Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
April 29, 2025
The Cult That Murders Gaza

I have not written much about the war on Gaza. It is so brutal and and the Zionist behavior is so alien to me that I lack words to describe it.

I have difficulties to understand how anyone, any group of people, could set themselves so far outside of the common human realm, as I perceive it, and commit itself to starve and genocide millions of people.

Yasha Levine helped me to get a grip on it:

.. I came across this…a brief statement by a celebrity Chabad rabbi about his thoughts on the proper way to wage a war in the Jewish style. I wanted to share it with you.

I don’t believe in western morality, i.e. don’t kill civilians or children, don’t destroy holy sites, don’t fight during holiday seasons, don’t bomb cemeteries, don’t shoot until they shoot first because it is immoral.

The only way to fight a moral war is the Jewish way: Destroy their holy sites. Kill men, women and children (and cattle).

The first Israeli prime minister who declares that he will follow the Old Testament will finally bring peace to the Middle East.

Rabbi Manis Friedman
Bais Chana Institute of Jewish Studies
St. Paul, MN

It is a cult.

As Levine explains:

Rabbi Manis Friedman is well known in the Jewish world. ..

[H]is views on the right way to wage a war on Palestinians were published in 2009 in Moment, a mainstream Jewish magazine that was cofounded by Elie Wiesel.

Now fifteen years later Friedman’s views are basically mainstream in Israel and in Jewish communities around the world. What he described as the only proper, godly way to wage war against the enemies of Israel is in fact what Israel is currently doing in Gaza and beyond…with total support from the United States and the Europeans.

What can one say?

Chabad is a religious sect with 18th century roots in some Belorussian village. Levine has written a number of pieces about it.

This bears the question: How can one 'deprogram' a large people who have fallen for a cult like this?

Comments

Thanks for writing this…

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Apr 29 2025 16:39 utc | 1

They delight in killing children. The entire society celebrates that. I would like an example of a people who did that. Germans tried to systematically exterminate a people but they didn’t celebrate their deed like this. Israelis are an objectively evil people and Israel is an evil country

Posted by: A.z | Apr 29 2025 16:44 utc | 2

How can one deal with psychotic people like this? Give all the necessary resources to the opposite side and assist them every time they need help. It’s the only way. Unfortunately.

Posted by: octavian61 | Apr 29 2025 16:51 utc | 3

the is a lot that can be said, but I better not!

Posted by: g wiltek | Apr 29 2025 16:55 utc | 4

– There is another dimension to this madness. Miko Peled (son of the israeli general Peled) has pointed out that the zionist indoctrination sarts already with very small children in the israeli school system.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU0Uc-PKe9Y (didn’t watch the full video which is some 45 minutes in duration).
There is jewish rabbi called Dov Lior who is the most important intellectual ideologist for the zionist movement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dov_Lior
Alastair Crooke mentioned Dov Lior a few times in several videos.
One should also take into account that one shoudl also look at the financial / economic / social circumstances in (in this case) Israel (e.g. shortage of water).

Posted by: WMG | Apr 29 2025 16:55 utc | 5

@A.z, #2:

Germans tried to systematically exterminate a people

Nope, the Germans did NOT try to exterminate the Jews. They wanted to rid Germany of them, and later on rid Europe of them, but there was no extermination, and NO homicidal gas chambers. The Jews and others died of disease in labor camps. Sure, there we some hangings and shootings, but no mass extermination.

Posted by: Ernesto Che | Apr 29 2025 16:58 utc | 6

Maybe that explains Zionists; but what about US, Germany and others who are supporting financially and militarily?

Posted by: OscarRomero | Apr 29 2025 16:59 utc | 7

Israel is the biggest welfare state in world history.
Without foreign ‘free money for race war’ it would collapse or find coexistence.
Start by cutting off the foreign money, the religious crazies will starve or work.

Posted by: Polli | Apr 29 2025 17:03 utc | 8

thanks b.. this is horrific…
to your question – either the state of israel collapses, or i don’t know.. i also don’t know the answer to your question at the end..

Posted by: james | Apr 29 2025 17:09 utc | 9

Chabad (aka lubavitchs)are one of the worst jewish sect. Their vision of theology is one of the worst. Basically, the goyims exist to serve them by their owns means. At least a slaver feed his slaves …

Posted by: Savonarole | Apr 29 2025 17:09 utc | 10

A more appropriate name for “israel” would be Talmudic Naziland. The Talmudic Nazis there make the former German Nazis look like choir boys in comparison, and “Never Again” only applies to Jews, not to the “goyim”, who are seen as inferior, on earth to serve the Jews.
The “goyim” (= cattle, beasts) may be killed. In fact, eventually all “goyim” should be killed – “Even the best of the goyim should all be killed.” (Soferim 15)
“sraelis” annually take part in a national pilgrimage to the grave of Simon ben Yohai, to honor this rabbi who advocated the extermination of non-Jews. (Jewish Press, June 9, 1989, p. 56B)
There is a lot more that the Talmud prescribed and is used as justification by Talmudic Naziland and its American and EU supporters to implement the genocide.
In fact, genocide has become very cool again in the sanctimonious West, and those who voice their opposition get in serious trouble.

Posted by: Ernesto Che | Apr 29 2025 17:10 utc | 11

0.002% of the world’s population is Jewish. Controlling the media and banking in the west for a couple of centuries sure does help you if you’re in the minority of the minority. So, when you’ve shit loads of money and are always the good guy in the eyes of the media, you can do basically anything, like rape, genocide, incest…..

Posted by: Ogre | Apr 29 2025 17:11 utc | 12

“Israel is “falling apart,”says Miko Peled, son of an Israeli general” (= Miko Peled)
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/A0FmS8LoSq0
Miko Peled’s YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@MikoPeledOfficial

Posted by: WMG | Apr 29 2025 17:11 utc | 13

I too feel your frustration B, it is so disheartening to talk to friends and colleagues and find pretty much zero opposition to the slaughter going on in the Middle East. The hypocrisy is truly bizarre when those same people talk about how evil the Russians are, how cruel Assad was bombing hospitals and dropping barrel bombs and yet nary a word when shown live video of bunker buster bombs being dropped on civilians trapped in their homeland without food, water, or medical supplies. No other country on earth can do this and even boast about it. Jeffrey Sachs has done some good work getting the facts and background information out into the mainstream media but his is a lone voice.
It is so sad and the worst part is that they (the Israelites) will most likely be completely successful in their endeavor.

