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April 23, 2025
Setback For U.S. ‘Ceasefire’ Deal In Ukraine

Secretary of State Marko Rubio, presidential envoy Steve Witkoff, several foreign ministers from Europe and the Ukrainian President Zelenski were supposed to meet in London today.

The Trump administration had planned this to be a final meeting over a ceasefire in Ukraine. A U.S. proposal for the ceasefire were to be discussed and accepted.

But Zelenski bailed out and the proposed meeting fell apart. According to the Independent Zelenski had feared to be "ambushed":

Actor turned statesman Volodymyr Zelensky may have only ever played a soldier, but as a war time leader he knows an ambush when he sees one.

Having been trapped in the Oval Office and eviscerated by Donald Trump and JD Vance, he has avoided an enfilade from a crack team of American diplomats in the London kill zone by not turning up at all.

Tipped off that his intended target was not going to wander into his sights, the US team leader, secretary of state Marco Rubio, called off the operation altogether and stayed in Washington along with Steve Witkoff, Trump’s envoy to Vladimir Putin.

Keith Kellog, Trump’s envoy to Ukraine, who was already in London, has been left to observe peering through the privet while foreign secretary David Lammy squires the Ukrainian foreign minister for much downgraded “talks”.

At least the British hosts were not saddled with what could have been an historic mess in which Zelensky was presented with a US-Russian ultimatum and then painted as a rejectionist war monger when he said “nemaye” (no).

Other media are vague about the reasons to downgrade the talks. There is generally no common line in the media reporting of the issue. Axios claims that Ukraine rejected to negotiate a longer term ceasefire and instead only offered a shorter term:

A U.S. official involved in the discussions said Rubio and Witkoff worked together "to develop a framework to get us closer to reaching an end to the war."

  • However, the official said that over the last 24 hours there had been indications from the Ukrainians that they wanted to discuss a 30-day ceasefire during Wednesday's meetings in London rather than Trump's peace plan framework.
  • "The decision was made for the secretary to not travel to London. Instead, the U.S. delegation will continue to engage in conversations with U.K. and Ukrainian counterparts," the official said.

The U.S. ceasefire plan includes several points which either the Ukrainians, the Europeans or the Russians were certain to reject.

The Telegraph seems to have the most complete list of its points:

A source with knowledge of the plan’s contents said that its points one and two cover an immediate ceasefire and direct talks between Ukraine and Russia, which Mr Zelensky has already accepted in principle.

Point three requires Ukraine to refrain from seeking membership of Nato, though the country would still be free to join the EU.

European countries could deploy an assurance force to deter Putin from invading again, but The Telegraph understands that the plan does not commit the US to guarantee the security of any such deployment.

Point four covers territory, with America offering de jure recognition of Russian sovereignty over Crimea, the region of Ukraine which Putin illegally annexed in 2014.

As well as some territory switching hands to Ukraine, the nuclear power station at Zaporizhzhia, the largest in Ukraine and currently held by Russian forces, would be transferred to American control.

Under point six, Ukraine would sign the minerals deal allowing US companies access to the country’s natural resources.

Point seven raises the possibility of a new relationship between America and Russia, saying that all US sanctions would be lifted and the two countries could begin to co-operate on energy.

Zelenski does not want to concede any territory. He also does not want to sign the mineral deal which would eliminate all sovereign decisions abut Ukraine's resources. A longer war, during which billions of dollars and Euros keep flowing, is the best deal for him.

At least some Europeans still want to 'win' against Russia. They reject any lifting of sanctions. They want to insert 'peacekeepers' into Ukraine but only with U.S. backing.

Russia wants a bigger deal, not just a ceasefire in Ukraine, but a new European security architecture.

Claims by the Financial Times that Russia is willing to stop the war and to give up on its larger aims of demilitarizing and denazification of Ukraine have been rejected by Moscow. Russia will also not give up control of the nuclear power station in Zaporizhzhia.

The U.S. acceptance of Crimea as Russian territory is an interesting point but likely based on an ulterior motive. It would lift sanctions on Crimea and allow U.S. companies to take part in the exploitation of natural gas fields around it.

There is little the U.S. can do for now to press for a compromise. The best and most likely move is for Trump to wash his hands over Ukraine and walk away.

This would fit the larger plan of leaving the struggle with Russia to the Europeans while the U.S. will concentrate its forces in Asia for a potential conflict with China.

Comments

Re: Europe, a few European countries are creating defense agreements whether both parties are in NATO or not.
NATO may actually fold because the Euros will want to skim the cash register, and that becomes trickier if they have to buy American and have the Americans looking over their shoulders.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 23 2025 17:18 utc | 101

Posted by: wagelaborer | Apr 23 2025 17:16 utc | 100
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The West has been trying to seize Crimea for a long time.
France and Britain have had designs on it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_War

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 23 2025 17:20 utc | 102

Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 23 2025 14:07 utc | 51
The sense of it is that it will keep the cost of energy low to the USA governed America.. it will make Americans a profit from Russian oil and gas at the expense of the warlord Europeans <=because the Europeans by rule of sanction refuse to purchase Russian oil and gas. It might give Russia access to the European market sufficient to cause Russia to give an assist-ive response in the event of engagement with China or Iran and most of all it will keep full the US strategic reserve. and it will keep a cooperative mindset between Russia and the USA. I think just the fact that such a deal is being negotiated will bring many in Europe to their senses. and really I don't disagree with what you said.. thanks for the response..

Posted by: snake | Apr 23 2025 17:22 utc | 103

Posted by: ld | Apr 23 2025 17:14 utc | 99
sorry Link to Kit Klarenberg interview on Ukraine/Trump assassination link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQiJ_a6ZhFI

Posted by: ld | Apr 23 2025 17:30 utc | 104

Kit Klarenburg: “Did Ukrainian Intel Attempt Trump Assassination?”
https://www.kitklarenberg.com/p/did-ukrainian-intel-attempt-trump
There were numbers of powerful people and groups with means and motives to kill JFK, which is why it has been so hard to pinpoint those responsible (if any beside Oswald) for his assassination.
Cutting the flow of arms to Ukraine will only stiffen the resolve of the countless powerful people who so are heavily invested in the war.
Zelensky may know something, hence his chutzpah.

Posted by: JohnH | Apr 23 2025 17:32 utc | 105

Posted by: JohnH | Apr 23 2025 16:39 utc | 90
> The question is: what gives Zelensky the chutzpah to defy the US?
Well I finally looked up what that funny word ‘chutzpah’ means. So it means audacity, impudence.
Is there anything else that chutzpah conveys not covered in those English equivalents?

