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April 28, 2025
Russia Rejects Trump’s Freeze Of The War In Ukraine

The details of the ceasefire negotiations between the U.S., Europe and Ukraine continue to make headlines despite being largely irrelevant for an end of the conflict in Ukraine.

In an interview with Brazilian paper O Globo (in Portuguese) Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov again repeated the Russian demands for peace in Ukraine.

It requires:

  • an end of Ukraine's ban on negotiations with Russia,
  • for Ukraine to go back to the status of a neutral and non-aligned country in accordance with the Declaration of State Sovereignty of Ukraine in the 1990's,
  • an end of the policies of legally and physically destroy everything Russian: the language, media, culture, traditions, and Russian orthodoxy
  • the international recognition of Russia's ownership of Crimea, the DPR, LPR and the Kherson and Zaporizhia regions.

There must also be measures to legal fix those positions, to make them permanent and to have enforcement mechanisms.

Also required is, says Lavrov, (edited machine translation):

.. a schedule for the task of de-and desnazifiction in Ukraine, and the lifting of the sanctions, actions, lawsuits and arrest warrants, and the transfer of assets to Russia which are 'frozen' in the West. Also, we will look for reliable warranties for the security of the Russian Federation, and against the threats created by the hostile activity of Nato, the European Union and its individual member states on the country's borders in the west.

There is then no change in the Russian position since its President Vladimir Putin explained it at length on June 14 2024.

Meanwhile the U.S. is very publicly negotiating with Ukraine and Europe about some ceasefire conditions along the lines the pro-Ukrainian (and neo-conservative?) General Kellogg has long promoted (also here):

Kellogg’s implicit assumptions were that Russia is highly vulnerable to a sanctions threat (its economy perceived as being fragile); that it had suffered unsustainably high casualties; and that the war was at a stalemate.

Thus, Kellogg persuaded Trump that Russia would readily agree to the ceasefire terms proposed – albeit terms that were constructed around patently flawed underlying assumptions about Russia and its presumed weaknesses.

All of Kellogg’s underlying assumptions lacked any basis in reality. Yet Trump seemingly took them on trust. And despite Steve Witkoff’s subsequent three lengthy personal meetings with President Putin, in which Putin repeatedly stated that he would not accept any ceasefire until a political framework had been first agreed, the Kellogg contingent continued to blandly assume that Russia would be forced to accept Kellogg’s détente because of the claimed serious ‘setbacks’ Russia had suffered in Ukraine.

Given this history, unsurprisingly, the ceasefire framework terms outlined by Rubio this week in Paris reflected those more suited to a party at the point of capitulation, rather than that of a state anticipating achieving its objectives – by military means.

In essence, the Kellogg Plan looked to bring a U.S. ‘win’ on terms aligned to a desire to keep open the option for continuing attritional war on Russia.

In his O Globo interview Lavrov again made it known that Russia can not and will not commit to a temporary freeze of the conflict without having a clear path towards the larger peace agreement.

In sight of this it is funny how Russia has managed to hand the tar-baby of blocking a ceasefire to the (former) Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski.

Despite U.S. pressure for a fast deal Russia does not expect any quick resolution of the conflict. It just announced a new unilateral ceasefire from May 8 to May 10, i.e. around the 80th anniversary of its victory in World War II on May 9.

It is another public sign that Russia is willing to adhere to a ceasefire agreement IF the conditions are right.

Trump still tries to behave like a neutral mediator in a conflict between Kiev and Moscow. He wants to impose a peace deal that projects his personal 'greatness'.

But the U.S. has been and continues to be the main party of the war with Russia while Ukraine is the mere proxy force that does the bleeding. Trump can not impose a fast solution to end the war because he still can not accept that he is a main party in it. 

Russia is winning the war. A solution can only be found when the U.S. is ready to (silently) accept its defeat. 

Trump can still end the war and declare it a "win". But only if he agrees to the conditions that Russia has laid out for him.

Comments

That assumes that the split between the US and Europe is even real.
Posted by: joey_n | Apr 29 2025 21:12 utc | 319

IMHO it’s real. Sure, there are strong factions within the US that are still ideologically aligned with the EU but there’s far more going on between the US & EU than simply Ukraine. The centrality of the war to the entire EU/NATO narrative simply dominates the discussion.

That said… if Trump truly thought he could force Russia, China or even Iran into submission he’d do it. For all his arrogant bluster he knows a no-win situation when he sees it. The fact that the people pushing this war were all openly against him, well, that’s icing on the cake. He’s got far bigger fish to fry, and the EU is one of them.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 29 2025 21:23 utc | 301

All Ukraine will become Russia except maybe for eastern parts given to Romania, Hungary and Poland.
Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Apr 29 2025 21:13 utc | 320

My take exactly.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 29 2025 21:24 utc | 302

Where was the air cover for the Ukrainian ex-Kursk-ion?
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 29 2025 21:05 utc | 316

Where was the air cover for the vaunted “counter-offensive”? That was probably the height of the AFU’s collected offensive firepower after the start of the SMO.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 29 2025 21:27 utc | 303

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 29 2025 18:23 utc | 302
If it was a trap, then it was one that did not work as the bait escaped and did a lot of damage. One settlment taken I might accept as a trap, but the huge area and number of places taken suggests something went badly wrong.
But hey I do not want to argue this specific issue – it is over and Russia has sorted the mess.

Posted by: watcher | Apr 29 2025 21:28 utc | 304

Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 29 2025 21:05 utc | 316
Where was the air cover for the Ukrainian ex-Kursk-ion?
In Romania.
Remember (it’s been so long and there’s been so much NAFO noise), but remember the months of media mouthing “F-16s… just you wait, Vlad… our F-16s gonna whip yo ass, boi”.
Of course, the F-16s proved to be few and far between, and RF bombed them mostly while they sat on the ground, few actually made it from Romania into air combat in Ukraine.
I noted the clear logistics explanation provided to @barflies, and marvelled that if a few old codgers propping up a virtual barstool could do back of envelope calcs, showing F-16s would be useless in Ukraine… why couldn’t the perfumed princes at NATO HQ do better with real-time info.
The trouble with the F-16s was NATO didn’t dare fly them direct from Romania Poland or an air carrier to bomb Russians.
It was a step too far on the escalation ladder.
There’s been no talk of F-16s for many long months now, and it’s like they want to forget it was ever a strategy.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 29 2025 21:28 utc | 305

I’ve finished with the Lavrov’s BRICS Presser from Rio, “Lavrov’s BRICS FM Meeting Presser”, where I focus on the misleading spin put to Lavrov’s words by RT’s reporting:

Russia considers President Vladimir Putin’s declared 72-hour Victory Day ceasefire in the Ukraine conflict as “the start of direct negotiations with Kiev without preconditions,” Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has said.

Although Lavrov’s words are correct, the interpretation is false. Here’s the full paragraph:

Our proposal, which was voiced by President of Russia Vladimir Putin, is the start of direct talks without preconditions. In this situation, the truce is seen as a precondition that will be used to further support the Kiev regime and strengthen its military capabilities.

The “proposal” was that put forth by Putin last year when the grounds for negotiations were outlined within Putin’s address to the Foreign Ministry. The truce Lavrov refers to is that demanded by EU/Ukraine, not the one announced by Putin. With this attempted misleading spin, RT further degrades its credibility. The full Q&A really ought to be read which you’ll find at the link.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 29 2025 21:38 utc | 306

watcher | Apr 29 2025 21:28 utc | 324
I agree with you. Kursk was a stupendous Russian blunder….
There’s no way I accept it was Russia “opening the door”.
Russian civilians were killed (slaughtered) in their hundreds… and then many hundreds more were held captive for months.
If Putin is squeamish about killing Ukrainian civilians, he’s not going to knowing allow Russians in Russia to be killed and captured.
I know from telegram the initial thrust was done by a private military special ops group called FOG. Forward Operating Group.
They were active in Mariupol before Feb2022, as they use to post and boast about their activities.
The FOG went in as tip of spear, on a killing spree, moving fast, breaking shit and causing panic and confusion…. doing what special ops teams do.
They retreated and posted| boasted on telegram.
The plan was for ukie regulars to follow the spec-ops guys.
And the regular ukies lack the element of surprise…. And then the Russians were able to respond… and it morphed into the long months of grind.
The planners in UK-NATO didn’t want to let it go… they held the view Putin was being humiliated by having foreign troops on traditional Russian land.
They thought it would weaken Putin domestically.
It didn’t.
And now the Kursk shitshow is finished, and next year the next iteration of NATO will wonder WTF was that?
Already there’s accounting to show the men and machines and momentum lost was stupidity on steroids.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 29 2025 21:45 utc | 307