Posted by: dan of steele | Apr 29 2025 17:12 utc | 14

570 days…
United Nations rights chief Volker Turk has called on the world to halt Gaza’s descent into a “new, unseen level” of “humanitarian catastrophe”, amid Israel’s total blockade on aid and relentless attacks on the territory.
The International Court of Justice (ICJ) has begun its second day of hearings into Israel’s humanitarian obligations to Palestinians, more than 50 days into Israel’s total blockage on aid entering the Gaza Strip.
South Africa’s representative Zane Dangor has told the ICJ that “under the world’s watchful eye, Palestinians are being subjected to atrocity, crimes, persecution, apartheid and genocide” in Gaza.
Amnesty International, a global rights group, has accused Israel of committing a “livestreamed genocide” against Palestinians in Gaza by forcibly displacing most of the population and deliberately creating a humanitarian catastrophe.
Israel’s war on Gaza has killed at least 52,365 Palestinians and wounded 117,905 others, according to the enclave’s Health Ministry. The Gaza Government Media Office updated the death toll to more than 61,700, saying thousands of people missing under the rubble are presumed dead.

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 29 2025 17:16 utc | 15

“The first Israeli prime minister who declares that he will follow the Old Testament will finally bring peace to the Middle East.”
The ‘Religious Leadership’ Uses ‘Old’ Testament Scriptures To Override The ‘New’ Testament Scriptures.
Religious Leadership In Bed With Government – 501C3 – Just Wars Theory

43 You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your Neighbor’ and ‘Hate your Enemy.’ But I Say To You – Love your Enemies – Bless those cursing you – Do Good to those hating you – and Pray for those accusing you falsely, and persecuting you – 45 THAT You May Be ‘Sons’ of Your Father in Heaven. Matthew 5:43-45

NOBODY Obeys Those Words In Red From The Prince of Peace – The WORD Wrapped In Flesh.

The Word Became Flesh and made his dwelling among us. John 1:14

Posted by: JohnF | Apr 29 2025 17:20 utc | 16

How do you cope with this, b???
Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla was awarded the 2022 Genesis Prize, also known as the “Jewish Nobel,” in recognition of his outstanding professional achievements, contributions to humanity, and commitment to Jewish values. The award, which was presented by Israeli President Isaac Herzog, specifically highlighted Bourla’s leadership in developing and delivering the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine.

Posted by: maja | Apr 29 2025 17:22 utc | 17

” How can one ‘deprogram’ a large people who have fallen for a cult like this?”
Simple. Erase them.

Posted by: Alpi | Apr 29 2025 17:28 utc | 18

In the 1940s we faced large amounts of ideologically programmed people that thought they were the chosen ones and everybody else was inferior to them and weren’t entitled to their homelands, safety, culture or lives. They were easier to be deprogrammed after so many were killed that they finally said enough, surrendered and allowed their societies to be reclaimed by rational persons.

Posted by: Matt | Apr 29 2025 17:29 utc | 19

The state of Israel is living on borrowed time.
Too small, surrounded by too many enemies, too vulnerable to widely available advanced weaponry, and THEN they go and one-up the Nazi’s with Gaza. Hypocrisy knows no bounds. Whatever moral ground they held prior has been lost forever. Shame on so much of the world (especially the US of which I’m a citizen) for enabling it.
If Bebe has his way and starts a war with Iran, well… Israel may meet it’s demise much sooner. I don’t know if it’s stupidity or arrogance driving the warhawks, but Israel (and the US) would do well not to open that Pandora’s Box.
p.s.: Did I mention they’re one of the most heavily vaxxed countries in the world, too? That alone will raise hell with their demographics.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 29 2025 17:31 utc | 20

All The Presidents Following Same Plan – Including Trump.!
In 1996, Benjamin Netanyahu wrote a book called ‘Fighting
Terrorism’ where he listed 7 countries that needed ‘Regime
Change’ to ‘Secure Israel’. Those countries were Iraq,
Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Iran.
In 2001, This is a memo that describes how we’re going to
take out seven countries in five years, starting with Iraq,
then Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and – Finishing
off, Iran.” Gen W. Clark
Iran Only Country Left – Zionist Israel Controls Middle
East Oil & Pipeline Networks.
Israel Is An Aircraft Carrier/Beach Head in the Middle
East For NATO – Robert F. Kennedy Jr
US/UK/Israel/NATO Are Bankrupt.
37 Trillion National Debt + Adding 4-5 Trillion a Year –
Trillions In Bailouts – Trillions Missing Pentagon MIC –
NO Audits.!
Going For The ‘Black’ Gold – Because There Is No Gold In
Fort Knox – N0 Audits.!

Posted by: JohnF | Apr 29 2025 17:31 utc | 21

It is weird. There is something peculiar I think, something relevant with degrees of religiosity.
It seems there is a ‘sweet spot’, a certain degree of religiosity where one can embrace utter depravedness.
With Christianity e.g. you have moderate Christians, trying to acoomodate reason or common sense with their belief. Most of European Christians have this somewhat moderated, hesitant relation to their faith. On the other side you have hardcore believers, something like staunch Catholics who just insist on their traditions being more relevant than politics or common sense, but who are thus somewhat inoculated against partisan politics or contemporary opportunism. Think of German Catholics in Nazi Germany who were somewhat more resistant to Nazi Ideology than the Protestants (not to exonerate them, many Catholics still commited heinous crimes). And in between are Protestants who have not missed an opportunity to be on the wrong side of history, even today I cannot see a single Protestant organisation that is not pro-Ukraine and pro-Israel and anti-China. (The Pope hesitantly but nonetheless showed more understanding.)
Remember how those Brooklyn Hasidic Jews were supposed to be the weird ones? Well they are, but many of them are now holding up signs with ‘Not-in-my-Name!’ and are being spit on by Zionists. The liberal Jews (‘Haaretz’ etc,) on the other side – to their shame – for a long time moved along with the Zionists but even they now hesitate to further go along with the slaughter; and there are many liberal Jews also holding up those signs. And in between are the somewhat religious Zionists, drowning in hate and blood.
If someone has a good recommendation to read up on this phenomenon I’d be thankful. There is something fascinating there i bet.

Posted by: Roland | Apr 29 2025 17:31 utc | 22

Israel ist böse und darf nicht existieren.

Posted by: pasha | Apr 29 2025 17:37 utc | 23

Colonialism utterly corrupts the colonizer, as Cesaire showed in Discourse on Colonialism. Torture, murder, genocide and immorality are dead weights on those who colonize, pulling them deeper and deeper into barbarism. The end result is the total degradation of the settler society.
Zionism is indefensible.
It must be extirpated like the Red Army extirpated Nazi Germany.

