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April 20, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-085
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Contradictory & conflicting messages come from the Americans, like Witkoff’s volte face just before Saturday’s talks in Rome: first he claims a limited level of uranium enrichment is fine; then he claims uranium enrichment is a no-go.
After this, Iran reports that the talks in Rome were constructive.
Meanwhile, the Carnegie Endowment has canceled Foreign Minister Araghchi’s keynote address at its 2025 Nuclear Policy Conference, under pressure from the Israel Lobby and also former Collective Biden & Obama-era officials.
These groups have formed a “coalition of convenience” whose goal is to undermine or “torpedo” an potential initiatives concerning Iran undertaken by DJT
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 21 2025 16:24 utc | 101
Posted by: persiflo | Apr 20 2025 23:35 utc | 50
TDOA. Old tech. It is also done from satellites, best if they not directly over the signal source. So a combinations of air breathing assets and satellites can be used to locate a signal source.
You can actually do this yourself, from home via networked receivers with a GPS time source. However the receivers you can do it from home won’t likely be receiving cell phone signals from Yemen, but other signals that travel longer distances.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 20 2025 21:29 utc | 44
As to what the Houthis mean, could be nothing. Could be they change cell phones a lot.
Posted by: Ed4 | Apr 21 2025 16:30 utc | 102
@ Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 21 2025 14:24 utc | 96
Thank you, thank you for posting that.
– Teri
Posted by: teri | Apr 21 2025 16:36 utc | 103
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 21 2025 16:24 utc | 101
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It’s my theory that Iran is playing along nicely and politely like Putin; they are biding their time.
Trump’s position is losing strength daily across every front of conflict. Domestic and foreign.
Trump can make whatever demands he wants, but I have a feeling that when it comes to the Axis, he will have to enforce those demands because the Axis aren’t going to concede anything and are ready for escalation.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 21 2025 16:48 utc | 104
Posted by: teri | Apr 21 2025 16:36 utc | 103
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After I posted it, it made me think of how the Prophet first attracted the earliest Muslims when there weren’t even a dozen people interested in talking to him about monotheism. At that time, he was treated with derision and hate for opposing the pagan Gods being worshipped in the Kaaba (the House that Abraham built).
He served people and demonstrated high character. Those Hamas who have done everything, up to sacrificing their lives, on behalf of the hostages are demonstrating the best of Islam, as the Prophet PBUH did.
Nothing demonstrates integrity and conviction like being willing to die for someone.
That is Hamas, that is Hezbollah, and that is Ansar Allah among others.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 21 2025 17:08 utc | 105
I am Isreal – written by Professor Norman Finkelstein.
‘I am Israel. I came to a land without a people for a people without a land. Those people who happened to be here, had no right to be here, and my people showed them they had to leave or die, razing 400 Palestinian villages to the ground, erasing their history.
I am Israel. Some of my people committed massacres and later became Prime Ministers to represent me. In 1948, Menachem Begin was in charge of the unit that slaughtered the inhabitants of Deir Yassin, including 100 women and children. In 1953, Ariel Sharon led the slaughter of the inhabitants of Qibya, and in 1982 arranged for our allies to butcher around 2,000 in the refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila.
I am Israel. Carved in 1948 out of 78% of the land of Palestine, dispossessing its inhabitants and replacing them with Jews from Europe and other parts of the world. While the natives whose families lived on this land for thousands of years are not allowed to return, Jews from all over the world are welcome to instant citizenship.
I am Israel. In 1967, I swallowed the remaining lands of Palestine – East Jerusalem, the West Bank and Gaza – and placed their inhabitants under an oppressive military rule, controlling and humiliating every aspect of their daily lives. Eventually, they should get the message that they are not welcome to stay, and join the millions of Palestinian refugees in the shanty camps of Lebanon and Jordan.
I am Israel. I have the power to control American policy. My American Israel Public Affairs Committee can make or break any politician of its choosing, and as you see, they all compete to please me. All the forces of the world are powerless against me, including the UN as I have the American veto to block any condemnation of my war crimes. As Sharon so eloquently phrased it, “We control America”.
I am Israel. I influence American mainstream media too, and you will always find the news tailored to my favor. I have invested millions of dollars into PR representation, and CNN, New York Times, and others have been doing an excellent job of promoting my propaganda. Look at other international news sources and you will see the difference.
I am Israel. You Palestinians want to negotiate “peace!?” But you are not as smart as me; I will negotiate, but will only let you have your municipalities while I control your borders, your water, your airspace and anything else of importance. While we “negotiate,” I will swallow your hilltops and fill them with settlements, populated by the most extremist of my extremists, armed to the teeth. These settlements will be connected with roads you cannot use, and you will be imprisoned in your little Bantustans between them, surrounded by checkpoints in every direction.
I am Israel. I have the fourth strongest army in the world, possessing nuclear weapons. How dare your children confront my oppression with stones, don’t you know my soldiers won’t hesitate to blow their heads off? In 17 months, I have killed 900 of you and injured 17,000, mostly civilians, and have the mandate to continue since the international community remains silent. Ignore, as I do, the hundreds of Israeli reserve officers who are now refusing to carry out my control over your lands and people; their voices of conscience will not protect you.
I am Israel. You want freedom? I have bullets, tanks, missiles, Apaches and F-16s to obliterate you. I have placed your towns under siege, confiscated your lands, uprooted your trees, demolished your homes, and you still demand freedom? Don’t you get the message? You will never have peace or freedom, because I am Israel.’
– written by Professor Norman Finkelstein.
Posted by: ld | Apr 21 2025 17:38 utc | 106
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 21 2025 16:48 utc | 104
RE: Trump is losing strength everyday
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Roger that.
The world of his second presidency is so vastly different from what he sat atop his first time around.
The SMO altered the calculus, especially the way Collective Biden so thoroughly amped the mendacity, followed by the total emasculization of Europe (not a peep about Nordsteam, de-industrializing, etc.)
And then the ramifications of 7 October blew the doors off global dynamics.
Add to the above the shift in the U.S.'s own financialization, the hollowing out of manufacturing, all the public money Collective Biden threw @ the Green New Deal--erm, the infrastructure act---and you have a crisis of debt reliance that has been decades in the making.
DJT thought he could waltz in w/ Gen Kellogg or, literally, w/ Waltz and reap some easy solutions. Nope.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 21 2025 18:48 utc | 107
Max Blumenthal interviews Muhammad Al-Bukhaiti, senior political officer and spokesman for Ansar Allah (the Houthi movement), on Yemen’s direct confrontation with a US military machine which is hellbent on destroying its ability to resist Israel.
In this third conversation between The Grayzone and Bukhaiti, the Ansar Allah spokesman explains why he believes his movement’s war with the US-Israeli axis is unlike any conflict that preceded it, and why he believes Yemen is engaged in a righteous battle despite the terrible toll its civilians have faced.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIRwEVHSjWs
Posted by: ld | Apr 21 2025 19:07 utc | 108
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 21 2025 18:48 utc | 107
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Trump’s self-belief is his greatest asset and his greatest liability.
He is not a cautious or calculated man. He’s not an improviser, he’s tenacious. He doesn’t give up, even when he probably should.
Take all of that and then put it through a more dangerous (for him) scenario where all of his major opponents have teamed up (BRICS+), and he is entering with a country that still is not confident that men cannot become pregnant.
If he were just taking on Iran, he might be able to win.
Iran + Russia + China, impossible.
Also, the US military has not been made stronger in his absence. For sure, DEI had deleterious effects.
Then Biden gave a lot of resources away for the Russians to smash up, while making China stronger by limiting their access to high-end chips that forced them to rapidly develop their own techniques and industry.
Every action creates a future reaction.
I wonder what future Zionism has been fashioning.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 21 2025 19:22 utc | 109
Posted by: ld | Apr 21 2025 19:07 utc | 108
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You’re sharing great stuff. Thank you.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 21 2025 19:26 utc | 110
So the IDF has 245 deliverable tactical nuclear weapons……….but will allow no one else to possess them?
Most of them were “stolen” from US stockpiles in 1960’s and 1970’s…………quite a story….
Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 21 2025 19:54 utc | 111
The IDF and Shin Bet denied thousands of Christians the ability to visit the Church of Holy Seplecuria in Jerusualem on Sunday, normally over 10K pilgrims attend but this time they even banned the Pope’s Special Envoy….