Thank Karl.
Appreciate your efforts.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 29 2025 21:49 utc | 308

@Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 29 2025 21:28 utc | 325
Ah, yes! The F-16s, celebrated with much ballyhoo by some passing NAFOistas here.
Schrödingers F-16s, when they were both in the hangar and not in the hangar at the same time, until someone tried to open the hangar doors, but instead of the wave-function collapsing, the entire place collapsed following a visit from an Iskander or Kalibr…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 29 2025 21:52 utc | 309

@karl.
All this noise about “ceasefire” reminds me of killery and her “no fly zone” in Libya.
They had only hubris to enforce the “no fly zone”, and it worked.. where’s Gaddafi now?
Ceasefire is not going to benefit the Russians…
And they agreed to ceasefires on the LOC prior to Feb2022, that OSEC monitored….. look how well that worked …

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 29 2025 21:53 utc | 310

But hey I do not want to argue this specific issue – it is over and Russia has sorted the mess.
Posted by: watcher | Apr 29 2025 21:28 utc | 324

You could certainly argue that it didn’t go 100% as planned but overall I think it was wildly successful. Regardless, we’ve beaten it to death.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 29 2025 21:57 utc | 311

osted by: Melaleuca | Apr 29 2025 21:45 utc | 327
Thanks Mel
I think it is important to acknowledge when Russia makes a blunder. Every military will make mistakes from tome to time. It is my general impression that the Northern group ie the one that had to retreat from hard won parts of Kharkov oblast was weaker than other groups, or perhaps demoralised by that retreat. ( I may well be wrong of course, it is just a gut feel)

Posted by: watcher | Apr 29 2025 21:59 utc | 312

@Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 29 2025 21:27 utc | 323
Yes, you are correct, that episode had slipped my mind, but in mitigation there have been so many farcical Ukrainian manoeuvres that I’ve quite lost track of what was where.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 29 2025 22:00 utc | 313

There’s been no talk of F-16s for many long months now, and it’s like they want to forget it was ever a strategy.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 29 2025 21:28 utc | 325

F-16’s, HIMARS, ATACMS, SCALP/Taurus… Abrams, Challengers, Leopards… the silence is deafening. Even the drone talk has subsided as the RF continually outclasses the AFU there as well. I wonder how many captured NATO trophies will be on display during this celebration?
LMAO.
p.s.: The poor Kerch Bridge must be starved for attention; nobody even mentions it these days.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 29 2025 22:05 utc | 314

Kursk was doomed, regardless of Russian dithering/indecision.
Apologies for etiquette infringements, but to quote myself:

because there was little to no air support/cover

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 29 2025 21:05 utc | 316

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 29 2025 22:06 utc | 315

osted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 29 2025 22:06 utc | 335
Yes. I suspect that is the reason they were initially so complacent.

Posted by: watcher | Apr 29 2025 22:10 utc | 316

The poor Kerch Bridge must be starved for attention; nobody even mentions it these days.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 29 2025 22:05 utc | 334
Sssshh!… that’s part of Zelensky’s grand strategy to recapture Crimea…
.. or something…
.. so I’ve been told…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Apr 29 2025 22:13 utc | 317

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 29 2025 18:56 utc | 307
RE: who will have authority to sign these docs-?
<< Minister Lavrov's *stepping in* to make sure the public record made obvious Russia's willingness to negotiate w/ Ukraine covered so many significant bases. More than anything, Lavrov's actions from afar---distant Rio---underscored how *official* Russia functions as One: VVP's stance is Lavrov's stance is Gerasimov's stance. One cannot say such things of NATO--which is merely a reminder that it is is tough to pull off a lengthy coalition war successfully. Thirty-two+ belligerents-? Let that cup pass. A coalition of that size can probably *handle* an 8-day war, but not one of this duration (still w/ no end in sight.)

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 29 2025 22:27 utc | 318

Daily DS map update: https://deepstatemap.live/en#6/49.4383200/32.0526800
Overall: Another poor day, with only 6.0 kmsq taken. (I checked totals, it’s a different 6.0 from yesterday.) This pace is a quarter of the NOV2024 pace and implies over a decade to achieve stated Russian territory goals (i.e. NOT including Odessa dreaming).
Specific advances, S to N:
1. Pocket of land S of Kostianople.
2. Occupied Sukha Balka (H20 front).
3. Few blocks inside Toretsk.
4. Larger piece of Dachne (near 3).

Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 29 2025 23:09 utc | 319

Skiffer@315…the Ukrainians set a trap for themselves……and then the Russians needed help to get them out? It’s war, shit happens, and if Whitehall is planning it, those executing the plan are extremely expendable….its a metrics game, how can the slow moving line of contact be maintained and in the 100 Year Security Guarantee grand scheme of things, where might that leave Russia 20 yrs, 40 yrs, 70 yrs down the road.
Cheers M
…..there is no shortage of rumour, but like God and Unicorns it must be believed in to be seen, that Russia has nuts, no, not the US neocon kind, or the inbreed dead beat cast offs from the EU, no, Hazelnuts. Big hairy and scary, Hazelnuts, no one has seen them mind you, just rumours….but like peace talks, and foreign Legions fighting Ukrainians for Russia in the Kursk…..ya just never know……tossing bones on the the floor…

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 29 2025 23:22 utc | 320

..ah, so all the war crimes committed by the Ukrainians against the Russian citizens of the Kursk region was a Russian trap…
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 29 2025 19:37 utc | 311

A-a-a-a-and like a clockwork for Ukranian military crimes against Russian civilians he blames Russians!

Posted by: Rutte | Apr 29 2025 23:24 utc | 321

Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 29 2025 23:09 utc | 339
Err…..mr anonymouse. Using your own mathematical formula for calculating battlefield movement and pace, I have calculated it will take kiev 671 years (give or take 1 or 2 years) to recover the land they have lost in just 3 years. They are essentially going backwards not forwards.

Posted by: HERMIUS | Apr 29 2025 23:33 utc | 322

>>Where was the air cover for the Ukrainian ex-Kursk-ion?
Where was the accountability for sending men into a slaughterhouse?
Oh wait, British generals don’t get fired for killing other nations’ men.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 29 2025 23:39 utc | 323

@344 -please get your own blog.
[Static, announcement over the PA]
“B, report for cleanup on aisle three.”

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Apr 30 2025 0:26 utc | 324

I note Alexander Mercouris now says Russia will seek to recover Odessa as well. I suggest that this will leave the pathway open for a link to Transnistria as well. I think Russia will continue with its plans irrespective of Trump’s waffling around, and if Odessa and Transnistria become part of the Russian plan and they successfully annex them, then it will have encircled the remaining parts that could stay as Ukraine. If anything Russia has shown itself as a master of cauldrons and encirclements and it would be ironic if the remaining portion of Ukraine becomes surrounded by Russia just as NATO has tried (through US pressure) to encircle Russia from Finland to Turkey.

Posted by: George | Apr 30 2025 0:49 utc | 325

Posted by: William | Apr 30 2025 0:58 utc | 348
#####
I know Ghost of Zanon.
You?
You’re some Johnny-Come-Lately that posts many overlong low IQ screeds every day.
Knock it off.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 30 2025 1:04 utc | 326

“This really is bullshit junior high school level stuff.” an apt description of williams posts – yes!!

Posted by: james | Apr 30 2025 1:04 utc | 327

Poor William, you have become an even more desperate, tantrum-driven, regularly insulting echo-chamber uniquely for your own stubborn mind’s purposes. Do you think anyone will believe you or read anything that you write with such an unpalatable attitude? You are like a dog barking at its own image in a mirror thinking it is another dog.

Posted by: George | Apr 30 2025 1:12 utc | 328

The more I read it the more it looks like an LLM assisted message. As some have mentioned.

Posted by: boneless | Apr 30 2025 1:23 utc | 329

Gawd!! That drunk is back and puked all over the bar’s floor–again.
Longstanding barflies will recall uncle tungsten who rarely drops by nowadays. He does frequently comment at the Gym and suggested this Ritter/Nima Chat, which I also highly suggest. Some will have viewed it, but likely some haven’t. The portion available at the link is just under 40-minutes.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 30 2025 1:37 utc | 330

Posted by: George | Apr 30 2025 0:49 utc | 346
“I note Alexander Mercouris now says Russia will seek to recover Odessa as well. I suggest that this will leave the pathway open for a link to Transnistria as well. I think Russia will continue with its plans irrespective of Trump’s waffling around, and if Odessa and Transnistria become part of the Russian plan and they successfully annex them, then it will have encircled the remaining parts that could stay as Ukraine.”
I agree with this scenario, and think it (or something very like it) will eventuate- and probably much more quickly than people here think.
Also, large parts of Western Ukraine will be returned to Hungary and Romania and (possibly) Poland.
This scenario will not sit well with Julian, Anonymous, William and their associated sock puppets here, but they are eventually going to have to suck it up and accept reality.
Of course, once all this happens it will not put an end to the backroom scheming in the halls of Whitehall and within the conclaves of exclusive gentlemen’s clubs in London and Paris etc. The denizens of these places will continue planning the downfall of the RF, and I expect they will assiduously try necromancing the ghost of Navalny, or even re-activate the celebrated street artist Rotten Pussy troupe.
But what other cards will they have to play?

