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April 6, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-073
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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Something is up. I just read that the Taliban requested that America take back control of Bagram air base. That may be a threat to China. That may be a threat to Iran. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 8 2025 6:12 utc | 201 this entire genocide against the Palestinian people is one vast war crime against humanity, and someone in the West is going to have to pay….. to pay for all these dead children, women, civilians and blown up apartment buildings, universities, mosques, hospitals, schools, burning refugee tents etc etc. Words and actions have consequences in the real world….. Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 8 2025 6:33 utc | 202 I am going to give my opinion on the “Is Russia doing enough” debate that Peru has opened up, and others have discussed. Posted by: Woke American | Apr 8 2025 6:40 utc | 203 I don’t know what to say or think, but this looks like pretty “direct” talks to me: Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2025 7:03 utc | 204
15-second video of Gilbert Doctorow Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2025 7:04 utc | 205 RE: “The Taliban won’t confirm or deny, but an American C-17 landed there in the last 2 days and offloaded gear.” Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2025 7:35 utc | 206 RE: “It aligns perfectly with the theory that the Zionists rule America.” Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2025 8:46 utc | 207 Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2025 7:35 utc | 214 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 8 2025 8:46 utc | 208 ferocious Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 8 2025 9:19 utc | 209 I just read that the Taliban requested that America take back control of Bagram air base. Posted by: sal | Apr 8 2025 10:48 utc | 210 Sounds like Trump and Netanyahu are still aiming for the approach that all Palestinians will leave Gaza (one way or the other, dead or alive). They spoke to the press after their meeting yesterday at the White House. Posted by: teri | Apr 8 2025 11:40 utc | 211 Pledge is a spray on, shiny , microscopically thin layer of furniture polish. Posted by: Giyane | Apr 8 2025 12:56 utc | 212
Pics, or it didn’t happen. The Taliban taking a page from the recent international playscript may be a fair assumption, but a single C-17 going in seems less than that. Those are huge birds. What are they up to? Supplying their ATC team which came in on horseback with toilet paper isn’t it. Bringing in a typically American-sized diplomat might be it. Posted by: persiflo | Apr 8 2025 13:15 utc | 213 RE: “There’s going to be a lot more information warfare going on in the next few weeks. Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2025 15:36 utc | 214 Nevertheless, US Trump quite confident no one will aid Iran. Posted by: malenkov | Apr 8 2025 16:16 utc | 215 McGill U to Cut Ties with Student Union After Pro-Palestinian Protests on Campus Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 8 2025 16:18 utc | 216 “Moscow is not obligated to provide” Posted by: Mary | Apr 8 2025 16:30 utc | 217 “What has Russia lost to the West in negotiations during the last 3 years? Posted by: David G Horsman | Apr 8 2025 16:33 utc | 218 I don’t know what to say or think, but this looks like pretty “direct” talks to me: Posted by: Mary | Apr 8 2025 16:38 utc | 219 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2025 1:10 utc | 163 Posted by: Mary | Apr 8 2025 16:40 utc | 220 @ David G Horsman | Apr 8 2025 16:33 utc | 228 Posted by: malenkov | Apr 8 2025 16:41 utc | 221 The Trump-Netanyahu meet-up yesterday was supposed to be followed by a full press conference. That conference was abruptly cancelled in favour of a more informal and controlled event for a relative handful of select reporters. Therefore nothing was really clarified or detailed, despite the purported topics potentially being of monumental impact – i.e. attack on Iran and physical displacement of the Palestinians. Posted by: jayc | Apr 8 2025 16:44 utc | 222 “Territory and credibility.” Posted by: Mary | Apr 8 2025 16:50 utc | 223 Sealing the Deal – Russia Ratifies Key Strategic Treaty With Iran (& vid) Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 8 2025 17:08 utc | 224 “I think you missed the “during the last 3 years” part. Intentionally?” Posted by: David G Horsman | Apr 8 2025 17:14 utc | 225 Posted by: Mary | Apr 8 2025 16:50 utc | 233 Posted by: David G Horsman | Apr 8 2025 17:22 utc | 226 They have lost the lives of many of their citizens. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 8 2025 17:31 utc | 227 @Peru Posted by: Woke American | Apr 8 2025 17:34 utc | 228 MIDDLE EAST CONFLICT Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2025 19:36 utc | 229 Note occupation bases denied upcoming holiday leave. Posted by: Ornot | Apr 8 2025 19:38 utc | 230 RE: Posted by: Mary | Apr 8 2025 16:38 utc | 229 Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2025 19:46 utc | 231 “The Pentagon is considering pulling up to 10,000 American troops from Eastern Europe—a potential rollback of the 2022 surge that followed Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine. The internal deliberations, first reported by NBC News, have sparked alarm among NATO allies, who fear the drawdown could weaken deterrence, embolden Vladimir Putin, and disrupt the fragile military balance along NATO’s eastern flank. With U.S. forces deeply integrated into regional defense structures in Poland, Romania, and the Baltics, the move could reshape NATO’s posture at a time of escalating global tensions and shifting American priorities.” Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 8 2025 19:52 utc | 232 Re: The question is whether Iran will need outside assistance. Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2025 19:53 utc | 233 Re: Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 8 2025 19:52 utc | 242 Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2025 20:09 utc | 234 @Arch Posted by: Ornot | Apr 8 2025 20:33 utc | 235 Posted by: David G Horsman | Apr 8 2025 17:22 utc | 236 Posted by: Mary | Apr 8 2025 21:03 utc | 236 Trump’s War Plans For Iran Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 8 2025 21:05 utc | 237 Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2025 19:46 utc | 241 Posted by: Mary | Apr 8 2025 21:07 utc | 238 Prof Jeffrey Sachs Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 8 2025 21:15 utc | 239
Link includes photos from the last time Yemen targeted Saudi oil. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2025 21:55 utc | 240 RE: “Hopefully neither gets killed by someone seeking a trigger.” Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2025 22:03 utc | 241 Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 8 2025 21:05 utc | 247 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2025 22:04 utc | 242
Surely, some of this is to goad Iran into starting aggression, justifying another major American intervention in the region. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2025 22:42 utc | 243
At the same time as they are trying to get conventional Yemeni forces to engage the Houthis, America is bombing the capital.
Those are Iran-supported Shia forces, IIRC. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2025 23:03 utc | 244 UK aircraft carrier “Prince of Wales” : Posted by: Ornot | Apr 8 2025 23:03 utc | 245 The genocider’s flight is currently mid Atlantic, the track will reappear once closer the the european continent (see link earlier in thread). The return flight path appears to be through France and Italy again. Posted by: Ornot | Apr 8 2025 23:16 utc | 246 Now about to enter french airspace again: Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2025 0:08 utc | 247 “By Deception we shall do War.” Posted by: Spectator | Apr 9 2025 0:37 utc | 248 RE: “In addition, high-level meetings will be held these days with the chiefs of staff and leaders of Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, Jordan, and Israel to discuss **a possible operation against Yemen and Iran** with the support of all Arab countries.” Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 9 2025 0:39 utc | 249 Notes… Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2025 0:56 utc | 250 Quotes copied but without links, might as well post these, possibly a double post, own research before requote: Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2025 1:06 utc | 251 The Yanks are hammering Yemen right now.
