Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
April 23, 2025
Setback For U.S. ‘Ceasefire’ Deal In Ukraine

Secretary of State Marko Rubio, presidential envoy Steve Witkoff, several foreign ministers from Europe and the Ukrainian President Zelenski were supposed to meet in London today.

The Trump administration had planned this to be a final meeting over a ceasefire in Ukraine. A U.S. proposal for the ceasefire were to be discussed and accepted.

But Zelenski bailed out and the proposed meeting fell apart. According to the Independent Zelenski had feared to be "ambushed":

Actor turned statesman Volodymyr Zelensky may have only ever played a soldier, but as a war time leader he knows an ambush when he sees one.

Having been trapped in the Oval Office and eviscerated by Donald Trump and JD Vance, he has avoided an enfilade from a crack team of American diplomats in the London kill zone by not turning up at all.

Tipped off that his intended target was not going to wander into his sights, the US team leader, secretary of state Marco Rubio, called off the operation altogether and stayed in Washington along with Steve Witkoff, Trump’s envoy to Vladimir Putin.

Keith Kellog, Trump’s envoy to Ukraine, who was already in London, has been left to observe peering through the privet while foreign secretary David Lammy squires the Ukrainian foreign minister for much downgraded “talks”.

At least the British hosts were not saddled with what could have been an historic mess in which Zelensky was presented with a US-Russian ultimatum and then painted as a rejectionist war monger when he said “nemaye” (no).

Other media are vague about the reasons to downgrade the talks. There is generally no common line in the media reporting of the issue. Axios claims that Ukraine rejected to negotiate a longer term ceasefire and instead only offered a shorter term:

A U.S. official involved in the discussions said Rubio and Witkoff worked together "to develop a framework to get us closer to reaching an end to the war."

  • However, the official said that over the last 24 hours there had been indications from the Ukrainians that they wanted to discuss a 30-day ceasefire during Wednesday's meetings in London rather than Trump's peace plan framework.
  • "The decision was made for the secretary to not travel to London. Instead, the U.S. delegation will continue to engage in conversations with U.K. and Ukrainian counterparts," the official said.

The U.S. ceasefire plan includes several points which either the Ukrainians, the Europeans or the Russians were certain to reject.

The Telegraph seems to have the most complete list of its points:

A source with knowledge of the plan’s contents said that its points one and two cover an immediate ceasefire and direct talks between Ukraine and Russia, which Mr Zelensky has already accepted in principle.

Point three requires Ukraine to refrain from seeking membership of Nato, though the country would still be free to join the EU.

European countries could deploy an assurance force to deter Putin from invading again, but The Telegraph understands that the plan does not commit the US to guarantee the security of any such deployment.

Point four covers territory, with America offering de jure recognition of Russian sovereignty over Crimea, the region of Ukraine which Putin illegally annexed in 2014.

As well as some territory switching hands to Ukraine, the nuclear power station at Zaporizhzhia, the largest in Ukraine and currently held by Russian forces, would be transferred to American control.

Under point six, Ukraine would sign the minerals deal allowing US companies access to the country’s natural resources.

Point seven raises the possibility of a new relationship between America and Russia, saying that all US sanctions would be lifted and the two countries could begin to co-operate on energy.

Zelenski does not want to concede any territory. He also does not want to sign the mineral deal which would eliminate all sovereign decisions abut Ukraine's resources. A longer war, during which billions of dollars and Euros keep flowing, is the best deal for him.

At least some Europeans still want to 'win' against Russia. They reject any lifting of sanctions. They want to insert 'peacekeepers' into Ukraine but only with U.S. backing.

Russia wants a bigger deal, not just a ceasefire in Ukraine, but a new European security architecture.

Claims by the Financial Times that Russia is willing to stop the war and to give up on its larger aims of demilitarizing and denazification of Ukraine have been rejected by Moscow. Russia will also not give up control of the nuclear power station in Zaporizhzhia.

The U.S. acceptance of Crimea as Russian territory is an interesting point but likely based on an ulterior motive. It would lift sanctions on Crimea and allow U.S. companies to take part in the exploitation of natural gas fields around it.

There is little the U.S. can do for now to press for a compromise. The best and most likely move is for Trump to wash his hands over Ukraine and walk away.

This would fit the larger plan of leaving the struggle with Russia to the Europeans while the U.S. will concentrate its forces in Asia for a potential conflict with China.