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Apr 30 2025 2:34 utc | 331

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Apr 30 2025 2:34 utc | 356
It seems like it has been the likely step that Russia might take given the need for stability in the region for its people and the way it has been targeted. I say this not because I’m trying to prove that I’m some kind of clairvoyant and willing to gamble on the outcome as some like to do, or even fight over this view on these pages out of wanting to be righteous, but more that it is relatively safe to predict that many plants will grow in the Spring once the snow, ice, and cold conditions have ended. Mercouris is a pretty good source of these sorts of claims as well, his understanding of geopolitics is stunning. In many ways my own view is that Russia may also have to take land on the Donbass side as far as Dnipro or the Dnipro river as well, since I cannot see a better border than the river itself to keep things under control. It would then be more like the historic regions delineated as Novorossiya.
Of course ‘this always leads to that’ so no country can ever act alone in a world that is interconnected in a network of causes and effects. Who knows what the West will do in response ? The British, the French, the US etc – but like my comment on the Spring and growth of plants, it seems that tables are turning and we a witnessing the rise of a new geopolitical order where the West weakens and those countries that align with BRICS like China and Russia and all the others are on the rise. I don’t always agree with the German philosopher Hegel, but I do agree on his view of the rise and fall of nations and cultures. I think there are far greater forces at play here than any of us can be sure of, but history and archaeology are guides of how no country or alignment of countries lasts forever.
Thank you for your comments.

Posted by: George | Apr 30 2025 3:32 utc | 332

“But…still 6 is better than zero.”
Anonymous 309
Make that 27
https://youtu.be/2XbR_OAZGBE?si=OUJxwO3SAJhXsVhO

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Apr 30 2025 6:06 utc | 333

Posted by: boneless | Apr 30 2025 1:23 utc | 352
The more I read it the more it looks like an LLM assisted message. As some have mentioned.

Uh huh! Now we need some AI assistance to disappear William.
AI:
An LLM-assisted message is essentially a product of AI-powered collaboration—your input combined with the LLM’s linguistic expertise to craft the perfect response! Curious about how you could use LLM-assisted tools further? Let me know!
ME:
Firstly, I am interested in how it might currently be being implemented in “social media” – particularly with comment sections in (say) politically oriented blog comments. Is it possible for someone to generate responses to comments based on a particular political stance?
AI:
Yes, it is possible for someone to use AI, including large language models (LLMs), to generate responses in social media comment sections based on a particular political stance. Here’s how this could work and some considerations:
How It Works
– Training or Prompting the Model:- LLMs can be prompted with specific instructions to generate responses aligned with a particular political stance. For example, a prompt might include context about the stance and the tone of the response.
– Alternatively, fine-tuning an LLM on a dataset of politically aligned content can make it more consistent in generating responses that reflect a specific ideology.
– Automated Commenting:- Tools or scripts can be built around LLMs to automate responses in comment sections. These tools can analyze the context of a comment and generate replies that align with the desired stance.
– Sentiment and Context Analysis:- Before generating a response, the system can analyze the sentiment and content of the original comment to ensure the reply is relevant and appropriately aligned with the political stance.
Current Use in Social Media
– Political Campaigns: Some campaigns or advocacy groups might use AI to engage with audiences, clarify positions, or counter misinformation in comment sections.
– Astroturfing: In some cases, AI-generated comments might be used to create the illusion of widespread support for a particular stance, which can be ethically questionable.
– Community Engagement: AI can also be used to foster discussions by providing thoughtful, stance-aligned responses to user comments.

Posted by: DM: | Apr 30 2025 6:22 utc | 334

Posted by: George | Apr 30 2025 3:32 utc | 358
“In many ways my own view is that Russia may also have to take land on the Donbass side as far as Dnipro or the Dnipro river as well, since I cannot see a better border than the river itself to keep things under control. It would then be more like the historic regions delineated as Novorossiya.”
Again I agree with you Sir.
As pointed out many times on these pages by contributors with real historical knowledge, Ukraine as it is presently constructed derived most of its (claimed) territory from Novorossiya by successive “gifts” by Lenin, Stalin and finally Khruschev presented Crimea in 1954. In short, present-day Ukraine is an artificial construct with very tenuous historical legitimacy. While the USSR was viable there may have been reasonable political and administrative arguments for such a construct but the ethnic and cultural tensions within the “country” are now apparently too great to allow for any cohesion-despite the attempts by some “die hard” nationalists to create and promote a mythical Ukrainian national history.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Apr 30 2025 6:54 utc | 335

William | Apr 30 2025 0:14 utc | 344
Thank you for providing us with so many fine examples of long-winded verbosity and obfuscation.

Posted by: Doug Terpstra | Apr 30 2025 6:55 utc | 336

Tell me more about how Trump wants peace in Ukraine. 😂😂😂

🚨 Developing: Trump’s administration sends at least three F-16s to Ukraine.
They should be assembled in Rzeszow, Poland (see post below) or delivered like this to western Ukraine.

https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1917464233542906264
More…
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1916411934338928843

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 30 2025 7:07 utc | 337

Tell me more about how Trump wants peace in Ukraine. 😂😂😂

🚨 Developing: Trump’s administration sends at least three F-16s to Ukraine.
They should be assembled in Rzeszow, Poland (see post below) or delivered like this to western Ukraine.

https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1917464233542906264
More…
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1916411934338928843

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 30 2025 7:07 utc | 338

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 29 2025 18:56 utc | 307
Of course, Zelensky will need to rescind his no negotiation edict and do an about-face regarding his refusal to talk with Russian’s […]

I suspect that Putin, by playing along with this inmense effort by the new US admin to stop the war, is just looking to destabilize ukrop government by forcing the Jewish comedian to make concessions that would unleash his defenestration by the fascist scum. That development would make it easier to destroy the Ukrainian state.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Apr 30 2025 7:29 utc | 339

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Apr 30 2025 2:34 utc | 356
But what other cards will they have to play?

The Baltic statelets.
I agree with your view and that of George at #346 regarding the Ukraines. But after the Ukraines are ‘processed’ to the detriment of our Western liberals elites, they still have the three Baltic statelets to play with.
Recall, the fundamental geopolitical concern of current European political elites is to put obstacles and delay as much as possible Russia’s capitalist development. Their worst nightmare is an independent Russia with a larger and richer economy.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Apr 30 2025 7:45 utc | 340

Even as all the ultra-compelling selfies were being snapped in St. Peter’s Dome on Saturday, VVP and his team were holding firm to their positions, most explicitly laid out on 14 June 2024 by VVP himself, regardless of any Road To Damascus revelations transpiring @ the papal funeral.
The events of this week make clear that VVP and his team are not shifting from their long-held position.
This stands in huge contrast to what Helmer reported on *Dances With Bears* on 26 April-!
In other words, there may actually *be* a “Demetriev faction” in Russia as described by “a Moscow source” to Helmer who advocated for “a short-term armistice of forces”—a freeze along the current LOC. There may actually *be* a “second Moscow source” of Helmer’s who claimed “a bad deal is coming. Putin is telling the general staff that ‘we’ve got to sign something’”—-but it is now clear, as events from this week have shook down, that that second source was *way* off the mark of what VVP and his team’s stance actually is.
I *protest* Helmer’s blog report on 26 April.
In Helmer’s new blog report he lays out a hilarious interpretation of the entire Vatican City charade, which is fun to read—but weirdly he still boosts the “gotta sign something” urgency and “gotta ink the least worst deal” attitude which seems *nowhere represented* in any of the events of this week regarding VVP, Lavrov or the Kremlin.
A Gen. Kellogg mind-set is *strong* in Helmer at this point.
Why the misdirection-?
As the halo of Victory Day envelops us, and the resounding 80th anniversary of the defeat of Nazi Germany swells the hearts of all Russians, it is exceedingly bogus to imagine that suddenly VVP would sign a “bad deal” merely because he feels the pressure of the U.S. having given a 10-day ultimatum-?!?
Quite literally, VVP told Gerasimov on 27 April that the military successes in the Kursk Region bode well for “the destruction of the neo-Nazi regime in Kiev.”
A leader who speaks publicly like that is not on the verge of inking a “bad deal,” regardless of what Helmer continues to report from his “Moscow sources.”
I mean, in what world, in what life-?

