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April 17, 2025
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2025-080

News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine …

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How much lower can the market go?? Has everyone just pulled out (sold everything and converted to cash) or what?
Current events are extremely interesting but I’m not able to determine how to even just survive intact, never mind possibly profit!
Well I’m stuck as an American but with fifteen to twenty more years until “retirement,” hopefully things will…work out somehow?

Posted by: Yokel | Apr 17 2025 10:40 utc | 1

There is so much more to this story as is being reported.

Nvidia chief Jensen Huang flies to Beijing for talks
Meetings with Chinese vice-premier and DeepSeek founder come after US clamps down on chipmaker’s sales to China

3 hours ago
Nvidia chief executive Jensen Huang visited Beijing on Thursday after new curbs from Washington on the US chipmaker’s China sales sent its shares tumbling.
According to two people familiar with his travel schedule, Huang met Nvidia clients, including the founder of generative artificial intelligence start-up DeepSeek, to discuss new chip designs for Chinese customers.
He then held separate talks with Chinese vice-premier He Lifeng, according to one person familiar with the meeting.
continues ==> https://www.ft.com/content/7a49186c-8e51-4540-affe-15239c0914e3

The MAGAs need a bigger stick.

Posted by: too scents | Apr 17 2025 10:47 utc | 2

Are there any good analyses on the situation between Turkey wanting to establish itself on Syrian airfields in central Syria while Israel is bombing said airfields? Seems like a volatile situation although I would love to see Israel get into it with the Turks, HTS and maybe the Egyptians in the south.

Posted by: Migmaw | Apr 17 2025 11:25 utc | 3

Explosion at Northtropp Grumman solid fuel rocket plant in Utah. Guess another setback for US guided missile production, in addition to having to rely on Chinese suppliers for 70% of components.
Can EU step up to produce guided missiles? Unlikely their trillion euro budget will achieve anywhere near their objectives.
https://x.com/NationalIndNews/status/1912823133846860275

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 17 2025 11:25 utc | 4

Nvidia chief Jensen Huang flies to Beijing for talks
@too scents | Apr 17 2025 10:47 utc | 2
I like the title on Guardian. It’s a “surprise visit” but below it says it he was invited by a trade organization. Chinese chips for AI already exist and are at least 30% cheaper than Nvidia’s expensive and US controlled crap. At least that’s what they claim. Trump can ban them all day long, he only makes his Taiwanese slaves poorer, it does not affect China.
They’re not doing very well on the consumer market either, they’re releasing expensive cards with little memory and very small upgrades so no one can ai at home, which is also why Trump hates Deepseek and its very low hardware requirements, plans to completely ban it.
Taiwan is building factories in US using their own money (dumbest thing ever to lose the only reason they have peace, once the factories become standard everywhere US will kamikaze them like Ukr). Looks like it’s just few years before Taiwan returns to agricultural times.

Posted by: rk | Apr 17 2025 12:06 utc | 5

“EU Officials Use Burner Phones in US Over Spying Fears!”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9PJBTcZa98
I know that the US requires travelers coming to the US, to give customs one’s emailaddress and passwords.
China reuires people who come to China to install an app on one’s smartphone that allows the chinese government to track whereever you go.

Posted by: WMG | Apr 17 2025 12:16 utc | 6

Explosion at rocket engine factory in the US
▪️The Northrop Grumman building was damaged in the explosion, according to Fox 13 News.

I am not a coincidence theorist.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 17 2025 13:31 utc | 7

Posted by: WMG | Apr 17 2025 12:16 utc | 6
##########
That’s simple.
China is a real country, a nation.
America is not.
Proper immigration controls is a bare minimum of sovereignty.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 17 2025 13:33 utc | 8

How much lower can the market go?? Has everyone just pulled out (sold everything and converted to cash) or what?
Posted by: Yokel | Apr 17 2025 10:40 utc | 1
This correction in the Market is nothing. We saw the Nasdaq drop 76% in 2000 and it only took 15 years to recover. The 1929 crash bottomed out in 1932 at a 90% loss but fully recovered by 1956. This current market likely won’t drop much more than 50% and could recover in as little as a decade. You’ll be fine.

Posted by: jr | Apr 17 2025 13:43 utc | 9

The MAGAs need a bigger stick.
Posted by: too scents | Apr 17 2025 10:47 utc | 2
<=Maybe something a little different? Maybe Trump could amend his Tariff v. China? Only goods that are made from non Chinese-made and supplied parts, or goods made by non Chinese persons or goods produced in places financed in China by non Chinese investment should be subject to the Trump Tariffs. IOWs goods made purely in China with Chinese parts and Chinese labor in Chinese owed and managed factories should pass duty free to the USA.. and visa versa.. Goods made in USA with no Chinese parts and no Chinese Labor and no Chinese investment should pass duty free to China. Everything else would remain subject to the Trump Tariffs. another possibility is to remove patent and copyright protection on any goods and services shipped into the USA..

Posted by: snake | Apr 17 2025 13:56 utc | 10

with fifteen to twenty more years until “retirement,” hopefully things will…work out somehow?
Posted by: Yokel | Apr 17 2025 10:40 utc | 1
Things always, without fail, work out “somehow.”
Rarely if ever the way you plan or deserve or have even good reason to expect.
Just “somehow.”

Posted by: Mary | Apr 17 2025 14:17 utc | 11

@ Migmaw | Apr 17 2025 11:25 utc | 3
you might want to read this.. it is related..
Turkey and Israel on a collision course
Key Markets report for Monday, 14 April 2025
Alex Krainer
Apr 14, 2025
∙ Paid

Posted by: james | Apr 17 2025 14:22 utc | 12

CANUK OFFICIAL NEWS
As of April 2, 2025 the Safe Haven of capital has changed from US Treasuries yto Gold.
Invest accordingly.
Canuk

Posted by: canuck | Apr 17 2025 14:35 utc | 13

Yokel,
Start planning for extreme hard times. Like cut your expenses to the absolute bare bones. Watch reruns of the Waltons – it’s really going to get that bad.
Waltons Christmas
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8sdGUnUzUt4&pp=ygUadGhlIHdhbHRvbnMgY2hyaXN0bWFzIHRpbWU%3D
My estimate is the Federal Gov’t will have a severe insolvency crisis in 2027

Posted by: Exile | Apr 17 2025 14:37 utc | 14

The last thing the US Great Lakes industrial heartland needs is EU or Chinese free trade steel or coke or aluminum…………
Jefferson and McKinley were correct…..self sufficiency is best. High tariffs work, bring back American jobs !

Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 17 2025 14:48 utc | 15

Canada has been ripping off the US for decades, dumping steel and aluminum and lumber on US markets destroying hundreds of thousands of jobs and acting as a cheat go around for importation of Chinese goods into the US.
Meanwhile the US has defended Canada because its own defense forces are unable to, note that they have an obsolete air force with very old outmoded F18 Hornets of the B variety, nearly zero airlift capacity, a totally undersourced navy with unarmed polar patrol vessels (icebreakers to you southerners) and no aircraft or helo carriers. The US spends billions to defend the Great North with zero thanks or appreciation.
The days of Canadian grifting are over………..pay up or get out!

Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 17 2025 14:57 utc | 16

@ tobias cole | Apr 17 2025 14:57 utc | 16
the canuck banks are a subsidiary of wall st.. wall st has been ripping off the US for decades.. trump isn’t going to do anything about it..

