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April 3, 2025
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2025-068

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The Tariff Follies have driven a stake though the heart of drilling for new oil.

U.S. oil & gas producers’ breakeven prices by oilfield 2024
Published by Statista Research Department, Apr 30, 2024
According to a 2024 survey, oil producers operating in the Permian region needed WTI oil prices to amount to a minimum of 62 U.S. dollars per barrel in order to profitably drill a new well. This compared to a minimum breakeven price of 38 U.S. dollars per barrel for existing wells. The monthly average WTI oil price ranged between 77 and 81 U.S. dollars per barrel around the time of the survey.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/748207/breakeven-prices-for-us-oil-producers-by-oilfield/

… and …

WTI Crude
61.60 -8.32%
May Contract
https://oilprice.com/oil-price-charts/#WTI-Crude

The margin is now negative.

Posted by: too scents | Apr 4 2025 14:10 utc | 101

Posted by: canuck | Apr 4 2025 13:44 utc | 98
@Posted by: canuck | Apr 4 2025 10:38 utc | 79
So predictably … wrong. The Western Empire collapsed in 476 AD (after splitting from the Eastern Roman Empire in 395 AD). Your example is SIX CENTURIES off, six centuries during which the oligarchy turned into a rapacious self-serving one. Its like quoting US GDP growth in the 1950s in an attempt to refute criticism of the neoliberalism of the past decades. Using an example from more than SIX CENTURIES before the collapse is truly laughable. Maybe you got confused between BC and AD …
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Apr 4 2025 13:50 utc | 99
We will do it one more time with footnotes;you said End of Empire stuff’ is happening in the US now but in 200 BC, six hundred years befoe the fall of the Roaman Empire so you are the one off by 600 years-you shpould reads more and reflecxt a insztead of typing like an adolescent in heat:
“Exactly, this is End of Empire stuff. The Roman oligarchs did this in Late Rome, sucking up all the domestic productive lands and extracting as much as they could from the vassals -”
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Apr 4 2025 5:39 utc | 71
You really don’t know your ancient history.
During Hannibal’s invasion of Italy in the early 200’s BC the aristocrats gave their gold and valuables to the Roman treasury to finance the fight against Hannibal.
In 202 BC the Roman consul Scipio- who be given the name ‘Africanus’ defeated Hannibal in Africa at the battle of Zama.
Traditionally in Rome, after such a conquest, the land conquered or arable land in Italy under the State’s ownership would be given to the soldiers as a reward for their service. Not this time- the aristocrats even though after giving their gold , silver et al to the treasury as a gift they demanded the State lands be given to them instead of the soldiers-and the State acceded to their request.
The Western Roman Republic then Empire lasted another 676 years (476 AD) after this first instance of aristocratic privilege.so your ‘idea’ that this is ‘End of Empire stuff’ is absurd; indeed, it is laughable..(1)
1. Economic and Social Shifts after the Second Punic War
The Second Punic War and the subsequent period saw significant changes in the Roman Republic.
Long Military Service: Roman soldiers, particularly small farmers, were away from their land for extended periods, making it difficult to maintain their farms.
Rise of Large Landholdings: The long absences and economic hardship led to the rise of large, slave-run plantations, replacing many smallholdings. Aristocrats forced the State to give them substantial lands instead of the soldiers.
Displacement of Small Farmers: This trend could have led to some soldiers returning to find their land in the hands of others, or being unable to afford to farm their land.”
This behaviour did not End the Roman Republic/Empire so your continual myopic assertion is both absurd and laughable.

Posted by: canuck | Apr 4 2025 14:18 utc | 102

The only reason MoA got Ukraine right is the same reason a broken clock is correct twice daily. Now, for those who are a bit more open minded and follow/observe other key data points to get a sense of national & global trends, these may be of interest to you:
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/04/jobs-report-march-2025-.html
https://www.reuters.com/business/world-economic-forum-founder-klaus-schwab-step-down-chair-trustees-ft-reports-2025-04-03/

Posted by: markw | Apr 4 2025 14:19 utc | 103

@Posted by: canuck | Apr 4 2025 13:44 utc | 98
Nietzsche was a classic clever low elite careerist climber, high as a kite many days due to the need of drugs to deal with his many ailments, who put forward a self-serving philosophy that only the great men (ubermensch) should rule society. Just like Plato’s philosopher kings. This of course played very well with the German higher elite who were happy to reward his obsequiousness. He attended private school where he was able to make the necessary connections with elite society and understand what was required of him to be allowed to rise in society. It is remarkable how many of the “great” philosophers were in fact such careerists, making up elite-serving theories to facilitate their social and economic progression; including many of the liberal philosophers such as Adam Smith, Ricardo, Bentham’s family was quite wealthy.
Until quite recently, philosophy, history and anthropology were dominated by the 1% (the ones who could afford not to work and spend time researching) and the courtiers of the 1% (who could get paid to spend time researching). Even Marx was only able to continue his research after being persecuted throughout Europe for his philosophical theories because of the wealth of Engels. I find it quite astonishing that people can view philosophy as independent of the social place and interests of the philosopher.
Losurdo did an excellent analysis of Nietzsche in his book “Nietzsche, The Aristocratic Rebel” identifying “the ruthless implications of Nietzsche’s anti-democratic thinking – his celebration of slavery, of war and colonial expansion, and eugenics” placing him within the context of “his many contemporary apologists”.

Posted by: Roger Boyd | Apr 4 2025 14:23 utc | 104

@Posted by: canuck | Apr 4 2025 14:18 utc | 102
When in hole, stop digging.

Posted by: Roger Boyd | Apr 4 2025 14:25 utc | 105

Kühlungsborn, Germany: the ruling party dissolves.

We hereby cancel our membership of the Christian Democratic Union of Germany (CDU) with immediate effect.
Our decision is based on a series of far-reaching political developments that we can no longer support. The debt brake is the DNA of the CDU. The current amendment to the Basic Law has effectively abolished it. This is not a “special fund”, but additional debt amounting to 1 trillion euros – with serious consequences for our country.
In addition, the inclusion of climate neutrality by 2045 in the Basic Law has definitely exceeded the limits for us. Political objectives of this scope do not belong in the constitution, but in the democratic debate.
We can already see the consequences: rising inflation, rising prices, a massively increasing interest burden and a huge burden that we are placing on the younger generation.
What Germany needs are far-reaching reforms. With tax revenues of almost 1 trillion euros, it is incomprehensible to us how these funds are currently being used. The disastrous economic development, partly caused by the policies of the current Minister of Economic Affairs Robert Habeck and the current government, puts Germany at a considerable competitive disadvantage compared to other European countries.
Another crucial point remains migration policy. The pull factors must be reduced to the absolute minimum. With the SPD as a coalition partner, we do not currently see a major, effective solution.
Similarly, the abolition of the heating law and a fundamental reorientation of the citizen’s income (up to and including the abolition of the citizen’s income) remain of great importance to us. These points were part of our political conviction and our election campaign – and were rewarded by the citizens.
We know that compromises are necessary in coalition negotiations. But we have to realize that the election winner, the CDU, is hardly or not at all reflected in the ongoing talks. This is dramatically demonstrated by both the exploratory talks to date and the amendments to the Basic Law.(cdu-kuehlungsborn.info)

“>https://www.cdu-kuehlungsborn.info/”>cdu-kuehlungsborn.info)

Posted by: Passerby | Apr 4 2025 14:28 utc | 106

Just Wow! if its true.
“China has begun mass production of nuclear batteries
The declared service life is 50 years without recharging. The battery does not emit radiation, and at the end of its life cycle it turns into ordinary copper.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 4 2025 14:42 utc | 107

A interesting point on Trump’s tariffs.
“Trump believes offence is the best defence. So he throws out tariff to force others to negotiate. If you give in, he roll back tariff. So essentially Trump can get concession for nothing. This is the art of the deal
Trump put 34% on China
Bessent said don’t ever retaliate or you will get counter retaliation
Lutnick said if China crack down on fentanyl, 20% tariff can be roll back
Text book Art of the Deal move
China saw through this and call the bluff
Counter 34% means no US export can be competitive in China, technically decoupling
What can Trump do? Current China import avg tariff is over 60% and if US can find replacement, they will. Those that still imported to US means there is no replacement. Trump can add that to 600%, result is the same
If Trump puts on counter tariff, China US decouple. Is US prepared?
If Trump gives in, the world sees that and will take a tough stand. The entire chess game is over.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 4 2025 14:52 utc | 108

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 4 2025 14:42 utc | 107
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Later that day, President Trump told Fox News’ Sean Hannity that the technology for nuclear batteries was stolen from America under Sleepy Joe Biden, and assured the country that under his administration work has commenced on “Golden” nuclear batteries that would be the best batteries ever.
The stock market soared on the news.
Good joke.
Everybody laugh.
Roll on snare drum.
Curtains.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 4 2025 14:58 utc | 109

Just Wow! if its true.
“China has begun mass production of nuclear batteries
The declared service life is 50 years without recharging. The battery does not emit radiation, and at the end of its life cycle it turns into ordinary copper.”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 4 2025 14:42 utc | 107
Isotopes for (very) small energy production is an old thing.
But half-life is a thing.
e.g. at 101 years half life, nickel 63 will probably still have 70%+ of “charge” at 50 years, barely useful, but still 70% radioactive nickel. That will still be 25% @ 200 years so millennia before it turns to “pure copper” -63
Second thing is 100 MICRO watts
Puny energy is puny.
A us company is also on the same page, infinity power.
Nothing particularly interesting nor new.

Posted by: Newbie | Apr 4 2025 15:01 utc | 110

When you sanction yourself its called “tariffs”.

