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April 6, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-073

News & views related to the war in Palestine …

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Something is up. I just read that the Taliban requested that America take back control of Bagram air base. That may be a threat to China. That may be a threat to Iran.
The Taliban won’t confirm or deny, but an American C-17 landed there in the last 2 days and offloaded gear.
What gear and for what? Who knows …
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2025 5:51 utc | 208
The Army of Dajjal?
The black flags of Khorasan?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 8 2025 6:12 utc | 201

this entire genocide against the Palestinian people is one vast war crime against humanity, and someone in the West is going to have to pay….. to pay for all these dead children, women, civilians and blown up apartment buildings, universities, mosques, hospitals, schools, burning refugee tents etc etc. Words and actions have consequences in the real world…..
see the photo at the first link
https://x.com/gazanotice/status/1908991105284087840
Gaza Notifications @gazanotice
🚨The Israeli army has killed 490 children in Gaza in just 20 days.
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/17134
Middle East Spectator – MES
— 🇮🇱/🇵🇸 NEW: More journalists have been killed by Israel in Gaza than in any modern conflict in history
In fact, more journalists have died in the Gaza War than in the U.S. Civil War, World War 1 and World War 2, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Yugoslav Wars, and the War in Afghanistan – all combined.
https://interbellumnews.com/conflicts/palestine/israel-bombs-journalists-more-reporters-killed-in-gaza-than-any-modern-war
https://x.com/aaronjmate/status/1908965152969367828
Aaron Maté @aaronjmate
We are funding and arming an Israeli army that deliberately and routinely slaughters mass numbers of children:
https://x.com/gazanotice/status/1908911360370483710
Gaza Notifications @gazanotice
🚨Breaking: Casualties, mostly children, were taken to the hospital after being targeted while playing by Israeli artillery shelling in Al-Tuffah neighborhood, east of Gaza City.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 8 2025 6:33 utc | 202

I am going to give my opinion on the “Is Russia doing enough” debate that Peru has opened up, and others have discussed.
The war was brought to their borders by a combined Trump / Biden collaboration when first term Trump effectively and successfully armed and trained a reasonably large West Ukrainian army – West Ukraine and East Ukraine were at war with each other at the time. Biden sent that large West Ukrainian army to East Ukraine, Putin viewed it as a threat, and the SMO was started. If the situations were reversed, I would expect the US to go with a full out 100% shock and awe campaign. 20 years ago we did that in Iraq despite the lack of an Iraqian army anywhere NEAR US territory.
Since then, US / NATO / Ukraine has sent troops into Russian territory, sent drones into its territory, attacked its Black Sea navy, sent missiles into its territory, and threatens nuking Russian territory. Russia has also had to restructure its economy due to sanctions over the past decades. US / NATO / Ukraine occasionally commits terrorist activity against Russia and Russians.
Blaming Russia for not doing “enough” seems like a very unfair charge to make. Unless you are trying to say something like “It’s the fault of RUSSIA for the genocide in Palestine. After all, Russia refused to defend them from US / Israel, so the whole thing is the fault of RUSSIA”. The US has the ability to kill lots of people wherever we want, and whenever we want. No one has the power to stop that.
If it weren’t for Russian patience and Russia taking a lot more crap than they deserve, most of us would have already perished in a series of nuclear exchanges between NATO and Russia. Furthermore, at this point it looks like Russia and China (and its allies) are in the process of defeating US / NATO and OUR allies. It will still be horrible for the nations that get destroyed in the meantime. Not even Russia can prevent that.

Posted by: Woke American | Apr 8 2025 6:40 utc | 203

I don’t know what to say or think, but this looks like pretty “direct” talks to me:
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/04/08/745768/Iran-United-States-talks-Oman-Muscat-Araghchi-Witkoff
Iran’s Araghchi, Trump’s envoy Witkoff to hold ‘indirect’ talks in Oman on Saturday: Report
Tuesday, 08 April 2025 6:19 AM [ Last Update: Tuesday, 08 April 2025 6:55 AM ]
“Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi and the United States regional envoy Steve Witkoff are reportedly to hold “indirect talks” in the Omani capital Muscat on Saturday.”

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2025 7:03 utc | 204

“You Touch Iran, You Lose Taiwan”: China’s Siege Drills Send a Stark Message to Washington
The Chinese Foreign Minister’s visit to Moscow wasn’t just about prepping for May 9th’s 80th Victory Day bash. No, the real talk—straight with Putin—was about stopping an American strike on Iran or hitting back hard if it happens. Those Chinese military drills? Assaulting and besieging Taiwan? Forget the official line about Taiwan’s PM riling up Beijing. That was a calculated warning shot to Washington: mess with Iran, and Taiwan’s gone tomorrow. Russia’s got moves too, but China’s stealing the show with this one.

15-second video of Gilbert Doctorow
https://x.com/apocalypseos/status/1909164775524708621

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2025 7:04 utc | 205

RE: “The Taliban won’t confirm or deny, but an American C-17 landed there in the last 2 days and offloaded gear.”
What gear and for what? Who knows …
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2025 5:51 utc | 208
Not sure what report is “truth”, but for your review:
https://efe.com/en/latest-news/2025-04-07/taliban-military-base/
“Taliban say they have absolute control of former US military base in Afghanistan”
Highlights of article:
“Kabul, Apr 7 (EFE).- The de facto Taliban government said Monday that it retained absolute control of Bagram Air Base, the former headquarters of US forces in Afghanistan, located north of Kabul, after local media reported a US aircraft landing there.”
“ Mujahid’s statements came in response to Afghan media reports that a US C-17 military aircraft had landed at the air base on Monday, a story Mujahid called “baseless propaganda.”
“Taliban’s chief spokesperson, Zabihullah Mujahid, told Afghanistan National Radio that the “rumors” were not true and stressed that Afghanistan was an independent country, with independent security forces.”
“As he did on Monday, the spokesperson reiterated that there was no need for foreign military presence on Afghan territory and accused those spreading such information of seeking to create instability. EFE”
In addition, Russia has been making advances towards Taliban:
https://tass.com/world/1937163

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2025 7:35 utc | 206

RE: “It aligns perfectly with the theory that the Zionists rule America.”
Nothing weird about that.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 8 2025 4:12 utc | 194
After Hungary recently, I would expand the rule to Global ZioNazism control and not single America out.
A couple of decades ago, when I was making my way around the Protestant Church circuit, a seed in my mind was planted. There was a Brother that expressed his belief that the “antichrist” would he of Jewish origin, spread via Zionism and reach global power and rule the world and that Russia/Turkey would play an important part in that rise.
Of course he was Evangelical Christian American, so never acknowledged Americas role. Nevertheless, fast forward to today, because of that seed (rational or not), I view Russia with suspicion, I’m not certain that Russia isn’t the poser “opposition” figure (via SMO), whose appointment isn’t to rein in the “outliers”, that are not under Zionazi financial control system, who have not bent the knee. North Korea, Iran, Venezuela and many smaller countries, as well as the neutral nations.
Most of the neutral nations fell in line the second US/EU cracked the whip, Finland, Sweden, Switzerland, Moldova ect.
So far there is nothing in BRICS that demonstrates that it isn’t a collection of “outlier” nation states being brought into an “alternative” payment system, controlled by the ZioNazis/ZioBankers. I say this because Putin has not demonstrated anything (aside from badmouthing “western” everything) and the 44D “SMO” operation that indicates a resistance to the global Zio order, obsessively abiding by AngloZio “international laws” as excuses to not “respond”
against “Western” plots.
I’m not speaking of Russia as a whole, just that Russians may be getting duped by Putins “opposition” as everyone else.
For me, there is just not enough evidence to weigh in on the sincerity of a Zio free global order via BRICS. I’m willing to pluck that seed out regarding Russia/Turkey when enough evidence dispels the deceptive lying prophecies.
“As for China, they run circles around the Russians and Americans. They’re not dumb enough to fall for Chabad scams.”
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 8 2025 3:59 utc | 189
As for this post, I am in agreement with the entire post, particularly regarding China.
For in the end, it may well be the Asian nations that saves the world and breaks all the spells.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2025 8:46 utc | 207

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2025 7:35 utc | 214
There’s going to be a lot more information warfare going on in the next few weeks.
Take nothing you hear at face value.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 8 2025 8:46 utc | 208

ferocious
https://x.com/Rahmazeinegypt/status/1908895485114413512
Rahma @Rahmazeinegypt
Palestine has single handedly unmasked the world
https://caitlinjohnstone.com.au/2025/04/07/hamas-succeeded-in-exposing-the-true-face-of-the-empire/
Hamas Succeeded In Exposing The True Face Of The Empire
What has been seen cannot be unseen.
One thing October 7 did accomplish was getting Israel and its allies to show the world their true face. Getting them to stand before all of humanity to say, “If you resist us, we’ll kill your babies. We’ll deliberately shoot your kids in the head. We’ll massacre medical workers. We’ll systematically destroy all your hospitals. We’ll rape you and torture you as a matter of policy. We’ll lay siege to the entire civilian population.
We’ll make your entire land uninhabitable and then we’ll kick you all out and take it for ourselves. We’ll assassinate all your journalists and block foreign journalists from entry so that nobody can see what we’re doing to you. We’ll lie about all of these things the entire time, and you’ll know we’re lying, and we’ll know you know we’re lying, and you’ll know we know you know we’re lying. And we’ll get away with it anyway, because we hold all the cards.”….
…..It’s all fully visible now. It’s all right there on the surface. We can try to continue pretending we live in a free society that believes in truth and justice and regards all people as equal, but we’ll all know it’s a lie. What we are, first and foremost, is a civilization that will actively support history’s first live-streamed genocide. That’s the single most relevant fact about the western world at this point in history. It’s staring us right in the face every day…….

Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 8 2025 9:19 utc | 209

I just read that the Taliban requested that America take back control of Bagram air base.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2025 5:51 utc | 208
What are you smoking?

Posted by: sal | Apr 8 2025 10:48 utc | 210

Sounds like Trump and Netanyahu are still aiming for the approach that all Palestinians will leave Gaza (one way or the other, dead or alive). They spoke to the press after their meeting yesterday at the White House.
One sentence of Trump’s struck me as remarkable in that it indicates he knows absolutely nothing about the history of Israel and Palestine. Or, perhaps, he hopes that he can simply alter the history by making a complete falsehood the “truth”. He said he did not understand why “Israel had given [the Gaza Strip] land to the Palestinians”.
For his part, Netanyahu said that Gaza was besieged place, but that Israel was not the one besiesing it.
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Trump: We will begin direct talks with Iran on Saturday. If there is no agreement, we will have to do what is necessary.
Maybe there will be an agreement with Iran, and that would be great.
Trump: We provide Israel with $4 billion a year and will continue to provide support.
Other countries are willing to accept Palestinians from the Gaza Strip to spare them the killing and misery they are experiencing.
We are talking about a completely new trade agreement with Israel.
Customs duties on Israel may not be reduced.
Controlling and owning the Gaza Strip would be a good thing.
I don’t understand why Israel previously abandoned the Gaza Strip.
Trump: If the Palestinians are transferred to other countries, there will be a free zone in the Gaza Strip.
The Gaza Strip is like a death trap, a very dangerous place, and it will take years to rebuild.
I don’t like what’s happening in the Gaza Strip now.
I don’t know why Israel gave them this land. They did it because they promised peace. Gaza is the most dangerous place in the world.
We will call Gaza a free zone after the population is transferred from it.
Netanyahu: We want everyone out. We are working on another deal and hope it will happen.
We are committed to destroying Hamas.
Rebuilding Gaza could take years.
Gaza is a closed, besieged place, and we are not the ones besieging it.
All we seek is to enable the residents of Gaza to have the option of leaving for other countries.
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/Sohaibpress?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
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And this I simply do not believe:
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Washington pledges to Cairo to allow aid into Gaza
April 8, 2025
The Lebanese newspaper Al-Akhbar reported this morning, Tuesday, April 8, 2025, that US President Donald Trump pledged to Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi to allow aid into the Gaza Strip .
https://t-me.translate.goog/s/gazanewsnow2021?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en
—————-

Posted by: teri | Apr 8 2025 11:40 utc | 211

Pledge is a spray on, shiny , microscopically thin layer of furniture polish.

Posted by: Giyane | Apr 8 2025 12:56 utc | 212

. I just read that the Taliban requested that America take back control of Bagram air base. That may be a threat to China. That may be a threat to Iran.
The Taliban won’t confirm or deny […]

Pics, or it didn’t happen. The Taliban taking a page from the recent international playscript may be a fair assumption, but a single C-17 going in seems less than that. Those are huge birds. What are they up to? Supplying their ATC team which came in on horseback with toilet paper isn’t it. Bringing in a typically American-sized diplomat might be it.
My guess is they set up a field camp for 50 trained linguists writing postcards with Afghani stamps on them to some choice IRGC leaders with reports on the local weather conditions in Bagram and praising Allah, in the hope to lure them on a trip abroad and entrap them in a mobile Jack-in-the-Box restaurant they also brought along.
Meanwhile China hinting at the Taiwan situation is a classic simple chess move, straightforward and very effective.
The Baluchistan takfiris, if they exist, are probably supplied from Bagram with toilet paper, while the IRGC taunts them with postcards about the dubious American habits. It at least keeps them a bit busy during this time of tensions, so +1 for the MAGA strategists.

Posted by: persiflo | Apr 8 2025 13:15 utc | 213

RE: “There’s going to be a lot more information warfare going on in the next few weeks.
Take nothing you hear at face value.”
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 8 2025 8:46 utc | 216
Such as this latest:
https://www.newsweek.com/russia-iran-attack-trump-nuclear-2056849
“Russia Says It Won’t Have to Defend Iran in Win for Trump”
Published Apr 08, 2025 at 10:34 AM EDT
Highlights:
1) “ While Putin and his Iranian counterpart Masoud Pezeshkian signed the Iranian–Russian Treaty on Comprehensive Strategic Partnership in January, it had no clause for mutual defense if one party is attacked. Rudenko’s comments show the limits of that partnership, in the light of Trump’s threats.”
2) “ Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Andrey Rudenko, per Russian state media: “Moscow is not obligated to provide military assistance to Tehran under the strategic partnership agreement.”
3) “ Hamidreza Azizi, from the German think tank SWP Berlin: “Despite the close relationship Iran has had with Moscow over the past few years… the limitations of their bilateral relationship — especially when it comes to Russia’s direct military support — have always been evident.
4) “ Russia also places significant value on its relationships with Israel and Iran’s Arab neighbors in the Persian Gulf, he added. What Tehran wants from Moscow is political support, particularly in the UN Security Council, which is why they’ve initiated a new trilateral track on the nuclear issue, together with China.”
Btw, the “Iranian expert” commenting here:
“Hamidreza Azizi, from the German think tank SWP Berlin”
“Blog series – Iran in Transition: The Islamic republic is no more while it lives on”
By Hamidreza Azizi , Erwin van Veen
A fifth columnist usurper who works out of Tehran University.
Nevertheless, US Trump quite confident no one will aid Iran.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2025 15:36 utc | 214

Nevertheless, US Trump quite confident no one will aid Iran.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2025 15:36 utc | 224
______
The question isn’t whether any country will come to Iran’s defense.
The question is whether Iran will need outside assistance.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 8 2025 16:16 utc | 215

McGill U to Cut Ties with Student Union After Pro-Palestinian Protests on Campus
https://www.ctvnews.ca/montreal/article/mcgill-to-cut-ties-with-student-union-after-pro-palestinian-protests-on-campus/
“…If the contract between the university and union is dissolved, the union’s access to university spaces may be revoked – including offices for clubs and services, student papers, the legal information clinics, a cafe and bar, and organizations will have to drop the McGill name.
McGill has tried to crack down on pro-Palestine protest activity on campus for over a year, which has led to accusations that the university suppresses free speech.
The students’ main demands are that McGill University cut ties with people, corporations and institutions that are ‘complicit in genocide, settler-colonialism, apartheid or ethnic cleansing against Palestinians.’
SPHR called the McGill administration’s latest move ‘ a collective punishment’ and ‘attempts to distract from the fact they are the ones investing in war…”
McGill U Divest From Genocide Now!
https://x.com/EnglerYves/status/1907985560070926367
“Hundreds rallied and marched across McGill today as part of an unprecedented student strike for divestment from genocide. There was massive police presence with a riot squad entering buildings..”
Pierre Boivin, Chancellor, McGill University
pierre.boivin@mcgill.ca
Free Speech! Free Palestine! Stop supporting Genocide!

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 8 2025 16:18 utc | 216

“Moscow is not obligated to provide”
“Not obligated” does not mean “not willing.”

Posted by: Mary | Apr 8 2025 16:30 utc | 217

“What has Russia lost to the West in negotiations during the last 3 years?
Nothing.”
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2025 2:17 utc | 173
“Territory and credibility.”
Posted by: Peru | Apr 8 2025 2:37 utc | 177
They also allowed NATO & 404 to rearm and prepare for a drawn out conflict. They have lost the lives of many of their citizens.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Apr 8 2025 16:33 utc | 218

I don’t know what to say or think, but this looks like pretty “direct” talks to me:
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/04/08/745768/Iran-United-States-talks-Oman-Muscat-Araghchi-Witkoff
Iran’s Araghchi, Trump’s envoy Witkoff to hold ‘indirect’ talks in Oman on Saturday: Report
Tuesday, 08 April 2025 6:19 AM [ Last Update: Tuesday, 08 April 2025 6:55 AM ]
“Iran’s Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi and the United States regional envoy Steve Witkoff are reportedly to hold “indirect talks” in the Omani capital Muscat on Saturday.”
Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2025 7:03 utc | 212
Reread the quotes.
Iran responded to Trump’s demand for “direct talks” with “no.”
But offered to continue “indirect talks” & “back channels.
Trump’s claim of direct talks is him trying to “create reality.”
It’s not going to work. The people meeting on the 12th will be low level.
If talks ever escalate to direct, I anticipate any verbal agreement with be “with nuances.”