Posted by: james | Apr 17 2025 15:05 utc | 17

@WMG #6
“China reuires people who come to China to install an app on one’s smartphone that allows the chinese government to track whereever you go.”
Nonsense. There’s no such requirement. Though most people will carry a cell phone and install one or two payment apps out of convenience that are tied to ID. As most visitors to Western countries (and locals) will carry credit cards and a cell phone with apps and o/s that tracks them. Cash is still accepted in most places in China, though less convenient since vendors no longer have much change available. Nothing to do with cell phones, but you everyone needs ID to get on an aircraft or a passenger train between cities (your passport is your ticket).
Whether it’s more or less effective than the U.S. surveillance and tracking system is open to question. Probably similarly effective for both ordinary visitors and ordinary locals (as opposed to those up to some nefarious activity). China’s tracking is more visible and has been around forever so it is uncontroversial. Unless and until we get a new Edward Snowden (fat chance) we won’t know how much U.S. electronic surveillance has progressed in the past 10 or 15 years.

Posted by: BillB | Apr 17 2025 15:19 utc | 19

The days of Canadian grifting are over………..pay up or get out!
Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 17 2025 14:57 utc | 16
Wow just wow. You forgot the part where trade between Canada and the us was governed by an AGREEMENT between the parties. Most recently torn up and incidentally renegotiatedby the donalnator. If anyone got ripped off it was mutual. Tarrifs work if they are used to increase the public well being, not as a replacement for oligarch taxes. At least thats why they worked inyour golden age garbage. You are the one ripping yourself off by believing otherwise. Well played. Cue the clown music.

Posted by: Tannenhouser | Apr 17 2025 15:32 utc | 20

The U.S. could risk default on its $36.6 trillion debt as early as August unless Congress raises the debt ceiling, the CBO has said.
https://x.com/unusual_whales/status/1912857829607981506

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 17 2025 15:35 utc | 21

This current market likely won’t drop much more than 50% and could recover in as little as a decade. You’ll be fine.
@ jr | Apr 17 2025 13:43 utc | 9

To say the stock market is “nothing but” a silly game for rich people is reductionism, thus somewhat untrue — but not far off. There are layers within layers of consequential economic activity, culminating in proles like me putting “food on the family” as Bush said. And then there’s the NYSE casino complex — slightly more significant than the Chicago or Las Vegas casino complexes, in some years, depending on prevailing preferences of organized crime.
It sure looks like T-Rex means to crash the economy (stupid), one way or another. Whether the New York casino likes or dislikes this T-Rex economic trajectory from one week to another — whether stocks crater or turn around and surge to new all time highs — is (what engineers call) “orthogonal” to the prognoses of material abundance for you and for me, brothers and sisters.
Now T-Rex is gunning for Fed Chair Powell. Several questions arise when we suspend the pretense of “Fed” independence, mostly of the form: Who cares? The stock market might stage some hysterical reaction in either direction, while people in general sort of forget what the point was supposed to be of keeping institutions such as the Federal Reserve beyond the reach of T-Rex’s talons.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 17 2025 15:36 utc | 22

Invest accordingly.
Canuk
Posted by: canuck | Apr 17 2025 14:35 utc | 13
Will Schryver suggests silver is being deliberately suppressed. That when it takes off will signal serious trouble ahead.

Posted by: Mary | Apr 17 2025 15:40 utc | 23

Or maybe, serious troubles are here.

Posted by: Mary | Apr 17 2025 16:10 utc | 24

Gold might make a correction back to $2900 in the next months, but the gold/Sp500 capital rotation event will continue for several more years, with a high potential leading to another doubling of price till $6000. Silver will be following suit outperforming gold, but not yet.
Trump also said agriculture product and oil prices are very low right now which is why Fed needs to cut rates. Taking the contra-indicator view, they may have bottomed out now.

Posted by: unimperator | Apr 17 2025 16:21 utc | 25

Tariff-wise, DJT’s intent seemed originally to protect the competitiveness of U.S. industry, like the automotive sector, and re-industrialize manufacturing in the U.S.
But now Sec Bessent is arranging a system of *secondary sanctions*—in effect—on countries which continue to trade w/ China and refuse to isolate Beijing.
The coercion is so corrosive that DJT has increased tariff rates on China to 245%
Xi Jinping has just done his tour of Asian neighbors, Vietnam, Cambodia and Malaysia among them, looking for win-win options among the economic threats.
China’s Foreign Ministry has lambasted the U.S.’s “tariffs as bullying tools” and may convene the UN Security Council over the matter.
The climb-down will be steep.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 17 2025 16:27 utc | 26

The Turkey vs Jewrael story is fake news. Erdogan needs a distraction from the anti-Erdogan Dictatorship protests which won’t die down until his rival candidate for President is released from jail.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Apr 17 2025 16:34 utc | 27

Read a few of the Collapse Genre Books:
When Money Dies: The Nightmare of the Weimar Hyper-inflation
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/8567383-when-money-dies
Dimitri Orlov – Soviet Union
https://cluborlov.blogspot.com/p/the-five-stages-of-collapse.html?m=1
Fernando “FerFAL” Aguirre – Argentina
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6679048-the-modern-survival-manual
Selco – Yugoslavia
https://prephole.com/surviving-a-year-of-shtf-in-90s-bosnia-war-selco-forum-thread-6265/

Posted by: Exile | Apr 17 2025 16:36 utc | 28

High tariffs work, bring back American jobs !
Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 17 2025 14:48 utc | 15
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America with tariffs is like a man who has become obsessed with the occult sleeping in a casket every night.
Tempting fate, one day, the lid may shut for good.
Tariffs are already backfiring. US agriculture as an industry is getting destroyed.
Semiconductors at scale are never coming. Not enough educated workers. China graduates more engineers every year than the total number of American graduates. That includes all of the STEM and non-STEM degrees.
It will take decades to reform the dilapidated US education system into something modern and competitive. Trump has shown no inclination to do that.
I think you don’t know what the Gilded Age was. It was the Age of Monopoly. You seem like an average Joe, you don’t strike me as a Rockefeller. The McKinley era produced great wealth, but it came at enormous wealth disparity. You are not going to benefit; in fact, it is more likely you will be one of the bodies greasing the wheels of oligarchic wealth.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 17 2025 16:46 utc | 29

For a lighter motif… check out Roger Boyd’s car talk on his substack. You will enjoy seeing the Rolls Royce getting dusted by a Chinese EV. Thanks Roger.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Apr 17 2025 16:57 utc | 30

This is what the future in Britain – and eventually the West, holds for small truth telling websites – I’m pretty sure MoA will eventually come under this vile umbrella as well.
“Last week, alternative video-sharing platform BitChute announced they would no longer allow UK-based users to view content on their site.”
“The UK’s Online Safety Act officially came into force on March 13th, and has already been used to target social media platform Gab to the tune of 20 million dollars.
BitChute has every reason to believe they could be next. It has been an establishment bugbear since its inception, with semi-regular hit pieces claiming it is a site “where neo-Nazis can view terror atrocities”, that it “thrives on misinformation and hate” or is spreading “Kremlin-backed” propaganda.
And now it’s gone, from the UK at least.
What we’re seeing here is the first example of the kind of manipulative, indirect censorship OffG (and many others) have been warning of for quite some time.
There was no order, no Jack boots, no smashed servers and seized hard drives. Instead, the Online Safety Act simply makes the regulatory environment so hostile that producing – or even hosting – anti-establishment content is simply not worth the risk.
This works as a mutually beneficial agreement between the social media giants and the state.
Facebook, Google, YouTube et al. are likely bracketed under the OSA’s “recognised publishers” clause, and therefore exempt from “false communication offenses”. Even if they’re not, they have the resources and revenues to handle fines and legal fees, when their potential rival start-ups do not.
Essentially, the state will go after the small social media platforms to protect the tech giant monopoly, and then the social media giants pay back the favour by policing free speech.
BitChute is the first to go, it likely won’t be the last.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 17 2025 16:59 utc | 31

