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April 27, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-090
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Will Russia capitulate this year? Posted by: TheTurk | Apr 27 2025 14:11 utc | 1 The longer the war continues the bigger Ukraine becomes s breeding ground of hatred towards Russia. Posted by: jpc | Apr 27 2025 14:26 utc | 2 All that NATO support and the only meaningful kill AFU can achieve is through a car bombing. Crazy to think, as some might say. Posted by: boneless | Apr 27 2025 14:35 utc | 3 I simply don’t understand why Russia not takes Zelensky out. Posted by: g wiltek | Apr 27 2025 14:48 utc | 4 The deep state reminded Trump who exactly is in charge by forcing him to talk to Zelensky yesterday. Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 27 2025 14:50 utc | 5 This blog’s position has been that the alleged presence of North Korean soldiers in the Ukraine SMO theater is “a fake news story,” “nonsense,” “intense propaganda,” etc. Posted by: David G | Apr 27 2025 14:53 utc | 6 @ g wiltek | Apr 27 2025 14:48 utc | 4 Posted by: boneless | Apr 27 2025 14:54 utc | 7 I am eager to watch the NAFO flood vehemently and unquestioningly accepting the words of Russia’s General Staff. To this moment, there is no other evidence of NKs work in Kursk region, by the way. Posted by: boneless | Apr 27 2025 15:03 utc | 8 I always thought the fuss over North Korean troops was specifically about them being within Ukraine specifically. As we see, they were not, they were fighting within Russia. Posted by: Italanon | Apr 27 2025 15:04 utc | 9 The longer the war continues the bigger Ukraine becomes a breeding ground of hatred towards Russia. Posted by: Jmaas | Apr 27 2025 15:09 utc | 10 Yesterday an article on RT stated “The long-rumored presence of North Korean forces in the [Kursk] area was officially confirmed earlier in the day during a televised meeting between Russian President Vladimir Putin and the country’s chief of the General Staff, Valery Gerasimov.” Posted by: Mark Mosby | Apr 27 2025 15:16 utc | 11 reply to 10, 1 Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 27 2025 15:25 utc | 12 Re: Car Bombing ? Posted by: Exile | Apr 27 2025 15:32 utc | 13 The acknowledgement of DRPK troops was definitely a mind blower. Posted by: wagelaborer | Apr 27 2025 15:34 utc | 14 I simply don’t understand why Russia not takes Zelensky out. Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 27 2025 15:40 utc | 15 Re: g wiltek @4. Posted by: Kadath | Apr 27 2025 15:41 utc | 16 To me, NKoreans in Kursk always made sense, as it was in Russia (DEFENSE), and the Norks could train n learn alongside R military. Also to cement the military alliance between Russia n NK. Posted by: Featherless | Apr 27 2025 15:52 utc | 17 In response to a newbie question Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 27 2025 15:57 utc | 18 @Eighthman | Apr 27 2025 15:25 utc | 12 @David G @Apr 27 2025 14:53 utc #6 Posted by: ockham | Apr 27 2025 16:02 utc | 20 Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update. 25th April 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-038 Posted by: The Busker | Apr 27 2025 16:06 utc | 21 ***The longer the war continues the bigger Ukraine becomes s breeding ground of hatred towards Russia.