Posted by: hopehely | Apr 23 2025 17:33 utc | 106

Seems like everyone gets it here: Trump should drop the doomed Ukronazis like a hot potato with zero economic support and leave it to the billy badasses of Europe. Denounce the whole disaster as Biden’s insane war and move the fuck on.
Is the zio’s useful retard smart or bold enough to do it? Doubtful, but who knows? He’s certainly capable of withstanding and even benefiting from deep state Dem hate campaigns.
Peace to the good people of the bar!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 23 2025 17:35 utc | 107

3 years. LOL
Ukraine is already on life support.
Once the ground hardens, I expect things to go too fast for NATO to influence.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 23 2025 16:31 utc | 88
Maybe he can fight 3 years IF Europe throws everything into Ukraine AND. It remains a local based SMO
NATO troops, retreating as needed (not AFU fighting every inch) would probably be good for 3 years before troops cleared everything to the polish border (and nato Europe ran out of men and weapons).
Then what? Why stop there? The “country” would be lost but also everything else. Yes there is nuclear deterrence and the us might impose a limit , maybe the iron courts in would fall back where it stood, give or take some countries . Maybe not. When Russia had to fight it went to Vilnius mid 17th century , Paris early 19th and Berlin mid 20th.
Can Ukraine fight 3 years? Yes, but there are nuances…

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 23 2025 17:35 utc | 108

Well it’s time for the Euros to jump. They’re keen but they really want Uncle Shlomo to hold their hand on the way down. My guess is that its been too long in the planning for them to back out now.
I’m interested to see how my bovine fellow countrymen will react when the regime starts to funnel British lads into this war. Their performance in 2020-1 suggests they’ll go along with it happily enough

Posted by: TheNorthernChef | Apr 23 2025 17:40 utc | 109

“There is little the U.S. can do for now to press for a compromise. The best and most likely move is for Trump to wash his hands over Ukraine and walk away.”
I believe this was the intent from the beginning. Trump needed an excuse to throw Ukraine under the proverbial Russian bus to appease the hawks in his party. Now he has it. The US will dump this hot mess on Europe and continue rapprochement with Russia.

Posted by: anonymous | Apr 23 2025 17:43 utc | 110

Utterly sickening and embarrassing is this point: “The nuclear power station at Zaporizhzhia, the largest in Ukraine and currently held by Russian forces, would be transferred to American control.”
“Under point six, Ukraine would sign the minerals deal allowing US companies access to the country’s natural resources.”
To #12 re: Ukraine, you’ve been misinformed. Ukraine chose to surrender its “sovereignty” to US taxpayers 35 years ago when it agreed to be a US colony, specifically a Soros colony, meaning billions of enslaved US taxpayer dollars are the only reason a single person remains alive there today. Eurasia Daily in 2017 said “If actually a sovereign state, Ukraine would have refused to receive Biden. But it seems that for the Kiev regime friendly backslappings by the U.S. boss are more important than their country’s national interests.“ Biden’s last trip to “U.S.-controlled aboriginal regime,” Ukraine, 1/6/2017 Then in 2000s you allowed massive US election interference in via US and Soros groups, forcing 3 elections in 2004 just to get one the US liked. Soros #1 choise was flown to DC for grooming. Then you had violent overthrow of Ukr’s gov. in 2014 when Nuland chose the new Ukr PM “Yats is the guy,” and the Pope agreed, giving Yatsenuk a meeting at the Vatican. #12 says, “I’ve long thought that the issues were more on the UKR side than the RUS one.” Ukr doesn’t have a “side.” “Bottom line is that while this war is “existential” [No, it’s not. Ukr is a US colony] for both sides (something Trump needs to realize), it is “more existential” for the UKR.” As to Trump he “realizes” Ukraine is US colony bordering Russia, so Don kindly sent shipment of javelin weapons to Ukra. to kill Russians.

Posted by: susan mullen | Apr 23 2025 17:47 utc | 111

Ray McGovern & John Helmer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgG4ZmTZQww
“Is this how WWIII starts?”
(‘The war will continue until Ukraine is defeated.’)

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 23 2025 17:50 utc | 112

Posted by: hopehely | Apr 23 2025 17:33 utc | 106
“Is there anything else that chutzpah conveys not covered in those English equivalents?”
Extracting the urine?

Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 23 2025 17:52 utc | 113

Wonderful day for Ukraine, only losing 4.6 kmsq. One fifth of the per day, NOV2024 pace of loss, and keeping a string of losses for over two years now.
At this rate, they will have to lose two million more men before they finally lose.
victory is just around the corner for Ukraine.

Posted by: UWDude | Apr 23 2025 18:02 utc | 114

JD Vance said if there’s no deal US will walk away from Ukraine. The British must be freaking out so they are increasing belligerence toward Russia behind their vassals backs and in Ukraine, potentially false flags incoming.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 23 2025 18:13 utc | 115

Can Ukraine fight 3 years? Yes, but there are nuances…
Posted by: Newbie | Apr 23 2025 17:35 utc | 108
Given Europe throws everything they have behind the delusional neo Nazis of Ukraine, what happens to Europe internally? Can it last three wore years like this? Open question.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 23 2025 18:14 utc | 116

the west cant even get their own goals for a peace deal articulated, they cant even get a full meeting anymore…
…but doomers tell us Russia is begging for peace and not to be surprised when he takes what he can get.
*******
three years sounds about right. Russians were in Kiev three years ago.

Posted by: UWDude | Apr 23 2025 18:17 utc | 117

Wonderful day for Ukraine, only losing 4.6 kmsq. One fifth of the per day, NOV2024 pace of loss, and keeping a string of losses for over two years now.
At this rate, they will have to lose two million more men before they finally lose.
victory is just around the corner for Ukraine.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 23 2025 18:02 utc | 114
And some more nuances on the situation by trump
https://tass.com/world/1948417

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 23 2025 18:19 utc | 118

Posted by: UWDude | Apr 23 2025 18:17 utc | 117
Nato was fully invested in Ukraine since 2014, also admitted by Stoltenberg. The SMO began with serious deficits for Russian side, Ukraine’s army outnumbering on total around 4:1. Despite this, RUAF managed to mess up AFU deployments, force transfer delays, confusion, and took the Crimea land bridge and Mariupol. It was only around November 2022 RUAF started catching up in strength, heavily accelerating over AFU, aided by Bakhmut grinder and the 2023 AFU counter-attack disaster.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 23 2025 18:21 utc | 119

Something heavily burning in Odessa.
https://x.com/ug_chelsea/status/1915106342575939591

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 23 2025 18:24 utc | 120

“Zelenski does not want to concede any territory. He also does not want to sign the mineral deal which would eliminate all sovereign decisions abut Ukraine’s resources.”

+++++
Reconcile this to the deal the Z-monster already struck with the Limeys. Z-Monster probably has orders to tell the Trumpster to take up all claims with London.

Posted by: Cato the Uncensored | Apr 23 2025 18:27 utc | 121

Unsure if Zelensky wanted this or that. Actor Zelensky through his director (or pimp) Yermak takes his queue from the British after team Trump basically bailed on the project (the whole scolding show a month ago). Of course, only a lull to focus on Iran and China.
In all likelihood it are the Brits and the EU kakistocracy that rejected the peace deal. They invested massively in this war yet are left out broke and empty handed as the US reaps those spoils the Russians are willing to concede.
The US political class can probably do little, true, however the military and intelligence class could stop providing weapons and ISTAR and this war would be over in days.

Posted by: xor | Apr 23 2025 18:33 utc | 122

U.S. ownership of the Zapo nuke plant is as ridiculous as the U.S. owning or buying the Nordstream pipeline. Will the U.S. offer scrap metal prices for that pipeline ?

