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April 10, 2025
Trump’s Market Whiplash Continues

Yesterday's piece had warned about the curious drop in Treasurys and rise of interest rates. It was a dire sign that the global economy and markets far beyond Wall Street were going bad.

The Trump administration recognized the danger and, just fifteen minutes after I had published my post, pulled back (archived):

The economic turmoil, particularly a rapid rise in government bond yields, caused Mr. Trump to blink on Wednesday afternoon and pause his “reciprocal” tariffs for most countries for the next 90 days, according to four people with direct knowledge of the president’s decision.

Asked to explain the decision, Mr. Trump told reporters: “Well, I thought that people were jumping a little bit out of line. They were getting yippy, you know, they were getting a little bit yippy, a little bit afraid.”

Behind the scenes, senior members of Mr. Trump’s team had feared a financial panic that could spiral out of control and potentially devastate the economy. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and others on the president’s team, including Vice President JD Vance, had been pushing for a more structured approach to the trade conflict that would focus on isolating China as the worst actor while still sending a broader message that Mr. Trump was serious.

This does not mean that the trouble has ended.

Who is going to invest, into what, while any day, at any moment, the most basic economic conditions may change in completely unpredictable directions:

Asked on Wednesday how he would decide on any further exemptions, Mr. Trump said: “Instinctively, more than anything else. I mean, you almost can’t take a pencil to paper. It’s really more of an instinct, I think, than anything else.”

By admitting that Trump acknowledges that he is the real problem.

How can I decide to invest in a new car when by delivery date the tariffs and interests involved might have changed in unforeseeable directions? On what basis can I trust Trump's instincts? I can't and won't. The same will hold for much bigger investment decisions.

For once the Washington Post editorial is getting it right (archived):

The bond markets forced Trump’s hand. By moving their money out of dollars and selling U.S. Treasury bonds, investors told Trump what his closest advisers would not about the perils of starting trade wars with all other countries at once. Trillions in value were wiped out in equity markets, and the financial system blinked red with indicators of contagion.

Finally, bond yields began to forecast calamity — especially the alarming sell-off of 10-year Treasurys. In times of panic, these bonds usually attract investors. Their failure to do so this time reflected declining confidence that the U.S. government would repay its debts.

After Trump finally announced the tariff pause, the S&P 500 closed up 9.5 percent and the tech-heavy Nasdaq gained 12 percent. The news is indeed worth rejoicing. But keep in mind that the 90-day pause will last only until July 8, and in the meantime the trade war with China might continue to escalate. In other words, investors, business and consumers will still be living with uncertainty. For the long term, Trump and his team are well advised to come up with a less volatile economic strategy.

Until Trump settles on a predictable course the global carnage will continue.

Comments

“Information wants to be free”.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 12 2025 4:10 utc | 298
I agree with you, and every day there are more rent seekers who want you to pay for garbage too, especially m.s.media propaganda. I also go to archive.org and anna’s archive now for Ebooks. Don’t see why Mr Besos should be making a buck of everything ever written, especially when the author is long dead.

Posted by: George | Apr 12 2025 5:58 utc | 301

George thanks for your valuble shareing of Aus political picture.
In return…
In the Uk, parlament has been recalled for an emergency vote today (sat)
Only the 8th time this centery. The last time was the Falklands war.
The vote concerns, british steel which is owened by China.
China wants to close it down in a day or two.
The vote is on..takeing over the only working raw steel plants left..
Putting them directly under control of the brit gov.
For economic and defence reasons.
(Read politcal)
This vote will go through unoposed
You can bet the house on it.
Respect.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 12 2025 7:27 utc | 302

Along with the 350,000,000 donated to Ukraine yesterday, we can conclude Britain is being put on a war footing, a war econamy.
I’m seeing strong drives at army recrutment in all media.
The elderly, desabled and child care being cut back to attempt to pay for it. Along with cutting back public servises and infrstuture.
They dont do peace do they.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 12 2025 7:42 utc | 303