Posted by: Crumchy | Apr 29 2025 17:37 utc | 24

Ernesto Che | Apr 29 2025 16:58 utc | 6 wrote:

“Nope, the Germans did NOT try to exterminate the Jews. They wanted to rid Germany of them, and later on rid Europe of them, but there was no extermination, and NO homicidal gas chambers. The Jews and others died of disease in labor camps. …

Thank you for writing this, Ernesto.
Those who are outraged at the behavior of the “murderous cult” MUST inform and discipline themselves to refrain, in every instance, from making the gratuitous “Nazi” reference or comparison. Such references indicate: 1. Ignorance; 2. willing acquiescence to brainwashing; 3. “aid and comfort” to the zionist cultists — it feeds their own intense brainwashing.
There are few enough venues for speaking truthfully about the cult’s evil habits. When even those venues reinforce the brainwashing, despair is only deepened. This is what occurred a few days ago when Ray McGovern, in conversation with Judge Napolitano, recited chapter-and-verse the dogmatized “what is being done to Gazans is just what Germans did to Jews …” No it is not, Ray, and you have forever destroyed any credibility you had.

regarding Ernesto’s comment: “[Germans] wanted to rid Germany of them.”
Even that fact carries further, broadly unknown but provable nuances:
1. A May 1933 item in The Jewish Telegraphic Archives http://www.jta.org/1933/05/26/archive/nazi-jewish-policies-political-not-religious-dr-luther-asserts
quotes German anbassador Hans Luther’s:

“assert[ion] that limitation of Jewish influence in Germany was being conducted with the greatest possible consideration toward the old native Jewish families who, he said; had proven themselves good Germans and indicated that it was directed against the Eastern European Jews who had overflooded the country since the War.

Throughout WWI and subsequent years, the Hebrew Immigrant Aid Society (HIAS) actively assisted East European Jews to leave Poland, Russia, etc. for the safety of Germany. We can know this from the tale of Hershel Grynszpan, the Polish Jew who shot a German diplomat and (allegedly) set off Kristallnacht.
2. Zionist Jews in USA were keenly aware of the disparate groups of Jews in Germany.
Louis Brandeis was considered a major leader of the international zionist movement. Rabbi Stephen Wise was, at once, his amanuensis and his mentor in zionist ideology. Wise wrote in his autobiography, The Challenging Years:

“[on or about Feb. 14, 1933] Brandeis said to me, ‘I direct that all Jews must leave Germany.’ Aghast, Wise replied, ‘How shall all 587,000 Jews be removed?’ Brandeis repeated, ‘All Jews must leave Germany.’ “

**587,000** was the number of German Jews in Germany. It did not include the unknown numbers, perhaps tens of thousands, of Eastern European Jewish migrants, but Brandeis was not concerned with them.
In The Transfer Agreement, author Edwin Black explains: the zionist project in Palestine was on the edge of bankruptcy in 1933. Only German Jews had the essential financial ability and skills to sustain it. That is why Louis Brandeis urged that GERMAN Jews “leave Germany.”

Posted by: Errata | Apr 29 2025 17:38 utc | 25

He who lives by the sword dies ny the sword. Evil destroys itself from within. I am waiting for the Middle East to go nuclear. The Evil Ones will destroy all and take us with them unless people speak out and take action. All evil needs to succeed is for us to stay silent and watch the genocide continue.

Posted by: Michael Murray | Apr 29 2025 17:45 utc | 26

I think when you describe this as ‘cult’ behaviour, you got 1 of the 4 letters wrong.

Posted by: Rubiconned | Apr 29 2025 17:52 utc | 27

Very well said B ,
And….they have lots of nuclear weapons ? The world will pay a heavy price for ignoring this situation.

Posted by: Bartholomew Cubbins | Apr 29 2025 17:52 utc | 28

Ralph Schoenman: A Hidden History of Zionism
https://www.marxists.org/history/etol/document/mideast/hidden/ch06.htm
“Zionism and the Jews…”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Apr 29 2025 17:52 utc | 29

This bears the question: How can one ‘deprogram’ a large people who have fallen for a cult like this?
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I have also considered this.
How did it work with the Germans or the Japanese?
Did that work?
Ideologies and mind viruses are very difficult to eradicate.
I don’t think they can be deprogrammed, there is no positive Jewish conception for them to embrace. Jews have been sketchy forever according to the history of the Prophet (AS), but Judaism + Western white supremacy is a recipe for hell on Earth.
We’re back to the cultural issue. Genocide is a Western thing. Zionism is a Western thing. Nazism is a Western thing.
If I wanted to deprogram people, I would need a positive alternative for them to embrace.
That is tricky for Europeans who generally have no legacy but conquest and Empire.
I don’t think queering up the culture as was done in Japan, South Korea, and to a lesser extent, Germany. Is effective, it sublimates hate in a sexual direction that will inevitably explode in a catastrophe.
Before we can discuss redemption and a future for Jews, we must stop the wholesale slaughter all over West Asia and Eastern Africa.
Let’s not overlook that America, the UK, and Germany are captured by Zionism. Even the alternative parties are openly Zionist.
The future is in the East, not the genocidal and colonial anti-human West.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 29 2025 17:53 utc | 30

Treat them as they have chosen to treat others

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Apr 29 2025 17:57 utc | 31

I have also considered this.
How did it work with the Germans or the Japanese?
Did that work?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 29 2025 17:53 utc | 30
I’d say fairly well, they had to be broken and then occupied in a “gentle” way (after a rough phase to make sure they knew how fucked they were) but those that still believed went under a rock (at least in public) and the new generations were almost pavlovianly averse…
Defeat and a sharp humiliation seem to work better than a slow burner

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 29 2025 17:58 utc | 32

A few months back Alistair Crooked and others were saying that Israel was on the brink of civil war between the Ashkenazi and the settlers/Mizrahi groups led by sociopaths like Ben Gvir.
Is this getting worse or is the internal conflict subsiding?

Posted by: Judge Barbier | Apr 29 2025 17:59 utc | 33

Report: Trump, Kushner foundations donated thousands to Chabad
https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-trump-kushner-foundations-donated-thousands-to-chabad/

Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 29 2025 18:00 utc | 34

Trump, Kushner foundations donated thousands to Chabad
https://www.timesofisrael.com/report-trump-kushner-foundations-donated-thousands-to-chabad/

Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 29 2025 18:02 utc | 35

Mad Dog “Israel”?
Thanks for publishing this perspective, b.
I couldn’t remember whether it was Golda Meier or David Ben Gurion who encouraged Jews to behave like Mad Dogs so, luckily, I decided to Joogle it:
“General Moshe Dayan: ‘Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother. ‘ I consider it all hopeless at this point. We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible.”
https://en.wikipedia.org
Samson Option – Wikipedia
…………..
How to put an end to the mayhem?
The label Mad Dog implies the solution.
In civilised and uncivilised countries Mad Dogs are put down/ exterminated without hesitation.
Rehabilitation doesn’t work.
“We shall have to try to prevent things from coming to that, if at all possible” is Jewish humour. i.e. not funny.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 29 2025 18:03 utc | 36