Posted by: ScreamingMonk | Apr 23 2025 18:39 utc | 123

Looking at Germán election results, one can easily distinguish former East and West Germany. This clearly shows the result of 80 years of American indoctrination.
And after 80 years of squeezing the German out of the Germans, the US now requires Germany to re-arm, and build a strong army. Youngsters are asked to volunteer. Families are instructed to stock food. Internet, tv, radio: all tell us to prepare for war with Russia.
We are back where it all begun.

Posted by: Passerby | Apr 23 2025 18:44 utc | 124

Is the zio’s useful retard smart or bold enough to do it? Doubtful, but who knows?
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 23 2025 17:35 utc | 107
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🙂
It’s mostly out of his control.
Russia has won in Ukraine.
The US has no chance against China.
Iran has Russia and China as strategic allies.
Trump is doubling down on Israel which is showcasing the worst of US attributes to the world.

Posted by: financial matters | Apr 23 2025 18:44 utc | 125

Enacting freewill is a contradiction when two options are misplaced even though a true intent has been asserted through a final solution.

Posted by: pepe | Apr 23 2025 18:46 utc | 126

Ray McGovern says Trump would like to go to the 80th WW2 victory anniversary in Moscow. Trump could see himself as Churchill. That would be the ultimate pissing on Euro-retards.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 23 2025 18:48 utc | 127

Well, the terms are now out there. Russia keeps all the clay, and the US and Russia make nice. It is done.
Z rejects this, as it means he’s led the ukies to disaster. So the nazis will liquidate him and take the deal.
The eurocucks may be able to buy them and cash-in, but Russia will throttle their cashflow as they can. Ukie will experience the Morgenthau Plan for real. The neighbors will grab what clay they claim historically. The kids will emigrate. Ukie will be the end of the decades long globalist push east.

Posted by: seer | Apr 23 2025 18:48 utc | 128

it would be poetic justice if “the mother of all proxies” becomes the grave for the west.
i wont shed a single tear.
my children will NOT end up as their cannonfodder. ursula and starmer can go themself if they stop hiding behind others.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 23 2025 18:57 utc | 129

Posted by: seer | Apr 23 2025 18:48 utc | 128
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Quite reliably, whatever the West reports about Russia on the SMO negotiations is refuted by Peskov within a day.
Until something is done, nothing is done.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 23 2025 18:58 utc | 130

In 2015, the Minsk 1-2 Agreements were as good an outcome as Ukraine could expect. Ukraine and their backers sabotaged them.
In April 2022, The Istanbul Peace Agreements were as good an outcome as Ukraine could expect. Ukraine and their backers rejected them.
In April 2025, the US parameters for peace were as good an outcome as Ukraine could expect. Ukraine has refused to discuss them.
Future Ukrainian Presidential Candidate Arestovych explains why these terms are as good as Ukraine can expect…
https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/1914775692132209104

Posted by: Fool Me Twice | Apr 23 2025 19:01 utc | 131

Quoted by Fool Me Twice @131: “Future Ukrainian Presidential Candidate Arestovych explains why these terms are as good as Ukraine can expect…”
As I’ve been saying, Trump isn’t trying to sell the Ukraine out. He’s trying to get the Ukraine the best deal he can, but they’re too stupid to realize it.

Posted by: William Gruff | Apr 23 2025 19:07 utc | 132

Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 23 2025 18:57 utc | 129
Mine won’t either. Recruitment numbers are plummeting and many are leaving the armed services because the threat is real. Although it doesn’t look like things are going to kick off I expect a draft if they do and have plans to send them elsewhere.

Posted by: anonymous | Apr 23 2025 19:10 utc | 133

I think that America will nuke if things get bad enough for the Empire in armed conflict.
And then we’re off to the races.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 23 2025 17:12 utc | 98
You must be joking. Watching the French and Germans get slaughtered would be the kind of advertising the American MIC could only dream about. Which means even tighter terms for the European survivors to host American forces. Hungary, Slovakia, and Serbia breaking away from the EU would be an advantage for American nationalism and a brick in the face for globalism. Meanwhile, VVP has no desire to truly become Putler, but Poland, Finland, and Romania will be arming up. He may not have a choice but to endure a much wider war if Russia can’t shut down the European powers.
None of that is a situation where the United States is remotely tempted to use their nukes. A new war in Korea might be, but Xi Jingping definitely doesn’t want Asia ganging up against China.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Apr 23 2025 19:13 utc | 134

not just about aid, but about intel. And Trump already vacillated on that once. He could cut that immediately. Why didn’t he leave it cut off until he got Z to the table, originally!?
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 23 2025 13:09 utc | 19
Because of the successful Kursk pipeline operation. It was more effective due to a lack of US supplied ISR.
The Trump admin could withhold intel for a month, and it would go badly for UKrain. What is the use of weapons and soldiers if they have no eyes?
The EU will grudgingly follow the US lead, just like the initial Biden US push for war, self harm sanctions, Nordstream demolition…
Oh, btw another day another horrible massacre of poor UKrain soldiers and loss of equipment. Is the KIA ratio 10-1 or 20-1? Or higher?
Will we see another wave of drone/missiles on the energy grid? Will the Z-girls denial of negotiations finally give the Russ moral cover to finish off the energy grid? It is definitely a Russ plan.
The ZNPP being owned by the US is imo a negotiation tactic to make sure rump UKrain gets electricity from the Russians, which they will agree to do. Why not? The grid exists to supply UKrain, and it will be income and insurance that the plant stays safe from UKrain gorillas.

Posted by: jopalolive | Apr 23 2025 19:16 utc | 135

Sir Richard Sheriff ex senior army UK in Centcom up to from March 2011 to March 2014 he served as Deputy Supreme Allied Commander Europe. (significant retirement date could not handle the Maidan Crimea situation ??????) on channel 4tv..situation UK and Europe requires re -militarising asap as much as possible at whatever cost to support Ukraine and hold things as they are at worst to prevent future war with from with Russia…no trust in USA who previously in Munich Security Conference years ago said it would not guarantee EU security……well ……if the UK and USA Kursk thingy did not work, cannot imagine anything else working unless EU and UK actually start www3 behind the Russian contact line

Posted by: Jo | Apr 23 2025 19:21 utc | 136

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Until something is done, nothing is done.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 23 2025 18:58 utc | 130
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True, but Trump’s stating Russia owns the clay, and the US and Russia will be good buds now. That’s movement. Russia would believe nothing, but everybody else is now hearing this as policy, for the first time. Unless they shoot straighter at Trump next time, that stuff is done. It gets worse for ukie from here.

Posted by: seer | Apr 23 2025 19:31 utc | 137

Because of the successful Kursk pipeline operation. It was more effective due to a lack of US supplied ISR.
Posted by: jopalolive | Apr 23 2025 19:16 utc | 135
BS, the intel never stopped, the US might have stoppped sharing it with the Ukraine directly, but sharing it with the UK at the same time. It made no difference on the russian operation in Kursk, that was planned way before or the course of the SMO.