Quite a furor is breaking over this heavy handed Israeli insult to all Christendom………..but what do we expect from the JC crucifiers anyway……….oh that is right the Romans did it!! Yea ok got it!!
Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 21 2025 19:59 utc | 112
Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 21 2025 19:59 utc | 112
irl christian zionists say to me “Jesus was a Jew”
No, Jesus stopped being a jew when he was convicted of blasphemy and crucified. The excommunication did not need any more spelling out.
If Jesus was a Jew, then Henry the 8th was Catholic
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 21 2025 20:10 utc | 113
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 21 2025 20:10 utc | 113
Another funny one is Jesus is a Jew of the House of David because his father Joseph was of the house of David.
Oops, Maury Povich says Joseph is not the Father, God is. And although Jews are Gods chosen, nowhere does the bible say God is a Jew, or of the house of David, or that David was of Gods seed.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 21 2025 20:17 utc | 114
The sole purpose of British troops shoehorning US -controlled Daesh HTS into power in Syria was clearly to stick sectarian divisions into Islam at this critical moment in the struggle against Israel by getting HTS stripping Shi’a women in Public , before murdering them.
In Iraq US General Betrayus tried to do the same by false flag , sectarian , Shia – Sunni mosque and marketplace explosions.
The children of the people of the region know what they care dealing with when it comes to Qiyanat/ betrayal by the USUKIS war machine .
The many years of conflict since 9/11 have made USUKIS dirty games for Greater Israel totally transparent to the entire region.
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Posted by: Giyane | Apr 21 2025 20:42 utc | 115
UW Dude 114
Jewishness is transferred by the mother in Judaism. Thin gruel, but keep trying.
Posted by: Giyane | Apr 21 2025 20:45 utc | 116
Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 21 2025 19:54 utc | 111 ” “245 deliverable tactical nuclear weapons most stolen from US stockpiles”
LOL, quite the specific number. And no, Israel did not steal any tactical nuclear weapons from US stockpiles. And you leave out France entirely, which helped build Dimona reactor and a reprocessing plant, starting the 1950’s.
I am guessing you are referring to the highly enriched uranium (HEU) which may have been diverted to Israel from a US based company in the 1960s.
Posted by: Ed4 | Apr 21 2025 21:14 utc | 117
And no, Israel did not steal any tactical nuclear weapons from US stockpiles.
Posted by: Ed4 | Apr 21 2025 21:14 utc | 117
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Whose stockpiles did they steal from? Everyone knows Israelis aren’t smart enough to create high tech on their own.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 21 2025 21:32 utc | 118
Jewishness is transferred by the mother in Judaism. Thin gruel, but keep trying.
Posted by: Giyane | Apr 21 2025 20:45 utc | 116
In Christian theology, they say prophecy was fulfilled by Jesus being of the hoyse of David. Me being raised in an ultra-Zionist pentacostal cult taught me that, as dod JT Chick tracks, as did knowing many less famatic christians iny life and attending their churches.
Furthermore, Jews are a religion, not a race, and never were a race. You can always join the Jewish faith as a gentile, like Sammy Davis Jr, and Roseanne Barr, and many other high profile converts, as well as a friend of mine once.
If you are born of a Jewish mother, you do mot need to read the torah etc to be part of the religion, but of the rabbis execute you for blasphemy, and to thos day insost ot was the right thing to do, then you arent a Jew Anymore.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 21 2025 22:49 utc | 119
Jewishness is transferred by the mother in Judaism. Thin gruel, but keep trying.
Posted by: Giyane | Apr 21 2025 20:45 utc | 116
Furthermore, back in Jesus’ time, you know, the topic being his “Jewishness”, this was clearly NOT the case.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 21 2025 22:55 utc | 120
meanwhile, back at the genocide
see the 11-second video at the first links. unbelievable
https://x.com/propandco/status/1913774287531446482
Propaganda & co @propandco
Israelis are terrorists
Plain and simple
Can you imagine how the shrapnel tears through those tents ?
https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1913653892438466697
Suppressed News. @SuppressedNws
Footage shows the moment Israeli occupation forces bombed tents sheltering displaced people in Al-Mawasi, Khan Younis, southern Gaza Strip.
The bomb used is a U.S made/funded one.
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https://x.com/ME_Observer_/status/1913961940256231502
Middle East Observer @ME_Observer_
⚡️⭕️ Settlement godmother Daniela Weiss in an interview with the British BBC:
The Arabs will not remain in Gaza. Who will? The Jews, of course. Africa is large, Canada is large. The world will take responsibility for settling the people of Gaza. How will we do that? We will encourage them to leave.
The broadcaster asks: What if they refuse to leave?
Weiss answers: Arabs will want to leave. Normal people refuse to stay in hell.
The broadcaster says to her: What you are talking about sounds like an ethnic cleansing plan!
Weiss answers: You can call it ethnic cleansing, you can call it asylum, call it whatever you want.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 21 2025 23:34 utc | 121
Drop Site
@DropSiteNews
Tonight, Israeli airstrikes are reportedly targeting the remaining bulldozers and heavy machinery used by municipalities across the Gaza Strip—including equipment belonging to Egyptian companies operating in both the north and south.
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1914484168681042285
Drop Site
@DropSiteNews
BREAKING: Footage shows Israeli aircraft striking the Jabalia Municipality’s equipment warehouse in northern Gaza. The site housed bulldozers and other municipal machinery used to clear rubble after airstrikes and rescue those trapped beneath collapsed buildings.
A recent Sky News investigation found that hundreds of people have died slow deaths under the rubble, unreachable for days due to the lack of equipment.
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1914451046694564010
Drop Site
@DropSiteNews
Hundreds Dying Slow Deaths Under Rubble In Gaza
Sky News reports that 15 members of one man’s family — including children — were trapped beneath rubble in Gaza, alive and making phone calls pleading for rescue for three days after the attack. Because Israel continues to block heavy machinery, despite a ceasefire agreement requiring it, they died waiting.
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1912717471817085128
Posted by: Menz | Apr 22 2025 2:58 utc | 123
Drop Site
@DropSiteNews
53 children have died from malnutrition in Gaza—starved to death while Israel blocks food and life-saving supplies from entering.
Trump Ambassador to Israel, Mike Huckabee, today publicly endorsed this policy. He says Israel is right to choke off aid to 2.2 million Palestinians in order to “pressure Hamas” into releasing 24 Israeli captives—most of whom are soldiers in Israel’s apartheid army.
A @WHO official called upon me to put pressure on Israel to bring more humanitarian aid to the people of Gaza. How about we put the pressure where it really belongs – on Hamas.
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1914460564597637339
Posted by: Menz | Apr 22 2025 3:00 utc | 124
💧Mary Kostakidis
@MaryKostakidis
‘In international media, government spokespersons frequently cite the hostages as the primary reason for the ongoing war in Gaza’
But,
But,
Haaretz.com
@haaretzcom
Smotrich said out loud what Netanyahu truly thinks: That the Israeli hostages still held by Hamas should be sacrificed on the altar of messianic aspirations and perpetual war / @amirtibon
https://x.com/haaretzcom/status/1914280789929243015
Posted by: Menz | Apr 22 2025 3:03 utc | 125
ry Kostakidis
@MaryKostakidis
Killing ‘Hamas’ is an excuse for killing doctors, killing anyone and anything that might help Palestinians survive. Not a genocide?
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Gaza Notifications
@gazanotice
🚨BREAKING: Israeli forces have shot Dr. Rawya Al-Harazin — wife of Dr. Nahid Abu Taima, Director of Nasser Hospital currently held in Israeli detention.
The incident occurred as she was stepping off a Ministry of Health bus near the roundabout in Abasan al-Kabira, east of Khan Younis, while returning from work.
https://x.com/MaryKostakidis/status/1914445881379897836
Posted by: Menz | Apr 22 2025 3:07 utc | 126
Mahmood
Israel comments On Egypt-China DRILL | “Peace On Its Way TO collapse”
Hear the comments from the Israeli public on the China Egypt military drills.
