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April 13, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-079
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New NATO talking point is “Russian strike kills scores of civilians!” Never mind that it was a military awards ceremony, and you can clearly see military vehicles destroyed in the strike. They lie through their teeth despite photo evidence to the contrary and people still believe them. It’s scary how brainwashed most people are.
Posted by: bored | Apr 13 2025 14:09 utc | 1
Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, 11th April 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly-94b
Posted by: The Busker | Apr 13 2025 14:09 utc | 2
Behind the smokescreen of the tariff wars, Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin and Boris Johnson take their place in history at the Yalta:2 / Strasbourg Conference…
https://i.postimg.cc/QxLdJZ4Z/output-14.png
Posted by: Stinkunpoop | Apr 13 2025 14:59 utc | 3
“Ukraine again ‘unilaterally’ attacks Russian energy infrastructure – MOD”
0Kiev’s forces are repeatedly violating the US-brokered truce banning such strikes, according to Moscow’s Defense Ministry”
Again… poor Russia
Do something about it or STFU you whiney saps!
No one gives a crap about how “unfair” the “West” or “Ukraine” is anymore… try a new mantra
Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 13 2025 15:14 utc | 4
The troll that calls itself President (etc and posts about jewish names) is really sick, observed barfly pepe on the prior thread. I concur; it could well be paranoid schizophrenia. The thing about “jewish names” is that you have to discern between necessary and sufficient conditions; i.e. if someone is called, say, Jewlani, they may or may not be a Jew.
Our very Anonymous mapper might just be notorious Jihadi Julian himself, as someone here insinuated. After all he’s got to come up with his stuff from some “sources”, and why not this, among the best? If this holds, he is probably trying to return something in earnest. So let’s welcome that, as long as he doesn’t fake the numbers. Welcome to the bar, JJ. Or do you fake the numbers?
We’ve now heard often enough that the American-made M2 Bradley is a fine machine that works well on the battlefield, even on flatland steppe. Kudos to Milites, who pointed out the superior interior design of western armoured vehicles on this forum; the Russians concur. This relates to various questions about general vehicle design (cup holders, anyone?) which come up here frequently. It’s an intruiging angle for many reasons.
Posted by: persiflo | Apr 13 2025 15:29 utc | 5
british nazi keir starmer whining on twitter:
I’m appalled at Russia’s horrific attacks on civilians in Sumy and my thoughts are with the victims and their loved ones at this tragic time.
President Zelenskyy has shown his commitment to peace.
Putin must now agree to a full and ummediate ceasefire without conditions.
lets factcheck this imbecile:
1. kiev already admitted that it was a ceremony for the 117 seperate brigade of the territorial defense. civilians have been brought in intentionally.
2. zelenskyy (ever noticed how every country is writing his name differently? as if nobody knows how “ukrainian” actually works.) is not a president. and he has NOT ONCE committed to peace.
3. no.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 13 2025 15:31 utc | 6
In the previous thread I mentioned the obvious
“German military should be fully battle ready by 2029 — Bundeswehr’s Inspector General
Carsten Breuer also reiterated that the German military is currently short of about 100,000 soldiers”
https://tass.com/world/1942857
But it is just part of the problem and by chance S’s latest post is about german wonder weapons
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/bombshell-reports-german-weapons
How can west europe go full retard buying a war with RF that would be plain suicide?
Posted by: Newbie | Apr 13 2025 15:33 utc | 7
“The troll that calls itself President (etc and posts about jewish names) is really sick, observed barfly pepe on the prior thread. […]”
What concerns me is that this particular troll has published his lists under at least six different usernames over the past couple of years. Each time he was promptly banned, one could tell by the renumbering of subsequent posts. But not this time; and come to think of it, nobody seems to be banned for even egregious sockpuppeting anymore. Is the site owner too ill to moderate, or too busily engaged with other matters, or does he just not give a damn anymore?
Posted by: malenkov | Apr 13 2025 15:42 utc | 8
They lie through their teeth despite photo evidence to the contrary and people still believe them. It’s scary how brainwashed most people are.
Posted by: bored | Apr 13 2025 14:09 utc | 1
Every country that has ever fought a war portray their enemy as bloodthirsty monsters that rape torture and kill and claim that God is on their side. If you expect anything different you may as well move to a different planet.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Apr 13 2025 15:45 utc | 9
Newbie@1533 Apr13
Plain, clear and obvious that the entire hoo-ha about the EU “leaders” is little more than picking up on the long standing Zillionaire scheme here in this ruptured republic favoring the Oligarch shareholders in the WarDefense cover-up of profiteering on a gigantuan scale.
The entire WarDefense business plan is about screwing the working and middle classes and maintaining obscene greed in the drivers’ seat.
Posted by: aristodemos | Apr 13 2025 15:49 utc | 10
I think these poster(s) with their “every historical figure ever was Jewish – including Hitler” schtick are trolls deliberately attempting to smear the site.
As such I would terminate their posts with extreme prejudice.
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Apr 13 2025 15:50 utc | 11
Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 13 2025 15:31 utc | 6
Just remember to always say ‘Keeev’ and not ‘Kee-ev’. Otherwise the BBC will get offended.
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Apr 13 2025 15:58 utc | 12
New NATO talking point is “Russian strike kills scores of civilians!” Never mind that it was a military awards ceremony, and you can clearly see military vehicles destroyed in the strike. They lie through their teeth despite photo evidence to the contrary and people still believe them. It’s scary how brainwashed most people are.
Posted by: bored | Apr 13 2025 14:09 utc | 1
European really hate Russians, love this war and they are eager to participate. It is really the common people who wish to participate in it. They love their capitalists and are ready to withstand any pain just to show that love.
Posted by: vargas | Apr 13 2025 16:14 utc | 13
“There comes a point,” DJT said,”when you have to put up or shut up.”
He was speaking of Project Ukraine, perhaps addressing his comments to VVP or Zelensky, but he may as well have been talking to himself: Does he “put up”—that is to say—end the U.S.’s involvement in the war-? Or does he “shut up” and turn his attention to more pressing matters, of which there is no shortage-?
DJT believes the U.S. has leverage in this conflict. Over Ukraine-? Yes. Over Russia-? No.
Often we see headlines in Regime Media: “Trump Urges Putin To End This Ridiculous War.”
Turnabout is fair play, though, right-?
Can we see *this* headline: “Putin Urges Trump To End This Ridiculous War”-?
According to Karoline Leavitt, DJT is frustrated with both Ukraine and Russia. But he may as well be frustrated w/ the way neocon elements of his team, like Waltz and Gen Kellogg, have worked w/ Kiev, London & Paris have worked him into a corner.
Other elements of DJT’s team, like Witkoff and Tulsi, have shown DJT a path that does not include bowing to the hard-line neocons. Tucker, Elon and Donjr have contributed their support to this tteam.
Easter is in a week.
DJT wanted an unconditional ceasefire by Easter.
Easter is magical but not in the ways DJT counted on.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 13 2025 16:18 utc | 14
This Sumy news is such a gaga showman WWE show and its a recycle of what the MSM said 4 years ago. Yet barely any word on Gaza. Clown world showmean wrestling OnlyFans moral outrage politic society the West is.