Posted by: Mary | Apr 8 2025 16:38 utc | 219

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2025 1:10 utc | 163
100%
“By Deception we shall do War.”
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 8 2025 4:37 utc | 201
Agree, 100%

Posted by: Mary | Apr 8 2025 16:40 utc | 220

@ David G Horsman | Apr 8 2025 16:33 utc | 228
I think you missed the “during the last 3 years” part. Intentionally?

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 8 2025 16:41 utc | 221

The Trump-Netanyahu meet-up yesterday was supposed to be followed by a full press conference. That conference was abruptly cancelled in favour of a more informal and controlled event for a relative handful of select reporters. Therefore nothing was really clarified or detailed, despite the purported topics potentially being of monumental impact – i.e. attack on Iran and physical displacement of the Palestinians.
Neither event may actually be imminent. No country has yet signalled willingness to accept displaced Palestinians. Also the air campaign against Yemen has been acknowledged as ineffective, and so a Plan B is being hurried into place which may be ineffective as well. This Plan B is reliant on more direct and purposeful contributions from regional allies who have not officially signed on, and will likely not sign on due to domestic opposition. This leaves the only current operational projects being the starvation blockade and bombing of defenceless civilians in Gaza, vigilante settler violence in West Bank, and continuing hectoring of Lebanon’s client government.

Posted by: jayc | Apr 8 2025 16:44 utc | 222

“Territory and credibility.”
Posted by: Peru | Apr 8 2025 2:37 utc | 177
They also allowed NATO & 404 to rearm and prepare for a drawn out conflict. They have lost the lives of many of their citizens.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Apr 8 2025 16:33 utc | 228
Russia has regained its lost territory. In 3 years it has built up its military with well trained, battle-hardened soldiers, tripled or so its arms manufacturing, grown & strengthened ties with new partners & measurably improved its citizens lives. It is now well positioned to burn right through to 404s borders.
Nato & 404 have burned through 3 armies, emptied weapons shelves, lost territory incrementally but daily, destroyed their own economies, severely damaged their arms & other manufacturing capabilities, ruined their citizens lives & turned the entire row against them.

Posted by: Mary | Apr 8 2025 16:50 utc | 223

Sealing the Deal – Russia Ratifies Key Strategic Treaty With Iran (& vid)
https://www.rt.com/shows/news/615358-rtnews-april-08-18msk/
“…Russia ratifies a key strategic treaty with Iran. It comes as tensions between Warshington and Tehran spike over Iran’s nuclear program.
Diplomacy by dropping bombs – as Iran confirms [indirect] talks with the US are slated for later this week over its nuclear program…”
‘When a country like America puts us under all-out pressure and threatens us every day, how can we negotiate with it? We believe in negotiations without humiliation.
The fact that Iran does not intend to use its nuclear capabilities for non-peaceful purposes, is not just my words but a religious fatwa of the Supreme Leader.’
– Masoud Pezeshkian, President of Iran

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 8 2025 17:08 utc | 224

“I think you missed the “during the last 3 years” part. Intentionally?”
Posted by: malenkov | Apr 8 2025 16:41 utc | 231
No. Unintentionally. Regardless, I would engage in dialogue at any time. I wouldn’t risk senior officials. It is another source of information. It’s politically or diplomatically wise.
Any resulting agreements would be worthless. You’d be better off speaking with Rand Corporation.
Like Iran, Russia merely speaking with the US is a good move. Just don’t agree to anything. Don’t delay.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Apr 8 2025 17:14 utc | 225

Posted by: Mary | Apr 8 2025 16:50 utc | 233
I have to disagree. 3 armies?. Counting Kursk Ukraine has lost 4 armies now haven’t they? That one million man army 404 boasted about is dead.
I really don’t find myself disagreeing with the responses to my comment. Thanks for all contributions Mary.

Posted by: David G Horsman | Apr 8 2025 17:22 utc | 226

They have lost the lives of many of their citizens.
Posted by: David G Horsman | Apr 8 2025 16:33 utc | 228
There was no avoiding this.
When a demonic force like the West decides to destroy a civilisation the only choice available is how to bleed.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 8 2025 17:31 utc | 227

@Peru
Thank you for your thoughtful and interesting post (218 is its current number). Our positions are a lot closer than I originally thought. The only real “clarification” that I would like to add is as follows (Note, not an original idea. Something I read probably here at MOA a year or two ago).
For 8 years, West Ukraine was armed by US/NATO, and used these weapons in military actions against East Ukraine. Russia suffered this because, at the time, they calculated that they would not be able to economically maintain both a major military action against US/NATO/Ukraine, AND a decent economy at the same time. So for 8 years, while Ukraine built up militarily, Russia tended to the business of making itself economically independent of the west. Russia expected the sanctions, and prepared accordingly. In 2022, the intensity of Western Ukraine aggression, combined with a strong enough economy, was sufficient for Russia to intervene military with its SMO.
The slow prodding advances that Russia makes, and their infinite patience, seems to be based on the ideas that the US is destroying itself internally day by day, that China is growing fairly quickly day by day, and that Russian/Chinese international influence and reputation are improving daily. Even the US MSM is now referencing the official Russian narrative on why they started the SMO – obviously they “refute” the Russian narrative, but now they are acknowledging it. Meanwhile, Indonesia and Thailand joined BRICS rather than a US led alliance. Saudi Arabia and India do a lot of trade not in dollars. Putin is considered more trustworthy and honest than Trump. African nations are replacing US/French economic contacts with Russian/Chinese economic contacts. Finally, by having the battles occur closer to Russia (or IN Russia), Russia has shorter supply lines, Ukraine has longer supply lines, and the populations of the battle areas are pro-Russian rather than pro-Ukrainian, helping with intelligence if nothing else.
This is consistent with the idea that, for 8 years, China and Russia were alertly and patiently being VERY busy and active at preparing for the war situation. Currently, Russia is fighting off the west militarily, while China is taken care of economic concerns. If the US moves on to Taiwan, then China will be ready militarily. China will be on the front lines, Russia will provide assistance as needed, and North Korea will be there as a reserve force.
Putin’s goal (since before 2014)? – Have the US self destruct, without a nuclear exchange, and with a minimum number of nations destroyed.

Posted by: Woke American | Apr 8 2025 17:34 utc | 228

MIDDLE EAST CONFLICT
7 APR, 13:49
Washington would like to see conflict in Gaza over — Trump
“I like to see the war stop, and ***I think the war will stop at some point,” US President said***
You think?
This is the genius somebody out there that fell for the “vote” thing voted for.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2025 19:36 utc | 229

Note occupation bases denied upcoming holiday leave.
The genocider’s return flight I think
https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/XA001
VVP/Russia strategy … his own words iirc “I trust no one”.
i.e. will not commit more than is manageable, or more than makes sense, given an ever changing mosaic of loyalties and action.
Whether Russia’s approach is adequate or correct is not possible to judge. However lack of diplomatic isolation of “Israel” is simply wrong. Maintaining hypothetical leverage or intelligence by supporting/accepting a genocidal entity cannot be justified, as the whole concept of diplomacy is to allow civilian activity to flourish, so benefitting all sides to whatever degree. Purposefully killing civilians, women, and children is an opposite. What Russia’s problem is, I do not know.

