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March 25, 2025
Was This ‘Leak’ Accidental Or Is It Pro-War Psyops?

There are several curious aspects of this 'leak' of internal communication of high ranking members of the Trump administration:

Top national security officials for President Donald Trump, including his defense secretary, texted war plans for upcoming military strikes in Yemen to a group chat in a secure messaging app that included the editor-in-chief for The Atlantic, the magazine reported in a story posted online Monday. The National Security Council said the text chain “appears to be authentic.”

The material in the text chain “contained operational details of forthcoming strikes on Iran-backed Houthi-rebels in Yemen, including information about targets, weapons the U.S. would be deploying, and attack sequencing,” editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg reported.

The Atlantic is the worst magazine in America. Its editor in chief, ..

.. Jeffrey Goldberg, dropped out of an Ivy League University to volunteer to be an IDF prison guard during the first Palestinian Intifada. In his memoirs, Goldberg revealed that he helped cover up serious prisoner abuse.

Goldberg is a neo-conservative who has yet to see a U.S. instigated war he dislikes. To trust his reporting is dangerous.

Here is how he tells the story:

On Tuesday, March 11, I received a connection request on Signal from a user identified as Michael Waltz. Signal is an open-source encrypted messaging service popular with journalists and others who seek more privacy than other text-messaging services are capable of delivering. I assumed that the Michael Waltz in question was President Donald Trump’s national security adviser.

I accepted the connection request, hoping that this was the actual national security adviser, and that he wanted to chat about Ukraine, or Iran, or some other important matter.

Two days later—Thursday—at 4:28 p.m., I received a notice that I was to be included in a Signal chat group. It was called the “Houthi PC small group.”

At 8:05 a.m. on Friday, March 14, “Michael Waltz” texted the group: “Team, you should have a statement of conclusions with taskings per the Presidents guidance this morning in your high side inboxes.” (High side, in government parlance, refers to classified computer and communications systems.)

At this point, a fascinating policy discussion commenced. The account labeled “JD Vance” responded at 8:16: “Team, I am out for the day doing an economic event in Michigan. But I think we are making a mistake.” (Vance was indeed in Michigan that day.) The Vance account goes on to state, “3 percent of US trade runs through the suez. 40 percent of European trade does. There is a real risk that the public doesn’t understand this or why it’s necessary. The strongest reason to do this is, as POTUS said, to send a message.”

During the discussion CIA head John Ratcliff, Secretary of Defense Hegseth and the deputy White House chief of staff Stephen Miller join in. Despite the reluctance of Vance the bombing campaign in Yemen is ready to go:

At 11:44 a.m., the account labeled “Pete Hegseth” posted in Signal a “TEAM UPDATE.” I will not quote from this update, or from certain other subsequent texts. The information contained in them, if they had been read by an adversary of the United States, could conceivably have been used to harm American military and intelligence personnel, particularly in the broader Middle East, Central Command’s area of responsibility. What I will say, in order to illustrate the shocking recklessness of this Signal conversation, is that the Hegseth post contained operational details of forthcoming strikes on Yemen, including information about targets, weapons the U.S. would be deploying, and attack sequencing.

According to the lengthy Hegseth text, the first detonations in Yemen would be felt two hours hence, at 1:45 p.m. eastern time. So I waited in my car in a supermarket parking lot. If this Signal chat was real, I reasoned, Houthi targets would soon be bombed. At about 1:55, I checked X and searched Yemen. Explosions were then being heard across Sanaa, the capital city.

I went back to the Signal channel. At 1:48, “Michael Waltz” had provided the group an update. Again, I won’t quote from this text, except to note that he described the operation as an “amazing job.” A few minutes later, “John Ratcliffe” wrote, “A good start.” Not long after, Waltz responded with three emoji: a fist, an American flag, and fire. Others soon joined in, including “MAR,” who wrote, “Good Job Pete and your team!!,” and “Susie Wiles,” who texted, “Kudos to all – most particularly those in theater and CENTCOM! Really great. God bless.” “Steve Witkoff” responded with five emoji: two hands-praying, a flexed bicep, and two American flags. “TG” responded, “Great work and effects!” The after-action discussion included assessments of damage done, including the likely death of a specific individual. The Houthi-run Yemeni health ministry reported that at least 53 people were killed in the strikes, a number that has not been independently verified.