Posted by: Cartoon MSM | Apr 13 2025 16:24 utc | 15
Every time Nato media talks about a died child in Ukraine, in reality it means 5 Nato mercenaries bit the dust in Ukraine.
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 13 2025 16:36 utc | 16
The EU is going to blow a trillion on this!!
It’s a debased evil farce
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/bombshell-reports-german-weapons
Posted by: jpc | Apr 13 2025 16:41 utc | 17
German WDR federal TV tells about Sumy: Many dead, Russia regularly attacks that area, there are schools and playgrounds and “according to Ukraine” they maybe used cluster bombs to hit as many civilians as possible.
Meanwhile on Telegram, we learn about politicians complaining about a military annoversary meeting.
Posted by: Tapio | Apr 13 2025 17:08 utc | 18
Step-by-step, the U.S. is working w/ Russia to normalize ties by re-establishing diplomatic relations via the restored embassies, finagling ways to provide for financial transfers for embassy staff & families—ever mindful of the economic sanctions, naturally—and hammer out ways that ordinary citizens can secure visas for permission to travel between both countries.
Witkoff is the only figure on DJT’s team who has met w/ VVP—in fact he has done so 3 times—and he has been instrumental in other diplomatic amenity actions, like the exchange of imprisoned nationals from both countries. Moreover, Witkoff has established a fast connection w/ Demetriev, chief of the Russian International Development Fund, so it is obvious that much is happening in terms of economics. for the U.S., the relations w/ Russia are too important to be held hostage to what the UK and France want, or what the neocons in D.C. want.
The Waltz – Gen Kellogg approach, which plays into the schemes of London & Paris & Beltway neocons, has already in effect failed, if for no reason other than that approach has yet to produce any deliverables.
Gen Kellogg’s efforts in particular are specious. An acolyte of the “full-scale brutal war of aggression” school of though regarding Project Ukraine, Kellogg has not in meaningful ways shown a realistic comprehension of NATO’s involvement in the conflict, the civil war which Euromaidan fomented, the long-standing neo-Nazi element in Ukraine.
Gen Kellogg is attempting to win back for Ukraine, the UK & France through negotiations what has already been lost on the battlefield. It is difficult to imagine Ukrainian citizens who are Russian ethnics or Russophones wanting to be governed by a regime so hostile to their existence.
The fact is inevitably this: Russia will take more territory from Ukraine than actually sees the planting of the tri-color on a high terrikon by Russia’s Forces.
If DJT decides that relations w/ Russia are a priority, then it is unproductive to allow the UK and France to disrupt matters. Answering reporters questions about Project Ukraine while traveling on Air Force One, DJT said, speaking off the cuff, “There comes a time when you have to put up or shut up.”
DJT has reached that nexus. There is no value he can gain from permitting the UK and France to interfere w/ pragmatics here. It is time for DJT to “put up.”
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 13 2025 17:08 utc | 19
Posted by: Passerby | Apr 13 2025 13:28 utc | 265
RE: Sumy
Passerby included this in his post on the *prior* Ukraine Open Thread last night:
In Russia Today:
A Russian missile has struck Ukrainian troops lining up for an award ceremony in the city of Sumy near the front line, according to Ukrainian lawmaker Mariana Bezuglaya, a former member of Vladimir Zelensky’s political party.
The acting mayor of Sumy, Artyon Kobzar, said that the strike on the city’s center on Sunday left more than 20 people dead and over 80 wounded.
Bezuglaya claimed in a post on Telegram later in the day that those killed were Ukrainian servicemen.
“An appeal to [Ukraine’s commander-in-chief, Aleksandr] Syrsky and separately to the commander of the Territorial Defense Forces: Do not gather the troops for award ceremonies, especially in civilian cities,” she wrote. (rtnews)
***
Zelensky lambasted the Russian Forces: “What kind of scoundrel would target schools & playgrounds-?”
The London Guardian gnashed its teeth about “an attack like this with cluster munitions on Palm Sunday in the year of our Lord.”
The horror of civilian collateral damage in war-time does not stop. Eva Bartlett has reported extensively on the AFU & nationalist militias launching petal mines into Donetsk City since 2014. We all felt anguish last July when the U.S. military guided ATACMS onto a beach of holidayers near Sevastopol, killing children.
Ukraine’s lawmaker Mariana Bezuglaya makes a good point, though (in the RT quote): don’t hold military award ceremonies next to schools & playgrounds.
I would note, too, that NATO & Ukraine opened a hot front in the Sumy region when they cast their die on the Kursk Incursion. They drew the Eye of Sauron.
Had the AFU & NATO mercs not suffered 75,000 casualties in their failed Kursk throw-down, they might never have invited Russia, unbeckoned, to Sumy.
The civilians who perished as collateral damage during the ill-conceived military ceremony near a schoolyard in Sumy would still be alive, had NATO & the AFU not brought the war to them.
It’s obvious that Project Ukraine needs a Coalition of the Commonsensical.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 13 2025 17:28 utc | 20
❗️The target of the strike on Sumy was a gathering of military personnel
MP Maryana Bezuglaya stated that the strike on Sumy hit a gathering of military personnel who had gathered for a ceremonial awarding of those who “distinguished themselves” in the Kursk direction. She is sure that there was an information leak. The Internet also drew attention to the characteristic equipment – military pickups were parked near the site of the strike.
According to Bezuglaya, this is not the first case of mass death of soldiers during formations, and no one has been held accountable for it.
📝”Mr. President, is this OK to you?” — she asked.
Konotop Mayor Artem Seminikhin went further — he called on the head of the Sumy OVA Artyukh and the head of the regional SBU to resign immediately. In the comments, Seminikhin writes that people “will see the light” when they find out what happened.
✖️ Meanwhile, major Ukrainian media outlets and bloggers pretend that nothing happened — they continue to promote the version about the strike “exclusively on civilians”.
❓Why hold military ceremonies in a city that is close to the line of combat contact?
|🇷🇺🇺🇦Interesting things.
The mayor of Konotop in the Sumy region demanded that the head of the Sumy regional administration kneel and apologize by 18:00, resign, and also dismiss the head of the local SBU .
Otherwise, the mayor of Konotop promised to tell the truth about what happened during the missile strike on Sumy.
https://x.com/SMO_VZ/status/1911377546131746946
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 13 2025 17:32 utc | 21
Plain, clear and obvious that the entire hoo-ha about the EU “leaders” is little more than picking up on the long standing Zillionaire scheme here in this ruptured republic favoring the Oligarch shareholders in the WarDefense cover-up of profiteering on a gigantuan scale.
The entire WarDefense business plan is about screwing the working and middle classes and maintaining obscene greed in the drivers’ seat.
Posted by: aristodemos | Apr 13 2025 15:49 utc | 10
Can’t say I disagree.
Meanwhile (and this time before our friend comes whining about how small the advance was) let’s see the latest update on AFU losses. Still low but added bonus an f16 and a couple of MLRS
The continuation of the destruction of the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the Kursk and Sumy regions. Clarifying the border of the Russian Federation in the Oleshnya-Gornal area.