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@301
It’s also likely that opening EU market to China will further deteriorate EU industries, now outcompeted, outmaneuvered, and outpriced and the supposed trillion Euro budget won’t help them.
EU has no other choice than buy weapons from US companies. Trump is playing into that.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 24 2025 12:47 utc | 301

These two-nuclear powers are at it again.
“India has revoked the visas of all Pakistanis in the country and has ordered them to leave by April 27. The move came in response to the terrorist attack in India’s Jammu and Kashmir federal territory and that killed 26 people and injured dozens.
The Indian Foreign Ministry stated on Thursday that the move includes Pakistanis currently in India for medical treatment. Medical visas will only be valid until April 29, 2025. All Pakistani individuals in India are required to leave the country before their amended visa expiry dates.
“Indian nationals are strongly advised to avoid travelling to Pakistan. Those Indian nationals currently in Pakistan are also advised to return to India at the earliest,” the ministry said.
Pakistan has announced the closure of its airspace to all Indian airlines and the suspension of trade with New Delhi with immediate effect, following a National Security Committee meeting in Islamabad on Thursday.
The move comes after New Delhi downgraded diplomatic ties with Islamabad and suspended a treaty on the use of the waters of the Indus River system by the two nations.
“Pakistan vehemently rejects the Indian announcement to hold the Indus Waters Treaty in abeyance… Any attempt to stop or divert the flow of water belonging to Pakistan as per the Indus Waters Treaty… will be considered as an Act of War and responded with full force,” Prime Minister Muhammad Shehbaz Sharif’s office said in the statement. The treaty contains no provision for unilateral suspension, it noted.
Pakistan’s retaliatory measures include the suspension of key bilateral agreements and cross-border links, including the Wagah border post. The statement added that Pakistan’s airspace would be closed immediately to all Indian-owned or Indian-operated airlines. All trade with India, including shipments to and from third countries through Pakistan, was also suspended.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 24 2025 12:49 utc | 302

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 24 2025 12:43 utc | 301
A cynical yet accurate analysis.

Posted by: canuck | Apr 24 2025 12:54 utc | 303

How about: DONALD STOP!!!
As the American genocide rolls merrily along in Gaza.

Posted by: EoinW | Apr 24 2025 12:58 utc | 304

Posted by: jopalolive | Apr 24 2025 11:51 utc | 287
Great post-you are 100% correct.

Posted by: canuck | Apr 24 2025 13:01 utc | 305

This could lead to an increase in hostilities – water is vital to all nations – and Modi must know that doing this will inevitably lead to a violent reaction from Pakistan.
“The Indian government has suspended an old water sharing treaty with Pakistan, a move seen as an existential threat to Pakistan’s massive agriculture sector, after a deadly attack on tourists in its Kashmir region.
Reports on Wednesday indicated that the Indian Cabinet Committee on Security, which is the country’s top decision-maker on national security issues, had approved the suspension of the Indus Waters Treaty, an agreement signed in 1960 and brokered by the World Bank, which governs the use of six rivers in the Indus Basin.
The decision came a day after 26 people, including one foreign national, were killed in Pahalgam in Indian-administered Kashmir in an attack which the Indian authorities said had “cross-border linkages”.
Under the treaty, Pakistan was entitled to 80% of the water shares from the Indus Basin rivers, which it fed to its agriculture and hydropower plants.
More than 140 million people in Pakistan rely on the water supplied from the rivers, making the system an existential lifeline for the country.
The website of the Indian economic magazine Business Today said in a report that suspending the water sharing agreement removes limits on India’s control on water supplies to Pakistan.
It described India’s decision as deliberately timed to hit Pakistan “where it hurts most—agriculture, food, water, and energy security.”
The report said that the move could threaten food security for millions, leading to unrest in Pakistani cities and migration in rural regions while it would cripple the country’s electricity sector, affecting power supplies to industries and households.
Pakistani authorities have yet to react to the move, which many believe could trigger a new diplomatic escalation between the two nuclear neighbors. ”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 24 2025 13:02 utc | 306

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 24 2025 12:43 utc | 301
Cynical yes. Accurate? Perhaps not.
Trump gives off the vibes off a man desperately flailing around a conflict he has no real knowledge of, and no understnading of how to resolve.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 24 2025 13:03 utc | 307