I almost laughed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZe6u-0_P-A
Posted by: ld | Apr 22 2025 3:12 utc | 127
In a vote of no confidence in the future. Reports from Washington having tenders for military land transport out of UAE. A UAE company “Pure Trans” and a Israeli company “Trok Net” will supply usa military bases as Red Sea threatens supply lines. Washington Institute for Near East Policy: Air transport is a costly and limited alternative that cannot replace maritime transport, which is threatened by attacks from Yemen.
Posted by: Hankster | Apr 22 2025 3:52 utc | 128
Alon Mizrahi
If Pope Francis had been the moral leader you imagine, he would have instructed Catholics to cut all ties with zionism and never accept zionists in society. Instead, he gave the usual bunch of empty observations and designed-to-fail pleas that only make ostensibly coconscious but politically impotent believers content with themselves without even trying to change reality.
People keep idolizing tokenistic nothingness and wonder why we’re getting nowhere. It is one of the symptoms of a relentlessly-propagandized, heavily sedated society fashioned by mass entertainment and cinematic imagery: people start believing that a hint of something, a representation of something, an image of something, is the real thing
https://x.com/alon_mizrahi/status/1914329080620532204
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 22 2025 5:07 utc | 129
Alon Mizrahi
If Pope Francis had been the moral leader you imagine, he would have instructed Catholics to cut all ties with zionism and never accept zionists in society. Instead, he gave the usual bunch of empty observations and designed-to-fail pleas that only make ostensibly coconscious but politically impotent believers content with themselves without even trying to change reality.
People keep idolizing tokenistic nothingness and wonder why we’re getting nowhere.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 22 2025 5:07 utc | 129
Amen.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 22 2025 5:13 utc | 130
The thugs running the US will ruin everything they possibly can as an example to scare the population into obeying their sickening credos, one of which is to swear eternal fealty to another country as it commits genocide. It may work, as the US is full of very ignorant dill-weeds who mistake cruelty as righteousness.
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US government denies Mahmoud Khalil’s request to attend son’s birth
The Palestinian Columbia University student, who has been detained for more than a month, has missed the birth of his son after the Department of Homeland Security denied his request to be there in person, according to US media reports.
The baby was born in a hospital in New York City early on Monday morning.
His wife, Noor Abdalla, condemned the US government’s actions in a statement.
“I welcomed our son into the world earlier today without Mahmoud by my side,” she said. “Despite our request for ICE [Immigration and Customs Enforcement] to allow Mahmoud to attend the birth, they denied his temporary release to meet our son. This was a purposeful decision by ICE to make me, Mahmoud, and our son suffer.”
Khalil was able to communicate with his wife for some portion of the delivery, The New York Times reported.
The 30-year-old, who is a permanent resident of the US and played a key role in pro-Palestine protests on campus, is being held in the state of Louisiana, about 1,000 miles (1,609 kilometres) away from his home in New York. He was arrested on March 8 and the Trump administration is seeking to deport him, accusing him of supporting Hamas and being a threat to US foreign policy.
https://aje.io/3kwlvu?update=3659503
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Posted by: teri | Apr 22 2025 5:31 utc | 131
southfront reports:
The security forces of Syria’s new Islamist-led interim government have arrested two senior officials from the Palestinian Islamic Jihad (PIJ), Palestinian media reported on April 22.
The officials were identified as Khaled Khaled, in charge of the Syrian arena in the PIJ, and Abu Ali Yasser, responsible for the group’s executive committee in Syria.
The arrests were made less than 48 hours after Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas made a visit to the Syrian capital, Damascus, where he met interim president Ahmad al-Sharaa.
Palestinian and Arab officials inside and outside Syria are reportedly making efforts to secure the release of the two PIJ officials.
The PIJ had close relations with the regime of former president Bahsar al-Assad. However, the group didn’t fight alongside his forces or provide any sort of military support. Thus, when the regime fell last December, the group didn’t leave the country.
Israel targeted the PIJ in Syria on multiple occasions, including a strike on March 13 that targeted the house of the group’s leader Ziyad al-Nakhalah in Damascus.
Earlier this month, a report by The Wall Street Journal revealed that the United States has asked the Syrian government to ban all Palestinian groups from operating inside the country and prevent them from raising funds there among other demands for easing sanctions.
The PIJ is the second largest group in the Gaza Strip, where Israel renewed its offensive last month, pushing the death toll on the Palestinian side from the heated war that broke out following the October 7 Hamas-led surprise attack of 2023 to over 51,000.
The arrest of the PIJ officials is likely an attempt by Syria’s Islamist rulers to appease the U.S. and Israel. This attempt will likely be met with even more demands from the two.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 22 2025 7:29 utc | 132
Alon Mizrahi: People keep idolizing tokenistic nothingness and wonder why we’re getting nowhere.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 22 2025 5:07 utc | 129
I agree with Alon Mizrahi.
A fresh example:
A friend of mine this morning alerted me to a new poll according to which 27% of the Dutch do not support, disagree, with the Dutch government’s policy towards Israel.
Not even a full 30%,! after a year and a half of mass murder with open intent to annihilate an entire people and steal the entirety of THEIR land!
And this poll is to be shared far and wide as if it is some kind of positive.
It is, in fact, a poll of shame. It should ring alarm bells, not bells of hope.
This poll IS important because it indicates clearly all one needs to know about a society, a culture and a state.
Posted by: JB | Apr 22 2025 10:17 utc | 133
Jewishness is transferred by the mother in Judaism. Thin gruel, but keep trying.
Posted by: Giyane | Apr 21 2025 20:45 utc | 116
Furthermore, back in Jesus’ time, you know, the topic being his “Jewishness”, this was clearly NOT the case.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 21 2025 22:55 utc | 120
Salaam UWDude.
That is correct. That idea — nurturing a worldview during formative age in care of the mothers) is strictly a Talmudic rabbinical thought. That by itself underscores the fact being a Jew is a state of mind that is instilled in an impressionable mind.
& Salaam.
Posted by: sunof27 | Apr 22 2025 10:39 utc | 134
Something I would consider as funny trash. Although maybe someone making it from a Fox News talking point to secretary of defense is trash.
https://nitter.poast.org/DaystarPrime/status/1914625448694222976
The following is the text of the email that Penelope Hegseth sent to her son, Pete Hegseth, on April 30, 2018. One sentence was redacted by The New York Times for privacy reasons.
Son,
I have tried to keep quiet about your character and behavior, but after listening to the way you made Samantha feel today, I cannot stay silent. And as a woman and your mother I feel I must speak out..
You are an abuser of women that is
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the ugly truth and I have no respect for any man that belittles, lies, cheats, sleeps around, and uses women for his own power and ego. You are that man (and have been for years) and as your mother, it pains me and embarrasses me to say that, but it is the sad, sad truth.
I am not a saint, far from it.. so don’t throw that in my face,. but your abuse over the years to women (dishonesty, sleeping around, betrayal, debasing, belittling) needs to be called out.
Not sure if mommies know best but acting emotionally yes.
Yet I do wonder, especially considering the timing, if this isn’t part of a targeted smear campaign (by the Ashkenazi tribe) which should be linked to Trump’s current cabinet that does seem a little reluctant and hesitant to commit sepuko by directly attacking Iran as demanded by the Zionazi leadership.
Posted by: xor | Apr 22 2025 11:49 utc | 135
“And no, Israel did not steal any tactical nuclear weapons from US stockpiles.”
Posted by: Ed4 | Apr 21 2025 21:14 utc | 117
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“Whose stockpiles did they steal from? Everyone knows Israelis aren’t smart enough to create high tech on their own.”
Posted by: LoveDumbass | Apr 21 2025 21:32 utc | 118
Dumbass you really don’t know your history; it was the French whom gave Israel nuclear bomb technology back in the late 50’s (1)
1.”France’s diplomatic defeat in the subsequent 1956 Suez War led it to agree to collaborate with Israel and thereby facilitate an Israeli nuclear weapons program.3 France’s motivation was initially commercial — to sell Israel a reactor — but their shared experience with Nazism during the Second World War and of confronting Arab nationalists, of both being defeated during the 1956 Suez crisis, and of both being frozen out of Anglo-American nuclear efforts predisposed them to a joint nuclear effort. However, the actual French decision to build a nuclear weapons infrastructure for Israel was the consequence of determined Israeli lobbying in an extremely fragmentary French executive political structure. Receiving passive executive approval was sufficient for the Zionist sympathetic Gaullist nuclear bureaucracy, but it is highly unlikely that any strong French executive, led by Charles de Gaulle or any other, would have supported a decision to help Israel to the extent it did. French political leaders, as evinced by de Gaulle’s apparent demonstration of regret, made a miscalculation when they agreed to provide nuclear assistance to Israel.” (2)
2. https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1057/9781137298454_7
Posted by: canuck | Apr 22 2025 12:00 utc | 136
Posted by: canuck | Apr 22 2025 12:00 utc | 136
A Jewish scholar would never lie
Posted by: Meh | Apr 22 2025 12:47 utc | 137
Posted by: canuck | Apr 22 2025 12:00 utc | 136
“A Jewish scholar would never lie”
Posted by: Meh | Apr 22 2025 12:47 utc | 137
Are you denying that the French government under DE Gaulle did not give nuclear technology to Israel?
