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April 27, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-091
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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Here is why Israel thinks it should exist and be a member in good standing at the UN: Posted by: Otto Penn | Apr 27 2025 13:45 utc | 1 Amos Goldberg, Professor of Genocide Studies at The Hebrew University in Jerusalem “Yes, it is genocide. It’s so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion. Jewish history will henceforth be stained” Posted by: Exile | Apr 27 2025 14:02 utc | 2 Yesterday, I saw a video on X of 2 women pro-Palestinian protesters in NY (protesting Ben Givr’s presence in the US) being harrassed, assaulted and threatened with rape by a mob of Orthodox Jewish men. It turns out one of the women was Jewish; she is anti-Zionist and anti-genocide. She put out a statement about her assault later. Posted by: teri | Apr 27 2025 14:27 utc | 3 London Marathon Disrupted by Pro-Palestine Action Posted by: Red Star | Apr 27 2025 14:34 utc | 4 Posted by: teri | Apr 27 2025 14:27 utc | 6 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 27 2025 14:43 utc | 5 the israelis and their neo-fascist governments, as well as their zionist pals in the USA, are total f*cking demons from Hell – and to Hell they shall return Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 27 2025 14:50 utc | 6 Repeating the set of local Palestine links…. Posted by: Ornot | Apr 27 2025 16:04 utc | 7 Iran explosion… Posted by: Ornot | Apr 27 2025 16:06 utc | 8 Spinoza said judaism was a bunch of legends, Freud said Moses waw an Egyptian trying to promote Akhenaton’s religion to foreigners, Einstein warned of the establishment of a state. Posted by: Tom | Apr 27 2025 16:47 utc | 9 There is the Torah and then there is the Talmud. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 27 2025 17:06 utc | 10 People who claim antisemitism never happened and the European Jews who founded Israel were puppets to some colonial cause are not making fact-based claims. Posted by: Polli | Apr 27 2025 17:56 utc | 11
That white people have no genuine racial or civilizational history becomes a big problem, IMO. They can define themselves as superhuman on a whim. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 27 2025 18:00 utc | 12 The Torah itself does not pretend it is revelation! The scribes who compiled it had the intellectual honesty to preserve contradictory stories and various pseudo-genealogies (made of geographical and tribal entities, most of them fictitious) as well as multiple divine names, some of which are well attested from neighbouring polytheist religions. Posted by: Minaa | Apr 27 2025 18:01 utc | 13 I found coverage of another Israeli war crime: Posted by: Silent Waves | Apr 27 2025 18:03 utc | 14 Posted by: Minaa | Apr 27 2025 18:01 utc | 13 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 27 2025 18:24 utc | 15 Via journalist Youssef Fares Posted by: Ornot | Apr 27 2025 18:33 utc | 16 Via journalist Youssef Fares Posted by: Ornot | Apr 27 2025 18:34 utc | 17 Posted by: Ornot | Apr 27 2025 18:34 utc | 17 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 27 2025 18:54 utc | 18 History reminder: Posted by: Otto Penn | Apr 27 2025 19:14 utc | 19 Not exactly Palestine, but Middle East-related: my analysis of the explosion at Iran’s Shahid Rajaee Port: https://geopolitiq.substack.com/p/was-the-explosion-at-irans-shahid UK – here we go again… Posted by: Red Star | Apr 27 2025 19:36 utc | 21 As the USN continues to strike targets in Yemen, DJT protests RF attacks on civlian areas…….that is total nonsense. Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 27 2025 19:53 utc | 22 Ornot – remember the IDF nuclear policy is that only the Jewish state is allowed to acquire and possess nuclear weapons (they have 245 tactical nukes in storage in the Negev). Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 27 2025 20:00 utc | 23 Jews use your tax dollars to fund the FBI & CIA to run cover for Epstein & mossad to kidnap your children and use them as sex slaves to then blackmail your supposed leaders Posted by: ryanggg | Apr 27 2025 20:33 utc | 24 Alon Mizrahi,
The purpose of a culture centered on material gratification and the dissolution of family bonds, alongside the denial of a human spirit, leaves people weak and cowardly. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 27 2025 20:51 utc | 25 see the 8-second video at the third link Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 27 2025 21:07 utc | 26 This is what Amos Goldberg told Le Monde about October 7. He incorporates all of the lies, and directly implies that it was Hamas, not Netanyahu that caused the destruction . This is a professor of Garbage. He is saying that although Israel has committed a genocide , this was a small mistake of emotionally reacting to a horrendous attack by Hamas. Posted by: Giyane | Apr 27 2025 21:14 utc | 27 I don’t know this site. They ask a good question: Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 27 2025 21:22 utc | 28 Aleph_Null 28 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 27 2025 21:46 utc | 29 Posted by: teri | Apr 27 2025 14:27 utc | 3 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 27 2025 21:55 utc | 30 Minaa 13 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 27 2025 22:01 utc | 31 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 27 2025 21:22 utc | 28 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 27 2025 22:05 utc | 32 the Western World is run by ghouls, plutocratic barbarians, sadists and genocidal zionist maniacs. an eternal curse upon them all. Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 27 2025 22:10 utc | 33 Posted by: Ornot | Apr 27 2025 18:33 utc | 16 or 17 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 27 2025 22:15 utc | 34 Tom_Q_Collins 32 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 27 2025 22:24 utc | 35 michaelj72 | Apr 27 2025 22:10 utc | 33 Posted by: KingCobra | Apr 27 2025 22:35 utc | 36 @34 Tom Posted by: Ornot | Apr 28 2025 0:00 utc | 37 “70 killed/martyred on Sunday since dawn…” Posted by: Ornot | Apr 28 2025 0:06 utc | 38 I would apologise for the long post, but it is little when considering that lists like the following exist for just about every single day over the last year and a half. They also represent only recorded direct casualties of “Israeli” violence: Posted by: Ornot | Apr 28 2025 0:28 utc | 39 see the 15-second video at the first link Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 28 2025 5:15 utc | 41 Ornot’s summary of Netanyahu’s lies. Posted by: Giyane | Apr 28 2025 5:33 utc | 42 Trying to figure out how the mightiest army in the middle east is running out of troops after more than a year of fighting women and children from the air:
— source: https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/israel-extends-compulsory-service-manpower-crisis-plagues-army Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 28 2025 7:03 utc | 43 42 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 28 2025 7:54 utc | 44 43 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 28 2025 9:21 utc | 45 Mass Starvation Looms in Gaza as World Food Program Says Stocks Have Run Out Posted by: JohnGilberts | Apr 28 2025 10:25 utc | 46 John Gilberts 45 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 28 2025 10:59 utc | 47 @Giyane, Posted by: JohnGilberts | Apr 28 2025 11:16 utc | 48 There are hearings on the Gaza blockade and actions against UNRWA going on in the ICJ today. Morning hearings have already concluded. Multiple YT channels have the hearings in full (IE Middle East Eye). There will be afternoon hearings in a few hours. I recognized the lawyer South Africa was represented by in the ICJ in previous proceedings: Blinne Ní Ghrálaigh (Matrix Law, London). Posted by: ockham | Apr 28 2025 11:29 utc | 49 Important op-ed at today’s New York Times by Peter Beinart: “Trump Doesn’t Want to Protect All Jewish Students — Just Those on His Team”. Details how Zionist Jews (ADL, et al.) in America are attempting to marginalize any Jews who oppose Zionism. Effectively, the Zionists want to equate ‘Being Jewish’ with ‘Being Zionist’. Jewish college students who support Palestine are being disciplined, suspended, or expelled, along with Jewish faculty who oppose Zionism. Universities are following the dictates of the Zionists. Posted by: Clever Dog | Apr 28 2025 11:38 utc | 50 It would be interesting if the Iranian response to the port bombing was to declare war on Israel. I know Israel is trying to provoke a response. Also aware of Alex Krainer’s point that Israel needs an external enemy to unite against. However if Iran has the ability to end Israel as a functioning modern state, then what benefit is such unity? Posted by: EoinW | Apr 28 2025 12:10 utc | 51 Political Islam … Political Islam…. Posted by: sal | Apr 28 2025 12:14 utc | 52 Posted by: EoinW | Apr 28 2025 12:10 utc | 50 Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Apr 28 2025 12:27 utc | 53 💧Mary Kostakidis Posted by: Menz | Apr 28 2025 12:28 utc | 54 Max Blumenthal Posted by: Menz | Apr 28 2025 12:29 utc | 55 Isaac Ali 🇳🇿🇵🇸 إسحاق الجيزاني Posted by: Menz | Apr 28 2025 12:30 utc | 56 “If only Syria had listened to Arch.” Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Apr 28 2025 12:32 utc | 57 Trita Parsi Posted by: Menz | Apr 28 2025 12:33 utc | 58 ockham, Posted by: Exile | Apr 28 2025 13:12 utc | 59
It is genocidal Israel not Iran that is desperate here. Iran only needs to wait and like China wins by default. The clownish take that Iran should strike Israel in full force thereby forfeiting the immense advantages of its geography and defensive war is the kind of imbecilic ‘plan’ that gets cooked up in whatever passes for the strategic nerve centers of the Western military octopus. Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Apr 28 2025 13:24 utc | 60 RE: Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Apr 28 2025 13:24 utc | 59 Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 28 2025 13:56 utc | 61 Can we please drop the pretense that the West is helpless to stop the genocide? Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 28 2025 13:58 utc | 62 Israel will not attend the hearings on the UNWRA ban at the ICJ: Posted by: teri | Apr 28 2025 13:59 utc | 63 Israel bombing in Beirut, Lebanon again with the excuse that the target (an apartment building) was a “weapons depot”. It was not. Posted by: teri | Apr 28 2025 14:01 utc | 64 US and its minions, strikes in Yemen. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 28 2025 14:56 utc | 65 All the Palestinians inside Israel proper the west bank and gaza, in lebanon and jordan and syria would be better off if they all migrated en mass to Ukraine and the new Russian oblasts there. Russia is very short of workers, builders farmers and good fighters etc Posted by: William | Apr 28 2025 14:57 utc | 66 United Nations special rapporteur, has called for a halt to arms sales to the Israeli regime. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 28 2025 14:58 utc | 67 Posted by: William | Apr 28 2025 14:57 utc | 66 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 28 2025 15:07 utc | 68