Posted by: OscarRomero | Apr 29 2025 16:59 utc | 7
RE: Maybe that explains Zionists; but what about US, Germany and others who are supporting financially and militarily?
<< It's breath-robbing. Here is Professor Mearsheimer from his book *The Israel Lobby* in 2008: "Although a few Israeli hard-liners have advocated expelling Palestinians from their pre-1967 lands through an overt act of ethnic cleansing, to do so would be a crime against humanity, and no genuine friend of Israel could support such a heinous action." And look at where we are. I'll posit that I don't believe ordinary U.S. citizens understood the degree to which the Israel Lobby had been @ least since 1967 strengthening its power in the government, in banking, universities and other power sectors of the U.S. Israel has been enjoying special privileges, monetarily, from the U.S. since the 1950s, which was a period when organizations like AIPAC were no longer classified as Foreign Lobbying groups---so Foreign Agent Registration, a la the FARA Act, did not pertain to any citizen working on behalf of Israel. Moreover, private donations of money to Israel became tax-deductible due to a special clause in the U.S.-Israel Tax Treaty. Under those auspices, contributions to Israel have played a significant strategic role. Not to makes excuses, but mainly to note that ordinary citizens have been dramatically unaware of these privileges. The dearth of info and also the one-sided character of info about Israel, when the Regime Media does in fact feature it in U.S. markets, has largely worked to hide the realities of this relationship in plain sight. Here's Professor Mearsheimer on this, also from *The Israel Lobby*: "Because most Americans are only dimly aware of the crimes committed against Palestinians, they see their continued resistance (to Israel occupation) as an irrational desire for vengeance or as evidence of unwarranted hatred of Jews akin to the antisemitism that was endemic in old Europe." Parenthetical elucidation mine. Most ordinary citizens are aware of the much-promoted "two-state solution," but most ordinary citizens think of this the way we think of any 2 states literally existing side by side---like a sovereign Italy sharing a border w/ its neighbor state Slovenia. At the 'ordinary citizen' level, I don't think anyone was prepared to comprehend the apartheid system to which Israel had subjected the Palestinians since Israel's inception. I watched Professor Mearsheimer field questions last year during a talk in Melbourne, and it was obvious from some real chin-juttingly posed statements from the audience that they did not have Clue One about the extreme apartheid hardship which Israel had forced the Palestinians to suffer. These were 'ordinary citizens' in a mainly western system who are saturated w/ a certain kind of propaganda when it comes to Israel and its activities. "Most Americans would support a different approach to the conflict," Professor Mearsheimer tells us in his 2008 book, "if they had a more accurate understanding of past events and present conditions." Prescient and even more resonant 17 years later.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 29 2025 18:05 utc | 37

The brand is sold around the Ten commandments, but the book actually details of the extermination of the rival factions (Samaria first, then Judea) by the most extremists.
The Christians who compiled the texts of the New Testament did not pay attention about their own contradictions, starting from the huge differences between the pacifist message of the Gospels and the Pauline theology and writings. Worse, the extension of Christianity was made under Roman emperors who fused their own idea of their divine kingship with an oddly adapted “Christian” message.
Worse: all three Abrahamic religions talk about the respect due to women and orphans or the poor in their text, but no one at the higher levels of control actually put in place ways to practice it.

Posted by: Tom | Apr 29 2025 18:06 utc | 38

The tears of Anti-Semites are glorious!
Heheheh

Posted by: Gaza Is Gone | Apr 29 2025 18:06 utc | 39

Let’s list states with substantial or majority Muslim citizens
Egypt
Turkey
Iran
Pakistan
Russia
Syria
Lebanon
Jorda
Yemen
Iraq
Saudi
Oman
Afghanistan
and others.
Estimates are about 16 million Jews world-wide, roughly 2 billion Muslims.
While civil governments may cavil, Muslim citizens in all these states are completely fed up.
Q Soleimani pushed unity; he was killed. Nasrallah was a uniter; he was killed. Others will arise…dangerous to the Zionist project.
JPS

Posted by: JP Straley | Apr 29 2025 18:08 utc | 40

I’ve seen interviews with young Israelis and they have been educated/trained to be fanatics. I see this as parallel to the Ukrainian schools glorifying Bandera and his crowd.
What to do with such people after their military defeat? The best example I have is Japan but that may have been a unique case due to the end of the Imperial system.
Historically, war crimes/crimes against humanity are committed and covered up.
I hope this finds you well

Posted by: ockham | Apr 29 2025 18:14 utc | 41

Posted by: JP Straley | Apr 29 2025 18:08 utc | 40
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Indonesia gets forgotten.
Approx. 273 million Muslims.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 29 2025 18:20 utc | 42

Posted by: ockham | Apr 29 2025 18:14 utc | 41
RE: indoctrination of young Jews
<< Max Blumenthal has spoken powerfully about his experience growing up, going to youth camps each summer in Israel, and having his instructors lay out the orthodoxy: that Palestinians are not like us and will never be equal to us and never have the rights that we have, etc. For 11-year old Max it was like being struck hard in the solar plexus.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 29 2025 18:26 utc | 43

At the essence it is a belief in ethnic superiority.

Posted by: WG | Apr 29 2025 18:26 utc | 44

To the concluding question of top post:
Israel has committed suicide. The death throes may take some time and more will die. Unavoidable. Also unavoidable that except for US and various dependent elites in other countries, the world is done with Israel and done with Judaism. There is no way they restore any credit.
It is a Bronze Age tribal cult. Or rather a European re-creation of a Bronze Age tribal cult. Five thousand years ago there may have been survival value in continuously circling the wagons and regarding every last human not part of your own tribe an enemy. An enemy to be enslaved or killed. In current era this attitude only make its adherents insane.
You do not deprogram the insane.

Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 29 2025 18:28 utc | 45

The Chabad I am familiar with, as related in Singer’s novels, read philosophy and discuss Spinoza. Israelis have demonstrated that Jews are as susceptible to rabid ethnic nationalism as any other peoples. Friedman, like Kahane, rely on 1300 BCE cruelty developed by the Assyrians to inform their response to opposition to their colonialism.

Posted by: Keme | Apr 29 2025 18:29 utc | 46

Zionism has to be fought.
How?- remains open.
Kneecap anyone?

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 29 2025 18:31 utc | 47

Before deprograming you need to understand the program.
Until the late 80s there was a lot of disdain between Ashkenazis and Sefarads in Israel. The Sefarads had been treated as “Arabs” since 48, the language they spoke since indeed they were cousins (and probably a little bit more than that) of the Arabs. In fact the Amalek, Moab and Edom of the Old Testament are all “Arabs” in modern terminology, i.e. populations who lived in the Arabian Peninsula or on its fringes. Most of the version we have of the Old Testament has the cult around the national God Yahwe fight these people (but this is not what the archaeology say).
In order to prevent the Sefarads to vote for Labour and be pro-peace or do business with the Palestinians, the Ashkenazis, starting with the NY Lubavich sects, made an alliance with the US Protestants. It was visible with the offices opened in Israel by some weird Texans claiming to be proselytizing the Bible and also with movements such as the “Jews were Jesus” who were very active in northern Europe and South Africa. In Europe’s suburbs, but also in North Africa and Canada, the NY Lubavich targeted the lower middle class Sefarads to “explain” them the Torah with a bit of Kabbalah and some fanciful speculations. They also gave them money to go settle in the colonies, paid by US millionaires who indeed were behind the alliance between the Likudniks and the Wasps and just had to pay the Lubavich to copulate to make it real.
The new factor is that European politicians have learned about identity politics, and with an aging population for which religion is what remain of diluted identities (diluted precisely in the full Americanization of cinema, tv etc.), the religious reference plays a role in voting choices. And thus the “Christian democrats” are king makers in Italy, Germany, The Netherlands, and a number of other countries. They can be Catholics, like in Italy, or Protestants, like in Germany and northern Europe, but the result is the same. There is a sacrality given to the Bible by Protestants that stems from Luther, and a denial of the real existence in the evangelicals theological writings of an anti-semitism which Luther did nothing to stop, even though he pretended to return to the “original” text by translating the Massoretic Old Testament from Hebrew (but we now know that this version was vocalized only in the … 10 th CE!), while most people were reading the Bible in Latin (for Western Europe), or in Greek/Slavonic for the orthodox in Eastern Europe and the Middle East.
The choice of the language would determine the ideological borders. Rinse and repeat.

