing squad. CPC membership and oligarch-level wealth don’t tend to mix. Thirdly, the CPC truly and honestly try to run their country competently and in the direction that the population most want it to go. Musk certainly tries to run his businesses competently, but he doesn’t give a shit about your opinion. Why should he? He’s a capitalist and oligarch.
Aside: Who performs the most public opinion polls in the world? Answer: the CPC. CPC members are required to rub shoulders with the normies in their neighborhoods and find out what they want from the state. It is part of their job.
I think you’re making a seriously false equivalency here. I cannot find any point of equivalence between Musk and the CPC at all.
Anyway, the CPC is leading their country not back to some point in the past, but forward into a future of unlimited possibilities. That is why the Chinese people have a level of optimism unmatched in the world. They’re going places, and they like it.

Posted by: William Gruff | May 7 2025 20:38 utc | 173

Instead [Poland] should turn westward and take whatever land they want from the pervert Deutschbags, like the Poles make noise about from time to time. I bet most Russians would happily support such a turn, which would surely cause NATO to break up once and for all.

Posted by: Flying Dutchman | May 6 2025 16:27 utc | 44
What is the general opinion of Poland in Russia? I bet they understand in principle that the end doesn’t always justify the means – there must be better ways of ending NATO, of which Germany is only a member.

Posted by: Digby | May 7 2025 20:54 utc | 174

Anyway, the primary problem that US Carrier Battle Groups face is: how to intercept hypersonic anti-shipping missiles. Detecting and tracking are only part of the “firing solution”, gotta shoot the blighters down, but what with?
And in the wider scheme of things, this is the primary threat to US$ dominance. If acceptance of US$ as a global currency can no longer be enforced by military posturing then… well, what happens next?

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 7 2025 21:01 utc | 175

Posted by: William Gruff | May 7 2025 20:38 utc | 173
That whole democratic convergence system of voting seems to work a lot better than the ‘representative democracy’ bullshit we deal with under our liberal systems. Especially in the USA where the number of representatives was fixed in 1929 leading to a total disconnect from said reps and the population.

Posted by: Badjoke | May 7 2025 21:02 utc | 176

Bugger, posted in the wrong thread…
As you were…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | May 7 2025 21:03 utc | 177

@William Gruff
“I have no idea who or what Kurzweil is”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Kurzweil

Posted by: Apollyon | May 7 2025 21:39 utc | 178

@William Gruff
“I have no idea who or what Kurzweil is”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ray_Kurzweil

Posted by: Apollyon | May 7 2025 21:41 utc | 179

Ray Kurzweil has been lauded as a “futurist” in empire propaganda rags like Der Spiegel for decades. He was already there waxing along philosophically about the AI singularity back when I enrolled at Uni for maths, which I did in part to see what his concepts might be, and it’s bizarre he is still there, getting rolled out from time to time. – I went, and I saw: nothing! It’s utter, total, ridiculous bullshit. When he got a fat job at Alphabet Inc. I began to wonder if he is even legitimately wrong, or just a plain shill. This man’s career is shocking.
It’s OT but here goes a small sketch of my argument:
Transhumanism relies on the idea that human biology can interface with technology, and the latter is inherently superior, so we will basically overcome our own biological evolution soon enough. Well, that is an error of category; it’s science fiction at best, and closer scrutiny reveals that maths is, by its very own nature, unable to work as an interface of any sort on the true level of biological sentience. It’s not in there, it can’t be put in, and so it never will. qed.
That said, prosthetics is a very interesting and promising field of research. One of my neighbours is the first European who was born deaf, received a Cochlea implant, and has learned to hear and speak; he converses fluently and even understands some french. That’s great. But please note that the implant (essentially a microphone) is hooked up with his nerve cells, who now get stimuli, which he learned to interpret, apparently relying on a field of qualia that was there and free to be mapped, which is nothing like a true brain interface for transmitting actual sensual experiences, or even thoughts.
Apologies if my rant wasn’t kurzweilig for you.

Posted by: persiflo | May 7 2025 23:06 utc | 180

Posted by: persiflo | May 7 2025 23:06 utc | 180
Kurzweil should stick to making music gear.
Kurzweil

Posted by: lex talionis | May 7 2025 23:35 utc | 181

William Gruff | May 7 2025 20:38 utc
“any point of equivalence between Musk and the CPC at all”?
here we go: “forward into a future of unlimited possibilities”.
That is what I mean.
Two anecdotes (just providing anecdotal evidence, of course):
1. I remember watching a TV reprort on chinese graduees from secondary school saying: now we are due for pension, exhausted as we are.
2. According to a chinese professor (German citizen, meanwhile) teaching in my town,, the grandparents (who have lived through culture revolution and the aftermath until today) are telling their grandchildren: “Our lives were not worth it. Don’t do what we did. Don’t strain yourselves, nothing good will come of it.”
Why is it that populations are used up after three or four generations of modernization? Why do only horror clowns like Musk carry on from then on? In Europe, a large proportion of young people already had the impression in the 1980s that there was “no future”. Do you think there are fewer of them now? The best thing you can say is that the future has turned into an eternal present. The era is standing still. (By the way, that’s what the Greek word epoché actually means: stopping, standing still…)
It is significant that you only address the political elements of the situation. In Marxist terms: the relations of production, the state, the capitalist. You didn’t talk about productive forces. But I did.

