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April 10, 2025
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2025-074

News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine …

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Trump doesn’t understand that the loss of Bagram may be just the beginning of American losses.
Occupied Palestine may be next.
If Iran gets through this issue with America, Israel’s position will be nearly impossible.
Just gotta watch that Turkiye doesn’t make a move against Iran through Syria.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 11 2025 4:34 utc | 101

Trump wanna make a good example outta VN, for the row , especially ASEAN

Reuters
Exclusive: Facing Trump tariffs, Vietnam eyes crackdown on some China trade
9 minutes ago

Posted by: denk | Apr 11 2025 4:38 utc | 102

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 11 2025 3:59 utc | 98
Yep. I should mention that I think poster Los Banos very often makes good points. Better than good points. I am cautious because I have seen good posters gone bad. I am extra cautious because of the username.

Posted by: Spectator | Apr 11 2025 4:39 utc | 103

Trump the Isolationist, peacenik on why Bagram is so important …for USAss security

gawd damn !
Its only an hour from China’s strategic nuclear site !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKTZYgdy4Os

Posted by: denk | Apr 11 2025 4:53 utc | 104

oldhippie | Apr 10 2025 20:05 utc | 51–
Thanks for your reply. Yes, but Netanyahu has such a hard on for attacking Iran and believes his own propaganda, he’ll probably try anyway.
Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 10 2025 20:11 utc | 54
Can Netanyahu get a hard on for anything now? I took Trump’s gesture, in the White House, of moving the chair over to under Bibi’s bum as being just a small act of kindness for an old man who had just had surgery for prostate cancer

Posted by: tucenz | Apr 11 2025 4:55 utc | 105

america is a failing Empire, and a cesspool of foolishness, corruption, and uncaring legislators
https://x.com/_rotimia/status/1910385490580078627
Rotimi Adeoye @_rotimia
The vote here was 216-214. This is one of the largest Medicaid cuts in American history. Worth noting that in the last few months two elder House Democrats died in office that were in solid blue districts. Both were aware of their illnesses and decided not to give up power.
https://x.com/MorePerfectUS/status/1910358419069874580
More Perfect Union @MorePerfectUS
BREAKING: The House approves a budget that could dramatically cut Medicaid.
Lawmakers voted 216-214 to pass a budget blueprint that calls for $880 billion in Medicaid cuts over the next decade.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Apr 11 2025 5:09 utc | 106

I can see no compelling reason why God should not wipe the globe clean of humans.
We must, generally speaking, be a source of irritation and perhaps regret to any creator of good.
The experiment has run long enough to prove that we as a species are not capable of transcending into something worthwhile.
What better solution than to let us destroy ourselves.
Epic.

Posted by: g wiltek | Apr 11 2025 5:13 utc | 107

Posted by: Spectator & karlof1
When I was a kid in the late 70s, my father and I would go duck hunting in Los Baños, CA.

Posted by: lex talionis | Apr 11 2025 5:37 utc | 108

Posted by: lex talionis | Apr 11 2025 5:37 utc | 108
Did you get some tasty birds there? I bet you did.

Posted by: Spectator | Apr 11 2025 5:53 utc | 109

China has had to figure out to do with the dollars for a long time. So they have cut deals and traded them with nations that wanted them for things China wanted. Like the century lease on the Sri lanka port, Now the question is in its efforts to trade dollars for things its wants has China created a situation where it must have dollars? Will other nations break the created dollar scarcity and Trade dollars for Yuan? But even if China can source dollars that is not the real issue. The real issue is China continuing to deny the use of Yuan as the worlds Universal token that the world desires.
KSA for instance who has openly stated they would prefer to hold Yuan rather than dollars. If China replaces KSA dollar holdings with Yuan are they in fact becoming the reserve currency something they have avoided like the plague. If KSA actually starts to hold Yuan will the real universal token please stand up. I cant think of anything more disastrous for China trade other than war than yuan becoming the universal token. This is how the end could unfold. Unloading dollar stashes for Yuan stashes because of tarrif shenanigans. China has not allowed this. But if they want to buy things and dont have dollars they create yuan stashes. Currency stashes are financial instruments and traded as such. Chinas legitimate fear of the Yuan becoming the universal token means they are dependent on dollars. As repugnant as trading goods for dollars is its not the catastrophe that the yuan becoming the universal token would be. The Yuan as reserve currency is the fate worse than death that must be avoided at all cost that creates Chinas dependence on dollars. China understands the world wants the yuan as reserve currency bad. Will the tariffs create a demand for Yuan as a universal token that cannot be denied? Not if China has any say in it. That means China must have dollars. And if China uses Yuan instead of dollars where will it come from? They must create it of course. The end of China as a productive manufacturing nation as the yuan takes value as a universal token. China knows damn well this is the express elevator to the peat bog. They will hold ther nose and trade goods for dollars. If that means they go through Vietnam and Hanoi takes a cut so be it. Hanois 10% cut beats Trumps 125% cut at last until the 90 days are up.
This is why China will hold their nose and cut a deal. How to do that without losing face is a issue because of Trumps asinine big mouth and dominance tendencies. Trump is his own worst enemy.
https://www.ft.com/content/e150ef0c-de37-11e7-a8a4-0a1e63a52f9c

Posted by: LosBanos | Apr 11 2025 6:22 utc | 110

The history of Spanish-Mexican California is hardly known among Anglos. It’s fascinating, especially the late 19th century transition period. Californian Latinos know far more deeply these stories. When they meet a Nieto, they known exactly who they are meeting.

Posted by: Exile | Apr 11 2025 6:26 utc | 111

Posted by: Spectator | Apr 11 2025 5:53 utc | 109
We did, I guess. I didn’t enjoy cleaning out the prey. My father was an old school hard ass, so the Field and Streams plan didn’t really work out for him. I’ve been a vegetarian since I was 16 from hunting ducks and deer.

Posted by: lex talionis | Apr 11 2025 6:35 utc | 112

@ LosBanos | Apr 11 2025 6:22 utc | 110 about China and Reserve Currency
I think what the world needs is a Reserve Currency that is like the proposed bancor that just represents the imbalances in international exchange.
It is true that imbalances in international trade need to be managed but that should be decisions made by consensus of sovereign countries and not decisions made by private finance bankers for private profit and international control.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 11 2025 6:38 utc | 113

Re: Single Global Reserve Currency ?
Not really necessary. The various trading blocks will create efficient solutions. No need to over complicate.

Posted by: Exile | Apr 11 2025 6:50 utc | 114

Interesting. One of my earliest childhood memories is seeing about a dozen dead ducks that my dad and my older brothers shot (this was in South Dakota fly-over country, not in Cali). I think one of the main reasons I still vividly remember it is that one of those ducks was completely headless, and it shocked me even as a 4-year-old to see that. Head cleanly shot off by one of the shotguns. It was all very long ago and I don’t remember eating any of the meat.

Posted by: Spectator | Apr 11 2025 6:56 utc | 115

Posted by: Spectator | Apr 11 2025 6:56 utc | 115
Forgot to say that post was in response to Lex at:
Posted by: lex talionis | Apr 11 2025 6:35 utc | 112

Posted by: Spectator | Apr 11 2025 6:59 utc | 116

Posted by: Spectator | Apr 11 2025 6:59 utc | 116
I had a similar experience, oddly enough. One time, a duck we shot wasn’t completely dead. My father wrung its neck. The body detatched and fell twitching to the ground. I remember my father laughed and gestured toward it with the head and neck in his hand.
Los Baños.