The juvenile behavior of the participants all but confirms that the characters are genuine.

It however leaves many questions:

Why did Michael Waltz, a former advisor to Dick Cheney, seek to add war-pimp and anti-Trumper Jeffrey Goldberg to his contact list? What did he plan to leak to him?

Signal is an encrypted chat application which, until recently, was financed by the U.S. government. That is in itself a good reason to not trust it. There have also been reports that several foreign entities are trying to crack it. Why would high administration officials, who have access to more secure communication systems, use Signal to chat with each other?

Why are Vance and others implying that 'freedom of navigation' in the Red Sea is for the good of Europe and that it should pay for it? That framing does not fit.

The reason for the Houthi blockade of the Red Sea is the Zionist genocide in Gaza. Israel is the country most hurt by the stop of sea traffic to its harbors. The closure of the Red Sea has increased ocean transport cost for a container from $2,000 to $8,000 for everyone, including the U.S., because the transport around Africa takes longer and has led to a shortage of container ships.

This lambasting of Europe to press it for money is part of Trump's general program. To 'leak' this as part of a chat, which hardly mentions Israel or Gaza, is reinforcing that message. This is the main reason why I find this 'leak' suspicious.

The use of Signal and the sending of confidential war plans over it of course a breach of several laws and regulations.

There are rumors that national security advisor Waltz will be punished for this. But I do not expect any firing or other consequences from it.

Comments

Works by continental nineteenth-century philosophers are tediously (and unconvincingly) quoted on MOA as if delivered to Moses.
Posted by: horseguards | Mar 25 2025 18:41 utc | 97
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To say nothing of a certain twentieth-century Nazi philosopher who seems to be a regular guest at the Knights of Columbus meetings and on the Sprockets episodes on this site.

Posted by: malenkov | Mar 25 2025 19:10 utc | 101

The US is straight across the Pacific Ocean from China… How much Cargo goes through the red sea from China to Europe? I don’t think what Vance said was that bad. If this is true it speaks well of Vance actually. He is expressing dissatisfaction with taking military actions against Yemen. Good for him… not sure if it is true though. Goldberg and the Atlantic are anti Trump.

Posted by: goldhoarder | Mar 25 2025 19:12 utc | 102

Posted by: Belle | Mar 25 2025 18:49 utc | 99
Trouble with that loaded phrase is that it’s often seen as dual use.

Posted by: Milites | Mar 25 2025 19:13 utc | 103

Regarding the mechanisms of Zionist influence over the US government:
It won’t do to label all the government leaders here, both past and present, as dyed-in-the-wool Zionists. Zionism is a very aggressive foreign nationalist ideology whose program and interests are not and have never been those of the United States but which instrumentalizes its US Jewish followers and Jewish history to work their influence on its behalf. In the past, this worked better because Zionism did not cost much and for the most part the US was not paying for what it did cost, but now the cost is going up, and the damage it wreaks and further threatens to wreak on the US is immense.
Over a long period, Zionism has tried to persuade the US public at large about what an excellent project it is, and it has successfully bamboozled a considerable part of the public to genuinely support it, in the false belief of its benevolence. This is sadly particularly true of so-called Christian Zionists. Many of them may actually believe that Zionists are faultless angels. However, there is also another subtext of antisemitism, with Christian Zionists seeing Zionism as a way to get rid of the Jews from their midst by having them go to Palestine.
In the US elite, however, long dealing with the Middle East has made those not subscribing to Zionist nationalism less convinced about the goodness of the Zionist project, and the extremely heavy-handed Zionist enforcement methods lodged against any and all who don’t toe the Zionist line 100% certainly is an alienating experience. So I think that the explanation of the nearly universal support for Israel in the Congress and elsewhere has less to do with any actual commitment to an alien nationalism than it has to do with fear of being expelled from the ruling elite for stepping out of line. The lack of actual enthusiasm for Zionism is palpable, especially now, and is shown by the preferred silence over Israel, apart from the required, vague, generic statements of support. So it is a result much more of Zionist pressure than of any love for Israel.
Given a national entity on the scale of the US, it is absolutely impossible that there are not many persons in the elite who think ill of Israel. This is because an elite hardly like to be dictated to by outsiders with different interests, because the threat constantly implicit in the everpresence of Zionist enforcers and minders is obviously oppressive and insulting, and also because prognostications about the future show Zionism leading the US to disaster in the Middle East and elsewhere. But while reflecting on these facts, the non-Zionist elite also remember that the Zionists are so closely interwoven into the elite themselves that ripping them out would be a gigantic and most dangerous undertaking which might well not only bring down the US constitutional regime but destroy the country itself.
Most likely, even Trump is strongly aware of all of this, and, being imperious, does not like Zionism. Indeed, an anti-Zionist Jewish professor I know has stated “Trump hates Netanyahu,” and how could he not? But Trump is also not anything if not carefully calculating and sneaky, and he may well just have calculated, “One thing at a time, and the Zionists are too hard to take down, so I will just have to go along with them until something turns up,” something which unfortunately may never turn up, or not soon anyway.
As for Vance, at least he protested against the bombing of Yemen, even if not for the right ethical reasons. That he spoke up at all is a good sign that he might not just be a puppet of the Zionists and the neocon imperialists in office. Nor does the leak seem to me to damage him at all; rather, it redounds to his favor, although most of the others just look like neocon fellow travelers.
Finally, @ Ahenobarbus | Mar 25 2025 15:18 utc | 34 : You are one of my favorite commentators here, and one whom I most often agree with. Your comments on Vance here are similar to my own thoughts. But I also think, as you do, that real change in the US will require quite a revolution and that that will come eventually, inevitably, as pressures build up from various causes. Unfortunately, that is also likely to become quite a bloody mess, so God help us.