Posted by: 5thcolumn | Apr 23 2025 19:36 utc | 138

You must be joking.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Apr 23 2025 19:13 utc | 134
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I wish I were. America is agreement incapable and psychopathic.
You’re appealing to profit, but the issue is that America is on the brink of its economic and political systems imploding, after which profit-making will never be the same.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 23 2025 19:46 utc | 139

BS, the intel never stopped, the US might have stoppped sharing it with the Ukraine directly, but sharing it with the UK at the same time. It made no difference on the russian operation in Kursk, that was planned way before or the course of the SMO.
Posted by: 5thcolumn | Apr 23 2025 19:36 utc | 138
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💯
Everyone in 5-eyes can access US resources. That is the point of 5-eyes.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 23 2025 19:48 utc | 140

Not to much talk about the Trump Rare Minerals Deal.
Is there a possibility that after Britain signed that secret 100 year defence deal with Ukraine, Trump was being told by the City Of London/Wall Street bankers that already has split the loot between them, to keep his fingers off Ukraine.
https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/1913313970368172539?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1913313970368172539%7Ctwgr%5Ee9379d97da571de2c63eaaeaa73df22480f2d0f0%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdisqus.com%2Fembed%2Fcomments%2F%3Fbase%3Ddefaultf%3Dhttpsmoothiex12blogspotcomt_u%3Dhttp3A2F2Fsmoothiex12.blogspot.com2F20252F042Fand-this-is-news.htmlt_d%3DReminiscence20of20the20Future…203A20And20This20Is20News20…t_t%3DReminiscence20of20the20Future…203A20And20This20Is20News20…s_o%3Ddescversion%3D824319c6871c91d96d440dca992aaf88

Posted by: Paul from Norway | Apr 23 2025 19:49 utc | 141

hopehely (106)–audacity & impudence is what I intended to mean with my choice of the word chutzpah. Insolence is also a synonym.
The word chutzpah had its origin in Hebrew. Sometimes I think Zelensky’s role model is Netanyahu, who revels in pushing Goliath (the US) around.

Posted by: JohnH | Apr 23 2025 19:50 utc | 142

French Veterans Demand Disclosure on Ukraine Involvement
https://www.rt.com/news/616155-french-troops-ukraine-deployment/
“A group of retired officers, including over two dozen generals, has urged Parliament to debate troop presence and lethal aid for Kiev.
The authors argued that France’s military involvement in Ukraine without a parliamentary mandate and arms deliveries without public debate, violate the French Constitution and Criminal Code.
‘The lack of regular parliamentary ratification raises the question of the legality of the supply of weapons from the French army reserves to Ukriane for use against Russia, with which our country is not at war,’ the letter states.
Commenting on the letter, the head of the Place d’Armes association Jean Pierre Fabre-Bernadac, told Sud Radio it reflects heightened public concern about the country’s involvement in Ukraine.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 23 2025 19:59 utc | 143

I already knew that the yankees are autist, narcissist, stupid, thieves, liars, assassins, etc., but the point to which it is displayed here is beyond any preconceived idea.

Posted by: Naive | Apr 23 2025 20:02 utc | 144

I have been expecting for a long time that the Ukrainian’s who are being forcefully recruited in the streets by their leaders, would when they have access to weapons would make sure to kill their officers. But I havent heard anything like that only that they sometimes fled from the front. I clearly havent got any understanding of people who are being expected to sacrifice their lifes in a totally hopeless struggle. I would expect them to intensively hate those who are immediately responsible. But Ukrainians seem to be very patient I must say. Even though the regime is evil the people have something admireable about them I have to admit.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Apr 23 2025 20:02 utc | 145

i just cant anymore. saw the “trailer” for an interview of zjsieljenskyji by ben shapiro.
“russias invasion of the civilized world”
you just cant make this shit up. they sniff their own sharts at this point.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 23 2025 20:11 utc | 146

Trump’s ’last peace bid’ goes down badly in Ukraine: ’We are prepared to negotiate, not to surrender’
Perhaps Trump should have spoken Ukrainian ..
Trump: “У вас немає карток.”
Zelenskyy: “Ми не граємо в карти.”

ZELENSKIY SAYS UKRAINE INSISTS ON AN IMMEDIATE, FULL AND UNCONDITIONAL CEASEFIRE | CGTN Africa (@cgtnafrica) |

Volodymyr in hotspot … had to agree Crimea stays w Russia … a death sentence for Zelenskyy had he agreed …
Searching for European allies to perpetuate the war until Russia is defeated and total capitulation. I coined the expression:
NATO Operation Barbarossa In Slow Motion | 4 March 2024 |

Posted by: Oui | Apr 23 2025 20:11 utc | 147

Utterly sickening and embarrassing is this point: “The nuclear power station at Zaporizhzhia, the largest in Ukraine and currently held by Russian forces, would be transferred to American control.”
Posted by: susan mullen | Apr 23 2025 17:47 utc | 111

It is not sickening. It is very funny. For it shows that the yankees still did not understand who is the master and that all the territory of Zaporozhie is today inside Russia. If it is the largest in Russia, I do not know.
In exchange Russia should ask to transfer the control of Alaska to Russia. For fun. Of course.
The yankees are today lead by the worst “pieds nickelés”. Stupid and incompetent crooks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Pieds_Nickel%C3%A9s

Posted by: Naive | Apr 23 2025 20:12 utc | 148

Searching for European allies to perpetuate the war until Russia is defeated and total capitulation. I coined the expression:
NATO Operation Barbarossa In Slow Motion | 4 March 2024 |
Posted by: Oui | Apr 23 2025 20:11 utc | 147

Everyone knows how Operation Barbarossa ended. The western european countries are lead by cowards. Let’s see thousand of coffins of their citizens coming back home and their reign will be quickly terminated. They are cowards, their people are cowards. Remember also what happened after Germany invaded Poland in 1939. They are cowards from fathers to sons.

Posted by: Naive | Apr 23 2025 20:17 utc | 149

Hard to be sure why because there are a number of possibilities, but Zelensky wants to keep the war going. That’s all. Been that way for a while.

Posted by: Jmaas | Apr 23 2025 20:19 utc | 150

Barflies I present the next president of the RF 👏👏👏
‘Russians With Attitude
@RWApodcast
2h
Peskov just now: Ukraine must withdraw troops from all four regions — Lugansk, Donetsk, Zapozhye, and Kherson oblasts — for the war to end.
“If Kiev pulls out now, the conflict ends instantly”
Apr 23, 2025 · 5:38 PM UTC ‘

Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 23 2025 20:24 utc | 151

In exchange Russia should ask to transfer the control of Alaska to Russia. For fun. Of course.
Posted by: Naive | Apr 23 2025 20:12 utc | 148
I know you’re joking, but there is a large segment of Alaskans that would not object to being part of Russia. Win win?

Posted by: anonymous | Apr 23 2025 20:31 utc | 152

Or her?
‘DD Geopolitics
@DD_Geopolitics
8h
🇷🇺 Russia will never participate in negotiations that involve the idea of deploying European troops in Ukraine, stated Valentina Matviyenko, Head of the Russian Federation Council.
Apr 23, 2025 · 12:04 PM UTC ‘

Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 23 2025 20:42 utc | 153

“Actor turned statesman Volodymyr Zelensky may have only ever played a soldier, but as a war time leader he knows an ambush when he sees one.”
He might perceive an ambush for himself but he has let his own men get caught in cauldrons and encirclements over and over again and is still doing it on an almost daily basis. At the same time Russia has proved itself to be a grand master of such tactics. Of course like Trump it is always someone else’s fault even though he rarely listens to his generals in command and overrides their advice.
Zelensky is only interested in his own personal survival and while countless others have died (including many Russians) due to his emotional and stupid coke driven decisions, he pockets billions in stolen aid and is always preparing for own his safe exit when the time comes. If Russia and Putin are winning it is only because they have a clear plan they have never deviated from and function objectively never falling into the emotion trap. Sun Tzu would be highly impressed.