Posted by: LosBanos | Apr 4 2025 15:02 utc | 111

The Ukrainian, Neo-Nazi dictator – Zelensky – spending some of his stolen cash.
“In case you were wondering how your tax dollars are being spent – Zelensky just purchased a 51% stake in one of the biggest platinum mining companies in South Africa – Northam Platinum.
The price is believed to be around $1.6B. Zelensky will be visiting South Africa on April 10th.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 4 2025 15:02 utc | 112

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 4 2025 14:42 utc | 107
Yup Duracell bunny is f****d!
Seriously though stuff like this – unrestrained innovation, engineering and mass manufacturing that will dramatically improve the lives of every human wherever they live meaning they will grown kids securely and educate them properly means that the IP/Patent controlling Collective Wests imperial powers are neutered.
The legacy industries gooses are cooked. And they will naturally aim to import such items now unable to transition fast enough to ‘catch up’. Besides from there being no need when China can do it for the whole world anyway. The whole ‘lae’ revolution as life changing as motors replacing horses, law altitude economy is going to make the world smaller again but more egalitarian.
Which mightily pisses of the ages old ziofascist supremacists dynastic rule and plans of a Golden Billion and the old ‘White mans burden’ self delusion.
The slaves have revolted and won.
Meaning the only way to retain control is to do a ‘China’ when they withdrew from the world centuries ago – having realised the Middle Kingdom was not the centre of the Universe!
Thus keeping their populations inward facing – which led to a total disaster for them and the world as the Europeans were marshalled to take over the world through seafaring without the mighty Chinese Navy ruling the waves.
It’s been on the cards for most of this century and the lost war in Ukraine and last chance gasp of expansion and extermination in the Levant will soon fail. Then the world will be born anew. Except for the crazy billion us in the moribund west; who are doomed to live behind our wall in the Garden, thinking we are the best, still!

Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 4 2025 15:02 utc | 113

the technology for nuclear batteries
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 4 2025 14:58 utc | 109

If nuclear batteries were feasible biological examples would be found in living organisms.

Posted by: too scents | Apr 4 2025 15:03 utc | 114

Re: nuclear batteries

EEVblog 1595 – 50 Year Chinese Nuclear Diamond Battery!
January 28, 2024
A Chinese startup has developed a tiny 50 year life diamond nuclear battery that’s going to change the world! Yeah, nah. Same old betavoltaic, same old limitations, and same old startup marketing hype.
Lot’sa links inside ==> https://www.eevblog.com/2024/01/28/eevblog-1595-50-year-chinese-nuclear-diamond-battery/

Posted by: too scents | Apr 4 2025 15:08 utc | 115

Come on people, prove me wrong. Demonstrate you’re capable of taking a broader view; discard the crutch of rote anti-Americanism.
https://x.com/morningdwnld/status/1908163798084858349
PS This isn’t cheerleadering, rather an example of evaluating different data points. We still lost in Ukraine, Russia still exists, now stronger than ever. We still need to move forward on Greenland and Canada. Nothing is set nor settled, there are many different theaters in play. But to blindly stick by a losing proposition repeating the same old tired BS regardless of context or understanding isn’t a good look.

Posted by: markw | Apr 4 2025 15:09 utc | 116

#107 “China has begun mass production of nuclear batteries”
Betavoltaic cells have very few real-life applications. Yes, they last half a human lifetime but the power output is uW. Another breathless Popular Science type headline that mischaracterizes a very specialized device. What we now call ‘clickbait’ but it’s been around forever. Then you never hear of the device again, 999 times out of 1000. I blame the publications.

Posted by: Billb | Apr 4 2025 15:19 utc | 117

Fascinating to see Washington not realize that only 2.7% of Chinese GDP is dependent on exports to USA.

Posted by: Exile | Apr 4 2025 15:19 utc | 118

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 4 2025 12:09 utc | 89 f
I don’t know Heidegger, NC,but your post takes me back to my own familiar version of what you are explaining here, which is Dostoievski’s darkly prophetic “The Devils”, known in the west as “The Possessed”. The hero of this novel, Stepan Trofimovitch, is an elderly scholar and liberal, Dostoievski’s version of Don Quixote.
The narrator throughout is very fond of this somewhat outdated figure – liberalism having flowered in Stepan’s youth but very much out of fashion and rather made fun of in his old age when we encounter him. There is also a darkly philosophical character who has spent time in America, so your twinship loiters on the horizon. This character is key to an unfolding, subversive plot to overturn society.
It seems to me that Dostoievski sees liberalism as having evolved out of the Russian need for romantic idealism following on after religious fervour has become passe’. This still intensely exists in the character of the local holy man, Bishop Tikhon and is juxtaposed against the darkest character, Stavrogin, in the central dialogue between the two. (This chapter was considered too shocking in Dostoievski’s lifetime so was never published then.) Interestingly, Stepan doesn’t encounter the bishop himself, though he is intimately familiar with Stavrogin. The main question of the novel revolves around that out-of-date liberalism lovingly portrayed with all its weaknesses and ultimate strengths when put to the test, unfocused, then crystal clear.
“Dear was that man to me” says the narrator on beholding Stepan at his moment of humiliation by the raucous partying neocons.(Of course, they are not called that, but we can do so.) I am intrigued that for us, Catherine the Great, who embraced liberalism, figures prominently today as the foundress of Odessa, the linchpin in the crisis that is Ukraine. Her statue has been uprooted and destroyed, a humiliation of its own on a national scale. Russians would still feel this.

Posted by: juliania | Apr 4 2025 15:22 utc | 119

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 4 2025 14:52 utc | 108
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The chess game was over when South Korea, Japan, and China teamed up.
That was a sign of organized defiance that everyone noticed worldwide.
EU response is coming on the 7th. It may be trivial but it will be a signal of how people regard Trump’s approach.
A bully can be terrifying but once you have seen him knocked down the aura of fear fades.
My continuing concern is what Trump does once everyone tunes him out. He’s incapable of backing down and doesn’t do win-win deals.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 4 2025 15:25 utc | 120

“The Tariff Follies have driven a stake though the heart of drilling for new oil.
U.S. oil & gas producers’ breakeven prices by oilfield 2024
Published by Statista Research Department, Apr 30, 2024”
What does pricing mean if the shelves are empty and there is nothing to “buy”?
Low price kills oil extraction because it is not profitable and is a loss.
High price kills oil extraction because it is not affordable and demand tanks.
Russia was trading affordable energy to the EU for euro tokens that allowed its socialist standard of living.
They ended that.
China was trading its manufactured goods to the USA for dollar tokens that allowed its quasi socialist standard of living.
They ended that
The”tarrifs” do exactly what “covid” did.
Supply chains are broken and trade ceases.
War lite now rubble free and Greta approved.

Posted by: LosBanos | Apr 4 2025 15:32 utc | 121

“anti-Americanism”

Anti-Americanism is Joe Caligula Biden and Donald Likud Trump
Americanism is Thomas Massie, the last free man in Washington DC
When the power of Washington DC declines, that day Americans will regain their freedom.

Posted by: Simon | Apr 4 2025 15:33 utc | 122

Is it controlled demolition again?
In the EU the prices have been doubled since covid. Now the turn of the US.
To come to single governance? minimal wage?

Posted by: Tom | Apr 4 2025 15:43 utc | 123

I am not familiar that familiar with Heidegger, but Nietzsche was certainly not a Fascist; kindly please educate yourself:
Posted by: canuck | Apr 4 2025 13:44 utc | 98

Please, stop letting ChatGPT think and research on your behalf, and stop trying to pass off ChatGPT responses as your own. Are you trying very hard to emulate your idol Trump who used ChatGPT to formulate his tariff plans?
The deep irony here is that those ChatGPT points you listed as arguments against Nietzsche being fascistic are actually evidence of Nietzsche being fascistic.
It is you who needs self-education. Roger Boyd already recommended an excellent book by Losurdo. If reading an entire book sounds too daunting for you, Georg Lukacs penned an article critical of Nietzsche in the midst of the anti-fascist war, in 1943.
Here is an excerpt:

https://www.marxists.org/archive/lukacs/works/nietzsche/ch04.htm
What does the transformation of people demanded by Nietzsche consist of? Especially of a new picture of the future. Nietzsche believed that the world was growing beyond the narrow nationalism and provincialism of his time, that the age of great politics and great wars was beginning, an age which he considered Bismarck unfit to lead. From a social point of view he develops the following image of the coming lords of the earth: “The sight of the present European gives me a lot of hope: a daring ruling race is forming there, on the breadth of an extremely intelligent herd mass.” The task of philosophy is now to create a morality “with the intention of breeding a ruling caste – the future masters of the earth.” To bring about this state of affairs requires “a new terrorism”.
Let us now consider that morality which, according to Nietzsche, is necessary for breeding such a master race. In the beginning there is a renewed barbarization of the instincts: “A lordly race can only grow from terrible and violent beginnings. Problem: where are the barbarians of the twentieth century? Apparently they will only become visible and consolidate after tremendous social crises.” Here Nietzsche is clearly a prophet of Hitlerism.
The ideal of the barbarization of human instincts runs as a guide through Nietzsche’s entire development. We can already see it in his early works, as a supposedly original struggle for a deeper understanding of antiquity. The struggle against the academic conventions in the ancient conception, which is justified in details, is the bait for the dissatisfied intelligentsia; the essential content is the discovery of barbarism as the real guiding principle of antiquity. Nietzsche later extended this philosophy of history to the Renaissance, to France in the seventeenth century. He saw models everywhere for the longed-for, coming barbarian type of the future.
According to Nietzsche, barbarism stands at the beginning of every culture, and according to his ideal, barbarism is the conclusion, the culmination of cultural development. In his concluding main work he defines the ideal of the superman as follows: “Man is the monster and super-animal; the higher man is the inhuman and superman: that is how they belong together. With every growth of man in size and height, he also grows in the deep and terrible: one should not want the one without the other – or rather: the more thoroughly one wants the one, the more thoroughly one achieves the other.”
Above all, it is necessary to overcome the (Christian-democratic) conscience. Conscience, according to Nietzsche, is the introverted cruelty of the original barbarians, an inversion that is the destructive work of Christianity and democracy. The task of the new morality consists above all in freeing man in this respect, in freeing him from his conscience, in having his original cruelty turn outwards again. Since Nietzsche, as we have seen, sees biological basic facts in oppression and exploitation, his morality wants to eliminate everything that prevents the healthy natural instincts of man from being lived out. “I fight against the thought that egoism is harmful and reprehensible: I want to create a good conscience for egoism.” The pessimism of strength, the overcoming of decadence from within, is therefore an affirmation of the animal in man: “The animality no longer terrifies; a witty and happy arrogance in favor of the animal in man is the most triumphant form of spirituality at such times.”
Once one has clearly seen these basic principles of the Nietzschean moral and social philosophy, one finds it self-evident that he became the enthusiastic prophet of the militarism of the imperialist period. We have already noted that he regards the militarization of the labor relationship as an ideal. It is only logical that he himself enthusiastically endorses militarism. “I am pleased with the military development of Europe … The barbarian is affirmed in each of us, even the wild animal.” And in complete agreement with his basic views, Nietzsche therefore glorifies the imperialist military state, the growth of militaristic Prussia into the one he dreamed of Coming time of the ords of the Earth: “The maintenance of the military state is the very last resort, the great tradition, whether it be taken up or maintained, with regard to the supreme type of man, the strong type. And all concepts that enmity and perpetuate the rank distance of the states, may then appear sanctioned (e.g. nationalism, protective tariffs).” Nietzsche, who, as we have seen, generally despised provincialism and nationalism, approves of the latter provided that it becomes the organ of imperialist militarism, of imperialist struggles for world domination, of imperialist wars.
Of course, Nietzschean teaching is not identical with the official ideology of Hitlerism. It cannot be because Nietzsche stopped thinking on the eve of imperialism: for him the age of imperialist barbarism is still a dream of the future, while fascist ideology arose as a repulsive product of decay of developed imperialism. This difference in periods also determines the difference in intellectual and aesthetic level. Nietzsche is a man of broad and varied culture, in contrast to the ignorance of Hitler or Goering, the boastful half-education of a Rosenberg or Goebbels; For all his mannerisms, he is a witty and important stylist who – albeit often problematically – has nevertheless worked creatively in language, in contrast to the barbarization and rape of the German language under Hitlerian tyranny. In addition, one could also point out many individual deviations. Nietzsche always despised anti-Semitism.
Despite all these conceptual, aesthetic, and moral differences, Rosenberg rightly named Nietzsche the ancestor of German fascism. For Nietzsche carried the glorification of barbarism into German philosophy, and the more justly one assesses his intellectual abilities, his cultural-critical work, the more clearly one must see that the change he made created the basis for that reactionary development in German ideology, from which fascism then drew its intellectual arsenal.

Denying that Nazism is the ideological successor of Nietzsche is the same as denying that NATO is an organization that continued the Nazis’ fight against socialism and communism.

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Apr 4 2025 15:47 utc | 124

“Anti-Americanism is Joe Caligula Biden and Donald Likud Trump
Americanism is Thomas Massie, the last free man in Washington DC
When the power of Washington DC declines, that day Americans will regain their freedom.
Posted by: Simon | Apr 4 2025 15:33 utc | 122”
Straight up
Unfortunately many do not have that opinion.
When a bump in the road is hit ‘the goverment has to do something’.
Trump is wrapping it around a tree.
Trump the neoliberals best fake nemesis ever.
Why do you think they are so quiet?
Church mouses they are.
The Trump legacy will live forever as the neoliberal example that their way is the only way.
The example is being set and the neoliberals smile inwardly.
What creature lurks in the shadows as our next master?

Posted by: LosBanos | Apr 4 2025 15:50 utc | 125

@119 Julianna
Reconciliation with liberalism is a big question. I am not sure that what Russia is embodying now, for example, is indeed a liberal force vanquishing fascism that has taken root in the west. Many here are hoping it is.
I do think many here unconsciously believe this: that the advancement of liberalism since the enlightenment is generally a force for good that has merit and should be saved. But I think that peak-liberalism still can not answer the call to certain needs of the human spirit. That the march of technology leads to an overall deflation in man’s orientation to philosophy.
In the liberal mind, philosophy is just a tool, a science among many, a survey of popular thinkers. That doesn’t cut the mustard and will eventually lead the people to a crisis of meaning.
As always your posts warrant a second reading. Thx for the effort!

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 4 2025 15:55 utc | 126

US manufacturing was outsourced because shareholders wanted the price of their stock to go up.
Will capital investment in US manufacturing make the stock price rise now with tariffs in place?
It will not. It will tank stock price perhaps more so that the economy declines with Chinese manufactured goods being removed.
No motive for capital investment in US manufacturing has been created.
The basis for decisions is the stock price.
Investors will flee the manufacturing sector and they will not return until tariffs are removed on China in 3.5 years.

Posted by: LosBanos | Apr 4 2025 16:02 utc | 127

@Simon | Apr 4 2025 15:33 utc. Simon: succinct and accurate.
For non-U.S. Rest-of-World barflies: would you like to learn what a “highly-regarded among the little people” citizen of the U.S. looks like? Check out Thomas Massie.
Here’s a 35-min utube vid about Massie, his politics, education, career, family and his KY homestead. The man can hit the ball. He’s also U.S. congressman, which is almost incomprehensible, given how good he is, and how wildly out-of-step he is with the rest of Congress.
In another vid, Massie is interviewed by Carlson Tucker, and Massie tells the story about how AIPAC controls Congress, and tangentially how AIPAC uses Christian evangelism to exert pressure on behalf of Israel.
This is probably the best, short-form primer on how Israel exerts political influence over the U.S. that I’ve seen. 10 mins vid.
There are a lot of people here in the U.S. that like Thomas Massie.

Posted by: Tom Pfotzer | Apr 4 2025 16:06 utc | 128

@Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 4 2025 14:52 utc | 108
Yep, China has worked very hard and long to get to the point where it can call Trump’s bluff. The alignment between South Korea, Japan and China on this just adds to the smack in the face. The US exports to China are predominantly commodities that can be sourced from other nations (numbers for 2023):
– Oil & Gas & Coal US$18.7 billion
– Soybeans US$18.5 billion
– Pharma and Medicines US$11.3 billion (China has a very large and growing pharma sector)
– Semiconductors and Components US$6.8 billion (probably already lower and China wants to get rid of these anyway)
– Planes US$6.8 billion (just buy Airbus and from COMAC etc.)
– Navigational and Measurement Instruments US$6.8 billion
– Basic Chemicals US$6.5 billion
– Motor Vehicles & Parts US$7.8 billion (US brand car imports will be easily replaced by domestic brands)
– Resins & Synthetic Fibres US$5.5 billion
– Industrial Machinery US$5 billion (China is the leading producer of industrial machinery)
– Scrap and non-ferrous metals US$4.8 billion
– Meat Products US$4.5 billion
– Medical Equipment & Supplies US$3.6 billion
– Other Food US$3.5 billion
– Misc. General Purpose Machinery US$2.6 billion
– Pulp and Paperboard US$2.1 billion
So much much more pain for the US agri and animal husbandry businesses, pain for GM and Ford, pain for the pharma and medical supplies sector, pain for the energy and chemicals sector, pain for Boeing. And China is more than capable of replacing pretty much all of the above with alternative supply sources from abroad and at home. China has also placed export controls on more critical minerals as well to increase the pain.
As the vast majority of Chinese manufactured exports to the US are by US corporations, there will also be a significant profit hit there. Then there is the reputational damage to all the US brands in China, such as McDonalds, Starbucks and Apple which will further reduce US corporate profits.
China can disconnect from imports from the US, while the US can only partially disconnect (at higher prices than pre-tariff) from Chinese imports while having to eat all the tariffs for the imports that it cannot disconnect from either in the short or medium term. That’s stagflationary for the US. And that’s without the huge supply chain dislocations from the new tariffs on places like Vietnam.

Posted by: Roger Boyd | Apr 4 2025 16:23 utc | 129

What is the tariff on KSA?
Zero
Manufactured goods are exactly the same as oil.
Manufactured goods are embodied affordable energy.
The question is who “earns a living” transforming affordable energy into manufactured goods.
The question is resolved around cost skills and facilitation.
The question was resolved based on currency distortion.
The currency distortion is present because of reserve currency status.
Nixon should have fixed this in 73.
Who fixed USA manufacturing?
Japan.. Japan blew the doors off manufacturing. Japan set the standard in manufacturing for the whole world. Japan taught Germany too. Japan innovated. China is running with the ball but Japan brought it to the 10 yard line. USA could have run the ball but handed it to China and went into the war and money creation business. Nixon could have not reconciled with China. Nixon could have not gone into the war and money creation business. But Japan had not fixed USA manufacturing yet.
None of it could have happened without debt. None of it could have happened without the affordable energy token. But the affordable energy token is a ponzi. Now he music stops and where the manifestation of where the affordable energy token created facilitation are physically located where they are.

Posted by: LosBanos | Apr 4 2025 16:37 utc | 130

“So much much more pain for the US agri and animal husbandry businesses, pain for GM and Ford, pain for the pharma and medical supplies sector, pain for the energy and chemicals sector, pain for Boeing. And China is more than capable of replacing pretty much all of the above with alternative supply sources from abroad and at home. China has also placed export controls on more critical minerals as well to increase the pain.”
Nice post. Didnt copy all of it.
Yes pain accompanies cessation but it is a indicator not a causal. Affordability drives the nails on this coffin.

