Palm Sunday Attacks On Sumy And Al-Ahli
In yesterday's week-in-review I had linked to a missile attack on the Ukrainian city of Sumy:
Russia launched a missile attack on the center of Sumy. More than 30 people were killed - Strana
Machine translation:
This morning, the Russians fired two ballistic missiles at the center of Sumy. 31 people were killed, including 2 children.84 people were injured, including 10 children.
The Prosecutor General's Office reported that at about 10:15, the Russian military launched two missile strikes on the center of the city of Sumy. Rescue operations are continuing, the number of victims is being specified.
One of the pictures Strana provided showed the destroyed congress center of the Sumy State University .
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Shortly after the incident the Member of the Rada Mariana Bezuglaya accused the military command of staging a ceremony in the city despite it being less than 20 kilometer from the active fighting front (machine translation):
Mariana Bezuhla (Mariana Bezuhla) @marybezuhla - 9:32 UTC · Apr 13, 2025Russia shelled the center of Sumy on Palm Sunday. Appeal to Syrsky and separately to the TrO commander: do not gather the military for awards, and even more so in civilian cities-again, the Russians had information about the cluster. And the polygons are still being plotted...
Don't build, don't do "reward and build" so that your scoop and you with it will be cursed!
SBU: another information leak.
No one has been punished for previous cases. For example, after the tragedy with the award ceremony in the 128th brigade, no one has yet been handed suspicion. Therefore, Brigade Commander Lysyuk is the godfather of General Zubanich...
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Mr. President, is this OK for you? Keep silent and keep scoops??? They don't draw conclusions! They don't draw conclusions, Mr. President!
Mariana Bezuhla has some notoriety for having insider information from the Ukrainian military. She has for some time argued for the removal of the Ukrainian Commander in Chief General Syrsky.
She later added:
Vinnytsia, Chernihiv, Poltava, Dnipro, Sumy. All cases are similar. In between, there are hundreds of other Russian cynical attacks directly on civilians, but there are cases where the enemy received information about the military in major cities. It is impossible not to draw conclusions! The enemy is trying to take every chance!
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We cannot put up with the indifferent heads of some administrations who send out information about meetings in an open way, and then remain in their positions — as has happened several times before.
Her tweet included a propaganda picture of the 117th Territorial Brigade.
Bezuhla was not the only politician to speak out:
MP Mariana Bezuglaya, former MP Ihor Mosiychuk and Mayor of Konotop Artem Semenikhin said that the missiles arrived at the award ceremony for the military of the 117th territorial Defense Brigade, which is fighting in Sumy region and just today marks the anniversary of its creation. Bezuglaya and Mosiychuk say that there may have been a leak of information when sending out invitations to the event.Moreover, Mosiychuk said that civilians were also invited to the event. Including children.
"I hope that in Sumy they are already detaining the head of the Internal Affairs Service Artyukh and MP Ananchenko (MP from Sumy from the ruling Servant of the People party- Ed. ), who so wanted to make a splash at the festive awarding of soldiers of the 117th TrO brigade on the occasion of the seventh anniversary. Artyukh, Ananchenko promoted the award ceremony in Sumy and gathered there, in addition to the military, also civilians, in particular children! Scum and scum! " - wrote Mosiychuk.
At the same time, Konotop Mayor Artem Semenikhin called Governor Artyukh "scum and scarecrow" and called on him to "get down on his knees and apologize to people" before 18:00. He also said that he was on the spot at the time of the impact and "draped" from there, "knocking down children." He called on the governor and the head of the regional SBU to resign.
Today news appeared of several high ranking military casualties:
Colonel Yurii Yula, commander of the 27th Rocket Artillery Brigade named after Ataman Petro Kalnyshevskyi, was killed in a Russian missile attack on the city of Sumy on 13 April.Source: Berdychiv City Council; Suspilne, a Ukrainian public broadcaster, with reference to Berdychiv District Military Administration; Ukrainska Pravda sources in the defence forces.
The 27th Rocket Artillery Brigade is the only Ukrainian unit that is officially equipped with HIMARS, the U.S. missile system which is used to fire long range missiles into Russia. It is headquartered in Sumy. The U.S. military would regard its commander a 'high value target'.
Today the Russian Ministry of Defense announced:
Yesterday, the Russian Armed Forces launched two Iskander-M operational-tactical missiles in conditions of heavy electronic warfare countermeasures and foreign-made air defence systems in action to hit the site in Sumy where commanding officers of the Seversk task force had a meeting. More than 60 servicemen of the Armed Forces of Ukraine have been eliminated.The Kiev regime continues to use the Ukrainian population as a human shield by deploying military facilities and carrying out activities involving servicemen in the centre of the densely populated city.
The facts thus seem to be clear. There was a ceremony planned for the seventh anniversary of the founding of the 117th Territorial Brigade. This was to take place in the congress center of the Sumy State University. Medals were to be presented for the recent participation of the brigade in the attack on the Russian oblast of Kursk. Invitations to the commanders of neighboring units were sent out.
Russia's Foreign Minister Lavrov hinted that 'western' military official were also there:
We have facts about who was at the facility that was hit in Sumy - Lavrov"There was another "meeting" of Ukrainian military leaders with their Western colleagues, who were either under the guise of mercenaries, or I don't know under the guise of who," the head of the Russian Foreign Ministry emphasized."
The Russian military got wind of the event and destroyed the congress center (pics) with two Iskander missiles. There were military and civilian casualties. But under the rules of war the strike was on a legitimate target.
European politicians widely condemned the attack as having been on civilians. President Trump called the attack a "mistake".
Neither the New York Times nor the Washington Post report of the military target of the Russian attack. Both emphasize that the attack took place on Palm Sunday.
Two missiles hit the city center about 10:15 a.m., according to the regional prosecutor’s office. Ukraine’s interior minister, Ihor Klymenko, said the ballistic missiles struck when the streets were crowded with civilians out enjoying Palm Sunday, a Christian celebration popular in Ukraine. At least 83 people were injured, Mr. Klymenko added.
The attack on the city’s downtown area occurred on Palm Sunday, as families flocked to church to mark the beginning of Holy Week ahead of Easter. Volodymyr Artyukh, head of the Sumy regional military administration, said Russia launched two ballistic missiles at the city.One hit “an ordinary city street” in Sumy, which sits just 18 miles from the Russian border, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky wrote on Telegram.
In another attack yesterday Israel destroyed one of the last hospitals in Gaza.
The New York Times has only a short video of the attack:
Israeli Strike Heavily Damages One of Gaza’s Last Major HospitalsNo one was killed in the attack on the Ahli Arab Hospital, but a child being treated for a head injury died from the rushed evacuation, according to the Anglican Church in Jerusalem, which oversees the medical center.
The Washington Post report is better (archived):
The Israeli military bombed the last fully functional hospital in Gaza City early Sunday, medics there said, giving patients, doctors and displaced Palestinians sheltering on the grounds only 20 minutes to evacuate before it struck and destroyed key parts of the facility.More than 200 people — 88 patients and 120 staff members — were at al-Ahli Hospital when its reception received a call from the Israeli military telling them to leave the building shortly before 2 a.m. local time, according to the facility’s medical director and an American orthopedic surgeon volunteering at the hospital.
The al-Ahli hospital is provided for and administered by Christian institutions. But neither paper thought it necessary to emphasize that the illegal attack on the obviously civilian target took place on Palm Sunday.
Only deep down its piece does the Post insert a quote which mentions it:
“The Diocese of Jerusalem is appalled at the bombing of the hospital now for the fifth time since the beginning of the war in 2023 — and this time on the morning of Palm Sunday and the beginning of Holy Week,” the Baptist Church in Jerusalem said.
The Russian attack on a legitimate military target is depicted as a war crime. That it took place on Palm Sunday is emphasized.
The illegitimate Israeli attack on a civilian health care institution is treated as somewhat normal. Despite its direct relation to Christian heritage and care there is no explicit mention that it took place on Palm Sunday.