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 8 2025 19:38 utc | 230

RE: Posted by: Mary | Apr 8 2025 16:38 utc | 229
Thx Mary, I read the post, but seriously, this is about as high level and direct as if both Pres. were sitting in a room.
Lavrov met with Witkoff, so don’t make it like the US didn’t get exactly what they wanted when it came to the “talks” because they did.
It matters not, so Iran capitulated and let them have a crumb and made the “global community” happy. It’s either the last meeting or arrangements will be made to sign crap.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2025 19:46 utc | 231

“The Pentagon is considering pulling up to 10,000 American troops from Eastern Europe—a potential rollback of the 2022 surge that followed Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine. The internal deliberations, first reported by NBC News, have sparked alarm among NATO allies, who fear the drawdown could weaken deterrence, embolden Vladimir Putin, and disrupt the fragile military balance along NATO’s eastern flank. With U.S. forces deeply integrated into regional defense structures in Poland, Romania, and the Baltics, the move could reshape NATO’s posture at a time of escalating global tensions and shifting American priorities.”
(Sauce: https://youtu.be/O8v-6Z6ase0?si=-2U8NwUkmtXZhmMa)
Getting ready for the next war, I see …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 8 2025 19:52 utc | 232

Re: The question is whether Iran will need outside assistance.
Posted by: malenkov | Apr 8 2025 16:16 utc | 225
Agreed.
Hopefully, in the event of an attack, they won’t squander their resources playing politics or playing nice. Let every missile/drone count.
I know nothing, if they say they’re ready, I’m sure it’s true.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2025 19:53 utc | 233

Re: Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 8 2025 19:52 utc | 242
Interesting, I just saw a report from Tass on this topic:
https://tass.com/world/1940481
“US says its troops to keep helping with Ukraine aid after pulling out of Polish airfield”
“WASHINGTON, April 8. /TASS/. US servicemen will remain committed to providing assistance to Ukraine even after the Pentagon pulls out its forces from the Rzeszow airfield, a key supply hub on the Poland-Ukraine border, a spokesman for the US Army Europe and Africa Command told TASS.
“The mission has not changed,” he said when asked whether the withdrawal meant the US will halt its direct involvement in supplying military aid to Kiev through the hub.
On April 7, the command announced it was transferring military personnel and equipment from Rzeszow to other bases throughout Poland. The US has deployed a temporary contingent at the airfield since 2022.”
I see they cite other bases in Poland, but not certain truth in that. Could be getting out of potentially harms way, but the Russia cited that Poland was upset about the pull out, and if they were staying in Poland at all, why would they be upset?
It’s as you say, the information warfare is at fever pitch.
In Tass they had article aftercarticke about how Russia would be reconnected to Swift soon, and how Russia is going to negotiate with Ukraine directly and on and on.
It’s one big blob of gaslighting the public on overdrive to confuse and manipulate all of us, firing at us with speeds and deceptions unheard of before internet and AI.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2025 20:09 utc | 234

@Arch
Rafah crossing Egypt cont. …
Not sure how to read Egypt as it presents every facet. Earlier reports were Sinai militants moving north, now micron is visiting and we have
“At the Rafah crossing, mercenaries dance in rejection of displacement.
The Islamic nation, and the Egyptian nation in particular, must reexamine itself before the Day of Judgment.
~ Sheikh Muhammad al-Ghazali
I apologize for the trashy scenes.”
https://t.me/GazaNewsNow/400660
Maybe we are just to be thankful that beards were absent…or that E.T. didn’t take part….
https://mashable.com/feature/visiting-the-pyramids
Top photo…
“Buburgerer:
It is heartwarming to see that lady feed the legless, one-armed beggar.
Mcchew:
He spent all week getting up there, it’s the least she could do.”
(Courtesy Reddit)
Going o/t, apologies …just escaping the @244 Trubind 1
“It’s as you say, the information warfare is at fever pitch.”…I think…I think I think…

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 8 2025 20:33 utc | 235

Posted by: David G Horsman | Apr 8 2025 17:22 utc | 236
I thought Russia is currently destroying army #4 (such as it is), so I erred on the conservative side. But I’ll # 4 down & #5 underway.
Thanks!

Posted by: Mary | Apr 8 2025 21:03 utc | 236

Trump’s War Plans For Iran
https://mronline.org/2025/04/07/trumps-war-plans-for-iran/
“Opening the other gates of hell…”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 8 2025 21:05 utc | 237

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2025 19:46 utc | 241
My mistake. I somehow skimmed over & missed the names. Yup … Witkoff & Iran Foreign Minister are as high as it goes.
Surprising (to me, anyway) given recent experience. Hopefully neither gets killed by someone seeking a trigger.

Posted by: Mary | Apr 8 2025 21:07 utc | 238

Prof Jeffrey Sachs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37B0dCG2PDg
“War and tariffs.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 8 2025 21:15 utc | 239

Accelerated Saudi-American military movements are underway to launch an aggression against Yemen in service of Israel.
To Saudi Arabia: do not get involved — your oil will not remain. We will turn the skies over Saudi Arabia into clouds of fire for the whole world to witness.

Link includes photos from the last time Yemen targeted Saudi oil.
https://x.com/Yemenimilitary/status/1909689185939698153

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2025 21:55 utc | 240

RE: “Hopefully neither gets killed by someone seeking a trigger.”
Posted by: Mary | Apr 8 2025 21:07 utc | 248
I wouldn’t say “neither”… but then I’m jaded.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 8 2025 22:03 utc | 241

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 8 2025 21:05 utc | 247
Regarding the demands for inspections of Iranian nuclear facilities, if I was negotiating for Iran I would insist on a contingency that Dimona and any other Israeli sites must also be inspected.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Apr 8 2025 22:04 utc | 242

🇺🇸⚔️🇾🇪🇮🇷 The head of the US Central Command, General Kurilla, is heading to Riyadh to meet with the chief of staff of the Saudi-backed local forces in Yemen to discuss a comprehensive operation against Yemen led by the Houthis.
In addition, high-level meetings will be held these days with the chiefs of staff and leaders of Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, Jordan, and Israel to discuss a possible operation against Yemen and Iran with the support of all Arab countries.

Surely, some of this is to goad Iran into starting aggression, justifying another major American intervention in the region.
The Axis’ patience sometimes drives me bananas, but it is a very clever strategy, IMO.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2025 22:42 utc | 243

🇺🇸⚔️🇾🇪 US warplanes launch 8 airstrikes on the capital Sanaa, Yemen.

At the same time as they are trying to get conventional Yemeni forces to engage the Houthis, America is bombing the capital.
Why do we assume that America is capable of competence and congruence? I cannot remember the last time America behaved in an intelligent and respectable manner abroad.

🇮🇶⚔️🇸🇾 Iraqi Popular Mobilization Forces deployed on Syrian border.

Those are Iran-supported Shia forces, IIRC.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2025 23:03 utc | 244

UK aircraft carrier “Prince of Wales” :
“The aircraft carrier will sail from Portsmouth Naval Base on April 22 as head of a carrier strike group made up of warships and supply ships before heading firstly to the Mediterranean for security exercises and then on to the Indo-Pacific region.” DailyEcho
“So at least 5 escorts, a Type 23, Type 45 plus a Norwegian, Canadian and Spanish ship and possibly an Arleigh Burke. Its quite a formidable group, though it is disappointing that we can’t generate more escorts ourselves.
Hopefully it’ll be a productive deployment. I look forward to the pictures, which in any event will no doubt be awesome. I wonder whether we’ll end up getting roped into whatever Trump is about to start in the middle east though, or at least if we’ll end up taking over Houthi duty for a period whilst the US does something else.” Reddit
Also, carrier Ford deployment details are still not available, but deployment is still said to be early summer. The carrier is currently in US Atlantic waters.

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 8 2025 23:03 utc | 245

The genocider’s flight is currently mid Atlantic, the track will reappear once closer the the european continent (see link earlier in thread). The return flight path appears to be through France and Italy again.
Jurists denounce the outward overflight of France:
“L’Association des Juristes pour le Respect du Droit International (JURDI) a adressé une lettre ouverte au Président français Emmanuel Macron, datée du 7 avril 2025, dans laquelle elle alerte sur une possible « violation grave » des engagements internationaux de la France. Selon elle, un avion officiel transportant le premier ministre israélien Benyamin Netanyahu aurait survolé l’espace aérien français dans la nuit du 6 au 7 avril, avec l’autorisation préalable des autorités françaises, malgré le mandat d’arrêt international émis contre lui par la Cour pénale internationale (CPI).”
https://www.aa.com.tr/fr/monde/survol-de-la-france-par-l-avion-de-netanyahu-les-juristes-d%C3%A9noncent-une-violation-grave-du-droit-international/3531750

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 8 2025 23:16 utc | 246

Now about to enter french airspace again:
https://www.flightaware.com/live/flight/XA001
767-300 no need to refuel at a guess…

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2025 0:08 utc | 247

“By Deception we shall do War.”
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 8 2025 4:37 utc | 201
“Agree, 100%”
Posted by: Mary | Apr 8 2025 16:40 utc | 230
All countries and tribes liberally use deception in all wars, not just Israel. That very public Mossad motto is overused in the alt-media space. The worse thing is deception in diplomacy. Like Trump used when he baited General Qasem Soleimani to a diplomatic negotiation, and then just droned him.

Posted by: Spectator | Apr 9 2025 0:37 utc | 248

RE: “In addition, high-level meetings will be held these days with the chiefs of staff and leaders of Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, Jordan, and Israel to discuss **a possible operation against Yemen and Iran** with the support of all Arab countries.”
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 8 2025 22:42 utc | 253
Even these puppet controlled governances, and the myriad of differences and self interest that drove these nations against one another in the past, I do think it is a hard sell.
Even though the Iran/Iraq war was largely a proxy for US interest, the Heads of state could hide behind “sectarian and religious clashes” maybe even territorial disputes, but this “Arab war” is so blatantly to “defend USReal” and to actually fight side-by-side with Israel against Yemen & Iran.
If the Gaza genocide, AlAqsa Mosque, and recent invasion and occupation of Turkey into the ME hadn’t occurred, maybe they could get a consensus from their citizens to go to war in some pretext again with Yemen and Iran. But to lay down their own lives openly for Israelis?
I don’t know, seems like a hard sell, and really bad timing and circumstances for Arab puppet regimes to pull off.

