Russia Rejects Trump's Freeze Of The War In Ukraine
The details of the ceasefire negotiations between the U.S., Europe and Ukraine continue to make headlines despite being largely irrelevant for an end of the conflict in Ukraine.
In an interview with Brazilian paper O Globo (in Portuguese) Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov again repeated the Russian demands for peace in Ukraine.
It requires:
- an end of Ukraine's ban on negotiations with Russia,
- for Ukraine to go back to the status of a neutral and non-aligned country in accordance with the Declaration of State Sovereignty of Ukraine in the 1990's,
- an end of the policies of legally and physically destroy everything Russian: the language, media, culture, traditions, and Russian orthodoxy
- the international recognition of Russia's ownership of Crimea, the DPR, LPR and the Kherson and Zaporizhia regions.
There must also be measures to legal fix those positions, to make them permanent and to have enforcement mechanisms.
Also required is, says Lavrov, (edited machine translation):
.. a schedule for the task of de-and desnazifiction in Ukraine, and the lifting of the sanctions, actions, lawsuits and arrest warrants, and the transfer of assets to Russia which are 'frozen' in the West. Also, we will look for reliable warranties for the security of the Russian Federation, and against the threats created by the hostile activity of Nato, the European Union and its individual member states on the country's borders in the west.
There is then no change in the Russian position since its President Vladimir Putin explained it at length on June 14 2024.
Meanwhile the U.S. is very publicly negotiating with Ukraine and Europe about some ceasefire conditions along the lines the pro-Ukrainian (and neo-conservative?) General Kellogg has long promoted (also here):
Kellogg’s implicit assumptions were that Russia is highly vulnerable to a sanctions threat (its economy perceived as being fragile); that it had suffered unsustainably high casualties; and that the war was at a stalemate.Thus, Kellogg persuaded Trump that Russia would readily agree to the ceasefire terms proposed – albeit terms that were constructed around patently flawed underlying assumptions about Russia and its presumed weaknesses.
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All of Kellogg’s underlying assumptions lacked any basis in reality. Yet Trump seemingly took them on trust. And despite Steve Witkoff’s subsequent three lengthy personal meetings with President Putin, in which Putin repeatedly stated that he would not accept any ceasefire until a political framework had been first agreed, the Kellogg contingent continued to blandly assume that Russia would be forced to accept Kellogg’s détente because of the claimed serious ‘setbacks’ Russia had suffered in Ukraine.Given this history, unsurprisingly, the ceasefire framework terms outlined by Rubio this week in Paris reflected those more suited to a party at the point of capitulation, rather than that of a state anticipating achieving its objectives – by military means.
In essence, the Kellogg Plan looked to bring a U.S. ‘win’ on terms aligned to a desire to keep open the option for continuing attritional war on Russia.
In his O Globo interview Lavrov again made it known that Russia can not and will not commit to a temporary freeze of the conflict without having a clear path towards the larger peace agreement.
In sight of this it is funny how Russia has managed to hand the tar-baby of blocking a ceasefire to the (former) Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski.
Despite U.S. pressure for a fast deal Russia does not expect any quick resolution of the conflict. It just announced a new unilateral ceasefire from May 8 to May 10, i.e. around the 80th anniversary of its victory in World War II on May 9.
It is another public sign that Russia is willing to adhere to a ceasefire agreement IF the conditions are right.
Trump still tries to behave like a neutral mediator in a conflict between Kiev and Moscow. He wants to impose a peace deal that projects his personal 'greatness'.
But the U.S. has been and continues to be the main party of the war with Russia while Ukraine is the mere proxy force that does the bleeding. Trump can not impose a fast solution to end the war because he still can not accept that he is a main party in it.
Russia is winning the war. A solution can only be found when the U.S. is ready to (silently) accept its defeat.
Trump can still end the war and declare it a "win". But only if he agrees to the conditions that Russia has laid out for him.
Posted by b on April 28, 2025 at 15:41 UTC | Permalink
next page »Russia has rejected the idea of a freeze for over a year.
We're only talking about this because Trump won't accept that "Nyet" means Nyet,
Noise.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 28 2025 15:50 utc | 2
Trump cannot agree to Putin's terms, they are considered as poison for the US oligarchy and many of the courtier class. Instead, better for him to just do nothing - No arms, no money, no intelligence for Ukraine - and walk away. He does not need the agreement of Congress to sit on his hands. Otherwise he will own the Ukraine War.
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Apr 28 2025 16:03 utc | 4
Only the US could lose a war only to turn around and dictate the terms of peace to the winner. Surprise, surprise! The winner isn't having any of this nonsense.
Posted by: Monos | Apr 28 2025 16:03 utc | 5
...My fear is that the US will use this crisis as an opportunity to attack China one way or another. These seems to a US plan to include NATO, Japan, South Korea and other countries in South East Asia (Australia ???) in those attackplans as well.
Posted by: WMG | Apr 27 2025 17:56 utc | 29
In the context of increasing US military presence in West-Asia and the installation of a terrorist regime in Syria, I can't help but conclude that the current "negotiations" US-Iran are just a delaying tactic by the US side before an attack on Iran. It smells to me like what happened to Lybia and Itak and maybe Yugoslavia. What Trump says is just PR and it's purpose is to keep others confused while something unexpected is being prepared.
Posted by: Richard L | Apr 27 2025 17:57 utc | 30
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Hope it's not bad form to bring these posts forward from yesterday's, 4/27/25, week in review. Ominous bookends.
Posted by: freedom fritos | Apr 28 2025 16:04 utc | 6
@Posted by: Deniz | Apr 28 2025 15:54 utc | 3
Trump is doing The Art Of The Surrender on so many fronts. The only thing he was ever successful at was writing books, starring in a reality show, and getting elected to serve his donors and financial backers (the ones that bailed him out). He would have been better taking his inheritance and sticking it in an S&P500 tracker fund, he was a net loss to his own inheritance. Until he accepted to be fully bought and paid for in exchange for the right to make as much money as possible out of his presidency.