Can someone please tell me where are Israels borders ? Posted by: Exile | Apr 28 2025 15:15 utc | 69 William 1066 – stop talking like an IDF tool, the Palestinians have far more rights to their farmland, homes, orchards and businesses in Palestinian than do most Jews who appeared in Palestine in the post WWII era and promptly expropriated Palestinian properties. Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 28 2025 15:29 utc | 70 A British firm is supplying engines for Israel’s newest generation of killer drones. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 28 2025 15:36 utc | 71 WRT the ICJ proceedings: Posted by: ockham | Apr 28 2025 15:41 utc | 72 Sounds about right to me. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 28 2025 15:45 utc | 73 Surprising but good. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 28 2025 15:47 utc | 74 These settlers in Palestine really are monsters. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 28 2025 15:50 utc | 75 Posted by: William | Apr 28 2025 14:57 utc | 66 Posted by: JB | Apr 28 2025 16:09 utc | 76 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 28 2025 15:47 utc | 74 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 28 2025 16:12 utc | 77 The Islamic world seems too shy to question the torah and gospels canons although its own theologians and its own sacred scriptures mention the falsification of the previous scriptures. In fact this falsification was already a topic of anathema between jews themselves about the torah, and between christian themselves about their scriptures. Posted by: Tom | Apr 28 2025 16:17 utc | 78 sal 52 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 28 2025 16:20 utc | 79 The Islamic world seems too shy to question the torah and gospels canons although its own theologians and its own sacred scriptures mention the falsification of the previous scriptures. In fact this falsification was already a topic of anathema between jews themselves about the torah, and between christian themselves about their scriptures. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 28 2025 16:31 utc | 80 Islam holds within it a kill switch installed by the cultists who influenced its development. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 28 2025 16:35 utc | 81 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 28 2025 15:47 utc | 74 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 28 2025 16:38 utc | 82 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 28 2025 16:31 utc | 80
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 28 2025 16:58 utc | 83 Use it or lose it, Iran. Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Apr 28 2025 16:59 utc | 84 And in other news:
Nice headline. How oddly specific. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 28 2025 17:07 utc | 85 Arch, please, Iran will NOT start WWIII. That is what you are advocating. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 28 2025 17:08 utc | 86 The Quran instructs that Christians and Jews are “People of the book”. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 28 2025 17:10 utc | 87 Faith is a wonderful thing, LoveDonbass. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 28 2025 17:28 utc | 88 RE: …”Arch, please, Iran will NOT start WWIII. That is what you are advocating.” Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 28 2025 17:31 utc | 89 Sumyun buckmun umyun Posted by: sal | Apr 28 2025 17:36 utc | 90 The Quran instructs that Christians and Jews are “People of the book”. Posted by: sal | Apr 28 2025 17:42 utc | 91 If there were any actual “believers” on this thread, or “people of faith”, advocating inaction against “evil” is exactly why the “evil” has flourished and heightened globally. But sure… “pray”… that’ll do it. Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 28 2025 17:45 utc | 92 Great video yesterday by Alon Mizrahi. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 28 2025 17:47 utc | 93 Posted by: sal | Apr 28 2025 17:42 utc | 91 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 28 2025 17:49 utc | 94 Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 28 2025 17:45 utc | 92 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 28 2025 17:58 utc | 95 “Tell us what you are doing, which makes you not complicit.” Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 28 2025 18:15 utc | 96 LoveDonbass (77). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 28 2025 18:15 utc | 97 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 28 2025 17:28 utc | 88 Posted by: hopehely | Apr 28 2025 18:17 utc | 98 RE: Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 28 2025 17:58 utc | 95 Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 28 2025 18:23 utc | 99 Posted by: hopehely | Apr 28 2025 18:17 utc | 98 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 28 2025 18:33 utc | 100 |
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