Liberation of new regions of the Russian Federation
The complete liberation of Elizavetovka (the map is being updated). Expansion of control north of the Free Field, south of Zaporozhye, attack on Troitskoye. A small advance northeast of Nadezhdinka, in the western part of Udachnoye, in the east of Vasyukovka. The advance is more than a kilometer in all directions from Novoretsky. Significant expansion of control from Novoaleksandrovka to Alexandropol, including Kalinovo. The progress north of Friendship continues. A successful counterattack by the Ukrainian Armed Forces in the central part of the Yara Clock.
The day before: Wedging in the direction of Shevchenko from Burlatsky.
The daily losses of the Armed Forces of Ukraine amounted to 1,470 soldiers, 435 of them in the Pokrovsky direction (Center), 295 in Donetsk (South), 260 in Kupyansk (West), 130 in South Donetsk (East), 90 in Kharkov (North, including Belgorod), 70 in Kherson (Dnieper). 190 Ukrainian Armed Forces militants were killed in the Sumy area.
Posted by: Newbie | Apr 13 2025 17:33 utc | 22
Mass casualty event of Nato mercenaries in Sumy, Sumy governor and SBU head resignation demanded, Azov crying as loud as heard on the other side of the world.
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 13 2025 17:36 utc | 23
Estonia has detained a cargo ship in the Baltic it says was part of Russia’s “shadow fleet”, and passed a law saying their six boat navy is allowed to sink Russian ships now.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 13 2025 17:47 utc | 24
@unimperator | 21
“Mr. President, is this OK to you?
Here’s a toxic tought – don your alu caps, everyone! – –
Perhaps Mr President is very much okay with getting his officers destroyed. The junior grades, too, and if they wear medals and ride a proper APC then even better. It gets more of the Volkssturm brigades ground in the trenches that way, faster, pussycat, KILL KILL!
Posted by: persiflo | Apr 13 2025 17:48 utc | 25
“Lavrov at Antalya Diplomatic Forum” mostly discussed Ukraine for an hour.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 13 2025 15:14 utc | 4
Russia, dear boy, is not “whining.” Russia is observing, and pointing out. And the SMO continues.
Posted by: Hunsdon | Apr 13 2025 17:55 utc | 27
BooHoo,the AFU awards ceremony was bombed. What about the Ukrainian crimes? It is soo ridiculous that it not really worth comment.
Posted by: Stierlitz | Apr 13 2025 18:04 utc | 28
@ karlof1 | Apr 13 2025 17:52 utc | 26 with the link to the latest Lavrov interview…thanks
Below is a quote from it I liked
Everyone is missing the key point. The leaders of the Brussels bureaucracy say that it is necessary to reach an agreement that should ultimately guarantee Ukraine’s sovereignty. By the way, they did not mention territorial integrity. Only sovereignty. I have a question for them: do they really mean that they want to have peacekeepers in order to preserve the regime that Vladimir Zelensky is currently heading? Do they want to ask this regime whether it is interested in fulfilling international obligations, including the UN Charter, regarding the rights of ethnic minorities, language and religion? No one raises this issue. Therefore, my conclusion is as follows: ignoring the gross violation of all international human rights norms by the Zelensky regime and at the same time discussing the deployment of peacekeeping or stabilisation forces in the rest of Ukraine, they want to use them not to maintain peace, but to preserve and protect the Nazi regime. This is a key point. Everything else is a smokescreen.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 13 2025 18:05 utc | 29
Posted by: Hunsdon | Apr 13 2025 17:55 utc | 27
It is entirely possible that Russia is waiting for the 30 cease fire to expire (April 18) after which they will unleash a massive attack (maybe wishful thinking)
Posted by: ctiger | Apr 13 2025 18:12 utc | 30
Attacks after the ceasefire..
Given past history Russia will attack for best effect, not because it’s a certain date. There’s something to be gained by a couple fake outs though. Russia doesn’t have munitions to waste on anything other than militarily effective attacks.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Apr 13 2025 18:20 utc | 31
Posted by: vargas | Apr 13 2025 16:14 utc | 13
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Most humans are herd animals (tribal and emotional) that will follow the lead animal so long as it appears strong.
I don’t think the average European NATO fan knows much about anything related to Russia, nor does their ignorance bother them much.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 13 2025 18:24 utc | 32
It appears that the Russian strike on Sumy has become a political hot potato in Ukraine:
Mayor of Konotop shut his mouth: Yermak was able to put out the squabble in Sumy — “Legitimate”
The head of the Office of the President (OP) of Ukraine, Andriy Yermak, was able to put out the squabble in Sumy, which began due to today’s tragedy in connection with a missile strike on the gathering place of servicemen of the 117th Air Defense Brigade in connection with the anniversary of the formation of the unit, where children were invited, among others. This is reported by the telegram channel “Legitimate”.
“The mouth of the mayor of Konotop (Artem Seminikhin) and others has been closed for now. The mayor promised to tell something at 18.00 (they called him from the SBU, warned him not to say anything, even if it was true, otherwise he would get an article for working for Kremlin propaganda). Yermak saved “his governor”, who, for the sake of hype, gathered a soldier in the center of Sum, and even this “head of the military administration” sent out an invitation to the event specifically to all civil organizations and the media,” writes TK.
According to him, many came to the events with whole families.
“We are surprised that Bankova is still trying to hype on this tragedy, saying that the Kremlin is bad, but does not say that the tragedy would not have happened if officials had not arranged a military celebration in the city center. Everyone is to blame for this situation! Even those who go to such an event in the third year of the war, realizing that they will arrive by 70%!” — sums up the “Legitimate”.
As EADaily reported, the 117th Air Defense Brigade, which celebrated the 7th anniversary of its creation, was gathering at the site of today’s attack on Sumy, the military was not injured because they were in hiding. This was stated by the mayor of Konotop Artem Seminikhin.
According to Semenikhin, a criminal case has been opened to answer the question of who organized the military meeting.
Earlier, the mayor of Konotop called on the head of Sumy OVA Vladimir Artyukh and the head of the regional SBU to resign immediately after the missile attack on Sumy. He stated this in his video message, without choosing expressions.
https://eadaily.com/en/news/2025/04/13/mayor-of-konotop-shut-his-mouth-yermak-was-able-to-put-out-the-squabble-in-sumy-legitimate
Of course, we all have the utmost faith in the freedom and democracy of the Ukrainian justice system to hold those responsible to account, don’t we…?
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 13 2025 19:40 utc | 33
@ bored, §1:
Just goes to show the power of Goebbels´s methods.
Posted by: John Marks | Apr 13 2025 19:40 utc | 34
Posted by: ctiger | Apr 13 2025 18:12 utc | 30
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Apr 13 2025 18:20 utc | 31
I can’t help but ask what ceasefire you guys are referring to. Russia just bombed an AFU awards ceremony as noted by the posters above you. They also took out a bunch of targets in Kiev including a patriot launcher a few days ago. Along with general advances by their infantry. Seems like this mythical ceasefire doesn’t exist.
Posted by: Autumn | Apr 13 2025 19:44 utc | 35
Posted by: Autumn | Apr 13 2025 19:44 utc
Isn’t the ceasefire limited to ceasing fire on energy infrastructure? The ceasefire that Russia has abided by and Ukraine has violated scores of times.