If so, you are quite retarded-further, you are obviously racist as per your above comment.
Posted by: canuck | Apr 22 2025 12:50 utc | 138
@xor | 135 with the Hegseth’s mother’s statement – I don’t think you need this hint, or a professional shrink’s diagnosis, to see that the man has problems. But it certainly ties in well with my observations.
Posted by: persiflo | Apr 22 2025 13:19 utc | 139
@138 canuck
Own conclusion was that it was french supplied technology, with US holding knowledge of the evolution. Also important is regarding S. Africa, somewhere to start on that…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_incident
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 22 2025 13:24 utc | 140
@139 persiflo
…or Hegseth’s mother has problems. However I (thankfully) don’t have any Hegseth observations to guide my opinion. Eitherway, anyone serving in US admin probably has problems…
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 22 2025 13:29 utc | 141
While starvation, bombings, assassinations and other atrocities continue unabated in Gaza and across the region, it appears a turn on how “Israel” intends to manage its approach, which will be tied in with Iran and Yemen realities somehow, is to be decided sometime soon….
There is talk of an Egypt-Qatari proposal of several year truce, withdrawal of occupation from Gaza, rerurn of prisoners, new Palestinian civilian oversight. In effect it is what Hamas has agreed to already, but with disarmament being seemingly absent from the equation as related.
At the same time “Israel” cabinet is to meet to decide on whether to move the conflict to a more intense phase…
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 22 2025 13:57 utc | 142
IDF continue bombing Gaza. They no longer bother to name “safe zones”, since there are none.They have killed at least 25 Palestinians since this morning – 11 of whom were burned alive in the al Mawasi camp near Khan Younis.
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WATCH: Rescue workers pull charred bodies from al-Mawasi camp
An Israeli bombing on a cluster of tents in al-Mawasi has killed at least 10 people. The coastal area was once an Israeli-designated safe zone, but since Israel resumed its Gaza bombing campaign on March 18, it has not marked any areas as protected.
Watch the report below:
[Link includes video.]
Note: number of people burned alive rises to 11.
https://aje.io/3kwlvu?update=3660564
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Posted by: teri | Apr 22 2025 13:59 utc | 143
In other news, an innocent “Israeli” was victim of a horrific and senseless premeditated attack. Anti-semitic motives are suspected, and there has been talk of creating a new terror related class to accomodate this distinct form of extremist hostility /
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JAh7Traa6Ec
Poor sharks, they knoweth not…
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 22 2025 14:13 utc | 144
Posted by: canuck | Apr 22 2025 12:00 utc | 136
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You really have no business in discussion with adults if you can’t distinguish rhetoric from dialectic.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 22 2025 14:19 utc | 145
According to:
https://tgstat.com/channel/@enemywatch
A Hamas delegation led by senior official Khalil al-Hayya (H) has traveled to Egypt to engage in talks over a newly formulated Egyptian-Qatari ceasefire proposal. According to multiple Arab media outlets, this proposal introduces significant changes:
• A 7-year truce that would formally end the ongoing war.
• Total “Israeli” withdrawal from the Gaza Strip.
• A halt to all armed operations by Hamas, with weapons to be placed under secured supervision.
• The end of Hamas’ political rule in Gaza, with administrative responsibilities to be transferred to a Community Support Committee backed by Palestinian Authority (PA) forces.
• Guarantees against any forced displacement of Gazans.
• Exchange of captives, with all Zionist captives to be released in return for a set of Palestinian prisoners.
• Opening of Gaza’s border crossings and the launch of reconstruction efforts, aligning with Hamas’ longstanding conditions.
This revamped proposal follows Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi’s recent visit to Doha and reportedly reflects a joint Cairo-Doha mediation initiative. An “Israeli” delegation was in Cairo on Sunday and held talks about the proposal the following day.
Posted by: JB | Apr 22 2025 14:35 utc | 146
Palestinians are brilliant –in only three-quarters of a century they’ve learned what took the Irish four centuries to learn.
Posted by: Ben Trovata | Apr 22 2025 14:39 utc | 147
see the three videos at the first link
And see the 3:43 video from Sana’a, Yemen at the second link
https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1914392267407663214
Suppressed News. @SuppressedNws
⚡️🇺🇸BREAKING:
Columbia University students and alumni chained themselves to the university’s main gates – a powerful act of protest against the administrations silence and deliberate exclusion.
They are protesting for Palestine and students like Mahmoud Khalil and Mohsen.
https://x.com/s_m_marandi/status/1914200870335533115
Seyed Mohammad Marandi @s_m_marandi
Hours ago, Trump bombed a market in Sana’a, slaughtering large numbers of civilians. This war crime isn’t being covered by Western media because they are racist and subservient to their Zionist overlords.
The Yemeni people are being attacked for trying to stop the #GazaGenocide.
https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1914264160939970609
Suppressed News. @SuppressedNws
Israeli accounts on Telegram are celebrating the news of Pope Francis’s death and insulting him with vulgar language.
In his final statements yesterday, the Pope spoke about Gaza and the devastating war that is killing and destroying Palestinians, describing it as “creating a horrifying and disgraceful situation.”
Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 22 2025 14:44 utc | 148
@138 canuck
“Own conclusion was that it was french supplied technology, with US holding knowledge of the evolution. Also important is regarding S. Africa, somewhere to start on that…
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vela_incident“
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 22 2025 13:24 utc | 140
Wikipedia-are you serious? Controlled by the Zionists-PLEASE NOTE De Gaulle gave the nuclear tech to Israel without US knowledge in the 1950’s as he was pissed at the American because of the French/British Suez disaster.
Posted by: canuck | Apr 22 2025 14:44 utc | 149
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“You really have no business in discussion with adults if you can’t distinguish rhetoric from dialectic.”
Posted by: LoveDumbass | Apr 22 2025 14:19 utc | 145
Ha, ha is that another way of saying, “you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about”?
You are a joke.
Posted by: canuck | Apr 22 2025 14:46 utc | 150
Posted by: canuck | Apr 22 2025 12:50 utc | 138
The accusation of racism holds little weight from a genocide apologist.
Posted by: Meh | Apr 22 2025 15:15 utc | 151
You really have no business in discussion with adults if you can’t distinguish rhetoric from dialectic.
@ LoveDonbass | Apr 22 2025 14:19 utc | 145
Rhetoric and dialectic are not mutually exclusive distinctions (as you imply). American Heritage defines rhetoric as:
The art or study of using language effectively and persuasively.
Dialectic goes back at least to Aristotle, who distinguished between plain dialectic and honest dialectic. He frames dishonest contention as the fallback “plain” mode, while “honest” dialectic is what Plato presents in Socratic dialogs: conversation employed by all in a selfless search for truth. Both ends of both kinds of dialectic naturally employ effective, persuasive language (aka rhetoric) — a baseline competence for anyone speaking.
These two, honest versus plain dialectic, are presented as opposites, as mutually exclusive poles of a dichotomy. Contenders for argumentative victory, i.e. “plain” dialecticians, lack the discipline and rigor required to reach elusive truths.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 22 2025 15:29 utc | 152
Re: Israel’s nuke weapons history,
there are numerous articles out there. Below are links to just 2.
In the 50s, Israel was given peaceful technology by France & stole components & plans for weapons in bits & pieces from other countries, including Iran, & including the US.
Also in the 60s probably stole highly enriched uranium from the US (a Pennsylvania site).