This is an example of how propaganda inserts religion when it helps to condemn an "enemy" but leaves it out when it reports of the outrage committed by a "friendly" force.
Posted by b on April 14, 2025 at 15:27 UTC | Permalink
next page »Unless you are the victim of a moral narrow-mindedness (and there seems to be an epidemic of this defect nowadays), it should be obvious to you that Israel has descended into barbarism. Why barbarism? Because in Israel, cruel, murderous, and otherwise criminal behavior has become state policy.
Posted by: HandSignals4TheBlind | Apr 14 2025 15:41 utc | 1
NYTimes & WaPo are a disgrace. Everyday they misinform the electorate leading good people to make bad decisions/policy and facilitate evil people's misdeeds. In this manner, both institutions and their masters at Langley betray their county and enable foreign and domestic enemies of the US.
Posted by: S Brennan | Apr 14 2025 15:49 utc | 2
I've said it before, but it is worth repeating:
If the "West" didn't have double standards, it wouldn't have any standard at all.
Posted by: ThirdWorldDude | Apr 14 2025 15:57 utc | 3
I always tell my daughter to read MoA for articles just like this one. Hats off, b!
You cut through the obfuscation and focus the lens on the sleight of hand.
Posted by: lex talionis | Apr 14 2025 15:57 utc | 4
The Russian attack on a legitimate military target is depicted as a war crime. That it took place on Palm Sunday is emphasized.
The illegitimate Israeli attack on a civilian health care institution is treated as somewhat normal. Despite its direct relation to Christian heritage and care there is no explicit mention that it took place on Palm Sunday.
This is an example of how propaganda inserts religion when it helps to condemn an "enemy" but leaves it out when it reports of the outrage committed by a "friendly" force.
Posted by b on April 14, 2025 at 15:27 UTC | Permalink
Up is down, peace is war... we all know the drill
But that's the diet the whole west is fed and that is what they end up believing (though I think its a matter of time for the IDF dissonance to hold)
Meanwhile, as we're discussing dates and narratives, it's fun to see the "don't go to moskow, they're celebrating the defeat of the nazis, but we're still here!"
It would be ridiculous if it wasn't sad
Posted by: Newbie | Apr 14 2025 15:58 utc | 5
The sub-human Zio-Monsters, have form when it comes to bombing hospitals - killing the sick, and killing the medical staff who are there to help the sick - the Western media whores, who are also sub-human for pumping out pro-Zio-Monster propaganda, turn my stomach - the West is now ran by sub-human monsters.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 14 2025 15:59 utc | 6
thanks b..
Mariana Bezuhla is absolutely right... that is on ukraines leadership and instead they will probably want to destroy mariana bezuhla..denial is a powerful force... speaking of which - israel is commiting genocide on palestinians and the west turns a blind eye.. we live in a messed up world.. thanks for your work and shining a light on this... keep it up!
Posted by: james | Apr 14 2025 16:06 utc | 7
...and the beat goes on. Western and Ukie disinformation sources are hard at it again, reminding me of a cat scratching around in the litter box after committing pussbusiness...doing their worst to cover up the evidence. Blame is cast on Russia by means of invoking "children casualties while misdirecting the real impact of the missile strikes...a certain percentage of ranking Uke and "allied" personages.
What gets me is why the eff did the Ukes hold that ceremony in Sumy, just a few number of miles from the battlefront. Was it sheer stupidity or something else...deliberate sabotage from within elements of the Kiev regime?
Russian intel was evidently all over this situation. It could have been electronic stuff, satellite tells or even humanintel. In any event, the R.U. is developing what is currently the most highly developed military apparatus that the world has known up to this point in time.
When mud season is finally kaput, expect some long-anticipated bold big arrow moves. Will those incursions develop on a limited front...or all along the now rapidly collapsing Ukrainian lines?
Posted by: aristodemos | Apr 14 2025 16:06 utc | 8
Quote from Trump aboard Air Force One: "I think it was terrible. And I was told they made a mistake. But I think it’s a horrible thing."
Who in the White House is telling Trump lies?
Posted by: Passerby | Apr 14 2025 16:06 utc | 9
@ aristodemos | Apr 14 2025 16:06 utc | 9 - quote
"deliberate sabotage from within elements of the Kiev regime?" good question... it sure looks like it..
Posted by: james | Apr 14 2025 16:07 utc | 10
the West is now ran by sub-human monsters.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 14 2025 15:59 utc | 7
No, they're human ll right, but not very good at that.
We can't exclude them of the human race for being SOBs, but we should put them on trial and see them hang.
You don't hang animals, that would be cruel.
Monsters? Even that distorts the level of banality of evil involved (which is much more worrying). Greed, narcissism, vanity, and an (un)healty dose of being impervious to other people's suffering or basic decency.
Sometimes the biggest error is to refuse to see how the smallest of faults in humans is enough for the worst consequences.
Posted by: Newbie | Apr 14 2025 16:08 utc | 11
@ Passerby | Apr 14 2025 16:06 utc | 10
the same bozos who read nyt, wapo and etc. etc.. - when you are feeding on garbage - garbage in - garbage out... trump is a dunce if he can't see this staring him in the face.. my guess - he is a dunce..
Posted by: james | Apr 14 2025 16:09 utc | 12
Demilitarization of dumb Ukraine going well, I'd say. They should gather more often to award themselves medals and shit and send bulk messages to everyone with invitations and feel secure with their electroning jamming and AD systems.
Fatfaced Ottonov: say chief, ain't it dangerous to gather and shit?
Jawless Fritzensky: say wha'? No it ain't no fucking dangerous and shit we have defenses nig ...
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Apr 14 2025 16:09 utc | 13
Demilitarization of dumb Ukraine going well, I'd say. They should gather more often to award themselves medals and shit and send bulk messages to everyone with invitations and feel secure with their electroning jamming and AD systems.
Fatfaced Ottonov: say chief, ain't it dangerous to gather and shit?
Jawless Fritzensky: say wha'? No it ain't no fucking dangerous and shit we have defenses nig ...
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Apr 14 2025 16:09 utc | 14
Speaking of which, that is something RF has failed to do!
Plant an idea for a ceremony, hell even pay for the place, get a couple of idiots to front the thing, send the invites and then iskander the place.
In cases like sumy, kharkiv, kherson, etc they could even put a laser beacon on top of the venue and just send a couple of KAB-500 or KAB-1500. Much cheaper.
Posted by: Newbie | Apr 14 2025 16:30 utc | 14
Posted by: HandSignals4TheBlind | Apr 14 2025 15:41 utc | 1
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Israel was founded on barbarism. BTW, it's how America was founded as well.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 14 2025 16:38 utc | 15
Help me remember---but it has never been the case that the Russian military gathers its medal recipients in obviously civilian areas, or even in harm's way.
We have seen Gerasimov pin medals on chests, and we have seen VVP visit HQ, whether in Kurak Region or in Donbass, but in no instance have troops standing at attention for such events been positioned as easy-to-locate targets.
I'm remembering a New Year's Eve hit on a dormitory southeast on the Crimean land-bridge, when a Russian soldier turned on his cellphone, thus providing the AFU w/ a signal for guiding in a missile attack.
A quantity of troops were housed in that dormitory---it may have been on the campus of a former college---but it was not in a civilian space.
Sadly, I'm getting that "human shields" vibe from the Zelensky regime, as if they would willingly sacrifice their soldiers & innocents---but especially innocents--in order to provide a ready-made narrative about Russian brutality.
In fact. I'm wondering if this was a *dry-run* for the style of False Flags we'll see if UK and French Reassurance Forces station themselves in Ukraine.
Wherever the Reassurance Forces position themselves, the Kiev regime will make certain that a plenitude of innocents are adjacent.
Diabolical Bankhova designs these kinds of False Flags specifically to make it seem that Russia has unleashed its inner barbarism when in reality the desperate regime in Kiev has baited a trap, as it were.