Posted by: LosBanos | Apr 4 2025 16:52 utc | 131

Posted by: LosBanos | Apr 4 2025 15:02 utc | 111 Sorry, no, tariffs are a form of sales tax. Directly blocking imports is sanctioning yourself. Jefferson tried this with the Embargo Act/Non-Intercourse Act. Like Trump, Jefferson was deluded about the economic power of America. Jefferson’s failed policies didn’t prevent the War of 1812, helped it be a de facto tactical loss. In the very long run, there was some increased industrial production from necessity, but as the joke has it, at what price? The greatest periods of US industrialization did not occur until much later, nor were they fostered by other Jeffersonian policies like low revenue tariffs, large expensive sale of public lands for maximum revenue, minimal government that eschewed internal improvements, balanced government budgets no matter what. (It was Madison who was stuck with the war spending.)

Posted by: steven t johnson | Apr 4 2025 17:11 utc | 132

@104 Roger
Your post proves to me, not even being a Nietzsche scholar, that he is the most misquoted, misappropriated, and misunderstood thinker that ever had the misfortune of being a genius.
You are a good writer and thinker. You could probably do much better than this. But I will take a look at your book reference for the argument.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 4 2025 17:17 utc | 133

Trump’s American Rebuild
As Trump bets on tariffs to jumpstart a U.S. manufacturing comeback, the question looms: can America reindustrialize without reinventing the global economy and capping trade imbalances?
https://www.beyondwasteland.net/p/trumps-american-rebuild

Posted by: KevinB | Apr 4 2025 17:28 utc | 134

Trump’s TikToc deal didn’t close.

Trump Extends TikTok Deadline 75 Days to Save App in US
President Donald Trump said he has decided to extend the deadline for Chinese firm ByteDance Ltd. to divest TikTok’s US operations and give his administration more time to finalize a plan to keep the popular app running in the the country.
Trump said he will give Beijing-based ByteDance an additional 75 days to agree to a deal that would sell TikTok’s US operations to an American buyer and avoid a ban that was set to take effect as soon as this weekend.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-04-04/trump-extends-tiktok-deadline-75-days-for-deal-to-save-app-in-us?

Deadlines are for extending in Dealsland.

Posted by: too scents | Apr 4 2025 17:49 utc | 135

Posted by: too scents | Apr 4 2025 17:49 utc | 135
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Trump has fired up hyper-nationalism in the already very nationalistic China, they will never allow him to get TikTok.
They can’t. I would be an enormous loss of face for them.
Besides, the last time the Zionists tried to ban TikTok, thousands of Americans discovered (via Xiaohongshu aka Red Note) that China has cheap education, housing, and national healthcare—amazing self-own by the Congress.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 4 2025 19:00 utc | 136

China is ready for the drone age
26-second video
https://x.com/ShangguanJiewen/status/1908233112058028189
It’s like something out of the “Ender’s Game” movie.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 4 2025 19:02 utc | 137

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 4 2025 19:02 utc | 137
I read somewhere (forgot where) that 84,000 drones were involved. Now imagine if they were armed. What could they do to a US fleet? How would a fleet defend against such? I think the Pentagon should just call it a day.

Posted by: horseguards | Apr 4 2025 19:42 utc | 138

Posted by: horseguards | Apr 4 2025 19:42 utc | 138
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Only 5% need to have a warhead. Defenses wouldn’t know which to target if it were done correctly.
“Flooding the zone” is my favorite tactic everywhere possible.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 4 2025 19:53 utc | 139

Juan Moment | Apr 4 2025 12:11 utc | 90
“In Germany, for example, only those self-employed with no employees, or working for only one client, are obliged to pay into the government pension system.”
Minor point, it’s not an OR in this code, it’s an AND. Both conditions have to be met. Self-employed with no employees and working for only one client, you have to pay into the government pension scheme.
Also, if your ‘trade’ or line of business is that of a tradesperson or insurance broker, typically those won’t be compelled to use the government pension scheme and social security. There are indeed many self-employed types of job for which the law makes it compulsory to pay for and use government pension and social security, like midwives, artists, journalists and fishermen (see). What the rationale behind this selection is, I don’t know. Is it fair? I don’t know. But on the other hand, there are scores of self-employed professions that are off the hook. They are absolutely free to use the common state-run schemes, or shun the state and take out private social security insurance, or have no social security insurance and pension scheme at all (and thus be a direct payer, whatever your bill is). Doctors, lawyers, accountants, traders or dealers for whatever, life coaches, psychotherapists, physiotherapists, pharmacists, franchisees etc etc. And that is a baked-in problem for the system that we have, because many in those middle-class professions make a lot of cash.

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Apr 4 2025 19:58 utc | 140

“Trump’s American Rebuild
As Trump bets on tariffs to jumpstart a U.S. manufacturing comeback, the question looms: can America reindustrialize without reinventing the global economy and capping trade imbalances?
https://www.beyondwasteland.net/p/trumps-american-rebuild
Posted by: KevinB | Apr 4 2025 17:28 utc | 134″
Various things must be present to compete in manufacturing. USA certainly has the skill and culture to manufacture.
The bugaboo is the reserve currency status. This results in some things. The USA not only runs budget deficits it MUST to provide the world with currency for trade. In regard to manufacturing reserve currency means the value of the dollar is based on its universal credit value not its value to buy goods and services in the USA. This means it is not possible for USA products to be competitive even if they had to compete which they dont.
To some extent the tarrifs work toward the end of reserve currency status. The price to use US dollars is trading manufactured products and or resources for dollars created from promises. Now China must pony up 35% more to get those dollars. As usual the threat is that isolation from the dollar and financial system is unthinkable. Can China do without those dollars? We will find out. Will that be war? We will find out.
Talking about the trade deficit is a deliberate deception. If you dont want a trade deficit give up reserve currency status and let the dollars value be based on the goods and services it buys like every other nation. No one is talking about that because the USA standard of living is completely dependent on the dollars high value now. Every politician is implicitly part of the practice of creating money. They became politicians to wield the power of created money. To think the politicians capable of the integrity it requires to asses the situation is delusional. They can no more refute created money than a fish can refute water.
For the most part most Americans are unwilling to give up the power of created money and the standard of living it creates. This might be different if they were actually aware of the cascading problems created money poses. The accessing of created money has been the key method of survival. It is considered a skill. Americans were more aware of the Ponzi nature of created money in the past and the issue was key in several elections most notable Alexander Hamiltons. The value of the dollar is regarded as a point of patriotic pride now to be defended. The contradiction is that the high value of the dollar is what has destroyed American manufacturing also a point of patriotic pride.
The tariffs are a bizaare attempt to try and find compatibility between these two apposing ideas about what is patriotic without mentioning the sacred elephant in the room the reserve currency status. The USA can not be competitive in manufacturing with reserve currency status and a organic economy. The tarrif solution works against itself. It lowers the value of other currency’s when the problem is they are already radically artificially low compared to the dollar.
Since accessing created money is regarded as a valued skill set and is in fact the primary skill set to voluntarily forsake reserve currency status means the citizens must compete with other nations. Who wants that? No one. Not the politicians. Not the people. Look at Trump and Biden could there possibly be better examples? Peas in a pod. People flock to the USA to get the privilege of not competing. And they are ecstatic to have that privilege! Yes of course they hate the culture. Same for the EU. But at least they are aware of the privileged they have been granted.
The way the ponzi ends is collapse in one form or another. This doesnt have to be. There could be a transition but the refusal to accept a lowered standard of living and to render skill sets of no value means the way in which the reality will manifest will fit the definition of collapse.
I suspect that those who call the shots know very well a change is in the works. What Trump is doing means radically less trade. No motive for investing capital in the USA has been created. Au contraire. Many many realities dictate that. The total and mistaken belief in supply and demand as a absolute while ignoring true realities such as affordability is one of the bizarre beliefs involved in this tariff scheme. The reality is it will radically reduce consumption. Just like Covid. I suspect what we are witnessing is a preparation for a future where reserve currency status is gone but organic economy s that allow consumption are not present either. This tariff scheme while it does nicely play to established false beliefs ultimately serves one very simple and apparent goal. Radically less consumption.
If one really believes in Justice it must be blind. IMO to hold exceptional beliefs means sooner or late you will experience injustice.

Posted by: LosBanos | Apr 4 2025 20:38 utc | 141

I do not have an agenda, because I’m a person who are destroyed by the terrible instance of cancer. It’s a mess to see so hypocritical old men.

Posted by: Malenkov | Apr 4 2025 20:43 utc | 142

It’s evident: money.
Give money because to return to the the time when we were honest people.
Nah, money

Posted by: Malenkov | Apr 4 2025 20:49 utc | 143

I see Tucker continuing to shill for the regime by interviewing Treasury Secretary Bessent, after doing Steve Witkoff and USTR Robert Lighthizer.
Hilarious. I have been casually tracking the Deep State’s attempts to create regime forms of Joe Rogan to capture the podcast space.
I believe that Tucker is a Patriot, but he only presents the Trump side of every argument. When he interviewed the Qatari leader in an obvious whitewashing, I was disgusted.
Qatar, while tiny, is one of the worst regimes on the planet, IMO.
It would really be a shame if they caught a dozen Iranian hypersonics with their airfields if a conflict kicks off.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 4 2025 20:53 utc | 144

Poor little Bernard.
Poor little Malenkov.
You have 40,000 $, for year, without taxes.
What a mess, Love.
Must be an idiot if you dont know how a poor old man, can exist.

Posted by: Malenkov | Apr 4 2025 20:54 utc | 145

The problem is that you are a hypocritical bitch. Not all of you. There are, certainly, men and women who are truthful.
And, I see beyond the structure. Because I was living that mess. All the people is free because must be individual and we have a great option: be honest and be free:

Posted by: Malenkov | Apr 4 2025 21:08 utc | 146

I see that a certain schizophrenic has burned through so many usernames that he’s now appropriating mine. Dubious honor for sure, but what the heck.