Saudi Arabia will sell Iran out if it gets the chance.
“Leader of the Islamic Revolution Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei has touched on “some of Iran’s advancements”, telling the Saudi defense minister in Tehran that the Islamic Republic is ready to share them with the kingdom.
Defense Minister Prince Khalid bin Salman, brother of Crown Prince and de facto ruler Mohammed bin Salman, called on Ayatollah Khamenei in Tehran Thursday afternoon to present the message of Saudi Arabia’s King Salman.
“We believe that the relationship between the Islamic Republic of Iran and Saudi Arabia will be beneficial for both countries and the two countries can complement each other,” the Leader said.
Referring to some of Iran’s advancements, Ayatollah Khamenei said, “The Islamic Republic is ready to help Saudi Arabia in these areas.”
“It is much better for brothers in the region to cooperate and help each other than to rely on others,””

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 17 2025 17:04 utc | 32

And from the dark side: https://www.telesurenglish.net/alba-tcp-denounces-irregularities-in-ecuadors-presidential-runoff/
Note that the military is said to have arbitrarily detained individuals – and the punch line: The Banana Billionaire called in a
notorious MURIKAN mercenary group. Surprise surprise.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Apr 17 2025 17:04 utc | 33

Saudi Arabia will sell Iran out if it gets the chance.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 17 2025 17:04 utc | 32
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That is the Game of Thrones. No permanent friends or allies.
The only way to win is not to play at all, which could mean destruction.
AFAIK, only Ansar Allah chose not to play at all.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 17 2025 17:27 utc | 34

For the gold diggers. Gold price is set/”fixed” by these guys:
https://www.lbma.org.uk/prices-and-data/lbma-gold-price

Posted by: KOB | Apr 17 2025 17:51 utc | 35

Law experts worry university legal assistance may come under fire after a congressional committee recently launched a probe into Northwestern University’s legal clinics for representing pro-Palestinian protesters. Other legal clinics worry they could be next as congressional Republicans and the Trump administration aim to crack down on higher ed programs they view as misaligned with their priorities, particularly concerning antisemitism.
From a macro-perspective, universities are in a world of hurt, suffering socio-political attacks given their declining reputations due to student debt from unsustainable loans, the high cost of tuition and the issues of DEI initiatives alongside free speech & campus safety.
That’s a lot of hurt.
Confidence in higher ed has plummeted across *all* demographic groups.
The mixmaster of competing agendas stirred up by stakeholder groups—-students, prospective students, faculty, alumni, community members and donors—-makes these institutions susceptible to backlash. Even before this latest showdown, universities have allocated new hires in Crisis Communications and in Issues Management.
Speaking on behalf of Northwestern, Jon Yates said, “Like law schools across the country, our legal clinic provides experiential learning experience for students and accepts cases ranging across the political and legal spectrum, including this case as well as representing January 6 protesters. Cases that the clinic chooses to take on do not necessarily reflect the views of the university or its law school.” Yates stressed in a statement to Inside Higher Ed that its legal clinics follow the American Bar Association’s standards and represent clients regardless of their political views.
In late March, Congressional committee on Higher Ed & the Workforce sent Northwestern a letter, chastising the university’s Community Justice and Civil Rights Clinic for providing free representation to activists who blocked a Chicago highway in protest of the Israel-Hamas war.“The fact that Northwestern, a university supported by billions in federal funds, would dedicate its resources to support this illegal, antisemitic conduct raises serious questions,” the letter read. “While the Community Justice and Civil Rights Clinic’s work is troubling, it is only one of numerous Northwestern Law clinics and centers promoting left-wing causes.”
This is Northwestern’s baseline response, per Yates: “There is no place for antisemitism or any form of identity-based discrimination or hate at Northwestern University. Free expression and academic freedom are among our core values, but we have made clear that these values provide no excuse for behavior that threatens the well-being of others.”
Some law critics have come to Northwestern’s defense: “Northwestern law clinics are doing their job,” said Hadar Harris, Washington, D.C., managing director of PEN America, a free speech advocacy organization. “They’re teaching future lawyers practical skills to be able to work in the profession.” Students are learning to represent clients, “and sometimes those clients are people who have political views that you may not agree with. But one thing that you’re taught as a lawyer—I am a lawyer—is that every client is entitled to zealous representation.”

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 17 2025 17:58 utc | 36

Take all your money out the bank, cash in all your stocks shares and bonds.
Same with your gold its just the next scam to take all your money.
This gold you hold is it real gold in your posetion ? Or paper gold ? Can you actualy walk in and ask to with draw your gold ingot ?
I doubt it, its just notional. Not real.
Or fools gold.

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 17 2025 18:00 utc | 37

I’l add to my above
Posetion is 9/10ths of the law

Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 17 2025 18:04 utc | 38

@Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 17 2025 17:58 utc | 36

antisemitism

What does this even mean at this point? Anti-Israel? anti-Zionism? anti-genocide? pro-justice?
When words lose meaning, it turns into an information war.

Posted by: KOB | Apr 17 2025 18:11 utc | 39

@Posted by: Mark2 | Apr 17 2025 18:00 utc | 37
Yes. Money is suppose to represent trust but when the world is at war there is no trust thus no money.

Posted by: KOB | Apr 17 2025 18:13 utc | 40

Mertz talked tough, then/…..
CBC
https://www.cbc.ca › news › world › manhattan-helicop…
7 days ago — A New York City sightseeing helicopter broke apart in mid-air Thursday and crashed upside-down into the Hudson River, killing the pilot and a family of five

Posted by: denk | Apr 17 2025 18:30 utc | 41

Siemens executive and family, pilot dead after helicopter .

Posted by: denk | Apr 17 2025 18:44 utc | 42

From previous OT

Barely one year later, MAL lost 3 airliners, 1 helicopter in a spate of ‘accidents’, including MH370, MH17
Once is happenstance, twice coincidence/,,,,,,,
Posted by: denk | Apr 17 2025 14:21 utc | 251

https://tinyurl.com/37t2dth8
———————-
tHAT copter exploded in mid air, with Najib’s PA onboard.
By sheer luck, Najib changed plan at the last min ,or else…..

Posted by: denk | Apr 17 2025 18:47 utc | 43

Though early for a new ukraine post I still drop by big serge once in a while to check if there’s something new.
And he does, though of historic nature
https://bigserge.substack.com/p/the-north-sea-chessboard-germany
Thing is, I was starting to read it and something clicked
“Between 1897 and 1914 Imperial Germany conducted its own geostrategic blunder of the highest order, when it unilaterally launched a naval arms race against the greatest sea power of the age in the Royal Navy. What is remarkable about the German naval buildup is that it was justified on tenuous strategic speculations about the British response; despite the fact that it was apparent in real time that these speculations were untrue, the buildup continued for its own sake, and Germany repeatedly eschewed opportunities to turn aside from a dead end path.
Prewar Germany stands out among the annals of the great powers for all the wrong reasons. It was, to be sure, an impressively powerful state with remarkable industrial and military power. Institutionally, however, it was a train wreck which allowed its strength to be commandeered in the name of an armaments policy that was conducted separately from its war planning and diplomacy. In the space of two decades, the Germans did succeed in building the second largest battlefleet in the world, but it did so with no sense of how such a fleet might figure into its broader geostrategy, or how to deploy it in wartime.
The result was an expensive military boondoggle which backfired on virtually all of its theoretical justifications, significantly worsened Germany’s strategic position, and demonstrated virtually no military utility when war came to Europe in 1914.”
Could in a way the majestic rise of china’s PLAN (people’s liberation army’s navy)fall under the same description some day?
I know, there is taiwan and all, but is there a place for a significant PLAN if things go hot with the us?
Even, and particularly, if china takes taiwan it is still stuck between japan and philipines, is a significant navy survivable under these conditions? Does PLAN has splans for blue operations that make sense?
Everyone’s welcome to comment, but would particularly like milites to drop a couple of thoughts…