Peru @ 304
Liked 👍

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 12 2025 7:46 utc | 304

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 12 2025 7:27 utc | 305
Thank Love Donbas, he got it through the pay wall.
It is interesting how Britain and Australia are now doing some thinking around their respective defence relationships with the US and each other. There is quite a lot of public debate going on here about changing the alliance with the US. This I would say is a positive and if you look at things objectively in terms of events – as in ‘this leads to that’ – Trump is incidentally doing us all a favour which I know you perceive as well. I don’t get upset about Trump, I just watch how things change and where they lead to no matter what the intent of the players are. Unfortunately because we have elections coming up in Australia on the 3rd of May, neither political party here can be drawn into the discussion about the defence relationship since they fear being wedged by the other side. At this point I suspect Labor will win the election again, and if so they may act to change things, but Australia’s allegiance to the US and its falling into the trap of being the US’s Pacific base and (almost 51st state) has been going on for a very long time. There is great book on the history of all this by Brian Toohey who is a veteran Australian journalist of integrity who goes back to the Vietnam era. It’s called: “Secret, the Making of Australia’s Security State.” All Australians should read this but few have unfortunately.
Do you think there is any hope for Starmer ? I have trouble reading the UK situation from here. Is he waking up or is he a ‘Page 8’ prime minister? (After the film).
Good to chat with you BTW, it is good when discussion takes place with people who show respect towards those who comment here which is something I always prefer, even if people don’t necessarily agree with each other on everything.

Posted by: George | Apr 12 2025 8:12 utc | 305

Posted by: George | Apr 12 2025 8:12 utc | 308
Well done George

Posted by: watcher | Apr 12 2025 8:40 utc | 306

Thank you dombass for helping to bypass the pay wall. And for all your contributions.
__________________
George i totaly agree with all your points of view.
Alas ther is no hope for starmer he as the leader of the govenment dose not have the UK’s interests at hart.
He is and always has been a 100% controled asset of Israel going right back to before Corbyn.
Like in your country it begs the question.. what democrocy do we have if their are no alternative choices on the policy of the canditates. Answer.. zero.
I’m a peace loveing man who beleafs you have to fight to protect peace and what is right.
Starmer and trump are victems of their own web of lies. But they are both now confronted with reality.
They will go to hell in a hand cart. We hope they dont take us with them.
The only chance i see is that ‘the streets’ will wake up. Hence my earlyer suggestion of strikes.
The right wing violents loveing farage followers are fully primed, triggered for a battle against the weak and vonrable. The silent peace loveing comunity now need to stand up and speak up.
Cheers

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 12 2025 8:51 utc | 307

Trump in my opinion is like a door to door salesman or con merchant, he will tell you what you wont to here. But he wont deliver.
Pepole fall for it time after time.
Becouse they think hes on their side.
Trumps view on Gaza and Israel is all we neef to know about trump.
Other than that…
He needs to walk the walk.
Whats good for america needs to be redefined.
In my view.
Thats true loyalty, true MAGA.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 12 2025 9:05 utc | 308

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Apr 11 2025 21:36 utc | 268
Thank you for the Cynthia Chung link. She is always excellent.
The USA could try to emulate China for a billion years until the sun expands and sterilises the world, but it will never succeed. The USA can no more become China than pigs can fly to Jupiter. The U.S. citizen would have to evolve into a different species to escape from its predatory capitalist mindset and do something productive. Become something even close to Chinese.
Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Apr 11 2025 22:35 utc | 280
I welcome your contributions and hope you will remain a steady contributor at MoA.
I think you are abandoning rational analysis in the cited part of your 280 post.
The US does not need to “become China”, just undergo the necessary comprehensive changes in order to unblock its creative potential for useful and peaceful purposes serving the wellbeing of ALL Americans.
There is no question that such changes are revolutionary and seem impossible in the current system and circumstances. It is true that it is not simple to change a nation’s “predatory capitalist mindset”, but it IS possible.
You’d be surprised, in fact everyone would be, at how quickly such a change can start just with a different publicly propagated philosophy of life and society, and a political force of vision and principle courageously fighting for the good society.
People don’t realise the effect that a humanistic socio-economic project has on the majority which desires it, hopes for it and in today’s catastrophic circumstances is desperate for it.
China is actually a good example – people all of over the globe are looking to China as a source of hope for a better world because of its honest, respectful and constructive positions and vision of a harmonious world with a future of shared prosperity. It is a very powerful vision coming from a big power not seeking hegemony. There is a huge thirst for that in humanity.
The opposing interests are entrenched, strong, and murderous, yes, but they can be swept off the scene more easily and quickly than most dare to think and believe.
It’s up to Americans to take responsibility and control of their out-of-control state. We are all entitled to demand that of them, because the criminal actions of their state are impacting the life of all of us, not only all of them.
There is absolutely no reason to go on tolerating Americans’ disregard of the consequences of their state’s destructive and violent behaviour, domestic and international. American citizens must be called out and called to account for the actions of their state.