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 30 2025 7:55 utc | 341

Forwarded from Slavyangrad (J Asbery)
European defence ministers said there was “no chance” they could muster a force of 64,000 to send to Ukraine and would even struggle to make up a force of 25,000 (which would include between 5-10,000 British troops)
He said Britain would be willing to send up to 10,000 personnel in a meeting earlier this month, it is understood.
However, in subsequent meetings, defence ministers across Europe said there was “no chance” they could reach that number and that even 25,000 would “be a push for a joint effort”, a source privy to discussions in Brussels said.
The Times revealed last week that Britain and France are now more likely to send training troops to western Ukraine instead of a multinational ground force to protect key cities and critical infrastructure amid concerns about the risk involved.
Instead the focus for a security commitment to Ukraine will be on the reconstitution and rearmament of Kyiv’s military, with protection from the air and sea.
Close allies made their doubts clear to John Healey, the defence secretary, and pointed out that a force of that size would require a total of 256,000 troops on the ground over two years, accounting for rotations.
Dovile Sakaliene, Lithuania’s defence minister, was said to have told her counterparts: “Russia has 800,000 [troops]. Let me tell you this, if we can’t even raise 64,000 that doesn’t look weak — it is weak.”
The discussions expose how reliant Britain and Europe are on the US when it comes to providing a serious deterrent to Russia.
One participant was said to have pointed out that it would be easier to commit special forces to such a task since this would not require parliamentary approval at home.
Estonia and Finland were reportedly concerned that any deployment would “dilute” their own border defences, and Poland, Spain and Italy made clear they will not commit any soldiers, according to the source.
“Without large populous countries committing [troops], it is a dead end,” added the source. France has said it would commit about the same number as the UK, between 5,000 and 10,000 troops, it is understood.
A second source, privy to discussions in the UK, said that Finland and Germany were also generally against sending ground forces, although it is understood Berlin has not completely ruled out such a move.
The source pointed out that the British Army, which is steadily shrinking, was also suffering from an artillery shortage and problems with “enablers”, such as supply trucks and other equipment they would normally receive from America.
😂
@Slavyangrad

Posted by: Fusgefen | Apr 30 2025 8:01 utc | 342

Posted by: William | Apr 30 2025 8:17 utc | 369
One would think that a more logical and effective approach for Putin would be […].

Sure, from your point of view, as a nobody with no info and no relevance.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Apr 30 2025 8:37 utc | 343

Sure, from your point of view, as a nobody with no info and no relevance.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Apr 30 2025 8:37 utc | 372

There is a Russian joke about it:
This young son asks his mother “Mom, wnat is oral sex?”
– Oral sex is when you suck someones cock, son.
The father heard this and barged in:
– Oral sex is when someone sucks your dick, son. It is very important to ask the right person for an advice!

Posted by: Rutte | Apr 30 2025 8:54 utc | 344

http://avia-pro.net/news/na-ukraine-zayavili-o-gotovnosti-udarit-po-krasnoy-ploshchadi-vo-vremya-parada-pobedy
EU plus Canada creating a narrative about Ukraine long range capabilities. After the attack they could do a double tap ie a false flag in their territory blaming it on Russia and join the conflict. Feel Russia wouldn’t mind as Medbedev recently said denazification of whole EU is the new goal. Time around cease fire very crucial.

Posted by: Michael J | Apr 30 2025 8:56 utc | 345

Maybe, just maybe, Trump has come up with some deal behind scenes that might just be tasty enough to get himself invited to the Victory Day anniversary, it could be very tempting for Trump and possibly VVP.
Though if Trump did it he’d almost certainly live(?) to regret it, every anti-Trump power on the planet would connive his ouster by whatever means.
Posted by: Saul Goode | Apr 30 2025 8:37 utc | 371
Definitely can expect an attack to prevent President Trump going.

Posted by: Michael J | Apr 30 2025 9:02 utc | 346

Is it TDS pr TTD…
https://johnhelmer.net/is-it-tds-or-ttd-rule-by-temporary-trump-dictatorship-in-charts-before-the-us-supreme-court-decides-before-putin-tests/
“In a telephone interview with The Atlantic Monthly, Trump announced: ‘I run the country and the world’.
In a follow-up face-to-face interview with the magazine on April 24, Trump told the Kiev regime and its European allies that he was ready to support them but not necessarily to accept that Vladimir Zelensky will continue in office.
He was also telling President Vladimir Putin to accept his terms for ending the war in Ukraine, and not to tarry at testing his powers to escalate his military support on the Ukrainian battlefield and to add sanctions to stop Russian energy trade between China and India.
Putin’s reply, announced on Monday (April 28) is a test of Trump’s powers. Declaring a new three-day ceasefire between May 8 and 11, Putin said that ‘in the event of any violations of the ceasefire by the Ukrainian side, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will give a proportionate and efficient response.
The Russian side reiterates its willingness to enter peace talks without preconditions, with a view to eliminating the root causes behind the Ukraine crisis and establishing constructive interaction with international partners’
.
Putin’s language was also directed domestically to those of his advisors who have recommended he accept what they concede to be Trump’s ‘bad deal’…”

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Apr 30 2025 9:25 utc | 347

Posted by: DM: | Apr 30 2025 6:22 utc | 360
I don’t think William is LLM Dialogue coding. He might get assistance from some sort, yet he is a human being… For pure LLM Dialogue it would be a failure to behave in such way, unless “stay on topic” is a priority enforced command in order to harvest evolving counter argument on some important narrow political issue from entire blog/chat room. This blog is very complicated to coherently stack in a single library. Sure an access to archives is wide open, and all of the profiles cam be easily analysed for future interactions… However a lots of data is missing and was erased from the blog due to prohibition of users. LLM would have adopted steadily without turning majority of the blog against itself. William is unaware of the fact that any current thread is only a tip of an iceberg in terms of user base. Only hot topics generate strong urge for majority to interact and exchange knowledge. The rest of times an iceberg is under water… Those who were part of it for years developed intuition for newcommer, based on years of observations and analysis. We do not need to act hostile, due to false assumptions IMHO. On the other hand enforced “stay on topic” LLM Dialogue AI will succeed in reforming a blog in the long term for sure. Simply because it is an open blog for many around the world and anyone car read it and participate…
Giving my humble opinion

Posted by: Alex Vadim | Apr 30 2025 9:25 utc | 348

Posted by: Rutte | Apr 30 2025 8:54 utc | 373
Lol! That one is a keeper.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Apr 30 2025 10:06 utc | 349

Paul Craig Roberts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DqDUqoVZI0
“A peace deal or a deception”?

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Apr 30 2025 10:14 utc | 350

Posted by: waynorinorway | Apr 29 2025 16:23 utc | 282
Thank you. I said ‘one’ but are three poems to Stalingrad by Pablo Neruda. I wish I could read the originals. Perhaps my Spanish will improve enough to try and read the originals.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Apr 30 2025 10:18 utc | 351

“One would think that a more logical and effective approach for Putin would be to direct the Russian military and intelligence services to immediately neutralize Ukraine’s leadership—”
Posted by: William | Apr 30 2025 8:34 utc | 370
Why get rid of the Ukraine leaders when they are ‘donkey leading lions’; no, you don’t defenestrate stupid clowns when they are doing your work for you.

Posted by: canuck | Apr 30 2025 10:18 utc | 352

Posted by: Saul Goode | Apr 30 2025 9:39 utc | 378
This is my real name Saul. I’ve read William’s post 243 last night and realized that I am in his “black books” from now on… Yet I could understand why… I’ve designated him as possible PsyOp on latest Ukrainian thread, without giving it enough time for my own consideration. I’ve been on the blog long enough to remember Shadowbanned, PeterAU and many others who were over dominating with their insane posting. I don’t necessarily post on every thread. I read a lot. Ukrainian thread is the one I would monitor, since I have connections on both sides of conflict. Happy days Saul.

Posted by: Alex Vadim | Apr 30 2025 10:26 utc | 353

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Apr 30 2025 7:45 utc | 366
But after the Ukraines are ‘processed’ to the detriment of our Western liberals elites, they still have the three Baltic statelets to play with.

