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April 3, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-069
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Has anyone seen anything regarding the extent of sentiment in Russia-bordering Ukrainian regions (such as Kharkov) with respect to potentially seceding and becoming part of Russia? I ask because I would imagine that these regions would have strong affinity for Russian language, culture, etc., which have been suppressed by the so-called leader of Ukraine. Posted by: David Levin | Apr 3 2025 16:02 utc | 1 Very slow day on official AFU casualties, 1.315 would net sub 40k month. So low something must be brewing, or a question of showing restraint. Clean up of Veseloye represent 100 of those 1.300. Posted by: Newbie | Apr 3 2025 16:07 utc | 2 Posted by: David Levin | Apr 3 2025 16:02 utc | 1 Posted by: unimperator | Apr 3 2025 16:09 utc | 3 things are popping in Lebanon and Syria.. Israel seems to have killed a few Turks.. and a new government has been installed in Syria.. How does the Russian base in Syria figure in the Ukraine SMO? Will Turkey join forces with Iran to attack Israel? Houthi were heavily bombed last night and it is said afterwards they shot down a US Reaper drone and attacked the USS Truman.. (social media heresay, any confirming evidence?) pledged to continue to Bomb Israel.. and maritime assets serving or defending Israel.. Posted by: snake | Apr 3 2025 16:39 utc | 4 The date mentioned by Trump, May 8 (Liberation Day May 8: commemoration day of the liberation from National Socialism and the Second World War), will be the decision day on which Trump will use massive propaganda to show what happens next. Posted by: smartfox | Apr 3 2025 17:35 utc | 5 Russia has not yet won. It is not appropriate to celebrate too soon. Posted by: smartfox | Apr 3 2025 17:36 utc | 6 Su-35 fighter production being expanded, driven by need to counter increasingly aggressive Nato and high demand/utility proved in SMO. Posted by: unimperator | Apr 3 2025 18:10 utc | 7 Will Turkey join forces with Iran to attack Israel? Posted by: malenkov | Apr 3 2025 18:36 utc | 8
the eu wont like that one of those countries that shares their “values” is considered a terrorist nation. Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 3 2025 19:22 utc | 9 #9 “the eu wont like that one of those countries that shares their “values” is considered a terrorist nation.” Posted by: Billb | Apr 3 2025 19:40 utc | 10 Boris Johnson ADMITS Ukrainian N@zis Sabotaged Peace! Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 3 2025 19:45 utc | 11 Posted by: Peru | Apr 3 2025 1:02 utc | 286 Posted by: Suresh | Apr 2 2025 22:53 utc | 279 Posted by: arthur brogard | Apr 3 2025 20:08 utc | 13 Houthis ‘Essentially Eliminated’ US Carrier Group From Asia ‘Without Having to Fire a Shot’ – Report Posted by: smartfox | Apr 3 2025 20:44 utc | 14 “Will Turkey join forces with Iran to attack Israel?” Posted by: smartfox | Apr 3 2025 20:48 utc | 15
I maintain that Dmitriev is the Russian Keith Kellogg. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 3 2025 21:16 utc | 16 He has no authority to do anything but to keep Little Marco and Signal Waltz entertained between meetings. Posted by: smartfox | Apr 3 2025 21:28 utc | 17
Purely my opinion, based on observation, but I believe the pro-Russia population in those areas was a minority or had been driven out (Odessa). When Russia occupied those regions early in the Posted by: The Owl | Apr 3 2025 21:50 utc | 18 Posted by: The Owl | Apr 3 2025 21:50 utc | 18 Posted by: smartfox | Apr 3 2025 22:01 utc | 19 I need one of these.