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 4 2025 22:31 utc | 147

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 4 2025 22:31 utc | 147
i knew it wasnt you. Knew who it was by the second post.
next up: love and dead grandmothers.

Posted by: UWDude | Apr 4 2025 23:29 utc | 148

next up: love and dead grandmothers.
Posted by: UWDude | Apr 4 2025 23:29 utc | 148
_______
…and all of his favorite songs!

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 4 2025 23:40 utc | 149

[jukebox] Swans – Love will Save You

Posted by: persiflo | Apr 4 2025 23:51 utc | 150

[much better jukebox] https://youtu.be/r0WXGOaTZgQ

Posted by: malenkov | Apr 5 2025 0:29 utc | 151

Posted by: canuck | Apr 4 2025 13:44 utc | 98
“@104 Roger
Your post proves to me, not even being a Nietzsche scholar, that he is the most misquoted, misappropriated, and misunderstood thinker that ever had the misfortune of being a genius.
You are a good writer and thinker. You could probably do much better than this. But I will take a look at your book reference for the argument.”
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 4 2025 17:17 utc | 133
Look, Roger believes that Nietzsche was/is a Fascist -he died (1889?) fully 25 years before the actual definition of Fascism was defined and coined. (1)
However, there is no reason for me to rejoin the intellectual skirmish after Boyd’s last voluminous, rather pointless counter attack-I said my piece -Nietzsche wasn’t and can’t be defined as a Fascist; Boyd believes the opposite.
Readers can decide for themselves.
1. “Benito Mussolini upon being expelled from his position as chief editor of the PSI’s newspaper Avanti! for his anti-German stance, joined the interventionist cause in a separate fascio. The term “fascism” was first used in 1915 by members of Mussolini’s movement, the Fasces of Revolutionary Action.”

Posted by: canuck | Apr 5 2025 2:03 utc | 152

Both of you guys are Canadians and very rigid ideologues. Maybe you should get a room. Fly to Palm Springs or Boca Raton.

Posted by: Spectator | Apr 5 2025 2:28 utc | 154

Re: Manufacturing Rebirth ?
Needs young people who can work with their hands. US doesn’t have any.
Example – I run a small manufacturing shop. The younger employees need to be taught basic stuff – like how to use a broom, turn a screwdriver, use sandpaper, and the like. They‘ve never seen a drill press or table saw.
7th/8th wood shop was eliminated in the 1980s. High School industrial arts was killed a little bit later. Working on a junk car as a 17 year old is long gone.
How do you have a Manufacturing Rebirth when you first need to teach a 22 year old fellow how to sweep the shop floor ?

Posted by: Exile | Apr 5 2025 2:53 utc | 155

https://tinyurl.com/y5pr2mab
Iconic image removed in DEI purged
Maga

them injun dont belong here

https://tinyurl.com/263mb6s2

Posted by: denk | Apr 5 2025 3:08 utc | 156

Posted by: john brewster | Apr 4 2025 0:37 utc | 50

I have already responded to your attack here:
Posted by: KOB | Mar 17 2025 22:49 utc | 203
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2025/03/open-neither-ukraine-nor-palestine-thread-2025-050.html?cid=6a00d8341c640e53ef02c8d3ce9d50200c#comment-6a00d8341c640e53ef02c8d3ce9d50200c

Posted by: drinky crow | Apr 4 2025 6:47 utc | 73

Why personal attack? No one should be taking “vaccines” (see above comment).

Posted by: KOB | Apr 5 2025 3:12 utc | 157

Posted by: john brewster | Apr 4 2025 0:37 utc | 50

Ad hominem attacks are not a valid argument.

Posted by: KOB | Apr 5 2025 3:15 utc | 158

Posted by: Exile | Apr 5 2025 2:53 utc | 155
#########
I’ve seen that before. It’s mind-blowing to hire a 24 year old male who can’t operate a broom.
Surreal.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 5 2025 3:20 utc | 159

“Ad hominem attacks are not a valid argument.”
Posted by: KOB | Apr 5 2025 3:15 utc | 158
In your case they actually are valid. It is who/whom. You are a fucking idiot with your “viruses don’t exist” idiocy. Do you think Bigfoot exists?

Posted by: Spectator | Apr 5 2025 3:33 utc | 160

Now that I have had the time to peruse MoA’s archive, I can see why NemesisCalling finds the philosophies of Nietzsche and Heidegger so appealing. I discovered that today was not the first time I’ve seen NemesisCalling express questionable views.

Question:
Will China finally take it to the U.S. after the Israeli/Iran exchange?
It has become very tiring as a blue-collar European descended male who is married with children to keep giving China a pass for its dealings with the U.S., undercutting American manufacturing while feigning support for the Axis.
If Israel and Iran gets off the ground, I would hope barflies would agree that China had better escalate with the U.S. by selling treasuries and withholding Chinese goods.
C’mon China. Put your money where your mouth is and put up. Or else shuddap forever.
China is running out of excuses.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 4 2024 4:03 utc | 195

Back then, I wrongly assumed that NemesisCalling was some kind of Western “leftist” because his words seemed to suggest he supported the Axis of Resistance (which opposed the US Empire), so I responded accordingly:

We’ve all witnessed how the supposedly principled, neutral chants of “neither Washington nor Moscow” ended. Are you currently residing in China with the ability to affect the political discourse in China? If not, why the hell is your rhetoric directed against China, when China is at best/worst a distant secondary contradiction, and the primary contradiction is your own ruling class that allows for Chinese goods to be imported? Why not ask your “elected” representatives to ban Chinese goods? Why point the blame at China for exporting the goods? I mean, your elites have already banned EVs, Huawei telecommunications equipment, etc., so it ain’t hard to ban more stuff, right? Just say it’s a national security issue. This is like the US blaming China’s export of meth precursor chemicals for the meth epidemic in the US, instead of looking at the lax laws and enforcement in the US. Look, let’s be honest here. You’re a fascist. It’s okay if you want to steal the leftist/socialist branding now that the socialist bloc is on the rise. After all, the Nazis called themselves National Socialists despite their policies being fascist in nature. And the first targets of Nazis? Not the Jews, but the communists. I get why you loathe China with a passion. Your sympathy for the plight of Russia is only because you see a White-passing face staring back at you, and you can empathize with that.
Posted by: All Under Heaven | Aug 4 2024 6:19 utc | 222

I’m glad I, at least, was perceptive enough to recognize NemesisCalling’s fascistic leanings back then.
Digging deeper, I found NemesisCalling’s posts from 2016, which pretty much confirms that he’s your regular alt-right Trump cultist who loves Nietzsche and Heidegger (much ink has been spilled on the alt-right emulating their Nazi predecessors’ love for Nietzsche and Heidegger on various outlets like the Jacobin). Unsurprising that NemesisCalling hits it off with canuck, also another Trump cultist.
Here’s the 2016 post in question:

@211 psychohistorian
First off, sorry to misread you there. My honest mistake and I saw what I wanted to see there. I need to be a better reader.
With that said, I suppose I am suspicious of those that parrot msm tropes of “white supremecy affiliation,” even if you are just passing a link off without judgement. Forgive me for that, but what did THEY expect for Donald to do, completely alienate Bannon even though he did more to get him elected than anyone else? This may not be your intention, but it sounds like you have bought into this narrative of the KKK ascendency.
I see a lot of projection in your source regarding Bannon. No smoking gun, no pants down.
Furthermore, that yanniopolis guy, he has a dog in the fight and is considerably more reactionary towards the left. Do you know why? He is gay. He finds the lefts defense of muslims and gays as a supreme form of cognitive dissonance, especially with regards to the Hillary campaign receiving massive funds from GCC and KSA. Seems like a legit midwife of realizing the outright lunacy of our zionist left.
The ascendency of Breitbart which has been nurtured by Bannon is the direct result of the lefts attempt at neoliberal social engineering. It is a logical outcome. My hope is that Donald can find the sweet spot between establishment and reactionary. Otherwise…
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Nov 14 2016 15:41 utc | 218

Another barfly’s response to NemesisCalling from 2019 is also illuminating.

@177 NemesisCalling
Why aren’t you ridiculing Trump, instead? I’m not the one with the grandiose fantasies of bringing down China. Your Trump hero-worship is clouding your perception. The tariff war Trump has initiated is a prelude. When people go from extreme poverty to riches they trust the system that brought them there. Trump is trying to put cracks in that system. When people start to feel a decline, they become much more susceptible to foreign influence and inclined to rally to the struggles of, say, their Hong Kongese and Taiwanese cousins. Seeds of mistrust will fall and multiply in fertile soil. Ancient Chinese proverb.😁
Posted by: Circe | Jun 20 2019 23:47 utc | 180

I’ve got to say, modern-day fascists really are good at opportunistically shifting their professed political positions (for example, the feigned support for the Axis of Resistance), hiding their intent and hijacking leftist movements. Definitely learned that from Nazis who went around calling themselves national socialists, yet purged communists and socialists the moment they came to power.

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Apr 5 2025 3:53 utc | 161

Posted by: Spectator | Apr 5 2025 3:33 utc | 160

I plead to you to read this:
https://drsambailey.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/A-FAREWELL-TO-VIROLOGY-Expert-Edition-V1.2.pdf
Ignorance is not an excuse. Unquestioning obedience to authority is a danger to yourself and others.

Posted by: KOB | Apr 5 2025 3:57 utc | 162

https://tinyurl.com/y5pr2mab
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Maga
them injun dont belong here
https://tinyurl.com/263mb6s2
Posted by: denk | Apr 5 2025 3:08 utc | 156

Whether the MAGA/Trump cultists on MoA will admit it openly or not, this is exactly the outcome they wanted – erasure of a land’s natives.
Over on Twitter/X, the cultists are more honest in proclaiming that America is for Whites only, as ordained by Manifest Destiny.

