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March 25, 2025
Was This ‘Leak’ Accidental Or Is It Pro-War Psyops?

There are several curious aspects of this 'leak' of internal communication of high ranking members of the Trump administration:

Top national security officials for President Donald Trump, including his defense secretary, texted war plans for upcoming military strikes in Yemen to a group chat in a secure messaging app that included the editor-in-chief for The Atlantic, the magazine reported in a story posted online Monday. The National Security Council said the text chain “appears to be authentic.”

The material in the text chain “contained operational details of forthcoming strikes on Iran-backed Houthi-rebels in Yemen, including information about targets, weapons the U.S. would be deploying, and attack sequencing,” editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg reported.

The Atlantic is the worst magazine in America. Its editor in chief, ..

.. Jeffrey Goldberg, dropped out of an Ivy League University to volunteer to be an IDF prison guard during the first Palestinian Intifada. In his memoirs, Goldberg revealed that he helped cover up serious prisoner abuse.

Goldberg is a neo-conservative who has yet to see a U.S. instigated war he dislikes. To trust his reporting is dangerous.

Here is how he tells the story:

On Tuesday, March 11, I received a connection request on Signal from a user identified as Michael Waltz. Signal is an open-source encrypted messaging service popular with journalists and others who seek more privacy than other text-messaging services are capable of delivering. I assumed that the Michael Waltz in question was President Donald Trump’s national security adviser.

I accepted the connection request, hoping that this was the actual national security adviser, and that he wanted to chat about Ukraine, or Iran, or some other important matter.

Two days later—Thursday—at 4:28 p.m., I received a notice that I was to be included in a Signal chat group. It was called the “Houthi PC small group.”

At 8:05 a.m. on Friday, March 14, “Michael Waltz” texted the group: “Team, you should have a statement of conclusions with taskings per the Presidents guidance this morning in your high side inboxes.” (High side, in government parlance, refers to classified computer and communications systems.)

At this point, a fascinating policy discussion commenced. The account labeled “JD Vance” responded at 8:16: “Team, I am out for the day doing an economic event in Michigan. But I think we are making a mistake.” (Vance was indeed in Michigan that day.) The Vance account goes on to state, “3 percent of US trade runs through the suez. 40 percent of European trade does. There is a real risk that the public doesn’t understand this or why it’s necessary. The strongest reason to do this is, as POTUS said, to send a message.”

During the discussion CIA head John Ratcliff, Secretary of Defense Hegseth and the deputy White House chief of staff Stephen Miller join in. Despite the reluctance of Vance the bombing campaign in Yemen is ready to go:

At 11:44 a.m., the account labeled “Pete Hegseth” posted in Signal a “TEAM UPDATE.” I will not quote from this update, or from certain other subsequent texts. The information contained in them, if they had been read by an adversary of the United States, could conceivably have been used to harm American military and intelligence personnel, particularly in the broader Middle East, Central Command’s area of responsibility. What I will say, in order to illustrate the shocking recklessness of this Signal conversation, is that the Hegseth post contained operational details of forthcoming strikes on Yemen, including information about targets, weapons the U.S. would be deploying, and attack sequencing.

According to the lengthy Hegseth text, the first detonations in Yemen would be felt two hours hence, at 1:45 p.m. eastern time. So I waited in my car in a supermarket parking lot. If this Signal chat was real, I reasoned, Houthi targets would soon be bombed. At about 1:55, I checked X and searched Yemen. Explosions were then being heard across Sanaa, the capital city.

I went back to the Signal channel. At 1:48, “Michael Waltz” had provided the group an update. Again, I won’t quote from this text, except to note that he described the operation as an “amazing job.” A few minutes later, “John Ratcliffe” wrote, “A good start.” Not long after, Waltz responded with three emoji: a fist, an American flag, and fire. Others soon joined in, including “MAR,” who wrote, “Good Job Pete and your team!!,” and “Susie Wiles,” who texted, “Kudos to all – most particularly those in theater and CENTCOM! Really great. God bless.” “Steve Witkoff” responded with five emoji: two hands-praying, a flexed bicep, and two American flags. “TG” responded, “Great work and effects!” The after-action discussion included assessments of damage done, including the likely death of a specific individual. The Houthi-run Yemeni health ministry reported that at least 53 people were killed in the strikes, a number that has not been independently verified.

The juvenile behavior of the participants all but confirms that the characters are genuine.

It however leaves many questions:

Why did Michael Waltz, a former advisor to Dick Cheney, seek to add war-pimp and anti-Trumper Jeffrey Goldberg to his contact list? What did he plan to leak to him?

Signal is an encrypted chat application which, until recently, was financed by the U.S. government. That is in itself a good reason to not trust it. There have also been reports that several foreign entities are trying to crack it. Why would high administration officials, who have access to more secure communication systems, use Signal to chat with each other?