46-second video from Simplicious Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 3 2025 22:26 utc | 20 @ 8 malenkov. Posted by: Suresh | Apr 4 2025 4:06 utc | 21 @David Levin- Kharkov happened to have 8 military colleges and is nowadays a hotbed of Nazis. Kraken Nazi battalion is/was there. So it’s hard to say nowadays Posted by: Elsom | Apr 4 2025 4:10 utc | 22 Newbie @ 2: Posted by: Refinnejenna | Apr 4 2025 5:54 utc | 23 The Trump ‘Threat’ Helps Sell The War Racket in Canada & Europe Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 4 2025 5:58 utc | 24 What about this economical rationale for trump: Stephan Miran economics ? Posted by: arthur brogard | Apr 4 2025 6:11 utc | 25 Posted by: smartfox | Apr 3 2025 21:28 utc | 17 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 4 2025 6:37 utc | 27 I maintain that Dmitriev is the Russian Keith Kellogg. He has no authority to do anything Posted by: rk | Apr 4 2025 8:11 utc | 28 Looks like there is fewer meat to grind on the 0, funnily tho, while the RUAF seems to have agreed to halt striking energy infrastructures only to strike moaaaarr AFU supply chain and command chain. Posted by: Savonarole | Apr 4 2025 8:52 utc | 29 DS map just dropped: Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 4 2025 10:26 utc | 30 Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly Posted by: The Busker | Apr 4 2025 10:42 utc | 31 Hello Canada 🇨🇦 here we come … 😂
Somehow, I think this guy Anonymous has an agenda. Posted by: Avtonom | Apr 4 2025 12:00 utc | 33
Thanks a lot Mr Busker, your updates are always extremely valuable Posted by: Avtonom | Apr 4 2025 12:04 utc | 34 Late AFRF advances are actually quite significant. Posted by: boneless | Apr 4 2025 12:24 utc | 35 Rubio saying it is getting close to gloves off time for Trump Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 4 2025 12:38 utc | 36 EU and UK comedy act still trying to convince selves that their presence is influential maybe at the negotiating “Table of Victory” as z called it. Posted by: Jo | Apr 4 2025 12:39 utc | 37
see lammy, this is the problem. you continiue with your sanctions and demands. Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 4 2025 12:51 utc | 38 The new trope is that “the Russians are dragging their heels,” stalling out the moment when they’ll *have* to submit to a full ceasefire, like recalcitrant children @ the dinner table avoiding the spinach on their plate for as log as possible until they’ll have to open their mouths & eat it. Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 4 2025 13:22 utc | 39 Russians are savvy negotiators who prioritize the unfinished business of this war—-eradicating its root causes—-while playing their role in the diplomatic circuit. Russia’s best security guarantee for durable peace lies in creating solid, immutable facts on the ground—but op-edders like Mark Brolin, writing in the Daily Telegraph, take unmitigated glee in describing, blow by blow, exactly how it is that Russia is so geopolitically weak: “Putin and his fellow rogues like Lukashenko of Belarus will be cutely aware that their grip on power is likely to weaken significantly if Ukraine successfully breaks free and its GDP per capita begins to catch up with the rest of Europe, following the path of other Eastern European countries that have already left Russia’s sphere of influence.” Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 4 2025 13:23 utc | 40 @33 Posted by: Fred777 | Apr 4 2025 13:26 utc | 41 ‘There’ll Be More of This. Mark My Word.s’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 4 2025 13:27 utc | 42 Writing for the Daily Telegraph, Mark Brolin fear-mongers that Russia may soon *lose* its population: “How will the Kremlin continue to justify to its own population that it is better to live poorer, with less peace and far more war casualties than in former Soviet states like Poland, Estonia and Czechia?” Mark Brolin seems not to understand that this is an existential war for Russia, not some sort of bizarre adventurism, which the U.S. has elaborately prepared against Russia since at least 2014, if not before. Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 4 2025 13:29 utc | 43 Justpassinby@38….and why would he not continue the sanctions, nothing really that Russia can do about it, unless Russia caves in. Can Russia affect the Brits, yep, that laughter down the hall, that’s Whitehall….. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 4 2025 13:30 utc | 44 Everyone knows before Bears consume their prey, they stop and talk to them? Posted by: snake | Apr 4 2025 13:31 utc | 45 It’s a bizarre trope coming from the American side, the lead belligerent in the war, trying to act as mediator, armed with enough carrots & sticks to *discipline* the Russians into laying down their arms, when they themselves elaborately weaponized Ukraine as an implement of war against Russia. Posted by: Mike R | Apr 4 2025 13:53 utc | 46