That "60 Minutes" sit-down w/ Zelensky, who lambasted VVP for ruthlessness, came together pretty quickly, when you consider that the Sumy missile attack happened on Sunday morning, Kiev-time, and then got fluffed up throughout the day by the Regime Media, which then gave "60 Minutes" a grand opportunity to amplify it further w/ an interview in the evening highlighting Zelensky, who no doubt was handed a script of what to say.
"Brutal"? Check
"Aggression"? Check
"Inhumane"? Check
"Civilians"? Check
It was Bucha redux.
It was a way for Kiev to *win* the news-cycle.
BTW: 300 AFU/NATO mercs are kettled in an Orthodox church on the very edge of the Kursk Region. These are the last remnants of straggling hold-outs. Russia had been sending in a priest to serve as a negotiator, carrying messages back and forth.
The AFU/NATO mercs murdered the priest in the church on Sunday.
(Military Summary published a good 5-minute focus on this overnight.)
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 14 2025 16:38 utc | 16
Not above Ukrainian dignity, to have organised the Sumy attack themselves. Set up a big military ceremony, stage it on Palm Sunday, for maximum effect, send out invitations to civilians, tell them to bring the kids, make it all public enough, that the Russians know about it.
Then fake surprise! Oh my God, the Russians attacked! There you go, you have your PR operation for the week.
Posted by: Shahmaran | Apr 14 2025 16:40 utc | 17
Just a possibility that came to my mind.
Might the Ukraine regime not have deliberately organized an event with children invited, and then on purpose have leaked to the Russians that there was to be a military award ceremony?
Everything to raise a scandal again. And with Sumy close to the border, the children will probably be Russian speaking or even ethnically Russian, so the regime would not care at all.
Maybe even done on the behest of Israel, to which the regime has the warmest of links, or on order of GB, which controls large part of the Ukrainian "state" to deflect attention away from the genocide in Gaza.
Posted by: Ronald Portier | Apr 14 2025 16:43 utc | 18
the West is now ran by sub-human monsters.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 14 2025 15:59 utc | 7
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Do not take this personally, but it is always a big moment when a child realizes that its parents are fallible and possibly bad people.
The Crusades were inhuman. The 20th century World Wars were inhuman. The Opium Wars, the colonialization of India. The twice-nuking of Japan on the eve of surrender. Dipping bullets in pigs' blood in the Philippines. The invasions of Iraq, Afghanistan, the destruction of Syria, and Libya. Agent Orange in Vietnam.
None of it was done with love and benevolence in people's hearts.
I don't think most individuals from those powers are responsible, but I do think that people who openly support regimes that commit these heinous acts become complicit.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 14 2025 16:46 utc | 19
"Bezuglaya and Mosiychuk say that there may have been a leak of information"
Who in the White House is telling Trump lies?
Posted by: Passerby | Apr 14 2025 16:06 utc | 10
These are two examples of propaganda. The second is a type spread by asset Marty from Amerika, "he doesn't know, he isn't told, but he's so great and not involved in Ukr at all, only evil europeans are." The first is that only a leak, a traitor, can have this result and is presented by Ukros who pretend to leak info to the public themselves, to make it more believable. But why? Russia has no surveillance or spies or what? It was not even a secret meeting in a secret place. Only if they invite Bono to sing on a stadium it can be more public.
The third very obvious propaganda these days is with the shot down f16. There are all sorts of fantasies on tg channels and comments. How it was targeted by 3 different systems, how they shot many missiles to hit it and so on. It's very amusing. When is Trump sending the alien technology weapons to Zeli? Energy beams form space?
Posted by: rk | Apr 14 2025 16:47 utc | 20
The Ukrainian Nazis have no limits. Watch how this event was used and draw your own conclusions about what happened.
Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 14 2025 16:50 utc | 21
Now they are piling up: reports of the deaths of Ukrainian officers in Sumy. (Simply search on X for Yuriy Yula, for example).
Posted by: xblob | Apr 14 2025 16:53 utc | 22
When is Trump sending the alien technology weapons to Zeli? Energy beams form space?
Posted by: rk | Apr 14 2025 16:47 utc | 21
Soon, but maybe elon passed on something to RF (half joke, half serious, previous attempts were nullified and elon was quite proud of how they had dealt with the problem)
https://tass.com/politics/1943467
Technology to jam Starlink signal begins to be used in Kherson Region — governor
This technology has already started to be deployed, and the effects are already being felt, Vladimir Saldo stressed
GENICHESK, April 14. /TASS/. A technology designed to jam the Starlink satellite communication signal, which the Ukrainian military has been using for various purposes - including targeting and adjusting HIMARS MLRS strikes - has begun to be successfully implemented in the Kherson Region, Governor Vladimir Saldo has told TASS.
"Our military and scientists, along with our allied countries, have developed a technology to jam Starlink systems. The effectiveness of missiles and long-range UAVs will diminish. This technology has already started to be deployed, and the effects are already being felt," Saldo stated.
Starlink is a global satellite communication project developed by SpaceX, a company founded in 2002 by Elon Musk. Musk himself remarked in early March that Starlink is the backbone of the Ukrainian army, and if it were to be shut down, Ukraine's entire frontline would collapse.
Posted by: Newbie | Apr 14 2025 16:53 utc | 23
Trump says something stupidly off the mark as expected. Recall that the whole of the war against Ukraine still remains the fault of Russia unprovoked according to US government and NATO officials.
Posted by: Chaka Khagan | Apr 14 2025 16:54 utc | 24
Blue & yellow propaganda, whether concerning maternity hospitals in Mariupol or cadavers positioned cinematically on the streets of Bucha or playgrounds in Sumy, have not & will not turn the tide in Project Ukraine.
The adversary, lacking military advantage, augurs for narrative benefit.
The longer DJT plays with his food in Project Ukraine, the more riven his team grows. The Waltz, Gen Kellogg, Sec Rubio fragments were a large chunk of that. Gen Kellogg in particular cleaved off a lot of the team, when he returned from Bankhova/10 Downer and presented a pro-Ukrainian plan which Russia would never cop to.
It proposed an area beyond the Dnipr extending all the way to the Polish border as a NATO stronghold. It stood in abject contrast to the Witkoff plan, which is a variant of Istanbul+, along the lines of what VVP laid out in June 2024. DJT *wants* a normalization of ties w/ Russia, but Sir Keir, Macron and others in Europe are hell-bent on thwarting that. They use Gen Kellogg like a wedge to split DJT’s like cordwood.
Moscow sees that there are major rifts among the senior most members of DJT’s team, and the Russian counterparts—-VVP, Lavrov, Ryabkov, Demetriev, et al—-will proceed cautiously forward diplomatically but keep the pedal to the metal for their unfolding Sumy offensive.
“For that war to have started was an abuse of power,” DJT said on Sunday night aboard Air Force One on his way back to Pennsylvania Ave from Mar-a-Lago. “This is Biden’s war. He gave Ukraine billions and billions’ worth of weaponry. He started it. I want to end it.”
The fact is this: DJT, w/ a phone call, could stop the war by nightfall. Keep in mind that the congressional legislation authorizing the war funding (the $61 billion from last April) states that supplying the weaponry is at the president’s discretion.
The Gen Kellogg, Waltz, Sec Rubio, neocon constituency has strengthened, however. Like Honeybadger Steve Bannon said back in January: if you stay with this war, you’ll own it. DJT, in a “put up or shut up” position, is owning it and wearing it—and Project Ukraine is not something one wears well.
The UK and France in particular have been desperate to position a token NATO force inside Ukraine. Gen Kellogg is their key to stationing a tripwire battalion or two which will tantalizingly provide a casus belli for widening the war, eventually obligating the U.S. to backstop their *flail*
All of which will intensify the Narrative Management in the West.
It will play well in the echo chamber Regime Media, populated by the likes of The Economist, the nytimes, WSJ & the WaPo and also the FT, but the war has persisted for more than three years, and the Regime Media has yet to score an outright 'W' for Ukraine, other than of the rhetorical variety.
