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April 20, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-084
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Russian MOD reports over 1300 violations of Easter Truce:
In his conversation with Gerasimov yesterday, Putin said: I think it proves Putins point that a ceasefire is pointless if someone can wreck it so easily. All it takes is a few provocations and it’s gone. There’s so many people outside ukraines control in the war they can’t simply order a ceasefire. Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Apr 20 2025 13:37 utc | 2 ” .. declaration of an Easter truce by both sides, ..” Posted by: MAKK | Apr 20 2025 13:55 utc | 3 Here the mockingbird war-war haw-haw’s of the fascist propaganda media’s insist on keeping the decades long Russophobia going – to the last ukropian dragged off the streets and minced into the Russian grinder. Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 20 2025 14:09 utc | 4 DH: Mark Sleboda: Putin Orders Devastating New Offensive Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 20 2025 14:13 utc | 5 Russian groups of forces in area of special military operation strictly observe ceasefire Posted by: Newbie | Apr 20 2025 14:24 utc | 6 There is general talk of France,UK etc sending troops to Odessa. Wonder the operational potential of partisans against them. Also Transnistria role if any. If and when Russians make a move on Odessa what assistance can they expect from the partisans. Think it is now or never for them In Russian, трус, pronounced “truce,” means coward. Posted by: Peter b | Apr 20 2025 14:33 utc | 8 Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 18th April 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-84b Posted by: The Busker | Apr 20 2025 14:56 utc | 9 @ Peter b | Apr 20 2025 14:33 utc | 8 Posted by: boneless | Apr 20 2025 15:00 utc | 10 Gary, who works with Danny Davis on Deep Dive found this DW video on YT: Posted by: ockham | Apr 20 2025 15:30 utc | 11 Two incedents of british airforce typhoons harassing Russian planes this week. Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 20 2025 15:32 utc | 12 The 1300+ violations are very demonstrative about Kiev’s desire for peace and willingness to honor any agreement. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 20 2025 15:45 utc | 13 Aleph_Null | Apr 20 2025 15:45 utc | 13– @ karlof1 | Apr 20 2025 16:24 utc | 14 Posted by: malenkov | Apr 20 2025 16:33 utc | 15 I’ve not seen PeterAU1 commenting here but I have seen a Peter AU 1 commenting on Martyanov’s blog Posted by: ScreamingMonk | Apr 20 2025 16:53 utc | 16 Very interesting read, to say the least….. Posted by: drinky crow | Apr 20 2025 17:09 utc | 17 The gents on The Duran looked into their crystal ball this morning and foretold the future: Macron will send French troops into Odessa by late summer. Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 20 2025 17:29 utc | 18 I have seen a documentary showing Ukro parents sending their 15 year old boys to military camp to prepare for war. Posted by: vargas | Apr 20 2025 17:36 utc | 19 Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Apr 20 2025 13:37 utc | 2 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 20 2025 17:40 utc | 20 @ vargas | Apr 20 2025 17:36 utc | 19 Posted by: boneless | Apr 20 2025 17:42 utc | 21 There is nothing more stupid then Putin’s decision to establish the Easter ceasefire. Posted by: vargas | Apr 20 2025 17:44 utc | 22 malenkov | Apr 20 2025 16:33 utc | 15– @ vargas | Apr 20 2025 17:44 utc | 22 Posted by: boneless | Apr 20 2025 17:48 utc | 24 It’s all settled, then… Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 20 2025 17:56 utc | 25
yes, very strong messege. they rather send their young children before going themself. is this one of your european values that you so cherish? cowardly hiding behind others, and now even hiding behind your own little children? Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 20 2025 17:59 utc | 26 Former British colonel Richard Kemp believes that Sec Rubio’s comments about ‘walking away’ have “rattled” VVP and that as a result he has “blinked first” in calling for a 30-hour Easter ceasefire. Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 20 2025 18:01 utc | 27 @ karlof1 | Apr 20 2025 17:44 utc | 23 Posted by: malenkov | Apr 20 2025 18:06 utc | 28 Putin said: Posted by: Naive | Apr 20 2025 18:10 utc | 29 Posted by: ctiger | Apr 20 2025 13:35 utc | 178 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 20 2025 18:16 utc | 30 … Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 20 2025 18:24 utc | 31 Odessa is on the menu. Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 20 2025 18:31 utc | 32 so natos final stand will be at odessa? fitting, as this is where it all began with the trade union building arson. Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 20 2025 18:37 utc | 33 This ridiculous truce is dead even before it was born. The Russians have made a fool of themselves with this farce of a truce based on a superstition that should have no place in the modern world and the UKR/NATO has rightly mocked it, they have a war to fight and win. Does Russia have sorcerers serving among the troops? Does it use a black magic to guide missiles? Russia is not even a nation that lives in the Middle Ages, they are troglodytes, while the West and Ukraine are people of the 21st century Posted by: Louis | Apr 20 2025 18:50 utc | 34 Russia can handle UK/Fr boots on the ground in Ukraine quite easily. Simply ID the relevant country of origin of a missile and launch an ICBM, sans warhead, into a green field. The Brits and frogs are pretty dumb but can add 1 + 1. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 20 2025 18:52 utc | 35 Trump hates the City of London-knows the game-he has other problems of course but he is the first Prez in a long time that opposes the City. Posted by: canuck | Apr 20 2025 18:55 utc | 36 Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 20 2025 18:31 utc | 32 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 20 2025 18:57 utc | 37 @ Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 20 2025 18:52 utc | 35
President Putin has never “threatened” to use nukes. He has _warned_ that RF has this thing called Nuclear Doctrine. He most definitely didn’t say anything about what would happen if RF would “look like” losing in 404. Posted by: boneless | Apr 20 2025 18:59 utc | 38 Daily DS map update: https://deepstatemap.live/en#7/48.8827796/38.7817383 Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 20 2025 19:02 utc | 39 Re: Ukropia not honoring the Easter ceasefire Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 20 2025 19:04 utc | 40 All of the Ukraine peace talk is nonsense. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 20 2025 19:08 utc | 41 … Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 20 2025 19:19 utc | 42 @ Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 20 2025 19:19 utc | 42 Posted by: boneless | Apr 20 2025 19:23 utc | 43 Tom Luongo on City of London; I think he is right on Posted by: canuck | Apr 20 2025 19:28 utc | 44 stop cheering for nazism. as an alleged “serbian”, you should know better. Posted by: vargas | Apr 20 2025 19:32 utc | 45 Anyway, boneless, you’re deliberately missing the point I was making @ #35. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 20 2025 19:35 utc | 46 @ Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 20 2025 19:35 utc | 46 Posted by: boneless | Apr 20 2025 19:43 utc | 47 Posted by: vargas | Apr 20 2025 19:32 utc | 45 Posted by: Macpott | Apr 20 2025 20:09 utc | 48
A compact target such as a hotel is not a correct target for an Oreshnik. Iskanders are preferred and are lower cost and available in quantity. Posted by: Drifter | Apr 20 2025 20:16 utc | 49 Two incedents of british airforce typhoons harassing Russian planes this week. Posted by: Red Star | Apr 20 2025 20:17 utc | 50 ceasefire pause has clearly shown as intended that z has no command of the military and can be dismissed,bypassed, and that destroying the neo nazi culture within and outside Ukraine must continue until absolute surrender . Posted by: Jo | Apr 20 2025 20:17 utc | 51 I am just terrified I am not cheering for nazism. Posted by: malenkov | Apr 20 2025 20:29 utc | 52 Red Star @ 51 Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 20 2025 20:31 utc | 53 @Posted by: malenkov | Apr 20 2025 18:06 utc | 28 Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 20 2025 20:56 utc | 55 Two main points here and Happy Easter Hristos si Rodi…to all…. Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 20 2025 21:45 utc | 56 This is aproxy war by USA’s genocidal empire against Russia. It was prepared for decades, and Trump was part of that in his first term. Posted by: acementhead | Apr 20 2025 22:12 utc | 57 My understanding is that Peter AU1 had passed on as a few months ago there were quite a few comments regarding him including his own statements saying how ill he was. Very sadly missed. Posted by: Q-lander | Apr 20 2025 22:14 utc | 58 Wrt the Peter AU1 discussion… Posted by: Spectator | Apr 20 2025 22:34 utc | 59 So Peter went to the Gates of Heaven and was told, F*** off T****?! lol, quite the story. Posted by: persiflo | Apr 20 2025 22:42 utc | 60 You’re not “terrified” at all. Every last post of yours cheers the Ukronazis on. Posted by: vargas | Apr 20 2025 22:50 utc | 61 “Trump was reportedly telling Republican leaders between elections that he wanted to bomb Russia with planes disguised as Chinese..” Posted by: canuck | Apr 20 2025 23:03 utc | 62 I haven’t seen or heard any iota of your accusation, so I am confused Posted by: Social_Misfit | Apr 20 2025 23:11 utc | 63 I haven’t seen or heard any iota of your accusation, so I am confused. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 20 2025 23:19 utc | 64 And we’re back in business.. Posted by: Newbie | Apr 20 2025 23:24 utc | 65 Donald Trump if your reading this MOA thread, i hope you’l agree Vladimir Putin has done everything possable to make this truce work. Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 20 2025 23:33 utc | 66 Donald Trump if your reading this MOA thread? Posted by: Social_Misfit | Apr 20 2025 23:35 utc | 67 As fast as Trump was hinting today that a major deal between Russia and Ukraine was imminent, Maria Zakharova has stated in the last 30 minutes that the ceasefire will NOT be extended in response to the US State Department. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 20 2025 23:36 utc | 68 Is there a reset button for the first 100 days? Posted by: Social_Misfit | Apr 20 2025 23:39 utc | 69 Confusion is to be expected when one is a fan and cannot perform objective analysis. Posted by: Carrion | Apr 21 2025 0:06 utc | 70 To review: Trump no longer controls the UkroNazis, the EU political leaders, and the European portion of NATO. That’s all very serious. Add to that the splits within the EU and EU/NATO and future unpredictability escalates. Posted by: Acco Hengst | Apr 21 2025 0:06 utc | 71 Poor Trump. He’s trying to “incept” deals now. It’s like a salesman whose rent is due and hasn’t been able to close a deal in months. Posted by: Carrion | Apr 21 2025 0:10 utc | 72 Thanks for the replies and for Gruff’s well-placed shot between naive’s eyes. Posted by: Newbie | Apr 20 2025 23:24 utc | 66 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 21 2025 0:25 utc | 74 gotta blame someone I suppose … Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 21 2025 0:32 utc | 75 Posted by: Carrion | Apr 21 2025 0:10 utc | 73 Posted by: Spectator | Apr 21 2025 0:35 utc | 76 You just come across as a full-on Trump worshipper. A person who will never criticize Donald Trump no matter what he does. Trump himself made fun of people like you when he said a few years ago that he could shoot some rando in broad daylight on 5th Ave in NYC and he wouldn’t lose any of his acolytes. It is a very feminine and non-libertarian quality to be so emotionally dedicated to one politician, imo. Posted by: Carrion | Apr 21 2025 0:43 utc | 77 “He said goodbye. Did he experience a Pinball Wizard Miricle Cure? If he did, I’d expect him to directly contact me at MoA or my substack and say so.” Posted by: Spectator | Apr 21 2025 0:51 utc | 78 cool story bro … first off , I’m canadian .. and could care less what trump does .. Posted by: Social_Misfit | Apr 21 2025 0:53 utc | 79 There was talk last week about the US withdrawing 50,000 troops from Europe. I can see Trump ‘saving the day’ and rescuing the Brits and French. Posted by: freedom fritos | Apr 21 2025 1:01 utc | 80 Acco Hengst | Apr 21 2025 0:06 utc | 72– but you do Posted by: Carrion | Apr 21 2025 1:05 utc | 82 “…first off , I’m canadian .. and could care less what trump does ..” Posted by: Spectator | Apr 21 2025 1:11 utc | 83 Posted by: Brilliant Hedgehog | Apr 21 2025 1:07 utc | 84 Posted by: Macpott | Apr 21 2025 1:15 utc | 84
Better than the robot dogs some have been trying to build for ginormous $$$. Posted by: persiflo | Apr 21 2025 1:33 utc | 85 Easy bits first, Nukes. Posted by: Suresh | Apr 21 2025 1:33 utc | 86 Of course you care a lot about Trump. And just for pedantic purposes, the phrase should be “couldn’t care less”, not “could care less”. Posted by: Carrion | Apr 21 2025 1:44 utc | 87 @ Brilliant Hedgehog Posted by: boneless | Apr 21 2025 1:50 utc | 88 “…and like the good leftist , toss in and trash some random person you have issues with .. (Canuck)..” Posted by: Spectator | Apr 21 2025 1:55 utc | 89 Posted by: Social_Misfit | Apr 20 2025 23:11 utc | 64 Posted by: watcher | Apr 21 2025 2:09 utc | 90 “On the balance of probabilities I think Trump will pull out of Ukraine and even Europe…” Posted by: Spectator | Apr 21 2025 2:20 utc | 91 “That is because every second word here is “Ukraine is defeated”.” Posted by: Spectator | Apr 21 2025 2:30 utc | 93 When male lions fight each other they go for backbone as kill shot. Odessa is the backbone of Ukraine/nato. Take it and it is all over. Brits and French know it and hence the scrambling. Partisans unknown component here. Their weaponry,motivation,leadership,organisation, whether Russian special forces already in organising and making way, all crucial for the Odessa taking. When the time is ripe it can even start as a small spark, for example like an agitation against recruiter’s brutality. In the fire and mass mayhem that follow Russia go in for the kill Liberal Party of Canada has released their costed platform entitled ‘Unite, Secure, Protect, Build’ committing $18 billion on spending for national defence, putting Canada on track to exceed our NATO target. Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 21 2025 3:49 utc | 95 Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 21 2025 3:49 utc | 99 Posted by: Spectator | Apr 21 2025 4:02 utc | 96 Very sorry to hear that Peter AU has passed on. I admired the work he did on bioweapons, and I always read his posts. I came to understand that he was quite ill, so I tended to forgive his rants, as I have had some experience with chronic pain and serious illness. Posted by: Perimetr | Apr 21 2025 4:12 utc | 97 Miller & Berletic On Gonzalo Lira (& vid) Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 21 2025 4:14 utc | 98 all the best Posted by: Paranaense | Apr 21 2025 4:22 utc | 99 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 21 2025 0:25 utc | 75 Posted by: Paranaense | Apr 21 2025 4:34 utc | 100 |
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