Agree 100%. The Western leaders, who have painted “Poot’n” as both weak and dangerous, both stupid and too smart, are now trying to discipline their adversary. But the most unbelievable thing is their populations seem to believe everything they hear from these leaders. I wish there would be some visible opposition … Posted by: Avtonom | Apr 4 2025 14:22 utc | 47 Posted by: Avtonom | Apr 4 2025 14:22 utc | 47 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 4 2025 14:33 utc | 48 8 – Turkey is much more likely to attack Iran than Israel. We are talking about a NATO member after all. Erdoğan fears the Zionists and will not do anything to make them attack him. Posted by: Waldorf | Apr 4 2025 14:45 utc | 49 Ukraine and World Affairs: Weekly Update, April 4th 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-and-world-affairs-weekly Posted by: The Busker | Apr 4 2025 14:52 utc | 50 Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 4 2025 13:30 utc | 44 Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 4 2025 15:17 utc | 51 Trump apparently being advised to cut off all communications with Putin until he agrees to a ceasefire. Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 4 2025 15:46 utc | 52 Berlin Promises Kiev Billions More and Deploys Combat Troops in Lithuania Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 4 2025 15:54 utc | 53 Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 4 2025 15:46 utc | 52 Posted by: Mario | Apr 4 2025 16:00 utc | 54 Come July or August, military events on the battlefield will have decimated the AFU to such an extent that the ceasefire matter—have a ceasefire, or not—will have taken care of itself, and the *diplomacy* of DJT’s team will be largely relegated to signing the capitulation terms which Russia sets before them. Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 4 2025 16:00 utc | 55 If you do an internet search with the words Ukraine oblasts voting map, at least in google it will turn up the voting map. Going by the voting the most pro Russian oblasts are the eight on the south-east end of the country. Along with Crimea, four of them have already been annexed by Russia and I think there is really no chance they will surrender them. If I were Russian, I would want Russia to annex all eight. Another solution that would leave a more defendable border would be to occupy everything to the east of the Dnieper River. Posted by: Jmaas | Apr 4 2025 16:01 utc | 56 Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 4 2025 15:54 utc | 53 Posted by: Richard Head | Apr 4 2025 16:01 utc | 57 fyi, Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 4 2025 16:14 utc | 58 NATO’s logic is this: if Russia defeats the West in Ukraine, then China will be emboldened to take Taiwan. So the message, dear DJT, is that the hegemonic/paymaster of the West cannot undercut Ukraine in any way, shape, form or fashion. Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 4 2025 16:15 utc | 59
Thanks to all who shared their thoughts about this. Posted by: David Levin | Apr 4 2025 16:18 utc | 60 Rutte is playing for his king as usual… The Dutch have so much investments in the US that they don’t want to make the boss angry. Posted by: Tom | Apr 4 2025 16:28 utc | 61 A thoughtful commentary from Joe Lauria over at Consortium News: Posted by: Avtonom | Apr 4 2025 16:39 utc | 62 Meanwhile in Brussels at NATO obvious cracks and contradictions begin to appear… Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 4 2025 16:57 utc | 63 … didn’t shed a tear when the Zios wiped out the Mavi Marmara michaelj72 | Apr 4 2025 16:14 utc | 58 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Apr 4 2025 17:25 utc | 65 John Gilberts | Apr 4 2025 16:57 utc | 63 64 – It is indeed incorrect to say Erdoğan “didn’t shed a tear” – diplomatic relations between Turkey and Israel were disrupted though trade relations went on. Given that US and European politicians can end their careers if they criticise Israel, Erdoğan’s criticisms may seem a lot, but they aren’t. In concrete terms, Turkey and Israel cooperate and have long done so. Posted by: Waldorf | Apr 4 2025 17:41 utc | 67 It just occurred to me that even if Ukraine gives America everything, including the kitchen sink, and Trump starts moving the military in to “protect” the new American assets. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 4 2025 18:46 utc | 68 “moving the military in to “protect” the new American assets.” I’ve mentioned this previously: a US military presence by stealth. Posted by: horseguards | Apr 4 2025 19:50 utc | 69 🔘 Negotiations have begun in Kiev with representatives from France and the United Kingdom regarding the deployment of a military contingent. Posted by: Jo | Apr 4 2025 20:15 utc | 70 Internal turmoil in Ukraine gradually accelerating:
https://ukranews.com/en/news/1074316-dnipro-city-council-member-yurii-fedko-whose-car-exploded-in-dnipropetrovsk-region Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 4 2025 20:27 utc | 71
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 4 2025 21:24 utc | 72