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Apr 5 2025 3:59 utc | 163

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Apr 5 2025 3:59 utc | 163
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Trump should try telling that to this injun..
https://www.rt.com/usa/native-american-immigration-man-500/

Posted by: denk | Apr 5 2025 4:17 utc | 164

Trump reckons himself as Mckinley 2.0 …

Trump evoked manifest destiny
MSNBC News
https://www.msnbc.com › opinion › msnbc-opinion › tr…
6 days ago — “Manifest destiny,” a phrase Donald Trump used Monday as he promised to take the Panama Canal, is a call to domination and earasure.
——————
A short time from now, we are going to be changing the name of the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America — (applause) — and we will restore the name of a great president, William McKinley, to Mount McKinley, where it should be and where it belongs. (Applause.)
The United States will once again consider itself a growing nation — one that increases our wealth, expands our territory, builds our cities, raises our expectations, and carries our flag into new and beautiful horizons.
And we will pursue our manifest destiny into the stars,
President McKinley made our country very rich through tariffs and through talent

Thats all folks

Posted by: denk | Apr 5 2025 4:48 utc | 165

This is sure to please China.

Taiwan’s top security official arrives in US for secret talks
Meeting comes amid mounting tensions between Washington and Beijing

Taiwan’s top national security official is in the Washington area for secret talks with the Trump administration as China increases military pressure on its island neighbour.
Joseph Wu, Taiwan’s national security adviser and former foreign minister, is leading a delegation for a meeting known as the “special channel”. The talks were set for Friday and mark Donald Trump’s first use of the forum since he returned as US president in January.
The channel has been in use between the US and Taiwan for years but was first revealed by the Financial Times in 2021. It offers a setting for officials from Washington and Taipei to discuss security issues although the two sides do not openly discuss it.

The channel typically includes US officials from across the administration, including the National Security Council.

People familiar with the situation said figures in Trump’s “Make America Great Again” movement were seeking to purge NSC officials they considered “neoconservatives”, or more willing to use American military power abroad.
The Maga camp has received support from Laura Loomer, a far-right conspiracy theorist and social media influencer, who urged Trump in a meeting this week to fire NSC staffers. She has also targeted Alex Wong, deputy national security adviser, and Ivan Kanapathy, the NSC official for Asia who would have been expected to attend the secret channel meetings.
https://www.ft.com/content/8b18ff26-703e-4ace-b362-8ad862799e19

Loomer! Inside the Taiwan backchannel.

Posted by: too scents | Apr 5 2025 4:51 utc | 166

Posted by: denk | Apr 5 2025 4:17 utc | 164
And this from Rebecca Nagle in the early days of ‘covid’ in 2020:
“Look, I fully support banning travel from Europe to prevent the spread of infectious disease.
I just think it’s 528 years too late.”

Posted by: waynorinorway | Apr 5 2025 4:53 utc | 167

Posted by: waynorinorway | Apr 5 2025 4:53 utc | 167
——————–
The who’s who of eugenics junkies…
Exhibit A
‘My three main goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with it’s full complement of species, returning throughout the world.’
https://www.azquotes.com/quotes/topics/depopulation.html
Signing off….

Posted by: denk | Apr 5 2025 5:07 utc | 168

Laura Loomer pretends to be “far right wing”, but she is just another zionist. No wonder she was able to talk to Trump without too much screeching by the MSM.

Posted by: Spectator | Apr 5 2025 5:16 utc | 169

People familiar with the situation said figures in Trump’s “Make America Great Again” movement were seeking to purge NSC officials they considered “neoconservatives”, or more willing to use American military power abroad.
Posted by: too scents | Apr 5 2025 4:51 utc | 166
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These hypocrites! They have no problem with military power used for Israel.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 5 2025 5:31 utc | 170

Some more from me on the Heidegger debate.
Cybernetics is also known as control theory. The old greek term means helmsman, and as a branch of science it took off after 1945 and especially with the advent of the microchip, as Turing machines are required to process the (original) models. What models? Think industrial control – networks of pipes, with valves, and different pressures etc. Mathematically, that is called a system of ordinary differential equations, and while computing effort rises with the system’s complexity, there is still not really much to say about it from a view of numerical analysis. Basically there’s one short theorem and no real problems, aside from the computing power.
In the history of modern (European) man’s thinking about his own thoughts – the philosophy of mind – one encounters the curious observation that with each contemporary stage of technological invention, the respective technical marvels are broadly used as a metaphor for the workings of the mind. La Mettrie wrote about L’Homme Machine, Nietzsche’s idea of eternal repetition resembles a closed loop in Newtonian state space (he actually tried to prove it and failed; it’s wrong, cf. Poincaré’s Theorem), then mind was associated with brain, and brain activity with electrodynamics, and from there springs the metaphor of the mind as a computer with an executive stage exercising a “program”. Today we’ve reached a stage where biologists are beginning to hear that quantum mechanics has been discovered, so they start viewing the mind through this lense. The Freiburg Parapsychologists use this kind ‘modelling’, it may be considered the leading edge in current naturalist theory, especially when it’s supposed to be computational. Ask a cognitive scientist.
For Heidegger to come up with a statement such as his dark muttering about Philosophy about to be replaced by Cybernetics is bizarre and sickening. He, of all people, should have known better, for it is Edmund Husserl- his ‘beloved’ teacher – whose discoveries allow a clear sight on all these kinds of ‘naturalist’ agenda. While Husserl himself didn’t go as far as I do to claim it’s a paradigm change in Metaphysics, what we’re dealing with is by all appearances the most important thing in European Philosophy since Plato founded the Academy. And Heidegger just cancels it, unfaithful, even dishonest. It’s mind-boggling for me to read him in the interview. I’m also not the only one to pick such a strong term as ‘dishonest’.
One more word on Cybernetics. The basic notion can be viewed in all glory in the currently deflating AI craze, itself by now the third iteration of a deflated AI craze since the first modelling of a Neuron (McCullough-Pitts 1943). The concomitant development in physiology culminate in the non-equlibrium stability equations of Ilya Prigogine (chemistry Nobel 1977), called ‘dissipative structures’. These are all fascinating intellectual achievements, but in relation to the mind, it’s as if the space aliens were trying to explore what’s moving the people in a city by studying the garbage disposal. Husserl is absolutely clear on all this, he wrote a stark warning, Die Krisis der Europäischen Wissenschaften (1936), which went mostly unheard not least because of a certain Martin Heidegger.

Posted by: persiflo | Apr 5 2025 6:22 utc | 171

The Neutrality Studies YouTube channel has posted up a good interview on the JFK-Adelson-Mossad connection. It hits the high notes inside an hour.
Cover-Up Continues After Newly Released JFK Files | Harry Berger & Aaron Good ==> https://youtu.be/IhRZ_gHhUWs

Posted by: too scents | Apr 5 2025 8:11 utc | 172

JFK-Adelson-Mossad
Posted by: too scents | Apr 5 2025 8:11 utc | 172

Adelson Angleton

Posted by: too scents | Apr 5 2025 8:15 utc | 173

Pork. Pork. Pork. Pork. Pork.

Trump Administration Weighs New Bailout for U.S. Farmers
Bracing for trade fallout, agriculture groups press for relief ahead of retaliatory tariffs on American exports

Trump administration officials and lawmakers are mulling a new bailout for U.S. farmers as agricultural groups warn of economic fallout from the president’s tariff push.
The discussions are at an early stage, with the scope of potential relief needed still unclear, according to administration officials, lawmakers, congressional aides and farm trade groups.
“We’re talking about, looking at it,” Sen. John Hoeven (R., N.D.) said of the possible relief package, noting he had spoken about it Thursday with Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins.

Amid a downturn in the agricultural market, Congress late last year approved $10 billion in relief aid to farmers. USDA recently began distributing the funds. A new relief package could potentially be larger, given the broad nature of the tariffs and industry challenges, a congressional aide said Friday.

“We are setting up the infrastructure that if, in fact, we have some economic consequences in the short term to our farmers and perhaps our ranchers, that we will have programs in place to solve for that,” Rollins told reporters this week.
Even with the aid, farm groups have warned for months that retaliatory tariffs targeting U.S. agricultural exports could further harm prices for corn, soybeans, cotton and other crops. More than 20% of farm income comes from exports, according to the American Farm Bureau Federation, one of the nation’s largest agriculture trade groups.

“We hope there will be a bailout,” said Barry Evans, who farms sorghum and cotton on 5,000 acres in Texas and sits on the board of directors for the sorghum grain trade group. “If we don’t get something, it will be quite a disaster.”
Soybean prices sank on Friday and are down nearly 20% over the past 12 months. Roughly 60% of soybeans, meal and soy oil produced in the U.S. end up exported.
Trump’s first trade war led to more than $27 billion in losses of agricultural exports, according to USDA research. The federal government sent about $23 billion to compensate farmers during Trump’s first term.
full story ==> https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-administration-weighs-new-bailout-for-u-s-farmers-8916a521

Agriculture has long been unprofitable without government aid. Something about the tendency of profit to fall.
The correct support is to give people vouchers that they can use to spend on agricultural production and thus let the market decide where the value is.

Posted by: too scents | Apr 5 2025 8:49 utc | 174

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Posted by: Menz | Apr 5 2025 9:44 utc | 175

Anyone surprised? The Dutch have so much interests in the US that they do not want to be hurt by their… EU partners.
https://www.dutchnews.nl/2025/04/dutch-urge-restraint-over-us-tariff-response-ahead-of-eu-meeting/

Posted by: Tom | Apr 5 2025 10:13 utc | 176

JFK and Egelton and Oswald were discussed by Johnson McGovern at Judge yesterday. Explosive.