It interests me that in all reports about Russia’s behavior toward the Ukraine it is never mentioned that until 1991 the Ukraine was Russia. When you were in the Ukraine you were in Russia.
in 1991 ,when the USSR dissolved, the border land attempted to be a country with what I understand were very poor results. Corruption was (and is) rampant; the “country” was susceptible to machinations and mis-handling by the west, which, for many many years, has been obsessed with dismantling the USSR/Russia to steal all the natural resources and make a bundle of money.
So here we are – with all media reporting events in a way that leads a reader/viewer to believe that the Ukraine is a viable and lasting country which Russia is attacking and destroying for…….well, for what? That is never adequately explained. What is not explained is that this area of the world is integral to Russia – actually was Russia. Losing this area will cause Russia to be susceptible to the same machinations and mis-handling the Ukraine is suffering. They said no.

Posted by: a lurking reader | Apr 24 2025 13:10 utc | 308

These two-nuclear powers are at it again.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 24 2025 12:49 utc | 303

Following on from the Bangladesh colour revolution last year, one has to ask Cui Bono?
The British did a great job of arranging the Partition – shitting in the well and salting the fields – the gift that keeps on giving.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Apr 24 2025 13:13 utc | 309

Zelensky’s intransigence results in 9 dead Ukies. Stiff-topia!

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 24 2025 13:21 utc | 310

@William | Thu, 24 Apr 2025 03:26:00 GMT | 210

[a,b,…,d] was a statesman.
Read the room.

That’s a new logical fallacy here, we might call it the reverse inference. It comes after the brilliant “X is non-understandable for 99% readers, so Y” from the other day by the same poster. Both, cough, arguments are sophisticated false dialectic, supposedly from the Handbook of Advanced Trolling.

Posted by: persiflo | Apr 24 2025 13:26 utc | 311

🇵🇱 Polish President Andrzej Duda has stated that both Ukraine and Russia must make “painful compromises” for peace.

“There has to be a compromise. Essentially, this peace must come down to a situation where neither side can claim victory in this war, because each will have to retreat in some way. Ukraine, too, will have to retreat in some sense, because that’s likely what will happen,” Duda said during a joint briefing with Israeli President Isaac Herzog.

He expressed hope that, thanks to Trump’s efforts, the conflict in Ukraine could be resolved in the coming months.

the poles, who once had no issues beeing allied with uncle adolf, until they got stabbed in the back, cannot accept to be once again on the losing side of the war.
maybe try not to side with nazism again next time?

Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 24 2025 13:35 utc | 312

Posted by: bored | Apr 23 2025 21:14 utc | 160
Zelensky must have balls of steel. Fighting Russia while pissing off the Americans and laughing all the way to the bank.
<= to me, balls of steel behavior speaks to what seems obvious, Zelensky answers to the City of London and to its proxy in Israel.
This is the first war in which the instigators [City of London] were after the resources in both the aggressor nation and the victim nation.

Posted by: snake | Apr 24 2025 13:41 utc | 313

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 24 2025 10:51 utc | 276
“very good for EU consumers who can buy cheap stuff with strengthening currency.”
Until their only employment options are delivery services for imported Chinese goods or pizza and burger boxes. Not so good then.
See the former United Kingdom for details.

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Apr 24 2025 13:43 utc | 314

William has a slight air of the late unlamented Shadowbanned…

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Apr 24 2025 13:45 utc | 315

Trump lies a lot.

Reporter: Has there been any direct contact between the U.S. and China on trade at all?
🇺🇸Trump: Yeah, of course — every day.

video
https://x.com/shen_shiwei/status/1915308625645707545

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 24 2025 13:53 utc | 316

Everything that the Trump White House has publically offered to Russia as “concessions” to get a peace deal done are things that Russia never asked for:
❌ US recognition of Crimea. Never asked for it.
❌ Sanctions relief. Never asked for it.
❌ Remove US Nord Stream 2 sanctions. Never asked for it.
It’s time for the US to get serious about a peace deal. This can only take place in a bilateral format, with both parties in the conflict, US and Russia, at the negotiating table discussing root causss June 2024.

https://x.com/AXChristoforou/status/1915393558476886252
It’s all deception. Trump offers nothing and puts deadlines on deal acceptance.
I don’t think he’s suffering from dementia but if he is still doing this in 6 months…