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Apr 28 2025 16:06 utc | 7
Thanks for the posting b. Your last two sentences sum it up
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Russia is winning the war. A solution can only be found when the U.S. is ready to (silently) acceptance its defeat.
Trump can still end the war and declare it a "win". But only if he agrees to the conditions that Russia laid out.
Silent defeat that will be heard around the world as all the details are being seen now.
I can only hope that the Russia 80 year ceremony of the defeat of Nazis will educate some Westerners about the current geopolitical hypocrisy.
Bonfire of the Global Oligarchs is playing on your screen now. Watch, learn and teach your children.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 28 2025 16:09 utc | 8
The fastest way to realize someone doesn't know what they're talking about is their focus on the Kellogg Plan. Keith Kellogg has been marginalized so many times it's a wonder he hasn't resigned. By contrast, Steve Witkoff is able to meet for hours with VVP himself. Either the man has a ravenous appetite for Russian history... or more likely the real envoy is making considerable progress with the leader of Russia.
The "resistance" types are likely to be bitterly disappointed with the fact Russia continues to enact ceasefires, and will deeply resent the compromises VVP is likely to make with the United States. It's too bad for them, really. Just appreciate the diplomacy on display.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Apr 28 2025 16:10 utc | 9
Defeated NATO, may have to defeat America separately as well.
I maintain that the Axis is trying to gently transition the hegemon to normalcy in order to avoid nuclear spillover.
The Americans are psychopaths and due to that, incapable of moral decision making.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 28 2025 16:15 utc | 10
But but … William said in the other thread that Russia agreed to an unconditional ceasefire according to some internet posting of someone.
Posted by: alek_a | Apr 28 2025 16:18 utc | 11
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Apr 28 2025 16:10 utc | 9
None of that is true. Witkoff is on a fools errand - at least as far as getting Putin to budge to the neo-cons proposal. Hed has made no progress whatsoever. Lavrov more or less admitted that nothing was going on to the CBS interviewer.
There are no 'compromises' going to be made. A 2 day ceasefire here and there means very little other than Putin playing with Trump.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 28 2025 16:21 utc | 12
3 day ceasefire? Jeez Louise. I can only speculate that Putin is trying to subtly steer Trump by an image of being reasonable while Zelensky is intransigent on all issues. There could also be some resonance with Witkof in that the "negotiations" with Kellogg are clearly fake and futile. Always allow your enemy to have a way out, even if only an appearance.
Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 28 2025 16:22 utc | 13
Posted by: alek_a | Apr 28 2025 16:18 utc | 11
It's only quarter true , VVP asked for a "pause" on May 9th , general staff agreed, said them won't engage but defend if engaged.
This time Moscow take the kokhols well in advance as the "Easter truce" seems to have been too sudden for the Banderists to react. Anyway it's mostly PR : mines and UXOs will kill like any other days anyway :|.
Posted by: Savonarole | Apr 28 2025 16:31 utc | 14
Trump acts like he’s running one of his hotels and wants everything to be accomplished at the snap of a finger. He is totally oblivious to the mechanics of diplomacy and ending of major conflicts, which can take months or years to finalize. He should have never been elected if we now know that this is how he is going to work everything out, including the tariffs. We are in for a very, very very long and unstable four years with this entire administration.
Posted by: octavian61 | Apr 28 2025 16:41 utc | 15
None of that is true. Witkoff is on a fools errand - at least as far as getting Putin to budge to the neo-cons proposal. Hed has made no progress whatsoever. Lavrov more or less admitted that nothing was going on to the CBS interviewer.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 28 2025 16:21 utc | 12
Yeah, Lavrov does that. He was rather confident in the ability to defend against HTS in Syria, until they took over the country. Thankfully, Witkoff is unlikely to be negotiating the Kellogg Plan with VVP, or he wouldn't be invited back for future meetings.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Apr 28 2025 16:41 utc | 16
Trump cannot agree to Putin's terms, they are considered as poison for the US oligarchy and many of the courtier class. Instead, better for him to just do nothing - No arms, no money, no intelligence for Ukraine - and walk away. He does not need the agreement of Congress to sit on his hands. Otherwise he will own the Ukraine War.
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Apr 28 2025 16:03 utc | 4
I think this sums it up. If he actually wants to free himself of Biden's quagmire, he needs to just cut all forms of support to the Ukrainian dictatorship the US created. But, does he really mean what he says? Very likely Trump is merely pretending he is scandalized with the war to save Ukraine from imminent defeat by way of delays and bullshit theater. Trump plays the autocrat on TV but just look at how beholden he is to Israel, to finance capital. When they say jump, methinks he very privately whispers "how high, master?" then goes on TV and boasts of how nobody controls him and he calls the shots, new sheriff, etc.
I think Russia is right to probe him to see what's really going on, but my sense is Russia will simply have to make gains on the battlefield sufficient to really shock the western ruling class back to the objective reality of the situation we've all recognized from the start: the Ukronazis can never defeat Russia.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 28 2025 16:46 utc | 17
right on b... thank you for articulating all this to which i am in full agreement with...
trump is relying on faulty data and advisors.... the usa bares fully responsibility here for the war on russia via ukraine..
enuf said... thanks..
Posted by: james | Apr 28 2025 16:47 utc | 18
...or they can simply walk away as they are threatening to do
Posted by: Sidj | Apr 28 2025 16:52 utc | 19
Good Morning:
By decision President of the Russian Federation, Supreme Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, By the forces of the Russian Federation Vladimir Putin, for humanitarian reasons, in the days of The 80th anniversary of the Victory from zero hours from May 7 to May 8 to zero hours from May 10 to 11 is announced by the Russian side armistice. For this period, all hostilities are stopped.Russia believes that The Ukrainian side should follow suit.
In case of violations truce by the Ukrainian side, the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation will give an adequate and effective response.
Putin explains the Art of the Deal to Trump.
Posted by: Deniz | Apr 28 2025 15:54 utc | 3
Bullseye! 10/10!
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 28 2025 16:55 utc | 21
Thankfully, Witkoff is unlikely to be negotiating the Kellogg Plan with VVP, or he wouldn't be invited back for future meetings.