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/15/truth-israels-secret-nuclear-arsenal
Israeli whistle blower Mordechai Vanunu revealed details & pics of Israel’s Dimona weapons program & has been mostly imprisoned since he was caught in a Mossad honey trap.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/28/mordechai-vanunu-israel-spying-nuclear-1988
Posted by: Mary | Apr 22 2025 15:40 utc | 153
Israeli whistle blower Mordechai Vanunu revealed details & pics of Israel’s Dimona weapons program & has been mostly imprisoned since he was caught in a Mossad honey trap.
Posted by: Mary | Apr 22 2025 15:40 utc | 153
For some reason some people on this forum seem to have memory-holed Mordechai – just as the Zionist Occupation wanted.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 22 2025 16:53 utc | 154
Palestinians are brilliant –in only three-quarters of a century they’ve learned what took the Irish four centuries to learn.
Posted by: Ben Trovata | Apr 22 2025 14:39 utc | 147
The Irish, sadly, have still not learned. If they had they’d have kicked the English out properly.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 22 2025 16:54 utc | 155
“And no, Israel did not steal any tactical nuclear weapons from US stockpiles.”
Posted by: Ed4 | Apr 21 2025 21:14 utc | 117
Posted by: LoveDumbass | Apr 21 2025 21:32 utc | 118
Posted by: canuck | Apr 22 2025 12:00 utc | 136
Aren’t you all tripping over semantics here?
– Tactical Nuclear Weapons != Strategic Nuclear Weapons
– Nuclear Weapons Materials != Nuclear Weapons (not yet weaponised)
– Nuclear Weapons Materials != Nuclear Weapons Assembly
– Nuclear Weapons Assembly != Tactical Nuclear weapons
Where’s Ritter to split hairs for us …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 22 2025 16:59 utc | 156
Footage of the Hamas ambush on IDF in Northern Gaza:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAUFgmvLVV4
Ignore the dramatic headlining, it’s an Indian news agency and Indians love nothing more than to pour tons of curry, bayleaves and turmeric on every damn thing to overspice it.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 22 2025 17:04 utc | 157
@149 canuck
“…gave the nuclear tech to Israel without US knowledge in the 1950’s …”
It is not possible to be sure the US had no knowledge of that. I expect they did.
“Wikipedia-are you serious? Controlled by the Zionist…”
Another source which lists all of the various theories ? As far as I am concerned, info is info, the rest is “due diligence”.
That said, I much dislike various slants wikipedia presents. Much of that is common across media however, particularly the repeated complete over inclusion and emphasis of ‘semitic’, ‘hebrew’, ‘jewish’ etc. . In academia as a whole this is very prevalent also, on any historical topic remotely related to the levant, or even any other theme where such can be included in any way.
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 22 2025 17:41 utc | 158
@ canuck
For example:
“As mentioned, one of the new documents is a Joint Atomic Energy Intelligence Committee report from December 1960. Its statements that the French-Israeli nuclear project in the Negev Desert would include a “plutonium separation plant” and that the Dimona reactor was unequivocally for weapons purposes were rare claims. To the knowledge of the editors, this is the first and only U.S. intelligence document that categorically and explicitly maintained that the Dimona site would include a plant to separate plutonium from spent reactor fuel for the purposes of making weapons. Subsequent declassified reports treated a reprocessing plant as something that did not yet exist and said that its construction would probably require a new political decision by the Israeli leadership.”
https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/nuclear-vault/2024-12-17/1960-intelligence-report-said-israeli-nuclear-site-was
Which, if approached cynically, is only to skim the surface of “who knew what” . It does go back to the question of who or what is meant when the word “US” is used, and whether political presentation was purposeful ambiguity or deniability, or if leadership was actually uninformed, or misinformed.
The US might even have been part of arranging french technology transfer, or quite possibly would have known to being played off against france, and so the purpose of the nuclear ambitions.
In those days, countries and particularly the US, did not “just happen to overlook” the evolution of nuclear capability of others.
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 22 2025 18:12 utc | 159
Two well known Syrians who support the Palestinians and demonstrated against genocide in Gaza, are arrested in Syria, not long after the treacherous b*stard and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas – meets with the Western backed proscribed terrorist and head chopper, al Jolani – the Western backed terrorist outfit are also allies of Israel.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 22 2025 18:31 utc | 160
Journalist Sohaib Al-Masalma
•”The White House:
President Trump will visit Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the UAE from May 13 to 16.”
Journalist Youssef Fares
•”A quadcopter dropped incendiary bombs on displaced people’s tents in the “Ard al-Bardini” area on al-Sikka Street in the Shuja’iyya neighborhood east of Gaza City, without casualties.”
•”The Israeli occupation army informs the local councils of the settlements surrounding Gaza that it is about to carry out heavy bombing and shelling operations in Gaza tonight, and that the sounds of explosions will be heard widely and loudly.”
Journalist Ayman Hanideq
•”A photo documenting the Israeli occupation forces storming the Grand Mosque in Jenin camp and turning it into a military barracks.”
https://t.me/NewsPs0/174711
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 22 2025 19:34 utc | 161
@133 JB
Polls are often confusing, questions asked and ‘ways out’ prepared. In that poll 26% declined to answer, 27% were strongly against government policy, 32% were against government policy, 12% agreed and 3% agreed strongly. The ipsos poll is linked at
https://www.dutchnews.nl/2025/04/support-for-dutch-cabinets-israel-policy-is-falling-survey/
Note they are asked about their own government, not if they agree with “Israeli” actions :-/
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 22 2025 19:51 utc | 162
The Grayzone Live: Max Blumenthal & Aaron Mate
https://x.com/MaxBlumenthal/status/1914757944794632697
“Signal’s blinking red…”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 22 2025 19:52 utc | 163
That Hegseth of all people is deemed insufficiently pro-war demonstrates the extremism of the DC war machine. He’s enthusiastically bombing Yemen; got Trump to pardon US war criminals in Iraq; has cheered multiple wars.
But any reluctance to attack Iran is supremely heretical.
https://x.com/ggreenwald/status/1914684834041008296
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The debacle of recklessly circulating war plans in a Signal chat — after adding Jeffrey Goldberg — was Mike Waltz’s ineptitude, not Hegseth’s.
But Waltz is pure neocon and warmonger: the Mike Pompeo of Trump 2.0. So there’s no interest in blaming him.
https://x.com/ggreenwald/status/1914685426402500918
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 22 2025 20:49 utc | 164
Some traditional folk music all the way from the US of A
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sjzZh6-h9fM
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 22 2025 22:01 utc | 165
Journalist Ayman Hanideq
“Again, violent bombing east of Gaza City.
22:29
Yemeni media:
US aggression on Al-Barh area in Maqbanah district in Taiz.
23:01
Earthquake, lord God
23:02
Very violent bombing in Rafah
23:02
Hearing the sound of shelling in Khan Yunis
208views
23:03
Initial information indicates that the bombing occurred in the vicinity of the Al-Fahm area in Bani Suhaila, east of Khan Yunis.
23:03
A group of citizens were targeted in the eastern Satar area, near the Agha station in Khan Yunis.
23:07
A group of citizens were targeted….
A tent sheltering displaced people
23:08”
“Trump: We will see what happens in Gaza, and we have made great progress in the Middle East.”
🇺🇸
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 22 2025 22:22 utc | 166
#26 MQ9 downed today.
All air losses to YAF and attrition so far.
https://t.me/boris_rozhin/162163
Posted by: Suresh | Apr 22 2025 22:51 utc | 167
#26 MQ9 downed today.
that’s $780 million in lost reapers alone, trying to defend Israels genocide.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 22 2025 23:23 utc | 168
“For a colonized people the most essential value, because the most concrete, is first and foremost the land: the land which will bring them bread and, above all, dignity.” ― Frantz Fanon, The Wretched of the Earth
see the 35-second video at the first link.
https://x.com/EyeonPalestine/status/1914400234559468011
Eye on Palestine @EyeonPalestine
Scenes from the city of Rafah published today by Israeli soldiers showing the bombing of a residential block in the city.
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1914309599995347249
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
Israel has effectively abandoned its prisoners in Gaza, prioritizing the destruction of the Strip and the forced displacement of Palestinians over the lives of its own citizens.