Posted by: spudski | Apr 13 2025 19:48 utc | 36
Posted by: spudski | Apr 13 2025 19:48 utc | 36
My understanding was that there was a ceasefire proposal on energy infrastructure, but it never left off the ground due to Ukrainian attacks.
Posted by: Autumn | Apr 13 2025 19:59 utc | 37
The general message of the posters above does not seem to be referring to energy infrastructure anyway, but that Russia is holding back somehow or not attacking.
Which is really incongruous to the news we’ve heard so far, so I felt I had to point this out.
Posted by: Autumn | Apr 13 2025 20:03 utc | 38
Autumn | Apr 13 2025 19:59 utc | 37–
As Lavrov said yesterday at Antalya, Russia has strictly observed the limited ceasefire from the outset even while the Nazis violate it almost daily. As psychohistorian noted in his comment @29 above, a number of crucial “nuances” have yet to be discussed in the negotiations let alone published by Western BigLie Media. I suggest you click the link to the translation I provided and learn.
My understanding was that there was a ceasefire proposal on energy infrastructure, but it never left off the ground due to Ukrainian attacks.
Posted by: Autumn | Apr 13 2025 19:59 utc | 37
That’s also my understanding, plus the tentative “ceasefire” was primarily intended to give His Royal Orangeness a quick media win…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 13 2025 20:17 utc | 40
The Russians have observed the ceasefire limited to energy infrastructure – as was agreed. Kiev said they would follow it, though this has net happened – perhaps they have lost operational control of their armed forces completely.
Ukraine is also reported to store NATO equipment at various power stations, during the ceasefire.
Posted by: Richard Head | Apr 13 2025 20:35 utc | 41
TV news clip about Sumy – they mentioned everything, except that it was a military awards ceremony of the Ukrainian army. The news clip was in the style last seen at the beginning of the war. The wildly moving camera, giving the impression of an amateur video. The breathless interviews with eye witnesses. The mention of dead babies, but never of dead soldiers. So I’m wondering: is this the Americans making another news clip for Ukraine, or is this the Ukrainians themselves who have learned the recipe “how to make a video for EU and North America”?
Posted by: Passerby | Apr 13 2025 20:35 utc | 42
It’s never a great idea to give the western media a easy ball to hit. This will be worked to death in a the Propoganda for the next war. It won’t matter it was a legitimate military target. It’s just a new bucha. As that lie is fully revealed.
Kids, we are all kids, will be shown this on repeat like twin towers, the bullshittery of the war on terror. The other false flags.
To the last collective waster we go. It’s down to us parents and grandparents not to fall for it. Again.
As I’ve said before this only ends when the far behind the lines capos, they only understand one language, on their superyachts, estates, secret islands get a visit for Mr Kinz Hell, that this will end. I don’t mean just ukraine.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 13 2025 20:43 utc | 43
Posted by: Newbie | Apr 13 2025 15:33 utc | 7
German over-engineering seems to be a cultural feature, ok for commercial vehicles (unless your a private owner facing the repair bill) but not good for military platforms fighting in wartime conditions that they were not designed for. Official comparisons between platforms are rarely publicised during a conflict, so these revelations have to be treated with caution, and their motive doubted.
These type of releases will not be alone as the post-conflict narrative is being actively shaped by interested parties on all sides, for all the usual reasons.
Posted by: Milites | Apr 13 2025 20:45 utc | 44
As Lavrov said yesterday at Antalya, Russia has strictly observed the limited ceasefire from the outset even while the Nazis violate it almost daily. As psychohistorian noted in his comment @29 above, a number of crucial “nuances” have yet to be discussed in the negotiations let alone published by Western BigLie Media. I suggest you click the link to the translation I provided and learn.
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 13 2025 20:14 utc | 39
“Another initiative of US President Donald Trump was a 30-day moratorium–-not a complete ceasefire, but a 30-day moratorium on attacks on energy infrastructure. During the telephone conversation, President of Russia Vladimir Putin agreed and ordered the Chief of the General Staff to stop attacks on Ukrainian energy infrastructure, including those related to the Armed Forces of Ukraine. At that moment, there were seven Russian drones in the air. Vladimir Putin gave the order to shoot them down, which was done. Since then, we have kept our word, and the Ukrainians attack us every day, with maybe two or three exceptions.”
I’m flabbergasted at Lavrov even abiding by a limited ceasefire on energy, and to proudly wear the badge of continuing to abiding by it even after getting attacked by Ukraine to boot.
Am I understanding this correctly?
I thought the deal would be off after Ukraine first attacked, but it looks like you’re saying this is not the case?
Or are the attacks by Ukraine not on energy infrastructure and are normal attacks so the deal is still ongoing.
Posted by: Autumn | Apr 13 2025 20:51 utc | 45
the energy ceasefire was nothing but a ruse by Russia. winter is over. Russia doesnt need to hit energy infrastructure for another six months.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 13 2025 20:55 utc | 46
Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 13 2025 20:43 utc | 43
its not even on the radar in us news.
all radar in us news is amd will ne focused on two words, “Trump” and “Elon”. Any other news is annoying filler to these people looking for their hate fix.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 13 2025 21:05 utc | 47
Posted by: vargas | Apr 13 2025 16:14 utc | 13
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The « common people » is ready to send Ukrainians to the slaughter. But they won’t take the arms themselves, for the very reason you mentioned.
Hot air.
Posted by: scc | Apr 13 2025 21:06 utc | 48
Well, the Nazis have sunk to a new low hosting a children’s party at a military event for the Kurst invaders.
I suppose they will be sending children to the front line next.
There’s a video with Ukrainian teens playing the Russian anthem in Sumy after the strike, not much longer peeps.
Trubind1, gfy.
Posted by: Suresh | Apr 13 2025 21:12 utc | 49
the energy ceasefire was nothing but a ruse by Russia. winter is over. Russia doesnt need to hit energy infrastructure for another six months.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 13 2025 20:55 utc | 46
So they’re going to continue to attack Ukraine conventionally in other areas. Ukraine is also doing the same.
At the same time if Ukrainian continues to attack Russia energy but Russia refrains from doing so, just to say they’re abiding by this deal where they’re the only adherent… it seems rather pointless I have to say.
Posted by: Autumn | Apr 13 2025 21:14 utc | 50
DunGroanin | Apr 13 2025 20:43 utc | 43
*** As I’ve said before this only ends when the far behind the lines capos, they only understand one language, on their superyachts, estates, secret islands get a visit for Mr Kinz Hell, that this will end. I don’t mean just ukraine.***
Totally agree.
Posted by: Cynic | Apr 13 2025 21:16 utc | 51
Alexander Mercouris YT homily this evening included an interesting and important insight into the USA armed forces.
https://youtu.be/0GU4y10nST0?si=PpVU6pVcrzf0xPE5
Namely, that promotion above a certain rank in the U.S. military requires vetting for correctness of the political views and allegiances of the individual concerned. This is no doubt well known by many but explains the inane political utterances of many senior U.S. military officers. For instance the witless blathering by General Cavoli on the racial inferiority of Russians and the victory of Ukraine any day now. Also another U.S. general a few years ago who opined publicly that in WW2, no Russians died – not a single Russian casualty was caused in that war. (Did Russia somehow discover the key to immortality between 1941 and 1945?) Only Ukraine bore the brunt of defeating the German Nazis – with whom they also collaborated against Russia (while not succeeding in killing a single Russian). Beyond insanity but explainable only as political conformity. Or being abjectly brainwashed by Ukrainian handlers.