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Apr 28 2025 16:41 utc | 16
He is being invited back so that Putin can question him and potentially toy with him as a cat does with an unsuspecting mouse.
If the artless Witkoff is all Trump has up his sleeve then it’s he rather than Z who has no hand to play.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 28 2025 16:57 utc | 22
The May ,9th ceasefire is to avoid country leaders attending from having to answer questions on why they are attending.
Russia will have to grind forwards until they reach Transdnistria via Odessa. 3 years, depending on how much effort and money the Europeans are willing to spend.
The European economies are screwed by their energy costs and increased defence spending.
Two years ago, I spent New Year with my german friends and they asked me for my opinion. I told them to emigrate.
Posted by: Kaiama | Apr 28 2025 17:08 utc | 23
The Truce announcement is unsurprising. Much will be determined based on reaction to it by Russia's enemies. IMO, Rubio is now in a pickle as is Trump. There are many concessions the Outlaw US Empire must make if its relations with Russia are to improve beyond the point they are now at. I expect Zelensky to send as many drones against Moscow and other city celebrations on May 9th as possible. As Putin said in Murmansk on the sub, someone other than Zelensky must be the authority Russia deals with for the final agreement. Perhaps that's what Trump told Zelensky in their chat at the Vatican.
Change in Trumps approach - well it changes from day to day anyway.- Leavitt now calling for a ‘permanent’ ceasefire, which is a new demand as far as I understand?
Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 28 2025 17:11 utc | 25
1. Slowing down makes sense because Ukraine is on hte verge of ripping itself to pieces.
2. Hinting at ceasefires, if only for a couple of days, means recruiting for Ukraine just became quite impossible, and there will be serious issues in keeping existing troops in place given that the battle is lost and fighting is clearly futile now.
3. Is a Kiev collapse a good thing for Ukraine and for Russia? I think yes, but others may disagree.
Posted by: Mickey Droy | Apr 28 2025 17:20 utc | 26
Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Apr 28 2025 16:41 utc | 16
"Yeah, Lavrov does that. He was rather confident in the ability to defend against HTS in Syria, until they took over the country."
I don't think that the ability of the Syrians (supported by Russia) to defend against HTS is in any doubt. What happened was that the Syrian army refused to fight. The Russians rightly refused to take over the defence of the country entirely.
Posted by: Jan Sobieski | Apr 28 2025 17:22 utc | 27
Proxy or no Proxy. The USA started it and EU just obey. The psycopaths americans has no moral and never had. Bush, Obama, Biden, Trump are the same rat that transport the plage. And all of them came from the same place. Now that Russia is winnig diplomacy must come and 100.000,00 deade russians waste their liver to what? To the next 100 thousands or more take their place?
Posted by: Paulo | Apr 28 2025 17:23 utc | 28
Trump acts like he’s running one of his hotels and wants everything to be accomplished at the snap of a finger.
Posted by: octavian61 | Apr 28 2025 16:41 utc | 15
Isn't trump just a front man with no actual decision making ability, at least with foreign policy ? Isn't he just a creepy showman producing fictional content providing cover for undisclosed plans ? As such can you infer much from his words or do you have to observe actions ?
Posted by: natrat | Apr 28 2025 17:25 utc | 29
Trumps 10 day ultimatum (I assume that is what it was) to Zelensky in Rome expires just before May 9, the 80th anniversary of victory over Nazism.
Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 28 2025 17:28 utc | 30
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 28 2025 16:09 utc |
Oligarchs? Ukrainian Oligarchs? Russian Oligarchs? Saudi Oligarchs? Norwegian Oligarchs? Sausage Oligarchs.......lol! Even them good ole' boy redneck Texan
Oil Barons lol!
What a load of naive guff and fannywash!
Take a deep breath and get a grip FFS!
Posted by: abiotic | Apr 28 2025 17:29 utc | 31
Posted by: Kaiama | Apr 28 2025 17:08 utc | 23
> Two years ago, I spent New Year with my german friends and they asked me for my opinion. I told them to emigrate.
To emigrate where?
Posted by: hopehely | Apr 28 2025 17:32 utc | 32
If the artless Witkoff is all Trump has up his sleeve then it’s he rather than Z who has no hand to play.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 28 2025 16:57 utc | 22
I still maintain that Trump has always expected the talks to fail and the "shit sandwich" minerals deal was the obvious tell. He just needed to make a big show of talks to mollify the neocons and justify walking away... as he's intended to do from the start.
IMHO Witkoff isn't there to push the Ukrainian line; they'd have sent Kellogg for that. Witkoff is there laying the groundwork for the post-SMO relationship between the US and the USSR. He's a businessman, not a diplomat.
And yes, William and his ilk (like #9 above) will keep fervently projecting their own weaknesses on Putin.
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 28 2025 17:33 utc | 33
Lavrov‘s list of peace requirements is essentially identical to the Dec 2021 Proposal.
Orginal Document
https://archive.org/details/russia-draft-agreements-nato-usa-december-2021
Posted by: Exile | Apr 28 2025 17:34 utc | 34
3. Is a Kiev collapse a good thing for Ukraine and for Russia? I think yes, but others may disagree.
Posted by: Mickey Droy | Apr 28 2025 17:20 utc | 26
Yes, it's a good thing for everyone other than the warmongering clowns heading the EU.
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 28 2025 17:39 utc | 35
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 28 2025 17:33 utc | 35
I don’t think Witkoff is pushing the Ukraine line but I do think whatever it is he is working on is not getting anywhere.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 28 2025 17:39 utc | 36
As usual Russia does what is in the interest of Russia and we are supposed to be surprised or disappointed. For right now, with an ongoing war, Russia can routinely treat any troops in Ukraine as enemy combatants. If Russia agrees to any sort of truce, regardless of what the rules are, it would invite other nations moving troops in because it would be politically difficult for Russia to do anything about it. Once in country they would be difficult to dislodge and Russia could end up being blamed as the aggressor in an expanded war. What it amounts to is that Russia would be very ill-advised to agree to any sort of truce until Russia has taken all the territory it intends to take. After that perhaps something could be worked out.