Posted by: Cabe | Mar 25 2025 19:19 utc | 104

Newbie @ 29
I’m not getting busy and doing a refresher on all the scandal Goldberg has been involved in. He’s just plain low. The Atlantic is going beneath the waves. He’s who you would pick to front the story only if you wanted one and all to disbelieve.
Even since my comment above I’m having trouble with no one involved had a staffer who said wait a minute, Signal?

Posted by: oldhippie | Mar 25 2025 19:22 utc | 105

Posted by: john brewster | Mar 25 2025 16:19 utc | 57
Hear Hear, regarding Canuck and his self-appointed role as arbiter of arguments. His arrogance and perpetual rudeness to posters who don’t share his simplisitc world-view, doesn’t compensate for his ignorance.

Posted by: Vragtes | Mar 25 2025 19:31 utc | 106

he aims to take US control of rare earth mining in the Ukraine, and also of the Ukraine’s nuclear power generating assets. A shot at taking over the port of Odessa can be expected to follow.
Posted by: freedom fritos | Mar 25 2025 14:59 utc | 18
Yes, everything is copy/paste from Syria but here there’s much more, Putin also offered many resources last month. Did it while getting bombed by them
“We would be happy to cooperate with any foreign partners, including American companies.
The same is true for the new territories: we are open to foreign partnerships. Our historical territories that have become part of the Russian Federation again also hold certain reserves. We are ready to work there with international partners, including Americans”

( en.interaffairs.ru/article/vladimir-putin-in-order-to-resolve-challenging-and-urgent-matters-including-on-the-ukrainian-trac/ )

Posted by: rk | Mar 25 2025 19:33 utc | 107

“It seems to have been important to spin this as being done on behalf of Europe, instead of israel (on whose behalf this is really being conducted).”
Is there anyone who would believe that?

Posted by: Fred777 | Mar 25 2025 19:35 utc | 108

It may well be, like b suggests, that the story is planted rather than leaked. As he also says, the Atlantic is one of the very worst publication in the world and Goldberg is *not* honest.
The whole story smells of Israel.

Posted by: Avtonom | Mar 25 2025 19:38 utc | 109

@Fred777 | Mar 25 2025 19:35 utc | 108
Those who want to project their guilt away have no issues believing it.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 25 2025 19:41 utc | 110

@Avtonom | Mar 25 2025 19:38 utc | 109

The whole story smells of Israel.