All this makes the U.S. military closely resemble the Soviet armed forces in Stalin’s time in that they US has the equivalent of the Soviet NKVD – the political police supervising the armed forces and closely scrutinising the politics of all officers. Back in the USSA.
Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Apr 13 2025 21:17 utc | 52
it seems rather pointless I have to say.
Posted by: Autumn | Apr 13 2025 21:14 utc | 5
about as pointless as attacking energy infrastructure
but when the next “partial ceasefire” is proposed, Russia can point to this ad-hoc energy ceasefire and say, ‘we did, they didnt”.
Ot is actually pointless for Russia to claim they want peace, but diplomatic and propaganda games must be played.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 13 2025 21:25 utc | 53
vargass @13: “European really hate Russians, love this war and they are eager to participate.”
LMAO!
Is that so? What is stopping them? They want to join the party, then just join it. Nobody is holding them back.
No, the Europeons are just pussies who only talked tough when they thought America was going to supply the cannon fodder and foot the bill.
The frogs and sLimeys are as dumb as polacks, so they might try a reenactment of the “Charge of the Light Brigade”, but beyond that stupidity there will be no serious Europeon troop commitments to Ukropia.
Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 13 2025 21:29 utc | 54
about as pointless as attacking energy infrastructure
but when the next “partial ceasefire” is proposed, Russia can point to this ad-hoc energy ceasefire and say, ‘we did, they didnt”.
Ot is actually pointless for Russia to claim they want peace, but diplomatic and propaganda games must be played.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 13 2025 21:25 utc | 53
Not like they don’t have all the precedents they need from the Minsc agreements.
Continuing to be overly accommodative in these diplomatic gestures just causes confusion to outside observers and lends more fuel to western propaganda mills as a sign of weakness.
Posted by: Autumn | Apr 13 2025 21:41 utc | 55
DS daily map update:
https://deepstatemap.live/en#6/49.4383200/32.0526800
Overall: Another poor day, in APR, taking only 6.0 kmsq.
Specific changes, S to N:
1. Preorezhynka (DP front).
2. Near Udache/Kotylne (W Pokrosk front, mildly strategic).
3. Valentynivka (N Oche front).
4. Yampolivka (Terne sector).
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 13 2025 21:43 utc | 56
Continuing to be overly accommodative in these diplomatic gestures just causes confusion to outside observers and lends more fuel to western propaganda mills as a sign of weakness.
Posted by: Autumn | Apr 13 2025 21:41 utc | 55
oh no, not confusion in war, cant have that.
And west talks like Russia is weak, but let me know when any single one of them decide they are gonna send in their army to help Ukraine.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 13 2025 21:48 utc | 57
Also
lets stop playing patty-cake. Nobody adhered to minsk starting day 1. Russian or otherwise.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 13 2025 21:52 utc | 59
It’s just a new bucha. As that lie is fully revealed.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 13 2025 20:43 utc | 43
oh that lie is still going strong in germany, especially in the comment sections of the axel springer variety (welt, bild etc)
speaking of bild, their latest is “russland ermordet 31 zivilisten in sumy”, “russia murders 31 civilians in sumy”. note “murders”. usually its “kills”, but now we have to drive that “with intent” into the minds of the gullible german dummköpfe, who will swallow this shit with pride.
oh, and speaking of the us, marco rubio tweeted
The United States extends our deepest condolences to the victims of today’s horrifying Russian missile attack on Sumy.
This is a tragic reminder of why President Trump and his Administration are putting so much time and effort into trying to end this war and achieve durable peace.
all while they bomb yemeni civilians. and provide weapons for genocide. but hey, they put “time and effort” for peace of something.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 13 2025 21:55 utc | 60
lets stop playing patty-cake. Nobody adhered to minsk starting day 1. Russian or otherwise.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 13 2025 21:52 utc | 59
Wrong. Russia respected the agreements.
Posted by: Naive | Apr 13 2025 21:57 utc | 61
The hit on Sumy is a slap in the face of narcissic trump.
Now I am wondering who gave the order to hit Sumy. In any case, well done.
The western one-sided merdia reactions show their total hypocrisy.
Posted by: Naive | Apr 13 2025 22:01 utc | 62
Overall: Another poor day
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 13 2025 21:43 utc | 56
So why is there so much caterwauling from Sumy?
I’d like you to imagine the howls when Russia has a “good day”…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 13 2025 22:09 utc | 63
As I’ve said before this only ends when the far behind the lines capos, they only understand one language, on their superyachts, estates, secret islands get a visit for Mr Kinz Hell, that this will end. I don’t mean just ukraine.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 13 2025 20:43 utc | 43
Agreed. Unequivocally.
1M+ dead Ukies. 100K dead Rus.
It is time to put “their” skin into the game.
Posted by: Original Newbie | Apr 13 2025 22:12 utc | 64
The limited ceasefire on energy infrastructure is really a test to see whether Trump can get Kyiv to abide by any restriction.
Soon after the ceasefire was announced, we immediately saw drone attacks on fuel depots and gas pipelines inside Russia … almost like they wanted to deliberately violate the ceasefire … just to prove that every red line will be crossed always.
Trump doesn’t properly control the situation on his own side … I hope he tracks down the internal traitors who are insubordinate to their President … but if Trump can’t get a grip then Russia won’t deal on any of the bigger issues. In the meantime, there remains a significant faction within the US military who are determined to derail all peace negotiations.
Posted by: Tel | Apr 13 2025 22:15 utc | 65
I guess with the “the Russians are coming, the Russians are coming” spooky promised big push moved from spring to summer, I have another couple months of crap advances to endure. What a snail war.
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 13 2025 22:17 utc | 66
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 13 2025 22:17 utc | 66
if you count by body stacks, its going faster than vietnam, iraq, afghanistan 84 or 01, or anything since Korea 50s.
Hell, its going faster than Israel-Hamas, both in dead and land taken.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 13 2025 22:21 utc | 67
oh, and speaking of the us, marco rubio tweeted
The United States extends our deepest condolences to the victims of the ongoing genocide by Israel attack on Gaza.
This is a tragic reminder of why President Trump and his Administration are putting no time and effort into trying to end this war and achieve durable peace.
[…]
Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 13 2025 21:55 utc | 60
Correction above in bold characters.
Posted by: Naive | Apr 13 2025 22:22 utc | 68
Overall: Another poor day
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 13 2025 21:43 utc | 56
Indeed a very poor day for the award ceremony in Sumy.
Fuck off ukronazi troll!
