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April 20, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-085
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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How about we start the day by not blaming a collective noun; and make suggestions on how ordinary Israeli’s (Jews, Bedouin, Druze) can actually do something to defuse the idiocracy that rules through fear and is paid well for it. Posted by: Polli | Apr 20 2025 13:15 utc | 1 Israel Considers ‘Limited Strike’ on Iran – Reuters Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 20 2025 13:28 utc | 2 Breaking… Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 20 2025 13:46 utc | 3 Posted by: Polli | Apr 20 2025 13:15 utc | 1 Posted by: longtime firsttime | Apr 20 2025 13:47 utc | 4 That the Apartheid State, considering a limited strike on Iran? Will there be resistance? Is there anyone that can resist? Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Apr 20 2025 13:54 utc | 5 Re: Anti-Genocide Israel‘s ? Posted by: Exile | Apr 20 2025 13:59 utc | 6 Posted by: longtime firsttime | Apr 20 2025 13:47 utc | 4 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 20 2025 14:19 utc | 7 How about we start the day by not blaming a collective noun… Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 20 2025 14:26 utc | 8 Ordinary Israelis? Posted by: Polli | Apr 20 2025 14:27 utc | 9 @Polli Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 20 2025 14:29 utc | 10 China now getting blame for houthis. Somewhat pathetic propaganda. That Chinese drones and satelites are propping up Yemen. Posted by: Hankster | Apr 20 2025 14:43 utc | 11 Devious Zionist Israel [supported by the Outlaw US of A] needs to be neutralized at all costs. Posted by: pepe | Apr 20 2025 14:45 utc | 12 Judaism is deeply flawed and racist. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 20 2025 14:47 utc | 13 https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-04-20/ty-article/.premium/idf-probe-soldiers-shot-did-not-execute-15-gaza-aid-workers-over-tangible-threat/00000196-532d-de6e-a597-7ffda6e30000 Posted by: Polli | Apr 20 2025 14:50 utc | 14 They really think that Israel can bomb anything, more likely that they are bombing what they can, as a shock and awe advertisement for antisemitism. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 20 2025 15:02 utc | 15 Zionists are demonstrated to be like human monsters . . . inhuman. Posted by: Nothingburgers | Apr 20 2025 15:15 utc | 16 Many posters seem to not have much understanding of Israeli society. Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 20 2025 15:17 utc | 17 Polii Posted by: Minaa | Apr 20 2025 15:35 utc | 18 Islamic scripture: that it implicitly tolerates slavery — which has always been deeply flawed and racist. Posted by: sal | Apr 20 2025 15:36 utc | 19 Thirty (30) heavy military cargo planes from the Outlaw US of A have landed in the occupied Jaffa neighborhood since Saturday, January 25 this year, the day the ceasefire was declared but later broken by Netanyahoo. Posted by: pepe | Apr 20 2025 15:36 utc | 20 How about we start the day by not blaming a collective noun; and make suggestions on how ordinary Israeli’s (Jews, Bedouin, Druze) can actually do something to defuse the idiocracy that rules through fear and is paid well for it. Posted by: malenkov | Apr 20 2025 16:13 utc | 21 Islamic scripture: that it implicitly tolerates slavery — which has always been deeply flawed and racist. Posted by: canuck | Apr 20 2025 16:40 utc | 22 Israel Considers ‘Limited Strike’ on Iran – Reuters Posted by: Bob | Apr 20 2025 16:55 utc | 23 Islamic scripture: that it implicitly tolerates slavery — which has always been deeply flawed and racist. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 20 2025 17:11 utc | 24 How about we start the day by not blaming a collective noun; and make suggestions on how ordinary Israeli’s (Jews, Bedouin, Druze) can actually do something to defuse the idiocracy that rules through fear and is paid well for it. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 20 2025 17:16 utc | 25 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 20 2025 14:47 utc | 13 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 20 2025 17:20 utc | 26 Imo, the Sudan conflict, ignited by the Rapid Response Forces, has got Wasrael’s ISIS fingerprints all over it. The sooner Wasrael is Nuked the peacefuller the World will become. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 20 2025 17:25 utc | 27 Slavery didn’t start with the ATlantic slave trade. Posted by: Jane | Apr 20 2025 17:36 utc | 28 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 20 2025 17:25 utc | 27 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 20 2025 17:36 utc | 29 Repeating the set of local Palestine links…. Posted by: Ornot | Apr 20 2025 17:59 utc | 30 Khan Yunis and Its People: Posted by: Ornot | Apr 20 2025 18:15 utc | 31 Guys, don’t blame all Nazis. Posted by: ryanggg | Apr 20 2025 18:31 utc | 32 It would appear the Iraqi’s, don’t want anything to do with the Wests head-chopper in Syria. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 20 2025 18:39 utc | 33 Just to confuse things about slavery a bit more; meanwhile, back at the Ranch Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 20 2025 19:14 utc | 35 Though reporting is sparse now, especially in restricted areas, the little that is reaching outlets paints a very dismal picture. All bakeries are closed, UN related groups are stretching supplies to feed one million single meals a day to two million people. Anaemia recorded in hospitals is said at over 80% . Many are isolated from any help. Market prices for any available food are exorbitant, or put differently, there is not a market to speak of. I read an account by those taking refuge in a church, it is a drama merely to obtain water. The mood there has gone from trying to cheer one another up, to tension and unexplained outbursts of anger towards each other. Civil rescue fuel will run out shortly, meaning no attendance to bomb sites that might be accessible, no ferrying the wounded. The list is much longer than the above. Posted by: Ornot | Apr 20 2025 19:32 utc | 36 Note; as the occupying power the Likud Gov’t is responsible for the safety and health of the Gaza population. If the non-combatants need to be moved to safe zones; they should be moved to safe zones inside Likud defined Israel. Jaffa, Beersheeba, Bethlehem, and Deir Yassin for example Posted by: Exile | Apr 20 2025 19:40 utc | 37 The “Israeli” attempted erasure of Palestinian presence is well documented for well over half a century. How methodical this is could not be clearer than the image comparison of Rafah center from just over a month ago to now shown below: Posted by: Ornot | Apr 20 2025 20:06 utc | 39 Wider picture today… Posted by: Ornot | Apr 20 2025 20:17 utc | 40 Starmer war on pro-Palestine speech moves to academia with detention of Prof Khoury-Machool Posted by: Red Star | Apr 20 2025 20:21 utc | 41 No one is forcing IDF soldiers and airman to murder Palestinian civilians including paramedics, firefighters, doctors, nurses, emts, ambulance drivers, civil police officers, city clerks, and sanitation workers etc., etc…… Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 20 2025 20:44 utc | 42 Even on Easter Sunday, the Holiest of Holy Days, the IDF continues its airstrikes on defenseless civilians, and assassinations…….apparently not satisfied with the ultimate decision of the Sanhedrin….. Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 20 2025 21:24 utc | 43 The Yemenis keep referencing having defeated US electromagnetic weapons that “also threaten Russia and China”. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 20 2025 21:29 utc | 44 see the 2:18 video at the fourth link – a glorious thing to behold Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 20 2025 22:55 utc | 45 Journalist Youssef Fares Posted by: Ornot | Apr 20 2025 23:00 utc | 46 ghouls Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 20 2025 23:17 utc | 47 Great video today from Alon Mizrahi. 33 minutes long. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 20 2025 23:26 utc | 48
Probably some EW suite carried by F/A-18 Growler aircraft. Other platforms are less likely. Directed energy weapons are out of place, and “mind rays” are pure imagination. Posted by: persiflo | Apr 20 2025 23:29 utc | 49 From the EA-18 link above: Posted by: persiflo | Apr 20 2025 23:35 utc | 50 Note there is talk of an Algerian general mobilisation. Possibly related to western Sahara, Mali, or various other. Being reported but not verified officialy as far as I am able to tell. Will just include one link Posted by: Ornot | Apr 20 2025 23:43 utc | 51 There were no “Hebrews of Pharaos”. This is all storytelling. As with the Ishtar myths that led to Easter, it was just the masculinization of ancient rites to replace fertility goddesses with patriarcal entities and narratives. Look at ancient Egyptian and Mesopotamian art, you will see women represented everywhere (even more so in Egypt actually). By adopting the narratives of the Old Testament, the Christians made a fatal mistake we still pay for. Posted by: Minaa | Apr 20 2025 23:47 utc | 52 Yahweh — Easter Posted by: Errata | Apr 20 2025 23:52 utc | 53 https://x.com/s_m_marandi/status/1914062921753346254 Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 21 2025 0:28 utc | 54 Humanity is and always has been bigger than “international law”. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 21 2025 0:38 utc | 55 Sure to raise your spirits about Palestine. Posted by: malenkov | Apr 21 2025 0:48 utc | 56 My great-great grandfather left Ireland during the Irish famine in 1851. He ended up working on a railroad in central USA a few years later. The railroad workers were laying track and blasting rock to make tunnels. Posted by: Menz | Apr 21 2025 1:03 utc | 57 @Menz | 60
Thanks for saying that. Posted by: persiflo | Apr 21 2025 1:29 utc | 58 I sense the trolls are back with a new strategy. After trying to appear clever didn’t help here, they are now trying to stupid the place. Posted by: persiflo | Apr 21 2025 1:31 utc | 59 “I sense the trolls are back with a new strategy. After trying to appear clever didn’t help here, they are now trying to stupid the place.” Posted by: Spectator | Apr 21 2025 1:46 utc | 60 Until “Israeli” Jews are killing each other in the streets. it’s nothing. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 21 2025 2:01 utc | 61 @Spectator | 64