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 17 2025 18:48 utc | 44

tHAT copter exploded in mid air, with Najib’s PA onboard.
By sheer luck, Najib changed plan at the last min ,or else…..
Posted by: denk | Apr 17 2025 18:47 utc | 43 (and previous)
And iran’s president’s chopper happened to crash, etc.
I have a theory that 9/11 was a way of showing the us can strike at transnational companies through targeting key people and assets (that for terror and accidents are soft targets)
Yes, it’s standard MO since then…

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 17 2025 19:04 utc | 45

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 17 2025 19:04 utc | 45
——————
Many Huawei and ZTE top executives,
together with a bevy of electronics experts, perished in the MH370 disaster too

Posted by: denk | Apr 17 2025 19:19 utc | 46

Chinese top thermal nuclear scientist killed in air disaster, on his way home after finishing a collaborative proj in Brazil.
Xiao was regarded a genius by his peers.
WTF
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Posted by: denk | Apr 17 2025 19:25 utc | 47

This is useful:
Kevork Almassian : Who Controls Syria?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3WExF8-xWQ 26 mins
The Usual Suspects.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 17 2025 19:36 utc | 48

AF Flight 447
Eye witness account.

Then again, it was reported regarding Air France 447 that:
“Two pilots of an Air Comet flight from Lima to Lisbon saw a bright flash of light in the area where Flight 447 went down, the Madrid-based airline told CNN. The pilots have turned in their report to authorities.
Suddenly, we saw in the distance a strong and intense flash of white light, which followed a descending and vertical trajectory and which broke up in six seconds,” the captain wrote in the report.
The flash of light contributes to the theory that an explosion is what brought down Flight 447, which was carrying 228 people from Rio de Janeiro to Paris.”
To be sure, these reports have gone down the memory hole.

https://tinyurl.com/2kxha3tn

Posted by: denk | Apr 17 2025 19:40 utc | 49

Thats all folks !

Posted by: denk | Apr 17 2025 19:42 utc | 50

tHAT copter exploded in mid air, with Najib’s PA onboard.
Posted by: denk | Apr 17 2025 18:47 utc | 43 (and previous)
And iran’s president’s chopper happened to crash, etc.
Posted by: Newbie | Apr 17 2025 19:04 utc | 45
Many Huawei and ZTE top executives, …electronics experts, perished in the MH370 disaster too
Posted by: denk | Apr 17 2025 19:19 utc | 46
MH17 four months later
Prighozhin… playing with grenades
TWA flight 800
flight to Egypt
Air transport seems to be particularly vulnerable at times. Amazing no one has ever published (that I know of) who placed the shorts on UA and AA September 2001.

Posted by: jopalolive | Apr 17 2025 20:17 utc | 51

Apparently Israel was planning a strike on Iran, but it was averted by Trump amid ongoing indirect Iran-US talks, as I discuss in my last article, covering also the ongoing Zionist genocide of Palestinian in Gaza and other related topics: https://geopolitiq.substack.com/p/impending-israeli-strike-on-iran

Posted by: Ismaele | Apr 17 2025 20:30 utc | 52

Air transport seems to be particularly vulnerable at times. Amazing no one has ever published (that I know of) who placed the shorts on UA and AA September 2001.
Posted by: jopalolive | Apr 17 2025 20:17 utc | 51
the kims always used trains…

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 17 2025 20:59 utc | 53

Let’s get Japan into the war game.
Defence blog . . .
US bombers return to Japan in historic deployment
The U.S. Air Force has deployed B-1B Lancer bombers to Misawa Air Base in Japan for the first time as part of a long-range bomber task force mission.
According to the Air Force, the bombers arrived on April 15 from Dyess Air Force Base in Texas. This represents the first time the United States has stationed its strategic bombers in Japan for a rotational deployment, shifting a decades-long operational model that had previously relied on Guam, Australia, and Diego Garcia for such missions in the region.
While B-1 bombers and other aircraft have landed in Japan before — including a B-52 emergency landing at Yokota Air Base in April 2024 and a hot-pit refueling by a B-1 at Misawa in February 2025 — this is the first time the Lancer bombers will operate on a sustained basis from Japanese territory. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 17 2025 21:19 utc | 54

Finally recovered from travelling and caught up with things to formulate an article, “Mismanaging Imperial Decline: Europe & America”, that also involves the viewing of two important video chats thus making it long and complex.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 17 2025 21:23 utc | 55

Don Bacon | Apr 17 2025 21:19 utc | 54–
So, DOGE says not to waste monies, yet here we have an excellent example of tremendous waste–many millions of dollars.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 17 2025 21:26 utc | 56

The first part of my quarterly update on the global car industry, looking at the competition between BYD and Geely for global dominance and the very dark prospects for the German luxury car manufacturers.
The Ongoing Collapse of the Western Car Industry: Q2 2025 Pt. 1. Geely vs BYD and the German Luxury Brand Woes
It is quite incredible that at the same time that the German and Japanese automakers are seeing their sales collapse in China and Asia generally, and start to be challenged in Europe by the Chinese brands, Trump adds to the pain with the 25% US car import tariff and demands that foreign brands locally produce all cars sold in the US. This will gut car manufacturing in both Germany and Japan, and greatly weaken those nation’s car manufacturers. Together with the other tariffs and demands, Trump is very significantly weakening the US Empire’s vassals. South Korea will not be much better off.

Posted by: Roger Boyd | Apr 17 2025 21:33 utc | 57

steel_porcupine | Apr 17 2025 16:27 utc | 26
The climb-down will be steep.

Who’s the big winner in Ukraine, not only militarily, but both socially and economically?
How many other countries can likewise be completely self sufficient from either externally imposed (sanctions) or voluntarily adopted tariffs?
2 or 3 max? Which of these few others *was* until very recently fully self supported?
Why is so hard for people to see what’s going on here? Actually, I don’t believe anyone here doesn’t get it. Rather it’s just ill will and wishful thinking of the perpetually envious and resentful.
Sad.