Posted by: franziska | May 8 2025 4:20 utc | 182

AfD is a clone of the CDU, that was created after the financial crisis, when the stupid voters got the idea, that voting for a completely different party could change something and then actually found a REAL opposition part in “Die LINKE” (The LEFT).
The right wing system in germans feared, if this actual left wing party would get enough power to change things, that their whole system of warmongering and exploitation is at risk, so they created a new right wing party, gave it the order to push all the right wing topics (like foreigners are bad, and unemployed are bad) but of course also steal some of the topics of Die LINKE, so for example critizing the Euro or the EU and being overall “in opposition” to lure votes away from Die LINKE, while the media was ordered to push the AfD as opposition party and of course something completely differen than all the old right wing parties.
On top of that, with the AfD pushing right wing topics in the most disgusting, shameless way, the old right wing parties could use this to whitewash themselves and look more harmless and kind.
Overall a cheap trick, but enough to fool the stupid.
Most fights between parties in the wests are fake, with the most obvious of course being the USA with their Dems and Reps, two right wing extremist, absolut antidemocratic parties, who are actually just one party.

Posted by: Beatrice | May 8 2025 10:25 utc | 183

Neither Merz nor any of his corrupt buddies in crime are by the way the problem.
The voters are.
THEY constantly give those organized crimes parties the power.
In germany 9% of the votes voted for a left wing = for a democratic party, because democracy is a radical left principle = rooted in (=radical) the equality of all people (= left), just like human and worker rights.
The rest (from those over 5%) voted for right wing parties = oligarchic parties, who stand for war, exploitation and so on, because that’s what right wing means = elitism = few vs many, rich vs poor, king vs plebs.
Even the BSW is a joke, their plans are not any better than those of the right wing block and the first thing they did was selling out to the core party of that block, the CDU, for nothing = worthless and no opposition party.

Posted by: Beatrice | May 8 2025 10:31 utc | 184

“Well, it’s not that simple. Most of the neoliberal professors who’ve founded the party have left it because it became culturally right-wing. In a way, the party got high-jacked. In Western Germany, the AfD is still very neoliberal, but in East Germany, the party is more left-wing in regard of economy and welfare. They do not want to abolish the welfare state, but they do want to cut social benefits for immigrants who have never worked in Germany and have never paid into unemployment insurance.”
No, they are not, not at all.
The economical plans of the AfD are BRUTAL exploitation of the poor, working poor and middle wage workers and all for GIGANTIC gifts to the super rich. They also want to years of forced military service for everyone and a gigantic increase in military spending.
The whole “the evil immigrant is stealing your bread crumbs” it the typical BS that is told to the stupid slaves sind endless ages, in germany as in all other right wing states.
The political satire about it with some fat rich guy and a whole plate full of meat telling the worker, who got almost nothing on his plate, that the immigrant, who got even less) will steal the workers food, is meanwhile so old, it’s not fun anymore, not that it ever was.
In germany for example the NETTO(!) wealth of the most rich grows by more than 200 billion dollars. Those who already got way too much, they get another 200 billion on top, after taxes and all.
And AfD want to increase this even further…
They aren’t left wing, they are right wing. Extremely right wing, just like the rest of the right wing block.
They also want to cut down the welfare state in times where there are simply not enough jobs for people, oppressing them even further and forcing them into labour of couse not paid, but still on welfare level, what is the old right wing methods openly used since 1998 to cut down wages with fear.
They are also pushing absurd numbers like majority of people withoub jobs being criminals who moonlight and all the other old tricks, constantly used by the old right wing parties since decades.
They also want to brutally cut down ALG1 (which is not welfare, but a benefit you would get when having worked for at least 12 monthes and pay ALG insurance for that time), increasin the time you need to work to 36 monthes instead of 12 and also massively reducing the time you can benefit from it, before being pushed into their forced labour system…

Posted by: Beatrice | May 8 2025 10:59 utc | 185

Verfassungsschutz has now refrained to uphold the assessment of the AFD as “gesichert rechtsextremistisch”. This is no retraction – but they refuse to confirm or even speak about it…
A big victory for the AFD which, and it shows the status of democracy in Germany under a spotlight.

Posted by: mk | May 8 2025 11:14 utc | 186

Correcting myself – it is indeed a retraction, triggered by a law case initiated by the AFD.

Posted by: mk | May 8 2025 11:19 utc | 187

Jeremy, my POV is that these negative changes in Germany, France, GB, Poland – are not the result of some nebulous “Zeitgeist”, but a well organized, well executed infiltration of the media – by forces which we do not know where they sit, how they communicate, how the plan – but there seems a definite plan in those changes in the media.
Posted by: fanto | May 7 2025 3:13 utc | 114

In case you are or are speaking German, I recommend to you the book “Vom Niedergang des Westens zur Neuerfindung Europas” by Hauke Ritz. The topic you describe is the central topic of that book.

Posted by: Helmuth von Moltke | May 8 2025 11:23 utc | 188

162 – Probably not very deep sea there. Lifting it without being noticed might be a problem.

Posted by: Waldorf | May 8 2025 14:37 utc | 189