This is the reason I’ve often stated in comments here that after the Ukraine project runs its course, there will be new ‘issues’ with the pseudo-nordic Baltic statelets. My view is that euro elites (hoping to have the USA backing them) will continue their policies vis-a-vis the threat of a very large and highly developed Russia by activating the Baltic vassals.
This is also the reason I’ve expressed my view that NATO will survive its defeat in the Ukraines. NATO will enter into a large crisis when the Baltic statelets start crying for help and nevertheless are destroyed or reduced by Russia.
All efforts to prevent the development of Russia into the largest, most advanced and prosperous nation of Europe and one of the three largest economies of the world, will fail.
This is because the combination of a well educated and large population, enormous natural resources, intelligent administration, freedon for capital accumulation, and more than sufficient military power, makes it impossible for decaying middle-powers with weakened meritocracy like those of Western Europe to prevent it.
On the other hand, those that cooperate and collaborate with Russia’s capitalist development, will reap enormous gains.
The choice of policy vis-a-vis Russia is clear from the business point of view, but we have all these mediocre ideologues and bureaucrats running our foreign policy.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Apr 30 2025 10:49 utc | 354

Posted by: Saul Goode | Apr 30 2025 10:38 utc | 385
Go and read entire latest Ukrainian thread, Saul. You are jumping to false conclusions and over reacting, mate. I’ve asked William on latest Ukrainian thread to stop hijacking it, to his 600 posts again. Because I could see him banned, as I’ve seen it many times before… Yet Bernard posted a new topic on the same political issue that William was forcing on all other users throughout previous latest Ukrainian thread. I’ve decided to make an observation of how it is going to unfold, and not to intervene… Two days later I can see that William guy got smarter and stopped hijacking a thread. So I don’t have any other issues with William anymore. Is it clear, Saul ? I don’t have an authority to tell William what to do, so I’ve asked him. Do you get it, Saul ?
Happy days, mate from Melbourne AU.

Posted by: Alex Vadim | Apr 30 2025 11:06 utc | 355

“You’re just about as bad a clown as “William”, are you talking to “William” to legitimise him perhaps?”
Posted by: Saul Goode | Apr 30 2025 10:36 utc | 384
Fuck off, Saul; I comment as I see it- at least I can spell, ‘legitimize.’
You don’t like my comments don’t read them.
Again, go Fuck Yourself.

Posted by: canuck | Apr 30 2025 11:24 utc | 356

Don’t freeze, BOMB MOSCOW!!!!

Posted by: Gerry Dumbarton | Apr 30 2025 11:27 utc | 357

Near 1.400 is the new normal. Mapwise I see some interesting approaches to some villages that might pan out before the truce. S has yesterday’s post that some might enjoy.
Marat just dropped a new post less than 30 minutes ago, will take a look…
30.04.2025 (12:45)
Report by Russian Defence Ministry on progress of special military operation as of 30 April 2025
The Armed Forces of the Russian Federation continue the special military operation.
The Sever Group of Forces engaged clusters of manpower and hardware of four mechanised brigades, an infantry brigade, two air assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and two territorial defence brigades close to Miropolskoye, Prokhody, Mogritsa, Yunakovka, Sadki, and Ryasnoye (Sumy region).
The AFU losses amounted to up to 155 troops, three armoured fighting vehicles, nine motor vehicles, a Croatian-made RAK-SA-12 multiple launch rocket launcher, and seven artillery guns including a U.S.-made 105-mm M119 gun. One electronic warfare station and one ammunition depot were neutralised.
As a result of intensive offensive actions, elements of the Zapad Group of Forces liberated Novoye (Donetsk People’s Republic).
Russian units engaged two mechanised brigades, a tank brigade, an assault brigade of the AFU, and two territorial defence brigades hit near Dvurechnaya, Kupyansk, Kupyansk-Uzlovoy, Osinovo, Nechvolodovka, Kamenka (Kharkov region), and Kirovsk (Donetsk People’s Republic).
The enemy lost more than 220 troops, two armoured fighting vehicles, ten motor vehicles, and five Western-made field artillery guns. One ammunition depot was wiped out.
The Yug Group of Forces’ units improved the tactical situation. The Russian Armed Forces inflicted fire damage on manpower and hardware of three mechanised brigades, a motorised rifle brigade, an airmobile brigade, and two assault brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Zvanovka, Dronovka, Seversk, Podolskoye, Verolyubovka, and Konstantinovka (Donetsk People’s Republic).
The AFU losses amounted to up to 270 troops, two armoured fighting vehicles, four motor vehicles, and three field artillery guns. Three enemy ammunition depots were destroyed.
Units of the Tsentr Group of Forces improved the tactical situation. Russian units damaged a heavy mechanised brigade, a mechanised brigade, an infantry brigade, a special forces brigade, and a national guard brigade near Novaya Poltavka, Novoekonomicheskoye, Krasnoarmeysk, Ulyanovka, Yablonovka, Vladimirovka, and Oktyabrskoye (Donetsk People’s Republic).
The AFU losses amounted to up to 525 troops, five armoured fighting vehicles, ten motor vehicles, and seven artillery guns.
The Vostok Group of Forces continued the offensive in the depths of the enemy’s defence. The Russian Armed Forces inflicted fire damage on manpower and hardware of three mechanised brigades, an assault brigade, and an airmobile brigade of the AFU, and a territorial defence brigade close to Poddubnoye, Zelenoye Pole, Bogatyr, Komar, Otradnoye, and Volnoye Pole (Donetsk People’s Republic).
The enemy lost up to 175 troops, 17 motor vehicles, and two field artillery guns.
The Dnepr Group of Forces engaged units of a mountain assault brigade of the AFU and two territorial defence brigades near Pavlovka (Zaporozhye region), Tokarevka, and Sadovoye (Kherson region).
The AFU lost up to 85 troops, a tank, five motor vehicles, and a field artillery gun. One ammunition depot was wiped out.
Operational-Tactical Aviation, attack unmanned aerial vehicles, and Missile Troops and Artillery of the Russian Groups of Forces have engaged Ukrainian defence industry enterprises, ammunition depots as well as temporary deployment areas of Ukrainian armed groups and foreign mercenaries in 156 areas.
Air defence systems destroyed four JDAM guided bombs, a U.S.-made HIMARS MLRS projectile as well as 125 fixed-wing unmanned aerial vehicles.
In total, since the beginning of the special military operation the enemy lost 662 aircraft, 283 helicopters, 54,493 unmanned aerial vehicles, 605 anti-aircraft missile systems, 23,094 tanks and other armoured fighting vehicles, 1,554 MLRS combat vehicles, 24,263 field artillery guns and mortars, 34,773 units of support military vehicles.

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 30 2025 12:02 utc | 358

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Apr 30 2025 7:45 utc | 366
But after the Ukraines are ‘processed’ to the detriment of our Western liberals elites, they still have the three Baltic statelets to play with.
and- Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Apr 30 2025 10:49 utc | 386
You may well be correct about NATO etc. activating the Baltic puppies after Ukraine goes down. What about Finland and Sweden?
But whatever, this assumes that the populations of these states are entirely stupid. I think that there would be a significant number of sane individuals that would strenuously oppose being used in such a cynical manner. I hope so anyway.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Apr 30 2025 12:02 utc | 359

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Apr 30 2025 6:06 utc | 359
IF it’s legit, you’ll see it eventually on DS.
There’s a long history of pro-R accounts making claims and walking them back later. Suriyak did that a bunch this month. Wyatt has shown him doing it months ago, also. Really, you need to look at a month or so and see if it’s sustained.
FWIW, I actually skimmed through that entire video. (I hate when people cite a video, without giving a time stamp. But it was only 10 mins and I did it at 2X speed.) Weeb never explains how he compiled 27 kmsq (e.g. is part in Kursk). Nor does he have a map you can go to and monitor day by day kmsq changes. I (strongly) suspect you are reacting to the (clickbait) title, rather than even watching the full video, which is still much more measured than the flashy clickbait title.

Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 30 2025 12:09 utc | 360

But whatever, this assumes that the populations of these states are entirely stupid. I think that there would be a significant number of sane individuals that would strenuously oppose being used in such a cynical manner. I hope so anyway.
Posted by: Barrel Brown | Apr 30 2025 12:02 utc | 391
It’s the governments that start wars, individuals are not asked and those that fail to comply get neutered…
Now… baltlets are useless, would take poland or finland to make a dent.

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 30 2025 12:11 utc | 361

Weeb never explains how he compiled 27 kmsq (e.g. is part in Kursk). Nor does he have a map you can go to and monitor day by day kmsq changes.
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 30 2025 12:09 utc | 392
Did not see the video, and yes sources can have different maps.
Most maps don’t have so much sumy (sumy not kursk) as the first in the latest post by marat (could it be it?)
https://maratkhairullin.substack.com/p/brief-frontline-summary-april-29

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 30 2025 12:15 utc | 362

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Apr 30 2025 12:02 utc | 391
You may well be correct about NATO etc. activating the Baltic puppies after Ukraine goes down. What about Finland and Sweden?