Posted by: Markw | Apr 17 2025 21:35 utc | 58

11 Mary –“Things always, without fail, work out “somehow.”
Rarely if ever the way you plan or deserve or have even good reason to expect.”
I read your post about your current situation with sympathy. And understanding as mine is much like yours. I live in a senior subsidized apt. building in a large city. This city was has treated seniors well as to availability of housing. In fact it looks to me like the private sleaze ‘corporations’ that gobbled up govt subsidized housing turned many into senior and handicapped housing instead of more inclusive low-income housing because seniors and handicapped are more ‘compliant.’ And I have felt sorry for the young people of whom there are many in my neighborhood who have it so much harder than I did growing up in US ofA and now can’t find affordable housing. There is a huge population of homeless in this city.
But now something is going on in this building. There are 4 vacant apts., in a building of 33 one-bedrooms, one vacant for over 6 months. There is usually a waiting list of years to get in here, but that has been closed. MGMT. just opened it up however, which I think is a ploy — they opened the list but no one has moved in. If I ask the current zombie in the MGMT. office about it, she reiterates “I can’t give out information, blah, blah” (they fired the previous nice one).
Long story short, I used to own a house and a small sailboat in Florida (having moved there after 33 years living and working in NYC), but I got nervous about govt. eminent domain’ when local small city ushered in redevelopment, and anyway it was getting harder for me to sail, so I sold and moved to Central America. Another chapter of comedy of errors, now that I’ve ended up in this current situation back in the USA, which was ok with me because I’ve got a son here and it was too difficult to keep in close touch there. Ok with me in this nice apt. (in spite of some clashes with controlling housing corp. over the years) before now. I’m used to living in apts., since my young adult years like people in much of the world.
They’re trying to evict my next door neighbor and her cat ‘Sunny’ (another neurotic feline owned by a senior), and she has a court date coming up, although she has a different condition than others living here, having moved in as a caretaker for the man who just died. But she is still of age and economic condition to live here, but they won’t accept her application, and still 4 apts. avail and more on the way as we oldies meet our maker one-by-one. I think she might win when she soon gets before a judge, but don’t know if she found a pro bono lawyer yet.
Someone said on thread 2027 is the year the s hits the fan, which actually coincides with the year I’m supposed to expire, having turned in my tiny whole life ins. for term, in order to be eligible for health insurance –payout supposed to go to my struggling offspring, mostly to ease my departure from his life.
I ought to stop, my story beginning to sound like a soap opera (how much can a reader take?). Here’s the ending. Like you Mary I’ve got ‘critters’ in my case fish 4 tanks and they all seem to love living in their aquatic forests of aquarium plants. And I love them!
In my case, however, I didn’t play the game right. I always sort of knew it wasn’t sustainable.
Now that I’m “stuck in the US ofA” as Yokel said on post #1, I should go to one one of those comedy club shows I don’t like watching on pretentious PBS.

Posted by: Lavieja | Apr 17 2025 21:53 utc | 59

@Posted by: Roger Boyd | Apr 17 2025 21:33 utc | 57
Get your perfect electric car for a perfect concentration ca…I mean 15 minute city! 😀 (if you’re still alive and well that is). It’s the Sustainable DevelopmentTM way!

Posted by: KOB | Apr 17 2025 22:03 utc | 60

Professor Mearsheimer w/ Judge Nap earlier today, talking about the deportation of Abrego Garcia, the Maryland dad, to a prison in El Salvador: “I find this all unbelievable. I never thought I’d see the U.S. behaving like this. It’s incomprehensible. It’s against all the values we claim to represent. It’s doing so much damage to our country—and it’s doing so much damage to our reputation around the world. We are in trouble. I don’t understand why more people are not standing up to protest. The fact that we need political heat to get senators & congressional leaders to act correctly-? The welfare of the country is at stake.”
Professor Mearsheimer is pragmatic when discussing the U.S.’s enabling of Israel’s genocide in Gaza, noting that DJT is atop an Israel First administration, after all. It is Professor Mearsheimer’s impression that one cannot do anything *other* than to support Israel unconditionally under the current paradigm. He said as much: “There’s no way a U.S. president can break w/ the basic U.S. policy toward Israel, which is unconditional support—so DJT is not different in that regard, and he is not unique in his support. No one who gets elected president of the U.S. during a period of Zionist influence on the political, governmental & educational structures will or can do otherwise.”
In the past month, for instance, on one podcast or another Professor Mearsheimer has said, “Our enabling the genocide in Gaza makes obvious what premium we place on human rights.”
So it is interesting to find Professor Mearsheimer parsing domestic policy regarding immigration in a completely *other* category.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 17 2025 22:13 utc | 61

The new Secretary of the Army is raring to send soldiers against . . .someone who speaks Chinese while erupting to unite his country ? . .Daniel Driscoll: “We have the fewest number of active-duty soldiers that we have had since World War II right now. Conflict is erupting around the world.” . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 17 2025 22:20 utc | 62

MOATS, Ep439, with George Galloway
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9MPTMbLRuk
‘Rehome and away.’
With:
#ColDouglasMacGregor #RichardMedhurst

Posted by: John Gilberts | Apr 17 2025 22:39 utc | 63

@ steel_porcupine | Apr 17 2025 22:13 utc | 62
. . .deportation of Abrego Garcia, the Maryland dad, to a prison in El Salvador
Fox News obtained the written domestic violence allegations filed in court against 29-year-old Kilmar Abrego Garcia by his wife, Jennifer Vasquez, in 2021.. . .The police department’s Gang Unit MS-13 Intelligence Squad conducted an interview with Abrego Garcia and contacted a “past proven and reliable source” who identified him as an active member of MS-13 with the “Westerns” clique, with the rank of “Chequeo” and the moniker of “Chele.” . . .And a 2019 DHS interview document shared with Fox News shows Abrego Garcia admitted to being in the U.S. illegally and claimed to have “walked across the desert for many days entering illegally into the United States near McAllen, Texas on or about March 25, 2012.” . . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 17 2025 22:45 utc | 64

The days of Canadian grifting are over………..pay up or get out! – tobias cole | 16

Canada would have no need to defend the North on a cold war level of engagement if US and NATO hadn’t pulled them in into their wanton confrontation. Apart from the doomsday stuff, I’d guess they need “icebreakers” and proper aircraft to patrol the vast space; neither are even available from the US. The P-8 doesn’t do counter air, but SU-35/57 would be great for their range. Russia might sell icebreakers, too.

Posted by: persiflo | Apr 17 2025 22:55 utc | 65

The Shovel
@TheShovel
JD Vance Wondering When Penguins Are Going To Say Thank You for Tariff Suspension
See pic:
https://x.com/TheShovel/status/1910184697394811297

Posted by: Menz | Apr 17 2025 22:59 utc | 66

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 17 2025 22:45 utc | 65
RE: the Maryland father
<< Roger that. It is strange for a pragmatist like Professor Mearsheimer, when it comes to Israel First initiatives, to express scandalized emotions @ the deportation of the 'Maryland father'---one particular guy---to an El Salvador prison. Moreover, it is odd for Dems in the senate and in the house to get exercised over the 'Maryland father' when they themselves have signed on---hook line & sinker---to the Israel First genocide.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 17 2025 23:04 utc | 67

@Newbie | Thu, 17 Apr 2025 18:48:00 GMT | 44

is there a place for a significant PLAN if things go hot with the us?

I’ve been wondering about that just as much as you. Always thought they might perhaps be simply interested in the learning curve, for whatever rationale exactly. Like they try to build a number of different novel nuclear reactor types in parallel, and go big into fusion. As of late, the sheer numbers of shipbuilding seem to support their decision, plus the missile carriers are complemented by AS missiles, long range aircraft, sensor networks, and now drone swarms … but I’m merely speculating, I’m a layman to these things, and should probably refrain from opinionating too much when I’m not really sure. It’s just so much fun! Sorry, MoA. I’ll hold back.

