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April 17, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-081
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Newest report from my friend from the front: Russians switched now from attacking Energy infrastructure to hunting drone teams, he moved from the quadcoper team to the fixed wing regiment to feel more safe. (Fixed wing = longer range = more distant from front) Posted by: Rudi Ruessel | Apr 17 2025 10:42 utc | 1 Volkssturm defend the fatherland starter pack. Posted by: unimperator | Apr 17 2025 11:57 utc | 2 Not surprised Germany doesn’t want anyone going to the May 9th Victory parade in Moscow. After all, it’s a celebration of the defeat of the Germans, who killed millions….. Posted by: HERMIUS | Apr 17 2025 12:19 utc | 3 According to sources in the General Staff, preparations for mobilization from the age of 18 are currently in full swing, and this is precisely what the new strict rules for registration are connected with. Posted by: unimperator | Apr 17 2025 12:27 utc | 4 translated:
if you look up the word “petty” in a dictionary, the german flag is hoisted besides it. Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 17 2025 13:07 utc | 5 Regarding Project Ukraine, Lt. Col Daniel Davis says it is time for DJT to take “the best, ugly deal.” Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 17 2025 13:08 utc | 6 UKR’s Volkssturm strategy now seems certain to be pursued to the end–which means boys and women–until collapse, or folly, or false-flag brings Euros or NATO in. Posted by: Paul Damascene | Apr 17 2025 13:09 utc | 7 Ursula Von Der Leyen: The West as we knew it no longer exists. (zeit) Posted by: Passerby | Apr 17 2025 13:39 utc | 8 https://www.flightradar24.com/HFM413/39efad93 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Apr 17 2025 14:15 utc | 9 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 17 2025 13:08 utc | 6 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 17 2025 14:29 utc | 10 It’s left Rzeszow heading west, 361 economy class seats was the last config I saw for it. So not doing medevac. Is Starmer sending troops to Ukraine? Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Apr 17 2025 14:38 utc | 11 11 YetAnotherAnon – yup the UK is now desparate…..billions and billions in London bank loans to the Ukronazis now in serious jeopardy……….. Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 17 2025 14:45 utc | 12 Mud season has just about run its course along that long, long battlefront. The R.U. forces are likely in an intense preparation stage. A break-through/break-out could occur most anywhere along that series of face-offs. Russian intel will be following the developments most keenly. Posted by: aristodemos | Apr 17 2025 14:47 utc | 13 Paul Damascene @1309 Apr 17 Posted by: aristodemos | Apr 17 2025 14:56 utc | 14 A meeting of EU leaders and Ukrainians are meeting with Witkoff and Rubio in Paris. Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 17 2025 14:56 utc | 15 MiG-31 and S-300/400 are reportedly engaging Ukrainian F-16 in Sumy region, which continue fly high-risk bombing delivery attempts near the border. Posted by: unimperator | Apr 17 2025 14:58 utc | 16 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi_Fly_Malta Posted by: Newbie | Apr 17 2025 15:01 utc | 17 tobias cole | Apr 17 2025 14:45 utc | 12 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Apr 17 2025 15:04 utc | 18 justpassinby@1307 Apr 17 Posted by: aristodemos | Apr 17 2025 15:04 utc | 19 Mud season has just about run its course along that long, long battlefront. The R.U. forces are likely in an intense preparation stage. A break-through/break-out could occur most anywhere along that series of face-offs. Russian intel will be following the developments most keenly. Posted by: Newbie | Apr 17 2025 15:09 utc | 20 MiG-31 and S-300/400 are reportedly engaging Ukrainian F-16 in Sumy region, which continue fly high-risk bombing delivery attempts near the border. Posted by: Newbie | Apr 17 2025 15:16 utc | 21 I suppose it could just be moves of UKR troops finished UK training, they train oop North. We’ll see if it does another run, but what’s odd is that the first trip to Rzeszow was from Faro in Portugal. I guess they could be taking new UKR recruits for training, AND returning trained ones. Posted by: Newbie | Apr 17 2025 15:18 utc | 22 These abhorrent daily losses for the AFU are a real eyesore. Posted by: Aivazovsky | Apr 17 2025 15:31 utc | 23 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 17 2025 14:29 utc | 10 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 17 2025 15:44 utc | 24 Speaking at the Harvard/Kennedy Institute this week, Jake “the slim reaper” Sullivan addressed the weaponry Collective Biden provided Ukraine: “The idea that ATACMS made a major difference in the war has not been borne out operationally on the battlefield. So this notion that, ‘Oh, if only you’d given Ukraine ATACMS sooner, they might have won’ isn’t true. The experience of the use of ATACMS by Ukraine suggests that is not in fact the case.” Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 17 2025 15:54 utc | 25 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 17 2025 15:54 utc | 25 Posted by: unimperator | Apr 17 2025 16:05 utc | 26 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 17 2025 15:54 utc | 25 Posted by: Mario | Apr 17 2025 16:18 utc | 27 This level of losses is then not a bug but a feature…sickening… Posted by: Newbie | Apr 17 2025 16:25 utc | 28 zelensky trying to badmouth china again:
well, if its “on the territory of russia”, then its russian production. just as you always say about your “own” production centers on the territory of the ukraine. Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 17 2025 16:25 utc | 29 People don’t typically reform until they are out of options. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 17 2025 16:29 utc | 30 steel_porcupine @25: ”Christoforou: for DJT to reject a $50 billion dollar deal for the MIC *says* a lot.” Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 17 2025 16:30 utc | 31 At 17:15:05 GMT, 12 disciples gathered at a large U-shape table in the French Republic (FER) for a bilateral meeting of the coalition of the willing. Posted by: pepe | Apr 17 2025 16:30 utc | 32 https://www.flightradar24.com/HFM413/39efad93 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Apr 17 2025 16:34 utc | 33 Posted by: unimperator | Apr 17 2025 16:05 utc | 26 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 17 2025 16:41 utc | 34
the lands this little naziclown (and his precedessors) tried to steal from the people that live there and their future generations? those lands? Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 17 2025 16:43 utc | 35 sjelensskjyi:
Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 17 2025 16:51 utc | 36 that translation in @36 is a little off. the “not just like that” should be more like they are not hitting those factories because they can. he complains that they are hitting them because they make shells in them. go figure. Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 17 2025 16:54 utc | 37 @ Justpassinby | Apr 17 2025 13:07 utc | 5 Posted by: El Lissitzky | Apr 17 2025 17:05 utc | 38 Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 17 2025 16:54 utc | 37 Posted by: Mario | Apr 17 2025 17:11 utc | 39 I haven’t posted in a while, but I’ll pop in to the link this youtube “Military Schedule” channel I came across, Youtube actually yacked up something useful for a change: Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Apr 17 2025 17:16 utc | 40 Posted by: Mario | Apr 17 2025 17:11 utc | 39 Posted by: unimperator | Apr 17 2025 17:18 utc | 41 Posted by: unimperator | Apr 17 2025 17:18 utc | 41 Posted by: Mario | Apr 17 2025 17:23 utc | 42 Trump says mineral deal to be signed next week. Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 17 2025 18:04 utc | 43 Today’s top news on RT DE, which is RT’s German language website: Posted by: grunzt | Apr 17 2025 18:12 utc | 44 Blazing article from MOA yeasterday. I linked to it on Colonel Lang’s old site with what I fear might not be too gloomy a prediction. Posted by: English Outsider | Apr 17 2025 18:14 utc | 45 New post by S, most is paid, but couple of interesting points (namely the absence of AD in major cities) and the combined approach of RF attacks. Posted by: Newbie | Apr 17 2025 18:33 utc | 46 The math, however, never mathed: it was not clear how Zelensky could scrape together two nickles let alone $50 billion. Posted by: Mike R | Apr 17 2025 20:03 utc | 47 Posted by: Newbie | Apr 17 2025 15:16 utc | 21 Posted by: Milites | Apr 17 2025 20:13 utc | 48 Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 17 2025 18:04 utc | 43 Posted by: Milites | Apr 17 2025 20:24 utc | 49 The former governor of Kursk has been arrested on charges of fraud. 200 million rubles were misappropriated from the funds set aside for the construction of barriers and defensive fortification. Several contractors are already awaiting trials. Posted by: Suresh | Apr 17 2025 20:29 utc | 50 Looking at the published footage they seem to using them to bridge the PGM gap (strikes against critical point targets) that has noticeably opened up since The US ISR support has been noticeably scaled back, rendering existing LR systems largely redundant. Posted by: Newbie | Apr 17 2025 20:56 utc | 51 Okay, so news comes out that