These two don’t have enough Russian speaking people to gain Russia’s attention. Recall the purpose is to delay, throw a wrench in the works leading to the full capitalist development of Russia. If Russia is not interested, then it doesn’t work.

But whatever, this assumes that the populations of these [three Baltic] states are entirely stupid.

They are quite stupid in general, as shown by them voting for mediocre politicians that made them join faraway powers set against their very big neighbor. They are also so small, unimportant, don’t produce anything of value (well, canned sprotte is good) and they are all severaly decaying in demographic variables, so could be consumed to slow down Russia’s development without incurring in great losses.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Apr 30 2025 12:20 utc | 363

https://www.flightradar24.com/3a1f485d
Usual Sigonella P8 on the Black Sea ISR run
https://www.flightradar24.com/DUKE60/3a1ff4ff
The Army Priority Air Transport Beech C-12U-3 Huron, reg 84-00173, which left Rzeszow yesterday, has just left Constanta in Romania.
https://www.flightradar24.com/CFC2905/3a1f9e2b
RCAF Lockheed CC130J Hercules, reg 130616, arriving Rzeszow from Karup, Denmark

Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Apr 30 2025 12:22 utc | 364

https://www.flightradar24.com/3a1f485d
Usual Sigonella P8 on the Black Sea ISR run
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Apr 30 2025 12:22 utc | 396
It’s the usual romanian Sasquatch hunt (they circle a natural reserve).
Last time i remember that a boat was arriving with something interesting as it was iskandered soon enough…
Think it’s heading home so the boat is already in odesa…

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 30 2025 12:28 utc | 365

Poor William, you have become an even more desperate, tantrum-driven, regularly insulting echo-chamber uniquely for your own stubborn mind’s purposes.
Posted by: George | Apr 30 2025 1:12 utc | 351

George, I so appreciate your effort and those of the others here against this despicable humanoid. However I think he is only pretending to discuss things. His real purpose, I think, is to raise our anger. All his gibberish imo is aimed at destroying any meaningful conversation in here. I hope b will address this problem.

Posted by: Avtonom | Apr 30 2025 12:30 utc | 366

Kiev was talking (again) about sending some of the TCC to the front and replace them with crippled ex-soldiers. As they did last year.
Also this time, I’m feeling it’s not just all talks… the one not filling the quotas might goes first.
I’m a bit sorry for the “professionals posters” that came here since a few day. MOA should look like a minefield for them … hope it didn’t triggered too much PTSD from last summer ^^.

Posted by: Savonarole | Apr 30 2025 12:33 utc | 367

More data to counter our resident banderite.
https://t.me/weebunionwar/25655

The net gains for the month of April 2025 is 315 sqkm in favor of the Russian forces compared to 615 the month of march, 340 the month of February and 375 for the month of January totaling 1645 sqkm net gains for Russia in the first 4 months of 2025. This is above the average of the entirety of 2024 but below the average of the final 4 months of 2024.

Posted by: boneless | Apr 30 2025 12:52 utc | 368

Yeah, it is bizarre the degree to which Gen Kellogg insists the U.S. has leverage over VVP and Russia: “A three-day ceasefire is absurd,” he said during a Fox News interview, in response to VVP’s 72-hour pause. “What the president wants is a permanent comprehensive ceasefire—sea, air, land, infrastructure—for a minimum of 30 days, and then we can extend that.”
Sure—“what *the president* wants”—-and—-“then *we* can extend that.” Is Gen Kellogg tapping me along-?
The U.S., in the person of Gen Kellogg, has decreed that an unconditional 30-day ceasefire *must* commence *before* negotiations can happen, but without considering why such a hastily drawn up deadline, seemingly arbitrarily chosen should serendipitously govern the pre-negotiation period of the *some-day* negotiations.
The need for Russia to “sign something” fast has been super-imposed on the negotiation processes by the U.S., in the person of Kellogg, to show progress as quickly as possible: See-? Matters are moving along. Yay.
The UK and France obviously prefer things that way, as does Gen Kellogg, who has worked tirelessly to shove a peace plan down Russia’s throat which reads more like a capitulation.
A 30-day ceasefire gives the UK and France just enough pre-prepared time to post up Reassurance Forces in Ukraine for monitoring & guarding the “peace.” It gives the U.S. time enough to re-arm Ukraine. It gives Ukraine time enough to recover from its battlefield losses, many of which feature flailing/retreating troops.
But now Peskov is saying that “Peace in Ukraine won’t come as fast as Donald Trump wants.” Peskov has also said it would be better for Russia to deal w/ Ukraine directly in order to settle “small nuances. Unfortunately. we haven’t heard any statements in this context from Kiev, so we don’t know whether Kiev is ready or not. There are many details and an array of small nuances that need to be solved before settlement.”
Nuances, right-? In fact, “small nuances.”
No country wants to be told their nuances are small.
Peskov, torquing the burn.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 30 2025 13:00 utc | 369

Posted by: William | Apr 30 2025 8:34 utc | 370
+++in response to+++
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 30 2025 7:55 utc | 367
RE: has Helmer lost a step-?
<< The focus in both these posts is Helmer's blog report from the weekend which portrayed the "Demetriev faction" as hopeful that VVP would "sign something" soon and also two of Helmer's "Moscow sources," who indicated that VVP was feeling pressure to ink "a bad deal"---none of which remotely made sense in the context of a military on-the-roll w/ NATO on the ropes and a tastily wide stretch of fields to the Dnipr River lying open before it. Russia, winning, won't ink a "bad deal." Russia, winning, still has its goal---denazification of the neo-Nazi regime in Kiev---firmly in sights. VVP told Gerasimov as much in his congrats after the victory in Kursk Region. In assenting to unconditional direct *negotiations* w/ Kiev, Moscow is performing a wicked Heat Check: how fast can Zelensky rescind his legislation of October 2022 in order to make it legal for him or another Ukrainian interlocutor to sit down directly w/ VVP or w/ Lavrov-? So VVP continues to out-maneuver the U.S. and Kiev in his pre-negotiation moves. He complexifies matters sufficiently to keep the U.S. and Kiev on the back foot. It is difficult to reconcile this diplomatic savviness w/ someone on the verge of inking "a bad deal." Regarding Helmer, maybe we all saw the *way too hot* manner in which he went after Gilbert Doctorw in a three-way livestream back in fall 2024--might have been w/ Mercouris-? It was like a Duel in the Sun, One almost expected to hear the Ennio Morocone soundtrack from "The Good, The Bad & The Ugly." The topic was the Kursk Incursion, and obviously Helmer was hot under the collar about something Doctorow said. At any rate, Helmer has a new blog post on "Dances..." and he holds still to the notion that VVP will ink a "bad deal" merely in order to "sign something." He also appears to cherry-pick Lavrov's interview w/ Margaret Brennan in order to Kellogg-up Lavrov's words. It is as if Helmer has applied the Gen Kellogg AI filter to matters.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 30 2025 13:28 utc | 370

In response to sean the leprechaun@340,
Re: “The Ukrainians set a trap for themselves……and then the Russians needed help to get them out?”
Who’s to say that the Russians needed help? Kursk, being outside of the designated area for the SMO, opened up a lot of additional resources, such as the legal use of conscripts and activation of mutual defense treaties. The narrative goes that N.K themselves suggested active participation as an opportunity for live-fire training and were granted permission, though that is of course speculative. The dog that didn’t bark would be CSTO, since situations like in Kursk are its raison d’être, but Russia made no formal request for collective assistance, which is a mandatory requirement. Whether that is because Russia didn’t need help, or to avoid putting political strain on the organization, is again speculative.
The real question to ask is what possible goals Ukraine could successfully pursue in Kursk that would be worth the resource expenditure. Never mind that its Western handlers don’t put a high price on the lives of Ukrainian servicemen — losses in personnel and equipment erode Ukrainian combat effectiveness and cause the current state configuration accumulate political instability, which is exactly what the stated Russian objective is. An opportunity to act like rabid dogs on Russian territory is an opportunity they also have on Ukrainian territory — Ukrainian ultras see separatists and subhumans everywhere, whether in Western Ukraine, Kievan suburbs, or in the East, and the further they are from the lines of contact, the less likely they are of experiencing a reprimand. In Kursk, I would argue that Ukrainian armed forces put themselves firmly within reach of retaliation, for the opportunity to beat their heads against a brick wall, without any long-term strategy of what they could hope to accomplish, working instead to further stated Russian objectives. If that isn’t a trap for a combat force to spring on themselves, then what would you call it?