Remind me again---how many divisions does the Regime Media have-?
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 14 2025 17:11 utc | 25
"Journalist of the Year" in Ukraine is challenging Zelensky
My name is Diana Panchenko.Read the rest of here story in this link https://x.com/Panchenko_X/status/1793996165765034457I’m TV-host and “Journalist of the Year” in Ukraine. I used to be among Ukraine’s top 10 most influential women.
@ZelenskyyUa calls me his personal enemy.
And unsurprisingly, Professor Glenn Diesen speaks with her:
Diana Panchenko: How Zelensky Dismantled Ukraine's Democracy
Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 14 2025 17:16 utc | 26
Constipation Prize: The only war which the Kiev regime is winning is their alliance with the Western disinformation propaganda networks, such as 60 Minutes. Their actual demise is inevitable and metaphorically similar to the sand swiftly descending down the hour-glass. Thus, this entire hoo-ha of inviting families to the Sumy situation was likely a setup, being one more last-ditch attempt to influence world, but particularly American boobtoob noose addicts.
Something about that strategy...it's not gonna work. Even previously deluded country folk in my neck of the great outdoors are rapidly losing faith in the mass media of misinformation...and the precious narratives about "Holy" Yidistan and wonderful Ukraine. Trust for each and every institution across the fruited plain is swirling down the drain.
Like old Abie Baby said back in the Civil War days: "You can't fool all the people all the time". The real Great Awakening is arriving on schedule.
Posted by: aristodemos | Apr 14 2025 17:19 utc | 27
During the War to Destroy Yugoslavia, NATO et.all. staged numerous atrocity provocations. It’s a long standing pattern. T
It wouldn’t be surprising if the grandpas in the 117th Territorial Brigade were Russian speakers. Expendable.
Posted by: Exile | Apr 14 2025 17:25 utc | 28
Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 14 2025 17:16 utc | 27
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Panchenko is very smart and courageous.
She's been talking a lot about Ukrainian corruption during the SMO for 2 years.
That is dangerous in a Nazi country where telling the truth is a capital crime.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 14 2025 17:25 utc | 29
Actually it is quite simple. It’s not newsworthy for Israel to kill civilians. It’s expected at this point. We all know it. It’s not a headline grabber. When some die in a Russian attack it’s more unique.
Posted by: WG | Apr 14 2025 17:30 utc | 30
After having seen the Zionazi's leveling whole Palestinian and Lebanese apartment buildings, leveling a whole apartment complex with hundreds of civilian deaths just to assassinate one person they don't like, their Zionazi leadership publicly gloating about it (Yoav Gallant); I almost stopped caring about the other "collateral damage", always in a vastly lower scale, whom according to Western MSM I'm supposed to care about.
Posted by: xor | Apr 14 2025 17:48 utc | 31
Posted by: WG | Apr 14 2025 17:30 utc | 31
Spoken like a real poster-boy of corporate propaganda (lamestream media = LSM) dinosaurs!
What b is trying to convey above is that the LSM is engaged in "on-demand" weaponization or neutering of its delivered propaganda, depending on who the reported culprit is and whether it's a friend or foe, and that dimwits like yourself are unquestioningly swallowing that narrative hook, line and sinker...
Posted by: ThirdWorldDude | Apr 14 2025 17:58 utc | 32
>> giving patients, doctors and displaced Palestinians sheltering on the grounds only 20 minutes to evacuate before it struck and destroyed key parts of the facility
While most of the western mainstream media seem to think it is perfectly fine to bomb anything and everything to smitherens as long as "civilians" have been give prior warning, one wonders if the same would apply if, say, Bin Laden had dropped a bunch a leaflets half an hour before 9/11. If Iran politely asked all Israelis to kindly evacuate their country by sunrise on Friday so they could nuke the main military, intelligence and government buildings. And all airports, hospitals and water treatment centers that may have been used by military, government, or intelligence officials involved in the attacks on Gaza, Lebanon or Syria. If Putin asked the Ukrainian government to evacuate Kyiw by Easter Monday evening, so Russia can destroy any infrastructure with military use.
It wouldn't? Didn't think so.
Also, if the point of blowing up hospital was to kill Hamas leaders allegedly hiding there: Wouldn't they be long gone when the bombs fall, 20 minutes after the announcement?
Let's face it: those "warnings" are half cynical propaganda ploy, half devious instrument of terror.
Posted by: Marvin | Apr 14 2025 17:59 utc | 33
This event demonstrates how savvy the Ukies really are — they know on what side the bread is buttered.
They effectively provoke Russkie strikes on urban infrastructure, killing civilians. . . It is on camera after all.
Then after the Anglos use the psyop-factor, to further entrench the Eurotrash and deflect from Gaza atrocities, the Ukries blame themselves! I—it wasn’t a plot by big-brother but rather are own stupidity. Clever of them.
Posted by: Nothingburgers | Apr 14 2025 18:01 utc | 34
@LoveDonbass | Apr 14 2025 17:25 utc | 30
To all: Watch the whole interview with Diana Panchenko, but if you select not to watch it, please see the last 2 minutes of the video. You will be shocked.
Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 14 2025 18:04 utc | 35
...please see the last 2 minutes of the video. You will be shocked.Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 14 2025 18:04 utc | 36
i am still angry about the little baby carriage beeing left on the streets. as a father of three, my blood boiled when i saw this the first time.
even my wife screamed at the screen.
everyone should show this part alone to anyone that defends the actions of the kiev nazi regime and its nato enablers. because that is how much they value human life. eu values.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 14 2025 18:10 utc | 36
Thanks for once again illuminating the hidden realities so obscured by the western msm - on the Sunday Sumy strike. Good also to note by contrast - their ho hum coverage of the Genocide state's most recent malevolent attack on the Gaza hospital. One could also include US attacks on the civilian population of Yemen, and the recent massacre of a tribal EID gathering there.
Here's more:
RT News - April 14, 2025 (1700-MSK)
https://www.rt.com/shows/news/615699-rtnews-april-14-17msk/
"Moscow says a Russian missile strike killed over 60 Ukrainian servicemen in the city of Sumy on Sunday, while noting that Kiev uses civilians as human shields. Russia's foreign minister reveals that Western military staff were also at the scene..."
Tarik Cyril Amar: The Sumy Missile Strike: War, Propaganda & Hypocrisy
https://www.rt.com/russia/615744-sumy-strike-war-propaganda/
"Russia's attack on a gathering of Ukrainian servicemen [and Western military staff] has become immediate fodder for the information offensive against Moscow. Those who pretend that this was a deliberate attack on civilians are either disinforming, disinformed or both."
Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 14 2025 18:30 utc | 37
Posted by: Norwegian | Apr 14 2025 18:04 utc | 36
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Thanks.
I had already seen those clips on YT. Between Gaza and Ukraine, every day is a battle to dissipate my rage.
It's a cruel world.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 14 2025 19:02 utc | 38
DJT is using the occasion of his Oval sit-down w/ the visiting president from El Salvador to explain to the press corps that "Zelensky should never have started a war with Russia."
Doesn't this just give DJT a massive way to fly in the face of that "60 Minutes" interview last night w/ Zelensky, who was crying big crocodile tears about how pervasive the Kremlin's Talking Points are in the U.S.-?
"When you start a war," DJT said, as the president of El Salvador sat patiently by on the chintz-upholstered chair, "you got to know that you can win the war. You don't start a war against somebody that's 20 times your size and then hope for people to give you some missiles."
Speaking of Zelensky, DJT said, "He's always looking to buy some missiles."
Naturally, DJT could not resist reminding everybody gathered in the Oval that he was the first to deliver Javelins to Ukraine, the first president to greenlight lethal weapons. Reminders like this are just to cement DJT's bona fides.
My thoughts: comments like these, seemingly off-the-cuff but you've got to believe DJT designated *who* would ask this particular question in order for him to vent his spleen a bit---comments like these make me believe the over/under is trending in Witkoff's favor as opposed to the neocons' favor when it comes to resolving Project Ukraine.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 14 2025 19:08 utc | 40
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 14 2025 19:08 utc | 41
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I find it amusing that MAGAs can't put 2 and 2 together to understand that once Trump leaves office, they will be the ones getting renditioned to other countries by a future government.
