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April 3, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-069
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While you were sitting in your comfortable chair in the USA today, Russia struck a Kyrvyi Rih residential neighborhood with a ballistic missile with a cluster munitions warhead [1], obliterating their homes and killing at least 18, including 9 children. [2]
Posted by: John A. La Pietra | Apr 4 2025 22:07 utc | 74
Dima included this incident in his report this morning and yes indeed the Russians struck a resturant in a reseidential neighborhood with ballistic missiles and I don’t doubt they used cluster rounds because Biden gave cluster rounds to the Ukrainians who used them first … cluster rounds are very effective.
You could blame the Russians for this or you could blame the NATO and Ukrainian officers who were reported having a meeting / party at the resturant.
This is war and if your military leadership is so cowardly as to have a party in a residential neighborhood thinking they’re safe well shit’s gonna get broke and people are gonna die.
I believe NATO and the calls this “collateral damage” when they kill a bunch of civilians to strike an enemy target.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Apr 5 2025 15:16 utc | 101
Posted by: Newbie | Apr 5 2025 13:20 utc | 95
I don’t think RUAF will take Zaporozhye any time soon.
They may move the front up to Prymorske (around 20km south of Zaporozhye), where a water barrier exists. Meanwhile they might opt to move north along the Orikhiv route instead, to cut the N15 highway running east out of Zaporozhye. They could also destroy the bridge(s) from Zaporozhye across the river, in effect isolating the city and rendering it moot, hard to supply and little chance of launching any counter-attacks out of it.
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 5 2025 13:33 utc | 96
I just described what I consider the best approach for west of dnieper victories (odessa included)
Krivoi rog, was one of the missing pegs in 2022 IMHO.
Posted by: Newbie | Apr 5 2025 15:19 utc | 102
credit Zman though, he and his entourage can travel literally anywhere in the Ukraine and they are perfectly safe. Must be nice to have that kinda power over the Russians.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 5 2025 13:02 utc | 92
Why would they kill the man who is responsible for gifting them the great U>krainian 2023 summer offensive and Kursk?
Posted by: HB_Norica | Apr 5 2025 15:22 utc | 103
Europe Isn’t Grieving Over the Tariffs – Everything’s Fine
https://anatoliisharii/status/1907693242029593033
“Head of the European Union’s foreign policy department, Kaja Kallas:
‘Everything is going very well (…) we need to provide assistance to Ukraine as quickly as possible. President Zelensky said that they need five billion to have at least two million rounds.’
See? Nothing to worry about.”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 5 2025 15:35 utc | 104
correction to above: ‘See? Nothing to worry about.’
https://anatoliisharii/status/1907693242029593033
Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 5 2025 15:40 utc | 105
‘Poland Plans to Buy or Lease the Odessa Port’ – Deputy Minister
https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1908248919814946937
“He said this way it is possible to provide Poland with access to the Black Sea.”
Poland is hallucinating.
Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 5 2025 15:14 utc | 100
Lemming time for poland?
Think they are reading what they would like… “Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski said U.S. President Donald Trump assured NATO that the alliance’s Article 5 collective defense commitment remains intact and that he will attend a summit of alliance leaders in June in The Hague. ”
Posted by: Newbie | Apr 5 2025 15:42 utc | 106
final try: ‘Europe Isn’t Grieving’
https://x.com/anatoliisharii/status/1907693242029593033
Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 5 2025 15:46 utc | 107
I don’t doubt they used cluster rounds because Biden gave cluster rounds to the Ukrainians who used them first … cluster rounds are very effective.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Apr 5 2025 15:16 utc | 101
The official info did not say cluster, said high explosive. Ukro propaganda says cluster but shows no photos or videos, so there is no cluster type of damage. There is a video of the smoke rising, does not look like cluster ammo, if true. Maybe Zeli/Trump can bomb the same place with cluster to make nice video for twitter?
Posted by: rk | Apr 5 2025 15:50 utc | 108
What’s going on with the incredibly stupid OpSec of NATO?
Concentrating forces in restaurants and hotels is asking for more skiing accidents.
Why don’t they disperse and take over private homes – this is common during wartime.
I guess that they’re so arrogant they think using civilians as human shields is worth more for propaganda value than the lives lost.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 5 2025 16:25 utc | 109
I guess that they’re so arrogant they think using civilians as human shields is worth more for propaganda value than the lives lost.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 5 2025 16:25 utc | 109
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I think you’re on to something there.