Posted by: Jmaas | Apr 28 2025 17:44 utc | 37
Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 28 2025 17:28 utc | 31
> Trumps 10 day ultimatum (I assume that is what it was) to Zelensky in Rome expires just before May 9, the 80th anniversary of victory over Nazism.
That victory was so great that Russia is now super busy denazifying its front yard.
Posted by: hopehely | Apr 28 2025 17:46 utc | 38
Lavrov does not talk about the confidential details of negotiations, until these are finished. Witkoff is pretty much tight lipped as well. Zelensky uses the technique of "leaks" to try to control the negotiations. Kellog is just for the "snap, crackle and pop" in your breakfast cereal.
What's the deal with the blackouts in Spain and Europe...sabotage or failure?
Posted by: Beobachter II | Apr 28 2025 17:37 utc | 37
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What difference — at this point, what difference does it make?Hillary Clinton, May 8, 2013
Its better to ask what is the cure.
Posted by: too scents | Apr 28 2025 17:49 utc | 40
I don’t think Witkoff is pushing the Ukraine line but I do think whatever it is he is working on is not getting anywhere.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 28 2025 17:39 utc | 39
The biased MSM is only focusing on the Ukraine aspect which (again) is not supposed to go anywhere. It's a charade and a mis-direct but a necessary cover. The important thing most are missing is that the US & Russia are talking and will continue to do so long after the idea of a Ukrainian peace plan dies.
That's another one of my arguments against the so-called "continuity". The prior administration would never talk to Russia.
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 28 2025 17:49 utc | 41
The situation is exactly as predicted, the result of "slow-grind" approach in which a defeated group of neocons could, through a lame duck congress, extend the war long enough to force a newly installed president to accept all of the blame for the western loss in Ukraine.
This is what the Hillary/Cheney/Obama/Team-Biden most fervently desired. Thus, those who perpetrated this crime will win enough of congress back in 2026 to keep the war going to it's bitter end and in so doing insure they resume full power in 2028. They, Hillary/Cheney/Obama/Team-Biden..et.al, correctly calculated that Trump's vanity and glorification of generals would initially paralyze this Administration from doing the "right-thing", namely, dumping Langley's "botched" WARXU, [War Against Russia in x-ukrainia].
Lt. Gen [ret] Kellogg, appears every bit an agent of team Hillary/Cheney/Obama/Team-Biden, he came to his position through Mike Pence as a replacement to Gen Flynn. It's fair to say that Lt. Gen [ret] Kellogg's actions vis-à-vis Trump indicate that he is willing to inflict great pain upon this nation/world in order to see Trump's team removed from power. It also appears that he learned nothing about the limits of power from his Viet Nam experience...
It's odd to see the Kremlin working hand and glove with it's sworn enemies [Hillary/Cheney/Obama/Team-Biden..et.al] at the expense of somebody who wants to do business with Russia but, that is the reality of the "slow-grind" tactic. Much blame to go around, too much for those with term a myopic world view...
Posted by: S Brennan | Apr 28 2025 17:50 utc | 42
Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 28 2025 17:46 utc | 42
Come on be serious
He couldn’t (probably Still can’t) even name the regions in question.
He seemed surprised that Putin expected no article 5 assurances for the rump.
The guy is only in the mix because Trump precisely none of the likes of Rubio amd Walz.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 28 2025 17:50 utc | 43
I agree with Crooke:
"Is Trump really going to wash his hands of Ukraine? Doubtful, given that the U.S. neo-conservative institutional leadership will tell Trump that to do so, would weaken America’s ‘peace through strength’ narrative. Trump may adopt supporting Ukraine ‘on a low flame’ posture, whilst declaring the ‘war was never his’ – as he seeks a ‘win’ on the business front with Russia."
Russia needs to double down on its partnership with China. There's no working with Imperialism.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 28 2025 17:52 utc | 44
Posted by: Stonebird | Apr 28 2025 17:46 utc | 42
> Kellog is just for the "snap, crackle and pop" in your breakfast cereal.
You eat cereal for breakfast? What are you, a bird?
Posted by: hopehely | Apr 28 2025 17:56 utc | 45
BBC Radio's David Brown interviewed Kurt Volker yesterday on the subject of Trump's First 100 Days. The topics discussed included a Ukraine ceasfire, VVP and Trump's expertise.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 28 2025 17:58 utc | 46
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Apr 28 2025 13:50 utc | 251
RE: are you making stuff up
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Dude, step back.
DJT has stirred a hornet's nest in the Pentagon by breaching protocol through his self-appointed/self-chosen/self-endorsed representative Sec Hegseth.
And guess what---it was *not* Sec Hegseth's speech during his Brussels *shocker* before NATO that has ruffled feathers in the Pentagon.
It was Sec Hegseth's dismissing certain high-ranking Generals from their posts, like Charlie Brown: "no longer relevant," Sec Hegseth explained.
After that, to make things worse, Sec Hegseth has shown a willingness to push diplomacy w/ Iran instead of bombing them, which is aligned w/ DJT's initiative.
So the ones who have "ruffled feathers," including the U.S. NATO commander Gen Cavoli, who badly wanted to get those B-52s into action against Tehran, are targeting Sec Hegseth in order to *weaken* DJT or even nullify his effectiveness.
Signal-gate was only the pretense. Besides which, it was Mike Waltz who *accidentally* included Jeffrey Goldberg, not Sec Hegseth.
Signal-gate was the pretext to damage Sec Hegseth in order to debilitate DJT and potentially, had they succeeded w/ their gambit, force DJT to dismiss Sec Hegseth.
Stick w/ me, man. I've got the deets.
If you know, you know
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 28 2025 18:02 utc | 47
"Putin's new May 8-11 ceasefire is a test of Trump's end of war proposal: can he enforce a reciprocal Ukrainian ceasefire -- if he can't, no Kremlin deal"
https://x.com/bears_with/status/1916849707525058587
Posted by: JohnGilberts | Apr 28 2025 18:17 utc | 48
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 28 2025 16:09 utc |
Oligarchs? Ukrainian Oligarchs? Russian Oligarchs? Saudi Oligarchs? Norwegian Oligarchs? Sausage Oligarchs.......lol! Even them good ole' boy redneck Texan
Oil Barons lol!