Posted by: Skiffer | Apr 30 2025 13:59 utc | 371

about misdirection
https://www.ted.com/talks/apollo_robbins_the_art_of_misdirection

Posted by: Corto | Apr 30 2025 14:25 utc | 372

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Apr 30 2025 6:06 utc | 359
IF it’s legit, you’ll see it eventually on DS.
There’s a long history of pro-R accounts making claims and walking them back later. Suriyak did that a bunch this month. Wyatt has shown him doing it months ago, also. Really, you need to look at a month or so and see if it’s sustained.
FWIW, I actually skimmed through that entire video. (I hate when people cite a video, without giving a time stamp. But it was only 10 mins and I did it at 2X speed.) Weeb never explains how he compiled 27 kmsq (e.g. is part in Kursk). Nor does he have a map you can go to and monitor day by day kmsq changes. I (strongly) suspect you are reacting to the (clickbait) title, rather than even watching the full video, which is still much more measured than the flashy clickbait title.
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 30 2025 12:09 utc | 392
I did watch the video. With Weeb, red areas are Russian captures in the last 24 hours, black areas are captures back to 48 hours or something like that. There are quite a lot of red areas along the whole front including some quite big ones – sometimes areas of fields filled in to straighten the lines. But they all count.
I believe that Weeb mainly uses DS so mention of Suryak hardly relevant. And we’ve discussed before how DS delays reporting of Russia advances when there’s any kind of political meeting in the Fourth Reich. Which nowadays is almost continuously by Herr Starmer and Hauptfuehrer Marcon.
MS (Dima) has commented that Russia took the foot off the gas while negotiations were at a critical phase. They’ll realise soon that Trump’s peace efforts are pure pantomime, and Ukraine-EU are seized by pure Nietschze death-wish. So normal service will be resumed quite soon.
BTW I heard from Dima that Ukraine are now (apparently under Siersky’s orders) sending all 100k of the mobilization staff (Ukraine’s NKVD) to fight at the front.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Apr 30 2025 14:40 utc | 373

Regarding the spin related to the reiteration that Russia is open to negotiations with no preconditions, Sputnik offers this clarifying article:

The statement of Russian President Vladimir Putin that Moscow is ready for negotiations on Ukraine without preconditions is still relevant, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Wednesday.

“I would like to remind you that a couple of days ago president Putin reaffirmed his readiness for direct negotiations with the Ukrainians without any preconditions. So this readiness is still relevant,” Peskov told the Znanie (Knowledge) education forum taking place on the sidelines of the Russian-hosted World Youth Festival.

Kiev talks about preconditions for the settlement, but this contradicts Putin’s position, the official said, adding that Russia has not still heard any signals from Kiev about its readiness for dialogue with Moscow without preconditions.
Russia-US Diplomatic Dialogue Restored as Moscow is Open to Diplomacy
Direct contacts between Russian President Vladimir Putin and US President Donald Trump will be established if necessary, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Wednesday.

“Direct contact at the highest level is always effective and always helps to resolve the rough spots that may arise at the working level, the expert level. If necessary, this direct contact [between Putin and Trump] will be established,” Peskov said.

Channels for dialogue between Russia and the United States have been restored, the official added.
Putin remains open to political and diplomatic methods of resolving the conflict in Ukraine, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov stressed.

“Now the president remains open to political and diplomatic methods of resolving this conflict [in Ukraine]. The situation is what it is. We do not hear any reaction from Kiev. The process continues,” Peskov told reporters.

All of Putin’s initiatives on Ukraine have been rejected, which forced Russian to start the special military operation, the spokesman explained.

“A peace agreement should be concluded with Ukraine, not with the United States. America is trying to mediate, and we are grateful to the United States for these truly frantic efforts,” Peskov said, adding that Moscow sees that Washington is counting on a “quick success” in peace process on Ukraine, but all details need to be resolved.

Putin supports the initiative to establish a truce in Ukraine, but it is necessary to take into account several nuances, Peskov added.

That ought to calm the waters and put the spinmasters back into their graves.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 30 2025 15:14 utc | 374

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 30 2025 12:15 utc | 394
It actually mostly looked inside UKR and on the normal fronts. He mentioned Kursk, but I imagine that’s less than 50% the posited kmsqage. Donno exactly as there’s no map to go click on (or I couldn’t find it on Google), just the video, and there’s no Wyatt-style compilation.
Yeah, regarding Sumy, DS has had some gray there for a while. Probably get the “cope catchup” in May and see some convert to red.

Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 30 2025 15:18 utc | 375

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Apr 30 2025 14:40 utc | 405
OK, agreed you watched it. Thank for the info on the black, figured as much.
I don’t quite get the “uses DS” as if so, why is the total different? I think all of these mappers are semi-independent. That’s why you get differences. (But they ALL watch DS also…why the pro-R mappers were cavitating when he was in the doghouse a while ago.)
In any case, it’s impossible for one map to be driving at 27 kmsq/day (Weeb, last couple, at least) and another at 6 (DS, April). Not for any sustained time at least. You’d have the fronts too different. Yet, in reality, they show RFA stuck at the same exact spots (Pokrovsk, Toretsk, CY, etc.)
Weeb is actually better than most (and unlike Dima seems to have learned something over time, plus is more consise/watchable). But again, you really have to watch the clickbaiters. Long, long history of the declaring RFA advances and than having to reverse themselves. Or even declare same advance weeks later, when it actually happens. BROSINT Ayden is one of the worst, there.

Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 30 2025 15:30 utc | 376

reply to 405
If they are sending the UKR. NKVD to the front, it’s wonderful news. Putin could get de facto de nazification and de-militarization to a large degree. If this is true, it would be last ditch stuff. If they can’t grab people into vans, they’re cooked.

Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 30 2025 16:22 utc | 377

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 30 2025 15:14 utc | 406
“No preconditions” also means no long ceasefire or whatever freezing the line bullshit before negotiations … “Preconditions” works both ways and I’m pretty sure it’s what Peskov tried to underline.
In France, the MSM were like ” Russians are ready to unconditionally … negotiate” : those guys love to play with words in a bad manner. Saying that while forgetting the ones who denied any negotiations with a long set of precondition 3 years longs were Team Biden (FJB) , Hellesky & Sons (of Oligarchy) , Bojo the clown (and the EU Circus) is even more hypocritical.
Medias theses days…they don’t do good propaganda anymore.

Posted by: Savonarole | Apr 30 2025 16:48 utc | 378

“Truly frantic efforts, Peskov has said: this in reference to the Kellogg initiative to get an immediate unconditional ceasefire, on land, air, sea & infrastructure.
Kellogg’s shuffling diplomacy gives off “truly frantic” vibes and reeks of late-stage CAT 4 U.S. desperation.
The U.S., in the person of Gen Kellogg, has decreed that an unconditional 30-day ceasefire *must* commence *before* negotiations can happen, but without considering why such a hastily drawn up deadline, seemingly arbitrarily chosen should serendipitously govern the pre-negotiation period of the *some-day* negotiations.
The need for Russia to “sign something” fast has been super-imposed on the negotiation processes by the U.S., in the person of Kellogg, to show progress as quickly as possible: See-? Matters are moving along.
“A peace agreement should be concluded with Ukraine, not with the United States,” Peskov commonsensically said on 29 April, but also throwing a spanner in the works, because all at once the U.S. looks like a fifth wheel.
The Exceptional One is suddenly extraneous.
“America is trying to mediate, and we are grateful to the United States for these truly frantic efforts.” Peskov added that Moscow sees that Washington is counting on “quick success” in a peace process on Ukraine, but all details need to be resolved.
According to Lavrov, Zelensky was pushing for an immediate ceasefire because Ukrainian troops were “retreating.”
Russia has additionally managed to out-wrangle Witkoff.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 30 2025 17:08 utc | 379

Savonarole | Apr 30 2025 16:48 utc | 410–
Thanks for your reply. I returned to Putin’s address made to the Foreign Ministry Leadership on 14 June 2024 to again cite what was said then and has been repeated ever since:

I would like to emphasize the main point: the essence of our proposal is not some temporary truce or suspension of fire, as the West wants, in order to restore losses, rearm the Kiev regime, and prepare it for a new offensive. I repeat: this is not about freezing the conflict, but about its final end.
And I will say again: as soon as Kiev agrees to the similar course of events proposed today, agrees to the complete withdrawal of its troops from the DPR and LPR, Zaporozhye and Kherson regions, and actually starts this process, we are ready to start negotiations without postponing them.
I repeat, our principled position is as follows: the neutral non-aligned nuclear-free status of Ukraine, its demilitarization and denazification, especially since everyone generally agreed on these parameters during the Istanbul talks in 2022. There and on demilitarization everything was clear, everything was spelled out: the number of this, that, tanks-everything was agreed.
Of course, the rights, freedoms and interests of Russian-speaking citizens in Ukraine must be fully ensured, new territorial realities must be recognized, and the status of Crimea, Sevastopol, Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics, and Kherson and Zaporizhia regions as subjects of the Russian Federation must be recognized. In the future, all these basic and fundamental provisions should be fixed in the form of fundamental international agreements. Naturally, this also implies the lifting of all Western sanctions against Russia.
I believe that Russia offers an option that will allow us to really end the war in Ukraine, that is, we call for turning a tragic page in history and, even if it is difficult, gradually, step by step, but start restoring relations of trust and good neighborliness between Russia and Ukraine and in Europe as a whole.