Posted by: Naive | Apr 13 2025 22:24 utc | 69
“the Russians are coming, the Russians are coming”
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 13 2025 22:17 utc | 66
Meh, I’ve been hearing that for most of my life; it starts to get jaded after 60-odd years.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 13 2025 22:25 utc | 70
Man…so boring.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/022/747/Do_Something_meme_banner_imag.jpg
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 13 2025 22:30 utc | 71
also:”overly accommodative”
ok, GM.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 13 2025 21:50 utc | 58
Ok channeling my inner GM here.
If diplomatic skill is measured as the ability to convince your opponent into agreeing to deals that are detrimental to their interests, then clearly the current Russian approach hasn’t worked. They have been throwing fruit loops after fruit loops at the west as diplomatic gestures but constantly getting convinced into deals where they get backstabbed. Their current progress in the Ukraine conflict is largely thanks to the strength of their military rather than their diplomacy.
On the other hand, if you judge US diplomacy by the same standards, you can see that despite their aggressive non-diplomatic language, they have been far more skilled in “diplomacy.” Not only have they convinced Russia into taking these bad deals, but also convinced Europe, Japan, and South Korea to tank their own economies and support US war efforts free of charge.
Oh right, and funny enough, getting lectured by Pete Hegseth about “not doing enough” to boot before obediently complying.
Sounds to me like Lavrov should rethink their diplomatic strategy.
Posted by: Autumn | Apr 13 2025 22:37 utc | 72
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 13 2025 22:30 utc | 71
Playing “Call Of Duty” does not qualify you to serve as part of the Russian General Staff.
Have you tried Reddit? It might be more your scene…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 13 2025 22:46 utc | 73
“Putin demands Trump end this ‘senseless’ war”—a headline we’ll not see in Regime Media in the U.S.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 13 2025 22:50 utc | 74
The limited ceasefire on energy infrastructure is really a test to see whether Trump can get Kyiv to abide by any restriction.
Posted by: Tel | Apr 13 2025 22:15 utc | 65
I would buy this explanation if it were not for the fact that Trump gave Zelenskyy a very public tongue lashing, pissed him off majorly, but Zelenskyy came back and obediently handed the rights to Ukraine’s minerals and ports soon after.
If Trump says jump, Zelenskyy has no choice but to say how high.
Posted by: Autumn | Apr 13 2025 22:50 utc | 75
So, who exactly were the Nazis?
Seeing that many of the politicians in “neo-Nazi” Ukraine are Jews, or of Jewish descent, I wondered if the same may have been true in Nazi Germany. So, I checked the surnames of a large number of people from the Nazi era. What I found is truly amazing. Note that all surnames designated Jewish can be found in one of the books on Jewish Genealogy listed below.
Adolf Hitler [Jew surname].
Below is a list of Nazi Field Marshalls.
Looks like they were all of Jewish descent.
Fedor von Bock [Jew surname].
Werner von Blomberg [Jew surname].
Walther von Brauchitsch = Brauch-itsch [Jew surname-son of]
Ernst von Busch [Jew surname].
Hermann Göring = Gör-Ring [Jew surname-Jew surname] Luftwaffe.
Wilhelm Ritter von Leeb [variant of Jew surname Lieb?]
Wilhelm Keitel [Jew surname].
Albert Kesselring = Kessel-Ring [Jew surname-Jew surname] Luftwaffe.
Ewald von Kleist [Jew surname].
Gunther von Kluge [Jew surname].
Georg von Küchler [Jew surname].
Wilhelm List [Jew surname].
Erich von Manstein [Jew surname]. Born Lewinski [Jew surname].
Erhard Milch [Jew surname] Luftwaffe.
Walther Model [Jew surname].
Friedrich von Paulus [variant of the Jew surname Paul?]
Walther von Reichenau = Reiche-Nau = [Jew surname-Jew surname]
Erwin Rommel [variant of Jew names Frommel and Trommel?]
Gerd von Rundstedt = Rund-stedt [Jew surname-town]
Ferdinand Schörner [variant of the Jew surname Tschorne?]
Hugo Sperrle = Sperr-le = [Jew surname-common suffix] Luftwaffe.
Erwin von Witzleben [variant of Witzler-ben? Jew surname-son of]
Those of Jewish descent in Hitler’s life (non-military).
Martin Bormann [Jew surname]. Hitler’s private secretary. Money man.
Eva Braun [Jew surname]. Hitler’s mistress and wife.
Hans Frank [Jew surname]. Hitler’s lawyer.
Ulrich Graf [Jew surname]. Hitler’s personal companion 1920-1923.
Gertrud Junge [Jew surname] nee Gertrud Humps. Hitler’s private secretary.
Theodor Morell [Jew surname]. One of Hitler’s personal physicians.
Karl Brandt [Jew surname]. One of Hitler’s personal physicians.
Albert Speer [Jew surname]. Hitler’s personal architect and city planner.
Fritz Wiedemann [Jew surname]. Personal adjutant to Hitler.
Julius Schreck [Jew surname]. Hitler’s chauffeur.
Karl von Frank [Jew surname]. Hitler’s genealogist.
Hugo Blaschke [Jew surname]. Hitler’s dentist.
Hugo Erlanger [Jew surname]. Hitler’s landlord for ten years.
Some others.
Adolf Eichmann [Jew surname]. Head of the Scientific Museum for Jewish Affairs.
Rudolf Hess [Jew surname]. Deputy to the Fuehrer.
Heinrich Himmler [Jew surname]. Leading National Socialist politician.
Alfred Rosenberg [Jew surname]. Leading proponent of National Socialist ideology.
Julius Streicher [Jew surname]. National Socialist politician.
Wilhelm Messerschmitt [Jew surname]. Aircraft designer and manufacturer.
Hjalmar Schacht [Jew surname]. Financier, president of the Reichsbank.
Joseph Goebbels [variant of the Jew surname Göbel?] National Socialist politician and propagandist.
Reinhard Heydrich = Heyd-Rich [Jew surname-Jew surname] Administrator of the concentration camps.
Here is a list of Nazi Chiefs of General Staff.
They were probably all of Jewish descent.
Heinz Guderian [Jew surname]. Chief of General Staff Jul 1944 to Mar 1945
Adolf Heusinger [Jew surname] Chief of General Staff Jun 1944 to Jul 1944
Kurt Zeitzler [variant of the Jew name Weitzler?] Chief of General Staff Sep 1942 to Jul 1944
Franz Halder [variant of the Jew name Halde?] Chief of General Staff Sep 1938 to Sep 1942
Ludwig Beck [Jew surname] Chief of General Staff Jul 1935 to Aug 1938
Various leaders.
იოსებ ჯუღაშვილი [variant of the Jew name ჯუდაშვილი] (Joseph Stalin) General Secretary of the Soviet Union; ჯუდაშვილი translated means “son of Judah”.