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https://www.rt.com/news/615867-german-chancellor-taurus-debate/ Posted by: joey_n | Apr 17 2025 21:57 utc | 52 DS daily update: https://deepstatemap.live/en#6/49.4324126/32.0581055 Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 17 2025 22:45 utc | 53 @52, 21:57 Posted by: xorexo | Apr 17 2025 23:06 utc | 54 What details are there in the background that I may not know about? Anyone? Posted by: Zet | Apr 17 2025 23:10 utc | 55 Posted by: xorexo | Apr 17 2025 23:06 utc | 54 Posted by: Zet | Apr 17 2025 23:12 utc | 56 i couldn’t really forget about it after reading it first, since i probably would get blinded by the response blast. but only for a second or two, then the firestorm will take away the blindness. Posted by: xorexo | Apr 17 2025 23:32 utc | 57
Ugh, that’s stupid. I would go, and I would feel proud about it. I’d be moved, which includes regret, and therefore shame, even if it’s not mine because it’s about the past. It’s still shame. It’s good to face it, and it’s good to remember. I would be humble, sincere, grateful, and yes – proud to be there. Posted by: persiflo | Apr 17 2025 23:40 utc | 58 https://www.globalresearch.ca/young-ukrainian-pilots-dying-nato-jets/5884546 Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 17 2025 23:40 utc | 59 Posted by: Newbie | Apr 17 2025 20:56 utc | 51 Posted by: Milites | Apr 17 2025 23:45 utc | 60
And that’s what happens when “we” don’t face the past and the shame that comes with it. I wonder how many Germans realize how serious the Russians, and Putin chiefly among them, have extended their hands to us over all of this. Have you ever talked to a Russian about the war, and looked them in the eye?! Posted by: persiflo | Apr 17 2025 23:47 utc | 61 Martin Armstrong April 17, 2025 Posted by: Skip59 | Apr 18 2025 0:05 utc | 62 Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 17 2025 18:04 utc | 43 Posted by: pepe | Apr 18 2025 0:33 utc | 63 Posted by: Newbie | Apr 17 2025 20:56 utc | 51 Posted by: Newbie | Apr 18 2025 0:55 utc | 64 Would you think they spend more time on coming up with a new series of posts or a new handle name? Posted by: boneless | Apr 18 2025 1:06 utc | 65 Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 17 2025 22:45 utc | 53 Posted by: Newbie | Apr 18 2025 1:08 utc | 66 Posted by: Kosta | Apr 18 2025 1:01 utc | 66 Posted by: ctiger | Apr 18 2025 1:13 utc | 67 Only a rank idiot – or western patsy – would be negotiating a peace agreement or a relationship with Trump, the USA and Ukraine rather than taking the War to them. Posted by: MiniMO | Apr 18 2025 2:38 utc | 68
Friendly reminder: “German state” is shorthand for ‘majority of German people’. Just like the majority of Americans lack decency, and therefore elect one psycho mass murderer after another. Or Brits, Australians, Canadians, EU countries, same story. The fact they collectively stand behind their governments’ support for the brutal wipe out of tens of thousands of children in Gaza is all one needs to know about where they are at on the decency spectrum. And I’m afraid to say, Russians, Chinese or Arabs are no better. Silent, maybe a little murmur, but that’s it. A sorry reflection of where most of the world’s population is at when it comes to character and humanity. Posted by: Juan Moment | Apr 18 2025 2:42 utc | 69 Friendly reminder: “German state” is shorthand for ‘majority of German people’. Just like the majority of Americans lack decency, and therefore elect one psycho mass murderer after another. Or Brits, Australians, Canadians, EU countries, same story. The fact they collectively stand behind their governments’ support for the brutal wipe out of tens of thousands of children in Gaza is all one needs to know about where they are at on the decency spectrum. And I’m afraid to say, Russians, Chinese or Arabs are no better. Silent, maybe a little murmur, but that’s it. A sorry reflection of where most of the world’s population is at when it comes to character and humanity. Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 18 2025 3:13 utc | 70 Meanwhile…. Posted by: Suresh | Apr 18 2025 3:16 utc | 71
When the yellow & blue sunshine band started their performance in Kursk, and got a rather frosty reception, any sane observer assumed they’ll soon leave and find more worthy spots to amuse themselves. Only experts like you expected those NATO geniuses to sacrifice another gazillion of their men and top notch gear on the altar of folly, to predictably end up where they started, whilst having lost everything they went in with. Slow clap.
“zero”, hey? If I want to hear the opinion of someone who thinks entire brigades of armed to the teeth Forth Reich Hitler fanbois with a penchant for exterminating anyone they deem a subhuman are nothing to worry about, I make sure to call you.