People cheering on the loss of their liberties (as few as they are).
Every weapon that you can use, your enemies can (and will) use against you.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 14 2025 19:13 utc | 41
Posted by: HandSignals4TheBlind | Apr 14 2025 15:41 utc | 1
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Israel was founded on barbarism. BTW, it's how America was founded as well.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 14 2025 16:38 utc | 16
There are critical differences in the founding of the US and Israel. To equate the two, is a succor to Zionism.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 14 2025 19:23 utc | 42
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 14 2025 19:23 utc | 43
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Tell that to the Apache, if you can find any.
It's the same brutal colonial mentality. A supremacist and exceptional mentality that justifies any mass acts of violence because the indigenous aren't people, they are barely bugs (Amalek).
You'd have a leg to stand on if this pattern of Anglo barbarism hadn't been repeated all over the globe for centuries. America is not an isolated example, it is just the most successful one.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 14 2025 19:40 utc | 43
Good to state the facts .... as noted in earlier threads ... but always worth repeating ...
On the propaganda - doubt anyone in this bar is surprised ...
Trump has zero interest in factual detail - whether he receives it or not - and probably the latter.
That said, it would not surprise me if Budanov et al set this up for its propaganda impact - and the military genius who organised it should be sacked for wanton stupidity.
Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 14 2025 19:45 utc | 44
There are critical differences in the founding of the US and Israel. To equate the two, is a succor to Zionism.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 14 2025 19:23 utc | 43
Critical similarities count too. No? Same vibe diff tribe.
Posted by: Tannenhouser | Apr 14 2025 19:53 utc | 45
Love Donbass #16
Here's your quote: BTW, it's how America was founded as well.
Outrageous & incorrect. US broke ties with Brits, 1776. Final state ratified constitution 1780. And you suggest the founding of America was barbaric?
Don't like the US? OK, that's fair. But don't lie.
JP Straley
Posted by: JP Straley | Apr 14 2025 19:54 utc | 46
@ Don Firineach | Apr 14 2025 19:45 utc | 45
set this up for its propaganda impactThis is a relatively common notion regarding Russian strikes on "civilians" nowadays, from what I've seen around TG channels and other comments.
I personally do not see what PR benefit anything like this can achieve after three years of reports, interviews, viral claims of "everything Russian is inherently evil". They have been pushing that Russia has invaded to "kill all ukrainians" since the beginning.
Going all-in with propaganda (and sanctions) too early fucked them, because it wasn't supposed to have lasted more than a few months. There are plenty of people in 404 who grew numb to this bullshit, perhaps more than in EU as a whole.
Perhaps this could've been for the sake of EU warmongering then, that would make some sense. I answered my own implied question eventually, I guess.
Posted by: boneless | Apr 14 2025 19:57 utc | 47
Posted by: JP Straley | Apr 14 2025 19:54 utc | 47
Query. At which point did genocide become not barbaric? Lie all u want to me, but lying to oneself?
Posted by: Tannenhouser | Apr 14 2025 20:01 utc | 48
the bothersome nature of the comments on this thread is that all parties seem to have accepted War, state produced misinformation, corrupt leadership, monopoly powers in private hands and on the ground behind the trees Terror by both state and private actors as acceptable nation state and big daddy monopoly powers behaviors.
What happened to human rights ?
Humanity has failed to rise against this massive beast, the nation state system..
Posted by: snake | Apr 14 2025 20:04 utc | 49
the bothersome nature of the comments on this thread is that all parties seem to have accepted War, state produced misinformation, corrupt leadership, monopoly powers in private hands and on the ground behind the trees Terror by both state and private actors as acceptable nation state and big daddy monopoly powers behaviors.
What happened to human rights ?
Humanity has failed to rise against this massive beast, the nation state system..
Posted by: snake | Apr 14 2025 20:04 utc | 50
I think the benefit - and also the intention - with the Western media & authorities' pretending that Russia is constantly targeting civilians, is to make the Western populations more positive to sending all their tax money meant for welfare to the corrupt regime in Ukraine.
It works.
Posted by: Avtonom | Apr 14 2025 20:13 utc | 51
@boneless | Apr 14 2025 19:57 utc | 48
Yes you did ... Mr Appledorm-Sikorski especially and Merz bringing out his Taurus from his Blackrock back pocket .... I could go on ... but I won't
Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 14 2025 20:21 utc | 52
@35 Nothingburgers
This
"Then after the Anglos use the psyop-factor, to further entrench the Eurotrash and deflect from Gaza atrocities, the Ukries blame themselves! I—it wasn’t a plot by big-brother but rather are own stupidity."
@51 snake
"Humanity has failed to rise against this massive beast"
...probably because it is being consumed by it.
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 14 2025 20:24 utc | 53
@ Norwegian | Apr 14 2025 17:16 utc | 27
thanks for that and the interview with glenn diesen.. appreciate it..
Posted by: james | Apr 14 2025 20:29 utc | 54
A double tap attack would have been better on Ukraine's HIMARS HQ.
Posted by: Jason | Apr 14 2025 20:30 utc | 55
DS map dropped early:
https://deepstatemap.live/en#6/49.4383200/32.0526800
Overall: Another weak day for the RFA, only taking 8.5 kmsq within Ukraine. Lot of single-digit days.
Specific changes, S to N:
1. Fields N of Rozdolne (Velyka Novasilka sector).
2. Shrinking of the Guevo pocket in Kursk.
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 14 2025 20:39 utc | 56
Outrageous & incorrect. US broke ties with Brits, 1776. Final state ratified constitution 1780. And you suggest the founding of America was barbaric?
Posted by: JP Straley | Apr 14 2025 19:54 utc | 47
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I say the founding was barbaric and its barbarism continues with 3 genocides today (Palestine, Yemen, Sudan).
Not to mention the thousands and thousands of civilians who starve under illegal American sanctions right now.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 14 2025 20:40 utc | 57
from telegram:
Polish Foreign Minister Sikorski on Putin laughing at Trump:"I just want to say that I am shocked by the latest wave of Russian attacks on Ukraine. Ukraine agreed to an unconditional ceasefire over a month ago. The vile attacks on Krivoy Rog and Sumy are Russia's mocking response.
I hope that President Trump and the US administration will understand that the leader of Russia is laughing at their good will, and I hope that the right decisions will be made."
P.S. I like how they never mention it was an energy ceasefire deal
they just keep on bullshitting, and the "highly educated" idiots swallow it.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Apr 14 2025 20:40 utc | 58
Anything by the NeoWarriors and their crews at the newspaper industry to push Hump more and more into a confrontation with Russia. And you have many citizens who do not possess any semblance of critical thinking or brains, for that matter, to stop this madness that our government officials have created and are taking us down the road to a full blown out war with the largest members of BRICS.
Posted by: Jose Garcia | Apr 14 2025 20:47 utc | 59
@Justpassinby | Apr 14 2025 20:40 utc | 59
Anne Applebaum, uber-Russophobe and arch-neocon, wears the trousers in Sikorski's marriage ....
Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 14 2025 20:50 utc | 60
2. Shrinking of the Guevo pocket in Kursk.
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 14 2025 20:39 utc | 57
You're a very naughty boy, the km2 don't include the kursk oblast
And some of the more interesting advances are still grey.
Posted by: Newbie | Apr 14 2025 20:51 utc | 61
What predated our modern social institutions was tribalism. Tribes were a collection of related people. They were made up of families that were members of an extended family that had perhaps affiliated with other extended families. Because everybody was related to everybody, the only way of joining a tribe for an outsider was to be adapted or marry into one of the family groups.
Because of the social organization, other than rare instances, it wasn't possible to become a member of a tribe. Thus when tribes went to war in the ordinary way, the war was gynocidal. The goal was not to conquer territory, but to drive off or kill everybody in the the tribe. For that reason our ancestors, as brutal as they were, regarded tribal warfare as worse than their warfare because it was.