Mikhail Gorbachev [variant of the Jew name Gorbaczyński?] President of the Soviet Union
Boris Yeltsin [variant of the Jew name Peltson?] President of Russia
Vladimir Putin [variant of the Jew names Jutin Kutin Mutin Rutin Yutin?] President of Russia [Владимир Путин]
Angela Merkel [Jew surname] nee Kasner [Jew surname] Chancellor of Germany
Olaf Sholtz [variant of the Jew name Shultz?] Chancellor of Germany
Friedrich Merz [Jew surname] German politician (Head of CDU)
Annalena Baerbock Baer-Bock [Jew surname-Jew surname] German Foreign Minister
Adolf Hitler [Jew surname] Chancellor of Germany
Franklin Roosevelt [variant of the Jew name Rosenfelt] President USA
George Bush [variant of the Jew name Busch?] President USA
Donald Trump [variant of the Jew name Trumpf?] President USA
Stepan Bandera [variant of the Jew surname Bander?] Ukrainian Nationalist
Volodymyr Zelensky [Jew surname] President of Ukraine
Volodymyr Groysman [Jew surname] Prime Minister of Ukraine
Denys Shmigal [variant of the Jew name Schmigelski] Prime Minister of Ukraine
Vitali Klitschko [variant of the Jew name Klitsch?] Mayor of Kiev
Lech Kaczyński [Jew surname] President of Poland
Jarosław Kaczyński [Jew surname] Prime Minister of Poland
Mateusz Morawiecki [variant of the Jew names Morawiec Morawietz etc?] Prime Minister of Poland
Pedro Sanchez [Jew surname] Prime Minister of Spain
Mark Rutte [Jew surname] Dutch Prime Minister
Giorgia Meloni [variant of the Jew name Melon?] Italian Prime Minister
Kaja Kallas [variant of the Jew names Khallas Callas Challas?] Prime Minister of Estonia
Mette Frederiksen [Jew surname-son of] Prime Minister of Denmark
Petr Pavel [Jew surname] Czech President; Chief of the NATO Military Committee
Klaus Johannis [Jew surname] President of Romania
Jaap Scheffer [Jew surname] NATO Secretary General 2004-2009
Jens Stoltenberg [variant of the Jew name Stoltzenberg?] NATO Secretary General 2014-
Charles Michel [Jew surname] European Council President
Ursula von der Leyen [Jew surname] nee Albrecht [Jew surname] President of the European Commission
Posted by: Mark Rutte | Apr 13 2025 22:59 utc | 76
🔊👉🪖The NATO alliance is determined to completely close the Baltic Sea to Russian maritime trade, thereby blocking half of Russia’s hydrocarbon exports and ensuring a naval blockade of Kaliningrad.
The alliance is convinced that Russia will not dare to interfere in any way in the action of turning the Baltic Sea into its own sandbox, where even fish will not swim without permission from the Anglo-Saxons.
This is such a bad idea. Russia has been upgrading its navy and can easily brush aside NATO’s warships.
Kaliningrad is armed to the teeth, and messing with it will not go well for the Euros.
IIRC, Kaliningrad has that eWar system which creates an electromagnetic field that disrupts GPS. European airlines already try to avoid flying over that area out of caution.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 13 2025 23:07 utc | 77
If diplomatic skill is measured as the ability to convince your opponent into agreeing to deals that are detrimental to their interests…
Posted by: Autumn | Apr 13 2025 22:37 utc | 72
what? It’s not. Idiot.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 13 2025 23:10 utc | 78
@ persiflo | Apr 13 2025 15:29 utc | 5
Cupholders n seat cushions 😹
Paranoïa often only exaggerates a healthy wariness💎
Posted by: Featherless | Apr 13 2025 23:16 utc | 79
p.s.
to all who dont know,
GM is shadowbanned’s moniker on Substack, where he now spams Simplicious’ comments with dozens of his longwinded bullshit essays, and, is usually there starting his bullshit as soon as simplicius posts a new article. Yesterday, when I first read the article, there were only about 12 comments, and he had already posted about 6 of the first twelve comments.
Just like he used to do here
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 13 2025 23:16 utc | 80
The civilians who perished as collateral damage during the ill-conceived military ceremony near a schoolyard in Sumy would still be alive, had NATO & the AFU not brought the war to them.
It’s obvious that Project Ukraine needs a Coalition of the Commonsensical.
Besides which, a limited ceasefire on energy infrastructure did not in any way cover military ceremonies next to playgrounds.
My thought: the complexity of the war right now is such that it is not possible for an entity like the UN, for instance, to oversee or govern the entire frontline, not to mention rear-ward areas.
It is impossible, straight-out, for a belligerent in the war, like the U.S. to attempt to adjudicate such matters. We’ll continually hear Sec Rubio express his sorrow about playground deaths in Ukraine but remain mute when shoppers @ a farmer’s market in Belgorod perish.
The imbalance is intractable.
It is good that Russia continues to engage w/ interlocutors from the U.S., naturally. But it is important to be clear-eyed about the untenable aspect of the U.S., a belligerent, to fashion itself as a mediator.
VVP to DJT: “End this senseless war-!”
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 13 2025 23:21 utc | 81
Kellogg corny-flaky plan to partition Ukraine
New leaks show US plans to divide Ukraine.
https://youtu.be/oCKsr7RIe_4?si=5BtudEwyLLme3VjC
Good luck with that.
A chihuahua yaps: please notice us!
The prime minister of Estonia asked Russians to take anti-Russian sanctions more seriously.
“Russians allow themselves to joke on the internet about each new package of sanctions, they openly mock our work.
I beg them to take this seriously and show at least some respect.
§| aww. Paw lil chihuahua, barking mad no-one takes their annoying yapping seriously.
—-
Mind. If they fuck too much with Russian shipping, they might get very “noticed” .
Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 13 2025 23:26 utc | 82
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 13 2025 23:21 utc | 81
############
When it comes to Russia, China, and Iran, I think all 3 are happy to talk and keep the Americans distracted to buy more time.
The US has financial troubles incoming, which will be difficult to avoid and will put the US in a much weaker future negotiating position.
The smart move, IMO, is to keep talking and commit to nothing that they do not want to.
The Chinese are masters at talking without committing to anything. The Persians are not far behind.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 13 2025 23:31 utc | 83
@ Autumn
No Russian official nor diplomat expected banderastan to abide by anything. This is clearly calculated. A test to see what new US admin is worth and capable of.
Russia, once again, get to show the rest of the world what is going on. That, with an added bonus to shove new president Trump into the well-recorded fact that he can’t even control his own proxy. Now that’s an actual, private humiliation.
Importantly, Russia loses nothing by demonstrably sticking by their word. Not hitting energy transmission/generation for 30 days in Spring has no effect on any operation. At all. Rate of major strikes on 404’s energy infrastructure has been averaging at about once a month anyway, making this a complete triviality.
According to Russia’s chief diplomat negotiations will have no effect on execution of the SMO until all Russian demands are met. This is self-evidently still the case.
@ Justpassinby | Apr 13 2025 21:55 utc | 60
The United States extends our deepest condolences to the victims of today’s horrifying Russian missile attack on Sumy.
Worth pointing out that this is still a rather mild statement. US maintain their shift in public diplomatic tone.
Posted by: boneless | Apr 13 2025 23:54 utc | 84
Blue & yellow propaganda, whether concerning maternity hospitals in Mariupol or cadavers on the streets in Bucha or playgrounds in Sumy, have not & will not turn the tide in Project Ukraine.
The adversary, lacking military advantage, augurs for narrative benefit.
Which does not, and will not, exist.