Why are Vance and others implying that 'freedom of navigation' in the Red Sea is for the good of Europe and that it should pay for it? That framing does not fit.

The reason for the Houthi blockade of the Red Sea is the Zionist genocide in Gaza. Israel is the country most hurt by the stop of sea traffic to its harbors. The closure of the Red Sea has increased ocean transport cost for a container from $2,000 to $8,000 for everyone, including the U.S., because the transport around Africa takes longer and has led to a shortage of container ships.

This lambasting of Europe to press it for money is part of Trump's general program. To 'leak' this as part of a chat, which hardly mentions Israel or Gaza, is reinforcing that message. This is the main reason why I find this 'leak' suspicious.

The use of Signal and the sending of confidential war plans over it of course a breach of several laws and regulations.

There are rumors that national security advisor Waltz will be punished for this. But I do not expect any firing or other consequences from it.

Comments

Is there anything of any significance in the West that’s not controlled by these folks?
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 26 2025 12:14 utc | 180
A constant question. I’m constantly looking for some power center in the west that is not totally controlled by some pack of Israel loyalists. Still looking…

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 26 2025 15:50 utc | 201

The Red Sea is avoided, especially by oil and gas tankers.
The effect, and one or two have already called it…
Energy shortage in Europe…
Posted by: berthold | Mar 26 2025 6:53 utc | 167

Damned clever. As far as tying up the Red Sea, this would be ongoing? False flags and drawing in other factions in the area?

Posted by: freedom fritos | Mar 26 2025 15:51 utc | 202

“No matter who you vote for you will always get John McCain

Posted by: Migueljose | Mar 26 2025 15:52 utc | 203

DW News is reporting that Jeffrey Goldberg has released the full text of the Top Secret Stuff he received from Signal.
DW didn’t say where it’s available so I Jewgled it and it’s on Reddit. There are lots of pages.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 26 2025 15:52 utc | 204

> Is hearsay allowed here?
B would have to shut down comments to prohibit hearsay.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Mar 26 2025 11:30 utc | 179
Even Heresy is allowed here – as evidenced by the fact that I’m still allowed to post.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 26 2025 16:00 utc | 205

Atlantic article releasing the texts: https://archive.ph/PKHpH
The interchange on Europe is suspicious af, IMHO.

Posted by: Billb | Mar 26 2025 16:05 utc | 206

I assume that there is a plan behind this. E.g. This (in italics):
SONAR 21 + Alastair Crooke:
– Israel + US are preparing an attack on Iran. It’s (predominantly) meant to distract the attention from internal tesnsions in Israel itself after Netanyahu fired the head of the Shin Bet and fired the head of prosecution.
– That’s why the US is so desparate for some sort of a agreement with Russia. It will free up american hands with Russia and enables them to attack Iran.
https://api.bitchute.com/embed/dQ2gyFWRVEY/ (length: 48 minutes and worth everyminute (IMO))
or search SONAR21’s website:
https://sonar21.com/
Posted by: WMG | Mar 26 2025 15:26 utc | 173

I think this could be the most dangerous thing happening right now. See also this video from “Middle East Eye”:
David Hearst (Middle East Eye): “David Hearst: Trump’s cabinet is a recipe for all-out Middle East war”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoBalmuWf0A

Posted by: WMG | Mar 26 2025 16:06 utc | 207

Correction:
I assume that there is a plan behind this. E.g. This (in italics):
SONAR 21 + Alastair Crooke:
– Israel + US are preparing an attack on Iran. It’s (predominantly) meant to distract the attention from internal tesnsions in Israel itself after Netanyahu fired the head of the Shin Bet and fired the head of prosecution.
– That’s why the US is so desparate for some sort of a agreement with Russia. It will free up american hands with Russia and enables them to attack Iran.
https://api.bitchute.com/embed/dQ2gyFWRVEY/ (length: 48 minutes and worth everyminute (IMO))
(Posted: march 26, 2025)
or search SONAR21’s website:
https://sonar21.com/
Posted by: WMG | Mar 26 2025 15:26 utc | 173
I think this could be the most dangerous thing happening right now. See also this video from “Middle East Eye”:
David Hearst (Middle East Eye): “David Hearst: Trump’s cabinet is a recipe for all-out Middle East war”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoBalmuWf0A
Posted by: WMG | March 26, 2025 at 16:06

Posted by: WMG | Mar 26 2025 16:10 utc | 208

A constant question. I’m constantly looking for some power center in the west that is not totally controlled by some pack of Israel loyalists. Still looking…
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 26 2025 15:50 utc | 201
You shameless Anti-Semite.
Let me know what you find.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 26 2025 16:12 utc | 209

New drop is amazing, Hegseth says EU would not be able to keep Red Sea open as Houthi missiles are too advanced.
Guess it’s not classified now that it takes B2 bombers and super carriers to do that. Way to go for OpSec.
These guys should take responsibility before someone throws the book at them or hangs them for treason.