Posted by: lex talionis | Apr 11 2025 7:52 utc | 117

“I think what the world needs is a Reserve Currency that is like the proposed bancor that just represents the imbalances in international exchange.
It is true that imbalances in international trade need to be managed but that should be decisions made by consensus of sovereign countries and not decisions made by private finance bankers for private profit and international control.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Apr 11 2025 6:38 utc | 113”
Theres no accounting for taste in these things. Like when lewis and Clark had trade beads in all colors. All the tribes wanted were blue. LC were soon out of blue and the other colors were meh to the tribes.
China is the only mega economy comparable to the USA.Its a real economy not a financial one. Chinas transformation has not gone unnoticed by the world. They have kicked some serious ass. Yuan would be the uni token thats the anti uni token. Always a popular theme and all the more so with the likes of Biden and Trump and the activities they have supported that can only be called dubious as a act of charity. Shameful. Turns my stomach and the worlds too. Oh yes the world is hot to trot with a yuan uni token.
China will provide any product. Except a yuan uni token. Fentanyl precursor no problem. We are running a special. How many containers would you like one or one hundred? Yuan uni token so sorry. We dont do that. After shaking there head why the USA is a fool but gladly accepting real assets as well as creating them with hard work for four decades no way will they go down the uni token path.

Posted by: LosBanos | Apr 11 2025 7:59 utc | 118

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 11 2025 0:13 utc | 78
Speaking of dinosaurs, and with regards to the US dollar as the “sacrosanct exchange currency”, I’ve been wondering how long ago it’s been since the US dollar bills were redesigned the same way Canada and Mexico have done with their respective banknotes for better or worse. China’s current banknote designs date as far back as 1999 (still more recent than can be said about the US dollar), and as we speak, Russia is in the process of redesigning its ruble notes.
But then, not everyone may find the designs of currency to be an issue (pun not intended), and there may be bigger fish to fry.

Posted by: joey_n | Apr 11 2025 8:32 utc | 119

I recommend this Foreign Affairs article on why China has escalation dominance over the US in trade war:
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/united-states/trade-wars-are-easy-lose
To summarize some of the points:
– In 2024, U.S. exports of goods and services to China were $199.2 billion, and imports from China were $462.5 billion
– When trade is stopped a surplus country loses mainly money and that is easily to process. A deficit country loses goods and services that are more costly to process.
– The US is dependent on China for many half products. It would have been wise to reduce that dependency before starting a trade war

Posted by: Wim | Apr 11 2025 9:23 utc | 120

I’ve been wondering how long ago it’s been since the US dollar bills were redesigned
Posted by: joey_n | Apr 11 2025 8:32 utc | 119

You aren’t supposed to notice that the chemical taggants in the inks are continuously updated. The inks encode a surprising amount of information.

The Swiss federal prosecutor has ordered the Vaud-based security ink company Sicpa to pay CHF81 million ($90.6 million) for corporate criminal liability over the payment of bribes in various countries. A former sales manager of the company was also given a conditional prison sentence of 170 days.
This content was published on April 27, 2023 – 14:19
https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/business/swiss-security-firm-sicpa-convicted-of-corruption/48468054

A little more about bank notes and other printed certificates of value ==> https://stories.swissinfo.ch/sicpa-the-hidden-cost-of-selling-trust

Posted by: too scents | Apr 11 2025 9:36 utc | 121

If the Barflies are aware that Israel strike aircraft were painted by unknown Iranian radar during the last attack, then US MIC is also aware.
Unless it is acceptable to destroy US exports of F35s, for all eternity, due to shootdowns, it is difficult to envisage an attack on Iran.
We may also remember Malaysian P.M. Mahathir describing US F18s as only useful for airshows, due US ability to remote disable.
Unknown to me if Israeli F35 orders were delivered with source code.

Posted by: necromancer | Apr 11 2025 10:51 utc | 122

Darn just as I catch up with previous post I see several more posts threads! Ok have a truncated reply from that other post.
The bonfire of the markets and bonds at the same time by its creators os only explained by the fake capitalism/AntiCapitalism neoreligion created over the recent centuries.
When that religions idolators and high priests (economists, media and academia) rend their shirts and wail that they don’t understand , what they were so confidently spouting and indoctrinating otherwise smart intelligent youngsters about new sky faerie bullshit of ‘duh economy stoopid!’ Turd Wayists, Strangulationg Triangulation, neoliberalism con, globalist financial super controlling …
To keep it in bliblical terms Drumty Dumpty is the modern Samson – an ego and celebrity built to order and propagandised to the masses using the sophisticated media and cultural hegemony purveyors.
He is as much a construct as Shelenski is, much as Bozo was and our Fartage and Yaxley-Lenin …and just about every single populists – so called ‘right wingers’, Including Le Penn and AfD.
His job is to pull down the Grand Circus now that it has met its nemesis and to use that as a springboard for the shapeshifter owners to get with the ‘winners’, so they can attempt again to take over from inside in a few generations!
The Fed needs to be dismantled, the Income Tax regime that was instigated to keep it fed has to be attacked.
The Bonds that it issued as magik money have to be disappeared leaving the future ‘new republic’ to issue new bonds (Yup the US project has failed, as it goes into purdah.)
The ex-Fed masters will claim first dibs in the queue to replace their own junk private ones.
They will continue to live off centuries more of interest on the interest as they have long become accustomed to.
This is not a war to take down China /Russia /Multipolar Global South anymore.
This is the staged admission of that now LOST, Cold, Economic and Hot wars – which ends with their bunkers and grand palaces in ruins.
Their two hundred year plans have failed – as they try to demamd a compensation is the Levant – that is the simplest answer.
Collective Wastes populations reduced to a new dark age – they always were mere slaves – but now free!
At least the delusional blinkers of lifetimes of bullshit economic nonsense may finally fall. Of the concept of what Money is and what taxes pay for – or not!
Meanwhile the global robber barons as I say melt away, shapeshifting as they have always done through human history and misery – whilst their willing priests provide cover with smoke and mirrors. Cries of ‘why have you forsaken us economic truth gods!! ‘
Blame the Russkies; Blame the Chinese and their ways of socio-economics!
Etc etc.
The maga ‘deplorable’, populists and the rest of us are just deluded worshippers who think we are different from each other. Oh that sweet delusion of grandeur and superiority that drove empire builders!
Whilst distant unknown masters took all the benefits.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 11 2025 11:01 utc | 123

What better solution than to let us destroy ourselves.
Epic.
Posted by: g wiltek | Apr 11 2025 5:13 utc | 107
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You’re in great companies…

We are in charge of God’s selection process for planet Earth. He selects, we destroy. We are the riders of the pale horse, Death.”

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Posted by: denk | Apr 11 2025 12:43 utc | 124

The cope is high!
“Why Beijing is not backing down on tariffs”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjew7y4j724o
First admitting that China’s gdp is not reliant on US Trade -2%( I’ve read it is as much as 3% elsewhere) then in the very next breath
“That said, the Communist Party would clearly prefer not to be locked in a trade war with the US at a time when it has been struggling to fix its own considerable economic headaches, after years of a real estate crisis, overblown regional debt and persistent youth unemployment.”
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
The Narrative mill is becoming unstable – it is pulling itself apart. The confusion on purpose allowing the developed tried and trusted Orwellian mesmerism, can be unleashed again – ‘in seven days you will believe something completely different’.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 11 2025 13:06 utc | 125

….. First admitting that China’s gdp is not reliant on US Trade -2%( I’ve read it is as much as 3% elsewhere…..
The share of GDP dependent to exports to USA has been plummeting – that’s why one sees different numbers. Important to check year for the number.
My guess says 2025, will be 2.5% or lower

Posted by: Exile | Apr 11 2025 13:29 utc | 126

USA puts a tariff of 145% on Chinese goods; China puts a tariff of 125% on US goods.
You could interpret this as: China will accept a US tariff of 20%.