Posted by: JB | Apr 12 2025 9:16 utc | 309

fyi,
https://x.com/jasonhickel/status/1910952924018315517
Jason Hickel @jasonhickel
What’s wild about the US tariffs is that they are not coupled with any industrial policy or public investment strategy that could plausibly deliver US re-industrialization. The result is that the tariffs will likely accelerate US industrial decline and general economic degradation.
It is truly fascinating to watch. The US has so thoroughly purged socialist ideas from its economics departments, and has ensured such absolute hegemony of neoliberal principles, that it is incapable of conceptualizing and implementing even *basic* industrial policy that could deliver on the government’s own stated goals.
Total self-sabotage. The US ruling class has no idea what to do, they are completely adrift. And this is dangerous because they are likely to resort to violence and geopolitical bullying in a desperate dying bid to hold onto power.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 12 2025 9:29 utc | 310

I’m still wondering…
Are these tariffs a short term barganing ploy or are they a long term permenante fixture ?
Both industry and agriculure need to know.
To plan ahead.
Are we on this low level of govenment ineptitude ?
Who gains, follow the money. By chaos we do war. Israel and the jews.
But not all jews 😐
Kudos michaelj72

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 12 2025 9:44 utc | 311

biden and trump….
“Both cheeks of the same arse”
George Galloway.
Have a good day !

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 12 2025 9:58 utc | 312

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 12 2025 8:51 utc | 310
Thanks for your update on Starmer. It’s pretty much what I have been thinking, he seems to have been a stooge from the outset. His calling Zelensky pretty much the day after he was elected made it all too obvious as to who he really represented, but I had little hope in him before anyway. Some British people I know here in Australia said he’d be good because “he likes English football” which I thought was how most people discern who to vote for these days – same here. Given there is little difference in most countries where two parties dominate – between Tweedledum or Tweedledee – there is little chance much is going to change other than accidental things like we see happening with Trump. I read an article the other day where the writer said that one greatest tricks in modern democracy has been how politicians and MS media have managed to fabricate the illusion that there is a huge difference between two parties to the point that the voters actually hate the other side as if it is a complete opposite.

Posted by: George | Apr 12 2025 10:06 utc | 313

Posted by: watcher | Apr 12 2025 8:40 utc | 309
Thank you watcher.

Posted by: George | Apr 12 2025 10:07 utc | 314

Galloway is great. Calls it how it is.

Posted by: George | Apr 12 2025 10:09 utc | 315

“Asked on Wednesday how he would decide on any further exemptions, Mr. Trump said: “Instinctively, more than anything else. I mean, you almost can’t take a pencil to paper. It’s really more of an instinct, I think, than anything else.”
Instinctively, says the guy who bankrupted 3 casinos in Atlantic City. Who opens THREE casinos in a relatively small gambling town. It’s like owning 3 Starbucks on 3 corners of an intersection.

Posted by: Migmaw | Apr 12 2025 10:54 utc | 316

Trump’s China Tariff Shocks US Importers…
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/trumps-tariffs/article/trunps-china-tariff-shocks-us-importers-one-ceo-calls-it-end-of-days/
“One CEO calls it ‘end of days.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 12 2025 12:20 utc | 317

Trump’s China Tariff Shocks US Importers…(corrected)
https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/trumps-tariffs/article/trumps-china-tariff-shocks-us-importers-one-ceo-calls-it-end-of-days/

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 12 2025 12:25 utc | 318

Lighthizer Gives Private Trade-War Advice to Canada’s Conservatives
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/11/lighthizer-us-canada-trade-00286909
“The pro-tariff former USTR told Canadians to spend more on defense and partner with the US against China.”
‘Advice’ from an enemy. Do the opposite.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 12 2025 13:29 utc | 319

Posted by: Peru | Apr 12 2025 3:30 utc | 296
>>>
Very accurate depiction of Captain DJT and his colossal Titanic’s failures.