Posted by: Tom | Apr 5 2025 10:19 utc | 177

Good morning from London folks. A leisurely start today.
Well where to now? I’ll pick the Neitschen canard if I may?
First a thanks to all the participants regardless of their motive or worth.
Don’t know how long it’ll be, sorry Roger.
I’ll start by badly quoting that so far unmentioned and later person than Nietzsche. The crisis consists entirely in the new struggling to be born while the old refuses to lay down and die as Gramsci discerned speaking of the same problem.
He was another great Eurocentric ‘Philosopher’, who had rebelled against the fake socialism of the Marxist Communist neo religion created by the ziofascist AngloEuropeans owners and master through the C19th. As it was rejected by Stalin and co too!
That was cooked up into the full blown Nazism as a mental aberration to send the German peoples and fellow travellers to the mincer, as they had in the trench warfare of WW1 (which actually wasn’t about war, just a means of getting rid of troublesome ‘peasants’.)
The main effort of WW2 was to savagely destroy all things Russia and China – including the failed attempt at imposing the neoreligion of Leninist-Trotskyism upon the followers of the Orthodox of Russia that had escaped the yoke of jesuite ziofascist Holy Rome!
This seems to have been facilitated by the Russian Peoples long developed nature, to embrace their spiritual EurAsinism with the spiritual message of the Christianity.
The critical thought being that the orthodox that had escaped like a genie from the bottle of Western European ziofascism of the Holy Roman Empires’ grasp – is actually the liberalism that some here seek!
Is that the morality that Nietzsche spake of and seems to have wanted to be the guiding principle of a superior European race?
I understand he died early and a lot of his works were possibly written by his sister and her partner.
I don’t know more than that.
Is it true?
The Russian psyche that so befuddled the ziofascists and their henchmen for centuries and including Napoleon to Churchill to Hitler to the Collective Waste now.
It was born from the millenia of tribal sharing the vast EurAsian continent that gave rise to the multiple civilisational evolutions.
The savagery of suffering, attempted genocidal extermination, cruelty and mass slaughter of family and neighbours and all the strangers as the ziofascist overlords sent their willing ‘supermen’ and slave masters to do their bidding against the only true ‘European’ human spirit, that had resisted them again and again, without resorting to dumb animal rage and destroying the invaders totally and forever – because they are a moral human civilisation evolved peoples.
Civilised – that is the EurAsian lands.
And Africans.
That’s what made them so easily captured, enslaved, exploited …
The fact such old human civilisations didn’t respond by destroying the invaders and following them back to our lands and laying such a birthing cesspool to ruins so that such evil could not rise again upon the Earth – is a testament of the true liberalism, built of deep spirituality , unsullied by the myth of a single god, an ubermensch , that results in that imaginary entity creating and supporting a Chosen One Peoples to Own and Rule over the whole of ‘Creation’.
Yup the fascist, ziofascist, financial fascist, roots run deep into history and the fake creation myths post the failure of their empire to extend any further under the Roman guise!
That led to all the imperial nation states of Europe- all with their superiority complexes! Culminating in the British Empire and the baton passing to the American Empire – of which we now see the direct transformation of a Republic to a Monarchic State with its Caesars!
I’m not saying it just started with Drumpff – Hey the Roosevelt’s and Bush’s and other such landed gentry have been around since befor the Mason Dixon Line was ordained by the elite aristos sent to colonise the east coast only!
That too seems intent on bashing its brains upon the ancient folly of the conquest of EurAsia. URA!
Whether anyone can put the blame firmly at Neitschzes tomb is in my mind, unsettled.
Have good day barflies.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Apr 5 2025 10:33 utc | 178

But @Dun, his name is … oh.
Also, belated, supergut to juliania for bringing up Dostoevsky’s novel “The Demons” as it’s called in German. Spot on and brilliant!
FWIW, another kind of European modernity one can find in Robert Musil’s The Man Without Qualities, which is a delightful read. malenkov might be the one most qualified to go into this subject; if he declines, I’ll try my best later.
Nietzsche has an ancestor, so to speak, in Max Stirner. Some consider him the original. Stirner was individualist and anarchist, and he didn’t get a job at a Prussian State University, the only civic option for a philosopher in Germany. A fate shared by yours truly.

Posted by: persiflo | Apr 5 2025 10:58 utc | 179

Vance prepping US troops in Greenland for the illegal land grab.
“On Friday, Vance told US troops stationed at Pituffik Space Base on Greenland’s coast that Washington plans to annex the mineral-rich region, if necessary, by “military force.”
Vance criticized Denmark, claiming that the small Scandinavian country had failed to adequately protect the island’s security.
“Our message to Denmark is very simple … You have underinvested in the people of Greenland, and you have underinvested in the security architecture of this incredible, beautiful landmass filled with incredible people. That has to change.”
The majority of Greenland’s 57,000 inhabitants are in favor of independence from Denmark. However, since Trump expressed his willingness to annex the ice-covered island, they say are not interested in joining the United States.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 5 2025 14:16 utc | 180

“Nietzsche’s idea of eternal repetition resembles”
Posted by: persiflo | Apr 5 2025 6:22 utc | 171
Actually , Nietzsche’s ,”ewige Wiederkehr’, is usually translated as, ‘eternal recurrence’, which is much the same thing. The idea is simple- in a syllogism : with these first two assumptions if you believe them Nietzsche is right on:
If one believes that no matter how big the Universe is, it is finite.
Time is infinite.
Hence, anything that can happen will happen; and it will happen over and over again for eternity..
So in 50 billion years from now or so LoveDonbass will be a serious poster, posting sparsely and entertaining; Sun of Alabama will make sense; malenkov will become a Republican; von der Leyen will be a charming peace loving woman; gruff will be a mental retard; Kamala will be a brilliant physicist; Starmer will be a gay ditchdigger; and, I, I will become a boring , monotonous and shallow poster!!

Posted by: canuck | Apr 5 2025 15:17 utc | 181

“Ad hominem attacks are not a valid argument.”
Posted by: KOB | Apr 5 2025 3:15 utc | 158
In your case they actually are valid. It is who/whom. You are a fucking idiot with your “viruses don’t exist” idiocy. Do you think Bigfoot exists?
Posted by: Spectator | Apr 5 2025 3:33 utc | 160
Its much more complex than your realiz: , Antione Bechamp, was a contemporary of Pasteur’s.
Bechamp’s idea was called ‘terrain theory’ such that bacteria, viruses themselves are not the initiating incident they were fine until there was weak or damaged, or toxic tissue and they would would attack; voila infection..
On Pasteur’s deathbed his last words were, “Bechamps is right”.(1)
“1.Béchamp’s “Terrain Theory”:
Béchamps argued that microbes became dangerous when the health of the host (its “terrain” or environment) deteriorated, rather than being the primary cause of disease as Pasteur proposed with his germ theory.
The Rivalry:
Their rivalry stemmed from their competing theories about fermentation and disease, with Béchamp criticizing Pasteur’s germ theory as “the greatest scientific silliness of the age”.
Pasteur’s Germ Theory:
Pasteur’s germ theory, which states that many diseases are caused by invisible germs, is the foundation of modern medicine and is supported by evolutionary theory and observations.
Béchamp’s Legacy:
Today, Béchamp is largely remembered by those who promote alternative medicine and anti-vaxxers, who believe that food is medicine and that the body’s internal environment is the key to health.
Other Opponents:
While Béchamp was the most prominent opponent, Pasteur also faced criticism from others who continued to defend spontaneous generation, the belief that life could arise spontaneously from non-living matter. ”

Posted by: canuck | Apr 5 2025 15:30 utc | 182

“I will become a boring , monotonous and shallow poster!!”
Canul (180).
How come you get to stay the same..lol.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 5 2025 15:46 utc | 183

Shit stirrers on steroid …..
Arab News
Saturday . April 05, 2025
HomeTrumps’ top diplomat Rubio affirms ‘ironclad’ US commitment to Philippines amid China threat
————–
Right after the sino/jp/sk summit,
6 days ago — U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth described Japan on Sunday as indispensable for tackling Chinese aggression and said implementing of a …
6 days ago — United States Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth says his country and Japan share a “warrior ethos” in tackling Chinese aggression across the Taiwan
Pentagon chief Hegseth says US command in ‘warrior’ Japan being upgraded to deter China

Posted by: denk | Apr 5 2025 15:50 utc | 184

Calling a proxy war by its name!
The Rumsfeld Matrix: “Reports that say that something hasn’t happened are always interesting to me because, as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say, we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns—the ones we don’t know we don’t know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tends to be the difficult ones.”
After three years of telling us that a barbaric Russia, led by Authoritarian Dictator Putin, without provocation, invaded his democracy-loving neighbor, Ukraine, we will never know why The Establishment suddenly lifted the veil and decided to tell us what anyone with an IQ higher than room temperature should know.
A New York Times article dated March 29, 2025, titled The Partnership: The Secret History of the War in Ukraine, which is nothing but a doctored and heavily massaged version of the untold story of America’s proxy war against Russia.
If only Africans would try to gather their facts from sources other than the BBC and CNN!
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Posted by: Femi Akomolafe | Apr 5 2025 15:53 utc | 185

What is “warrior ethos?”
..from US Army (boys and girls)
WARRIOR ETHOS
I will always place the mission first.
I will never accept defeat.
I will never quit.
I will never leave a fallen comrade…here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 5 2025 15:59 utc | 186

I will become a boring , monotonous and shallow poster!!
Canuk (180).
“How come you get to stay the same..lol.”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Apr 5 2025 15:46 utc | 182
Ha, ha- touché; well it is an ‘eternal recurrence universe’ so , of cursed , I will once again become ,’boring, monotonous and shallow’.