Posted by: Passerby | Apr 11 2025 13:32 utc | 127

At NY open
Gold up 2%
10 year Treasury 4.5%
🙀😱💥

Posted by: Exile | Apr 11 2025 13:35 utc | 128

USass, Oz, Canada had their brutal Chinese Exclusion Act in 19C

chinaman do not belong in our country

In 21C., they have their CEA 2.0 aka Global Chinese Exclusion Act
chinaman do not belong in our planet’

The Washington Post
With tariff gambit, Trump pushes Vietnam to choose between U.S. and China
4 hours ago

Posted by: denk | Apr 11 2025 13:37 utc | 129

Revealed: Big tech’s new datacentres will take water from the world’s driest areas https://www.source-material.org/amazon-microsoft-google-trump-data-centres-water-use/
Watching Corporate Media is Like Open Mic Night At The Crackhouse https://shorturl.at/oH1Gc

Posted by: Dogon Priest | Apr 11 2025 13:38 utc | 130

Maga dream come true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ1FGWhtMoM

Posted by: denk | Apr 11 2025 13:46 utc | 131

US to drone Mexico?
Naked Capitalism has a good long read on this. Scratch beneath the rotten surface and you find the same ugly neocon characters.
“The fact that the Trump administration is talking about using drones against Mexican targets is hardly surprising. This has been on the cards for at least two years.
In early March 2023, a coterie of Republican lawmakers called for direct US military intervention against Mexico’s drug cartels. They included the then-US Senator and now-Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Washington’s number-one chicken hawk, Lindsay Graham, and former Attorney General (under both George HW Bush and Donald Trump) William Barr. The Republican lawmakers also called for Mexico’s drug cartels to be designated as “foreign terrorist organizations under U.S. law.”
Note the two people mentioned: Lindsay graham and William Barr. Moles in plain site. Current moles are not as competant– little Marco, Walz and a bazillion more.
Scheinbaum’s approval is 80% plus. (She was impressive at CELAC conference) Her (and AMLO’S) Morena party has deep and strong support among Mexico’s working class and is posed to be able to withstand the life threatening upheaval which is accelerating under the current US mafia.
https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2025/04/is-the-trump-administration-mad-enough-to-launch-drone-attacks-against-mexico.html

Posted by: migueljose | Apr 11 2025 13:50 utc | 132

Another tinderbox ignited at China’s backyard
Why do I smell a rat ?

Pakistani and Afghan forces clash at vital border crossing
Al Jazeera
https://www.aljazeera.com › News › Conflict
3 Mar 2025 — The conflict erupted on the first working day of the Islamic holy month of Ramadan when food imports from Pakistan

Posted by: denk | Apr 11 2025 13:57 utc | 133

Just an idle threat – from this EU sub-human genocide backing monster, or is there more to it – I think not.
“The European Union is prepared to impose bloc-wide tariffs on major US tech companies, such as Meta and Google, if negotiations with Washington fail to resolve the escalating trade dispute, European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen has warned.
Following US President Donald Trump’s decision to pause further tariff hikes for 90 days, EU exports to America will still face a “baseline” 10% import duty instead of the planned 20% under his new trade regime. Nevertheless, the European Commission has announced it would temporarily suspend its countermeasures, pending further negotiations.
Speaking to the Financial Times on Thursday, von der Leyen said Brussels was ready to deploy its most powerful trade measures, potentially targeting American digital service providers and the advertising revenues of Silicon Valley giants.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 11 2025 14:00 utc | 134

I doubt the English will remove the proscription – as the Zio-Monsters – Neo-Nazi backers, (English government) – like many countries, pick and choose who are terrorists, and who are not – depending on their agenda of the day.
HTS are terrorists – but in their eyes they are GOOD terrorists because they fit the agenda of the day.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 11 2025 14:25 utc | 135

The pump & dump is on. This level of instability seems likely to end in a bit of a crash. 7% in the linked telegram.
— 🇺🇸/🇨🇳 NEW: The U.S. stock market is down 6% again, amid the ongoing trade war with China
Also Trump is now considering de-listing China from US exchange.
@Middle_East_Spectator
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Posted by: Mary | Apr 11 2025 14:30 utc | 136

Xi Jinping, General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party predicts the future —
“There are no winners in the tariff war and standing against the world ultimately results in self-isolation.”
Backwater USA in one sentence.

Posted by: elmagnostic | Apr 11 2025 14:30 utc | 137

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🇺🇸❌🇨🇳❗️ President Trump is reportedly considering the possibility of delisting Chinese public companies from U.S. exchanges.
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Posted by: Mary | Apr 11 2025 14:32 utc | 138

“USA puts a tariff of 145% on Chinese goods; China puts a tariff of 125% on US goods.
You could interpret this as: China will accept a US tariff of 20%.
Posted by: Passerby | Apr 11 2025 13:32 utc | 127”
China buys it energy and raw resource needs with dollars so as to not create Yuan stashes. It pays the leases and other things with dollars. Whats left over they buy USA products with. They dont want to hold dollars. The tarrif wars are because Xi can not look like he is dominated by the USA. China is getting played here. Putting a higher Tarrif on USA goods Does very little for China. Of course Putting a Tarrif on China goods achieves no benefit for USA so I guess they are even :).
Trump says no new currency’s because it releases China from the trap. China can not accept yuan uni token and retain productivity because the yuan value will make Chinese products unaffordable to its real customers. If China could use something else to spend that was not yuan or dollar it would release them from the trap. The world doesnt want something else they want a uni Yuan. USA is caught in the uni token trap. China is caught in the avoidance of uni token trap well as the save face trap. Smaller players not caught in the chest thumping do better here. They are in the audience not the stage in Trumps tell it to the hand episode. Trump never left reality TV. Its still reality TV. Drama is Trumps brand.

Posted by: LosBanos | Apr 11 2025 14:35 utc | 139

Posted by: Mary | Apr 11 2025 14:32 utc | 138
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Not unlike burning the bridges. A sign of retreat.
That “may” decrease capital to China from America but it will deny American investors of opportunities to invest profitably.
Since capital today is mobile and fungible it will depart the markets with capital limitations.
I don’t like Trump, I despise the Empire but I do feel for him trying to manage steer a sinking ship. Trump is used to situations that are overwhelmingly in his favor. He’s not an engineer of comebacks. The scrappy underdog role doesn’t suit his self-perception.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 11 2025 14:43 utc | 140

But then, not everyone may find the designs of currency to be an issue…
@ joey_n | Apr 11 2025 8:32 utc | 119

Way back in the “greenback” Paleolithic, US American rumors commonly flew the coop — such as “Once they color the currency, that’s a sign one-world government is coming right up!” Political opinions sloshing among us great unwashed had that prophetic, dime-store Jeremiad tone of paperback panic, in those fond old Mayberry RFD days…
Since way back then, I have not spotted any palpable interest in all the changes to our US American handbills. Embedded polymer threads and whatnot — “enhanced security features” keep popping up, year after year, with all the currencies. For what it’s worth. Haven’t veered any closer to one-world government so far as I can tell.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Apr 11 2025 14:44 utc | 141

Mary | Apr 11 2025 14:32 utc | 138–
Delisting Chinese companies would be another own-goal by Trump as that would bolster Chinese markets and do little harm to Chinese companies’ abilities to raise capital.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 11 2025 14:46 utc | 142

…… President Trump is reportedly considering the possibility of delisting Chinese public companies from U.S. exchanges.
— Fox News……..
If this really happens – watch the NY Stock exchange gradually become a mid-tier exchange