Maybe, but the US bombing of civilian targets in Yemen happened, and THAT is the scandal.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 25 2025 19:43 utc | 111

Psyop
Presented:
Delinquent estate agents and juvenile mil trying to build a parking lot with a pier in a desert somewhere.
Reality:
Decades long multinational geopolitical ambitions aimed at maintaining and reshaping global hegemony by whatever means available.
I think we know which one people talk and think about.
Another example
“La Comisión apoyará a los Estados miembros en el logro de una autosuficiencia poblacional de al menos 72 horas en toda la Unión Europea. En caso de interrupciones extremas, las autoridades públicas podrían no ser capaces de cubrir las necesidades básicas de toda la población durante el período inicial de una crisis. ” ElMundo
i.e. everyone in europe needs to be self sufficient for three days in case the state is not able to supply them with their necessities.
Meaning “Population, you are currently dependent on us, or soon will be.”
The joke: Three days supplies to maintain a comfort zone.
The reality: Something about North Koreans.
The list of this kind of manipulation is…endless.

Posted by: Ornot | Mar 25 2025 19:47 utc | 112

Love Donbass @ 1, Otto Penn @ 32:
Gal Gadot used to pose as a pin-up girl in recruitment cheesecake posters for the IDF. She still supports the IDF as well.
Cinemas in Lebanon and other parts of the Middle East refused to screen the Wonder Woman film when it was released in 2017.

Posted by: Refinnejenna | Mar 25 2025 20:15 utc | 113

LIHOP?
The patsy was easy to deal with. Depending on when and how much information he released, they could nail him.
The real targets were the Europeans (GCHQ), who were guaranteed to be listening in by virtue of the 5 Eyes programme.
But in my opinion, this is all misdirection from the real STORY.
THE QUIET SURRENDER (coined by Gerry Nolan @ Islander News) re Riyadh “talks”.
He highlights one Michael Anton as a pivotal figure on the US team.

Posted by: Suresh | Mar 25 2025 20:23 utc | 114

“The closure of the Red Sea has increased ocean transport cost for a container from $2,000 to $8,000 for everyone, including the U.S., because the transport around Africa takes longer and has led to a shortage of container ships.”
You aint seen nothing yet B. 🙂 When Hormuz closes bunker oil will become unobtanium, scarce as whale oil. The only thing that has allowed the transit workaround is inexpensive energy. But at least closing Hormuz will partially solve the Cape workaround issue. There will be no energy heading to Europe going around the cape. 🙂 Humor aside there will be no energy for a conventional war either but enough left for nuclear war.
Speaking of sending messages. Iran has tried to send one with this teeny tiny Red sea transit cessation in the most nonthreatening and mild manner possible. No one is listening. They appear to be too ignorant to realize the implications. Alternately the obvious outcome is desired.
If nuclear weapons have not been used it will be demanded that they are used if Hormuz closes. Thats 100% guaranteed. Carter doctrine but if it didnt exist it wouldnt matter. Nukes fly when Hormuz closes. All known by Iran of course. The real moment of understanding is when nuclear weapons fail to end the measures Iran has put into place to stop transit through Hormuz. Closing Hormuz and keeping it closed has been the primary focus of Iran military for a long time. Its a no brainer. Irans geophysical location means any fight starts with their blade on the worlds artery. That inherent destructive capability has has pluses and minuses. They may not want to take that action but when there is a big nail there and all you have is a hammer… Hard to escape your destiny. if you want to end the world however Iran is the solution. Push them past their limits and its done. Iran “sending a message” West “tell it to the hand”.
The shipping lanes through Hormuz are incredibly tight. Not that it would matter if they were much wider. The three most powerful things in the world are suddenly rendered moot. Nuclear weapons, the dollar, and supply chains. Along with industrial civilization and most of us humans. The power holders will be unable to cope of course and expend nuclear arsenals until they are no longer able. The chain effects from energy transit cessation are a very very simple reaction. Much simpler than many complex reactions that we take for granted. Energy is to industrial civilization what oxygen is to a human body. When it ceases things happen.

Posted by: LosBanos | Mar 25 2025 20:25 utc | 115

‘European freeloaders’ please, pass the meme and repeat as often as possible.
Best wage to prepare the populace fora withdrawal from Ukraine and later on, from NATO.
The EU does not have two pennies to rub together.

Posted by: accohengst@gmail.com | Mar 25 2025 20:41 utc | 116


To reiterate what you’ve already said so well: Corporate media has transamogrified civilians into “legitimate targets”, and “human shields”. When Humpy Dumpty uses a word it’s meaning is that which Humpty Dumpty says it is!
Is the corporate media Humpty Dumpty? You decide!