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 4 2025 21:38 utc | 73 About 15-20 minutes ago, someone in another discussion elsewhere offered two links supporting an accusation that Russia has attacked Ukrainian civilians. I offer this (without supporting it) while asking for comments on the content, the sites quoted, and anything else. Posted by: John A. La Pietra | Apr 4 2025 22:07 utc | 74
Posted by: John A. La Pietra | Apr 4 2025 22:07 utc | 74Posted by: John A. La Pietra | Apr 4 2025 22:07 utc | 74 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 4 2025 22:25 utc | 75 64 – It is indeed incorrect to say Erdoğan “didn’t shed a tear” – diplomatic relations between Turkey and Israel were disrupted though trade relations went on. Given that US and European politicians can end their careers if they criticise Israel, Erdoğan’s criticisms may seem a lot, but they aren’t. In concrete terms, Turkey and Israel cooperate and have long done so. Posted by: malenkov | Apr 4 2025 22:38 utc | 76
I’m getting a feeling that this and some other of the Eurotard saber rattling amounts to as much as a Potemkin’s Unternehmen Zitadelle, intended to hand them “a card” for the negotiations. Probably someone came up with it after asking ChatGPT what tactics have worked in the past against Russia. Posted by: persiflo | Apr 4 2025 23:03 utc | 77 Interesting article from the ‘KyivIndependent’ website titled “Inside Ukraine’s desperate race to train more soldiers” which follows a journalist who has spent the last 6 months touring the military training camps. Posted by: FakeBelieve | Apr 4 2025 23:13 utc | 78 From Reuters Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 5 2025 0:02 utc | 79 Thanks to Jeremy Rhymings-Lang @75 (22:25 UTC) for initial general comments in response to my post @74 (22:07 UTC). Can anyone else find reports of an attack in the vicinity of the Kyrvyi Rih (or transliterated equivalent) location mentioned in the posting I saw elsewhere? Comments on how those reports match, differ from, or contradict what the report I saw elsewhere said are most welcome. Posted by: John A. La Pietra | Apr 5 2025 0:20 utc | 80 A quick check of easily-found reports: Posted by: John A. La Pietra | Apr 5 2025 0:38 utc | 81 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 3 2025 21:16 utc | 16 Posted by: arthur abrogard | Apr 5 2025 1:05 utc | 82 can’t edit. ‘ukrainehonesty.com’ that should be. 🙁 Posted by: arthur brogard | Apr 5 2025 1:06 utc | 83 @ John A. La Pietra Posted by: boneless | Apr 5 2025 1:07 utc | 84
The accusation that Russia has used a cluster munition is false, as can be seen by the single rising column of dust in the video of the aftermath of the strike. If cluster munitions were used, you would see lots of small explosions. Posted by: S | Apr 5 2025 4:49 utc | 85 Tass on the targeted Krivoy Rog strike… Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 5 2025 6:05 utc | 86 This is Just One House of Ukraine’s President Zelensky (& vid) Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 5 2025 6:40 utc | 87 Corrected from above: Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 5 2025 6:47 utc | 88
Posted by: Avtonom | Apr 5 2025 8:27 utc | 89 Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 5 2025 6:47 utc | 88 Posted by: dan of steele | Apr 5 2025 9:00 utc | 90 A blow for the Ukrainian Neo-Nazi’s and their Western weapons suppliers. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 5 2025 12:23 utc | 91 Republicofscotland@91….they’d have been completely safe if they had invited Tiny Dancer to pop by for a show……credit Zman though, he and his entourage can travel literally anywhere in the Ukraine and they are perfectly safe. Must be nice to have that kinda power over the Russians. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 5 2025 13:02 utc | 92 sean the leprechaun | Apr 5 2025 13:02 utc | 92 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Apr 5 2025 13:09 utc | 93 Looks like RUAF is seriously moving along the Dniepr shore – they have taken full FPV drone control of the village of Kamyanske and the road north of it. Posted by: unimperator | Apr 5 2025 13:17 utc | 94 Looks like RUAF is seriously moving along the Dniepr shore – they have taken full FPV drone control of the village of Kamyanske and the road north of it. Posted by: Newbie | Apr 5 2025 13:20 utc | 95 Posted by: Newbie | Apr 5 2025 13:20 utc | 95 Posted by: unimperator | Apr 5 2025 13:33 utc | 96 YetAnotherAnon@93….regardless of what he does or does not run, he is by far the safest person to be around in 404, as in untouchable. Putin been to the front under threat of Iskandar? Nope, HIMARS will cause that. Britkrainia is playing Trump and Putin like badly tuned banjos…..soon will have them squealing like pigs at each other. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 5 2025 13:45 utc | 97 Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 5 2025 13:45 utc | 97 Posted by: unimperator | Apr 5 2025 13:49 utc | 98 Scott Ritter: The Enemy Within Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 5 2025 14:56 utc | 99 ‘Poland Plans to Buy or Lease the Odessa Port’ – Deputy Minister Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 5 2025 15:14 utc | 100 |
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