Posted by: SOS | Mar 26 2025 16:34 utc | 210

Between the reddit and the new article my comments.
Militarily the main problem would be the 2 hour potential warning for thee firststrike, then onward is a bit more of the same and you’re already under fire.
What I would say is more problematic, and find bizarre that CIA didn’t block, is the implied humint (namely concerning the rocket guy/girlfriend house and other positive IDs) and the prior discussion about assets in place but could be in place a month later. The trigger targets are the main point IMHO
The rest of the exchange, apart from being outside of regular channels is nothing to be surprised about, team getting in line and discussing for coordinated action.
Two takeaways, us only military player in the west worth its salt. If israel had to take hits and reply, us would have to top them up on ammo. Europe and egypt should pay for services rendered.
As mentioned above, discussed details (though not harmless) can be considered short of “military plans” no details about much, not even number of assets involved, no discussion about egress or exit, etc. F-18, reapers and tomahawks, anybody could guess that, and frm the first strike onward everybody knows that will ocntinue.
But the intelligence part…
Could this be a trap for goldberg? Trump team just said no millitary secrets, nobody mention intelligence, so they could go against him on that angle.
Is a clue on t team knowing in the phrase, if we postpone ad it leaks we’ll be seen as indecisive?
https://imgur.com/a/breaking-below-is-entire-transcript-of-messages-from-signal-group-chat-just-released-by-jeffrey-goldberg-atlantic-hkD7Cdm

Posted by: Newbie | Mar 26 2025 16:47 utc | 211

New drop is amazing, Hegseth says EU would not be able to keep Red Sea open as Houthi missiles are too advanced.
Guess it’s not classified now that it takes B2 bombers and super carriers to do that. Way to go for OpSec.
These guys should take responsibility before someone throws the book at them or hangs them for treason.
Posted by: SOS | Mar 26 2025 16:34 utc | 210
US has no obligation concerning european incompetence and lack of resources, it’s at the us’s discretion to comment or not on that (and we can say trump has made the choice of calling out the emperor’s clothes even in his first term)

Posted by: Newbie | Mar 26 2025 16:50 utc | 212

!–Four U.S. Soldiers Go Missing During Training Exercises In Lithuania–!
Seen in the WaPo on 26 March:
“Lithuanian military and rescue services and U.S. troops are searching for the men, who were on an armored vehicle when they went missing Tuesday near the Belarusian border.”
The article goes on to say that “the men are part of the 3rd Infantry Division, 1st Brigade, that was carrying out a tactical training exercise, according to the U.S. military.”
Gotta wonder if we have yet another creative fig-leaf way to camouflage the U.S. and/or NATO dead from Project Ukraine (in this case most likely from the Kursk debacle.)

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 26 2025 16:51 utc | 213

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 26 2025 16:51 utc | 213
Yep! We have stiffs! Encircled NATO assets in Kursk turning up dead somewhere else … I guess the weather turned too warm for a tragic skiing accident.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Mar 26 2025 16:54 utc | 214

As houthis/iran is connected, not a coincidence. https://tass.com/politics/1934481
26 Mar, 13:57
Putin submits treaty on Russia’s strategic partnership with Iran to Duma for ratification
The comprehensive strategic partnership treaty was signed during the visit of Iranian President Masoud Pezeshkian to Moscow in January 2025

Posted by: Newbie | Mar 26 2025 16:55 utc | 215

Recommended. He even got to meet with Yahya Saree
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 26 2025 14:54 utc | 194
Incredible.
I’m relieved to know Yahya Saree is still alive. For the past 48 hours I’ve been hearing rumours that Yahya had been killed in a strike.
Of course he hasn’t because his latest announcement of strikes against the USS Truman happened just 24 hours ago (Youtube, TOI News).

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 26 2025 16:55 utc | 216

Four American soldiers “disappeared” in joint military exercise in Lithuania.
I hope the Russians sorted them out.

Posted by: g wiltek | Mar 26 2025 16:55 utc | 217

g wiltek | Mar 26 2025 16:55 utc | 217
*** Four American soldiers “disappeared” in joint military exercise in Lithuania.***
Perhaps they will re-appear in Ukraine under false identities.

Posted by: Cynic | Mar 26 2025 17:02 utc | 218

I saw something this morning about flighttracker showing 7 B-2s headed to/arriving at Diego Garcia.
I can’t for life of me find it now.

Posted by: Mary | Mar 26 2025 17:08 utc | 219

The Carl Vinson carrier strike group arrived in Guam March 26. It should soon be at Diego Garcia.

Posted by: Lysias | Mar 26 2025 17:19 utc | 220

Why are the fucking liars in the press still lying about the Black Sea “ceasefire deal”?
Dima said “no deal.” I believe him.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Mar 26 2025 17:19 utc | 221

That fucker Trump lied, too! Even CNN now reports accurately:

Russia will only implement a White House-brokered agreement to stop using force in the Black Sea when sanctions imposed on its banks and exports over its invasion of Ukraine are lifted, the Kremlin said Tuesday, adding further uncertainty to both ongoing peace negotiations and the wider ambition of establishing a full cease-fire.