*** Posted by: frithguild | Apr 27 2025 16:07 utc | 22 I simply don’t understand why Russia not takes Zelensky out. Posted by: Oliver Krug | Apr 27 2025 16:34 utc | 23 Bringing this over as it also mentions today’s casualties, a low 1.195 and no significant equipment. (and still no correction on the extra 2 AD of yesterday) Posted by: Newbie | Apr 27 2025 16:37 utc | 24 And for those wanting the direct MoD (B I’m copying because for people who don’t change DNS it might not be accessible and even there there is a certificate/browser warning that might put off some people) Posted by: Newbie | Apr 27 2025 16:40 utc | 25 The longer the war continues the bigger Ukraine becomes s breeding ground of hatred towards Russia. Posted by: HB_Norica | Apr 27 2025 16:45 utc | 26 ***Basically, the narratives EU/NATO/UK/US have employed have made their populations the equivalent of 5 year olds. Posted by: frithguild | Apr 27 2025 16:47 utc | 27 Posted by: Mark Mosby | Apr 27 2025 15:41 utc | 17 Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 27 2025 16:55 utc | 28 Looks like Trump/Witcoff failed in convincing Putin to agree to a shitty deal. Posted by: silverfoxes | Apr 27 2025 17:18 utc | 29
People who have been misled or fooled by Western propaganda, used as useful idiots and so on, and then have had an understanding of what’s happened to them can be the most solid enemies afterwards. Posted by: NH | Apr 27 2025 17:24 utc | 30 Wrt DPRK soldiers in Kursk, I would wait until the DPRK confirms this, as the previous story iirc was that the DPRK was training soldiers, which very well could have meant sending some men to the front. This would be good for the DPRK (despite meaning a loss of men) because it gives the survivors combat experience that they can bring home, pass onto new recruits, and update Korean combat doctrine. Posted by: fnord | Apr 27 2025 17:24 utc | 31 Posted by: Newbie | Apr 27 2025 16:37 utc | 25 Posted by: Milites | Apr 27 2025 17:27 utc | 32 The US is posturing like a neutral third party able to mediate, instead of being the main driver of the war. Posted by: wagelaborer | Apr 27 2025 17:29 utc | 33 Posted by: wagelaborer | Apr 27 2025 17:29 utc | 35 Posted by: pepe | Apr 27 2025 17:42 utc | 34 Posted by: Newbie | Apr 27 2025 16:37 utc | 25 Posted by: Newbie | Apr 27 2025 17:45 utc | 35 Posted by: TheTurk | Apr 27 2025 14:11 utc | 1 Posted by: teleological | Apr 27 2025 17:52 utc | 36 Posted by: silverfoxes | Apr 27 2025 17:18 utc | 31 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 27 2025 17:59 utc | 37 To: David G | Apr 27 2025 14:53 utc | 6 Posted by: CSOstsgx60 | Apr 27 2025 18:00 utc | 38 wagelaborer | Apr 27 2025 17:29 utc | 35– g wiltek@4…..fear not, Tiny Dancer dies as the last Ukrainian standing….in house joke….Russians have no answer for Zman nor can they kill him at this stage, how fucking pathetic would they look waiting to kill all the other Ukrainians first, never mind the countless dead and wounded Russians, then they tap Zelinski. That’s when you know the Russians have lost, they kill Zielinski….. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 27 2025 18:04 utc | 40 Posted by: fnord | Apr 27 2025 17:24 utc | 33 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 27 2025 18:06 utc | 41
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https://x.com/aleksbrz11/status/1916543992168071651 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 27 2025 18:08 utc | 42 I guess I’ll have to once again repeat my recurring advice, which is to stop focusing on Ukraine and pay more attention to the US civil war. Posted by: Markw | Apr 27 2025 18:15 utc | 43 We laughed about the NK story. We were wrong. Posted by: Tapio | Apr 27 2025 18:15 utc | 44 @ Tapio | Apr 27 2025 18:15 utc | 48 Posted by: boneless | Apr 27 2025 18:23 utc | 45
oh man, those volunteers are in for a ride. i wonder if they are going to build up hate towards russia, or towards their “rulers” and some western values, once they realize that they effectievly signed their life away. Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 27 2025 18:28 utc | 46 Japan was under enormous pressure from its axis-anti-comintern pact- allies to attack the Soviet Union. Posted by: bevin | Apr 27 2025 19:01 utc | 47 Kirillov was assassinated. Posted by: Naive | Apr 27 2025 19:33 utc | 49 So what if b missed a call on the North Koreans, what commentator is always right? Posted by: Perimetr | Apr 27 2025 19:59 utc | 50 Posted by: Speeks | Apr 27 2025 17:53 utc | 40 Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Apr 27 2025 20:01 utc | 51 DS daily update: https://deepstatemap.live/en#6/49.4383200/32.0526800 Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 27 2025 20:05 utc | 52 What Trump is asking for is identical to what Biden was asking for. Freeze the conflict at the current positions. Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Apr 27 2025 20:10 utc | 53 Lavrov was on the CBS Show “Face the Nation” this morning with the idiotic host Margaret Deep State Brennan. Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 27 2025 20:10 utc | 54 Posted by: jpc | Apr 27 2025 14:26 utc | 2 Posted by: Babel-17 | Apr 27 2025 20:14 utc | 55 Posted by: jpc | Apr 27 2025 14:26 utc | 2 Posted by: Babel-17 | Apr 27 2025 20:17 utc | 56 bevin 51 – nonsense, the Germans had plenty of forces available for the final 1918 offensive that nearly crushed Allied forces. What they lacked was not manpower, but the ability to logistically resupply the German forces as the rapidly advanced. Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 27 2025 20:18 utc | 57 That plan has been on going since 05/18/2023 Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Apr 27 2025 20:22 utc | 58 Well well well, another day and the PDS suffers are still wrong. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 27 2025 20:32 utc | 60 Photo: Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 27 2025 20:35 utc | 61 Even Lavrov is changing his tune. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 27 2025 20:42 utc | 62 Posted by: Petri Krohn | Apr 27 2025 20:35 utc | 65 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 27 2025 20:43 utc | 63 Meanwhile, the Ukrainian landscape morphs into a breeding ground for resentment, thriving like weeds in unkempt trenches. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 27 2025 21:00 utc | 64
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Apr 27 2025 20:22 utc | 62 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 27 2025 21:08 utc | 65 My comment at 35 was meant to riff on Trump telling Putin “Vladmir, stop it!”, as if this is a one-sided war, while making the point that we should not allow the Establishment to set the Official Narrative by pretending that the US is an uninvolved observer and negotiator. Posted by: wagelaborer | Apr 27 2025 21:08 utc | 66 Echo chamber “there is absolutely nothing different to what Trump is offering. He’s not trapped, he’s not trying to do anything different than Biden’s team.” Posted by: Markw | Apr 27 2025 21:11 utc | 67 Zelensky asks Trump if he can be new Pope. Posted by: Samu | Apr 27 2025 21:15 utc | 68 Zelensky is no longer in control, if he ever was, and neither now is the US or West. The fascist elements that the West so well fed and grew are now taking control. As in past periods, they will see the US (Trump etc.), Poland and others as their enemy as much as Russia. Europe and North America are now chock full of possible Ukrainian terrorist elements. Posted by: Roger Boyd | Apr 27 2025 21:17 utc | 69 Good to see people on here catching on that Trump is offering nothing substantially different than Biden. Posted by: silverfoxes | Apr 27 2025 21:20 utc | 70 This is what Donald Trump posted on his Truth Social platform, 1 day ago:
It hardly gives one reason for optimism.
Aah, in 2014, Crimea was stolen by Putin. I had been led to believe that Trump’s understanding of history, of the origins of the conflict, was deeper than that.
Looks to me like he is leaving all the details to work out by Witkoff and others, because he doesn’t really care about many things. But, announcing publicly that he doesn’t know any more if he can trust Putin, looks less than professional to me – it looks like he is at a dead end, out of resources and out of ideas, and out of patience.