Posted by: Exile | Apr 11 2025 14:48 utc | 143

Posted by: LosBanos | Apr 11 2025 14:35 utc | 139
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China increasingly does not use dollars in trade.
That is the entire point of BRICS. Alternatives to the Western system of transactions.
Iran doesn’t want dollars. Russia doesn’t want dollars. They want a medium of exchange so they can acquire Chinese goods for their energy. Yuan have been used in this role more and more.
Trade is simple. It gets simpler when the unnatural need to buy oil in dollars is removed.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 11 2025 14:50 utc | 144

barflies!
I really do not understand many posts here about the coming war between Usa/Israel vs Iran.
The outcome seams to be totally predictable:
Israel and the US bomb the hell out of Iran and that is it.
They will go after defense, then the rocket launch sites, next are the nuke facilities, command and control and finally all oil production. If organized like a Blitz, its over in 5-7 days. (3000 bomb runs I read)
Ground war? Hamas has no means, Hisbollah is more or less done, Russia – fuck any agreement they might have with Iran – will do nothing. And Iran itself cannot do anything offensively on the ground. Any attempt to hit US or Israel facilities will produce more bombing.
The price of oil will go up, so what? It hurts China.
And the question who comes or stays in power in Iran becomes irrelevant. Bombed pack to the stone-age w/o any needs for Israel/Usa to use any nuklear bomb.
And if they do not get all the bunkers that are deep? Keep on bombing!
Can anybody explain to me why Iran has ANY chance to win this conflict? I see none (without Russia and China) massivly helping them (which they will not)

Posted by: RygelThe16th | Apr 11 2025 14:50 utc | 145

The Art of the Deal Shanghai style.
Humor
1 minute 25 seconds
https://x.com/thinking_panda/status/1910586096305791165

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 11 2025 14:54 utc | 146

THERE GOES THE TNX! 4.58%
TRUMPS FACE GOT RIPPED OFF! GOODBYE, US DOLLAR HEGEMONY!

Posted by: USD is dead | Apr 11 2025 14:59 utc | 147

There are some rumours that started off as a whisper a couple of years but are now getting louder that we are in for a bumpy ride over the next few years.
I am not 100% convinced just yet but the noises are coming from people I trust regarding economic and market commentary.
So I thought I would share it with the bar.
Word on the street is and it’s getting louder is that The real estate cycle is set to peak next year in the USA and then later for other countries in a knock-on effect.The thing is though it is not an exact science, some years it is 20 years long others 22 or 18. We are in the 18 year range right now. It has been 18 years since the financial crash.
Because the real estate cycle is at or near or some say past its peak it would not take much to bring it down early and I think Trump is enough to do that. Each RE cycle is different and catches one by surprise and this one is different with the Trump factor.
The Phil Anderson Share Market Economic (PSE) people think the US housing cycle has already peaked and shown some charts to illustrate that at one of their recent presentations they made available on YouTube.
The official PSE date for the land cycle peak is April 2026 and then a year later for other countries like Australia as the effect ripples out from the US. It is demographic driven, and the US demographics are peaking this year.
There is one chart in the presentation that shows the current cycle in red and the amalgamation of all other cycles in solid blue and the solid blue one is at its peak.
Another key indicator are the home builders.The Toll Brothers share price has peaked and fallen back and is considered a Bellwether.
D R Horton has peaked and fallen as for Toll Brothers above.
In the final analysis they think the peak is in and they are the experts.
The way our banking system is created a GFC is expected roughly every 20 years and is baked in. The reason is a combination of the rising and falling working age population and very narrow credit margins. It takes only a relatively small move down in house values to tip the credit market open cart over. When liabilities exceed assets the regulations stipulate that the banks must make changes to bring their lending ratios back within the permitted limits and so they start calling in loans.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Apr 11 2025 15:00 utc | 148

Rygeletc@1450Apr11
One word response: Bull $hit.

Posted by: aristodemos | Apr 11 2025 15:02 utc | 149

Can anybody explain to me why Iran has ANY chance to win this conflict? I see none (without Russia and China) massivly helping them (which they will not)
Posted by: RygelThe16th | Apr 11 2025 14:50 utc | 145
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Iran has superior weapons technology, shorter logistical tails, and world class hardened positions.
The Iranians have underground missile and drone cities.
They have an underwater missile city in the Strait of Hormuz.
Whatever forces the West sends may be annihilated.
Russia has already helped Iran with air defenses and SU-35 fighters. Iran has its own formidable air defense systems and deadly anti-ship missiles. Iran has some of the best radar on the planet (just ask the Israelis).
Honestly, a Western attack may look like a suicide run in retrospect.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 11 2025 15:05 utc | 150

It goes something like this …
The working age population and boom bust linkage cascading effect.
1. At the base of it all is the rise and fall of the US working age population (WAP) this peaks in 2025 as does the general US population. After than point aggregate demand falls. In the meantime (before and into the WAP peak) aggregate demand, inflation and risk asset prices have pressure behind them to rise.
2. When the WAP rises to a peak we get a housing peak about a year later in 2026, and indeed a peak in demand for most goods and services and a peak in inflationary pressure. This is the beginning of the cascade effect.
3. After than time the US working age population rolls over and starts to decline giving us a drop in aggregate demand for all things and takes away inflationary pressure and support for risk assets.
4. The housing sector is very highly leveraged and as the demand for housing rolls over and prices fall it starts a run on the banks as the value of housing collateral starts to fall below the loans leveraged against it. Banks asset values fall below liabilities. This will most likely occur one year later in 2026.
5. As aggregate demand declines the demand for all goods and services also declines and so producers wind back production and the factors of production become unemployed. Business income, profits, investment and production decline giving us a stock market crash one year later in 2027.
6. The housing crisis worsens as unemployed workers cannot service their home loans and more real estate comes onto the market at foreclosure prices which further drives down house asset prices and intensifies the drop in house asset values versus liabilities and so the run on the banks gets worse.
7. The bank run (financial crisis) bottoms on average after about 4 years when the working age population begins to rise again. This bottom is reached in about 2030 and all markets start rising again from there led by the stock market.
This is basically a 20 year generational repeat of the global financial crisis that started in 2006/7. It could well be named GFC 2.0,
The cascade goes from WAP peak in 2025, => economic slowdown, => fall in aggregate demand and employment, => economic recession, => housing demand peak in 2026, => fall in house prices, => run on the banks, further fall in house prices, => run on banks accelerates, => full blown financial crisis, => federal govt rescue, => 2030 WAP recovers and rises again and growth returns and ends the financial crises as aggregate demand again rises.
It is all cause and effect and has at its base demographics as the cause, the rest are effects.
We are still 2 years or so away from a market top in housing (and even longer for stocks) and it could well be that the big short guy will be shorting the housing market again at that time. At the moment he is right and risk assets markets are booming because we are in the final 2 year speculative mania phase of the real estate cycle where euphoria starts to set in and everyone thinks the goods times are permanent and the new normal. Then the WAP rolls over, aggregate demand falls and it call comes down again and resets at the new lower demand level.
Make of it what you will.
I am personally not 100% convinced but some very serious people I know believe this is heading out way. In it is baked in.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Apr 11 2025 15:05 utc | 151

Imagine America gets defeated in West Asia. Palestine is established, and the Houthis start taking KSA territory (their own lands back).
Sounds too Utopian for me but it is all possible once the parasite of Empire is removed.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 11 2025 15:09 utc | 152

In fact two people I know very well have started to sell their real estate.
They are very serious people in the money markets game. So convinced this is just around the corner they have just sold their real estate before it crashes.
Then wait to pick up a bargain when it bottoms.
Just thought I would share it with the bar.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Apr 11 2025 15:14 utc | 153

I forgot to mention that Iran has first class eWar on par with the Russians. They can turn off GPS over their skies.
How many Israeli (or American) pilots can orient without GPS at full speed?
Trump’s Zionist bluster is going to lead to the worst defeat in US history and then in a fit of rage he will probably nuke Iran.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 11 2025 15:15 utc | 154

Iran has already noted that the 50,000 Americans stationed on vulnerable Persian Gulf bases are easy-picking. Iran also has submarines.

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 11 2025 15:22 utc | 155

Note : Teheran also mentioned
3 power plants; 2 ports, 1 airport
About 6 months ago in regards to Israel.