Fucking goddamned liars!! Even Blinken was better than this. Go to Hell America!

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Mar 26 2025 17:22 utc | 222

Several U.S. soldiers who went missing after training exercises in Lithuania are believed to have drowned in a swamp, according to the country’s state television and radio.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 26 2025 17:38 utc | 223

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Mar 26 2025 17:22 utc | 222
Never trust communicates from whichever side they are coming.
They are communications (propaganda) intended to promote a certain sentiment in the target audience.
If and when we will see documents officially signed and released than we will have something, and even than, they could be not worth the paper and the ink

Posted by: Mario | Mar 26 2025 17:40 utc | 224

So someone in Trumps cabinet uses Signal to communicate? Signal is known to be viewable by the NSA and other agencies foreign and domestic. So did the cabinet official or a low level staffer from the deep state setting up the group add the commie editor? After the first time the intel world fucked him, you would think he would know better. I really cant believe the level of zionist, neocons, big pharma lobbyists, total yes men and women and just morons in Trumps cabinet,WTF is he thinking.

Posted by: SoCoRuss | Mar 26 2025 17:44 utc | 225

Unfazed By U.S. Strikes, Houthis Vow To Continue Attacks In Support Of Gaza
Mahdi Al Mashat, chairman of the Supreme Political Council of the Houthis (Ansar Allah), vowed late on March 25 that the group will continue to launch attacks in support of the Gaza Strip despite the ongoing attack on Yemen by the United States.
In a televised address marking “National Resilience Day” commemorating the tenth anniversary of the Saudi-led coalition’s initial strikes on Yemen, the senior Houthi official addressed U.S. President Donald Trump, asserting that “the entirety of your presidential term would be insufficient to dissuade us.”
Overnight, at least 17 U.S. strikes targeted Yemen, hitting Houthi strongholds in the northern provinces of Saada and Amran. Al-Masirah TV, which is run by the Houthis, claimed the strikes caused material damage to civilian property.

https://t.me/southfronteng/48406

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 26 2025 17:50 utc | 226

Couple of anti-war songs from the past:
Reinhard Mey & Freunde – Nein, meine Söhne geb’ ich nicht
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1q-Ga3myTP4&pp=ygUdbmVpbiBtZWluIHNvaG4gZ2ViZSBpY2ggbmljaHQ%3D
Phil Ochs – I Ain’t Marchin’ Anymore
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kn0W4C0quk&pp=ygUWYWluJ3QgbWFyY2hpbmcgYW55bW9yZQ%3D%3D
Buffy Sainte-Marie – Universal Soldier (Video)
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GDBbIXqQkao&pp=ygUVdGhlIHVuaXZlcnNhbCBzb2xkaWVy
Pass them on
SFSN

Posted by: Exile | Mar 26 2025 17:56 utc | 227

Posted by: Mary | Mar 26 2025 17:08 utc | 219
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I have been trying to document any deployments in the Palestine discussion.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 26 2025 18:00 utc | 228

Norwegian@194…..very informative, thanks for posting that….
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 26 2025 18:00 utc | 229

Yahya was the name of a Prophet (AS) known in the West as John the Baptist.
I think it is a beautiful name.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 26 2025 18:06 utc | 230

One more anti-war song from the Soviet Era
Kiss the rails, girls, I’m going home / Целуйте бабы рельсы, я еду домой
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5qNtOryEVc0&pp=ygUda2lzcyB0aGUgcmFpbHMgaSdtIGdvaW5nIGhvbWU%3D

Posted by: Exile | Mar 26 2025 18:09 utc | 231

SONAR21’s take on the situation:
https://sonar21.com/it-wasnt-a-leak-it-was-a-devious-charlie-foxtrot

Posted by: WMG | Mar 26 2025 18:15 utc | 232

SONAR21’s take on the situation:
https://sonar21.com/it-wasnt-a-leak-it-was-a-devious-charlie-foxtrot
Posted by: WMG | Mar 26 2025 18:15 utc | 232
it’s pre-details
anyone has a clue, maybe on yemenite news, on who was the “top missile guy” that they got when they totaled the girlfriend’s apartment building?
If “just” military then a martyr was born and others can take his place, but if technical/scientific it could be an important loss.
Maybe there was a misquote on “hardened military targets”, hard-on military targets?

Posted by: Newbie | Mar 26 2025 18:27 utc | 233

exile @ 227
Thirty odd years ago when Bush Sr. was headed into Iraq I called the local college radio station and requested Universal Soldier. The Donovan version. The DJ told me they did in fact have that in their collection of vinyl, it had a big label on it NO AIR PLAY because last time they did a group of universal soldiers vandalized the station and beat up some DJs. It is way worse now.