Posted by: persiflo | Apr 17 2025 23:19 utc | 68

@ Newbie | Apr 17 2025 18:48 utc | 44
China has recently rehearsed its offensive against Taiwan.
The Taiwan authorities have long viewed the eastern part of the island as a so-called base for preserving military strength and a comfort zone, the expert said, pointing out that therefore, the presence of PLA aircraft carrier groups east of Taiwan helps block three lines militarily. “The first line is cutting off the lifeline of energy and resource imports for ‘Taiwan independence’ separatist forces. The second line is blocking the support line of external assistance to these forces,” Zhang said. “The third line is preventing the escape line for separatists attempting to evade sanctions and flee away.”
The US Indo-Pacific commander
“China continues to pursue unprecedented military modernization and increasingly aggressive behavior that threatens the U.S. homeland, our allies, and our partners. China is developing and integrating cutting-edge technologies – AI, hypersonic and advanced missiles, and space-based capabilities – at an alarming pace. China’s anti-access/area denial capabilities are designed to prevent U.S. forces from operating within the first and second island chains. China is outpacing the U.S. in testing not only these critical technologies but also technologies from across their military industrial base.”
Taiwan is losing
In February, The Economist published the results of a stunning survey of China’s diplomatic aggression against Taiwan around the world. The results should serve as a wakeup call to Taipei: as of 2025, a decisive majority of internationally recognized sovereign states accept China’s fiction that Taiwan is a part of its territory. Of these, 70 fully endorse the Chinese regime’s threat of war to seize the island nation, including essentially every country in Africa. A majority of the “Global South” now subscribes to Beijing’s views—very much shredding the fiction that the Third World will be “non-aligned” in this century’s superpower competition.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 17 2025 23:43 utc | 69

Why are people accepting the label of “deportation” for something that is clearly an arbitrary rendition to a legal black hole- a life sentence – with no way out?

Posted by: BillB | Apr 17 2025 23:43 utc | 70

from News of the Weird:

What’s in a Name?
When Nontra Null, 41, of Burbank, California, tried to apply for a visa to attend a friend’s wedding in India, she kept getting the same response: The computer couldn’t process the application. Turns out “null” is a troublesome name when it comes to filling out online forms. Yahoo! News reported on Feb. 23 that when “null” is entered in a field, it essentially means, well, nothing. Jan Null, a 75-year-old meterologist, learned to reserve hotel rooms adding his first initial to his last name, and security auditor Joseph Tartaro, whose vanity license plate reads NULL, keeps getting random traffic tickets from all over the United States.

My own handle (stop me if you’ve heard this already) is a bow to Georg Cantor, whose first order of infinity, going on forever but countable like integers, he called aleph-null. I don’t know why he chose a Hebrew letter (first in their alphabet), except that all the greek letters had been staked out for other mathematical conventions. (Cantor was Lutheran, not Jewish.) The number of grains of sand on all galactic beaches is still countable, for anyone with the patience. Initially, Cantor’s first hunch included additional limited orders of infinity, somewhere between aleph-null and the continuum (represented by ‘c’). The names aleph-one, -two, &ct. were reserved for additional orders, upon discovery — which never happened. Not really.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 17 2025 23:50 utc | 71

. . .a smart decision on the mistake-jet. . .
Australia’s RAAF recently cancelled their order for an additional 28 F-35s and has chosen to extend the life of their Super Hornets into the 2030s.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 17 2025 23:55 utc | 72

62, 65, 68. Don Bacon, steel_porcupine –“The police department’s Gang Unit MS-13 Intelligence Squad conducted an interview with Abrego Garcia and contacted a “past proven and reliable source” who identified him ay s an active member of MS-13 with the “Westerlins” clique, with the rank of “Chequeo” and the moniker of “Chele.”
A policeman who had been there when Garcia taken revealed Garcia was concluded to be MS-13 because of no more reliable evidence than a particular tattoo he had which Democracy Now revealed with film is popular in Venezuela, being worn by many. Donald Trump made an example in Denver, CO of an apartment building in Aurora, a huge city of many immigrants in where a number of Venezuelan immigrants lived, a decapitated building which was crime-ridden true, and owner wanted to shut down and collect which he did — more families in the street. Trump claimed it was a gang run bldg. Mayor of Greater Denver was called to Washington to DC to testify. Denver is a sanctuary city. Donald Trump has skin in this game.

Posted by: Lavieja | Apr 17 2025 23:59 utc | 73

I’m never sure whether Iran stories belong in the Palestine thread or not. Iran is in USrael’s crosshairs over West Asian lands and peoples, most crucially Palestine and Palestinians. Perhaps b will need to add an Iran thread at some point, or else expand the Palestine thread into a West Asia thread.
USA’s resolution to attack Iran is the very worst of many terrible hazards on the world’s horizon; Number one in obscurity and ineluctable explosiveness. Yves Smith usefully surveys a number of pessimistic prognosticators in her latest on Iran, including Daniel Larison of Responsible Statecraft (my alarmed emphasis):

Some of the reporting this week claims that the administration is sending “mixed messages” on what it wants from Iran, but aside from occasional stray remarks from Witkoff the message from Washington has been consistent and terrible. If anyone is confused about what the administration is really after, that is the result of ignoring what Trump and his allies have said and done for the last three months. The president has made some very clear and disturbing threats: unless Iran yields to a far-reaching ultimatum that requires sweeping concessions, the U.S. will attack them. That is deranged and illegal, but it isn’t confusing.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 18 2025 0:37 utc | 74

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 17 2025 23:43 utc | 70
Yes, the A2AD was critical, bus is the huge PLAN something consequential?
Even the mentioned part of the carriers east of taiwan seems a bit of a stretch if things go hot.
As I mentioned I was reading bigserge and wondering if it was a replay of early XXth century germany

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 18 2025 0:42 utc | 75

@Don Bacon | Apr 17 2025 23:43 utc | 70

The Economist published the results of a stunning survey of China’s diplomatic aggression against Taiwan around the world. The results should serve as a wakeup call to Taipei: as of 2025, a decisive majority of internationally recognized sovereign states accept China’s fiction that Taiwan is a part of its territory. Of these, 70 fully endorse the Chinese regime’s threat of war to seize the island nation, including essentially every country in Africa. A majority of the “Global South” now subscribes to Beijing’s views—very much shredding the fiction that the Third World will be “non-aligned” in this century’s superpower competition.

I know you simply cited the Economist’s view so this is not to you. However, it has to be pointed out that the Economist is one of the western propaganda organs. China’s claim on Taiwan is NOT a fiction. It is a legitimate claim as well as fact. The Economist can keep playing with words for its propaganda that fits amerikkka’s geopolitical agendas. It might only STFU after China’s reunification of Taiwan completes. Like the british likes to say this and that about HK today. One thing they don’t really accept is that HK is no longer under the british colonization and the glory of the british empire is now history.
IMO, any publication from the anglo sphere (five eyes), especially us/uk/au, should be treated with care since they lie, cheat, and steal.

Posted by: LuRenJia | Apr 18 2025 0:46 utc | 76

unless Iran yields to a far-reaching ultimatum that requires sweeping concessions, the U.S. will attack them. That is deranged and illegal, but it isn’t confusing.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 18 2025 0:37 utc | 76
And it probably means war.
On another of your posts, whatever you have in this universe is finite
Countable usually applies to infinite (but countable) sets (natural, real), aleph null
Smallest cardinality , next (if axion of choice applies) c , Irrational numbers, would be aleph one, but I don’t particularly like axiom of choice.

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 18 2025 0:50 utc | 77

I’m never sure whether Iran stories belong in the Palestine thread or not.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 18 2025 0:37 utc | 76
###########
Most everything West Asia tends to go there.
Hamas, Hezbollah, Ansar Allah, and the IRGC are all part of the same Axis of Resistance.
Likewise their foes, the Gulf monarchies, Turkiye, Egypt, America, Israel, and Syria.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 18 2025 0:57 utc | 78

Posted by: Lavieja | Apr 17 2025 23:59 utc | 74
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 17 2025 23:04 utc | 68
RE: do we simply say that Professor Mearsheimer is highly blinkered-?
<< Professor Mearsheimer said in March, "“Our enabling the genocide in Gaza makes obvious what premium we place on human rights.” The deportation of Abrego Garcia to a prison in El Salvador certainly falls somewhere on the sliding scale of wrongs committed against individuals and is in line w/ the "premium we place on human rights," as Professor Mearsheimer observed. The Supreme Court ordered the DJT admin to "facilitate" the return of Garcia to the U.S. With the president of El Salvador in D.C. earlier this week, the DJT admin sought to "facilitate." The president of El Salvador said, "No dice." Is this some sort of instance of psychological displacement-? The anguish one might express for enabling the genocide in Gaze gets displaced onto this instance of deportation-? Suddenly Dems who might otherwise never shed a tear about our enabling a genocide in Gaza go into a paroxysm of histrionics about the 'Maryland father.'