Posted by: Trubind1 | Apr 9 2025 0:39 utc | 249

Notes…
Bombing and shelling continue at a similar level through each day in Gaza, I just say this because lack of reporting, attention to other topics, might make it seem otherwise.
Strikes on Yemen occur each day.
There is too much occuring for me to keep up with, mostly because so many events are claiming attention at once and so it is hard go know which to focus on.
Some more on protests, these are just examples before me at the moment:
“Protesters destroy a Kentucky Fried Chicken restaurant in the center of the Bangladeshi capital over its support for the war of extermination in Gaza.”
https://t.me/pal74press/101754
“Jordanian security forces suppress demonstrations and arrest a number of demonstrators in support of Gaza around the Israeli embassy in Jordan.”
https://t.me/youseffares19/72933
Elsewhere it was reported an organiser in Jordan was jailed for a year.

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2025 0:56 utc | 250

Quotes copied but without links, might as well post these, possibly a double post, own research before requote:
“A Jordanian court sentences Islamic Action Front leader “Mohammed Al-Hawamdeh” to one year in prison for supporting Gaza”
“Netanyahu: Blowing up and dismantling Iranian nuclear facilities must be done under American supervision and implementation.”
“Libya’s Grand Mufti, Sheikh Sadiq al-Ghariani:
Storming Gaza’s crossings is an individual obligation for Muslims, and crossing guards must disobey the orders of their administrations and rulers and allow the entry of fighters and aid convoys, for there is no obedience to anyone in disobedience to God.”

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2025 1:06 utc | 251

The Yanks are hammering Yemen right now.
But Yemen may be demilitarizing America.
From Big Serge

Per the NYT, the Pentagon is considering dipping into Asian stockpiles (Guam, Okinawa) to replenish all the munitions its spent in Yemen over the last few weeks.

NYT archived link
https://archive.ph/elXTW

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2025 1:08 utc | 252

All countries and tribes liberally use deception in all wars, not just Israel.
Posted by: Spectator | Apr 9 2025 0:37 utc | 258
The difference is the depth, intensity and egregious nature of the deception Israel engages in.
The difference is that the israeli species uses deception in war and in peace and their wars against those who are not at war with them.
The difference is the degree to which Israel is willing to violate the most basic Human norms and morals in the execution of that deception.
The difference is the breadth of impact on innocent lives of the Israeli culture of military deception.
No species on earth practices military deception in such an egregious manner at the cost of so many innocent lives, to the detriment of so many non-threatening nations.
No species on earth, other than the israeli species practices it to such a degree of detriment to mankind as a whole.
Thus identified as a threat to mankind, it’s in mankind’s particular interest to destroy the mossad, shin bet, IDF and if possible the extremist Jewish movements that provide them doctrinal direction like the Chabad Lubovitch.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 9 2025 1:56 utc | 253

see the 1:03 video at the third link
https://x.com/bluepashminas/status/1909081996871029200
maryam iqbal 𖦹 free kashmir @bluepashminas
they lied about hamas burning people alive only to burn palestinian journalists alive. they lied about hamas beheading babies only for us to see photos of beheaded palestinian babies. every accusation is a confession & to bear witness alone feels like an act of violence itself.
https://x.com/antoinette_news/status/1909069598101582141
Antoinette Lattouf @antoinette_news
I feel physically ill. How are images of journalists being burned alive not top story on every newssite? This is after we watched the execution of paramedics. How many more war crimes do we need to witness? Or have we accepted our institutions & their so-called values are a lie?
https://x.com/wikileaks/status/1909180899431788796
WikiLeaks @wikileaks
Two more journalists were killed in an airstrike in Gaza yesterday – 6 April 2025, one burned alive, in a press tent outside Nasser Hospital in Khan Younis. The Palestinian journalists were Helmi Al-Faqaawi and Yusuf Al-Khuzandar. Al-Faqaawi was burned alive on video inside the press tent. Nine other journalists were injured in the attack.
Israel’s war on Gaza has killed 232 journalists – an average of 13 per week – making it the deadliest conflict for media workers ever recorded, according to a report by the Watson Institute for International and Public Affairs’ Costs of War project. Gaza is now confirmed as the deadliest zone for journalists in 200 years.
Press advocacy groups such as Reporters Without Borders (RSF) and the Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ) have repeatedly condemned the deliberate targeting of journalists by the Israeli Forces.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 9 2025 3:15 utc | 254

Paris, France
Aymeric Caron, French MP from the “France Insoumise” group, calls on the French government and those complicit in the genocide in Gaza.

1 minute 50 second video
https://x.com/EyeonPalestine/status/1909670528853434689
Finally, a party is making noise in a Western Parliament. Probably won’t change anything, but it means the wall of silence still has cracks.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2025 3:32 utc | 255

see the 46-second video at the first link
see the photo at the fourth/last link
https://x.com/EyeonPalestine/status/1909691092381139029
Eye on Palestine @EyeonPalestine
“He was killed while he was going to get dinner with his grandmother”…
The child Arkan Al-Najjar was killed and his grandmother was injured as they went to buy food during an Israeli airstrike that targeted the tents of displaced people in Al-Mawasi area, Khan Younis.
https://x.com/kennardmatt/status/1909688449851867247
Matt Kennard @kennardmatt
Zionism has to be dismantled in full
There is no middle way
You cannot negotiate with this kind of evil
Like Nazism, it has to be defeated
https://x.com/samhusseini/status/1909404256945254903
Sam Husseini @samhusseini
We’ve done too much self censorship.
Take a good damn look at it.
https://x.com/AbubakerAbedW/status/1909359812418101550
Abubaker Abed @AbubakerAbedW
This is a supplied photo of a 9-year-old my interviewee doctors worked hard to save after being targeted by Israeli strikes a week ago; however, the lack of supplies has made it utterly impossible.
They also talk about new devastating strikes that cause such horrific injuries

Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 9 2025 4:03 utc | 256

Rabbi gives a detailed history of Zionist Israel going back to the 19th century.
4 minute video
https://x.com/jvjlive/status/1909530278772851009

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2025 4:34 utc | 257

He’s not a fan of Zionism.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2025 4:35 utc | 258

The Cradle has a new Pepe Escobar posting up
Russia–Iran–China: All for one, and one for all?
https://thecradle.co/articles/russia-iran-china-all-for-one-and-one-for-all
Palace intrigue continues

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 9 2025 4:39 utc | 259

The Entire World Will Tremble…
https://www.rt.com/news/615406-us-iran-war-bad/
“What happens if the US attacks Iran.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 9 2025 5:09 utc | 260

All Israel-Promoting Institutions Are Fair Targets For Protest
https://yvesengler.com/2025/04/07/all-isreal-promoting-institutions-are-fair-targets-for-protest/
“Enough with the gaslighting. Enough with the defensiveness. Justice minded Canadians need to embrace protesting genocide-promoting Jewish institutions…”
Silence is complicity. Resist don’t collaborate. Free Palestine. Free Speech. Down with Israel & its lobby.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 9 2025 5:16 utc | 261

Does anyone really take Pepe seriously anymore? I mean, he is a great writer. But I am sure it has occurred to more people than just me that he is a cheerleader. A good man filled with way too much Hopium.

Posted by: Spectator | Apr 9 2025 5:17 utc | 262

Yes, people do take Pepe very seriously.
He was in southern Lebanon with Professor Marandi, and they were chased away by the IDF. He’s a foreign correspondent and addressed a million people in Yemen 10 or so days ago.
Before all of that, he was at the Russian front lines in Donetsk.
Cheerleaders don’t get to give a quick speech to Ansar Allah.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2025 5:26 utc | 263

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2025 5:26 utc | 274
He definitely gets out there amongst all the conflicts. The dude is there.
Not sure though that I trust his judgment. Surely you saw his erroneous posts like a
year ago about the nuclear missiles downed in the Iraq desert? Baseless stuff. Anyway, I think Ritter is a bit more realistic than Pepe. I’m not a fan of the recent Ritter hate, though I recognize that it comes and goes.