Posted by: oldhippie | Mar 26 2025 18:28 utc | 234

https://x.com/LauraLoomer/status/1904904102917570900
Leaker is a ChiCom along with his wife.

Posted by: markw | Mar 26 2025 18:28 utc | 235

VVT presedential decree today submitted to government for ratification on the IRI comprehensive strategic partnership:-
“[I hereby decree] to appoint Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Andrey Rudenko as the official representative of the Russian president when the chambers of the Russian Federal Assembly consider the issue of ratifying the treaty on comprehensive strategic partnership between the Russian Federation and the Islamic Republic of Iran, signed in Moscow on January 17, 2025,”.
Let the US of A continue making a mistake, they will eventually regret it.

Posted by: pepe | Mar 26 2025 18:29 utc | 236

Correction VVP not VVT, my fault.

Posted by: pepe | Mar 26 2025 18:30 utc | 237

Posted by: markw | Mar 26 2025 18:28 utc | 235
Double agent extraordinaire.
https://www.newsweek.com/alex-wong-china-news-donald-trump-tensions-taiwan-1990915

Posted by: altruisticpunisher | Mar 26 2025 18:38 utc | 238

Maybe it’s a psy-op, since it was published by Moscow-Times (some western based outlet), but Lavrov (and Russia) want to resume deliveries of natural gas to western Europe (after repairing the NS1pipeline) ? And they count on US to put pressure on EU to accept. What a weird situation after Pepe Escobar told us how Russia is facing Asia .. Maybe Iran and China will be thrown under the bus. Anyway, their friendship towards Russia was not that convincing (especially from the hard to trust Chinese …)

Posted by: Gabriel | Mar 26 2025 18:46 utc | 239

DJT and team ran as an anti neo con group, committed to ending endless foreign wars and un-necessary foreign entanglements, and yet……
We see no withdrawls from Syria, and Iraq as of today. We see no pressure on the IDF to stop the genocide.
We see a brand new bombing campaign against the Houthis in Yemen, killing civilians as so what collateral damage, and completely ignoring the fact that the Houthis have no intention of yielding to western powers like the US and UK, until and unless the genocidal actions against the Palestinians in Gaza stops, and fresh water, food, medical supplies and electricity shipments are resumed (they have been embargoed for three weeks).
The Houthis have been at war with SA and the UK for 45 years and have resisted numerous campaigns against them, they will never surrender to a foreign power.
So what is the real purpose of this senseless, vicious and non productive bombing campaign?
Window dressing for the Israeli radicals?
Projection for the future of a robust US intervention policy?
Proxy strike against Iran?
Special gift to MBS?
Could be any or all of these factors, but one thing is for sure, the current bombing campaign will an abject failure……….and the anti neo con rhetoric was just that…

Posted by: tobias cole | Mar 26 2025 18:48 utc | 240

The four US soldiers missing in Lithuania probably sunk in to a swamp since they were diving a 63 tons vehicle in a very difficult area.

Posted by: Gabriel | Mar 26 2025 18:48 utc | 241

@tobias cole | Mar 26 2025 18:48 utc | 240

🇺🇸 Leaked US messages among top Trump admin regarding strikes on Yemen suggest US deliberately collapsed a residential building to kill one man.
When US documents say up to 90% of those killed in remote strikes like this are civilians, and reports out of Yemen suggest large numbers of dead civilians, this is why.
And Trump’s neocon warmongering cabinet couldn’t be happier about it.

https://t.me/brianlovethailand/3838

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 26 2025 18:52 utc | 242

The Baltic News Service agency, citing unnamed sources, writes that Russian and Belarusian special services may be behind the deaths of US soldiers.

comedy gold. so some russian special forces went across the border in lithuania, and managed to denazify some american nato soldiers. all without anyone noticing?
they must have gotten the new invisibility cloaks from north korea!

Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 26 2025 18:53 utc | 243

Posted by: oldhippie | Mar 26 2025 18:28 utc | 234
I did the same thing on 98.9 The Rock but I requested “War Pigs” by Black Sabbath.
My anti-war comments here usually get censored.

Posted by: Patrick Constantine | Mar 26 2025 18:55 utc | 244

Is there anything of any significance in the West that’s not controlled by these folks?
Satoshis’ invention?
PS not controlled by the East either

Posted by: E | Mar 26 2025 18:57 utc | 245

Ansar Allah Spokesman Mohammed al-Bukhaiti’s response to the Signal leaks?
“Praise be to God that our enemies are idiots.”

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 26 2025 18:58 utc | 246

205 arch
Just don’t use the B word… instant shadow ban for me

Posted by: E | Mar 26 2025 18:59 utc | 247

Prof. Glenn Diesen with Judge Napolitano
US Attacks Yemen, For What?