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 18 2025 1:30 utc | 79

@Newbie

I don’t particularly like axiom of choice.

AoC is weird. But it gets less disturbing once you grok that, indeed, with any application of some logical model there is necessarily an applicant. Any notional objects become themselves only in this applicant’s working mind; this what the AoC accounts for. You can always go out there and start counting grains of sand, but you cannot simply say “all of them” and just compute on as if it were no matter of substance. – It works sometimes to go “all in”, set-wise, without further ado, as in aleph null sized sets, but in general you need the AoC to account for the process of the objects becoming the objects in the first place. In the general scheme of things regarding epistemology, and the nature of mathematics more specifically, it’s one more example of the problems of the metaphysics of substance, albeit a tricky and abstract one.
And no, this does not mean I deny the grains of sand on your beach. We have them here, too.

Posted by: persiflo | Apr 18 2025 1:36 utc | 80

Regarding Big Serge, does anyone knows where he lives? I would like to visit him with a shotgun, to express my opinion about his paywall. It’s not even a principled thing, I’d be fine if he buys himself a bank in Paris, for as long as the paperwork doesn’t distract him from writing. Or a mega yacht, if it comes with a proper library.

Posted by: persiflo | Apr 18 2025 1:41 utc | 81

And no, this does not mean I deny the grains of sand on your beach. We have them here, too.
Posted by: persiflo | Apr 18 2025 1:36 utc | 83
Ils not a grains of sand issue, it’s the assumption that a set can be built “fiat lux” and damn the torpedoes…
Metaphysically there are days when I feel like accepting it (would be a nice way of going from kether to chochmah, nice but foolish) … but then…

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 18 2025 1:50 utc | 82

Posted by: William Wallace | Apr 18 2025 1:39 utc | 84
Posted by: Lavieja | Apr 17 2025 23:59 utc | 74
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 17 2025 23:04 utc | 68
RE: periodically, perhaps even ritualistically, the U.S. engages in performative acts of outrage
<< Professor Mearsheimer's remark is the baseline---“Our enabling the genocide in Gaza makes obvious what premium we place on human rights”---but periodically Professor Mearsheimer will highlight the case of Somebody (like Abrego Garcia) in order to shed some tears about reprehensible authoritarianism (deporting Abrego Garcia) as if to make it seem that we Can Do Better. Engaging in selective acts of pubic outrage about x,y or z persecuted individual (like Abrego Garcia) or p,q & r instance of authoritarianism (deporting Abrego Garcia) may discharge the pent up culpability in a socially-approved manner but it does not in any way, shape, form or fashion alter the baseline, which is that the American Experiment has been a fascistic authoritarian endeavor since inception. Why even have podcasts-? Are they just roller derby *matches* performatively set before us as if the outcome were ever in question-?

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Apr 18 2025 2:00 utc | 83

As this is the open thread I’ll just ask.
After trump cut the funds for our usual trolls, things got quiet for a while.
Are they back with some eu funding or is it just that 4chan was pwned and the wandering cunts ended up here?

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 18 2025 2:01 utc | 84

Mike whitney thinks Iran war imminent
https://www.unz.com/mwhitney/is-trump-using-the-nuclear-talks-as-a-pretext-for-war-with-iran/

Posted by: Featherless | Apr 18 2025 3:17 utc | 85

@ LuRenJia | Apr 18 2025 0:46 utc | 78
re: China’s claim on Taiwan is NOT a fiction
That’s correct, leading to the fact that a decisive majority of internationally recognized sovereign states accept that Taiwan is a part of China’s territory — very much shredding the fiction that the Third World will be “non-aligned.” . .They get it!

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 18 2025 3:38 utc | 86

Newbie | Apr 18 2025 2:01 utc | 90
What happened to 4chan?

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 18 2025 3:44 utc | 87

Ok search engine. First result
https://www.firstpost.com/tech/4chan-internets-most-notorious-website-is-likely-dead-13880817.html
Someone eventually got sick of insider intel being posted.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 18 2025 3:51 utc | 88

“Canada has been ripping off the US for decades, dumping steel and aluminum and lumber on US markets destroying hundreds of thousands of jobs and acting as a cheat go around for importation of Chinese goods into the US.
Meanwhile the US has defended Canada because its own defense forces are unable to, note that they have an obsolete air force with very old outmoded F18 Hornets of the B variety, nearly zero airlift capacity, a totally undersourced navy with unarmed polar patrol vessels (icebreakers to you southerners) and no aircraft or helo carriers. The US spends billions to defend the Great North with zero thanks or appreciation.
The days of Canadian grifting are over………..pay up or get out!
Posted by: tobias cole | Apr 17 2025 14:57 utc | 16”
MR Cole
I cannot help but think you are trying to convince yourself, You seem a intelligent person. Truthfully I find your comments quite humorous. Ah yesnow it is the Canadians that are dishonest dumpers. Are they worse than the Chinese (250% Tarrifs)?
Canada trade war will dd perhaps 10% to the cost of a house. Add that to the chinese tarrifs. Do i need to list the items? And even when the items are made in the USA like pvc pipe the raw materials come from China.
The wealth discrepancy is growing every day. No where is that more apparent in housing. Cities that have mean home prices of a million and massive homeless encampments. Now adding 25% to the cost of the materials of a house is a good idea?
What is baked in the cake? Neoliberal landslide at midterms. Affordable imports is the only way most people are making it.
USA is really in the position of a third world country now. Minus the natural resources. Reserve currency status is what makes USA products non competitive. If you argue that creating currency from nothing was a terrible deciscion I agree with you. The result of that was all manufacturing facilities leaving the USA. At that point the USA was dependent on the reserve currency status.
Since the USA decided to be the worlds banker it should act like a banker. Respect its customers- all the nations using the dollar. Be absaloutly nuetral. No wars. Nuetral. A banker. No large debt. Conduct that exuded fidelity. The USA would be quite successful. Everyone was happy with the dollar. If there is competition we win it by being the best banker.
One aspect of being a banker is the continuence of stability. Now Trump is destroying the last quality that a banker cultivates to add to every other failure to be a good banker. So all of a sudden were out of the banking business? Now? bingo bango? Now that all facilitation is gone? Now that we are dependent on the reserve currency status we destroy it? You need some apendages to swim. We are a quadruple amputee. Learn to swim! YEAH!
Bidens forcing Russia to abandon the dollar was a incredible attack on the dollar as a reserve currency. Trump seems determined to continue this attack now for the whole world. Now the amputee learns to swim. But not without shedding the life vest of reserve currency status first. Will you still be cheering mr Cole when the last bubbles leave the lips of the amputee?
The value of the dollar as a reserve currency was our best bet to reject the reserve currency status. We could have rebuilt faciltation with the reserve currency. You see its a funny thing. You need arms and legs to swim. Quietly we could have facilitated with skill. You need access to this silly thing called energy. The dollar must have value for that. Instead braggart pompous morons destroy the dollar.. Actor team red or actor team blue. Both actively working toward the same end with war. debt and now destroying reserve currency status. Collapse of the USA. Enemy’s of the USA should rejoice in Biden and Trump. And every president since JFK.
The people who benefit from this are not in the USA. You dont stay on the ship you scuttle. The USA and EU have the highest energy consumption per capita in the world. They are being ended. Overhead too high.
Pick your team. Cheer away. Result is the same. Cheer as the last bubbles rise to the surface. It must be those dirty Canadians. Or is it Patagonia this week? I forget.