Posted by: Ben Trovata | Mar 25 2025 20:42 utc | 117

O/T
The “Hilly Billy schtick’ is being played to the hilt by the Trump team.
Make no mistake this is no “Mr Magoo” act, more “Columbo” type on purpose ineptitude.
This administration is way more dangerous than the easily read “Weekend at Bernies” crowd for the anti-Empire majority.
That MAGA statement should be viewed as serious (and deadly) intent.

Posted by: Suresh | Mar 25 2025 20:59 utc | 118

https://thegrayzone.com/2025/03/25/jeffrey-goldberg-bomb-yemen-signal/
Pro-war psyops obviously. Any credible journalist would have stayed in the chat and documented it. Goldberg was instrumental in selling the Iraq invasion to his liberal audience and lauded by Dick Cheney for propagating the lies.
Anything Goldberg touches is automatically psyop garbage.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 25 2025 21:06 utc | 119

And “Signal”? I thought the US gov. wanted to ban Signal because they couldn’t break the encryption?
I can spot a Mossad op a mile away.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 25 2025 15:48 utc | 45

Presumably this alleged uncrackability is why they thought it safe to use.
However, just because the US govt can’t crack it doesn’t mean anybody else can, and of course if there were no NSA backdoors, the govt would shut it down.
Signal came out of Redphone, which was snapped up by Zuckerborg, shutdown and then later released as an ipen source app. I suspect it was weakened during that time and there have been very few cases of Signal being coerced into divulging information about the alleged criminal activities of its users.
All of which would indicate that it is already compromised.
If it is compromised, as Chas Freeman pointed out, probably the Chinese, Russians, Brits and Israelis were listening in so it doesn’t really matter if they patched in the wrong Goldberg/stein/mann/kin.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 25 2025 21:17 utc | 120

Before jumping to any firm conclusions I’d wait 48-72 hours, similar to the recommended breathing space given to stories from Ukraine, to filter the breathless initial reporting from the likely reality.
Posted by: Milites | Mar 25 2025 18:40 utc | 96
Always a good idea, I started by pointing out scenarios and then updating on what is said by those involved (and closing old or opening new hypothesis)

Posted by: Newbie | Mar 25 2025 21:28 utc | 121

LosBanos | Mar 25 2025 20:25 utc | 115
Wrong logic. Iran is linked to Brics club now. Brics does not like trade problems and they will never allow anyone to upset Bibi or respond to attacks from US. Brics does not like Yemen either, even though their ships can pass. Their speeches at Un are very bad towards Yemen. Brics heroes unanimously extended UN sanctions for Yemen for another year. Iran isn’t going to do anything, they have no allies, no money and nothing to shoot down the 7 B2 Trumpy has prepared for Yemen. They’ve also seen Russia with thousands of nukes get bombed all day long directly by Us and Nato and begging for surrender but still not selling them a single plane

Posted by: rk | Mar 25 2025 21:42 utc | 122

Anything Goldberg touches is automatically psyop garbage.
@ Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 25 2025 21:06 utc | 119

Incidentally, Jeffrey Goldberg features prominently (as an antihero) in Ta-nehisi Coates’ seminal Palestine-centered memoir The Message. I never liked his writing much until this little book, where he does something highly unusual these days: he admits his previous work has been offensively wrong-headed, because he lacked a clear idea of where he was headed.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/ta-nehisi-coates-new-book-message-israel-palestine-complicated.html
If folks could merely un-jam to jump the rut, admit failure and start over, then there might be some hope for this old world. But human beings are a stiff-necked people…

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 25 2025 21:43 utc | 123

When I posted about this yesterday it was in the Palestine thread, not the current ‘popular’ thread as so many do, posting off topic shit continuously as some type of attention seeking.
That was because I wanted to draw attention to the casual attitude towards slaughter of other humans that has been prevalent among amerikan politicians for as long as the joint (amerika) has existed and believed that discussion should center on that.
Instead making it headline news in here caused a bunch of self-important wannabes to blather meaningless uninformed shit at each other according to whether they are closet dims or closet repugs who don’t seem to give a flying fuck about their fellow humans – point scoring against another self-important wannabe on the other side is a much more vital outcome for them.
I hope the posters eventually realise exactly how unreadable their posts make MoA.
They don’t read anything posted by anyone else seriously, rather they spend their time picking holes on opposing superficial non-issues which have been spouted by ‘the other side’.
Any points raised are tiresome and because posts are so biased and speculative, totally uninformative.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 25 2025 22:00 utc | 124