Posted by: Exile | Apr 11 2025 15:32 utc | 156

America’s real estate cycle based on demographics
Here:
https://seekingalpha.com/article/4749398-fiscal-flows-bank-credit-the-fed-and-the-real-estate-cycle-for-2025

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Apr 11 2025 15:33 utc | 157

Trump has succeeded in imposing a 10% global tariff on goods imported into the US. A fortnight ago, imposing that would have caused uproar. Now it is seen as a success.
Plan or accidental? Who knows.
The effect of a 10% global tariff on goods, assuming it is reciprocated, will cause some pressure to close the USD capital account to avoid the differential tariff hit or loss of market share – as far as Sovereign Wealth Funds and the like have sufficient assets they can shift around to bring that about.
And as we all know ( well the clever ones at the bar ) once ‘abroad’ decides not to net save in your currency, the floating exchange rate moves to fill the gap.
What corporate treasury departments will do is anybody’s guess. If Apple are holding their USD cash pile in Ireland, what pressure will the EU bring upon Ireland to assist closing the EU’s USD capital account?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
The rhetoric is political and appeals to feeling not reason. The underlying message from the Trump crowd is: we want you buying US stuff, not US financial assets. A message that is mixed by them still issuing Treasuries at interest.
If Japan doesn’t want to buy US stuff because it’s not good enough, then the US administration intends they will end up receiving fewer US dollars for the quantity of output they do send to the US. It’ll then be up to Japan how to handle that internally, particularly as there isn’t an alternative untapped source of demand to drop back onto.
It’s going to be interesting to see how this all plays out dynamically.
Here:
https://billmitchell.org/blog/?p=62474

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Apr 11 2025 15:44 utc | 158

China continues to do business ignoring Trump and Anti-China EU sluts, “China to develop comprehensive strategic partnership with greater strategic focus, vitality with Spain: Xi”. Spain is one of the few EU nations doing well economically because it has access to good energy sources at low rates and is also part of the EU-dissenter group headed by Hungary.

Posted by: karlof1 | Apr 11 2025 15:50 utc | 159

@Passerby #127 “You could interpret this as: China will accept a US tariff of 20%.”
Likely the proper interpretation is that so little trade will happen with triple-digit tariffs that it’s not worth
responding to, and whatever little may be left has few viable alternatives anyway.
I expect random shortages and increases in lead times in the U.S. to be the main visible effect initially, rather than
large price increases, but when/if the price increases happen they’ll likely be very sticky.
As the barflies have observed in the Ukraine conflict, it’s easier for a government to mitigate a shortage of
mere money than a shortage of tangible goods and services.
To pick one small example, there is a company that manufactures wheelchairs domestically. He has parts custom made in
China, the China maker has the injection molds and they belong to the factory, not to the customer, since the factory
absorbed most of the cost (and it’s rather low in China, maybe <1/5 of that in the U.S. when the molds were made,
perhaps higher now). To vet new suppliers, have new tooling made in another country and place orders, waiting for
sea shipments and visas to visit factories and so on is a daunting task for a small manufacturer. All for nothing
if a deal is made where Chinese imports are treated fairly compared to alternatives. And those parts are not easily
substituted. Redesign for 3D printing at 20x the cost and poorer quality, perhaps affecting liability? Maybe.
I suspect they'll just draw down on their stocks of parts in the meantime.
Not shipping a part is a few dollars lost for Chinese companies making these random-looking bits in smallish
lots, and a few more lost by the shipping companies (many of which are foreign anyway). Not having the part
when needed means a $1,000 wheelchair not shipped and a person in need who doesn't get their wheelchair.
Being able to get the custom bits for an affordable up-front cost and part price is what allowed the company
to set up making these products in the first place (before that they were, and still are, in the business
of making metal parts for others).

Posted by: Billb | Apr 11 2025 16:00 utc | 160

@LosBanos # 139
“Whats left over they buy USA products with”.
Not really, what’s left over they buy some U.S.. products, but also use dollars to invest in tangible and intangible foreign assets
such as BRI and aid for poor countries. Such things are riskier than domestic infrastructure and such like (which they’re probably already
tapering down, with the exception of new energy projects– the rail network, airports and roads are pretty much ‘done’) since
they’re not on Chinese soil and subject to foreign machinations, but holding USD (which are metaphorically on foreign soil too) is
riskier yet.
The spending in other countries has immensely enriched African countries and ASEAN countries (the latter now account for more trade
with China than the U.S. does). I suspect it’s enriched them more efficiently than if the U.S. sent money directly because the Chinese
are not as sloppy with their spending and tend to put competent people on the ground. Of course the spending also results in influence
and soft power- which the U.S. intensely dislikes and attempts to counter by various means (especially covertly and through NGOs).

Posted by: Billb | Apr 11 2025 16:19 utc | 161

Apr 2, 2025 – GlobalTaiwan
Taiwan is Losing—Will It Fight Back?

In February, The Economist published the results of a stunning survey of China’s diplomatic aggression against Taiwan around the world. The results should serve as a wakeup call to Taipei: as of 2025, a decisive majority of internationally recognized sovereign states accept China’s fiction that Taiwan is a part of its territory. Of these, 70 fully endorse the Chinese regime’s threat of war to seize the island nation, including essentially every country in Africa. A majority of the “Global South” now subscribes to Beijing’s views—very much shredding the fiction that the Third World will be “non-aligned” in this century’s superpower competition. . . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 11 2025 16:34 utc | 162

VVP handshake with SCW lasted 09 seconds (s) and 45 deciseconds (ds).

Posted by: pepe | Apr 11 2025 16:43 utc | 163

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Apr 11 2025 15:05 utc | 151

What you described is the well known 18 year property cycle. Originally from Homer Hoyt’s 1933 dissertation, “One hundred years of land values in Chicago: The relationship of the growth of Chicago to the rise of its land values, 1830-1933”
You can search on that and read about the drivers but there is no equivalent 18 year demographic cycle. It’s mostly banks and speculation.

Posted by: Tel | Apr 11 2025 16:58 utc | 164

Larry Fink is “stunned” by tariff wars???? Tulsi Gabbard just discovered that voting machines can be hacked??? I filed and WON a lawsuit in 2006 over the use of voting machines which could be hacked. Right. I’m Santa Claus and I have a bridge you can have for free.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Apr 11 2025 17:07 utc | 165

Can anybody explain to me why Iran has ANY chance to win this conflict? I see none (without Russia and China) massivly helping them (which they will not)
Posted by: RygelThe16th | Apr 11 2025 14:50 utc | 145
All IRI has to do … is not lose. Then The Zionists lose.
This conflict is between Zionism and the Islamic Republic of Iran and the latter has the capability of hitting any spot is wishes in Occupied Palestine.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 11 2025 17:09 utc | 166

to Mary # 138. T-Rump delisted China Mobile during his first regime. He has form.

Posted by: Formerly Miss Lacy | Apr 11 2025 17:11 utc | 167

@LosBanos # 139
Posted by: Billb | Apr 11 2025 16:19 utc | 161
Another thing I vaguely remember reading is that China uses US$ to pay IMF debts for weaker ROW customer countries, re-issuing the loans yuans at low interest rates. Just another win-win way to get rid of dollars, increase business, create good will & help free the row from ruinous IMF austerity programs.

Posted by: Mary | Apr 11 2025 17:36 utc | 168

“Netanyahu’s ‘Gang of Destroyers’; “What else needs to happen for this hollow house of cards to collapse ?”
Conflicts Forum’s compilation tracking strategic developments in Israel, 11 April 2025

https://conflictsforum.substack.com/p/netanyahus-gang-of-destroyers-what
Only a small part is available to be read for free. Paid subscribers can read the full article. This is also the website where Alastair Crooke regulalrly publishes his articles.