Posted by: canuck | Apr 5 2025 16:06 utc | 187

@161 AUH
Sorry for the delayed response. I usually like to settle in with some coffee before answering fan mail.
Do you know, dear sir, that I was the first poster here, perhaps the first person ever, to use the phrase “decouple” in reference to the U.S. and China’s trade relations? Check it out. (I have tried, but am unable to find the exact point I started with it, but I do have an affinity for wagons, trains, and hitches)
Your response to mine is basically the flip side: I throw some shade on China because everyone here always gives them a pass and you send it back and tell me to look at my own elite who sold us down the river to the Chinese. I don’t see anything necessarily wrong with either and, in fact, I have come around in my writing here to reflect that position: China has worked hard to secure the mantle as supreme, manufacturing powerhouse.
What I wanted to accomplish with my writing is the idea of mutual infection, that China made a deal with western elites (basically Satan) to make McDonald’s Happy Meal toys for us and you could expect bad things down the line. Now, what’s the problem? China used its mercantilism the same way the U.S. uses tomahawks. Who can argue against this? Are you really going to defend the position that when a nation guts its own manufacturing sector, that the accomplices to this policy will not reap a whirlwind down the line? “But it’s just friendly competition!” you will say. Sure, competition that when it enters the existential realities of a nation’s tenability will invite war and conflict in the future. We are seeing the fruits of this.
Now what were China’s alternatives? I don’t think they had any. They have no choice but to harness their strength, to “shake their money maker,” what God gave them. Perhaps I am asking too much from China then to openly challenge the liberal west and that their pussy-footing might be the only means at their disposal to eventually wear down Uncle Sambo and his gimps. So you can see, I think my view of China has evolved and I think that is ok. Isn’t that the point of philosophical dialogue? The teacher needs students, and I think it is an indictment of the whole liberal edifice we inhabit to smear someone or judge them for not towing the company line right this minute! I work hard in the other direction: I want to be a teacher, therefore I need a student to nurture. And, I believe in teaching, therefore I need to be an excellent student.

Now regarding philosophers like Heidegger and Nietzsche, I will admit that I am more familiar with Heidegger. However, there is something special about Nietzsche and it is beyond what Canuck alludes to above in his post regarding the endless cycle of violence and renewal of the Dionysian that speaks to me.
Liberalism is not a neutral system that welcomes all and celebrates all. Nietzsche correctly points out that liberalism is the greatest tyranny of all because it accepts no substitutes. It entertains and permits discussion to occur, although this is even becoming less acceptable to them as their plight enters its twilight, but because philosophy has been relegated to being an equal amongst the physical and social sciences, philosophers are treated more as anatomical oddities (“How did they live? What drugs did they consume? What affairs did they partake in?”) and when a man like Heidegger comes around during the National Socialist Movement in the hopes of transmogrifying the liberal mind back into authentic Dasein in the service of world spirit, he is smeared as backwards, an ape, a fascist.
The same goes for Nietzsche here at the bar. If Liberalism continually seeks to stifle spirit, keep it in the bottle locked away, so to speak, in its substituting Leviathan for Dionysis, I can think of no greater anti-human force that has befallen mankind now or ever. And yet people here refuse to acknowledge this or give credit to Nietzsche who was perhaps the first in history to point out that liberalism is not a neutral system. “We have killed Him,” the madman says.
As a Christian, it is painful for me to have to agree that the promise of safety from Dionysian violence destroys what makes a human being a human being. This is the question that arises from the work of Rene Girard who took a great look at Nietzsche and Heidegger’s reading of Nietzsche.

But, and here is the breakthrough when looking at these guys: they all agree that Liberalism is not the system of peace it says it is. Whether or not it unwittingly obscures the Dionysian pull or sanctions it in a backroom, it is insufficient when dealing with human reality and its need for violence. This is what I mean when I say that liberalism has not reconciled with the sacred. That modern liberalism is really just Catholicism minus its sacred trappings (Catholicism started the university and hospital system and kept the Jews (usury) under control).
Nietzsche: Mankind is violent and needs the Dionysian; Liberalism/Post-Christianity is a doomed tyrant.
Heidegger: Man is the one who breaks open reality and innately desires to know. We need Nietzsche.
Girard: We can accept Heidegger and Nietzsche for their uncovering of the essential obscuring of the Dionysian within the Liberal cult. But is the resulting violence, even in the open, really acceptable, or has God sent a messenger and an alternative message where he wants us to realize Man’s fallen nature/need for blood sacrifice and has offered a scapegoat in place of all other innocent victims?

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 5 2025 16:12 utc | 188

“The same goes for Nietzsche here at the bar. If Liberalism continually seeks to stifle spirit, keep it in the bottle locked away, so to speak, in its substituting Leviathan for Dionysius, I can think of no greater anti-human force that has befallen mankind now or ever. And yet people here refuse to acknowledge this or give credit to Nietzsche who was perhaps the first in history to point out that liberalism is not a neutral system. “We have killed Him,” the madman says.”
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 5 2025 16:12 utc | 187
Wow!!
One of most the most profound paragraphs I have read in weeks.
Bravo.

Posted by: canuck | Apr 5 2025 16:19 utc | 189

China has hit back hard in its tariff response.
They won’t cover this in Western news.
Now it is up to Trump to retaliate. The problem for him is that China has all of the cards.
If it goes far enough, China can always “nuke” the treasury market.
As I posted in the tariff discussion, which has been abandoned for colonizer white supremacy philosophy class, China is positioning itself to accept zero-tariff imports from the poorest Global South countries.
Trump’s gambit was to bring everyone to the negotiating table with guns to their heads.
Extorting money from the Arab kingdoms won’t do much if Iran erases all of their oilfields.
Every missile that the Houthi absorbs is exponentially more difficult to replace today. It’s not about money, it’s about the necessary stuff to make more. China has cut off supply to a lot of resources, which may necessitate war for America to gain access to them again. Hence, the Ukraine “deal” and Greenland. Without the right resources, America is done.
The crypto-fascists at the bar can now carry on with their white supremacy philosophy (LOL) chat.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 5 2025 16:48 utc | 190

@189 canuck
Blessings and thanks.
Truthfully, you could plug my comment into chatgpt and get a better summary.
Cybernetics…indeed!
Off to spray some glyphosate. Hope the Great White North is treating you well and let’s get together in No Man’s Land when our countries are at war in the future.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 5 2025 16:49 utc | 191

————
Hegseth

gringo and jp share a warrior etho

G7 SHARe a pirates creed.
fify
At least hEGSETH spare us that human rights, rule of law ‘SHARED values’ BS,

Posted by: denk | Apr 5 2025 17:07 utc | 192

Off to spray some glyphosate.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Apr 5 2025 16:49 utc | 191

It works fastest when sprayed by passing it through your kidneys.

Posted by: too scents | Apr 5 2025 17:12 utc | 193

Hegseth

Hey all you gooks, go fight the chinks, I’ll have your back, dont you worry !

https://tinyurl.com/3p42wbwz

Posted by: denk | Apr 5 2025 17:19 utc | 194

Poor jp collared by the gringo to celebrate the Iwo Jima genocide !
https://tinyurl.com/3un4rtm3
[11]

Posted by: denk | Apr 5 2025 17:29 utc | 195

Intelligence Sources: China Will Try To Take Taiwan in Six Months – A takeover of the Republic of China (ROC) on the island of Taiwan by the Mainland People’s Republic of China (PRC) is increasingly being considered a question of “not if, but when.” . .here
This will involve extensions of the recent China drills around Taiwan. China’s activities are designed to take Taiwan back to China.
There will also be other factors, other reactions to China’s Taiwan takeover. For example, there are 750,000 migrant workers in Taiwan, including 250,000 Filipinos and “we will have to rescue them” says Philippines. Another factor: The PRC blockade of Taiwan would be an enormous threat to the ROK economy. If ROK imports through the South China Sea are delayed by just “two to three days,” the ROK will experience “enormous economic losses.”

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 5 2025 17:37 utc | 196

Posted by: Don Bacon | Apr 5 2025 17:37 utc | 196
#############
China will liberate and emancipate Taiwan. America has been setting up Taiwan to be the Ukraine of the Pacific, a hostage to American foreign policy.
The Chinese could move at any time. I think they will wait until America gets involved militarily anywhere else, because the Yankees don’t have the men or materiel to “walk and chew gum” at the same time.
I follow Taiwan stuff a little. The main thing is to overthrow the American puppet government, the rest will rejoin China quickly.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Apr 5 2025 17:50 utc | 197

@canuck | Sat, 05 Apr 2025 15:17:00 GMT | 181

If one believes that no matter how big the Universe is, it is finite.
Time is infinite.
Hence, anything that can happen will happen; and it will happen over and over again for eternity..

That’s not true. Even in an Newtonian phase space you can find orbits – called attractors – which are not closed even in finite space and infinite time. The simplest example is a pair of bodies like Earth and Moon who revolve around a common center of mass while slowly closing in until they collide – The End.
I’m fairly certain, but not sure (as it’s my learned intuition) that Nietzsche – ‘Needs-shuh – had a Newtonian idea in mind; I know that he tried to compute it, and failed. The reasons became clear only later; Poincaré’s Theorem is from 1890 and was proved in 1914 IIRC. It is a most consequential theorem, which gives rise to the popular ‘Butterfly Effect’ and allows a complete refuting of deterministic naturalism all by itself.
[jukebox] Georg”>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L2vLH2KgSU”>Georg Friedrich Haas – Limited Approximations (2010)

Posted by: persiflo | Apr 5 2025 17:54 utc | 198

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L2vLH2KgSU <-- apologies for formatting error above. Next round's on me.

Posted by: persiflo | Apr 5 2025 17:58 utc | 199

Whats with gringo/jap

Shared values

No Punishment, Little Remorse
731 vet

There’s a possibility this could happen again,

https://zzwave.com/cmfweb/wiihist/germwar/germwar.htm
Thats all folks !

Posted by: denk | Apr 5 2025 17:59 utc | 200