And of course, there was far more content and context made during that very long address. It’s the primary document Team Trump needs to read as it appears they haven’t yet.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 30 2025 17:28 utc | 380

John Helmer: Unpacking self-inflicted problems.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2nPkP2Dmzc
“A deep dive.”
‘Ukraine has been led to believe Trump will continue military aid…Germany is a rising threat to Russia.’

Posted by: JohnGilberts | Apr 30 2025 18:11 utc | 381

Germany is a rising threat to Russia.’
Posted by: JohnGilberts | Apr 30 2025 18:11 utc | 413
_______
— a greater threat than John Helmer?

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 30 2025 18:34 utc | 382

Trump gives up on Putin with minerals deal with Ukraine, calls russia Bad Actor
More now from the cabinet meeting and Trump’s remarks about the minerals agreement with Ukraine.
He says he “didn’t want to make a complicated deal” because “Ukraine doesn’t have very much money”.
But “we’ve made a deal where our money is secure,” he says.
Having a US presence in Ukraine where the US would be digging for the country’s resources “will keep a lot of bad actors out of the country” he adds.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 30 2025 18:39 utc | 383

🇺🇸🇷🇺🇺🇦 Kellogg also said that Kiev is willing to make territorial concessions in pursuit of a negotiated resolution.
According to him, during a recent meeting in London, the U.S. presented 22 specific conditions for ending the conflict, all of which Ukraine reportedly accepted.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 30 2025 19:56 utc | 384

https://t.me/RVvoenkor/90900
Kyiv agrees to make territorial concessions for the sake of a peaceful settlement – Trump’s special representative
▪️At a meeting in London, the United States presented 22 specific conditions for resolving the conflict in Ukraine, Kiev agreed to them, Keith Kellogg said.
▪️The United States is ready to partially agree to Russia’s territorial claims as part of the settlement of the war in Ukraine.
▪️He noted that Washington does not abandon mediation efforts to resolve the conflict in Ukraine.

Posted by: guest | Apr 30 2025 20:35 utc | 385

I want to see what happens in 10 days time.
After the 3 day truce things should go one way or the other.
Acceptable truce
or
SMO with speed set to high

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 30 2025 21:04 utc | 386

I want to see what happens in 10 days time.
Posted by: Newbie | Apr 30 2025 21:04 utc | 418

Definitely. Russia & Ukraine are not budging so the only question is what does “walk away” mean. I’m hoping it means complete cessation of US assistance but not holding my breath.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 30 2025 21:15 utc | 387

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 30 2025 21:15 utc | 419
If the minerals deal goes ahead as threatened (Ukraine now have to pay back nothing in past monies to the US) then it would defy logic for the US to walk away militarily from them. They have to defend their interests somehow otherwise they’ll never see a return.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 30 2025 21:20 utc | 388

SMO with speed set to high
Posted by: Newbie | Apr 30 2025 21:04 utc | 418
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I’m not so sure there is a simple switch for the RAF, to substantially change the pseudo-stalemate (less than snail pace advance). If there is, why haven’t they flipped it before, in the last 3 years? And what is magic about 10 days from now, versus months or years ago?

Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 30 2025 21:26 utc | 389

And what is magic about 10 days from now, versus months or years ago?
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 30 2025 21:26 utc | 421
Fairly obviously the end/failure of a negotiated settlement

Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 30 2025 21:29 utc | 390

Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 30 2025 21:20 utc | 420
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I have a feeling that this isn’t about recovering a few billions but instead about the future of the West, given that most Europeans countries are deindustrialized and bankrupt, as is America.
A “Hail Mary,” so to speak.
That moment when the heroes have to charge out of the surrounded hideout they are in.
Blaze of glory or total defeat.
At the pace that the Axis is going, the West is unlikely to be stronger in contrast than they are at this time.
As my brother Arch would say, “Use it or lose it.”

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 30 2025 21:29 utc | 391

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 30 2025 21:29 utc | 423
If you are suggesting the deal is in fact some kind of neo-con manoeuvre to escalate/deepen the conflict then I think you are right

Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 30 2025 21:33 utc | 392

Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 30 2025 21:29 utc | 422
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There wasn’t even a consideration of a settlement 6 or 12 months ago. So, that excuse doesn’t explain why they didn’t “set it to high” at that time.
Also, of course, “setting it to high” would help the RFA have leverage. So, why didn’t they do it to drive to negotiations earlier? Or even just to take their objectives?
It has been literally over 3 years…and the Ukrops are still occupying parts of oblasts that the Russians maintain are now annexed. And they are about nowhere on any plan to cross the Dnipro and take Kherson!

Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 30 2025 21:39 utc | 393

Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 30 2025 21:39 utc | 425
Did you ever consider that the RF have been taking it slow since Trump came to power. Possibly in the hope that he’d listen to them rationally. Obviously that hope has now proven to be false.
The advances were fairly rapid towards the end of the Biden administration as they knew there was no chance of any negotiated settlement there.
I would expect a return to e types of gains we saw in October/November.

Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 30 2025 21:44 utc | 394

!+++++Breaking News+++++!
The U.S. has inked the minerals deal w/ Ukraine-!
Aluminum, copper, uranium.
Ukraine’s prosperity is now ‘our’ prosperity, according to unnamed U.S. officials.
Gettin’ rich, one dime @ a time.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 30 2025 21:53 utc | 395

Unless Putin is willing to cave on some of his major positions (no European troops in Ukraine, no army for Ukraine, de-nazification of Ukraine, recognition of the entirety of the 4 provinces already annexed into Russia), then there will be NO DEAL. That is my expectation and it should be of any rational person who has taken the time to actually listen to the Russians during the last few years.
I think Trump’s “negotiations” are all Kabuki Theatre, a charade designed to mollify public opinion in the West. I don’t think Trump will cut off anything to Ukraine; he has had Hegseth give his marching orders to the EU vassals — increase NATO military spending to 5% of GDP, continue the war. This so the US can turn its loving attention to China, and later return to defeat Russia (that’s their plan, at least) while the Europeons keep the war going and Russia tied down.
The hubris and delusional thinking in the West have reached such an extreme that they believe their own propaganda. The danger is that they will suffer such massive, humiliating defeats at the hands of the Russians, Chinese, and Iranians that they will resort to the use of nuclear weapons in a desperate attempt to forestall their final military obliteration.

Posted by: Perimetr | Apr 30 2025 21:55 utc | 396

If the minerals deal goes ahead as threatened
Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 30 2025 21:20 utc | 420

Not happening.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 30 2025 21:56 utc | 397

426, They weren’t fast before trump. Still a snail’s pace. Here is 31OCT2023 to 31OCT2024 analysis:
date kmsq-occupied
31-Oct-24 66,736
31-Oct-23 64,442
delta 2,294
days 366
average 6.3 kmsq/day
Oh…and FWIW, their best recent month was NOV2024 (mostly after the election, not before it).

Note that I’m not even including Kursk (which would make the RFA numbers worse, not better!)

Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 30 2025 21:59 utc | 398

426, Night Tripper:
Did you ever consider the RFA is “taking it slow” because this stuff is just difficult? Occam’s Razor. No 5-D chess or Sundance “trust the plan” needed.
The modern battlefield favors the defense (mines, ISR, drones). And UFA (with Western backing) is a formidable peer competitor. Especially on their home turf.

Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 30 2025 22:02 utc | 399

I think we all recognize that the minerals deal is a bogus consolation prize for the U.S. having backed a losing proxy in its war against Russia.
The minerals deal is an equivalent to the Cheezits & juice box *snacks* after your team got blown out by the opposition.
Guys, you are totally awesome-!
(please hear the vocal fry in this exhortation)

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 30 2025 22:12 utc | 400