The founding principle of “never leave anyone behind,” once a cornerstone of Israeli military and national identity, has been discarded. In its place stands a new doctrine—one where the lives of Israeli captives are expendable, sacrificed for the ideological ambitions of the extremist leadership now in power. The goal is no longer recovery, but conquest.
https://x.com/blackintheempir/status/1914119525316038757
Black in the Empire @blackintheempir
A brief history of the US Govt the last 35 years
Gulf War – “Killing 500,000 children was worth it” Albright
Lies about WMDs in Iraq and attacks them
Destroys Libya- “We came, we saw. he died”- Hillary
Spends trillions and 20 years in Afghanistan-Taliban regains control in days
Spends 10 years trying to remove Assad-He is replaced by a known terrorist
Uses Ukraine in a losing proxy war against Russia
Helps Israel commit a genocide in Gaza
Tell me about how evil other countries are again
Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 22 2025 23:34 utc | 169
Yaffa school, shelter for displaced people bombed and on fire, 5 killed/martyred as of now (not graphic)…
https://t.me/hossamsshbat/41138
“Buildings razed to the ground in Rafah.
According to estimates, calculations indicate that about 60% of the city of Rafah has been completely destroyed.
When including uninhabitable buildings, the percentage may rise to 75% of the city’s total.
– In red : Buildings razed to the ground
– In black : Buildings uninhabitable”
https://t.me/GazaNewsNow/404328
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 22 2025 23:44 utc | 170
https://x.com/falasteen47/status/1912380255823933842
Robert Inlakesh @falasteen47
Israel’s Security Minister just said he wants to commit genocide openly:
“If the decision were in my hands, I would bomb the food sources in Gaza so that they would have no food left, and I would blow up the generators to cut off their electricity completely.”
Western Media?
https://x.com/jasonhickel/status/1913310803056620013
Jason Hickel @jasonhickel
This is 25-year-old Palestinian photojournalist Fatima Hassouna. It was just announced that she is the subject of a new documentary, to be screened at a festival in France. Hours later she was massacred by Israeli soldiers together with 10 members of her family.
https://x.com/MiddleEastEye/status/1912922314515124231
Middle East Eye @MiddleEastEye
Palestinian photographer Fatima Hassouna was killed, along with nine members of her family, in an Israeli airstrike that targeted their home in Gaza on Wednesday.
Hassouna, who had gained international recognition for her photojournalism documenting the impact of Israel’s military campaign on Gaza’s civilian population, was the central figure in a documentary by French-Iranian director Sepideh Farsi, set to premiere at Cannes in May.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 22 2025 23:55 utc | 171
Important: France working with “Israel” to remove trained/qualified people from Gaza.
Gaza News Now
“Head of the Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor, Rami Abdo, reveals to Safa News Agency the involvement of the French embassy in coordinating with the occupation to displace Gaza’s skilled workers:
▪️We have obtained critical and confirmed information proving the involvement of the French Embassy in Jerusalem, in coordination with the Israeli occupation army, in implementing a plan to displace Palestinian talent from Gaza.
▪️We confirm that the evacuation operations target PhD holders, doctors, engineers, historians, and cultural and archaeology specialists.
▪️We have monitored a new deportation operation planned for tomorrow, Wednesday, taking place in complete secrecy and under the direct protection of the Israeli military.
▪️The deportees are being gathered at dawn in the central Gaza Strip and transported to Ramon Airport under air cover, with talk of them being later transferred to Jordan via the King Hussein Bridge.
▪️We affirm that France is involved in a broad Israeli plan to empty Gaza of its scientific and humanitarian elite, in coordination with the occupation.
▪️The occupation government has established a special unit to handle the displacement of Palestinians in an organized and phased manner, starting with those with higher education degrees.
▪️We consider French-Israeli cooperation in the displacement of Palestinians a flagrant violation of international law and places France before grave moral and legal responsibility.
▪️We note that France has not opened any investigations into the thousands of dual nationals who served in the occupation army and participated in committing war crimes in Gaza.
▪️We warn that the displacement of Palestinian minds is the soft side of the crime, and what the occupation is unable to achieve through bombing, it attempts to implement through fraudulent humanitarian corridors.
▪️We demand an urgent international investigation, considering the displacement of the Palestinian elite a grave humanitarian crime and part of the ongoing genocide against the people of Gaza.”
https://t.me/GazaNewsNow/404337
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 22 2025 23:59 utc | 172
see the before and after image at the first link.
https://x.com/SuppressedNws/status/1914797990948291001
Suppressed News. @SuppressedNws
The image shows the impact of Israel’s aggression on Yaroun, southern Lebanon.
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1914756826953818524
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
⭕️ The Yemeni armed Forces announce to have shot down another MQ-9 Reaper Drone (the 22nd in total) & have launched Cruise Missiles & Drones towards the American Aircraft Carrier USS Vinson & USS Truman.
https://x.com/ecomarxi/status/1914740504194895940
Tiberius @ecomarxi
In case I haven’t said it lately:
FUCK THE NAZI APARTHEID COLONY OF ISRAEL AND EVERY SINGLE ONE OF ITS CITIZENS AND COWARDLY, PATHETIC ADVOCATES AROUND THE WORLD
Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 23 2025 1:06 utc | 173
https://x.com/FranceskAlbs/status/1914783432862998947
Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur oPt @FranceskAlbs
1/3. Listening to the voices from Gaza, especially the youngest, is truly heart-wrenching. I am committed to amplifying your message, children, and I will.🧵
https://x.com/pchrgaza/status/1914372646365503592
Palestinian Centre for Human Rights – PCHR @pchrgaza
Representatives of Palestine Children’s Council, established and supervised by the Palestinian Centre for Human Rights in the #Gaza Strip while sponsored in the West Bank by Defence for Children International – Palestine, held a Zoom meeting with Ms. @FranceskAlbs , the UN Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the occupied Palestinian territory. During the meeting,…..
https://x.com/FranceskAlbs/status/1914783436360892767
Francesca Albanese, UN Special Rapporteur oPt @FranceskAlbs
2/3. Meanwhile, let me recall: in October 2023 I delivered a report that should have shocked the world.
This is what I said, as I presented: “Generations of Palestinian children, whether in the besieged Gaza Strip, the West Bank enclaves or annexed east Jerusalem, have seen their lives reduced to the bare minimum and, far too often, cut short as expendable… This is profoundly “unchilding”: it takes away the lightness of childhood and robs children of their future”.
To give a sense of the targedy: in the nearly 15 years before Oct. 2023, Israel had:
– killed nearly 1,500 Palestinian children (1,000+ in Gaza alone)
– orphaned
– 100 of thousands
– injured 32,000+, many maimed for life
– arrested an verage 500-700 Palestinian children arrested per yearly.
https://x.com/FranceskAlbs/status/1914783439158698230
3/3. Read the full report:
https://www.ohchr.org/en/documents/country-reports/a78545-situation-human-rights-palestinian-territories-occupied-1967
A/78/545: Situation of human rights in the Palestinian territories occupied since 1967
Summary
Children comprise half of the Palestinian population under Israel’s 56-year-old settler-colonial occupation. As a party to the Convention on the Rights of the Child and the Occupying Power in the occupied Palestinian territory, Israel is obliged to prioritise the best interests of all children under its jurisdiction. Yet, Israel subjects Palestinian children to severe physical and psychological trauma, burdening them with fears and challenges that no child should bear. The absence of accountability for Israel’s actions has emboldened its disregard for international obligations……
Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 23 2025 2:36 utc | 174
🇮🇱🇺🇸Trump names former Israeli Defense Ministry staffer Merav Ceren as Israel–Iran director at National Security Council.
‼️How is a foreign national allowed to hold such a position in the US government?
https://x.com/dana916/status/1914787177805840887
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 23 2025 3:18 utc | 175
@Polli
There are no Israelis, ordinary or otherwise. There is no Israeli nationality. The only nationality is Jew since 2018. They really should change the name to Jewdistan. The only nationality is religious so non-Jews are not citizens.
And since Israel has no official or declared borders one could argue that Israel does not exist either. The fake state of hate needs to be eradicated. It is a myth as it always has been.
Ansar Allah got their 22nd Reaper recently.
They also hit somewhere in the Occupation with a hypersonic weapon.
Hamas has started engaging the IDF in door-to-door combat again. There is a funny video of a small unit of Israeli special forces facing one Hamas guy and they were freaking out like they had never experienced gunfire before.