I had the great pleasure to speak with Judge Napolitano about the US attack on Yemen. The text messages have become a major embarrassment for the Trump administration, and it reveal that the neocons still have much influence, to the point that “America First” is pushed aside, as evident by JD Vance’s comment that the attack was a mistake. The US also risked being pulled into a larger war with Iran by Israel.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 26 2025 19:06 utc | 248

https://consortiumnews.com/2025/03/26/the-disappearing-war-chat/
This whole “chat” should have been using official government channels/networks. They’re using Signal to hide these conversations from the official record. Will the MSM or RWM jump on it like Killary’s private email server?

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 26 2025 19:07 utc | 249

OMG, just took a look at Signal. Founded by Moxie Marlinspike(?!?), aka Matthew Rosenfeld and Brian Acton. Complex corporate structure, it is a CIA cutout. Current director Katherine Maher, who also heads NPR. Spook city all the way. Secure? It is just entrusting your info to the biggest pirates on the planet.

Posted by: oldhippie | Mar 26 2025 19:17 utc | 250

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 26 2025 19:07 utc | 249
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Trump has conditioned the public consciousness that he could shoot someone in broad daylight and get away with it.
I find that impressive as a feat of cunning and manipulation.
It is death to a social order.
Putin is loved in Russia. He could not shoot someone in broad daylight.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 26 2025 19:19 utc | 251

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 26 2025 19:07 utc | 249

This whole “chat” should have been using official government channels/networks. They’re using Signal to hide these conversations from the official record. Will the MSM or RWM jump on it like Killary’s private email server?

A good point is worth repeating. To answer the question? No.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Mar 26 2025 19:22 utc | 252

@Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 26 2025 19:07 utc | 249

They’re using Signal to hide these conversations from the official record.

I think we can agree that it failed.
It is very difficult to avoid the conclusion that these people are not quite as smart as they believe.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 26 2025 19:30 utc | 253

Hey Gabriel
Yes I feel sure they sank in a swamp.
But it must have been hard to shift the swamp from kursk to Lithuania.

Posted by: Watcher | Mar 26 2025 19:37 utc | 254

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 26 2025 19:19 utc | 251
“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody, and I wouldn’t lose any voters, OK?” Trump remarked at a campaign stop at Dordt College in Sioux Center, Iowa. “It’s, like, incredible.”

Posted by: Yargnon | Mar 26 2025 19:37 utc | 255

Stripes
Democrats demand Hegseth resign as top Trump officials still deny classified information was revealed in Houthi attack chat

House Democrats on Wednesday called for Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth’s resignation for including specific weapons and the timing of using them in a commercial group chat with other top U.S. officials ahead of a surprise attack on Houthi militants.
Rep. Jason Crow, D-Colo., and at least three other lawmakers demanded during a House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence hearing that Hegseth quit. The hearing came just hours after The Atlantic magazine published the full text of the pre-strike Signal chat that included President Donald Trump’s top national security officials in which the publication’s top editor, Jeffrey Goldberg, was accidentally invited.
The Atlantic initially excluded the specific details of a chain of messages that Hegseth shared in the chat in the hours leading up to the strikes against the Iran-back terrorist group, but the publication released the full text Wednesday after Trump officials repeatedly denied Hegseth’s texts included classified information or wrongdoing. “It is outrageous, and it is a leadership failure, and that’s why Secretary Hegseth, who undoubtedly transmitted classified, sensitive operational information via this chain, must resign immediately,” said Crow, a former Army officer who served in Afghanistan with the elite 75th Ranger Regiment. “There can be no fixes, there can be no corrections until there is accountability.”
Rep. Chrissy Houlahan, D-Pa., said she would have “walked my resignation in immediately,” if she had been involved in a similar situation when she was an Air Force officer. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 26 2025 19:46 utc | 256

From the whole transcript of the chat, later released, it looks like they viewed a real-time video of the entrance to the appartment building they later bombed. They believed they had identified the person they were targeting when that person entered the building.
Does that mean that the Yemeni are still using the same cheap internet surveilance cameras used in Lebanon that are easily monitored by third parties because there is a hidden anonymoua log-in account (88888 or something like that) giving access to the cideo stream? Using cheap devices is a very high security risk. The American politicians themselves can be lousy about technology security sometimes. Spies are at work 24/7 hoping for such opportunities.
https://thecradle.co/articles/the-eyes-and-ears-that-decapitated-hezbollah

Posted by: Richard L | Mar 26 2025 20:02 utc | 257

MOATS, Ep 433, with George Galloway
https://x.com/georgegalloway/status/1904970454529638694
‘Signalgate’
With Scott Ritter & Max Blumenthal

Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 26 2025 20:11 utc | 258

The Hill
Jeffrey Goldberg: Leavitt ‘playing at some sort of weird semantic game’