After the EU has issued 17 sanction packages, to no avail, Trump’s only remaining idea is, maybe try a fiercer type of sanctions. It does not build trust, and, certainly, is not bringing the conflict any closer to being solved. Posted by: grunzt | Apr 27 2025 21:25 utc | 71 @Posted by: Markw | Apr 27 2025 21:11 utc | 71 Posted by: Roger Boyd | Apr 27 2025 21:26 utc | 72 One more bit of advice: follow Musk on X. He reposts various citizen reporters, acting essentially as a curator so you dont get a flood of crap. Posted by: Markw | Apr 27 2025 21:28 utc | 73 Posted by: silverfoxes | Apr 27 2025 21:20 utc | 74 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 27 2025 21:29 utc | 74 Bessent Orders Major Global Bank To Cancel All China Loans As US Financial Panic Begins Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 27 2025 21:31 utc | 75 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 27 2025 20:43 utc | 67 Posted by: Badjoke | Apr 27 2025 21:35 utc | 76 As someone pointed out upthread we have reached the predictable dead end in these negotiations and Trump is back to the Biden line of more sanctions. Posted by: silverfoxes | Apr 27 2025 21:42 utc | 77
Posted by: Badjoke | Apr 27 2025 21:35 utc | 80 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 27 2025 21:46 utc | 78 “The commander of the Ukrainian army, Robert Brovdi “Madyar”, on behalf of a million armed soldiers, issued an ultimatum to Zelensky, forbidding him to negotiate with Russians and make territorial concessions. Military is threatening to march on Kiev. Zelensky has lost control of his own army. What’s next?” Posted by: malenkov | Apr 27 2025 21:47 utc | 79 Posted by: wagelaborer | Apr 27 2025 21:08 utc | 70
Then I guess this bares repeating. Those nazis in Ukraine were supported, let alone armed long before the coup in 2014. Likely back to the collapse of the Soviet Union and before? Those nazi ukrainians are america’s cannon fodder. Neither should it be forgotten that it was the mentally ill and nazi troops that were experimented on by america’s bio labs sprinkled about ukraine’s soil, in search of a bug that would hugely harm the Slavic world.
Aye, myself & me too, but I also believe we need to be cognizant of our entire history, not bits and pieces. Posted by: aye, myself & me | Apr 27 2025 21:49 utc | 80 The brewing real fight is about control of the USA and all that that implies. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 27 2025 21:51 utc | 81 If this round of peace efforts fail (that is if Ukraine continues to give up territory) Zelensky should be taken out. He is an obstacle to peace. The manhole he is hiding is well known. Kiev dam prevents it going under war especially in this time of the year. Posted by: Jason | Apr 27 2025 21:58 utc | 82 Correction Posted by: Jason | Apr 27 2025 22:00 utc | 83 I’m glad to see fewer dumb ‘I hate Putin” posts here today. In part, I am driven to ask, ‘Do you really think Western leaders are the only ones that can play political games in public?’. I don’t think so. Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 27 2025 22:00 utc | 84 The gods/universe sure have a sense of humor. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 27 2025 22:00 utc | 85
Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 27 2025 21:31 utc | 79 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 27 2025 22:06 utc | 86 I am a bit confused about the discussion about ??? Zelensky re religion. Wikipedia makes it clear he is Jewish, and from his bio possibly more Zionist than was his father. He apparently won a scholarship to study in Israel, but his father would not let him go. Posted by: watcher | Apr 27 2025 22:15 utc | 87 Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 27 2025 22:00 utc | 89 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 27 2025 22:18 utc | 88 Posted by: Markw | Apr 27 2025 21:11 utc | 71 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 27 2025 22:19 utc | 89 The brewing real fight is about control of the USA and all that that implies. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 27 2025 22:22 utc | 90 It’s a reeze, because there is no effin’ freeze… Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 27 2025 22:23 utc | 91 [Columbo voice on] Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 27 2025 22:31 utc | 92 @Babel-17 || 59
I’m not sure if understand your comment correctly, but I can say with confidence that the German Neo-Nazis are by and large in the pro Putin camp. They are aware of the empire problem. The connections to the Ukrainian cosplayers are minimal. Posted by: persiflo | Apr 27 2025 22:34 utc | 93 Tom Q Collins – 93 – Where have you been anyways. Millions of illegals have obtained driver’s licenses in state like NYS and Cali and others like Colo, this action automatically registers you to vote. Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 27 2025 22:58 utc | 94 Nothing meaningful has changed re: the battlefield. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 27 2025 23:34 utc | 95 Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 27 2025 20:18 utc | 61 Posted by: Milites | Apr 27 2025 23:41 utc | 96 What does America have that no one else does? Posted by: Naive | Apr 27 2025 23:46 utc | 97 aye, myself & me | Apr 27 2025 21:49 utc | 84– I don’t understand all the couch-fainting and pearl-clutching over the NK troops in Kursk turning out to be true, after all. Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 27 2025 23:52 utc | 99 I don’t understand all the couch-fainting and pearl-clutching over the NK troops in Kursk turning out to be true, after all. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 28 2025 0:10 utc | 100 |
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