So the reporting is in this magazine:
MARCH 5, 2025 – “Russia is not winning”.
https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2025/03/ukraine-russia-war-position/681916/
“Russia will control all of Ukraine in about 118 years. Keep that figure in mind when you hear President Donald Trump or Vice President J. D. Vance declare, as Trump did last week at their Oval Office meeting with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, that Ukraine is “not winning” the war and that it is in “a very bad position.””
MARCH 8, 2025 – “Putin Won”
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/03/putin-russia-won/681959/
“In the global turn against democracy, he has played, at times, the role of figurehead, impish provocateur, and field marshal. We are living in the Age of Vladimir Putin.”
Hmm. By “democracy” they obviously mean a system by which whoever gets elected, the factories close and the borders open.

Posted by: Laban | Mar 25 2025 22:03 utc | 125

Belle | Mar 25 2025 18:49 utc | 99

What stands out to me isn’t the breach of security. It is the horrendous disregard for life and destruction. It is the gleeful lack of any human empathy………these ghouls are celebrating the killing……[of people who]……upheld a moral stance of requiring the giving food and water to the Palestinians.

Thanks Belle.
The American politico-military-journo class do salivate at bombing defenceless brown people.
One reason no American boots, boats or bombers in the theatre of Ukraine …. The Russians can and do fire back.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 25 2025 22:03 utc | 126

As for Vance, at least he protested against the bombing of Yemen, even if not for the right ethical reasons. That he spoke up at all is a good sign that he might not just be a puppet of the Zionists and the neocon imperialists in office. Nor does the leak seem to me to damage him at all; rather, it redounds to his favor, although most of the others just look like neocon fellow travelers.
Posted by: Cabe | Mar 25 2025 19:19 utc | 104

Hmmm, he seemed mostly upset about who was picking up the tab, like a good Wall St guy.
So far as I can tell, nobody on the call wanted to enquire into the root causes of why the Houthis were attacking some shipping in the Red Sea.
Vance went off on anoher anti-European jag, suggesting they should pay and not once mentioned the I-word when frothing at the mouth about freeloaders.
One wonders who else outside of the cabinet war team were on the call…
Zionist la-la-land.

Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 25 2025 22:09 utc | 127

Trump said [yeah, i know]……it was one of Waltz’s aides who added Goldberg’s number to the chat.
This ^ is my conjecture from yesterday’s thread.
It twas the “intern” wot dun it.
Mossad inelegant op.
Case closed.
Trump has been deleting security clearances across Washington since Jan20.
He released the “sacred” JFK MLK files.
A security breach is revenge.
Who was one of the first and loudest voices screeching “security breach” “security breach” ?
Chuck Schumer. He of the warning to Trump: “the intelligence community has six ways from Sunday to get you”.
QED.
——-
The reason i suspected an intern or man-in-middle intel op was because Waltz was signed up following a BBC (big black cock) account. It was the “tell”.
They do like to “autograph” their ops.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 25 2025 22:30 utc | 128

The Trump administration is using Signal as a means to avoid leaving records and responding to subpoenas.
Perfect for the ongoing coup.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 25 2025 22:39 utc | 129