Posted by: Spectator | Apr 9 2025 6:11 utc | 264

A good man filled with way too much Hopium.
Posted by: Spectator | Apr 9 2025 5:17 utc | 273
1. Baby.
2. Bathwater.
The discriminating mind knows the difference.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Apr 9 2025 6:25 utc | 265

Pray for Peace

Posted by: Exile | Apr 9 2025 6:57 utc | 266

see the 37-second video at the third link
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1909820889463472157
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
Thousands of trucks carrying humanitarian aid for 2.5 million Palestinians have been stuck on the Egyptian border with Gaza for five weeks. This is a crime against humanity. Israel is not being held accountable for its crimes.
https://x.com/caitoz/status/1909411789303054451
Caitlin Johnstone @caitoz
The mass media are giving so much more attention to the anti-Trump protests than they ever gave the anti-genocide protests because that’s their job. It’s their job to amplify opposition between the two mainstream parties while marginalizing those who oppose the crimes of both.
Movements which keep people plugged in to the two-party sock puppet show will always be amplified and encouraged, while movements which highlight the abusiveness of the US empire regardless of who happens to be in office will always be ignored at best and smeared at worst. That’s why we’ve seen so much attention go into Trumpism and anti-Trumpism while genuine anti-war movements struggle to get off the ground while pro-Palestine demonstrators are slandered as anti-semitic terrorist supporters.
As long as people can be herded into supporting either of the two mainstream parties against the other, they are fully plugged in to the artificially manufactured worldview which protects the interests of oligarchy and empire……..
https://x.com/EyeonPalestine/status/1909710236278993130
Eye on Palestine @EyeonPalestine
A child bids farewell to another child in Gaza, after Israeli warplanes targeted several tents of displaced people in the city of Khan Younis.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 9 2025 7:05 utc | 267

The Houthis (Ansar Allah) announced that they had shot down another MQ-9 Reaper Southfront reporting: combat drone on April 9, following another wave of deadly United States strikes on Yemen.
The drone was downed while it was conducting “hostile missions” over the northern province of Al-Jawf, Houthi military spokesman Brigadier General Yahya Saree said in a statement, noting that the drone was targeted with a “suitable locally-made missile.”
“This is the third aircraft that our air defenses have succeeded in shooting down in ten days and the eighteenth during the battle of the promised conquest and the holy jihad in support of Gaza,” the spokesman added.

Posted by: Vortex | Apr 9 2025 9:09 utc | 268

a good mini-analysis here
https://x.com/warfareanalysis/status/1909593272541921317
Warfare Analysis @warfareanalysis
France, the UK, and the US are terrified of losing the proxy Arab regimes over the genocide in Gaza.
France, which sent aircraft carriers to the Palestinian coast following the October 7, 2023, military raid, is the same France that murdered over 10 million Algerians during 132 years of settler colonialism.
Now, France is calling for a ceasefire in Gaza, not because colonial, racist France cares for the very Arabs it murdered by the millions, but because it fears losing the Arab proxy regimes. These regimes are the easiest and cheapest way to keep the Arabs occupied without losing a single European soldier, as in their direct occupations.
Macron of France announced today an investment of over $7 billion in Egypt. This investment has nothing to do with actual development; it’s simply an attempt to provide some stability for the criminal general El-Sisi after reports, as stated by Steve Witkoff, about rising poverty and unemployment in Egypt El-Sisi’s coup.
The same applies to the East Bank of the Jordan River, a colony created by Britain to protect the future state of Israel’s borders after its establishment.
It’s a continued British-French occupation, but now it’s indirect, with the Americans joining and leading it.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 9 2025 9:13 utc | 269

Massacre in Shujaiya…
https://t.me/youseffares19/72968
Journalist Youssef Fares
“Hamas Movement:
– In one of the most heinous crimes of genocide, the terrorist Zionist occupation army committed a bloody massacre, by bombing a residential area crowded with civilians and displaced persons in the Shujaiya neighborhood east of Gaza City, resulting in the martyrdom of 29 people, most of them children and women, and wounding more than 50 others, while the search continues for dozens of missing persons under the rubble.
– These ongoing massacres against our defenseless people, with the full cover of the American administration, a partner in the aggression, represent a stain on the brow of the international community, which stands helpless and silent in the face of the most heinous chapters of mass killing and organized genocide.
– The brutal crimes committed before the eyes and ears of the world against innocent, defenseless civilians, with the aim of genocide and sadistic revenge, will not go unpunished, nor will they be forgotten. History will hold accountable all those who remained silent and colluded with the Zionist war criminals in committing them.
It is no longer acceptable for Arab and Islamic positions to remain captive to timid statements and condemnations, at a time when the Zionist killing machine is escalating in cold blood, under the world’s nose and ears. Nor is it reasonable for our Palestinian people to be left alone in this fateful confrontation, without genuine support that rises to the challenge and the magnitude of the crime.”
“Hamas:
– The leaders of the Arab and Islamic countries must shoulder their historical and humanitarian responsibilities, and take urgent action to use pressure tools on the occupation and its supporters in Washington, in order to immediately stop the aggression, lift the siege, and hold the Zionist war criminals accountable for their crimes.
– We call on the countries that still maintain relations with the criminal Zionist occupation to sever those relations and close the embassies of the Nazi entity, in support of the blood of the innocent and of our Palestinian people who are being subjected to a savage Zionist war of extermination.
– We call on the masses of our Arab and Islamic nation and the free people of the world to continue their blessed movement in solidarity and support for Gaza, to escalate and intensify it, to rise up in the face of injustice and genocide, and to pressure by all means until the brutal genocide in the Gaza Strip stops”
Journalist Youssef Fares
“Haaretz, citing Israeli army officers:
There is nothing left to destroy in Rafah, and there is no need for all these forces being deployed. It is frustrating to return to work there.
There is competition between combat units over who can destroy the most buildings in the area they control in Gaza.
People are being killed while searching for food, in accordance with what the Israeli street says: There are no innocent people in Gaza.”
Journalist Suhaib Al-Masalma
“Almog Boker – Channel 13:
Intense Israeli army bombardment of the Gaza Strip has been ongoing since this morning. Reports indicate dozens of casualties.”
Note “Israel” claiming tunnels, now firing smoke bombs on Shujaiya, occupation press saying “only 25% of Gaza tunnels destroyed”.

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2025 11:32 utc | 270

Is this one worthy of a b
posting?
The GrayZone has an article about Israeli media exposing
a major October 7th hoaxer. The hoaxer is responsible for a
much repeated atrocity porn propaganda.
https://thegrayzone.com/2025/04/08/oct-7-hoax-expose-shelved/
Naturally Israel is trying to put a lid on the media expose’.

Posted by: Otto Penn | Apr 9 2025 12:30 utc | 271

240 Ornot, “What Russia’s problem is, I do not know.”
See John Helmer’s discussion with Nima about a week ago. On the Ukraine/US-Russia negotiation, he outlines a political history and analysis of Putin’s thinking. He asserts Putin’s memory surpasses anyone else’s, but Helmer says Putin does not have longview foresight, and his main allegiance remains to the Russian oligarchs. Within the context of the discussion this analysis makes better sense.

Posted by: Lavieja | Apr 9 2025 12:34 utc | 272

Laith Marouf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPzwxOY4-FQ
“Yemen strikes back. Resistance grows.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 9 2025 12:50 utc | 273

Fractured Ummah: How leadership crisis, disunity undermined the Palestinian cause:
Arab leaders must recognize that Israel’s expansionist policies pose a direct threat to their own security, and normalization agreements, far from bringing peace, will only further render their countries weakened and another easy pick for Israel’s expansionist ambitions, just as we are witnessing in Syria…
The time has come for Muslims to rise above their differences and harness the immense power of a united Ummah. Palestine and, indeed, the entire world cannot wait any longer.
https://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2025/04/06/745662/fractured-ummah-how-failed-muslim-leadership-undermined-palestinian-cause
Hamas is calling on the Arab and Islamic states to take concrete, effective action:
– It is no longer acceptable for Arab and Islamic positions to remain captive to timid statements and condemnations, at a time when the Zionist killing machine is escalating in cold blood, under the world’s nose and ears. Nor is it reasonable for our Palestinian people to be left alone in this fateful confrontation, without genuine support that rises to the challenge and the magnitude of the crime.”
– The leaders of the Arab and Islamic countries must shoulder their historical and humanitarian responsibilities, and take urgent action to use pressure tools on the occupation and its supporters in Washington, in order to immediately stop the aggression, lift the siege, and hold the Zionist war criminals accountable for their crimes.
– We call on the countries that still maintain relations with the criminal Zionist occupation to sever those relations and close the embassies of the Nazi entity, in support of the blood of the innocent and of our Palestinian people who are being subjected to a savage Zionist war of extermination.