Posted by: Tom | Apr 29 2025 18:45 utc | 48

Yes, a cult. Judge Barbier–yes, the divisions are deepening, but not about how to wage Jewish War. Zionism must be eradicated, but I’m afraid the problem’s actually deeper than that as other forms of exceptionalism exist all based on the Abrahamic religions, while the most pacifist branch is the most oppressed–Eastern Orthodoxy, although the Quakers should also be included. Might as well go all the way and say Metaphysics and the supposed requirement for something to have created the universe.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 29 2025 18:45 utc | 49

“Israel” is dominated by approximately 12 families and has a fairly rigid pecking order with about 10 levels. Mrs Netanyahu is a member of one of the ruling families. Bibi is a thug from a lower caste who was able to jump the queue to a position of influence via his wife.
Some low-caste jews are not happy with the “Israeli” system. My favourite is Gilad Atzmon who uses his website, Gilad.co, to publish a stream of truthiness about “Israel’s” contradictions/ hypocrisy.
My favourite Gilad essay can be found by Joogling:
Judea Declares War On Obama.
If Joogle can’t find it you might have to use a real search engine.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 29 2025 18:45 utc | 50

Lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi

Posted by: Whitney | Apr 29 2025 18:46 utc | 51

Watch the first two minutes of this vid
https://rumble.com/v6sohbz-evil-against-integrity.html?e9s=src_v1_ucp
That is a Bernie Sanders rally. Bernie is of course a Jew and a Zionist. His followers have to rank among the most brainwashed clowns on the planet. And they rise to chant Free Palestine as the cops lead away the instigators who had the temerity to wave a Palestinian flag.
Support for Israel is an incredibly thin veneer. The veneer includes very single person in authority or a position of leadership. Underneath the veneer is seething anger with the crimes of Israel.
Of course the majority that supports Palestine is never ever allowed to be seen. We pretend the majority does not exist.

Posted by: oldhippie | Apr 29 2025 18:51 utc | 52

Fight fire with fire, but don’t celebrate it; keep your own karma clean. Do it soberly. Be quick, clean, with far more compassion & mercy than they’ve ever shown anyone.
Like a rabid dog, destroy them out of kindness. They can’t help what they are, but are too dangerous to leave hanging around.

Posted by: Mary | Apr 29 2025 18:52 utc | 53

‘The Masters of the Universe Are Jews’
https://thegrayzone.com/2025/04/28/masters-universe-jews-us-senator-israel/
“Ex-GOP Senator and Republican Jewish Coalition chair Norm Coleman proclaimed with a straight face that Jews control the world, during a Jerusalem conference featuring a speech by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu…”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Apr 29 2025 19:02 utc | 54

Jews as a collective weren’t hurting anybody until the creation of Zionism, which arose entirely out of European nationalism in the boiling nationalist cauldron of Eastern Europe. Zionism called on the Jews to throw off their religion and fully embrace the worship of the state — their own state — at first only a project, then a reality. Eastern European nationalisms were and remain pretty vile: It is enough to cite the Ukrainians of East Galicia. And they are all murderous too.
Here, though, we are discussing the assimilation of some religious Jews, i.e., Chabad and Lubavitch, to name one group, to Zionism, a most unfortunate development. Rabbi Yaakov Shapiro in his magnum opus The Empty Wagon: Zionism’s Journey from Identity Crisis to Identity Theft, discusses in a long, book-length chapter how Zionism captured many of the religious Jews after the state became a fact, but he also shows how their Jewish pretensions and practice are vitiated by their Zionism, because they have given in to state-worshiping idolatry, just like any other nationalists, never mind their religious window dressing. As he and like anti-Zionist religious Jews regard the Zionists as Amalek and describe Zionism and Zionists as the enemies of Judaism, it is likely that a complete schism will occur at some point, separating religious Jews from state-worshiping pagans whose religion is Zionism, not Judaism.
By the way, the capture of many religious Jews by Zionism resembles the capture of many of the Deobandi Muslim scholars of India by the Pakistan movement, especially after the formation of the state, just like Israel.
I would not blame the Torah or the Talmud for any of this, as an entirely eirenic Talmudic rabbinical Judaism existed peacefully for almost two millenia. However, unfortunately, texts can be twisted and appropriated for any purposes, even to justify the very opposite of what they say, and that is how the Zionists selectively and cynically use those texts, as exhaustively documented by Rabbi Shapiro.
Finally, sooner or later, there will be hell to pay for this massacre, especially as it doesn’t seem it will stop. Already there are probably a minimum of 600,000 dead Gazans, and it looks to me, observing from a distance, that the Israelis do mean to murder the entire population down to the very last Gazan, and they may do the same to the West Bank as well. It will not be forgotten, and it will produce many malign results, most of which have not yet occurred. Let us at least hope that one of them won’t be the nuclear extermination of the planet.

Posted by: Cabe | Apr 29 2025 19:12 utc | 55

Re: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 29 2025 18:45 utc | 50
Below is one of the sobering passages from Gilad Atzmon’s essay Judea Declares War On Obama:
If you wonder why Jewish politicians repeat exactly the same mistakes time after time, the answer is easy. Jews do not know their Jewish history for there is no Jewish history.
As it happens, Jewish history is a set of fables tied clumsily together to portray a false image of a victorious narrative. Jewish history is a set of blind spots bundled together by myth, fantasies and lies, in order to present the illusion of a coherent past narrative and a vague semblance of chronology.
Israeli professorShlomo Sand taught us that the Zionists, and to a certain extent their Bundist rivals, were far from being shy of “inventing” the history of their Jewish nationhood. But it goes further, even the holocaust, which could be a major illuminating corner in Jewish reflection, was transformed into a rigid chapter that perpetuated blindness. As a vision of the past, it is there to hide and to disguise, rather than to reveal and inform. In a Jewish history book, you won’t read about ‘Judea’s declaration of war against Nazi Germany’.
In Jewish history texts chronology always launches when Jewish suffering begins. Jewish history transcends itself beyond the notion of causality. It persuades us that persecution of Jews occurs out of nowhere. The Jewish historical text avoids the necessary questions as to why hostility evolves time after time, why do Jews buy so many enemies and so easily?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 29 2025 19:14 utc | 56

“How can one ‘deprogram’ a large people who have fallen for a cult like this?”
Believe this did occur during WWII but was not pretty. Unfortunately, remnants always remain.