What a load of naive guff and fannywash!
Take a deep breath and get a grip FFS!
Posted by: abiotic | Apr 28 2025 17:29 utc | 32
Take deep breath an GFY
Posted by: Tannenhouser | Apr 28 2025 18:17 utc | 49
Thus, those who perpetrated this crime will win enough of congress back in 2026 to keep the war going to it's bitter end and in so doing insure they resume full power in 2028.
Posted by: S Brennan | Apr 28 2025 17:50 utc | 45
LMAO, the SMO will be over long before the mid-terms. Ukraine's already resembling 1945 Germany.
[Third time trying to post this.]
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 28 2025 18:21 utc | 50
Posted by: Deniz | Apr 28 2025 15:54 utc | 3
Lol! That's a good one.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Apr 28 2025 18:23 utc | 51
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Apr 28 2025 16:03 utc | 4
Me thinks that ship's sailed.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Apr 28 2025 18:27 utc | 52
Posted by: JohnGilberts | Apr 28 2025 18:17 utc | 52
RE: VVP testing DJT's *resolve*
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Also, note that this *longer* ceasefire, announced w/ sufficient lead time for *interested parties* to prepare, allows the UK, France & Denmark to scurry into Odessa w/ some Reassurance Forces, ready & willing to monitor the *ceasefire*
This is indeed a Heat Check on the part of VVP.
Who *prances*-?
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 28 2025 18:27 utc | 53
This is indeed a Heat Check on the part of VVP.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 28 2025 18:27 utc | 57
Heat check for VVP, or honey trap for EU?
These actions are all meant to expose & embarass the warmongers while embellishing Russia as the only adults in the room
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 28 2025 18:38 utc | 54
Trump thought that playing Good Cop to Biden's Bad Cop would entice the Russians to surrender.
But Russia knows that both cops are playing for the crooks and criminals trying to destroy Russia, and isn't falling for the plan.
Anyway, it's ridiculous to play the Good Cop while openly supplying the bad guys, right out in the open where everyone can see.
Posted by: wagelaborer | Apr 28 2025 18:48 utc | 55
"Laughing my ass off, the SMO will be over long before the mid-terms"
- TJandTheBear 54
Confident predictions of "Russia-quickly-sweeping-the-battlefield" have been a frequent feature of this war. Eventually, somebody's prediction will be right, particularly if they make the prediction daily...as they have for the past 3 years.
Sadly, and I stress sadly, the war "grinds" on in spite the cheerleader's best efforts at waving their pom-poms.
Posted by: S Brennan | Apr 28 2025 18:51 utc | 56
He was rather confident in the ability to defend against HTS in Syria, until they took over the country. Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Apr 28 2025 16:41 utc | 16
They took over the country because the west bribed top commanders to stand down. The easiest way to take over a country is by bribing the military.
That's what Germany did to so many European countries in WW2 and what the US did in Iraq.
It didn't work in the USSR, because Stalin fired the bribed generals, which still causes great anguish and squawking from the ratline nazis in the west, who wail about the poor accused generals who were removed from power.
It worked in 1991, though, when the US bribed the top bureaucrats and military to dissolve the USSR.
Money talks.
Posted by: wagelaborer | Apr 28 2025 18:55 utc | 57
One thing to bear in mind, looking at the (body) language and movements at the Pope's funeral, is that both France and the UK are heavily invested with both feet stuck in the mud already. Macron was near panic that a "comprehensive" ceasefire is necessesity. Sure it is - is it to extract their troops? Starmer is implied as an arrogant empty incompetent by his own UK military command.
Without a "ceasefire" that allows them to change the situation by bringing in arms, or retreating, (not just a temporary stop in the shooting) both F and UK are now on the front line willy-nilly as combatants. Both expected that the US would "have their backs".
Other countries; Poland with the highest number of "mercenaries", are in a similar situation. No Geneva conventions to protect them and no way to disengage easily.
Not having a Russian "freeze" will put strains on the EU delusions of military "grandeur".
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In other news, Estonia has brought back horse mounted cavalry, (?) and another of the Balkan statelets has terminated a recent contract for 5'000 sabres. (for their "pre-victory" celebrations think.)
Today B says Russia is winning the war. I remember him saying many times over the last year that Russia has already won the war. I guess he was right about that in the same way he was right about North Korean troops being nothing but US propaganda.
How I miss the days when B provided some semblance of objective analysis. Now all we get is rehashed Putin propaganda.
Posted by: Zargo | Apr 28 2025 18:57 utc | 59
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 28 2025 18:38 utc | 58
RE: heat check-?
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It is a Heat Check VVP is administering in order to see if the perennially over-eager UK, French & Danish step into the trap by trying to rush their Reassurance Forces in.
Additionally, Zelensky could sneakily *agree* to a mutual 72-hour ceasefire but then during hour 17 *invite* the UK, French & the Danish to send their Reassurance Forces into Odessa in order to protect the ceasefire.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 28 2025 18:59 utc | 60
"Russia is winning the war. . ."and the offensive on Pokrovsk that was initiated in July 2024 will be successful any time, any month, any year now.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 28 2025 19:03 utc | 61
61 - Colonel Cassad's website mentioned some months back a Ukrainian attempt to bribe Russians to give up some ground, I think in Donetsk Oblast. It failed and the Kiev attempt to advance there was repulsed. I posted a comment in Russian wondering whether they tried the tactic because it has succeeded on other occasions, perhaps explaining this or that setback in the SMO. The comment did not go down well and in fact my permission to comment on that website was withdrawn. My question was serious, though - bribery and corruption is just another weapon like any other, especially for NATO.
Posted by: Waldorf | Apr 28 2025 19:07 utc | 62
Trump’s deal making getting nowhere ...
Never witnessed someone walking away taking so long …
Ukrainians are unwilling to sign off on any option losing territory as of today. No permanent truce in the offing … hate increased by the day if that is possible … total madness and Trump’s war to lose now.