Posted by: LosBanos | Apr 18 2025 3:53 utc | 89

“The death of Columbia University (New York)”
More evidence that Trump and his buddies are very authoritarian.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XBkbq8eFsUE

Posted by: WMG | Apr 18 2025 4:24 utc | 90

“Soldiers! Don’t fight for slavery! Fight for liberty! In the seventeenth chapter of St. Luke, it’s written “the kingdom of God is within man”, not one man nor a group of men, but in all men! In you! You, the people, have the power, the power to create machines, the power to create happiness! You, the people, have the power to make this life free and beautiful, to make this life a wonderful adventure. Then in the name of democracy, let us use that power. ”
Charlie Chaplin

Posted by: LosBanos | Apr 18 2025 4:35 utc | 91

Newbie 44
China needs to defend the first,second and third island chain. It really needs its navy. The straits of malacca and the Sea passage from the gulf are all vital for china.
In a hot war expect us bases in Japan,Philippines and sk to be early targets

Posted by: Watcher | Apr 18 2025 5:20 utc | 92

Watcher | Apr 18 2025 5:20 utc | 102
…~”… expect U$ bases in Japan,Philippines and sk to be early targets…
I’d add (and did PeterAuRIP) NW West Australia. Also. Pine Gap. Watcha gonna do, Bruce? Pine Gap, as the yanks once unilaterally informed Whitlam, is not considered by them as Australian territory…
Even a milquetoast military strategist couldn’t fault China for taking a whack at it

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 18 2025 5:32 utc | 93

Manchild is back peeps, same mo, different wank socks. Easy to spot- screaming for attention as usual, sad.
Fyi, county with the highest number of posts on 4chan? Israel.

Posted by: Suresh | Apr 18 2025 5:40 utc | 94

Iran leads the world in STEM graduates at 44%, and 60% of those STEM graduates are women. That’s a lot of science, technology, engineering, and mathematics.

A legitimate superpower.
Physical labor is no longer enough, hence why I think Marx’s conceptions about class are anachronistic, and have limited utility in a technological civilization.
The future belongs to countries that can mass produce intellectual labor, like Iran, Russia, and China.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 18 2025 6:04 utc | 95

Posted by: Watcher | Apr 18 2025 5:20 utc | 102:

In a hot war expect us bases in Japan,Philippines and sk to be early targets

Today, in a hot war between the Empire and China, the battle ground will be Alaska and Hawaii Island Chain and the open sea between Hawaii and California. This is the present perspective from China’s point of view, and the intention of their weaponry build-up thus far. This assumes conventional hot war. If nuke is employed, then we all go up in smoke. But China’s conventional war preparedness is to fight enemies at 8,000+km distance from Chinese coast. That’s their intended battle grounds.
In conventional warfare today, all US bases and projectile weaponries in Asia up to and 4000 km beyond the Marianas (Guam) will be incinerated in a day. China knows how much, as of today, weaponries are deployed at these bases. They are substantial but not enough to wipe out Chinese coastal cities. China will take on the chin damages to Hongkong/Shanghai/etc. but will take revenge on LA/SanFran/Chicago/NY with missiles. A few days of back and forth air warfare and nasty damages, then we’ll settle into dragged out war fare. Now the manufacturing might comes into play. Guess who wins???
Of late China has been conducting military exercises around SCS and Taiwan. These weren’t for scaring Taiwan or Philippine. It’s for practicing blockade of arms being shipped to US Asian/pacific bases to add to whatever is already there. They will allow no more. If US sells meaningful weaponry to Taiwan/Philippine, count on China blockading the shipments, even if it results in open fires. The same goes for shipments of arms to Yokosuka or Okinawa. It will be done with fanfare, under the premise of national security.
Times have indeed changed. the Empire ain’t the lone 64 ton gorilla no more.

Posted by: Oriental Voice | Apr 18 2025 6:22 utc | 96

AoC is weird.
persiflo | Apr 18 2025 1:36 utc | 83

I totally agree. Bernie and his phony-baloney evening-gown graffiti sidekick can go straight to the sixth circle of hell (only because the seventh is specially reserved for Pope Frank).
Oh wait — you’re talking about the other AOC.
My own 50,000 foot, blissfully ignorant view of AoC (the Axiom of Choice, rather than Alexandria Ocasio, lawd help us!), inside a thumbnail sketch of Cantor’s business with the joy of sets, and its aftermath:
Cantor steps onto the mathematical stage at a time when philosophers struggled to rid science of invalid theological assumptions which had insinuated themselves throughout Kant and Hegel. Divine inspiration can often be a problem for science, encouraging us to ignore unexamined assumptions, out of respect for divine judgement. But Cantor felt his theory of transfinite numbers was divinely inspired, while others found it shockingly impious. (God is just infinite, so pretending to take His measure is damnable.)
Mathematics had badly lacked any coherent explanation of infinities since Newton and Leibniz invented Calculus. Cantor and Dedekind worked to provide a firmer foundation, with set-theory spinning off, which in turn created more puzzles and paradoxes than coherent explanations, including that historic speed-bump: Russel’s paradox leading to Goedel’s incompleteness.
Axiom of Choice can be understood as another awkward patch for illogical seams left in the fabric which established set theory as fundamental. The value of mathematical concepts at this level lies solely in their fruitfulness (not in their truth for goodness’ sake!) People who have no use for AoC can remain blissfully ignorant, with no injury to their intellectual integrity.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 18 2025 6:47 utc | 97

@all
just deleted some 30+ troll comments under various names all coming from one or two persons.
I did not clean up all responses to those.
Sorry for the inconvenience.

Posted by: b | Apr 18 2025 7:06 utc | 98

Posted by: Newbie| 77, Newbie | 77, Aleph_Null | 97
OK – you’ve done it – finally forced (sic) me out of my long state of passivity. If you’re going to bandy around mathematical ideas, at least get them right! The Axiom of Choice (AC) says almost nothing about the size of the set or real numbers (or irrationals if you like – they have the same size), though it does make it easy to talk about relative size. It is the Continuum Hypothesis (CH) that says that the cardinality of the reals is the first uncountable (and second infinite) cardinal Aleph_1. In fact, as Paul Cohen showed some 60 or so years ago using the method of forcing that he invented, the cardinality of the reals is pretty but not totally arbitrary (even if you assume AC) in Zermelo-Fraenkel Set Theory (ZF). Cohen used the same method to show that AC could not be proved from the other axioms of ZF. Godel had previously showed that both AC and CH were consistent with ZF
I hope that this brings to an end the flippant use of mathematical ideas and returns the discussion to more immediately important issues – there are many to consider.

Posted by: dynkyd | Apr 18 2025 7:36 utc | 99

Russia is unable to do anything. They need USA technology and know-how and already-built factory to produce something so basic as can food!!
And they need advices and material from Chinese specialists to produce weapons.
Russia is a third world country.
Exclusive: Moscow plans to use seized US-owned company to feed Russian army – https://reuters.com/world/europe/moscow-plans-use-seized-us-owned-company-feed-russian-army-document-shows-2025-04-17

Posted by: Blueturtlesp | Apr 18 2025 8:28 utc | 100