Posted by: WMG | Apr 11 2025 17:38 utc | 169

From Twitter

Some stunning stats on China, the unrivalled industrial powerhouse:
🔹China = 2× US’ share of manufacturing in 2025
🔹4× US’ share of manufacturing by 2030 (UN)
🔹2× US’ power generation
🔹3x US’ car production
🔹13× US’ steel production
🔹20× US’ cement production
🔹200× US’ shipbuilding capability
China now produces roughly:
🔹50% of the world’s chemicals
🔹50% of the world’s steel
🔹50% of the world’s ships
🔹67% of the world’s EVs
🔹75% of the world’s batteries
🔹80% of the world’s consumer drones
🔹90% of the world’s solar panels
🔹90% of the world’s refined rare-earths

And 90% of US paranoia…

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 11 2025 17:47 utc | 170

Trump is the Saviour of the US
https://x.com/i/status/1910744558385627175
Remeber do not live above your means it will catch up on you

Posted by: Monty Taylor | Apr 11 2025 18:03 utc | 171

Thank you for your answers about USA/Isreal vs Iran.
However I continue to be unconvinced. Do you guys know how much firepower the US already has moved to the area?
My impression is that some ppl confuse their wishes with reality. I fear we will see 8th of May 25 (one day ofter deadline from Trump) not a liberation day.

Posted by: RygelThe16th | Apr 11 2025 18:03 utc | 172

The German oligarchy, like their US counterparts, have chosen the path of easy profits through massive government largesse for them and austerity for the rest. The result will be the same, a significant weakening in national power. China, Russia and Iran are happy to sit back and watch the Western oligarchs cripple their own nation’s power.
Friedrich Merz: Oligarch Tool
Everything Going To Plan For The German Oligarchy: Fascism is What Happens When Liberal “Democracy” Fails the Oligarchy
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Apr 10 2025 14:38 utc | 10
===============
I urge all barflies to make time to watch/listen to Glen Diessen’s latest podcast with Alex Krainer.
The latter makes some very trenchant observations concerning Trump/USA/Europe/Yeman/NS2 and the European elite’s last-ditch stand to retain their power and position via (1) narrative control/censoreship and (2)preparations for war on Russia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjiZUkayyCY
Per Krainer it is Europe that Trump aims to destroy. Others (Hudson, Luongo) have said the same thing, albeit looking through somewhat different lenses. His hypothesis re the bombing of Yemen fits aligns with this aim.
Per Krainer, European elites are actually flailing about trying to hang on to their centuries-old power, but the internet and populist politicians and restive populations who are not longer amenable to fighting stupid wars are creating the need for ever-more-Draconian crackdowns on speech and the political sphere and ever more absurd “official” lies to try to get the people back in line.

Posted by: Jane | Apr 11 2025 18:13 utc | 173

My impression is that some ppl confuse their wishes with reality. I fear we will see 8th of May 25 (one day ofter deadline from Trump) not a liberation day.
Posted by: RygelThe16th | Apr 11 2025 18:03 utc | 172
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I can’t blame the Americans; humility is not their strong suit.
Trump is discovering this, as with his tariff gambit, the world has rapidly changed.
I don’t want people to die, but the sooner America immolates itself on Iran, the sooner the genocides and evil can stop.
The issue is not firepower. It’s that Iran may crash the global economy by taking out all of the various Kingdom’s oil facilities.
Whether or not you are convinced is irrelevant. It is either going to happen or it will not.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 11 2025 18:17 utc | 174

@ Don Bacon | Apr 11 2025 16:34 utc | 162
The “Global Taiwan Institute”, eh? Nice to see it’s running scared 🤣🤣🤣

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 11 2025 18:21 utc | 175

Posted by: Jane | Apr 11 2025 18:13 utc | 173
###########
I like Sasha Krainer, but the more I listen to him, the more he relies on his preconceived ideas about the UK. He’s written about it for decades.
He may be right.
I have heard him be wrong about so many other things Trump-related that I take his conclusions with a grain of salt now.
He still thinks Trump is rational and a planner. That, to me, is a red flag. Trump is flailing over the tariffs. His personnel is (predictably) poor, his strategy is based upon the Chinese behaving like NY Property buyers, and not like a 5,000-year-old civilization with deep philosophical roots that is currently leading the world in manufacturing, science, space exploration, and economy.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 11 2025 18:26 utc | 176

“Trump doesn’t understand that the loss of Bagram may be just the beginning of American losses.”
One thing allowed the withdrawal of the USA from Afghanistan. Chinese provide precursors allowing ilicit Fentanyl production a synthetic replacing heroin that requires the organic precursor morphine in the illicit narcotic trade.
Im sure I would not accept the Taliban in my nation. I give credit where credit is due. Taliban has ended opium cultivation and taken 80% of the world heroin supply off line. Just like they did 6 months prior to the USA presence. And they have done this while being sanctioned and their foreign reserves frozen They desperately need the cash. One could argue the sanctions and foreign reserve freeze encourage a return to narcotic production.
The Taliban crashed heroin production just prior to the USA presence in 2001. It was a reduction in world illicit narcotics of a scale previously unseen. Junkies were shooting creamy peanut butter in the EU and USA. Heroin production rebounded to previous levels with USA presence in Afghanistan and rose every year to previously unseen levels. Now Afghanistan heroin production is even lower than 2001. Fentanyl has replaced heroin on the world market for illicit narcotics. Ground zero for open air drug markets like Kensington in Philadelphia or Camden in New Jersey were fueled with high purity Afghanistan heroin smuggled first to south of the border then into the USA through the open border by the cartels for 20 years. The transition to fentanyl started prior to the USA withdrawal and is now complete. Heroin is basically not available anymore in the USA.
Tolerance levels increase much faster with fentanyl than heroin and dont plateau like heroin. Junkies can not inject enough of it to not get sick after a while. Now tranquilizers are added to the street fent that have a synergistic effect to try and counter this. This combination has been responsible for the tissue destruction commonly referred to as flesh eating.This in itself is significant health risk requiring treatment similar to thermal or chemical burns. The combination along with dosage levels in single digit milligrams create increased radically fatalities. Doses of “trank” are sold in portions as low as three or four dollars worth. A $10 portion has a very high probability of killing a first time user if intervention does not occur as dosages distributed must satisfy the addicts tolerance levels. First time users are also more prone to use in private and that is a incredibly risky behavior with “trank”. Whats amazing is that the fatalities are at 100,000+ a year with the antidote narcan now administered by inhaler from untrained individuals. narcan is promoted as something everyone should carry in ground zero areas. Without that I would guess fatality’s would be over half a million a year in the USA. Overdose and narcan administration is just part of narcotic addiction now. The inhaled narcan has undoubtedly saved millions of lives as well as freed up paramedics. Administering narcan had pretty much become 99% of paramedic jobs when Narcan was injected. Often upon the addict recovering they would assault the paramedic for “killing their buzz”. After narcan is administered the junkie must immediately seek to source their next fix something they thought they had taken care of for a bit. They of course return to the same street vendor who sold them the overdose as quality is assured.
The idea that the USA could not persuade China to end production and sale of fentanyl precursors is not supported by the facts IMO. IMO for whatever motives this is a area of cooperation between the USA and China. The money ends up where money always ends up. Its like a salmon swimming home to the point of creation. Half a trillion a year is not peanuts even nowadays.
https://www.unodc.org/documents/wdr/WDR_2010/1.2_The_global_heroin_market.pdf

Posted by: LosBanos | Apr 11 2025 18:26 utc | 177

US President Donald Trump’s administration is planning a public relations campaign and financial incentives to persuade Greenlanders to join the United States, the New York Times has reported.
[ … ]
The Trump administration is also studying financial incentives for Greenlanders, including replacing the $600 million in subsidies that Denmark gives the island with annual payments of about $10,000 per person, the sources said.
_______
Enough to pay the annual Obamacare premium, if Obamacare even still exists by then…