100 Days of Boasting and pulling wool over the eyes of voters who are no fools next [mid-term] election.
Trump can not impose a fast solution to end the war because he still can not accept that he is a main party in it.
Trump appears to think he can pose as a mediator, but strictly speaking, he can't fool others, not that he can't stop fooling himself. I'm pretty sure even Trump knows that the Ukrainians have no path to victory. And he still seems to be just as committed to a deal with Russia to undermine its alliances with Iran and PRC. I don't think Ukraine can be both the drain in Spain (as it was for Bonaparte) and a minor wound Russia can let fester with a frozen front, not at the same time. Maybe that's what Trump can't accept?
Posted by: steven t johnson | Apr 28 2025 19:13 utc | 64
Confident predictions of "Russia-quickly-sweeping-the-battlefield" have been a frequent feature of this war.
Posted by: S Brennan | Apr 28 2025 18:51 utc | 60
The "quickly" part has only been NAFO-speak such as the West-originated "3 days to Kiev" tripe. The result's always been inevitable.
Me stating "well before the mid-terms" still gives 18 months which is half-again the 36 month SMO to date, and Ukraine really doesn't look like it could last even half that.
Check the battlelines in WWII Jan 1945 vs. May 1945. As Hemingway stated... "gradually, then suddenly".
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 28 2025 19:14 utc | 65
Trump is an Imperialist Zionist and Witkoff is just a Trojan Horse attempt to bamboozle Putin while the real policy is the Deep State (Kellogg) Plan. Putin and Trump use Witkoff to politely raise the middle finger at each other. Kellogg is still kicking, stronger than ever, which tells you all you need to know.
Posted by: JustTruth | Apr 28 2025 19:15 utc | 66
After DJT’s confab in St. Peter’s Basilica, the Come To Jesus Moment Heard Round The World, Sec Rubio and Minister Lavrov spoke. The Russian readout did not appear until today, but after the anodyne comments about how the two sides are working productively, blah, blah, blah, came this sentence @ the end of the readout: “Building on the productive meeting between Steve Witkoff and President Putin on 25 April, the Secretary and the Foreign Minister highlighted and reinforced the emerging conditions necessary to launch negotiations aimed at establishing a reliable framework for long-term sustainable peace.”
Not only does this make clear, from the Russian perspective, that the 25 April meet-up between VVP and Witkoff sort of snagged at an impasse, but it also makes obvious that Russia finds deficiencies on the U.S. side in the U.S.’s *ability* at this point to even “establish a reliable framework” for engaging in this caliber of negotiation.
VVP says, “Listen, Steve, you’ve put some good ideas into this plan, and we can work with you. But until Donald can consolidate his leadership and act in unison with all his assets, whether in the Pentagon or in Europe, we find it impossible to pitch in with your plan.”
In other words, VVP comprehends the vicissitudes of U.S. policy right now, and its instability. He knows even a change in the midterm elections in 2026, which could conceivably bring in neocon hawks intent on impeaching DJT, might put Russia’s security interests regarding Project Ukraine in jeopardy.
After committing so robustly to the SMO, VVP has no incentive to cast his lot w/ such precarity.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 28 2025 19:19 utc | 67
I'd suggest that it's not particularly Trump holding back a realistic peace solution. Keep in mind the Minerals Deal and Trump thinking Blackrock taking control of the Panama Canal is an American Victory. When Russia completes the SMO and especially if they take Odessa, then the value of Ukraine as a profit center evaporates:
Why a Land-Locked “Rump” Ukraine Would Hold Little Appeal for Western Capital
Black Sea access drives returns. Roughly 90 % of Ukraine’s grain, metals and bulk cargo have always moved through Odesa–Mykolaiv ports. Losing them eliminates the deep-water export channels that made big-ticket port, LNG and green-energy concessions attractive. Logistics costs on replacement rail/truck routes into the EU soar 30-50 %, wiping out margins.
Privatisation pipeline collapses. Planned sales or PPPs for ports, offshore gas blocks, hydrogen corridors and coastal tourism assets vanish into Russian control. Without those high-value deals, BlackRock’s reconstruction vehicle shrinks from a prospective $100 bn platform to a niche donor-aid fund with far smaller fee potential.
Industrial heartland lost. The Donbas coal–steel complex and the 6 GW Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant—key IPO candidates for Western investors—would be outside Kyiv’s control, further draining the asset pool.
Land-locked penalty. World-Bank data show systemic freight delays and higher costs for land-locked economies; that drives down internal-rate-of-return assumptions and investment multiples.
Investor behaviour.
BlackRock: may keep a token advisory role, but without scalable, FX-earning hard assets the IRR falls below its private-capital hurdle.
Vanguard & State Street: passive funds will hold only tiny index weights—economically negligible.
Bottom line: Strip away the coast and industrial east and the very assets Western financiers hoped to privatise or refinance disappear. The remaining, land-locked Ukraine offers too little scale, too much logistics friction and too few headline deals to justify large Western-capital deployment; the anticipated “windfall” all but evaporates.
Posted by: AmericanIconoclast | Apr 28 2025 19:23 utc | 68
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Apr 28 2025 16:06 utc | 7 Trump writes books? Trump is his own ghost? Wow!
Posted by: steven t johnson | Apr 28 2025 19:27 utc | 69
The Hill
President Trump shared his thoughts on how his two terms as president have differed, saying in a new interview with The Atlantic that this time around he’s leading “the country and the world.”
“The first time, I had two things to do — run the country and survive; I had all these crooked guys,” Trump said in the interview published Monday. “And the second time, I run the country and the world.”. . .here
See, Russia (and China) are out of this world.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 28 2025 19:28 utc | 70
Day 1162 of the SMO and the head of the snake is still alive.
Posted by: Naive | Apr 28 2025 19:31 utc | 71
Posted by: JustTruth | Apr 28 2025 19:15 utc | 70
RE: Gen Kellogg is still kicking
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Gen Kellogg is still kicking, because he is a fundamental instrument of The Directive, which is the Deep State's laser-focused intention to crush Russia, regime-change Russia & dismember Russia.