Israel, in its current efforts against the Palestinians, is conducting a form of tribal warfare.
Posted by: Jmaas | Apr 14 2025 20:56 utc | 62
Israel, in its current efforts against the Palestinians, is conducting a form of tribal warfare.
Posted by: Jmaas | Apr 14 2025 20:56 utc | 63
Yep. Today it's a tribe from poland/Crimea (today's Israeli) against jews and catholics from Roman times (today's palestinian)
Posted by: Tannenhouser | Apr 14 2025 21:03 utc | 63
62, right, duh. Should the RFA lose more Russian territory, so they can regain it and count that? They are supposed to be invading the other country.
If it's gray now, it will eventually go red. Where's the gray from yesterday that should have gone red today? Bottom line is over last 4.5 months, rate of advance has been lousy. If RFA was really rolling, DS would be forced to show it. But they're not. Stuck at the same crappy interchange E of Pokrovsk, for instance for several months.
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 14 2025 21:05 utc | 64
Two unrelated comments:
1- very few Israeli's believe that the current course of action is being taken to improve the security situation; but rather for personal benefit. Meaning the IDF, Shabak, and Mossad do not support the actions - just following orders to let the people who show up to serve protect the ones whose god tells them they don't have to.
2- why does anyone bother to claim Russia is not achieving their goals. More likely you just don't understand the Russian priorities.
Posted by: Polli | Apr 14 2025 21:13 utc | 65
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 14 2025 21:05 utc | 65
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This is an SMO, not an invasion.
If it were an invasion, the Russians would have already erased Kiev and Lvov.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 14 2025 21:14 utc | 66
b, you are the bees' knees.
This reminds me of analyses done by Noam Chomsky re East Timor vs. Cambodian atrocities:
"Yes, Noam Chomsky, along with Edward S. Herman, conducted a comparative analysis of media coverage in their book The Political Economy of Human Rights (1979), specifically comparing the East Timor atrocities with the Cambodian genocide under Pol Pot. They argued that the U.S. media extensively covered the Cambodian atrocities, which were committed by an official enemy (a communist regime), while largely ignoring the East Timor atrocities, where the U.S. and its allies were complicit due to their support for Indonesia’s invasion and occupation starting in 1975.
Chomsky and Herman highlighted that the East Timor invasion, which led to an estimated 200,000 deaths (about a third of the population), received minimal attention in Western media compared to Cambodia, despite similar per capita death tolls. They attributed this disparity to the U.S. providing diplomatic support and arms to Indonesia, which made critical coverage politically inconvenient. For example, they noted that The New York Times devoted extensive column space to Cambodia but only a fraction to East Timor, illustrating what they called a "propaganda model" where media coverage aligns with state interests.
This comparison is also discussed in the documentary Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media (1992), which visually contrasts the media’s focus on Cambodia with its neglect of East Timor. Chomsky’s work emphasizes how geopolitical alliances shape what atrocities get amplified or suppressed."
Stuck at the same crappy interchange E of Pokrovsk, for instance for several months.
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 14 2025 21:05 utc | 65
How about holding instead of stuck? It opens a perspective you have galloped over imo. Words define reality. Holding is way more accurate and quite frankly less argumenative/partisan. Has the smo been pushing over and over to pass this insignificant interchange?
Posted by: Tannenhouser | Apr 14 2025 21:22 utc | 68
snake. 51
Spot on mate, our rights and freedoms are critical as they impact us personally every day.
Posted by: Q-lander | Apr 14 2025 21:36 utc | 69
Stuck at the same crappy interchange E of Pokrovsk, for instance for several months.
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 14 2025 21:05 utc | 65
Yawn! Yawn! Still waiting for you to arrive in Crimea Mr Anonymouse. How long has it been? two-and-a-half years? Mmmm...and I think yur actually further away from Crimea today...
Posted by: HERMIUS | Apr 14 2025 21:38 utc | 70
Careful guys and gals ,there maybe more than ,"meets the eyes here",palm Sunday rituals, gaza/sumy, 'evil'putin might have been set up,when 🍊 man says it was a mistake, that is putin speak.
Posted by: Aliya | Apr 14 2025 21:46 utc | 71
“Just a possibility that came to my mind.
Might the Ukraine regime not have deliberately organized an event with children invited, and then on purpose have leaked to the Russians that there was to be a military award ceremony?
Everything to raise a scandal again. And with Sumy close to the border, the children will probably be Russian speaking or even ethnically Russian, so the regime would not care at all.
Maybe even done on the behest of Israel, to which the regime has the warmest of links, or on order of GB, which controls large part of the Ukrainian "state" to deflect attention away from the genocide in Gaza.”
Posted by: Ronald Portier | Apr 14 2025 16:43 utc | 19
My thought exactly - you beat me to it.
Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Apr 14 2025 21:53 utc | 72
Marvin | Apr 14 2025 17:59 utc | 34
…Bin Laden had dropped a bunch a leaflets half an hour before 9/11
OBL (former CIA asset Tim Osman, as once famously photographed with Carter NSA Zbigniew Brezinsky), had nothing to do with 9/11.
The current Trump Commerce Sec. Howard Lutnick, fortuitously, conveniently, coincidentally, was absent from his Cantor Fitzgerald WTC North Tower office on Sep 11, 2001.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 14 2025 22:04 utc | 73
The number of bodies of foreign mercenaries who fought in Ukrainian Armed Forces that were found in Russia*
• PL (Poland) - 1963
• GE (Georgia) - 1230
• CO (Columbia) - 917
• FR (France) - 208
• DE (Germany) - 197
• GB (Great Britain) - 156
• US (USA) - 89
• AU (Australia) - 17
• JP (Japan) - 4
* The number of found bodies of foreign mercenaries is up to date on April 10, 2025.
Source : Statista
Posted by: HERMIUS | Apr 14 2025 22:13 utc | 74
Justpassinby | Apr 14 2025 20:40 utc
That lying Polack (I note he is no longer questioned about what he knew of NS2 sabotage and when he knew it).
§|~ “Ukraine agreed to an *unconditional ceasefire* over a month ago…
As Karl and others explained to a barflea yesterday, the ceasefire appled on *energy* infrastructure.
Of course Ukraine ignored that, immediately. Russia has continued to target assets that are no energy infrastructure.
Ukraine has targeted whatever they want, but especially Russian energy infrastructure.
To now claim the ceasefire was to be “unconditional” is of course more of the lies and fabricated narrative.
IMVHO I think Putin a fool, a huge dupe, for agreeing to such nonsense.
But here we are….
Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 14 2025 22:15 utc | 75
Well lookie lookie. Look who’s crawled out from under the maggoty cow Pat he’s been occupying…. Putin’s decades long arch villain, Bill Browder.
With him weighing in, this Sumy incident looks increasingly like the set-up some suspect.
§|. Putin’s Sumy Attack is ‘a huge slap in the face for Donald Trump’ | Sir Bill Browder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNjwLQqZNqg
Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 14 2025 22:24 utc | 76
Were cluster munitions used in the Iskander hit on Sumy yesterday? Everything else looks proper on the Russian side but its wrong if cluster munitions were used, but its hard to tell from photos released that if one missile got diverted, then where's the crater where it hit?
Posted by: Winston | Apr 14 2025 22:25 utc | 77
The information about the gathering was made public by the ukronazis themselves. Here is the evidence.
https://t.me/ddgeopolitics/144707
Posted by: Naive | Apr 14 2025 22:38 utc | 78
I’m not sure Russia would have launched that strike a year or two years ago *because* there were civilians, even a few. And I’m pretty sure that in that time frame a Russian strike that killed that many civilians would have brought a different response from official channels in Moscow.
It may be that hearts in Moscow have hardened, and it may also be that the summer of 2025 comes with a very serious intent to do whatever needs to be done. The timing is right.