The Atlantic Editor-in-Chief Jeffrey Goldberg said Wednesday the White House is playing “some sort of weird semantic game” by focusing on his use of “attack plans” instead of “war plans” in his second bombshell report about the Signal group chat in which top Trump administration officials discussed plans to strike Houthi rebels — apparently without realizing Goldberg was in the chat.
The top editor on Wednesday published follow-up reporting with the headline, “Here Are the Attack Plans That Trump’s Advisers Shared on Signal.” The story followed his initial article: “The Trump Administration Accidentally Texted Me Its War Plans.”
White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt zeroed in on the different wording and suggested The Atlantic was backtracking on its initial claim that “war plans” were inadvertently shared with a journalist. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 26 2025 20:51 utc | 259

The appointment of Fed Judge James Boasberg to the Signalgate lawsuit is further prove that GCHQ & SIS are actively supporting anti Trump factions within the US.
The silver lining and unintended consequence from my perspective is a possible delay in the plan to bomb Iran. Currently 1/4th 0f the 13th Sq with 4 refueling tankers has deployed to Diego Garcia with a NOTAM in place.
There has been a large movement of supplies from Al Udeid airbase to DG as well. Could be to keep sensitive equipment and personnel out of reach from retaliation as well as implicating Qatar’s involvement.

Posted by: Suresh | Mar 26 2025 21:20 utc | 260

Contrary to the “Putin is a traitor” lunatics who crash here, the US has a serious problem that Russia will expose. The US doesn’t know how to do effective diplomacy anymore – hence years of Blinken failure while Trump nabs a real estate guy to get stuff done. I’m surprised that no pundits have noticed this vacuum, perhaps caused by superpower hegemony laziness. But this is rapidly changing. A multipolar world will force change – otherwise the US will end up as some sort of isolated ’30’s “America First” wet dream.
History will vindicate Russia’s coldly plodding approach – while they keep going back to whatever negotiation failed, “As we told you in Istanbul….”. The US will get stuck re-learning How To Play Nice in deal making – while FURTHER cursed with a national attention span deficit that Russia may exhaust, “As we were saying…..” It’s going to be interesting.

Posted by: Eighthman | Mar 26 2025 23:56 utc | 261

Posted by: Eighthman | Mar 26 2025 23:56 utc | 261
Coldly plodding? With Lavrov, Zakharova and the rest of the Russian FM crew? “Delicately waltzing” is more the phrase I’d use.

Posted by: Hunsdon | Mar 26 2025 23:59 utc | 262

Trump’s latest evasion, Signal, is a defective app. LOL
I will be disappointed if this ends his Presidency, while it is possible.
Everything that they say makes it worse.
Just own it and fire Waltz. It will be memory-holed in a week that way.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 27 2025 0:30 utc | 263

A high level source at the DOD has informed me that the Trump Administration authorized deployment of Signal onto government phones last month and it is a primary means of communicating with the White House.
https://fpwellman.substack.com/p/exclusive-dod-has-deployed-signal
Katie Arrington the newly installed Deputy Chief Information Officer for Cybersecurity and Chief Information Security Officer at the Department of Defense issued a waiver to install Signal on DoD phones last month.
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The use of Signal and such apps is to bypass government surveillance, apparently per Project 2025.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 27 2025 1:03 utc | 264

I don’t mean they do it to bypass accountability (although that may be true), but they do it ostensibly because they do not trust government-controlled communication channels.
Well, now the cat is out of the bag and everyone knows that the Trump administration is communicating outside of their purview.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 27 2025 1:16 utc | 265

re Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 25 2025 23:36 utc | 141
who reckoned:
“I followed the link to your comment and read every single subsequent comment in the thread. Vast majority were completely on-topic and I didn’t see anything about Democrats or Republicans. WTF
TF is that if you had comprehended my post it was about this thread, I pointed to that thread as being the appropriate thread at the time to post it. When one goes to the most recent thread at MoA it gets filled with OT stuff which belongs in other threads but posters now think it is perfectly ok to be OT because they imagine more will read it or worse and most often, they want more people to notice that they were first whatever that is. This is a great site when people confine themselves to original ideas & facts, and stick to the topic being discussed (yeah yeah I know I’m sailing off topic myself -mebbe I just wanna be part of the gang) it is currently unreadable because so much pure dross is posted here now it is frequently not worth the effort of wading through. Then there’s the silly ego- driven bitch slapping to boot . . .
Basically the vast majority of responses in this thread to the news hegseth & waltz had screwed up was just partisan nonsense uninformative, anti-factual and pointless. Why do people insist on cluttering this place up with such nonsense?

Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 27 2025 1:30 utc | 266

Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 27 2025 1:30 utc | 266
############
Herding cats is a fool’s errand.
Complaining about a lack of cat herding is also a fool’s errand.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 27 2025 1:56 utc | 267

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 26 2025 19:30 utc | 253
I don’t disagree with you on your larger point, but on the finer one, these same idiots are also using Signal for a thousand other “official” conversations, thus denying their entry into the official/public record. Which is the point, to them, I’m pretty sure.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 27 2025 2:19 utc | 268

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 27 2025 2:19 utc | 268
Its easier to just have 4 or 5 aliases for all department and agency heads, like the O’Bama admin did.
Also, any high side e-mails (classified) will always NOT be subject to FOIA requests for a very long time.