Posted by: pepe | Apr 12 2025 13:31 utc | 320

If trump had spoke out against israel would he have become president ?
There it is, right there.
And right here, chaos ! And who gains by it.
Is it a coincedence we see the same chaos in america, UK, AUSTRALIA, europe.
Yes create jobs in the US great.
Lose jobs in the container ports, off shore men.
Creat jobs growing food but on what wage.
And what cost of food.
George is right trump seems to do the right things by mistake.
Karma.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 12 2025 13:32 utc | 321

You should really stick to topics you understand.

Posted by: dirtforker | Apr 12 2025 13:35 utc | 322

Dirtforker @ 325
By all meens enlighten us.
I would expext if you do it will be from an american only perspective.
Ther are two americas the rich and the poor.
‘Which side are you on’

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 12 2025 13:47 utc | 323

The more people have the less people value what they’v got.
That right there is whats wrong with america.
Wasteing money on senceless wars all the time and stupid space travel.
Its never enough is it.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 12 2025 13:58 utc | 324

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 12 2025 13:58 utc | 327
###########
I am of the opinion that materialists are trying to fill a hole.
Super materialists?
A very, very big hole.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 12 2025 14:04 utc | 325

LoveDonbass @ 328
Liked 👍
I’m done for now, i’l let some one else have a say.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 12 2025 14:12 utc | 326

Trump Tariffs Continue To Fuel Economic Turmoil
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/04/12/wqnk-a12.html
“…Singapore FM Vivian Belakrishknan said:
‘This is the end of an era. The architect, the master-planner, the developer of the rules-based system of economic integration has decided that it now needs to engage in a full-scale demolition of the same system that it created.’

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 12 2025 14:16 utc | 327

Trump Tariffs Continue To Fuel Economic Turmoil
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/04/12/wqnk-a12.html
“…Singapore FM Vivian Belakrishknan said:
‘This is the end of an era. The architect, the master-planner, the developer of the rules-based system of economic integration has decided that it now needs to engage in a full-scale demolition of the same system that it created.’

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 12 2025 14:17 utc | 328

Apparently now the tariffs are began to be watered down. Computers and phones have been exempted from US import tariffs, a handout to Apple and other major companies. Only/mostly small/medium businesses will suffer from tariffs, big corporations will receive better treatment.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 12 2025 14:21 utc | 329

@ Posted by: Noam A. Larkey | 5
Messianic ideation. I am observing people with this. The “White Hats” are here and secretly have everything worked out and preplaced to activate at a moments notice to deliver the new and just world we all want to live in.
BTW – don’t think about this too much or worry – or educate yourself. You can keep your head down and walk off the field of participation and hibernate until the White Hats reset the board. The external autority figures you rely on have it all sorted on your behalf.

Posted by: NomNom | Apr 12 2025 15:10 utc | 330

Posted by: Spectator | Apr 11 2025 9:15 utc | 223
Posted by: Juan Moment | Apr 11 2025 10:47 utc | 223
“You pulled “focused primarily on gold prices, US Treasury bill interest rates, stock market prices,” out of your rectum. Nobody stated that, not even in a round about way. What I did say is that Bernhard does from time to time put the spotlight on economic issues, especially when developments on that front are making headlines, like during the GFC or right now. B and most of his readership have always recognized that economic measures and geopolitical machinations are intrinsically linked, and therefore discussed fiscal happenings and business sentiment more broadly since this blog’s early days.
“Rather than spouting indignant nonsense because it was pointed out your comment showed you had no idea of the history of MoA, take some time and read the archive. There are 20 odd years of it. You are sure to learn something. I did.”
That is a fair and accurate criticism of that post of mine. I’ve only been reading MoA for 3-4 years. I have learned something from MoA in those years.

Posted by: Spectator | Apr 13 2025 0:26 utc | 331

Posted by: JB | Apr 12 2025 9:16 utc | 312
Thank-you for your helpful response and comments.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Apr 13 2025 21:32 utc | 332