This has been The Directive's goal since at least Clinton, though it may actually have begun during the latter part of Bush Sr's admin.
So Gen Kellogg is an *instrument* of The Directive. As such, he is still kicking--but he is not strong.
He is not strong because VVP has not budged off his SMO objectives, or those reiterated on 14 June 2024. In fact, VVP concluded his vid-link discussion w/ Gerasimov by stating that the success of the military in Kursk Region bodes well for "the destruction of the neo-Nazi regime in Kiev."
Tell me how Gen Kellogg, who remember is just a tool, an instrument, is *strong* against that sentiment.
The strength of The Directive, however, is its longevity---having been put in place during Bush Sr, perhaps, as I mentioned. Its longevity means it, The Directive, has persisted over numerous administrations and through numerous defeats. Put another way, it *persists* though it has not attained its goal.
The goal of The Directive is to crush Russia, regime-change Russia & dismember Russia.
None of which has happened.
None of which has ever come *close* to happening.
Yet, The Directive persists.
Many before Gen Kellogg have tried & failed. He will join that cohort.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 28 2025 19:32 utc | 72
Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 28 2025 19:28 utc | 74
He is a megalomaniac psychopath.
Posted by: Naive | Apr 28 2025 19:32 utc | 73
“Building on the productive meeting between Steve Witkoff and President Putin on 25 April, the Secretary and the Foreign Minister highlighted and reinforced the emerging conditions necessary to launch negotiations aimed at establishing a reliable framework for long-term sustainable peace.”
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 28 2025 19:19 utc | 71
"Reliable framework for long-term sustainable peace" has always been Russia-speak for reining in NATO overall and not just Ukraine.
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 28 2025 19:33 utc | 74
Sudden shiver like icy water on my neck: DJT's birthday is 14 June...
On 14 June 2024, VVP laid out his stone-cold Unbreakables/Unbreachables regarding the SMO.
Trembling @ the synchronicity.
Wondering if Saturn is retrograde-?
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 28 2025 19:36 utc | 75
Posted by: Naive | Apr 28 2025 19:31 utc | 75
> Day 1162 of the SMO and the head of the snake is still alive.
Yeah, it is time to turn SMO to GMO.
Posted by: hopehely | Apr 28 2025 19:36 utc | 76
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 28 2025 19:33 utc | 78
RE: "Reliable framework for long-term sustainable peace" has always been Russia-speak for reining in NATO overall and not just Ukraine.
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Something about the precarities of Project Ukraine under DJT's inimitable stewardship may have prompted the Russians to *expand* the definition-?
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 28 2025 19:39 utc | 78
Just a thought but Everybody Here Try To Stay Alive And Healthy for about the next two years. It looks really, really exciting.
There's this weird synchrony in the world right now with Western leaders flirting with disasters so obvious that you have to wonder about their sanity: Trump, Starmer, Macron, Merz, Zelensky, Netanyahu. We could enter a really crazy period of months or even just days in which the whole world kind of flips geopolitically. Good Times........
Posted by: Eighthman | Apr 28 2025 19:41 utc | 79
December 2021 set things, the way to reach it is still open.
Posted by: Newbie | Apr 28 2025 19:57 utc | 80
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The Americans are psychopaths and due to that, incapable of moral decision making.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 28 2025 16:15 utc | 10
Psychopaths are a bit too disorganized, unless you are dealing with sub clinical type - prevalence 1.7%. Add of Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) - estimated to affect between 6.2% of the general population, higher in clinical settings. 17% maybe. Add in psychological Machiavellianism and you have the Dark Triad.
People with Dark Triad personality traits are drawn to and can sucede in the modern beaurocratic state because they have a ready source of Narcissistic supply. So the prevalence is higher in such jobs and yet even higher at the upper eschalons where policy is made. A study on this theses would be interesting, but getting funding would be ... er ... problematic.
The American system of governance had limits built into it that made Narcissistic supply difficult to come by (Maybe as a reaction to the narcisstic traits of the bipolar George III), but that part of the US federal system changed in the 1930's. So the US forever wars beginning in the 1950s beurocratization should really be no surprise. But it is.
Dark Triad types in charge of the US government have killed 1.5 million human beings in the Ukraine, as a matter of recent history. Yet, there is no recognition this could be even a part of the problem. Government solves problems and behaves altruistically at all times, after all.
Posted by: frithguild | Apr 28 2025 20:27 utc | 81
Daily DS map update: https://deepstatemap.live/en#6/49.4383200/32.0526800
Overall: More muh stalemate, with 0.0 kmsq gained by RFA, within Ukraine.
Specific: Only change was an RFA advance within Belgorad (i.e. Russia). Does not count to progress, as I did not count the loss before either.
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 28 2025 20:31 utc | 82
but that part of the US federal system changed in the 1930's.
Posted by: frithguild | Apr 28 2025 20:27 utc | 85
Nice post, although I'd push the original sin even further back to the Federal Reserve Act of 1913.
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 28 2025 20:31 utc | 83
Russian truce from May8 -May11 is another clever move.
The wheels are coming off.
Posted by: Suresh | Apr 28 2025 20:31 utc | 84
William providing us with a welcome absence. Its clear that Lavrov's statements and Trumps frustrations have put a spanner in his works
Posted by: Night Tripper | Apr 28 2025 20:34 utc | 85
Russian long range missiles should be deployed to DPRK ahead of a quiet technology transfer. A deal can be made by South Korea and Japan to avoid it that includes normalization of trade with Russia.
Resistance to the proposed May 7 to 11 ceasefire comes from the inability to accept the fact that the Soviet Union won WW2 on this date in 1945. Some losers can't accept this historic fact. The defeat of Nazism and the victory of Russia.
However if I were Stalin I would have stopped the war after securing the borders of the SU. Let the others battle it out with Germany. They won't. Germany could have taken over the UK and along with it its empire. A true and beautiful attrition war between Germany and its colonies verses USA. Popcorn!
Posted by: Jason | Apr 28 2025 20:37 utc | 86
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 28 2025 19:32 utc | 76
Well 1933 was when the Rockerfellers and friends started to finance the rearming of Germany with the goal of destroying Russia so I would give that as the start date.