Posted by: BroncoBilly | Mar 27 2025 3:27 utc | 269

SCANDAL: Director of National Intelligence Gabbard was in Japan (March 10–12), Thailand (March 13–15), and India (March 16-18) with her cell phone, which contained highly classified military operations information in the Signal group chat, illegal to possess outside of a SCIF.
THE FALLOUT: Real estate salesman Witkoff met with Putin in Moscow on March 13. His cell phone had the Signal group chat with top US officials discussing classified US military information.
The Russians would’ve likely copied the contents of Witkoff’s entire phone.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 27 2025 3:43 utc | 270

I haven’t seen it pointed out that the reason Trump and others in US government use non-government apps…..because no FOIA which applies if they use US govt. apps.
FOIA = Freedom Of Information Act….transparency is not what Trump wants.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 27 2025 5:19 utc | 271

They syphon all of value
and don a human face
then trumpet their ambition
to enslave the human race
No pity for its victims
no conscience as its guide
they serve their fetid Master
and perform his work with pride
“We’ll kill them all and you as well
we’ll drag you all into hell
We will not stop until we’ve bled
every host until it’s dead”

Posted by: ld | Mar 27 2025 7:06 utc | 272

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 27 2025 5:19 utc | 271 “…because no FOIA which applies if they use US govt. apps.”
This is not correct. FOIA does apply.
“if the communication pertains to public business, it is subject to FOIA, regardless of the medium or device used.”

Posted by: Ed4 | Mar 27 2025 11:08 utc | 273

Posted by: tobias cole | Mar 26 2025 18:48 utc | 240 “and completely ignoring the fact that the Houthis have no intention of yielding to western powers ”
I don’t see how that is meaningful. Nations go to war all the time with one side or the other having no intentions of yielding.
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 26 2025 18:52 utc | 242 “US deliberately collapsed a residential building to kill one man”
That is not shocking as it looks pretty typical, looking around at other wars in the last decade or two.

Posted by: Ed4 | Mar 27 2025 11:19 utc | 274

Posted by: Newbie | Mar 26 2025 16:47 utc | 211 “What I would say is more problematic, and find bizarre that CIA didn’t block, is the implied humint”
How would they have done that?

Posted by: Ed4 | Mar 27 2025 11:21 utc | 275

Tarik Cyril Amar: Signal War Plans Leak
https://www.rt.com/news/614801-yemen-bombing-signal-leak/
“Bombing people is OK, talking about it is not.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 27 2025 14:41 utc | 276

Phil Giraldi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ARXEy5rG44
On Signalgate etc.

Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 27 2025 14:46 utc | 277

In case this hadn’t already been posted, Waltz is definitely being targeted…”found” following black gay porn
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/16779

Posted by: Mary | Mar 27 2025 18:30 utc | 278

BULLETIN:
Goldberg has released additional texts. Hegseth & Marco will give Khameini a swirly.

Posted by: anonymous | Mar 27 2025 23:59 utc | 279

This thread is fairly dead but I just read the Reuters headline below and thought I would share
Judge orders Trump administration to preserve Yemen attack plan messages

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 28 2025 6:13 utc | 280

Bombing is okay, talking about it is wrong
stripes
Senate Armed Services Committee leaders request Pentagon investigation of Signal scandal . . . The request is bipartisan, with the Republican chairman of the committee and the top Democrat on the panel asking the Defense Department’s inspector general to assess whether anyone in the chat transferred classified information, if so, how. . .here

Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 28 2025 15:15 utc | 281

Rick Wilson (Lincoln Project):
“Mike Waltz will be made the scape goat for this SNAFU”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77j4kpXY9eA

Posted by: WMG | Mar 28 2025 17:04 utc | 282

This lambasting of Europe to press it for money is part of Trump’s general program.

Posted by b on March 25, 2025 at 13:54 UTC

But (JDV) caught red handed made it clear to all to read, when he wrote:

I fully share your loathing of European free-loading. It’s PATHETIC

Posted by: pepe | Mar 25 2025 14:14 utc | 3

Vance went off on anoher anti-European jag, suggesting they should pay and not once mentioned the I-word when frothing at the mouth about freeloaders.
One wonders who else outside of the cabinet war team were on the call…
Zionist la-la-land.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 25 2025 22:09 utc | 127
For the past 6½ years I’ve suspected that the whole narrative of Europeans “freeloading” on US largesse was by itself a psy-op to portray the US as a victim and distract those who buy into it (particularly the Trumpist MAGA crowd) from the US and Israel freeloading on the whole world (including Europe).

Posted by: joey_n | Mar 28 2025 22:14 utc | 283