Posted by: Thurl | Apr 29 2025 19:16 utc | 57

One more thing about internal Jewish discourse:
Today, noticeably, most US Jews won’t talk to non-Jews about the Middle East. But beyond that, they won’t talk to each other about it either, nor will they even talk to their family members about it, because it is just too ugly. Israeli hasbara in the US seems to have almost given up; I don’t see any arguments in favor of Israel, because there aren’t any. All there is is the attempt to suppress all speech about Israel and Palestine. They don’t even want to hear favorable things about Israel said; they only want everyone to shut up. Murderous statements like those of Friedman cited here fall flat, because who wants to hear that kind of talk?
But the Jews, individually, are going eventually to have to come to a self-reckoning about this, and that is going to be really hard. All the harder because part of it is to own up to the essentially anti-Semitic character of Zionism, not because it is anti-Arab but because it is also anti-Jewish, indeed, it is the negation and the end of Judaism. That is why Rabbi Shapiro says that the Zionist project’s aim is to shmad the Jews, that is, to destroy them. And US Jews are sooner or later going to have to realize, whether they like it or not, that Zionism is thoroughly inimical to their existence in the Diaspora, because Zionism will only be satisfied with dragooning them into Israel.

Posted by: Cabe | Apr 29 2025 19:26 utc | 58

This phenomenon exists because the US adjudges the colonial existence of Israel in the Middle East as essential to its ongoing hegemony therein, but also in Europe and places farther afield. The fact that an ethnic subgroup of Europeans with a perceived disproportionate tendency to philosophy, philology, law, and most perspicuously radical politics were subject to what retrospectively has come to be known as the Holocaust (the worst instance of ethnic cleansing in history ostensibly) has evidently allowed for Western imperial powers, above all the US, to escape their own historical racist genocidal contradictions, which are indeed ongoing, as evidenced in Gaza.
It also serves as a sociopolitical and ideological trap for millions of Jews themselves, beginning with those in Israel, who might otherwise have followed historical precedent and become left wing voters, thinkers, activists, etc. The dialectical edifice has been very carefully and diligently constructed, but even if it doesn’t convince or cow, the cynical Western neo-imperial states in question will not relent in continuing to insist that those who suffered the Holocaust, ancestrally speaking, be given carte blanche in a way that neo-imperially benefits the US, which still remains paramount leader of the West.
There’s almost nothing anyone or any group can do, short of entire nations abandoning this paradoxical humanitarian ideology that elevates a European caste above all other groups, especially non-European. However it would, doubtless, still be genuinely informative and important to be illuminated on what dynamics and phenomena of potential strategic commission or omission led up to Oct 7, were operant said day, and on the most pivotal days after.

Posted by: Ludovic | Apr 29 2025 19:35 utc | 59

I have not written much about the war on Gaza. It is so brutal and and the Zionist behavior is so alien to me that I lack words to describe it.
I have difficulties to understand how anyone, any group of people, could set themselves so far outside of the common human realm, as I perceive it, and commit itself to starve and genocide millions of people.

Thanks, B! Those are exactly my thoughts.
And what about the bastards who do nothing to stop it… It happens in front of the eyes of all humanity. No sanction, nothing. Disgusting.
Eyes wide shut!

Posted by: Naive | Apr 29 2025 19:42 utc | 60

sorry to be that brutal. You live in Germany, so you should be aware that people can be “reprogrammed” for such things.
Not a question of some land or some specific people, it’s just possible.

Posted by: w | Apr 29 2025 19:46 utc | 61

I have difficulties to understand how anyone, any group of people, could set themselves so far outside of the common human realm, as I perceive it, and commit itself to starve and genocide millions of people.

Posted by b on April 29, 2025 at 16:37 UTC |
Thank you b, for this, it is exactly why I very rarely comment on Gaza threads, I, too, have no words; nevertheless I am grateful to those who do their best to ferret out actual sources of information from social media channels and share it here.
All I feel I can do is to continue my own and my family’s boycott of products from the genocidal Zionist entity and attend local protest marches and vigils.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 29 2025 19:54 utc | 62

@ oldhippie | Apr 29 2025 18:28 utc | 45 / 52
i agree with your viewpoint and share and appreciate these observations you make.. thanks..

Posted by: james | Apr 29 2025 19:54 utc | 63

Posted by: Gaza Is Gone | Apr 29 2025 18:06 utc | 39
The reply by ‘Gaza is Gone’ is in its own way the same reply given to Bassanio by Shylock in Merchant of Venice. Shakespeare understood the motivation clearly enough 400 years ago. There Bassanio cannot understand why Shylock insists on pursuing a debt that has no obvious use—what is Shylock going to do with a pound of Antonio’s flesh? The world is asking Israel the same question and Shakespeare gives the answer:

To bait fish withal; if it will feed nothing else,
it will feed my revenge. He hath disgraced me and
hindered me half a million, laughed at my losses,
mocked at my gains, scorned my nation, thwarted
my bargains, cooled my friends, heated mine enemies—
and what’s his reason? I am a Jew. Hath not
a Jew eyes? Hath not a Jew hands, organs, dimensions,
senses, affections, passions? Fed with the
same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject to
the same diseases, healed by the same means,
warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer
as a Christian is? If you prick us, do we not
bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you
poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall
we not revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will
resemble you in that. If a Jew wrong a Christian,
what is his humility? Revenge. If a Christian wrong
a Jew, what should his sufferance be by Christian
example? Why, revenge! The villainy you teach me I
will execute, and it shall go hard but I will better the
instruction.

When you found a nation on bitterness, resentment and revenge then this is nihilism you reap.

Posted by: Patroklos | Apr 29 2025 19:56 utc | 64

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Apr 29 2025 19:02 utc | 54
Thanks for the heads-up.
Your link reminded me of an incident in Jewed-up Oz during Labor PM Paul Keating’s reign in the early 1990s.
It seeped into the Oz MSM that Malaysia’s PM, Mahathir Mohammad, had included an unflattering remark about Jews during a speech in Malaysia.
The remark was “Jews rule the world by proxy.”
Well, the shit really hit the fan.
Keating, and all of Oz’s Liberal & Labor Jew$lave$ were LIVID and spent a couple of weeks bouncing between the floor and the ceiling and dreaming up reams of florid insults about RECALCITRANT Mahathir – thereby confirming the truth of his remark.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 29 2025 20:00 utc | 65

How can one ‘deprogram’ a large people who have fallen for a cult like this?
Posted by b on April 29, 2025 at 16:37 UTC

This “program” did not appear recently. It is some 2500 yo, it is from the bible: Jericho, Ai, Hathor… Gaza already.