I cannot define what makes a troll, but there is this specimen that is intentionally disruptive for non-immediate personal gains, i.e. the paid variety; I mean those here. As I believe it is important to be vigilant on that front, or they’ll fuck up the place. Posted by: persiflo | Apr 21 2025 2:22 utc | 62 Do not forget that yammering is one of their national pastimes. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 21 2025 2:36 utc | 63 Don’t confuse slavery with working conditions, they are not alike. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 21 2025 2:39 utc | 64 Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 20 2025 23:17 utc | 47 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 21 2025 2:42 utc | 65 Posted by: persiflo | Apr 21 2025 2:22 utc | 66 Posted by: Spectator | Apr 21 2025 2:45 utc | 66 I love listening to Barrister Ralph Wilde’s explanations on the Palestinian issue: Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 21 2025 4:09 utc | 67 I’m curious about the significance of the crimson red ties of Trump and Netanyahu at their recent tete a tete. Posted by: Giyane | Apr 21 2025 4:25 utc | 68 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 21 2025 4:09 utc | 71 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 21 2025 4:36 utc | 69 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 21 2025 4:36 utc | 72 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 21 2025 4:55 utc | 70 The Head Houthi in Charge (HHIC) states that USS Harry Truman has been struck and it’s operational control has been damaged: Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 21 2025 4:58 utc | 71 For the tally: Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 21 2025 5:02 utc | 72 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 21 2025 4:58 utc | 74 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 21 2025 5:44 utc | 73 I think I understand why the bombers are being based out of Diego Garcia, which I believe is largely in part to the Gulf monarchies not wanting to host them on US airbases in their countries. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 21 2025 5:49 utc | 74 see the photo at the first link: Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 21 2025 5:52 utc | 75 Re: Strike on IDF Jeep ? Posted by: Exile | Apr 21 2025 5:54 utc | 76 Re: Truman Struck ? Posted by: Exile | Apr 21 2025 6:03 utc | 77 As I trundle off to bed I want to share the latest war pron from Reuters
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 21 2025 6:04 utc | 78 Posted by: Exile | Apr 21 2025 6:03 utc | 77 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 21 2025 6:20 utc | 79 @ LoveDonbass | Apr 20 2025 17:20 utc | 26 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 21 2025 6:47 utc | 80 of Elizabeth Kucinich, who went there Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 21 2025 7:07 utc | 81 ☀️👀 Posted by: Menz | Apr 21 2025 8:00 utc | 82 Assal Rad Posted by: Menz | Apr 21 2025 8:04 utc | 83 Marwa Osman || مروة عثمان Posted by: Menz | Apr 21 2025 8:07 utc | 84 Pope Francis has died on Easter Monday at age of 88 Posted by: Apollyon | Apr 21 2025 8:19 utc | 85 68 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 21 2025 10:14 utc | 86 USS Truman hosts Passover events in Red Sea as strike group continues fight against Houthis | Stars and Stripes Posted by: Paul from Norway | Apr 21 2025 10:17 utc | 87 Nobody should believe Saudi Arabia is making a rapprochemnt Iran , while they are attacking Yemen and attacking Shia in Syria. Posted by: Giyane | Apr 21 2025 11:20 utc | 88 US bombs a market place in Yemen: Posted by: teri | Apr 21 2025 12:02 utc | 89 The Israeli government is blaming ‘professional failures’ for the IDF’s slaughter of 15 aid workers and subsequent cover-up. I imagine they think the failure was that the IDF didn’t make sure they took and destroyed any phones which might contain video which contradicts Israel’s fake narrative. Posted by: D J G | Apr 21 2025 12:30 utc | 90 It’s official. Posted by: pepe | Apr 21 2025 12:35 utc | 91 If not for Qatari money, would Israhell PM still be around? how many ppl did he bribe? Posted by: Minaa | Apr 21 2025 13:20 utc | 92 Regarding slavery – I refer all to my post from a few weeks ago tracking its perpetrators and victims going back millenia. Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 21 2025 13:23 utc | 93 Here is DunGroanin’s post on slavery, hosted in the philosopher’s corner. Posted by: persiflo | Apr 21 2025 13:51 utc | 94 Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 21 2025 6:47 utc | 80 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 21 2025 14:10 utc | 95
Alhamdulillah Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 21 2025 14:24 utc | 96 Just wanted to chime in and say: Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 21 2025 14:24 utc | 97 88 Posted by: Giyane | Apr 21 2025 14:28 utc | 98 Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich: Posted by: Giyane | Apr 21 2025 14:34 utc | 99 Alastair to Judge Nap this a.m.: “60% of Israelis say they expect civil war.” Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 21 2025 16:16 utc | 100 |
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