Posted by: Lex | Apr 14 2025 22:40 utc | 79
Putin’s Sumy Attack is ‘a huge slap in the face for Donald Trump’ | Sir Bill Browder
Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 14 2025 22:24 utc | 77
I wrote about it on the other thread... But now to be associated with browder, burk!!!!!
Of course there is no evidence that the order came from Putin.
Posted by: Naive | Apr 14 2025 22:48 utc | 80
Does anyone remember the attack on the Homs military academy in Oct. 2023? It killed over 100 people, including women and children, and injured 100s more.
I tried searching for US news reports on the attack, to point out the hypocrisy, but all I found were sycophantic middle eastern reports expressing bafflement as to whodunnit (one said either Assad or Iran!), and a statement from the UN Sec General expressing equal sorrow for the victims at Homs AND the victims in Idlib when the SAA retaliated for the strike.
Apparently, the SAA was not baffled at who could have done such a heinous act.
Yep, double standards guide the Empire, its vassals, and the Mighty Wurlitzer pumping out the propaganda.
Posted by: wagelaborer | Apr 14 2025 22:48 utc | 81
Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 14 2025 21:05 utc | 65
Hey everyone. Just ignore this guy. His data is just wrong.
Now I use DPA for a quick overview. His most recent report for 13 April was 22.23 Km2 taken by Russia in Ukraine - PLUS another 11.2 in Kursk. Not too bad, even if it is really a two day report. Nil for Ukraine
Now Wyatt at DPA ALWAYS indicates his sources either DS or Rybar and compares the two. You know when you follow him what the real situation is and where either side is making dubious claims. I agree his mapping is not always easy to follow, but his assessment is nothing like Anonymous always negative stuff.
Russia is making steady progress such that:
Kursk - almost over - a few troops in a monastery and forest
Luhansk: just a village or two left to take
Kherson: No change
Zaporizhia: there is a clear offensive and the battle is moving closer to the capital city quite fast. Keep an eye on it
Donstsk as ever is hard but there is clear and steady progress. Very big gains this week including in the Pokrovsk sector. The battle is edging very close to the border with Dnipro. Once Ukraine finally concedes Chaviv Yar and toretsk which are essentially both under Russian control, the optics will move heavily in Russia's direction
Kharkiv: slow but steady progress
Sumy: new front that looks like it may become a new target for annexation
Dnipro:Just shelling at this stage, but i have a hunch it will be taken before Zaporizhia city.
Posted by: watcher | Apr 14 2025 23:10 utc | 82
What happened to human rights ?
Humanity has failed to rise against this massive beast, the nation state system..
Posted by: snake | Apr 14 2025 20:04 utc | 51
Which "human rights"? There is no such thing as "human rights", for they are part of the hypocrisy of the empire of lies.
And there is no such thing as a "humanity". The beast in not the "nation state system". It is a very small minority of supremacist, racist, greedy, arrogant, corrupt, cynic, etc. people who have adopted the nietzschean ideology.
Posted by: Naive | Apr 14 2025 23:20 utc | 83
Posted by: watcher | Apr 14 2025 23:10 utc | 83
Of course he is a liar.
Posted by: Naive | Apr 14 2025 23:21 utc | 84
bill browder is a pathetic sick personality, obsessed over not still being able to rip off russia.. i guess he shares that in common with a lot of banker types - exploitative and never wanting the rape and pillage to stop.. now he is a spoke person for the ''high values'' west, lol..
Posted by: james | Apr 14 2025 23:24 utc | 85
JP Straley@47
Among the grievances that the independence party in the colonies found most galling in 1776 was the Royal Proclamation of 1763 which limited the colonists right to expand beyond, essentially, the Appalachian mountains.
For all it faults and weaknesses the Proclamation of 1763 recognised that the only basis of colonial expansion would involve genocide and ethnic cleansing of the sort which took place inter alia on the Trail of Tears.
A further beef the colonial rebels had lay in the implications of the Somerset Case of 1772 which found that slavery could not exist in England and Wales. While it was not a direct challenge to the slaveowners of whom Dr Johnson memorably asked "How is it that we hear the loudest yelps for liberty from the drivers of negroes", it was the writing on the wall for the planter politicians.
Land speculators, racists and slavedrivers formed then, as their descendants do now, the core of the terrorist minority that took the colonies into independence.
It was largely due to the military weight of Bourbon France which saw the war as a chance to revenge the defeats of the Seven Years War that 'liberty', as exemplified in US Foreign policy ever since, prevailed.
The United States has been a byword for hypocrisy and double standards ever since.
Posted by: bevin | Apr 14 2025 23:33 utc | 86
James@2324 Apr 14
For those who have little historical backgrounding: Wee Willie Browder is the mega-capitalist bankster creep who is the son of the onetime head of the CPUSA in this ruptured republic. The acronym signifies Communist Party U.$.A. Is it an Ashkenazi family trait to be rank opportunists?
Posted by: aristodemos | Apr 14 2025 23:39 utc | 87
There are critical differences in the founding of the US and Israel. To equate the two, is a succor to Zionism.Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Apr 14 2025 19:23 utc | 43
Yeah, one critical distinction is that the Israeli genocide has been televised, where everyone can see it occurring in real time.
Another distinction is that the US was founded in an era when white supremacy was an official ideology of the European colonial empires.
Israel on the other hand is a European settler-colonial project founded after the Russian revolution, the anti-colonial struggles across the global south, and the defeat of Nazism, largely by the USSR, had supposedly dealt a body blow to the ideologies and practices of white superiority and colonialism.
Posted by: Lengai | Apr 15 2025 0:09 utc | 88
There is no doubt in my mind that Zelensky and many of his sick minded entourage have the consciences of psychopaths. Not only have hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians and Russians been killed or maimed for absolutely no reason other than racist driven hate towards Russia on his behalf, but he has also been corruptly pocketing and investing billions into his personal bank accounts, investment projects, real estate, and plans for escaping Ukraine when the time comes.
Borzzikman has recently claimed he invested billions into platinum mines in Africa and a few weeks ago announced that he had bought France's largest private bank with the help of Rothschilds. He also claimed Zelensky had bought a luxury property in the Caribbean replete with freshly built underground bunker; his wife bought another holiday home in Italy; and his mother bought a similar property on the Red Sea coastline. If any or all of these are true then we are seeing another corrupt gangster running a country with the zero ethics of a psychopath.
Posted by: George | Apr 15 2025 0:31 utc | 89
HandSignals4TheBlind | Apr 14 2025 15:41 utc | 1
***... it should be obvious to you that Israel has descended into barbarism. Why barbarism? Because in Israel, cruel, murderous, and otherwise criminal behavior has become state policy.***
Well, it would appear to be much more like "NATO Values" alleged civilization.
Like, under a veneer of propaganda and censorship, it always was.
Israel (even before its on-the-ground manifestation) and its religious/cultist compendium of logic and myth is basically what generated most of such 'values' anyway. The remainder being copied from the worst of a Roman Empire the top Western social and political establishments always longed to resurrect.
So why blame the barbarians?
Posted by: Cynic | Apr 15 2025 0:38 utc | 90
Posted by: snake | Apr 14 2025 20:04 utc | 50
reply Posted by: Naive | Apr 14 2025 23:20 utc | 84
The beast in not the "nation state system".
It is a very small minority of supremacist, racist,
greedy, arrogant, corrupt, cynic, etc. people who have
adopted the nietzschean ideology.
<=thanks for the thoughtful comment.
IRT to "Humanity has failed to rise against this massive beast, the nation state system.."
<=The nation state system, is the static structure and the operations of the national governments provide the dynamic set of tools that provides the leverage "the very small
minority of supremacist, racist, greedy, arrogant, corrupt cynic, etc.' use to own, control, and rule the people and resources in the entire world.
Tools provide leverage, structure keeps things on track.. the nation state system is a tool ALA it survives unchallanged nothing will be allowed to change. A
A 2nd system of government is needed to govern those who govern the masses.