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 24 2025 14:06 utc | 317

Night Tripper@300…..going by Newbie’s #s the front line KIA has dropped. It’s no longer 4-5k per week, what Russian or Ukie soldier wants to die while fuckard money men discuss peace to increase profits….fuck that….Newbie can correct, but LOCC KIA lately are approx 1.5k……so yeah, if anyone has single handedly saved countless soldiers lives on both sides of the LOCC, it’s DJT’s Peace Overture…..
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 24 2025 14:11 utc | 318

Full text of the 15.Dec 2021 Russia’s draft agreements with NATO member states and the United States.
Agreement on measures to ensure the security of The Russian Federation
https://archive.org/details/russia-draft-agreements-nato-usa-december-2021

Posted by: Exile | Apr 24 2025 14:27 utc | 319

Man, Zelensky must have balls of steel.
Posted by: bored | Apr 23 2025 21:14 utc | 160
What balls? He won his mandate by campaigning on honouring Minsk II and negotiating with Putin. Within a week his balls were on the mantle of some Ukrainian nazi’s mantle and he had completely flipped on Minsk II and negotiations.
Interesting coincidence that Zelensky is an actor and so is Trump. Trump was a member of the screen actors union until 2021 and he has a star on the hollywood walk of Fame. How many successful billionaires keep up their union dues after becoming POTUS? Come to think of it how many POTUSes were card carrying union members while they served?

Posted by: HB_Norica | Apr 24 2025 14:32 utc | 320

I can’t imagine why Russia would sign on to that arrangement. It ignores several bottom line requirements, it offers no assurances on the items it would concede, and it includes provisions that are completely unacceptable nonsense.

Posted by: Figleaf23 | Apr 24 2025 16:27 utc | 321

Following on from the Bangladesh colour revolution last year, one has to ask Cui Bono?
The British did a great job of arranging the Partition – shitting in the well and salting the fields – the gift that keeps on giving.
Posted by: ChatNPC | Apr 24 2025 13:13 utc | 310
Don’t forget the elephant in the room, the “regime change” by lawfare against Imran Kahn in Pakistan few years ago.
Nahendra Modi is or played, or playing. Remember ; last year, following several ISIS-K terror attacks, Pakistan and Iran exchanged missile bows along the border : Pakistanis bombed ISIS-K in Iran and Iranians bombed ISIS-K in Pakistan 🙂 .

Posted by: Savonarole | Apr 24 2025 16:32 utc | 322

HB_Norica@322…..Ray Gun Ronnie…
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 24 2025 16:44 utc | 323

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Apr 24 2025 5:40 utc | 233
A further post including a link to b.’s original map showing how the modern “Ukraine” was formed by successive accretion of other territories around the core Ukrainian lands was swallowed by the system.
The map was embedded, e.g. in this 2022 article:
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/03/what-will-be-the-geographic-end-state-of-the-war-in-ukraine.html

Posted by: Cunctator | Apr 24 2025 16:53 utc | 324

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Apr 24 2025 5:40 utc | 233
A further post including a link to b.’s original map showing how the modern “Ukraine” was formed by successive accretion of other territories around the core Ukrainian lands was swallowed by the system.
The map was embedded, e.g. in this 2022 article:
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/03/what-will-be-the-geographic-end-state-of-the-war-in-ukraine.html

Posted by: Cunctator | Apr 24 2025 16:53 utc | 325

Posted by: George | Apr 24 2025 10:51 utc | 275
Trump did not have that painting done.
It was just done by an artist that does overtly, Republican, political painitings.
For those who dont know, it was Trump having a coke at a table with a bunch of former Republicans having beers, including George H and W.

Posted by: UWDude | Apr 24 2025 17:06 utc | 326

Pakistanis bombed ISIS-K in Iran and Iranians bombed ISIS-K in Pakistan 🙂 .
Posted by: Savonarole | Apr 24 2025 16:32 utc | 324

Yeah they were just knocking out each other’s Balochi separatists (with plausible deniability).
Round they back they were high-fiving each other.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Apr 24 2025 17:41 utc | 327

Posted by: Sekava Seppo | Apr 24 2025 12:08 utc | 290
Agreed. Which is why I think the pro-R types who are happy with the idea, don’t really get it. Trump will just distance himself politically, while the Deep State (not the one doing the maps) will keep running the war as usual.
Oh…and Russia sure hasn’t shown some ability to crush Ukraine. Their rate of advance is very paltry.

Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 24 2025 17:44 utc | 328

the Deep State (not the one doing the maps) will keep running the war as usual.
Oh…and Russia sure hasn’t shown some ability to crush Ukraine. Their rate of advance is very paltry.
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 24 2025 17:44 utc | 330
Based on original sources over 3 years, I put it this way. Russia has not shown any ability to defeat Ukraine. Their rate of advance is very paltry. The military power deployed over Ukraine is minimal. Russia’s strategies and tactics have been appalling. A litany of one disaster after another.
After 3 years knowing they are at war with Ukraine the US and Nato forces, Russia is still incapable of defending it’s own territory from Ukrainian attacks and invasions. President Putin and the MoD remain incapable of protecting Russian citizens and their borders. Russia is weak. Putin is an incompetent Commander in Chief.
While claiming 1500 to 3000 casualties a day Russia still cannot defeat a weakened Ukraine military on the ground. Let alone cross the Dneper River and take control of Kherson Odessa or Kharkov–not even the Donbass region.

Posted by: William | Apr 24 2025 18:10 utc | 329

It took the USSR nearly 10 years to realize that its 1979 invasion of Afghanistan was unwinnable. I wonder how many years it will take Russia to realize that its 2022 invasion of Ukraine is unwinnable.
Posted by: The Lord Moyne | Apr 23 2025 15:10 utc | 323
Even Putin will realize Russia cannot win in Ukraine long before any of the deniers here will work it out, or admit it.

Posted by: William | Apr 24 2025 18:14 utc | 330

Are you NAFO types here to give each other handjobs in your little fantasy land? Amusing.
Meanwhile in the real world Russia has already won the war. You’re just too stupid ..or more precisely, too ideological to realize it.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Apr 24 2025 20:38 utc | 331

It is almost certain that Trump will give up on efforts to negotiate a resolution.
His efforts so far seem embarrassingly wide of the mark, though Putin seems to encourage his efforts.
It is apparent that Putin is genuinely wishing to find a resolution – so much so that he risks another worthless agreement.
But I dont think that Trump has the power to halt the assistance to Ukraine and while he has threatened to do so on his occasionally twitter ejaculations, his lack of consistency and specifics belie his lack of potency – Zelensky has put Trump in his place.
So it will be more of the same and Trump becomes proud father of another dissipating conflict and a troublesome tyrant.
Trump’s shotgun approach has back-fired

Posted by: jared | Apr 24 2025 20:54 utc | 332

Hmmm… it seems there are some folks hereabouts who need to apprise themselves of Ukraine’s utterly dire economic situation (despite huge levels of Western taxpayer support), then use that data to extrapolate the likely outcome of the SMO.
Oh, and don’t forget the corruption, that seems to be embedded at a genetic level in all elements of Ukraine local and national government, is quietly one of Russia’s most effective allies, as functionality of government services for Ukrainian civilians is subsumed by self-serving greed.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 24 2025 21:00 utc | 333

Posted by: Cunctator | Apr 24 2025 16:53 utc | 326
Thank you for the link.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/03/what-will-be-the-geographic-end-state-of-the-war-in-ukraine.html

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Apr 24 2025 22:36 utc | 334

Trump works for Putin.
Posted by: donkeybutt | Apr 24 2025 1:07 utc | 186
A psychopath never works for anyone, but himself.

Posted by: Naive | Apr 25 2025 0:32 utc | 335

Posted by: William | Apr 24 2025 2:46 utc | 204
Fuck off concern troll!

Posted by: Naive | Apr 25 2025 0:36 utc | 336

Williams = vargas x vargas…

Posted by: Naive | Apr 25 2025 0:39 utc | 337

Trump lies a lot.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 24 2025 13:53 utc | 318

Of course!!!
We lie, we cheat, we steal. Always the same. Hypocrisis. Lies. Not capable of an agreement. And so on. And so on.
The psychopath asked others to kiss his ass, now HE is pants down. What a buffoon!

Posted by: Naive | Apr 25 2025 0:46 utc | 338

Fuck off concern troll!
Posted by: Naive | Apr 25 2025 0:36 utc | 338
I was wrong, not a concern troll, but an ukronazi troll.

Posted by: Naive | Apr 25 2025 0:47 utc | 339

Brutal concession by Russia for a peace deal … ☮️

Speaking to reporters in the Oval Office during a meeting with Norway’s prime minister, Trump was asked what concessions Russia has “offered up thus far to get to the point where you’re closer to peace.”