Posted by: Badjoke | Apr 28 2025 20:39 utc | 87
In preparation for the ceasefire, Russia should bomb Ukrainian assets HARD, slaughter as many as possible. That way, hopefully ukraine forces will be too crushed to attempt anything during the ceasefire.
And if ukraine manages to retaliate during the ceasefire, bomb them to smithereens as a legitimate response.
Posted by: Featherless | Apr 28 2025 20:41 utc | 88
notorious german tabloid bild (of the axel springer variety):
"Putin verkündet Waffenruhe für seine Protz-Parade"
"Putin announces ceasefire for his ostentatious parade"
the may 9th parade is not only a reminder of the victory against the naizs of old, but also a reminder of all the victims due to germanys actions (lovingly supported by britain etc at the beginning).
"european values".
Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 28 2025 20:49 utc | 89
My question was serious, though - bribery and corruption is just another weapon like any other, especially for NATO.Posted by: Waldorf | Apr 28 2025 19:07 utc | 66
Arguably, bribery and corruption are 'NATO's main weapon. The political control of so many countries was achieved solely through surveillance coupled with blackmail and bribery. Without this political yoke, the populaces of the vassal states would have long since changed tack. Witness the pretend 'fight' over tarriffs with Canada when they're still keeping punitive anti China EV sanctions and buying F35s..
They're not stupid politicans, they're paid or blackmailed to be exactly this way. How? Think patriot act and how most internet services since 2000 are geolocated in the US or five eyes countries and there's your answer.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Apr 28 2025 20:50 utc | 90
What's the deal with the blackouts in Spain and Europe...sabotage or failure?
Posted by: Beobachter II | Apr 28 2025 17:37 utc | 37
Everything which can happen sooner or later happens.
If you drive a car without a spare tire, sooner or later you are stranded at the side of the road.
Posted by: Passerby | Apr 28 2025 21:01 utc | 91
Featherless | Apr 28 2025 20:41 utc | 92
you have a sick mind. killing people who have little or nothing to do with the hostilities is cruel and senseless. Had you suggested a decapitation strike taking out the billionaires calling the shots...I could get on board with that.
“Why of course the people don't want war. Why should some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally the common people don't want war neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship.Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.”
Posted by: dan of steele | Apr 28 2025 21:03 utc | 92
"The political control of so many countries was achieved solely through surveillance coupled with blackmail and bribery."
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Apr 28 2025 20:50 utc | 94
Not solely. Propoganda is also a big part of it. It works on a lot of useful idiots in regime-change operations.
Posted by: Spectator | Apr 28 2025 21:03 utc | 93
I'd push the original sin even further back to the Federal Reserve Act of 1913.
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Apr 28 2025 20:31 utc | 8
A big part of it all, no doubt about that.
Posted by: frithguild | Apr 28 2025 21:04 utc | 94
The grid blackout in Europe is reported to be due to “anomalous atmospheric conditions”.
This translates into the onset of summer and Spain’s switch to renewables, as a result of which on sunny days Spain’s solar generation exceeds demand and electricity prices go negative.
Mismatch between demand and supply causes frequency instability.
An alternating current grid requires that all generators are synchronised and produce alternating current which is in phase and at a stable frequency. If the frequency departs too far from 50Hz, equipment can be damaged, and circuit breakers trip to prevent damage.
Solar panels and windmills produce direct current which has to be converted to alternating current via invertors.
That alternating current has to be in phase with the grid current, which becomes problematic if there are large fluctuations in output caused by clouds obscuring solar panels or highly variable wind speeds.
Electricity generation by large thermal power stations using steam turbines is inherently more stable than renewables because the rotating parts can weigh many tons and the inertia of the rotating parts significantly inhibits frequency changes.
What happened was a cascade effect, once circuit breakers tripped, demand exceeded supply, frequency dropped and there was a chain reaction.
In summary, Europe is even more f—-d than we thought, renewables are the problem, not the solution.
Posted by: CitizenSmith | Apr 28 2025 21:05 utc | 95
After the proxy war, the phoney peace talks. All this is only stalling. The real crunch will come with the trade war with China. The impact will take a few more weeks for sales stats but the money is on Beijing coping better...
Posted by: Gerry Bell | Apr 28 2025 21:14 utc | 96
Night tripper @ 22
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More or less my thought.
The longer Putin spends with Witkof, the more he, Putin, learns.
Putin may be playing good cop with Witkof.
And seducing Witkof into a form of Stockholm Syndrome.
Posted by: Jane | Apr 28 2025 21:26 utc | 97
Posted by: CitizenSmith | Apr 28 2025 21:05 utc | 99
After the crash, Spain was at zero electricity production.
The grid was powered up again from the north (connection with France) and the south (connection with Morocco).
Posted by: Passerby | Apr 28 2025 21:27 utc | 98
Further to my post of 21.05 (currently 99).
Once electricity prices go negative, the rational businessman with a gas, oil, coal, or hydro plant will cease generation as soon as the plant can be shut down. This obviously leads to even more grid instability.
Renewable generators have price protection built into their contracts, for which the consumer pays heavily.
Posted by: CitizenSmith | Apr 28 2025 21:33 utc | 99
Posted by: CitizenSmith | Apr 28 2025 21:05 utc | 99
You need to read more. What you just said is spaghetti.
The unplanned and haphazard way new sources have been installed is the problem not the sources themselves.
BTW the FQ output from the inverters does not drop when available power drops. The ability to carry load does. If it gets too low it shuts off. It does not dip in FQ. Had the system actually been designed rather than slapped together by idiots there would be adequate pumped hydraulic storage to deal with drops in load. Instead they will probably slap on some giant battery packs cost ten times as much and gas a neighborhood when they catch fire.
Also most modern grid backbones utilize high voltage DC and don't have a frequency. But Europe is backwards and probably still has ancient transforming stations that should have been recycled for the copper 20 years ago.
Posted by: Badjoke | Apr 28 2025 21:50 utc | 100
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