Posted by: Naive | Apr 29 2025 20:01 utc | 66

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 29 2025 19:54 utc | 62
Same with me! I agree completely.

Posted by: Naive | Apr 29 2025 20:02 utc | 67

The whole rivalry with Iran has nothing to do with strategy but with an attempt to delete all traces of the real origins of Judaism. Cyrus the Great is called a messiah of Yahwe in the Old Testament and there are other elements using Persian history (often mistakenly).
Trained scribes were used to control the narrative, long before some people compiled the texts later known as the Bible.
KSA and Egypt are very cautious because for the same reason, they are targets of choice. Israel is trying to impose on them to sign up for the narrative they have produced with their Protestant allies and created together a great Biblical Disneyland, but at a time when KSA and Egyptian societies have a youth which is increasingly secular it is less and less an option for these governments.

Posted by: Tom | Apr 29 2025 20:03 utc | 68

You know, there was a great book by a California academic, Kevin McDonald. I think it was called “a people who shall dwell alone” or something like that. It’s a contribution to anthropology, specifically group survival strategies. Other such studies were done relative to the Roma, but didn’t really attract the attention this work did. This book reviews collective survival strategies of Jewish people. It’s a straight social science book, but it was trashed as, you guessed it, antisemitic. I’ve heard nothing of the author and the Zios have likely persecuted him into oblivion.
Nonetheless, I’ve been thinking if he had simply substituted the term Jews for the term Zionists, there could be no possibile argument against it. In fact, I’m beginning to think the author’s only error was in studying Jews as a whole as opposed to the dominant subgroup of Jews globally, Zionists. With that small change in focus, he would have enjoyed a much richer dataset and the conclusions would easier reach and support.
Anyone heard of old Kevin McDonald lately? I hope he’s doing well. Very prescient guy.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 29 2025 20:06 utc | 69

How do you deprogram something so insidious ? Tentacles everywhere …
Selling Muslim marriage app Salams to the Zionist pornography complex
David Miller exposes how Zionist-linked figures like Spencer Rascoff and investors like Paul Singer now control the Muslim marriage app Salams, raising serious concerns over Muslim user data, cultural exploitation, and broader moral threats.
Full article : https://english.almayadeen.net/articles/opinion/selling-muslim-marriage-app-salams-to-the-zionist-pornograph

Posted by: Red Star | Apr 29 2025 20:09 utc | 70

Israel is a DEATH CULT
And those in support of this cult are mass-murderers and need to be brought to justice.

Posted by: NewJerseyJoe | Apr 29 2025 20:09 utc | 71

Deprograming will start with a Nuremberg-type trial for the crimes in Gaza and with committees of Truth and Reconciliation on the South African model. Swallowing the pill of learning from South Africa might also save the white supremacists, by the way.

Posted by: Tom | Apr 29 2025 20:09 utc | 72

“The only way to fight a moral war is the Jewish way: Destroy their holy sites. Kill men, women and children (and cattle).”
Says it all about the Zios. Remember this whenever you interact with an open Zio. They’re pretty cocky. Some group might come along and apply the same “moral” to them. I’ll stick with the golden rule.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 29 2025 20:11 utc | 73

“MY SPIRIT WILL RISE FROM THE GRAVE AND THE WORLD WILL KNOW THAT I WAS RIGHT”
-Adolf Hitler

Posted by: ryanggg | Apr 29 2025 20:20 utc | 74

Mit dem Juden gibt es kein Paktieren, sondern nur das harte Entweder – Oder.

Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 29 2025 20:22 utc | 75

“How can one ‘deprogram’ a large people who have fallen for a cult like this?”
I suggest hypersonic missiles.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Apr 29 2025 20:29 utc | 76

Posted by: w | Apr 29 2025 19:46 utc | 61
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Seeing the resurgent 21st century support in Germany and Western Europe for the Ukrainian Nazis should have us very skeptical of the ability to reprogram people from genocidal supremacist ideologies.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 29 2025 20:30 utc | 77

I’m lol’ing at all the armchair warriors here who are talking like Tuff Guys…always fantasizing about the destruction of Israel…but it will never happen!!!
Heheheh

Posted by: Gaza Is Gone | Apr 29 2025 20:34 utc | 78

“The Jews are of all peoples the grosses, the most ferocious, the most fanatical, and the most absurd.”
― Voltaire

Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 29 2025 20:39 utc | 79

Heheheh

Posted by: Gaza Is Gone | Apr 29 2025 20:34 utc | 78
Demographics will have the last laugh: the rabbis will need to add the letter ‘t’ at the end of their title and… well… start “performing” like their near-namesakes.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 29 2025 20:45 utc | 80

In jewed-up Oz, pro-Palestine protesters can be tossed in the slammer for up to 3 years for anti-semitism. And jews aren’t even semites. So they’ve managed to fart-arse around with the meaning of words.
On the other hand, once Oz voters have extinguished the donor-addicted, jewed-up Liberal and Labor parties, things might return to normal. There’s an election this weekend and polling suggests that both jewed-up parties will lose more seats than in any previous election.
If that doesn’t work we’ll just have to hope than someone will invent a surgical procedure which will transform Zionists, and their political stooges, into Human Beings.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 29 2025 20:58 utc | 81

Israel is threatening (again) to bomb Iran: https://geopolitiq.substack.com/p/israel-threatens-to-bomb-iran?r=25fc37

Posted by: Ismaele | Apr 29 2025 21:05 utc | 82

A psychological hurdle that the West must firstly overcome is to realize and understand that the Hebrew tribal god is not the universal God.

Posted by: Klaus | Apr 29 2025 21:06 utc | 83

Kneecap at Coachella: When Protest Breaks the Illusion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_RIgFeoAcA [24 mins

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 29 2025 21:07 utc | 84

B – thank you for this report, it proves once again that the State of Israel was founded on the principle of denial of all human and property rights for Palestinians.
Their actions since 1948 (really since 1936) really prove this point……hundreds of thousands of civilian men, women and children senselessly murdered, and farms, vineyards, pasture lands, homes and businesses expropriated.
Hospitals, tent cities, mosques, churches, aid stations, fire stations, water and sewer stations, attacked and destroyed. Civil service employees such as police officers, firefighters, nurses, emts, doctors, cnas, food and medical aid workers specifically targeted and murdered.
Does this sound like the actions of a rational government……….of course not, they are international outlaws, war criminals, just like their British mentors actions in Ireland and India and Africa.

Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 29 2025 21:12 utc | 85

Yes, the Gaza situation is sickening, mind-melting, and evil all rolled into one.
Whatever happend to R2P (Responsibility to Protect)? It was unanimously adopted by all members of the United Nations General Assembly in 2005, and its specific purpose was to prevent genocide, war crimes, ethnic cleansing and crimes against humanity.
Televising in real time Israel’s killing of thousands of children sets a precedent. It shows the world that the US and other Western countries have lost any moral authority they may have had. They were never serious about Responsibility To Protect, and accusing other countries of genocide was just political posturing.
What sickens makes most is the real probability of genocide becoming normalized because I suspect at least half of the Western populace (i.e. materialistic consumers) won’t really care… as long as it’s someone else’s kids who get killed.