Posted by: malenkov | Apr 5 2025 17:49 utc | 110
I guess that they’re so arrogant they think using civilians as human shields is worth more for propaganda value than the lives lost.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 5 2025 16:25 utc | 109
Yes. Definitely.
If I were Ukrainian I would flee like hell the moment I saw uniforms gathering near me.
Posted by: Avtonom | Apr 5 2025 18:03 utc | 111
“if Orban blocks the extension of sanctions against Russia in June, not only will they expire, but the EU will have to hand over 240 billion euros in frozen assets to Putin.”
estonian foreign minister tsahkna.
yeah right, as if the eurothiefs have any honor.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 5 2025 18:13 utc | 112
Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 5 2025 18:13 utc | 112
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Orban will vote for the extension of the sanctions, as he did until now even though he warned that he could refuse…
Posted by: scc | Apr 5 2025 20:05 utc | 113
HB_Norica@103…..lucky for the Russians the Kursk misadventure was just an eight month walk in the park, I doubt they lost one APC, never mind a couple of ankle sprains, so yep, Zman the neo Nazi lover gets to live in a country currently under…….denazification. As I said safest place to be in 404 is to chill and swill with Z.
Cheers M
…..I take no pleasure in dead Ukies when the person sending them to their deaths, trying to and actually killing Russians along the way, gets a huge free pass, it sure does make the Russians look more impotent than a bag of Hazelnuts…..
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 5 2025 22:16 utc | 114
@ Newbie and John Gilbert
Posted my comments re Odessa, Talks etc on wrong thread- Tariffs.
Posted by: Suresh | Apr 5 2025 23:42 utc | 115
Can’t help but notice how the anti-Trump rallies across the globe are replete with Ukrainian flags. Here in Canada, I’ve even seen them appear at pro-Palestine rallies and marches.
Unfortunate but no surprise given the relentless brainwashing and disinformation the average person is subjected to by msm. Seems I’m not the only one who’s noticed.
Why Are HANDS OFF Rallies Supporting NATO?
https://worldbeyondwar.org/why-are-hands-off-rallies-supporting-nato
“…We couldn’t agree more that the corrupt US government should stop destroying, privatizing, firing, and giving away the post office, schools, land, Social Services, healthcare, environmental protections, and all sorts of essential public services.
But we are deeply disturbed to see NATO on the list of items that we are rallying to protest…NATO is a destabilizing, law-breaking force for militarization and war provocation.
Its existence makes wars…”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 6 2025 1:05 utc | 116
@116
Many in U.S. suffer a mass psychosis based on an unreasonable, ill informed angst against Trump. I know many close relatives and friends who are afflicted.
Several are sure because Trump wants peace with Russia US must nuke them. These people protested against Vietnam and nukes 50 odd years ago, but are now due to mass psychosis fully militarized.
It is sad,
Do not listen to US media.
Posted by: paddy | Apr 6 2025 1:45 utc | 117
Trump says that China negotiating TIKTOK could lead to tariff relief.
9D chess master move by genius gigachad Trump.
He started a trade war that wiped out $6 trillion on the US stock market, for a chance to own TikTok.
Essentially, Trump is valuing Tiktok at $6 trillion, making it the most undervalued stock in human history.
Buy the dip.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 6 2025 2:45 utc | 118
Posted by: paddy | Apr 6 2025 1:45 utc | 117
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I used to like Trump, but then he starved a bunch of people in Syria to death with sanctions, a country that America had already wrecked with ISIS.
And this time around, he is elbow deep in two genocides. Palestine and Yemen.
Is that mass psychosis or moral thinking?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 6 2025 2:47 utc | 119
Orban will vote for the extension of the sanctions, as he did until now even though he warned that he could refuse…
Posted by: scc | Apr 5 2025 20:05 utc | 113
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Yup, Orbán sure talks big, then backs down with remarkable consistence. Unless it’s a question of his darling Zio genocidalists; those he always supports.
Posted by: malenkov | Apr 6 2025 3:26 utc | 120
from Xinhuanet
KIEV, April 6 (Xinhua) — Several explosions were heard on Sunday morning in the Ukrainian capital as Russia launched a fresh wave of air attacks on the city, triggering the operation of its air defense, Kiev’s military administration said.