Posted by: George | Apr 23 2025 20:42 utc | 154

The widespread Russophobia in Europe is widely accepted to be a legacy from those who had bad personal or family experiences as a result of the authoritarian depredations at the hands of the former USSR.
A good example of this can be seen on one of the recent Duran episodes which featured Christine Anderson, a German MEP, who ascribed her own negative feelings towards the Russian Government, (not people), to be due to family suffering at the hands of the USSR.
What she failed to appreciate, (along with millions of others), is that Ukraine was an integral part of the USSR and has to be tarred with the same brush.
What is more, whilst Russia has thrown off the Soviet mantle, Ukraine has not; Ukraine remains an oppressive, authoritarian, backward, totalitarian state, devoid of human rights and with a contempt for the life and liberty of its citizens.
The irony is that the Russophobics have allied themselves to Ukraine, the inheritors of the USSR’s authoritarian machine, (an inheritance which includes dismal economic failure), whilst regarding as an enemy the Russian State which has evolved into a society that is now more advanced and with more freedoms than the West.

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Apr 23 2025 20:48 utc | 155

Will Zelensky fly the coop soon ? Or will his greed get the better of him, when the music stops, n he ends up without a chair, hanging from a rope ?
How much time is left til then ?

Posted by: Featherless | Apr 23 2025 20:48 utc | 156

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Apr 23 2025 20:48 utc | 155
Excellent post

Posted by: canuck | Apr 23 2025 20:52 utc | 157

I think that America will nuke if things get bad enough for the Empire in armed conflict.
And then we’re off to the races.”
Posted by: LoveDumbass | Apr 23 2025 17:12 utc | 98
What trite, bull shit; are you 11 years old?

Posted by: canuck | Apr 23 2025 20:54 utc | 158

According to the Independent Zelenski had feared to be “ambushed”

Insert mandatory mockery referring to Zelenskyy being paranoid, about an intervention over his addiction to cocaine, here:
“I’m concerned about how your substance use has affected both you and the people around you.”
“Number One: All your soldiers are getting killed or wounded because of decisions you make while high on cocaine.”

Posted by: Babel-17 | Apr 23 2025 20:58 utc | 159

Man, Zelensky must have balls of steel. Fighting Russia while pissing off the Americans and laughing all the way to the bank.

Posted by: bored | Apr 23 2025 21:14 utc | 160

Man, Zelensky must have balls of steel. Fighting Russia while pissing off the Americans and laughing all the way to the bank.
Posted by: bored | Apr 23 2025 21:14 utc | 160
More likely this coke-head is insane.

Posted by: NoName | Apr 23 2025 21:16 utc | 161

This Interview Closed the Book on Zelensky
What a stupid ass … playing out the NATO proxy war started by Joe Biden 2014-2025.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWLPmrDNeis

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Volodymyr Zelenskyy: The 2025 60 Minutes Interview
As Russia’s war with Ukraine continues, President Volodymyr Zelenskyy sits down with Scott Pelley to discuss U.S. support for Ukraine, the war, the Oval Office meeting, and the latest attacks on civilians.
In his first term, President Trump was harassed by the intelligence community with a false narrative of RussiaGate … members of US Congress tried to impeach him twice and failed … Ukraine supported HRC and Democrats in the 2016 election campaign … this UA actor dares to utter the words: the White House falls for the KGB dictator and Russian propaganda … case closed, the book on Ukraine is SHUT. Zelenskyy chose the path of European war on Russia … his people will face an endless struggle and the greatest military power will fall silent on Europe’s security and defense …

Posted by: Oui | Apr 23 2025 21:17 utc | 162

Posted by: bored | Apr 23 2025 21:14 utc | 160
he is just the court jester dancing for the king (his british handlers) out of fear of beeing disposed off.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 23 2025 21:17 utc | 163

I have been expecting for a long time that the Ukrainian’s who are being forcefully recruited in the streets by their leaders, would when they have access to weapons would make sure to kill their officers. But I havent heard anything like that only that they sometimes fled from the front. I clearly havent got any understanding of people who are being expected to sacrifice their lifes in a totally hopeless struggle. I would expect them to intensively hate those who are immediately responsible. But Ukrainians seem to be very patient I must say. Even though the regime is evil the people have something admireable about them I have to admit.
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Apr 23 2025 20:02 utc | 145
I’m going to guess that the soldiers you speak of see those immediately in charge of them as fellow victims of the system, indeed, in some units those NCOs might be totally cynical and yet take the greatest risks, all while looking after as best they can the new recruits*.
The bastards ordering them to make ridiculous suicidal attacks keep themself safely out of harm’s way.
*And yet again I’m reminded of James Coburn’s portrayal of Sergeant Steiner in Sam Peckinpah’s Cross of Iron.
Cross of Iron (Sam Peckinpah, 1977) – Where Iron Crosses Grow
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbChBWpr8N8
Ha! The final words from the credits of the film.
“Do not rejoice in his defeat, you men.
For though the world has stood up and stopped the bastard,
The bitch that bore him is in heat again.”
Bertolt Brecht

Posted by: Babel-17 | Apr 23 2025 21:30 utc | 164

Paraphrasing the old joke from SNL, as delivered by Jane Curtin:
“The United States pulls out of Ukraine, a frustrated Ukraine was not available for comment.”

Posted by: Babel-17 | Apr 23 2025 21:34 utc | 165

Respectfully, I think some of you Don’t Get It in regard to Putin quietly being cleverly manipulative.
If you know that Zelensky is a possible coke head – or at least a dead man walking with regard to NeoNazis pointing a gun at his head (or holding a noose), then You Can Depend On That Situation. It’s easily predictable.
Putin can therefore make modest peace (or ceasefire) proposals FULLY KNOWING that they will be forcefully rejected by Zelensky in some public statement- if he just exercises a bit of patience. And So It Has Been. This aggravates EU elitists because it suggests that Putin is a reasonable guy and Zelensky is a utter disaster that They Are Stuck Defending, Regardless. The amusing thing is that these repellent elitists are stuck defending a person that they would reject instantly in disgust otherwise. Karma’s a bitch, huh?
This globe we call Earth is not run by demigods. It’s commonly run by fools, elected by other fools, at least in Western “democracies”. Meanwhile, China and Russia seem dominated by a sort of political Darwinism in which the weak and stupid fall out of windows or just vanish forever. It’s as if Western leaders are Dodo birds and Russia/China leaders are lean hungry predators cruising the jungle.

Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 23 2025 21:43 utc | 166

This globe we call Earth is not run by demigods. It’s commonly run by fools, elected by other fools, at least in Western “democracies”. Meanwhile, China and Russia seem dominated by a sort of political Darwinism in which the weak and stupid fall out of windows or just vanish forever. It’s as if Western leaders are Dodo birds and Russia/China leaders are lean hungry predators cruising the jungle.
@ Eighthman | Apr 23 2025 21:43 utc | 166

Powerful imagery of Darwinian political defenestration, from you.
I can grok some essentials of US American idiocy: that our whole identity, our national myth subsists on cotton-candy narratives to obscure our well-known genocidal origins and destiny. The US American perpetual war-machine always requires at least one great enemy to believe in, and it’s usually been Russia (or else China — whatever!) In a way, it’s nothing personal: any enemy would do.
Europe, on the other hand, puzzles me profoundly. Their enthusiasm for eternal warfare (or that of their so-called leaders) appears to originate from a hatred for Russia which is ineradicable, the tap-roots go down so deep. I don’t get it: Why does Europe hate Russia so obsessively?

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 23 2025 22:02 utc | 167

Why does Europe hate Russia so obsessively?
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 23 2025 22:02 utc | 167
my wife (bless her ignorance) always says its envy. russia has all that land, lives peacfully with all their different ethnicities, and makes what it needs.
while we in europe have no lands, are constantly in conflict with each others, and need stuff from other nations because we can only make half of what we need.
she may have a point on that envy part with regards to land. that polish dunce sikorsky was complaining yesterday that russia has a lot of land.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 23 2025 22:16 utc | 168

Putin can therefore make modest peace (or ceasefire) proposals FULLY KNOWING that they will be forcefully rejected by Zelensky in some public statement- if he just exercises a bit of patience. And So It Has Been. This aggravates EU elitists because it suggests that Putin is a reasonable guy and Zelensky is a utter disaster that They Are Stuck Defending, Regardless.
Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 23 2025 21:43 utc | 166
Thank you! It’s incredible how resistance media keeps insisting that President Trump is “HUMILIATED/ DONE/ FURIOUS” in the Danny Haifong mode. It’s a mirror image of what we see in corpo media about Putin. Anyways, neither Witkoff nor VVP are going to waste entire afternoons on complete nonsense. Russia can make “reasonable” compromises, then insist on much harsher terms a month from now. It’s a lot better than insisting something is “inadmissible” then having to climb down absolutely inside a week.
https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/1986144/
Please, let Sergei Lavrov retire at some decent interval and rely on new diplomats.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Apr 23 2025 22:35 utc | 169

@166, @169
Zelenski knows that the empire’s plan is to sack the Russian federation.
Zelenski is playing for the empire.
The libelous propaganda against Putin is that effected by Zelensky being the chief proponent of sacking Russia.
However had Zelensky stayed in the fake ceasefire would have been denied by Russia knowing the empire’s plan.
Zelenski could provide the empire a change of tactics

Posted by: paddy | Apr 23 2025 22:42 utc | 170

I don’t get it: Why does Europe hate Russia so obsessively?
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 23 2025 22:02 utc | 167
It’s a little late in the game if this is a real question, but:
1) The EU is dominated entirely by a foreign minority to whom the pogroms are seared into some kind of ancestral memory. They hold ancient grudges and are going to prosecute them.
2) At the Commission level, the EU is staffed by idiot bureaucrats who bet wrong on Russian collapse, and are now facing extinction at Russian hands while America extricates itself from the mess.
3) The continent has been soaking in anti-Russian sentiment since Yalta. Actually, the idea of making Putin more of a historical monster than the communists is risible, but then see point 1. The “oligarchs” of no particular creed or background who fled to Israel are fueling that hatred. The hilarious part is that Germany is indulging in Nazi-era Russophobia at the exact instant Germany’s industrial production depends mightily on outside energy imports. These people don’t have the strategic focus of an Austrian, never mind Bismarck.

Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Apr 23 2025 22:44 utc | 171

“Man, Zelensky must have balls of steel. Fighting Russia while pissing off the Americans and laughing all the way to the bank.”
Posted by: bored | Apr 23 2025 21:14 utc | 160
Actually he is just another megalomaniacal, greedy, and corrupt fool who has demonstrated not one scrap of ethical conduct in anything he does (wasting many lives pointlessly) and most of the time he is high on cocaine as many, many reports suggest. In the the end if he escapes he will likely pay the ultimate price and be eliminated wherever he goes (like what happened to Trotsky or Mussolini), but I think Russia wants to catch him alive and bring him to justice in Russia. Russian intelligence in Ukraine is so good they could eliminate him any time if they wanted with a Kinzhal or another powerful bunker busting missile. One thing he forgot is that many of his countrymen and women are pro-Russian and hate his guts- they would spill the beans on his whereabouts or get him themselves out of vengeance. Zelensky does not have ‘balls of steel’ he is just deluded and caught up in an emotional and desperate bunfight. It is quite clear that in the end his gamble will not pay off as it has always been for Ukraine too.

Posted by: George | Apr 23 2025 22:49 utc | 172

As if it were not bad enough that Russia has to face off against a coalition adversary composed of 32 NATO nations, in support of a rabid junkyard dog of a proxy in Ukraine itself—-but it also must contend w/ the U.S.’s own Deep State as a shadow, but not quite hidden, belligerent.
Having suffered through DJT 1.0, however, gives Russia invaluable insight into the inner workings of the American Experiment. Having suffered, additionally, through the non compos mentis presidency of Collective Biden—-and all the pretense necessary to maintain it—-provides Russia w/ additional strategic awareness.
Strangely, no one in the U.S.’s Regime Media seems to realize how undermining both Russiagate (DJT 1.0) and Collective Biden (non compos mentis executive) were to the U.S.’s reputation/stature for the RoW beyond the West. That the Regime Media in the U.S. and in the West in general fail to factor these realities into events *going forward* reveals the extent to which they still have to put a fig-leaf version of reality out there.

Posted by: steel_pocurpine | Apr 23 2025 22:52 utc | 173

This globe we call Earth is not run by demigods. It’s commonly run by fools, elected by other fools, at least in Western “democracies”. Meanwhile, China and Russia seem dominated by a sort of political Darwinism in which the weak and stupid fall out of windows or just vanish forever. It’s as if Western leaders are Dodo birds and Russia/China leaders are lean hungry predators cruising the jungle.
Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 23 2025 21:43 utc | 166

100%

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 23 2025 22:55 utc | 174

I think it’s rich that the US who waged war on Russia through Ukraine now wants to pretend it’s a neutral broker trying to negotiate an armistice but is unable to do so because of an unruly Ukraine/EU/UK.
Russia will have to denazify and demilitarize Ukraine,period.

Posted by: Frank | Apr 23 2025 22:58 utc | 175

they are currently pounding kiev, allegedly 7-10 iskander hits. some mobile phone capturings show ad missing as usual, and some big fireworks.
guess tomorrow we’ll get some quality european journalism about kindergartens and homes for the elderly beeing hit.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 23 2025 23:03 utc | 176

@Babel-17 @Apr 23 2025 21:30 utc #164
Style points for a Brecht quote.
I hope this finds you well

Posted by: ockham | Apr 23 2025 23:04 utc | 177

Is there anything else that chutzpah conveys not covered in those English equivalents?
Posted by: hopehely | Apr 23 2025 17:33 utc | 106
Yes. It’s a Yiddish word, with all connotations this brings.