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 11 2025 18:29 utc | 178

“When You Make Enemies Everywhere, You Can’t Sell Anything”
Courtesy of karlof1.
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I beg to differ. That’s when US diplomacy enters the game…the MIC and bomb, bomb, bomb…

Posted by: scc | Apr 11 2025 18:39 utc | 179

“Can anybody explain to me why Iran has ANY chance to win this conflict? I see none (without Russia and China) massivly helping them (which they will not)
Posted by: RygelThe16th | Apr 11 2025 14:50 utc | 145”
What we regard of war changed with the invention of nuclear weapons. War practice now is inherently a contradiction. Mutally assured destruction is a primary philosophty. This is a reality based philosophy that all parties now are destroyed in war. Economys are now completly interconnected. what kills one will kill all.
Iran as a large nationstate understands this well. They dont need to attack anyone to create their cessation. All they must do is cause cessation of energy transit through the strait of hormuz. The task of creating conditions for mutually assured destruction are much easier for Iran than many nations. There geophysical situartion acts like a extreme force multiplier for Iran in regard to mutually assured destruction and they have pt much effort into developing the tools that they will need to close hormuz most probably forever should a existential threat arise.
This is what “winning” is now. Successfully implementing mutually assured destruction. I dont understand why nuclear armed nations feel the need for delivery capability. Its a waste of resources. Why not just the bombs as destructive to the environment as possible and detonate them at a secure location within your nation? Biological weapons can achieve the same end and are much less destructive to the environment but thats beside the point.
Fundamentally mutually assured destruction is half suicide half genocide. Winning traditionally does not involve suicide but now it does. This is denied at the same time it is accepted as the most prevalent war practice. Thats why the nuclear weapons are delivered to a distant location that just happens to be the same world economy the same environment and the same planet as the originating nation.
Iran has simply done the logical thing. First of all they exploit a natural advantage always a good idea in war. Second they dont mess that much with delivery capability. It not required for “winning” which is implementing mutually assured destruction. Of course the most dramatic “winning” would be both of the opponent nations simultaneously implementing mutually assured destruction using all the techniques and preparations at their disposal.
The insanity and dislogic that is reality is that somehow these techniques and preparations provide continuance even though self cessation is 50% of their stated purpouse. Only visionary’s such as VVP have considered what war is and how we should regard it in a world that advocates self cessation as a acceptable “winning”.
Destruction has its own attraction and my perception is it is contrary to beauty. Until we do a true assessment about what we truly value the idea of “winning” is based on realities of the past not the present. In the present “winning” is not a continuance but a cessation.

Posted by: LosBanos | Apr 11 2025 18:59 utc | 180

The Yankee monsters, copying their Zio-Monster buddies in bombing hospitals in Yemen.
“In repeatedly targeting and destroying a cancer center in Yemen, the United States has carried on a long pattern of bombing hospitals.
On March 24, the United States carried out a premeditated attack on the Al Rasool Al-Azam Oncology Hospital in Saada, Yemen, turning it into rubble. At least two people were killed and 13 more injured.
This was not an isolated incident. Eight days previously, on March 16, Washington launched 13 separate airstrikes against the building, systematically destroying the hospital’s five blocks.
The Anti-Cancer Fund, a local government medical organization, described the events as a clear “war crime.”
“These attacks are not just airstrikes, but systematic executions, intended to eliminate hope and wipe out life amid a suffocating blockade,” it said in a statement.
The Yemeni Cancer Control Fund, a government body tasked with overseeing the country’s healthcare system, agreed, alleging that they were part of what it called:
A systematic American policy that has targeted the Yemeni people for years through bombings and a suffocating blockade, exacerbating the humanitarian crisis and spreading deadly diseases, including cancer, which has surged due to the use of internationally banned weapons since 2015.””
https://www.mintpressnews.com/us-bombing-hospitals-yemen-history-war-crimes/289368/

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 11 2025 19:14 utc | 181

They are very serious people in the money markets game. So convinced this is just around the corner they have just sold their real estate before it crashes.
Then wait to pick up a bargain when it bottoms.
Just thought I would share it with the bar.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Apr 11 2025 15:14 utc | 153
The squirrels scurry to hide their nuts. Under the log or under the rock? It is a consideration of deep importance.
Which will devalue faster? The dollar or equity denominated in dollars? This is the topic of supreme squirrel contemplation.

Posted by: LosBanos | Apr 11 2025 19:31 utc | 182

The king of England Charles III – went to Rome to express his concern about Climate Change – he had his own Bentley flown to Rome for the trip – meanwhile one of the Kardashians, flew from America to Europe – for a certain food then back again because they like it.
These b*stard are take the piss – meanwhile Joe Bloggs and his wife recycle to try and cut down on waste.
Lets not forget that Brazilin authorities – cutdown Christ knows how much ancient and prime forest in the Amazon, to build a road that will carry COP 30 officials to the conference.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 11 2025 19:35 utc | 183

Iranian nuclear scientists have succeeded in producing Rhenium-188, which cures skin cancer – it could come on the market that little bit cheaper than the current suppliers.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 11 2025 19:42 utc | 184

Kwasi Kwarteng, whose policy almost crashed the UK economy, is on Sky News analysing Trump’s policy which is on the brink of trashing the world economy.
He’s just been asked what he thinks Rachel Reeves should do.
Kwarteng is a deep state operative, and a one time Chair of Le Circle – so of course Sky news is going to ask him for his opinion.
https://wikispooks.com/wiki/Kwasi_Kwarteng

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 11 2025 19:45 utc | 185

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 11 2025 19:14 utc | 181
##########
Are there any meaningful differences between American Zionists and Israeli Zionists?
And is there any meaningful difference between a Zionist and a Nazi?

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 11 2025 20:23 utc | 186

@Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Apr 11 2025 15:05 utc | 151
Well, I never thought that I would see a post about WAP on this forum, Cardi B and Megan Thee Stallion will be happy. Some entertainment for the barflies in a time of utter chaos and collapse.
Cardi B – WAP (Lyrics) ft. Megan Thee Stallion
This song signifies a lot about the social degradation of the US in time of neoliberalism.

Posted by: Roger Boyd | Apr 11 2025 20:27 utc | 187

@Posted by: Chombywombo | Apr 11 2025 20:22 utc | 186
Trump, and the US oligarchy, are very much caught in a trap of their own making. One constructed over the past decades by their own greed, arrogance, and lack of foresight. Trump just replaced the shovel with a digging machine. This has been a long time coming, and Trump may very well end up as the Gorbachev of the US. My more detailed take on this:
Tariff Mania: Acceleration Toward The Abyss

Posted by: Roger Boyd | Apr 11 2025 20:33 utc | 188

@LoveDonbass | Apr 11 2025 20:23 utc | 187
NO. and NO.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 11 2025 20:43 utc | 189

@Posted by: Roger Boyd | Apr 11 2025 20:33 utc | 189
Just read it. Neat work.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Apr 11 2025 20:58 utc | 190

Posted by: denk | Apr 11 2025 4:18 utc | 99
“Invisible” access into the zone along the northern Chinese Border
was a major motivator for staying in Afghanistan.
FUBAR country to allow 3letter orgs to work undisturbed and unwatched.
( see similarities to Vietnam and neighboring countries? )

Posted by: MAKK | Apr 11 2025 21:04 utc | 191

Vehicle sales in China in 2024 were around 32 million, and in the US, around 16 million.
It is quite likely that the Chinese economy now is twice the size of the US economy.