Until two independent opposed equally powerful systems of government emerge nothing of substance is going to change.
Posted by: snake | Apr 15 2025 0:47 utc | 91
Posted by: snake | Apr 14 2025 20:04 utc | 50
reply Posted by: Naive | Apr 14 2025 23:20 utc | 84
The beast in not the "nation state system".
It is a very small minority of supremacist, racist,
greedy, arrogant, corrupt, cynic, etc. people who have
adopted the nietzschean ideology.
<=thanks for the thoughtful comment.
IRT to "Humanity has failed to rise against this massive beast, the nation state system.."
<=The nation state system, is the static structure and the operations of the national governments provide the dynamic set of tools that provides the leverage "the very small
minority of supremacist, racist, greedy, arrogant, corrupt cynic, etc.' use to own, control, and rule the people and resources in the entire world.
Tools provide leverage, structure keeps things on track.. the nation state system is a tool ALA it survives unchallanged nothing will be allowed to change. A
A 2nd system of government is needed to govern those who govern the masses.
Until two independent opposed equally powerful systems of government emerge nothing of substance is going to change.
Posted by: snake | Apr 15 2025 0:47 utc | 92
Posted by: snake | Apr 14 2025 20:04 utc | 50
reply Posted by: Naive | Apr 14 2025 23:20 utc | 84
The beast in not the "nation state system".
It is a very small minority of supremacist, racist,
greedy, arrogant, corrupt, cynic, etc. people who have
adopted the nietzschean ideology.
<=thanks for the thoughtful comment.
IRT to "Humanity has failed to rise against this massive beast, the nation state system.."
<=The nation state system, is the static structure and the operations of the national governments provide the dynamic set of tools that provides the leverage "the very small
minority of supremacist, racist, greedy, arrogant, corrupt cynic, etc.' use to own, control, and rule the people and resources in the entire world.
Tools provide leverage, structure keeps things on track.. the nation state system is a tool ALA it survives unchallanged nothing will be allowed to change. A
A 2nd system of government is needed to govern those who govern the masses.
Until two independent opposed equally powerful systems of government emerge nothing of substance is going to change.
Posted by: snake | Apr 15 2025 0:47 utc | 93
"President Trump called the attack a "mistake"."
Thanks b.
Trump, therefore, accepts the MSM conclusion that the attack killed many civilians but was simply due to incompetence on the part of Russia and Putin. He isn't curious enough to investigate the reality of the Sumy strike. It was a high-value military personnel target and yes, civilians died. But as Lavrov already said, and everyone else knows, Ukies very regularly place military equipment and personnel directly adjacent to kindergartens and other emotionally valuable civilian locations precisely because of the dishonest propaganda that can be made of it if/when the miltary targets are hit by Russia. Trump is reduced to saying it was a "mistake". It wasn't a mistake. It was a high-value military strike. But Trump doesn't know any better. He trusts his neocon advisors.
Another thing Trump always does: blames only "Biden" for starting the war, but always seems careful to not mention Collective Obama (Nuland, Clinton, Pyatt, etc). It's like he is always on the 2024 campaign trail, even now almost four months into 2025.
Posted by: Spectator | Apr 15 2025 1:14 utc | 94
Posted by: bevin | Apr 14 2025 23:33 utc | 87 Don't know if this is truly the bevin widely respected by MoA commentariat in times past. The point that the Proclamation was a major grievance is about the only solid statement. The revolution in New England was not precisely a minority, though the Tories incontestably were. (As so common the so-called neutrals didn't effectively count.) That's why the real but relatively minimal violence of the crowds in New England won the day before Lexington and Concord. Tarring and feathering and riding on a rail are not what people mean today by so-called terrorism and using that adjective is misleading. Further, those crowds were not land speculators and slaveholders at all, nor were they driven by racism (that's backward projection from woke revisionists of history in my judgment.)
The states with land speculators and slaveholders in abundance on the other hand were precisely the states where the revolution came closer to miscarrying. Pennsylvania was essentially revolutionized by a coup using mass action, leading to a very radical (for the times) new constitution with of all things a unicameral assembly. (Those interested might research the involvement of Benjamin Franklin in the events, which an irreverent person might call shenanigans.)And in the South (and New York City, already one of the South's entrepots and to some degree Philadelphia) where there were more land speculators and slaveholders were the areas where Loyalism/Tories were strongest.
The terrorism in the Revolutionary War---and there was a lot, even by modern standards---reached its zenith (or is it nadir?) in the civil strife between Tories and Patriots in the Carolinas. On the other hand, the greatest slaveholders and racists were indubitably the West Indies planters---who never dreamed of rebelling against England. Somerset didn't even end slavery of miners and salt workers in Scotland, much less threaten planters in the American colonies, on the mainland or the islands. The real threat to planters was in Virginia, where the decline in tobacco threatened the value of their plantations/slaves, which fact I think had much more to do with those planters being amenable to a (temporary, it turned out) union with the New England rabble. That bunch was much too Wilkes&Liberty! to truly appeal to the grandees of the Tidewater.
It was the equivalent of today's woke who objected on principle to the extermination of the Indians. There were quite a few who looked forward to peacefully and legally acquiring the land, but we know how much weight they carried in the long run. Abstractly, democracy is the union of US citizens, rich and poor alike (pretended, we aren't!) against Them, the outsiders, the foreigners, the non-citizens, in the name of, ahem, self-defense (preferably on their territory!) Is this barbarian? I suppose, though I am not so clear that we today won't seem barbaric to high-minded folk of the future, if any. In some senses, the notion that we are in control and it's all an act of our free will is self-delusion. In some ways, the spread of settlers across America is like rabbits spreading across Australia. Or maybe gray squirrels crowding out red squirrels? That's not a very flattering thought when looking into a mirror I suppose...but perhaps a truly human civilization is something to fight for?
Posted by: steven t johnson | Apr 15 2025 1:25 utc | 95
Here is Lavrov discussing this bs with great clariy.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JuRpY6OmyvI&t=3s&pp=2AEDkAIB
Can't vouch for the translation, but it seems totally correct.
Posted by: Spectator | Apr 15 2025 1:33 utc | 96
I wonder if the notion has ever occurred to Ukrainian Rada member Mariana Bezuglaya that Alexander Syrsky (Commander-in-Chief of the AFU) might secretly be working for Russia.
After all he still has family in the Russian Federation and the parents appear to be very patriotic Russians.
One would think, after the September 2024 incident in which Russian missiles destroyed a military academy (and hundreds of Ukrainian and NATO soldiers and "advisors" there) in Poltava, Syrsky and his advisors should have issued orders that gatherings above a certain size (let's say, of five people) either should be held in secret locations or such gatherings should be conducted online where possible.
There's always the possibility though that the Ukrainian military is deliberately holding large gatherings (that might attract Russian attention) in areas of dense civilian populations and particularly in places like schools, community centres and places of worship for maximum propaganda exposure in the West. If this possibility turns out to be correct, we MoA barflies can suspect foreign fingerprints all over this particular iteration of using civilians (via civilian infrastructure and buildings) as human shields.
Posted by: Refinnejenna | Apr 15 2025 1:54 utc | 97
Here is Lavrov discussing this bs with great clarity.
(Reposting to correct the spelling of the word "clarity". Terrible error to misspell a word like that). Vid is about 5 minutes long.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JuRpY6OmyvI&t=3s&pp=2AEDkAIB
Posted by: Spectator | Apr 15 2025 1:33 utc | 99
Posted by: Spectator | Apr 15 2025 1:56 utc | 98
Posted by: Peru | Apr 15 2025 1:56 utc | 102
Lol, "prove it!". Lavrov said so. There, I proved it. He isn't a bullshitter.
Are you actually trying to argue here that Russia and "Putin" expend their high-value weapons attacking kindergartens?
Posted by: Spectator | Apr 15 2025 2:03 utc | 99
It’s always fun when NAFO’s bestest brony lets the mask fall. 😁
Posted by: malenkov | Apr 15 2025 2:08 utc | 100
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