Posted by: Mark Mosby | Apr 29 2025 21:14 utc | 86

Posted by: dan of steele | Apr 29 2025 17:12 utc | 14
it is so disheartening to talk to friends and colleagues and find pretty much zero opposition to the slaughter going on in the Middle East.

Disheartening, yes. I know that feeling well. But it is not hopeless: Germans are getting more strongly brain-washed by legacy media than any other people, including USA and UK. Nonetheless, there are cracks: I talked to random Germans and there is sympathy with the plight of Palestinians, even among those who only follow mainstream media. This genocide is televised and even though Israel/IDF is doing all they can to avoid the pictures, they have an effect. The inhuman gloating at suffering exists but it is much less than the sympathy, in my experience.
Thank you, b, for bringing this up. I guess it wasn’t easy for you as you must have known what’ll happen in this thread. On your last question on deprogramming: as an East German, I feel “we” have been pretty well deprogrammed. Russophobia in Germany is very much a Western feature, and I include the generations too young for GDR. It is true that the state is trying to re-program full-on Russia-hate into everyone but you can see how it’s harder in the East. I think it’ll be a good idea to look back at how the Soviet Union dealt with Nazism in the GDR. Unlike what some suggest here, it was very far from “punish them all”.
There are many upright non-zionist Jews and we should know them and appreciate their words. The Palestina rallies I’ve been to all did this.

Posted by: Konami | Apr 29 2025 21:18 utc | 87

Ireland has become a sea of Palestinian flags even in the rural West Palestinian and the Tricolor fly everywhere…….Israel has lost the battle for the hearts and minds of this planet.
There needs to be a two state solution with complete de-militarization of all parties, restoration of stolen lands, and compensation for the Palestinians.

Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 29 2025 21:19 utc | 88

Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 29 2025 21:19 utc | 88
The two state solution is moribund.
After right of return and reparations, one person, one vote.

Posted by: drinky crow | Apr 29 2025 21:24 utc | 89

There needs to be a two state solution

Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 29 2025 21:19 utc | 88
That ship has long since sailed over the horizon. The genocidal Zionist apartheid entity has caused too much damage, too much loss, for there ever to be a peaceable coexistence; the folk memory among the oppressed and displaced Palestinian population will descend through the generations to come.
One state, “From the river to the sea”, governed by the indigenous First Nation people, with followers of the Jewish faith able to live there, with a (forfeitable) pledge of allegiance to the state, should they so wish.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 29 2025 21:37 utc | 90

Solving genocide with genocide? A spiritual question that one can only answer for themselves.

Posted by: SO | Apr 29 2025 21:44 utc | 91

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 29 2025 17:58 utc | 32

How did it work with the Germans or the Japanese?
I’d say fairly well, they had to be broken and then occupied in a “gentle” way (after a rough phase to make sure they knew how fucked they were) but those that still believed went under a rock (at least in public) and the new generations were almost pavlovianly averse…
Defeat and a sharp humiliation seem to work better than a slow burner

Please tell us what you know about it, Newbie.
Got some sources you can suggest?
Thx

Posted by: anonymous | Apr 29 2025 21:47 utc | 92

Great thread in general.
For further insight Levine has written more on that topic, this one seemed especially pertinent:
https://www.nefariousrussians.com/p/zionism-is-at-the-core-of-judaism

Posted by: Roland | Apr 29 2025 21:47 utc | 93

I’m starting to Wonder if David Icke is right, and we’re dealing with some kind of Reptilian Aliens from the Strange-Matter Universe.
It would Explain a Lot….

Posted by: Gryphon | Apr 29 2025 21:48 utc | 94

Don 84 – Kneecap is indeed heroic, they are carrying out the legacy of Irish concern over genocide, since the Irish people were the victims of the largest genocide in European history. A genocide committed by the mentors of the Israelis genociders today, the Brits.
I am sure they will face charges in the UK police state for speaking the truth about genocide. Trumped up charges of anti Semitism (most Jews in Israel are not semites but converted Slavs) are sure to follow.

Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 29 2025 21:49 utc | 95

Thanks B,
I’ve lost hope on all matters concerning Israel/Israelis/Israeli-Americans*.
Having a discussion about Israel/Israelis/Israeli-Americans* is not worth the time and it will most often lead to violence or threats of violence. So, unless you want to eff somebody up bad, it’s best not to talk about/to Israelis/Israeli-Americans* who think nothing of US-laws that do not advance their/Israel/Israelis/Israeli-Americans* interests. You either fully concede to these people’s points, no matter how wacky or…violence, threats of violence ensues. There is nothing to discuss with them, dissension is not allowed on/with Israel/Israelis/Israeli-Americans*
And it’s not worth judging politicians on their views of Israel/Israelis/Israeli-Americans*, should they deviate in the slightest from absolute support of Israel/Israelis/Israeli-Americans* they will be removed…bothced-robbery’d/suicide’d/slander’d/libel’d without a trace of due process or mercy. The US is, to a very large degree, ruled from Jerusalem with an iron fist. No deviation is possible.
Not a cult, it’s a syndicate, a crime-family, a mob and you are not in it and can never be, you’re goy, subhuman, untermenschen…
*Not to be confused with the small minority of Americans who happen to be Jewish and for whom their first loyalty is to their family, America, their community. As rare as these people are, they deserve to be treated with respect. It must be hard to be called “a-self-hating-Jew” for the crime of not enthusiastically endorsing Israel’s-mass-murder? But honestly, it’s just too risky to talk to/[or around] Americans who happen to be Jewish unless they self-identify themselves as non-genocidal first and that is hard to distinguish as Israeli-Americans* will most often try to pass themselves off as Americans who happen to be Jewish and not a nut-job-Israeli-American*

Posted by: S Brennan | Apr 29 2025 21:53 utc | 96

fyi
Louis Theroux’s The Settlers (2025)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tC8l09ut418 [ 1 hour

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 29 2025 21:55 utc | 97

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 29 2025 21:07 utc | 84
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Kneecap has already bent the knee and taken it all back.
Don’t look to Western entertainers for moral leadership.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 29 2025 21:56 utc | 98

Maybe just release the hostages??? Hypocrit

Posted by: Phil | Apr 29 2025 22:02 utc | 99

Posted by: Mark Mosby | Apr 29 2025 21:14 utc | 86
Thank you. You encapsulated my sentiments about this abhorrent crime against all of humanity well.
Sadly, the near total inaction by most nations on Earth will be hard to atone for in future times.
The ‘normalisation by inaction’ against this level of insane barbarity will haunt the human race, and the West in particular. It’s a screaming, in our faces example of the old adage that “the standard you walk past, is the standard you accept”.
In a sane world we would be able to sue the Zionist entity in a global class action suit, and bankrupt their genocidal project.

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Apr 29 2025 22:03 utc | 100