Posted by: Simon | Apr 11 2025 21:04 utc | 192

USA chaos
https://youtu.be/kuv3jCdy_-U?si=89z_285gb6v9AwKb
China order
https://youtu.be/gtEROmL0NzQ?si=uTWF9h-vpU2o64Oc

Posted by: Simon | Apr 11 2025 21:19 utc | 193

@Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 11 2025 20:23 utc | 187
NO
YES, the Nazis were fascists who used the Jews, Slavs and other “lesser thans” as their focus of hatred and wanted to steal the land of the Soviet Union as their lebensraum. The Zionists use the Arabs/Moslems as their focus of hatred and want to steal the land of Palestine, Syria etc. as their lebensraum. Not much of a difference, but there are differences.

Posted by: Roger Boyd | Apr 11 2025 21:39 utc | 194

Are there any meaningful differences between American Zionists and Israeli Zionists?
And is there any meaningful difference between a Zionist and a Nazi?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 11 2025 20:23 utc | 187

The Zionist warmongers all have much in common with Hitler’s people – who also had the illusion that they were above the law.
Apparently the USA has become one nation under Zionism via AIPAC (honeytrap blackmail,bribes & extortion). Why else would the Trump Regime & nearly all US senators fall on their knees for Netanyahu & support the world’s first ever live broadcast GENOCIDE & plenty of other totally sinister crap, that no decent humane being in his right mind could ever support?
Has an insanely selfish and very clever Zionist ruling elite held the west’s keys to power for centuries? Secretly controlling the two most powerful & trusted institutions, the church & state with big lies, endless wars, & fear in order to keep the unquestioning masses people divided, dumbed down, upset & under their control? And totally oblivious to the fact that Zionist elites are the root of humanity’s dis-ease?

A political left that’s controlled by billionaires is fake ‘left’: hypocritical nazism.
Eric Zuesse Mar 31, 2025
https://substack.com/home/post/p-160300464?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
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The Dark Forces in Control of the Anglo-American-Zionist Empire Are the Source of the World Crisis.
By Richard C. Cook
Global Research, April 10, 2025
https://www.globalresearch.ca/anglo-american-zionist-empire-source-world-crisis/5877240
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Truth Is Antisemitism. Protest Is Terrorism. Dissent Is Russian Propaganda.
By Caitlin Johnstone
Global Research, April 06, 2025
https://www.globalresearch.ca/truth-antisemitism-protest-terrorism-dissent-russian-propaganda/5883658
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Trump’s “Additional Measures to Combat Antisemitism”: The U.S. Has Become a Two-Tier Country. Philip Giraldi
By Philip Giraldi, 3 April 2025
https://www.globalresearch.ca/united-states-two-tier-country/5883407
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The Zionist Destruction of American Higher Education
By Ron Unz, 1 April 2025
https://www.globalresearch.ca/zionist-destruction-american-higher-education/5883113
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From JFK to Donald Trump: How the USA Became Wedded to Zionist Israel
By Rick Sterling, 28 March 2025
https://www.globalresearch.ca/from-jfk-to-donald-trump-how-the-usa-became-wedded-to-zionist-israel/5882898
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Zionism today stands for aggression & for the use of force, & the keynote is permission to take what you want irrespective of other people or of their inalienable rights. -Alice Bailey
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Karma takes no account of custom; & the karma of cruelty is the most terrible of all…
-Krishnamurti
(Genocide & needless wars are very cruel) – FA & FO!

Posted by: TobyClear | Apr 11 2025 22:25 utc | 195

The stock market is nothing but a silly game for rich people. opines Aleph Null on another thread.
Let me add the great proverb – Play stupid games, win stupid prizes!

Posted by: persiflo | Apr 11 2025 22:47 utc | 196

There are commenters whose opinions I note saying China is dependent on a trade surplus as if it’s a “wealth effect” kind of like how grossly inflated real estate values serves in Anglo countries, their own domestic neoliberalized real estate problem, domestic stock market and others as points of weakness. No doubt their industries will suffer and I even doubt they’ll shift substantial percent of exports onto the rest of the world, which our media says is “dumping” because “overcapacity”, because some countries will also enact protectionist policies or succumb to US pressure. I don’t disagree with those issues but their analysis is made from a capitalist POV. Without getting into an argument of whether they’re “socialist” or not, their actions have shown they’re not wedded to maintaining rates of profit, or at least in the highest echelon of government i.e. Xi and his Politburo.
Just a few years ago, we’ve seen them purposefully kneecap and isolate their country and economy from the world for years because of a virus, their capitalists and profits be damned. They can point to Trump and once again kneecap their economy. Since nationalism is one of the strongest forms of idpol, many will accept and adapt with lower rates of profits. If they don’t, their government has shown they’ll put a foot on their neck. If they play their cards right, they could even use this trade war as an excuse to solve their creeping neoliberalism problem. Meanwhile, they still control the means of production, secured their hinterland from diverse moderate jihadis, have substitutes for US raw inputs from their BRICS partners, and they’ll lol at enforcing US IP.
On the other hand, what will US store shelves look like in a few months or a couple years? Can US’ postwar relic infrastructure even support massive reindustrialization? How will US workers cope in upcoming months or years?

Posted by: super imperialism | Apr 11 2025 22:52 utc | 197

persiflo | Apr 11 2025 22:47 utc | 197
Quoting: “The stock market is nothing but a silly game for rich people”.
Depends how rich and what you consider silly.
Exhibit A:+ Record profits for Wall Street
Charles Schwab -and others- in the oval orifice.
Gloating about the billions they made in a day of stock market turmoil.
https://x.com/moreperfectus/status/1910340290260463771?s=46
+ The other side of the coin^ (pun intended)
§| BlackRock’s Larry Fink says U.S. is very close to a recession and may be in one now https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/11/blackrocks-larry-fink-says-us-is-very-close-to-a-recession-and-may-be-in-one-now.html

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 11 2025 23:15 utc | 198

Insider: {🥴} Hours before China announced new tariffs, the Trump administration privately warned Beijing not to escalate and urged Xi to call Trump. Instead, China imposed new tariffs – with no call.
And
Chinese embassy in NYC posted a mean meme
https://x.com/ChineseEmbinUS/status/1910761118965936633
IMVHO that’ll trigger the Orange more than the new tariffs. Tweets and memes mean tweets are his turf

Posted by: Melaleuca | Apr 11 2025 23:22 utc | 199

Love Donbass @ 187:
Perhaps the most meaningful difference is that Zionists, Jewish and Christian alike, use current Jewish and Christian religion and in particular the Bible (specifically the Old Testament) to justify NATO / Israeli genocide of the Palestinians.
The Nazis didn’t have the advantage of established religion to justify and bolster their ideology, though as far as I know Hitler and his inner circle were Austrian / Bavaria nb Roman Catholics and both Protestant and Roman Catholic Churches in Germany did support the Nazis.
In many parts of central and eastern Europe, Nazism seemed to have been quite closely associated with Roman Catholicism, notwithstanding the fact that thousands of Polish Catholics were massacred by Ukrainian Nazi collaborators. (Before WW2, Poland ad been a fascist nation hell-bent on Polonising eastern Slavs in its territory and indeed the Organisation of Ukrainian Nationalists formed to resist this Polonisation.)
Croatia under the Ustasha regime was Nazi in all but name and operated the second-largest concentration camp in Europe (after Auschwitz-Birkenau) at Jasenovac. Thousands of Serbians and others died in this camp.
Some officials in Nazi Germany did have their own obsessions with pre-Christian beliefs, especially in Germanic pagan beliefs, and tried to use these as a basis for a new religion in Nazi Germany. In this endeavour, they partially succeeded in some ways, as many beliefs and symbols associated with Woden or Odin worship have been outlawed in parts of northern Europe as Nazi beliefs and symbols. In time, this outlawing of Germanic pagan symbols has ended up a self-fulfilling dilemma: how can young people in Scandinavia, Baltic nations and other parts of northern Europe learn about their past without encountering ideas and symbols used by neo-Nazi groups and ideologies?

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Apr 11 2025 23:22 utc | 200