Posted by: averros | Apr 23 2025 23:15 utc | 178

So convinced was the U.S. that Sanctions Relief would govern Russia’s interests & concerns that they found a way to offer obscure & vague Sanctions Relief in their Kellogg-authored Peace Plan, confident in the full understanding that Russia would of course immediately start dancing to the U.S.’s tune.
In the early months of the SMO it was obvious that the Economic Sanctions the West hoped would cripple Russia, drive Russia to her knees, had little effect whatsoever. Certainly the Economic Sanctions were not a Weapon of Mass Destruction. Because the Economic Sanctions were Plan A, the West then had to turn rapidly to Plan B.
But there was no Plan B.
Oops, there goes gravity-! Ooops, there goes Rabbity-!
A *stalemate* has continued ever since—-more than three years’s worth and two U.S. presidential administrations—as the U.S.-led West scrambles to come up w/ a Plan B that will drive Russia to her knees.
Offering Sanctions Relief in a proposed Peace Plan has no currency, therefore, because Russia has found in fact that it is more advantageous to have decoupled from the West and its punitive financializations. Doing so has strengthened Russia. Doing so has heroized Russia in the eyes of the RoW, which still may be punished under Economic Sanctions from the West. Doing so has revealed Russia’s bad-assery cred.

Posted by: steel_pocurpine | Apr 23 2025 23:21 utc | 179

It was okay for DJT to say for a couple months that “this war would never have started if I had been president”—but now that DJT *is* in fact president, and now that he has discovered the inherent intractabilities, it is unseemly for DJT to keep repeating this statement.
The U.S. is in a proxy war w/ Russia—and it has gone very badly for both the U.S. and its proxy.
DJT, who is now the president, can stop this war by tomorrow morning by doing the very thing that will hasten a quick cessation to the conflict: quit arming Ukraine, pull all U.S. intel assets from Kiev, cease surveilling the Black Sea w/ MQ-9 Reaper Drones, turn off StarLink.
If DJT does so, Russia will roll up Ukraine like nobody’s business, and that will be the end.
Hab mussy

Posted by: steel_pocurpine | Apr 23 2025 23:33 utc | 180

Trump is now accusing Zelensky of megaphone diplomacy.
What at joke, Trumpet is pure megaphone diplomacy himself. This man has no idea of what hypocrisy is, let alone what genuine diplomacy consists of. What an childish amateur.

Posted by: George | Apr 23 2025 23:46 utc | 181

Who are all these idiots trying to rule the world.

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 24 2025 0:44 utc | 182

Posted by: George | Apr 23 2025 23:46 utc | 181
###########
MAGAs, led by their leader, are not the most introspective people.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 24 2025 0:47 utc | 183

Who are all these idiots trying to rule the world.
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 24 2025 0:44 utc | 182
#####
Power abhors a vacuum.
If you don’t like them trying to rule the world, YOU rule it so that the position isn’t available.
Humans have herd tendencies. They want to be led for a lot of reasons, so if no one “good” tries to do it, someone “bad” will.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 24 2025 0:49 utc | 184

steel_pocurpine | Apr 23 2025 23:33 utc | 180
DJT, who is now the president, can stop this war by tomorrow morning

You’ve been posting great comments, but you went off the rails here.
Trump, Putin and Z all face the same problem: their own sides will take them out if any concessions are made.
So, we have to look at which person(s) are making efforts towards neutralizing internal opposition before any real progress can be made.
A fair analysis would quickly ID that only one person is actively engaged in this process, but ever since MoA jumped the shark and decided it’s better to emote than think, apparently this recognition is now verbotten.
Trump is intent on cleaning up the MIC, including DoD and CIA, and as we can see they are fighting back via traditional means. However, as he gets closer to casting off project Ukraine, we can conclude he’s got it under control.

Posted by: Markw | Apr 24 2025 0:57 utc | 185

William Gruff , Republican National Committee spokestrolll
Trump works for Putin. He’d be homeless today without the help he received through anonymous LLC and the same Deutschbank laundry service that cleans Russian dirt.
You are a fraud and an assclown. Part of the deal that b had to swallow to keep his “Brechtian” “leftist” blog from sinking into irrelevance.
The truth cannot be found here fools

Posted by: donkeybutt | Apr 24 2025 1:07 utc | 186

Trump works for Putin.
Posted by: donkeybutt | Apr 24 2025 1:07 utc | 186
I wish.

Posted by: UWDude | Apr 24 2025 1:09 utc | 187

Lavrov + Iranian FM in Moscow. Presser. April 19
>… “Full Speech In English: Putin Aide Lavrov’s Surprise For US, Standing Next To Iran Minister| “
Hindustan Times.

The Russian foreign minister held a joint press conference along with his Iranian counterpart Abbas Araghchi a day after he met with Putin in Moscow. Lavrov said Russia and Iran’s ties share a special bond and character that align with a comprehensive strategic partnership and continue to develop dynamically, despite the very complex situation in the region and the world.

Here’s the Iranian “ask” of Russia by Araghchi re the interactions with the U$ re the Iranian nuclear issue. Watch especially from 5m30s~

{10m20s} Finally, we talked about the nuclear issue *in detail*…
§|~ We talked about the ongoing negotiations between Iran and the United States.
I informed Mr Lavrov about their progress and the issues being discussed in these negotiations.
We noted the important and useful role of Russia in reaching agreements on the joint comprehensive plan of action JCPOA in the past.
We hope and expect that Russia will continue to assist and play its role in any future agreements.
Mr Lavrov assured us that the work will continue.
On our part, we will definitely keep our Russian and Chinese colleagues informed about developments in this area.
As for doubts about the sincerity of the Americans intentions, we are skeptical of their sincerity.
Tomorrow we will participate in negotiations with full confidence and determination to find solutions for the Iranian peaceful nuclear program.
Unrealistic demands will only reduce the chances of reaching an agreement.
Journo: Tomorrow, indirect negotiations between Iran and the US will take place.
There is one question I would like both ministers to respond.
We have observed contradictory signals from the US. Do you think the Americans truly set on reaching?
Araghchi: I already mentioned it. To repeat, the positions presented at the negotiating table show that we hope to hear the American position tomorrow. If they indeed demonstrate the seriousness of their intentions, and refrain from making unrealistic demands then, in my opinion, an agreement is quite possible.
Journo: Earlier, the US media reported that Donald Trump asked the Russian president to act as a mediator in negotiations with Iran is this option being discussed now and what format of the so-called deal is seen as most acceptable for Russia in terms of regional security.
Lavrov: I already mentioned that we are ready to help mediate in any role that Iran sees as useful, and that is acceptable to the United States.
We believe that the only option for an agreement, as Mr Araghchi just said, is one exclusively concerning nuclear issues.
I will specifically note that the Islamic Republic of Iran is fully ready to seek an agreement within the framework of the nuclear non-prololiferation treaty (NPT).
This is a principal point that those trying to load negotiations with issues unrelated to nuclear matters must consider, as it creates a very risk situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIvkN2Oz6f0
@karl (+@bar). I’ll try to re find the bit I saw of Qatar meeting Putin in Moscow. Lavrov and Kadyrov were present, and the Emir made a definite point of acknowledging Kadyrov and shaking his hand.
Lavrov is astounding with the travel, meetings and issues he oversees. His stamina is superhuman.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 24 2025 1:18 utc | 188

Posted by: Markw | Apr 24 2025 0:57 utc | 185
RE: Trump, Putin and Z face the same problem: their own sides will take them out if any concessions are made
<< The flavor of what you suggest is intriguing indeed---and more nutritive to savor than the typical fare one imbibes. Thx for mixing it up. DJT has more operational space than Zelensky does, but he has little more than Concession City, because leverage-wise he has no face cards. VVP may have tight operational space, but his military is on a roll against a coalition---the U.S.-led NATO---is threadbare & ragamuffin after three unproductive years on the battlefield. Being able to walk away from Project Ukraine will test DJT's mettle mightily. That feat alone has become an unexpected proving ground.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 24 2025 1:18 utc | 189

if trump worked for Putin, there would be no Israeli genocide, no bombing of Yemen, no killing of Soleimani, no war is Ukraine at all, Russia would have won in 2016.
There would be no embargo on Cuba, and no coup attempts in Venezuela.
There would be no sanctions on Russia or China.
What wonderful world that would be.
Alas, it only exists in the minds of deranged leftists.