Posted by: JB | Apr 9 2025 13:16 utc | 274

Israel systematically rapes Palestinian hostages and forces them to perform sex acts on each as they watch and tape it. The BBC which fabricated the rape hoax that enabled this intentionally buried this deep in their article

https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1909806619732344864
As I said,
Men get arrested. Animals get put down.
This is systematic inhuman behavior.
It also speaks to how diseased the Imperial mind becomes.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2025 14:02 utc | 275

was reading something in MSM and came across this section
“‘We are not after a nuclear bomb,’ President Masoud Pezeshkian said in a speech in Tehran today. ‘You (in the West) have verified it 100 times. Do it 1,000 times again.’
He also revealed that ‘his excellency’ Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei ‘has no opposition to investment by American investors in Iran’, saying today: ‘American investors: Come and invest.’
Such a business proposal could draw the interest of US President Donald Trump, who withdrew America from Iran’s nuclear deal with world powers in his first term and now seeks a new agreement with the country.”
Now… let us assume that this is being coordinated with RF
Could this be the “Following the conclusion of the West’s hybrid war against Russia, Europe must be punished, the US – disregarded, while “weak nations” should be pardoned” thingie discussed back in december?
If the us re-aligns with RF and Iran, that would be what?
A balancing act. And a new vulnerability for china (though not total as neither RF nor Iran would go all in with the us just to be screwed after china had been dealt with)
In the mean time europe would be finished, probably to be carved sooner or later.

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 9 2025 14:08 utc | 276

Posted by: Spectator | Apr 9 2025 6:11 utc | 275
#########
Questioning a man’s integrity when you’re a pseudonymous online poster and questioning the judgment of someone with a decades long public record who is on the ground. 😂😂😂
Is it hasbara or narcissism?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2025 14:10 utc | 277

Recommended, long but worth it:
Azmi Bishara: Without an Arab response, the region may become an Israeli sphere of influence
In a new interview, Azmi Bishara warns without a strong Arab response, Israel might have a free rein to become the region’s master.
Exc:
Arab-Israeli public intellectual, General Director of the Arab Center for Research and Policy Studies in Doha and author of The Palestinian Cause: Questions of Truth and Justice, emphasized that the Israeli war has evolved to pursue its own historical objectives, unrelated to the response to the 7 October 2023 attack. These objectives now include the annexation of the West Bank and the forced displacement of Gazans.
“These goals developed over time because Israel realized the extent of [unlimited] U.S. support—both under the previous and current administrations—and saw how Arab complacency had reached a level where some Arab officials appear to be waiting for Israel to eliminate the resistance,” Bishara said.
He reiterated that the war continues because “there’s no one to stop it. I don’t currently see any reasonable proposals that Israel would accept.” In response to questions about Egyptian and Qatari proposals for a 50-day ceasefire in exchange for the release of five or nine Israeli captives—all of which were rejected by Israel—Bishara affirmed that the only proposal Israel accepts is the full occupation of Gaza and the forced displacement of its inhabitants.
The author of Arabs in Israel: A View from Within, argued that the only political meaning of the ongoing negotiations—since the end of Biden’s term—is that they are being conducted with the United States, not with Israel.
He warned that the likelihood of Israel carrying out its plan to occupy Gaza and expel its residents increases if Arab behavior remains unchanged.
https://www.newarab.com/news/azmi-bishara-arab-region-risk-total-israeli-dominance

Posted by: JB | Apr 9 2025 14:11 utc | 278

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 9 2025 14:08 utc | 287
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Pezeshkian is such a cuck. Liberalism (emulating Europeans) gets people killed.
That said, he’ll never make another meaningful foreign policy decision.
It’s been revealed that he was the one who held back True Promise 3.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2025 14:21 utc | 279

@283 Lavieja
I would agree. I find Putin straightforward and direct about his position and intentions, no matter if those are agreed with or not. I don’t see him as part of a conspiracy either, at least not volutarily, he is intelligent enough to know how the political game is played but keeps his presentation reserved. That isn’t praise or anything similar, I just think he is a sincere person at that level.
Lack of reaction by Russia to the genocide is something different though. I don’t place that on Putin’s shoulders, “no man is an island” as they say. Meaning he does not run Russia single handedly, and so must be in coordination with government, intelligence and military, as well as various individuals of economic and social importance.
Where I say a moral stance first, he will have a hundred advisors giving reasons for maintaining ties with “Israel”. It is his country and that is just how it is. That reality is clearly a problem though, and I do not know what that is for Russia. I could say the same and greater for many other countries, the UN and EU and so on. However here I just happen to be saying it for Russia.
For the rest of regional politics I don’t have argument or dissapointment of Russia’s choices, maybe because I had few expectations. They remain cautious, and work with a form of real-politique pragmatism, i.e. to be of any influence in the region they must first remain in the region. The lines of engagement and security that influence their choices, any strategy, is way above anything we would be able to discuss, due to lack of fuller knowledge.
When I look at how western actions are understood by most people, and compare it to the little I know of what actually goes on behind the scenes, and the resulting difference of interpretation, when I then think of trying to interpret Russia’s actions beyond the obvious, I know I will only be guessing.
Still, to maintain ties with an entity that is openly murdering civilians and children…no thanks. That becomes, or better said is, Russia’s problem.
“Israel” could not wash the blood from its hands if it wanted to, and so those who shake hands with it will remain tainted indefinitely.
Eventually Russians will ask each other “What were we doing, what were our leaders doing, mixed up with these people”.
Here is an example for India also, that over the last several years has been making acceptance of “Israel”.
“Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) announced the successful completion of a series of tests on the Barak medium-range surface-to-air missile (MRSAM) system in India on Monday.
IAI reported that four operational interceptions were successfully carried out against aerial targets traveling at various speeds at challenging altitudes and ranges.
The missiles successfully intercepted their targets, achieving direct hits and neutralizing the threats, demonstrating the system’s operational capability.
The tests, conducted by the Indian Army’s ground forces, mark a significant step in the system’s development, IAI stated. Their success paves the way for all three branches of India’s armed forces to declare the system operationally ready.” JP April 2025
Makes it more difficult to portray India as having suffered previous colonial rule …
Current events are greatly rearranging the balance of the board, of social balances, at international level.
They bring, or highlight, much corruption and failure.

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2025 14:48 utc | 280

Lack of reaction by Russia to the genocide is something different though.
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2025 14:48 utc | 291
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Many Russians (including Oligarchs) are dual passport holders with Israel.
Putin will not rule long if he neglects important constituencies.
They have made statements against the genocide. The Russian support of Iran against Israel and America is a huge thing that Russia has done for the resistance.
However, people want these governments to act fast; multiply that by 1,000, and it will be closer to reality. We can get emotional, but they cannot allow themselves to become “prisoners of the moment”.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2025 15:04 utc | 281

Craig Murray’s hell is the putrefaction of Western philosophy, ever resolving to Gaza…

We come back to Gaza, as all serious discussion must at present. I cannot come to terms with the fact that the takeover of the political Establishment by Zionist interests — itself a consequence of the massive growth of the comparative wealth of the ultra-rich — is making it possible for the most brutal genocide possible to happen before the eyes of the world, with active support from the Western establishment.
It is not that the people do not want to stop it. It is that there is no mechanism connecting the popular will to the instruments of government. The major parties all support Israel’s genocide in almost all the Western “democracies.”
It has become impossible to deny the intention of genocide now. Israel has stepped up its killing of children to dozens every day, is openly executing medics and destroying all healthcare facilities, is bombing desalination plants and is blockading all food.

https://scheerpost.com/2025/04/09/craig-murray-this-hell/

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 9 2025 15:17 utc | 282

That Zionist B*stard Trump – still claiming that Hamas murdered the 15 Palestinian medics – even though the Zio-Monster, have now admitted that they murdered them and buried them and the ambulances in shallow graves.
https://thegrayzone.com/2025/04/07/trump-white-house-hamas-execution-palestinian-medics/
“Forgive me, mother. This is the path I chose. To help people,” said Palestinian medic Refaat Radwan moments before he was killed.
“The Israeli soldiers tried to cover up the crime by burying the 15 medics and their ambulances in a shallow grave. The army has since changed its story, acknowledging the lights were flashing and that they opened fire on unarmed men but claiming six of them were linked to Hamas while offering no evidence.”
Despite the clear evidence of a war crime, the US is still backing the Israeli army’s conduct.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 9 2025 15:19 utc | 283

Another Zionist B*stard exposed as a LIAR.
“Under public pressure, an Israeli network censored a report which would have exposed a key face of Israel’s October 7 PR campaign as a fabulist. Rami Davidian claimed to have rescued over 750 young Israelis and witnessed hideous scenes of rape by Hamas. His bogus testimonies were cited by the UN and filmmaker Sheryl Sandberg.”
https://thegrayzone.com/2025/04/08/oct-7-hoax-expose-shelved/

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 9 2025 15:22 utc | 284

META employs a plethora of ex-IDF Zio-Monsters.
“100+ Meta employees, including Head of AI Policy, confirmed as ex-IDF
Meta’s recruitment of vast numbers of former Israeli soldiers raises serious questions about the tech giant’s commitment to free speech – and provides a peek into a biased content moderation process that’s been heavily censoring pro-Palestinian accounts amid the Israeli siege of Gaza.”
https://thegrayzone.com/2025/04/08/100-meta-employees-ex-idf/

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 9 2025 15:25 utc | 285

Its the Zio-Monsters and their backers and supporters that are sub-human – that’s how they should be looked upon.
“far-right, pro-Israel group with a history of support for terror and genocide is working closely with the Trump administration, preparing dossiers on thousands of pro-Palestine figures it wants deported from the United States. Betar U.S. is known to have had several meetings with senior government officials and has claimed credit for the arrest and detention of Mahmoud Khalil, a leader of the nationwide anti-genocide student demonstrations that began at Columbia University last year.”
https://www.mintpressnews.com/betar-the-far-right-hate-group-helping-trump-deport-israels-critics/289301/

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 9 2025 15:31 utc | 286

@292 LoveDonbass
Demographics list 100 000 jews in Russia, so they must be “a really important constituency” :-/
Then there are about a million or so soviet jews in “Israel”, Russian speaking but not necessarily any more Russian than the person Putin seems to dislike in Ukraine.
“Oligarchs” …. you are saying Russia is politically corrupt.
“They have made statements against the genocide. The Russian support of Iran against Israel and America is a huge thing that Russia has done for the resistance.” …pragmatism.
“People want these governments to act fast”
Of course, a few weeks of placing relations on hold, then incremental diplomatic sanctions over the space of a month or so if attitude does not change, is slow but understandable. That is not what has occurred though.
“Prisoners of the moment” … they became prisoners of the moment when they did not react.
Tough.