“They’ve also seen Russia with thousands of nukes get bombed all day long directly by Us and Nato and begging for surrender but still not selling them a single plane
Posted by: rk | Mar 25 2025 21:42 utc | 122”
The Russian transfer of advanced fighter aircraft to Iran is progressing rapidly and will be complete before 2026. The number now is 100 not 60. Training aircraft and Russian pilots for training are being provided with the transition. This is occurring concurrently with advanced Russian integrated AD being provided.
None the less you could be correct. I see it as stylistic differences not a willingness to accept dominance. Those with a lot to lose assets and resources always try to avoid conflict. why would they embrace destruction they have it made? None the less if pushed hard enough just about any nation will snap. But who knows. Iraq fell. libya fell. Syria fell. Maybe Iran will fall. I find the arguments that Iran will not just accept domination profound but who knows. Hezbollah is now a social organization. The population does not want war.
My opinion is China Russia and Iran are preparing for world war. They are biding there time and avoiding conflict. Chinas military build out is occurring at a impressive rate. Russia to a much lessor extent. Russias military technology is proven now. china not so much. Perhaps the largest factor is the USA must bring the war to them not visa versa. The logistics are extremely questionable. USA will have the numbers for some time but can they feed their war machines? Russia,china and Iran know if any one of them exit he alliance militarily their chances are much less. This may well be why its being brought to a head now. Iran is the weakest of the three the logical choice to isolate and destroy. Wilkerson opinions Russia can not stay out if conflict starts with Iran. We will just have to see. If however you are saying there is no risk in attacking Iran I strongly disagree. Just my opinion. We staged for two years before Iraq. We couldn’t do that now even if we wanted. So rubble from B2s eh? Innovative! We will see. Is the USA willing to lose this one and not use nukes? Is the Iran IRGC willing to lose this one without shutting down the strait? Can those B2s open the strait from the air? Undersea rubble? Some rubble and they will fold? Run like rabbits to the gulf of mexico?
Trump is renovating military bases in the pacific region and closing them elsewhere. War with China is clearly expected. Iran is a appetizer. One should be careful what they eat.
I think the reality is Russia China and Iran have a game plan and Iran will follow the game plan of the alliabce not just Irans game plan. They have a ot to lose. They are not going to just toss it away but they will take their best shot.
China in particular will not accept dominance. Iran perhaps. Not China. They see this as their time.
If China had not rejected the neoliberals the extra 20 million votes would have appeared and Harris would be the face on the big screen.
If the ChIRu alliance wins without ww3 somehow. It wont be long before differences arise. China will dominate the world. The USA state department created this situation with their endless shenanigans. There is still opportunity for the USA to participate as a equal. If it goes the other way the CHIRu alliance will hold strong until its finished . After its finished all these issues will no longer be relevant. Energy transit is a weak spot. It cant be defended by creating Rubble. Weak spots get used. Openings get exploited. Sooner or later threats fail. Pain compliance fails. You have to find the middle ground. that is what is called “skill”. Pain compliance, B2s in the air works. Until it doesn’t. Older mature nations understand this better than the USA. As Wilkerson mentioned today. This is a learning process that has repeated many times in history. The difference is there are now multiple vectors to destroy everything and these vectors grow more numerous as every day passes. The monopoly on apocalypse can not be maintained. Finding the middle ground is the only chance at survival.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-8gDycWlLg

Posted by: LosBanos | Mar 25 2025 22:45 utc | 130

Yes, everything is copy/paste from Syria but here there’s much more, Putin also offered many resources last month. Did it while getting bombed by them
“We would be happy to cooperate with any foreign partners, including American companies.
The same is true for the new territories: we are open to foreign partnerships. Our historical territories that have become part of the Russian Federation again also hold certain reserves. We are ready to work there with international partners, including Americans”
( en.interaffairs.ru/article/vladimir-putin-in-order-to-resolve-challenging-and-urgent-matters-including-on-the-ukrainian-trac/ )
Posted by: rk | Mar 25 2025 19:33 utc | 107
I’m thinking this would be something different than stealing Syrian oil while the Syrians starve. But, business partnerships where both benefit. As far as post-SMO Ukraine minus the Russian oblasts, I don’t know.

Posted by: freedom fritos | Mar 25 2025 22:46 utc | 131

Finally, @ Ahenobarbus | Mar 25 2025 15:18 utc | 34 : You are one of my favorite commentators here, and one whom I most often agree with. Your comments on Vance here are similar to my own thoughts. But I also think, as you do, that real change in the US will require quite a revolution and that that will come eventually, inevitably, as pressures build up from various causes. Unfortunately, that is also likely to become quite a bloody mess, so God help us.
Posted by: Cabe | Mar 25 2025 19:19 utc | 104
Sadly, history has found no better way of ushering in a new era. Like childbirth. Messy but worth it!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 25 2025 22:47 utc | 132