Lolz. The Kremlin is as much negotiating a peace agreement as you are. Difference being you underestimate the West, ready to die in a nuclear furnace, while the Russian government is somewhat more realistic in their assessment. Thank f’n Christ. Who they tell us, died on this day a little under 2 millennia ago. Posted by: Juan Moment | Apr 18 2025 3:26 utc | 72
Aaaargh, I’m deeply wounded. Your expletives are so well thought out, and most pertinently flung at anyone criticizing the shameful reaction the world is able to muster in the face of the West and its zionazi enforcers committing the worst crime against humanity in our life time. Posted by: Juan Moment | Apr 18 2025 3:47 utc | 73
Bravo. Barging into a bar, declaring everyone present with the exception of your intelligent self has no idea, incl the barkeep himself, is a superb way of introducing yourself. Quivering in anticipation of the next mental nugget you’ll share with us.
Comprehending the written word, it seems, is not your thing. I wrote you are someone who downplays the threat “Neonazi thugs and AZOV” pose in this conflict, for whatever reason you choose to do so. A threat as much to Ukrainians, as the many brutally killed by these fascist wannabe Herrenmenschen would attest to if they’d be still alive, as they are a threat to Russian speakers or anyone else they see a hindrance to their ascent. Posted by: Juan Moment | Apr 18 2025 4:31 utc | 74 Posted by: Juan Moment | Apr 18 2025 3:47 utc | 77 Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 18 2025 4:52 utc | 75
“We see you”, lol. Sure. Its the whole point of posting on a public forum.
Okay. If you say so, Sherlock.
Childish gibberish. Posted by: Juan Moment | Apr 18 2025 5:25 utc | 76 Posted by: Juan Moment | Apr 18 2025 3:26 utc | 72 Posted by: Badjoke | Apr 18 2025 7:09 utc | 77 Break news Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 18 2025 7:16 utc | 78 Breaking news Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 18 2025 7:22 utc | 79 #### Posted by: Mario | Apr 18 2025 7:35 utc | 80 Ect ect ie Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 18 2025 7:37 utc | 81 Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 18 2025 7:16 utc | 78 Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 18 2025 7:40 utc | 82 Night Tripper @ 82 Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 18 2025 7:46 utc | 84 Game over for ukraine. Posted by: too scents | Apr 18 2025 7:48 utc | 85 Too scents @ 85 Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 18 2025 7:55 utc | 86 Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 18 2025 7:46 utc | 84 Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 18 2025 7:59 utc | 87 The carpet baggers left town already. Posted by: too scents | Apr 18 2025 7:59 utc | 88 He say’s “were not going to continue for weeks or months on end” Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 18 2025 8:06 utc | 89 The usa will flip flop anyways, as usual. Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 18 2025 8:09 utc | 90 Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 18 2025 8:09 utc | 90 Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 18 2025 8:16 utc | 91
True. To the extend that the Waffen SS and its eastern offspring, ie. Ukraine neo-Nazis’s beloved 14th Waffen SS Grenadier Division (1st Galician), was used to police and terrorize people in conquered areas. Posted by: Juan Moment | Apr 18 2025 8:41 utc | 92 Minerals deal signed, to be ratified on 26th Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 18 2025 8:43 utc | 93 ~…only three countries can provide the warheads, France, USA or UK.” Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 18 2025 9:05 utc | 94 Posted by: Juan Moment | Apr 18 2025 8:41 utc | 92 Posted by: Badjoke | Apr 18 2025 9:11 utc | 95 Night Tripper @ Apr 18 2025 8:43 utc | 93
Signing that agreement doesn’t change Trumps calculus in any way. Posted by: SOS | Apr 18 2025 9:28 utc | 96 Trump counts on calling Article 5 if Russia kills American workers. Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 18 2025 9:32 utc | 97 Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 18 2025 9:05 utc | 94 Posted by: Mario | Apr 18 2025 9:34 utc | 98 I think there is a broad agreement on the course of the SMO among the three sides waging this war. Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Apr 18 2025 9:58 utc | 99
Are you sure about that? Waffen in German is weapon. Waffen SS was the moniker given to the weaponized, or more aptly, heavily armed units of the SS, the Nazi’s paramilitary SchutzStaffel. Any armored SS tank division was by definition part of the Waffen SS. Posted by: Juan Moment | Apr 18 2025 10:29 utc | 100 |
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