Israeli military prowess is one of the biggest myths that the Resistance has shattered. The Israelis can drop bombs on unarmed women and children from an altitude where they don’t get shot at.
If the Zionists engage Iran, I think the remainder of the IDF air force (those that still report for duty) may get their lunches handed to them. Iran has a lot of AD now, and very sophisticated radar.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 23 2025 4:44 utc | 177
R2R: Laith Marouf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UH7a7zzeI
‘The extreme violence of the US and Israel cannot conceal their profound weakness.’
“Dimitri Lascaris discusses the state of the conflicts in West Asia with Beirut-based geopolitical analyst Laith Marouf, Executive Director of Free Palestine TV, which can be found here…”
Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 23 2025 5:08 utc | 178
R2R: Laith Marouf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UH7a7zzeEI
corrected from above
Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 23 2025 5:14 utc | 179
Video of IDF guys losing it in a firefight with commentary
1 minute 45 seconds
https://x.com/gregjstoker/status/1914798856287735842
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 23 2025 6:05 utc | 181
and the new syrian terrorist leadership will probably do exactly all that – and then some
this isn’t ‘negotiations’ with the US, but just a bunch of demands to give up one’s sovereignty
makes me long for the good old days with Assad, even with all his faults etc etc
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1914914125211226471
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
In its bid to restore relations, the United States has presented a set of conditions to Syria’s de facto self-proclaimed president, Ahmad al-Shara’, long known as Abu Mohammad al-Joulani. Among them is a demand for an explicit mandate allowing US forces to carry out “counterterrorism operations on Syrian soil against any individual deemed a threat to US national security”—a move reminiscent of Israel’s target-killing in Lebanon and Gaza, widely regarded as violations of national sovereignty.
The US also requested a public declaration banning all Palestinian resistance groups and their political activities in Syria, along with the deportation of their members in a way that reassures Israel.
Additional demands include the complete removal of Iranian military presence from Syrian territory and the official designation of both the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) and Hezbollah as terrorist organisations.
Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 23 2025 7:30 utc | 182
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 23 2025 4:44 utc | 177
As predicted months ago, the Resistance will pace itself.
It’s the way the’ve always behaved.
They may seem inactive at times but they always reappear.
They know the battle will be long, perhaps decades.
If I was israel I’d prepare my return to Europe, knowing there is no victory here.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 23 2025 7:34 utc | 183
michaelj72 182
Trump’s progress in the Middle East is an optical illusion because the rest of the world is reversing.
Posted by: Giyane | Apr 23 2025 8:59 utc | 184
G’orn Kneecap!
Musicians finally returning to political truth telling.
Causing melt down amongst the slinky slag media Karen princess’s !
‘Tony Montana
@9mmScorpion
Apr 22
Nobody… nobody in the world;
jews and their zionest, “how can we brain wash the younger generation?”
Apr 22, 2025 · 1:00 AM UTC ‘
Good band by the way, also Bob Vylan – not created Frankenstein Boy Bande with bland bullshit propaganda gaylord bands that have come off the production line since the 80’s spreading natziofascism to the western yoof.
The Tide has turned. The illegal apartheid entities days are numbered.
They are a cornered man made monster – owned and set up by our Anglo European fascist imperilaists as a base for the C21st colonialism. They proudly claim a nation where there never was, for a ‘race’ that never was, in the name of their religion which never existed before they ‘converted’ to it. As the ancient Slave owners and Ttaders of EurAsia. Now directing their efforts from the Hearts Of That Falling Decrepit Empire.
Here the fabulous Margarita’s induce a total melt down by the natzionazi harridan of the fake Wasrael monstrosity as it is challenged to stop being hypocritical. It’s funny how they hide behind being ‘women’ whilst cheering on mass murder of native babies and children of lands they covet!
(Both links via the fabulous as ever @GeromanAT)
‘ Margarita Simonyan
@M_Simonyan
20h
A fiery back-and-forth after we asked Israeli foreign ministry spokesperson if Israel will give up its nuclear weapons if Iran’s nuclear program is dismantled.
“Israel is not a threat to anyone. We don’t have any ambitions in any other country. Iran has ambition in the entire Middle East.”
Take that as a “No”.
Apr 22, 2025 · 1:42 PM UTC ‘
Lol – what I find interesting is that the RF upper echelons appear to have moved to open criticism of the illegal apartheid entity immediately after the ratification of the strategic partnership with Iran and China.
It means that the cavalry is now able to charge alongside the Ansar Allah, fearless ancient Yemenis, to rid the whole Levant and west Asia,of the Shapeshifters Last Colonialism Ambitions.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 23 2025 10:52 utc | 185
My Trump Delusional Syndrome is aching this morning. How can a man sitting on the chair of Potus believe that bombing natives in sandals and women and children starving in temts is progress?
They took Mrs Thatcher away from her position when she created this level of hypercdogmatic delirious about council tax. Trump has surrounded himself with incapacitated people. Homeless people begging outside supermarkets have a greater grip on reality than Witkof and the neocons.
Muslims pray to connect with reality.
But what can a potus do when their job is to a certain extent to make reality?
What benefit to do a job which constantly tells you you are a total failure? Scumbags around you are constantly frustrating whatever good you want to do.
In his first term he seemed to know as a rule of thumb to always do the opposite of what his advisors told him to do.
Now, even if he commanded Nutcase to send food into Gaza, Nutcase will tell him he’s only following Potus orders to evacuate Gaza. Nutmania rules. OK?
Everything they do is a disaster.
Posted by: Giyane | Apr 23 2025 10:57 utc | 186
god, more people burned to death in Gaza:
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Ten martyrs were burned to death in the targeting of a shelter on Jaffa Street in the Tuffah neighborhood east of Gaza City. They were burned in the early hours of the morning, burned in the dead of night… burned while they slept!
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/youseffares19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
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Trump says we are making great progresss in the ME. I wonder if he means like the same way his tariffs work real swell:
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Trump: We will not allow Hamas to continue to rule the Gaza Strip.
Trump: We will see what happens in Gaza, and we have made great progress in the Middle East.
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/gazanewsnow2021?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
BREAKING: President Trump announces that the United States will substantially lower tariffs on China
‘Tariffs on China will not be 145%, but they also won’t be zero. We’re working with China, and we’re very happy with them’ – Trump.
https://t.me/s/Middle_East_Spectator/
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Very detailed article by Dennis Kucinich (I am only posting a part of it) on how the gross bombing of Gaza is producing dangerous microparticles that blow into Israel and create health issues similar to the deleterious effects 9/11 had on first responders’ health His article has much info on the types of bombs, heat and wind factors, etc. Several countries are being affected by this, thanks to Israel:
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War Dust and Collateral Inhalation: Israel Breathes in Gaza’s Dust
Gaza is suffering the most intense bombing, per capita, of anywhere on earth, ever.
Over 100,000 tons of bombs have been dropped on Gaza, an area slightly smaller than the City of Detroit, Michigan, resulting in the recorded deaths of at least 60,000 Gazans and injuries to hundreds of thousands.¹
It is impossible to overstate the effects of the abominable bombing war on Gazans, their lives, their families, their health, and their communities.
What has escaped attention up until now is the undeniable environmental and health effects of the bombing of Gazans on Israelis, as well as on citizens of neighboring states, and the potential harm to U.S. military personnel in the region.
A study of explosion physics based on declassified Department of Defense data, as well as blast temperature data and consequent emissions; a review of wind patterns, together with publicly available data of health effects from 9/11, as well as data gathered from U.S. veterans of the Persian Gulf War, yield a shocking conclusion.
Israel, in executing the unprecedented bombing attack on Gaza, is, in effect, bombing itself, with grave consequences for the public health of its people.² What is being visited upon Gaza does not stay in Gaza.
The sustained bombing of Gaza pulverizes stone, heavy metals, and the human body. The vaporizing of human beings under extreme heat and pressure combines with dust, water vapor, and metallic particles the size of microns, all blasted upwards, aerosolized, wind-driven across borders, into Israel and surrounding countries.³
The unlimited bombing of Gaza has created an unparalleled ecological and biomedical feedback loop. Israel exhales death in Gaza and inhales the Gaza it has vaporized.
Israel, in bombing neighboring Gaza, is breathing in its own fallout, along with the vaporized remains of its declared enemies. The external consequences of violence becomes internalized. The substance of the oppressed communes with the oppressor.