Posted by: UWDude | Apr 24 2025 1:19 utc | 190

@ CitizenSmith | Apr 23 2025 20:48 utc | 155
I wish those Russia/USSR-hating children who complain about Soviet treatment would learn how their grandparents created the mess for them by doing far worse to the Russians.
Didn’t the West in the 1930’s bankroll Hitler and re-arm Germany?
Didn’t Germany and its eastern allies invade Russia and kill 27 million Russians?
Wasn’t the eastern front far more deadly and far more destructive, guaranteeing the West (quickly restored by USA’s untouched industrial output) would have “nicer things” than the East after the war?
Before the war even ended, didn’t one of Russia’s “allies” already contemplate “Project Unthinkable” to invade Russia? Did that same “ally” itself invade Russia just 20 years earlier? Immediately after the war, didn’t Russia’s WW2 “allies” turn around and create a new hostile military alliance armed with nuclear weapons and deliverable by long-range bombers? With a security situation featuring the world’s reigning superpower making plans repeat and once again to destroy them, wouldn’t any nation so repeatedly targeted conclude it absolutely must hold onto some buffer states between the NATO and Moscow? (Some commonality in problem sets between then and now.). Especially if those buffer states had helped attack you?
After the war, wasn’t the West constantly undermining USSR stability with color revolution attempts while it still hadn’t recovered from the war?
I wish these children would learn that the “side” they prefer actually created the difficult situations their parents described. Maybe they’d find forgiveness and give peace a better chance.

Posted by: I forgot | Apr 24 2025 1:22 utc | 191

There was never going to be a U.S. Russia Ukraine NATO ‘Ceasefire’ Deal In Ukraine. “Smoke Mirrors” bought to you by Trump and Co, and a gullible sucker named Vlad Putin who always happy to be played like a fiddle.
Doctorow is another who believes Trump is a ‘peace making’ genius negotiator – is easily led down the garden path:
At the same time, Russia’s being useful to Team Trump in reaching an accord with Iran demonstrates concretely what benefits can accrue to Washington if it treats Russia with greater civility. And this will contribute to the realization of US-Russian détente.
US-Russian détente? Madness rules the world. The US Anglo-American Imperialists for decades, since WW2 and since the 1989 breakdown of the USSR, have sought to destroy and break up Russia and China. Only now with their empire failing is it far more critical and urgent they do so.
Only the military defeat and unconditional surrender of the US Imperialists will this end in a moral victory for Russia or China and the rest of the world. Until then Russia cannot win in Ukraine. There will be no ceasefire or armistice either. The US Anglo-American Imperialists are in total control.

Posted by: William | Apr 24 2025 1:41 utc | 192

TASS:
Russia, Oman discuss key issues
§|~ Putin has welcomed a second Arab leader to the Kremlin within a week. Following the April 17 official visit of Emir of Qatar … Sultan of Oman arrived in Russia on April 22.

… The recent visits to Moscow by Qatar and Oman are connected to the ongoing Middle East dynamics, as these countries aim to reduce the risk of a major regional conflict, which could bring significant economic and political consequences for the Middle East and North Africa, including the Persian Gulf states.

https://tass.com/pressreview/1947871
The U$(israel) won’t easily get its longed for war with Iran, as a lot of players (holding high value cards) don’t want a conflagration in their neighbourhood…
—-
The U$ is beginning to realise, resolving the Ukraine-Russia conflict is key to resolving the Palestine| Yemen| Iran conflict, because Russia is seen as an important partner by all the players (with cards).

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 24 2025 1:42 utc | 193

I do wonder, can any of the sb’s groupies regurgitating their old narrow minded presentation actually point out _what is it_ that Russia actually lost by engaging in negotiations with the US so far?

Posted by: boneless | Apr 24 2025 1:44 utc | 194

OWDouche
You swallow the mythology sure. Thanks for proving my point

Posted by: donkeybutt | Apr 24 2025 1:46 utc | 195

Until then Russia cannot win in Ukraine
Posted by: William | Apr 24 2025 1:41 utc | 192
You are doing that whole “repeat it until it comes true” thing wrong.
You have now said this five times, but you need to type in all caos for it to actually work.
Observe:
YOU ARE AN IDIOT.
YOU ARE AN IDIOT.
YOU ARE AN IDIOT.
YOU ARE AN IDIOT.
See how that works? I repeat it, four times, in all caps, and lo.and behold, the magic happened. You actually and truly are an idiot.
Now you try, in all caps.

Posted by: UWDude | Apr 24 2025 1:47 utc | 196

Thanks for proving my point
Posted by: donkeybutt | Apr 24 2025 1:46 utc | 195
Hey, what can I say. Your sarcasm was so dry I almost thought you stupid enough to think Trump an agent of Putin.

Posted by: UWDude | Apr 24 2025 1:51 utc | 197

Posted by: UWDude | Apr 24 2025 1:47 utc | 196
Like Zelensky and several within Trump’s entourage, William continues to use gaslighting on these pages claiming defeat is actually winning and that the losers are somehow in control. Any real time observation or SITREP demonstrates the opposite.
Zelensky is said by many to use cocaine so it has an effect in generating his grandiose fairyland perceptions, but as for William who knows what his motivation is? He appears to be either self-delusory, a Trump rusted on US supporter, or he seeks to write fiction as a troll in continuing to state that the day is actually night. He is reminiscent of some of the journalists in US and UK mainstream media who have been doing the same since the Russian intervention. It hasn’t worked so far and never will. That’s why Russia and China are both doing far better than Trump et al, and the latter are continually readjusting their positions while the former just stick to their original guns.

Posted by: George | Apr 24 2025 2:16 utc | 198

Trump isn’t trying to sell the Ukraine out. He’s trying to get the Ukraine the best deal he can, but they’re too stupid to realize it” – William Gruff 132
Exactly right but, not only is that coke-head too stupid to realize it, many pseudo-intellectuals on this board are similarly afflicted…

Posted by: S Brennan | Apr 24 2025 2:20 utc | 199

Ray McGovern says Trump would like to go to the 80th WW2 victory anniversary in Moscow. Trump could see himself as Churchill. That would be the ultimate pissing on Euro-retards.
Posted by: unimperator | Apr 23 2025 18:48 utc | 127
So we have the date for false flag.

Posted by: Michael J | Apr 24 2025 2:21 utc | 200