NYT archived link Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2025 1:08 utc | 252 All countries and tribes liberally use deception in all wars, not just Israel. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 9 2025 1:56 utc | 253 see the 1:03 video at the third link Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 9 2025 3:15 utc | 254
1 minute 50 second video Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2025 3:32 utc | 255 see the 46-second video at the first link Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 9 2025 4:03 utc | 256 Rabbi gives a detailed history of Zionist Israel going back to the 19th century. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2025 4:34 utc | 257 The Cradle has a new Pepe Escobar posting up Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 9 2025 4:39 utc | 259 The Entire World Will Tremble… Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 9 2025 5:09 utc | 260 All Israel-Promoting Institutions Are Fair Targets For Protest Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 9 2025 5:16 utc | 261 Does anyone really take Pepe seriously anymore? I mean, he is a great writer. But I am sure it has occurred to more people than just me that he is a cheerleader. A good man filled with way too much Hopium. Posted by: Spectator | Apr 9 2025 5:17 utc | 262 Yes, people do take Pepe very seriously. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2025 5:26 utc | 263 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2025 5:26 utc | 274 Posted by: Spectator | Apr 9 2025 6:11 utc | 264 A good man filled with way too much Hopium. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 9 2025 6:25 utc | 265 see the 37-second video at the third link Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 9 2025 7:05 utc | 267 The Houthis (Ansar Allah) announced that they had shot down another MQ-9 Reaper Southfront reporting: combat drone on April 9, following another wave of deadly United States strikes on Yemen. Posted by: Vortex | Apr 9 2025 9:09 utc | 268 a good mini-analysis here Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 9 2025 9:13 utc | 269 Massacre in Shujaiya… Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2025 11:32 utc | 270 Is this one worthy of a b Posted by: Otto Penn | Apr 9 2025 12:30 utc | 271 240 Ornot, “What Russia’s problem is, I do not know.” Laith Marouf Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 9 2025 12:50 utc | 273 Fractured Ummah: How leadership crisis, disunity undermined the Palestinian cause: Posted by: JB | Apr 9 2025 13:16 utc | 274
https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1909806619732344864 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2025 14:02 utc | 275 was reading something in MSM and came across this section Posted by: Newbie | Apr 9 2025 14:08 utc | 276 Posted by: Spectator | Apr 9 2025 6:11 utc | 275 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2025 14:10 utc | 277 Recommended, long but worth it: Posted by: JB | Apr 9 2025 14:11 utc | 278 Posted by: Newbie | Apr 9 2025 14:08 utc | 287 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2025 14:21 utc | 279 @283 Lavieja Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2025 14:48 utc | 280 Lack of reaction by Russia to the genocide is something different though. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2025 15:04 utc | 281 Craig Murray’s hell is the putrefaction of Western philosophy, ever resolving to Gaza…
https://scheerpost.com/2025/04/09/craig-murray-this-hell/ Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 9 2025 15:17 utc | 282 That Zionist B*stard Trump – still claiming that Hamas murdered the 15 Palestinian medics – even though the Zio-Monster, have now admitted that they murdered them and buried them and the ambulances in shallow graves. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 9 2025 15:19 utc | 283 Another Zionist B*stard exposed as a LIAR. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 9 2025 15:22 utc | 284 META employs a plethora of ex-IDF Zio-Monsters. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 9 2025 15:25 utc | 285 Its the Zio-Monsters and their backers and supporters that are sub-human – that’s how they should be looked upon. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 9 2025 15:31 utc | 286 @292 LoveDonbass Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2025 16:08 utc | 287 Another Zionist B*stard exposed as a LIAR. Posted by: Otto Penn | Apr 9 2025 16:36 utc | 288 what a fine speech by the French MP Aymeric Caron, in defense of Palestine and against the genocide; see the 1:51 video at the third link – translated/subtitles in english too Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 9 2025 18:45 utc | 289 @299 Otto Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2025 18:55 utc | 290 Ayman Hanideq Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2025 19:10 utc | 291 @ Ornot | Apr 9 2025 18:55 utc | 301 Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2025 19:46 utc | 292 @300 michael Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2025 19:49 utc | 293 @303 malenkov Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2025 20:14 utc | 294 Ray McGovern & John Helmer Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 9 2025 20:43 utc | 295 “Oligarchs” …. you are saying Russia is politically corrupt. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2025 21:07 utc | 296 Jonathan AC Brown Posted by: Menz | Apr 9 2025 21:18 utc | 297 Hamas Launches Unprecedented Legal Case in Britain, Demanding UK Remove its Terror Designation. Posted by: Menz | Apr 9 2025 21:21 utc | 298 @ Ornot | Apr 9 2025 20:14 utc | 305 Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2025 21:22 utc | 299 Visualizing Palestine Posted by: Menz | Apr 9 2025 21:22 utc | 300 |
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