On a clinical level, breathing in bioaerosols can compromise human immune systems.⁴ Breathing in ultrafine particles from non-biological war dust can cross the blood-brain barrier and contribute to neurodegenerative disease.⁵
Israel and the Palestinians share a common atmosphere. They inhale the same war dust, from bomb materials, carbon soot, and the fine particle remains of vaporized Gazans.
Human cremation occurs at temperatures between 1,400°F and 1,800°F.⁶ The blast temperatures of the bombs identified as being dropped on Gaza—MK-84 bombs: 4,496°F; GBU-39s: 4,892°F; BLU-109s: 3,632°F—far exceed this range.⁷ In comparison, blast furnaces used to melt steel operate at 2,500°F to 2,800°F.⁸ […]
https://kucinichreport.substack.com/p/war-dust-and-collateral-inhalation?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1441588&post_id=161954438&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=1fkpdx&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email
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Posted by: teri | Apr 23 2025 13:38 utc | 187
Laith Marouf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLvOIaEDC8k
“Yemen fights back like never before.”
And a Gaza update. ‘The Zionists are not going to stop…only force will end this genocide.’
Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 23 2025 13:51 utc | 188
Dialectic goes back at least to Aristotle, who distinguished between plain dialectic and honest dialectic. He frames dishonest contention as the fallback “plain” mode, while “honest” dialectic is what Plato presents in Socratic dialogs: conversation employed by all in a selfless search for truth. Both ends of both kinds of dialectic naturally employ effective, persuasive language (aka rhetoric) — a baseline competence for anyone speaking.
Aleph_Null | 152
Yep. Aristotle expounds on the thought in his Topic, and provides a scheme to distinguish several classes of formal arguments, with the aim to further discussion.
This has been badly misunderstood with the conflation of ousia οὐσία – the first – with (lat.) substance. According to Erwin Sonderegger, we should understand that οὐσία has been shown to be, generally, dependent on a regard (dt. Hinsicht). The problem is already apparent to Plato, one might even speculate the Academy is built upon that discovery; and with the end of the Academy, the insight is again lost to the Abendland.
One example of the resultant misunderstanding of dialectics is Hegel, though his one is especially ideosyncratic, as he also conflates truth and observation in his teleogical concept of the Weltgeist, as in a limes value to close off an otherwise open set (Dasein, in this case, where truth and observation are unfinished). That’s why I’m no Hegelianer.
Posted by: persiflo | Apr 23 2025 13:52 utc | 189
If I was israel I’d prepare my return to Europe, knowing there is no victory here.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 23 2025 7:34 utc | 183
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That is the plan.
This is a war of wills. A test of steadfastness.
As long as Palestinians remain, Palestine exists.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 23 2025 13:54 utc | 190
In this Grayzone interview Max mentions ‘The Lobby’ – a documentary exposing the heinous mindset and enormous control of the zionist lobby:
https://archive.org/details/TheLobbyUSA
I had not heard of it before, so I thought I’d post it here. It has been successfully censored under pressure from the zionist lobby. Al Jazeera did not air it, despite being it’s producer. No other station has received the rights to it. It is however still available on youtube.
It is an undercover investigation with hidden camera and comes with highest recommendation.
Posted by: Hamburger | Apr 23 2025 14:36 utc | 191
Headlines full, headlines empty … as all continues on its dismal path.
Notes for now, not time to link:
Abbas calls resistance sons of dogs, a strong reaction from many sides against him.
Putin pledges wheat to fatah.
“Israel” destroys all Palestinian machinery gifted by Egypt, civilian “Israeli” machinery in Rafah is now pulling down buildings.
130 Palestinians ‘deported’/’voluntarily migrated’ from Gaza by France/”Israel”. Outcry. What you see here is the true french position at work, tied into globalist positions in UN and EU, and euro-arab regionalism, its hegemony. See a previous post on that deportation story.
Truce offer Hamas Egypt and Qatar, “Israel” says “must consider before launching new offensive”.
Starvation continues.
Killing continues.
Murder of children by “Israel” and US continues.
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 23 2025 14:41 utc | 192
@ persiflo | Apr 23 2025 13:52 utc | 189
Thanks for that. Hegel intrigues me and others, perhaps for filling in the philosophical gaps skipped over by Marx, enough that a prominent thinker like Sartre could dump Existentialism for Marxism. Sartre’s conversion confuses me, as I always thought of Marxism as a more strictly economic philosophy, not a general system on the level of Hegel’s or Kant’s. My ignorance of all three (Sartre, Hegel, Marx) is mind-boggling.
Aristotle’s “honest dialectic” is a hopeful prescription, standing for the possibility of conversation sometimes getting somewhere, rather than forever batted back and forth by ping-pong champions. My neck gets tired.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 23 2025 15:12 utc | 193
Qassam Brigades release a video of Israeli captive Omri Miran, who is celebrating his birthday for the second time in Gaza, with the following caption:
“Because of you, we are all here! You are pushing this country to collapse.”
2:46 video
https://x.com/TheCradleMedia/status/1915051673778606515
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 23 2025 15:14 utc | 194
Grim interview with Norman Finklestein
https://consortiumnews.com/2025/04/22/the-chris-hedges-report-on-emptying-gaza/
“I think the goal of the assault on Gaza that began on October 8th, the goal or the objective is perfectly clear. There hasn’t been really much in the way of disguising it. And the goal is to once and for all solve the Gaza question…
And so it’s an opportunity which I don’t believe the Israelis will let pass. Right now, the aim is, one, to make Gaza uninhabitable, and two, to break the will of the people…
Q. are there any impediments that you can foresee that would stop Israel from depopulating Gaza, any external impediments. Obviously, there are none internally in Israel.
A. I think about that every day. I really do. You know you’re looking for that magic bullet. You’re looking for that miracle. I don’t see it.
Posted by: jayc | Apr 23 2025 15:45 utc | 196
Posted by: jayc | Apr 23 2025 15:45 utc | 196
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The flip side is that Norman probably didn’t see the Yemeni blockade or the solidarity between Iran, Russia, and China.
There are always surprises. Good and bad.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 23 2025 16:01 utc | 197
Euro-Mediterranean Human Rights Monitor, Rami Abdo, reveals to Safa News Agency the involvement of the French embassy in coordinating with the occupation to displace Gaza’s skilled workers:
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 22 2025 23:59 utc | 172
This is a shocking crime, a new one, by the Western colonialist criminal states, against the Palestinians and against humanity.
Can France represent anything but a criminal, outlaw after everything, and after this?
Who in their right mind can take this state that abducts Palestinians for US/Israel goals as anything but a contemptible mobster.
This grave crime should immediately be stopped. The perpetrator, France, should be universally condemned, starting with the UN.
Posted by: JB | Apr 23 2025 19:09 utc | 198
with respect to Arch Bungle [ my thoughts had been of the Tudors to Parnell ] “The Scotch [ i.e., the Ulster-Scot settlers, the same folk who were later to find such success in the American colonial period.] from their puritanism, were the most terrible enemies of Catholic Ireland; but they were new enemies, whilst their inveterate enemies, the enemies of five centuries, were… the English of Henry II…. Henry VIII., and Elizabeth… and plundering settlers. –Gustave de Beaumont.”
Posted by: Ben Trovata | Apr 23 2025 19:31 utc | 199
@198 JB
It is hardly in the news, a search in french gives an earlier (19th April) …
“À Paris, des réfugiés palestiniens retrouvent leurs proches évacués de Gaza
Une cinquantaine de rescapés de l’enclave palestinienne ont pu être évacués, en lien avec les autorités françaises..”
… and the rest current in french is “Israeli” press, a couple of articles along same lines as above … “rescued, evacuated, for family reunification…” etc.
It would be difficult to make a case against france because these were “voluntary humanitarian displacements” … as it would be for the other 2 million Palestinians 🙁
There is talk of turning Rafah into an “aid zone” aka refugee camp, no doubt with “options to leave Gaza” .
France (and EU) did the same with Syria, civil war and human trafficking, bureaucratic self funding and own population demolition. There are very bad people behind all of this, with indecent and corrupt motives, dressed up as in of helping others…they are a large part of the reason a lot of these conflicts are started, and continue.
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 23 2025 20:48 utc | 200