The air attack has caused fires in the urban districts of Darnytskyi and Obolon, and rescuers are heading to the scene, said the Kiev military administration in a post on the social platform Telegram.
“Explosions in the capital. Air defense is in operation. Stay in shelters!” Mayor Vitali Klitschko was quoted as saying earlier on Telegram by media reports, adding: “The missile attack on Kiev is ongoing.”
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 6 2025 4:49 utc | 121
WATCH: Canada’s Fake Left Nazi-Clapper Singh For Police-State, Militarism & More War
https://x.com/EnglerYves/status/1908291778119077943
“Today I tried to ask Jagmeet Singh why the NDP now advocates doubling military spending to $80 billion – rather than putting resources into social housing.
RCMP goons corralled me but left when the NDP bus door closed – so I got it open and continued with my question…”
Stop supporting NATO-Nazi Ukraine and more proxy war! – Canada Out of Ukraine!
http://www.ndp.ca/contact
Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 6 2025 6:25 utc | 122
Zman… and his entourage can travel literally anywhere in the Ukraine and they are perfectly safe. Must be nice to have that kinda power over the Russians.
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 5 2025 13:02 utc | 92
Zelensky is a Jew.
Putin is a Jew.
Maybe Jews are not allowed to kill Jews even in war.
Posted by: JEWS KILL jEWS? | Apr 6 2025 6:56 utc | 123
I find it difficult to believe – that the warmongering, asset stealing, bullyboys club Nato, will have no input on this having caused the conflict in the first place.
Mind you causing a mess then walking away from it is Nato’s remit – think Afghanistan – and you get the picture.
“NATO is not involved in the US-mediated ceasefire negotiations between Russia and Ukraine, Secretary General Mark Rutte has said. He added that considering Kiev’s bid to join the bloc has never been a part of a potential peace deal.
During an interview with Ukraine’s New Voice, published on Saturday, Rutte was asked if NATO had any “red lines” in the negotiations to end the Ukraine”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 6 2025 10:43 utc | 124
Marshal Zhukov – was spot on when he said of Europe.
“We liberated them, and they will never forgive us for this . ”
“Germany is following in the footsteps of its Nazi predecessors by reportedly banning Russian and Belarusian delegates from its 80th World War II Victory anniversary celebrations, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova has said.
On Friday, Berliner Zeitung reported that the German Foreign Ministry has spread classified memos stating that delegates from Moscow and Minsk will not be invited to this year’s commemorations. The confidential document recommended that local institutions expel any Russian or Belarusian representatives from the events, according to the media outlet.
“The very fact that the ideological heirs and direct descendants of Hitler’s executioners will ‘expel’ Russians from the Victory Day celebrations already looks like a blatant insult,” Zakharova commented on the article in a statement on Saturday.”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 6 2025 10:48 utc | 125
It wasn’t that long ago – Le Petit was making noises on France going to war with Russia – maybe the EU bigwigs, think Le Petit will get a good deal for the Neo-Nazi dictatorship in Ukraine.
“French President Emmanuel Macron may take the lead in engaging Russia on behalf of Kiev’s European backers in a bid to end the Ukraine conflict, The Telegraph has reported, citing an Elysee Palace source. France’s leader is reportedly not averse to talks, in contrast to British Prime Minister Keir Starmer.
Macron is said to be willing to be a negotiator “when the time is right,” the source told the paper, who added however that time has not yet come. In March, Macron stated that he was “ready to talk” to Russian President Vladimir Putin but only when Kiev and its European backers decide that “the time is right.” ”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 6 2025 10:58 utc | 126
Big hole in ground confirmed by photo of hotel full of NATZO’s in KivRog – wowser can’t see how anyone came out of that alive.
Looks like the nearby civilian casualties must have been caught in the blast wave or shrapnel?
No wonder Drumpffy Dumpties released a mass slaughter of Yemenis to cover up.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 6 2025 11:47 utc | 127
Further thanks to those who have responded to my inquiry with facts (and especially references) I could use to respond to the comment from another discussion elsewhere — by someone else, mind you — that I transcribed here.
Posted by: John A. La Pietra | Apr 7 2025 6:21 utc | 128