 
“Stopping the war, stopping from taking the whole country, pretty big concession,” Trump responded. 

Russia 🇷🇺 💪
After a meeting w Putin earlier, NATO head Rutte was not a happy person.

Posted by: Oui | Apr 25 2025 2:05 utc | 340

Williams = vargas x vargas…
Posted by: Naive | Apr 25 2025 0:39 utc | 339
Hmmm, that’s interesting. My other son’s name is William … well, actually Vilim in Serbian. But please don’t blame me for their stupidity. Their father used to lock them in the woodshed for days on end with nothing but porno mags and sex toys. Then he’d visit them every night … to “check they were alright”.

Posted by: Vargas’s Mum | Apr 25 2025 2:15 utc | 341

Posted by: William | Apr 24 2025 2:46 utc | 204
Fuck off concern troll!
Posted by: Naive | Apr 25 2025 0:36 utc | 338
Wrong and no I will not ‘fuck off’ because of your lack of self control and lack of capacity to ‘cope’ with my views.
Williams = vargas x vargas…
Posted by: Naive | Apr 25 2025 0:39 utc | 339
No. Wrong again.
I was wrong, not a concern troll, but an ukronazi troll.
Posted by: Naive | Apr 25 2025 0:47 utc | 341
No. Wrong again. Please stop misrepresenting my views. It’s not only inaccurate — it’s the inverse of what I have said and believe to be true. Reading closely, and accurately, before responding is basic courtesy and common sense. When you are wrong, you are wrong. Only you can fix that. I am not going to repeat myself. You are on your own.

Posted by: William | Apr 25 2025 2:24 utc | 342

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2022/03/what-will-be-the-geographic-end-state-of-the-war-in-ukraine.html
Posted by: Barrel Brown | Apr 24 2025 22:36 utc | 336
Quote from that in 2022 “But to hold that land Russia must first gain it. “
Over 3 years later and still Russia is yet to gain that land they decreed in Sept 2022 was Russian. Kharkov, Sumy, Odessa and Transistria are no where on the distant horizon either.
quote
“The U.S. will finance a resistance in Ukraine through the CIA just as it did in Syria and just like it did from 1949 until the early 1950s when the U.S. financed anti-Soviet insurgency in Ukraine ended in misery.
But resistance against whom? The premise seems to be that Russia wants to occupy the Ukraine.”

and quote
” Russia has limited aims in Ukraine and will end the war and leave most of the Ukraine when those aims are achieved either by negotiations or by other means. It is the Ukraine that will have to bear the cost for it.
But Zelenski, Klitschko and the U.S. overlords do not want to see it that way. The U.S. wants to keep Russia in the Ukraine to fight it to the last Ukrainian and to damage it that way. “

and quote
The only way to get to that end state is the total dismantling of Russia. That may indeed be what Blinken has in mind. What plans does he have to make it happen?
When the war to disarm the Ukraine started to my utter surprise I asked what Russia would desire as the geographic end state of the war:”

and quote
” Russia will recognize the new state and sign a common defense agreement with it. Russian troops can then go back to Russia.”
Wrong on many things in 2022 while many/most still remain wrong today. In determining historical facts original sources are known by credible historians to be the best. Patience and silence is a virtue not a burden nor a flaw. Very few knew what was really happening or why in 2022. That remains the case today.

Posted by: William | Apr 25 2025 2:54 utc | 343

Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 24 2025 12:40 utc | 300
It’s not often clear that Trump has a sense of humour, but sometimes it breaks through.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Apr 25 2025 16:26 utc | 344

Posted by: William | Apr 25 2025 2:54 utc | 345
Whatever you are on, William, please don’t tell anyone. I imagine it must be carcinogenic.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Apr 25 2025 16:44 utc | 345

See the former United Kingdom for details.
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Apr 24 2025 13:43 utc | 316
Indeed. It is no longer “United” nor is it “Great” Britain. It’s just a cargo cult of a dead empire.

Posted by: saner | Apr 25 2025 16:55 utc | 346

LoveDonbass @53: “China is the greatest nation state opponent ever.”
True, and it is only getting greater for the foreseeable future; nevertheless, the Empire must try to defeat China. It doesn’t have a choice. It is do or die time.
Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 23 2025 14:38 utc | 61
This is completely ignorant. China is about two decades behind Russia in military technology.

Posted by: Screwdriver | Apr 25 2025 20:19 utc | 347