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2025 16:08 utc | 287

Another Zionist B*stard exposed as a LIAR.
@Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 9 2025 15:22 utc | 295
Good! A reposting of a significant article is welcome.
I posted that same link @ Otto Penn | Apr 9 2025 12:30 utc | 282
No one reads every comment all the time before
making all their comments.
I know better, but sometimes it feels as if http://www.MoA has filtering algorithms –
you can read your own posts but no one else can.
I know, I know…most comments made by barflies go without a response.
Sometimes, though, it feels like a waste of effort.

Posted by: Otto Penn | Apr 9 2025 16:36 utc | 288

what a fine speech by the French MP Aymeric Caron, in defense of Palestine and against the genocide; see the 1:51 video at the third link – translated/subtitles in english too
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1909623295030276160
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
There will be no peace in the world as long as the US, its intelligence services & its hundreds foreign bases exist
https://x.com/alon_mizrahi/status/1909801329457025159
Alon Mizrahi @alon_mizrahi
Listen to every god-damned word. Look and listen to the clapping. This with full Zionist dictatorship in place. When it falls, the monsters will have nowhere to run
https://x.com/EyeonPalestine/status/1909670528853434689
Eye on Palestine @EyeonPalestine
Paris, France
Aymeric Caron, French MP from the “France Insoumise” group, calls on the French government and those complicit in the genocide in Gaza.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 9 2025 18:45 utc | 289

@299 Otto
Message in a Bottle – Sting
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MbXWrmQW-OE

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2025 18:55 utc | 290

Ayman Hanideq
“What’s harder than being killed directly is waiting to die under the rubble. You hear the attempts to rescue you and the crews’ inability… then you die slowly of suffocation.
A young man from the Shuja’iyya massacre texts his sister while he’s under the rubble.”
Journalist Yousef Fares from Gaza:
“A brother communicates with his sister from under the rubble, minutes away from death. He hears the voices of his sisters and brothers as they utter their last words and with them their souls… Oh our pain, our endless sadness.
How can our hearts endure days like these?”
https://t.me/youseffares19/73017

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2025 19:10 utc | 291

@ Ornot | Apr 9 2025 18:55 utc | 301
Having signed the notorious #NoHostageLeftBehind letter, Sting put himself on the side of the grnocidalists.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2025 19:46 utc | 292

@300 michael
Micron is saying one thing but doing another. He tacitly condemns “Israel” in a showy way but does not sanction it, he supports a middle of the road process managed by allies but does not restrict overflights or condemn for genocide, says no more arms are being exported to “Israel” but without clarity on exports taking place, etc.
I recently noticed UK take this stance also, called out “Israel” on displacement but saying nothing of genocide.
Appears that they are trying to cover all bases, or else just out to confuse.
It seems the further left are about the only ones willing to call anything as it is.
Below are just varying examples of french positions.
….
Journalist Youssef Fares
“French President Macron:
Gaza is not a real estate project, and history and geography cannot be erased.
The reality is that there are two million people trapped after long months of bombing and horrific war.
All the wounded children and women I met said one thing: they will return to Gaza”
…..
https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/gaza-war-french-arms-sales-israel-marked-lack-transparency-and-control
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France is now second largest arms exporter, replacing Russia’s position.
“The findings by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (Sipri) coincide with an announcement by European Union states that they intend to strengthen the continent’s defence capabilities….
The report published on Monday found that the United States strengthened its position as the world’s top weapons exporter with some 43 percent of global exports and France confirmed a distant second place with 9.6 percent.
“France has now cemented its place as the second largest exporter vis-a-vis Russia, which was at that position some time ago,” Mathew George, director of Sipri’s Arms Transfer Programme told RFI.
France is also “making those inroads into different areas with exports to Asia and the Middle East” he says.” RFI

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2025 19:49 utc | 293

@303 malenkov
Thanks for saying, that surprises me as normally he is understood as “rights involved” . It is hard to keep track of where artists are at with all of this…maybe he has since changed his mind but if so cannot find reference to that. Found …
“Famous artists around the world, like Sting, who already performed in Israel more than once, and Florence and the Machine, have announced that they would not perform in Israel, under pressure from Waters and the BDS movement. According to Israeli promoters, many of these artists are using Waters as a pretext to avoid concerts that would ultimately prove unprofitable, considering the logistics involved in performing here…” SettlerPress
It is an interesting topic, given artists hold so much public influence, as well as that media is much owned/biased towards “Israel” ….

Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2025 20:14 utc | 294

Ray McGovern & John Helmer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im-l4xRj5Qg
“On the edge: Iran ready for the worst with America.”
Fascinating session with these two seasoned analysts.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 9 2025 20:43 utc | 295

“Oligarchs” …. you are saying Russia is politically corrupt.
Posted by: Ornot | Apr 9 2025 16:08 utc | 298
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China is the only major country I am aware of that is not corrupt.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 9 2025 21:07 utc | 296

Jonathan AC Brown
@JonathanACBrown
Let me translate for foreigners: it’s totally ok to be racist or bigoted to anyone (enough of this woke bs!), but you can’t criticize Israel cause that’s antisemitic.
https://x.com/JonathanACBrown/status/1910051537298022683
USCIS
@USCIS
We will NOT tolerate terrorist sympathizers. To make America safe again, USCIS will consider aliens’ antisemitic activity on social media and the physical harassment of Jewish individuals as grounds for denying immigration benefit requests.
Learn more:
https://www.uscis.gov/newsroom/news-releases/dhs-to-begin-screening-aliens-social-media-activity-for-antisemitism

Posted by: Menz | Apr 9 2025 21:18 utc | 297

Hamas Launches Unprecedented Legal Case in Britain, Demanding UK Remove its Terror Designation.
The action was initiated by a Hamas founder, Mousa Abu Marzouk, who submitted a signed declaration to the Home Secretary.
Full Story from @jeremyscahill
In an extraordinary legal filing submitted Wednesday in London, Hamas argued that the British government should remove its designation of the movement as a proscribed terror group and recognize its legitimate role as a Palestinian resistance movement engaged in a struggle for self-determination and liberation. A top political leader of Hamas rejected allegations that the movement is an anti-semitic terror organization, asserted that Hamas poses no threat to Western nations, and argues that the political organization has never engaged in an armed operation outside the boundaries of historic Palestine.
“Hamas is not a terrorist group. It is a Palestinian Islamic liberation and resistance movement whose goal is to liberate Palestine and confront the Zionist project,” wrote Mousa Abu Marzouk—head of international relations for Hamas, and the applicant for the claim to the U.K. home secretary—in a signed and submitted witness statement provided to Drop Site. “We also look outwards to draw inspiration from the glorious tradition of all those peoples and groups who have resisted colonialism, occupation and imperialism in the name of justice, dignity, and human equality,” referencing historical struggles against colonialism and imperialism from across the world. The legal summary prepared by lawyers representing Hamas highlights the African National Congress in South Africa and Sinn Féin and the Irish Republican Army in Ireland as historical analogues to Hamas and the fight for Palestinian liberation.
MORE…
https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/1909926259045388375

Posted by: Menz | Apr 9 2025 21:21 utc | 298

@ Ornot | Apr 9 2025 20:14 utc | 305
Sting is also pro-Ukronazi.
Not that I could ever stand his sinusoidal whine anyway.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 9 2025 21:22 utc | 299

Visualizing Palestine
@visualizingpal
Israel’s threat to shut down six UNRWA schools in Jerusalem yesterday is part of a long history of colonial control, censorship, and destruction of Palestinian education. Learn more in our recent visual, “Learning Under Apartheid”.
https://x.com/visualizingpal/status/1909926898882294076

Posted by: Menz | Apr 9 2025 21:22 utc | 300