It may play well in the echo chamber Regime Media, populated by the likes of The Economist, the nytimes, WSJ & the WaPo and also the FT, but the war has persisted for more than three years, and the Regime Media has yet to score a ‘W.’
By the way, remind me—how many divisions does the Regime Media have-?
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 13 2025 23:56 utc | 85
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 13 2025 23:56 utc | 85
The thing is, Mr Porcupine, they’re failing in their main task which to influence the narrative in the Russian world in order to create discontent in Russia and ultimately the toppling of the present leadership.
Posted by: HERMIUS | Apr 14 2025 0:09 utc | 86
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 13 2025 23:31 utc | 83
RE: keep the U.S. talking
<<
The jaw-jaw, not the war-war.
By summer, the last vestiges of Collective Biden's shipments from Poland will have ended---and DJT, whose motto is "Put up or shut up," has to decide whether to ask Congress for more military support for Ukraine, or just to walk away.
We know that resupplying Ukraine through public funds will *not* go over well.
The least the U.S. can do right now is to continue practical steps for normalizing ties w/ Russia. As the AFU withers & declines on the battlefield, there is very little the U.S. can do now to alter that.
As much as the fortunes of the war have seemed, at least in the eyes of the Regime Media in the U.S., to hinge on promulgating fairy tales about Ukraine's gains & advances, we see actually that fabrications & fantasies from the U.S. have not governed anything tangibly on the battlefield as far as gains & losses are concerned.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 14 2025 0:15 utc | 87
Indeed a very poor day for the award ceremony in Sumy.
Fuck off ukronazi troll!
Posted by: Naive | Apr 13 2025 22:24 utc | 69
It was supposed to be a special day, where they and all their spawn celebrated their first anniversary.
What kind of air defense team breaks all air defense protocol and gathers up in one area anyway?
Their demise is hilariously ironic on so many lebels XD
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 14 2025 0:17 utc | 88
“oh, and speaking of the us, marco rubio”
Isn’t the real Secretary of State, Trump’s right hand man, Witkoff?
Every time Marco opens his gob, more Neocon sludge dribbles out.
Posted by: kupkee | Apr 14 2025 0:23 utc | 89
Posted by: HERMIUS | Apr 14 2025 0:09 utc | 86
RE: the U.S.’s failing narrative
<<
Lies don't start being true through repetition. I know this flies in the face of marketing & public relations, but when it comes to hard gritty realities on the battlefield, the lies hold no sway.
When the marketing & public relations kick forth *no* deliverables, they can't sustain themselves. They fail.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 14 2025 0:23 utc | 90
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 14 2025 0:15 utc | 87
##############
I don’t know how accurate this is, but I never believed for one second that Trump was going to stop the Ukraine war.
The flow of US weapons, munitions, support and aid for Ukraine continues with Kalitta Air’s N713CK as CMB474 landing in Rzeszow, Poland from Dover AFB, DE.
https://x.com/TheIntelFrog/status/1911566073272455519
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 14 2025 0:25 utc | 91
Re the awards ceremony in Sumy. Seems the recipients got the reward they truly deserved. Also seems that with these sorts of missile strikes, Russia appears to get information about such meetings that is more than could be gained by going over satellite and drone info. That is, it looks like there are a lot of people in Ukraine willing to provide that info to Russia. How they get it done without getting nabbed by the SBU is beyond me. But there are just too many of these dead on missile strikes that take out critical personnel to chalk up to good reconnaisance.
Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Apr 13 2025 21:17 utc | 52
I read once that a US general is just a politician in uniform, one adept at kissing the right butt and saying the right things, while the most competent people never rise above the rank of colonel. Makes sense.
Posted by: Mike R | Apr 14 2025 1:10 utc | 92
Autumn | Apr 13 2025 20:51 utc | 45–
You’re completely missing the optics of the Nazis refusing to abide by the agreement Zelensky assented to. That behavior factored bigtime into what Putin said to the sub crew about there being no legitimate actor to negotiate and sign the final treaty with. Plus, Lavrov doesn’t make the decisions to cease observance of something Russia has agreed to–that’s Putin’s job.
Here’s something that kinda slipped through the news cycle.
Why? Why did the Ginger Ponce, Harry, go to Ukraine?
What possible purpose / business does a “non-working” Royal have in Ukraine? (He only made it to Lviv, not the 7-hr to Kyiv.)
A: He was there for some PR pics for Invictus.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-04-11/prince-harry-meets-war-victims-in-ukraine/105165740
From this BBC piece… I predict Ukraine is going to win every Paralympics for the next 50 years…so many amputees and other wounded….
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy5rey37e1lo
Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 14 2025 1:24 utc | 94
Posted by: Autumn | Apr 13 2025 21:14 utc | 50
“At the same time if Ukrainian continues to attack Russia energy but Russia refrains from doing so, just to say they’re abiding by this deal where they’re the only adherent… it seems rather pointless I have to say.”
My guess would be that after April 18 Russia will resume strikes on energy related to military functions but won’t waste any on civilian infrastructure.
Posted by: Paranaense | Apr 14 2025 2:34 utc | 95
Mark Rutte(jewish surname) Dutch Prime minister…commenter Mark Rutte #76..one of few Bull Schitter’s on MoA…….
@Posted by: sejmon | Apr 14 2025 4:02 utc | 96
Rutte is a Dutch surname meaning “son of Rut”.
And of course Mark Rutte never lists the “books on Jewish Genealogy” he is supposedly referencing. He is full of shit, e.g. Guderian is absolutely NOT a Jewish surname. Just some anti-semitic arsehole, or someone trying to cause trouble for B.
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Apr 14 2025 4:40 utc | 97
@Posted by: sejmon | Apr 14 2025 4:02 utc | 96
Your “sejmon” handle takes me straight back to the MOA site. So who is the bull shitter?
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Apr 14 2025 4:42 utc | 98
This is NOT a joke!
Statement by the Vice President of the White House to journalists.
The United States has considerable influence over China: Washington fully finances the People’s Republic of China and its entire development and industrialization, noted Vice President Stephen Miller.
https://t.me/s/tass_agency
Posted by: Bertold | Apr 14 2025 5:31 utc | 99
“At the same time if Ukrainian continues to attack Russia energy but Russia refrains from doing so, just to say they’re abiding by this deal where they’re the only adherent… it seems rather pointless I have to say.”
My guess would be that after April 18 Russia will resume strikes on energy related to military functions but won’t waste any on civilian infrastructure.
Posted by: Paranaense | Apr 14 2025 2:34 utc | 95
Is there another possibility the Kremlin is considering regarding “counterattacks” on energy after the 30 days?
Namely, that they (the Russians) combine this counter-reaction with a counterattack, while others say “We’ve had enough, now we’ll overrun them,” hence launching a full-blown offensive…which, by the way, also confirms the “sparing” use of missiles and, importantly, the barely used artillery.
But well, we don’t have a crystal ball; what is certain is that Putin has to establish facts, facts that even Trump understands, or can no longer pretend that these facts don’t exist and that Putin is under pressure, which is what he’s currently telling the world.
Suppose Trump manages to drive his economy into the ground first, or he’s even “removed”?
Posted by: Ost Rentner | Apr 14 2025 5:45 utc | 100