Love Donbass @ 1, Otto Penn @ 32:
Gal Gadot used to pose as a pin-up girl in recruitment cheesecake posters for the IDF. She still supports the IDF as well.
Cinemas in Lebanon and other parts of the Middle East refused to screen the Wonder Woman film when it was released in 2017.
Posted by: Refinnejenna | Mar 25 2025 20:15 utc | 113
And frankly, not hot at all IMHO.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 25 2025 22:48 utc | 133

Any points raised are tiresome and because posts are so biased and speculative, totally uninformative.
Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 25 2025 22:00 utc | 124
Why come here then, beautiful soul? Also, spelling America with a K has no political significance at all. Embarrassingly rad.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 25 2025 22:51 utc | 134

An unexpected result of the perseveration on The Leak, regarding Mike Waltz & Signal, has diverted time & attention from the outcome of the Riyadh talks, which is a positive.
<< Suddenly all at once the geopolitical focus has shifted from the Atlanticist's perspective, the Zelensky stan perspective, to one involving DJT's Cabinet, its secure communications and the fate of its integrity going forward. >>
Make no mistake–the Atlanticist’s perspective is *still* relevant here, by which I mean the Americans have made clear that they regard Europe as “pathetic” in these leaked dispatches—so the Atlanticists’ dignity—such as it is—is still on the line.
<< The Americans emphasize in fact that the Europeans seem content to allow the U.S. to carry its water in combating Ansar Allah in the Red Sea. The Americans make obvious the disrespect they feel toward the Europeans in the entire West Asia venture. >>
Why is this relevant-?
<< It is relevant because the Americans have found the Europeans lacking in their willingness to assume responsibility for Project Ukraine in the wake of the U.S.'s need to pivot to higher priority ventures. >>
And now the Americans are making clear the degree to which they see the Europeans shirking responsibility w/ West Asia. “How long do we have to carry these bums-?”
<< So Goldberg's *leaks* serve an additional purpose: while the Beltway perseverates over Signal and Mike Waltz and the security of DJT's Cabinet, there is no bandwidth to hover over Project Ukraine. The Europeans are sidelined massively. << Way to change the subject DJT.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 25 2025 23:01 utc | 135

Also.
While the noise from this intell -media deep spook world —- watch—- carefully for action on the sidelines.
There’s nothing like a noisy neighbourhood party for cover while the house next door gets robbed.
Same here.
All oxygen on the “security breach” leaves space and time for other ops…..

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 25 2025 23:03 utc | 136

Although I *do* think the negotiations relative to Project Ukraine will take longer than the period of time for which the Europeans have patience (or a budget.)
<< Which is not a bad thing. >>
It simply means that matters will unfold in a timeline which does not align w/ that of the West. This signals a major pivot from how discussions & decisions played out w/ Collective Biden a year ago, when the Atlanticists and Collective Biden were like peas in a pod. Whenever there was an important announcement to make, some sort of Media Win on the battlefield in Ukraine would precede the event, and there of course would be those keepsake souvenir Family Portrait photos in Vilnius or in Brussels.
<< We're not in that space any longer. << Media Wins for Ukraine mean little. U.S. attention turns to matters relative to West Asia, and Russia is free to chive on with its SMO objectives beyond the constantly perseverating gaze of the propagandistic West.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 25 2025 23:10 utc | 137

Trust me–the noise level in the Regime Media is @ a sufficient decibel level to drown out a heavy metal concert, live, in your neighbor’s backyard.
<< No one is going to talk about Project Ukraine for a very long time. >>
DJT will have ample elbow room & space to work w/ VVP on *other* things–like on the situation in West Asia, specifically w/ Iran, as well as issues relative to the global oil & gas markets.
<< Meanwhile, politicians in the U.S. will agitate for Mike Waltz's head--or someone's. >>
We already know that Goldberg is holding on to additional screen-shots from his Signals venture, threatening to release them as proof of—what-? A sword of Damocles hangs over this entire escapade, and it will consume massive Beltway bandwidth for a while.
<< Which means that Russia can continue prosecuting its SMO, and the U.S. can occasionally check in w/ their Russian *partners* away from the prying eyes of D.C. agitators. >>
And the Europeans, miffed, will feel incredibly abandoned.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 25 2025 23:24 utc | 138

Trump seems to think everyone else should pay for US’s geopolitical ambitions. How convenient. We know why the US ships are in the Red Sea and that is to protect the US’s actual 51st vassal state called Israel and its real estate expansion.
Formerly it was the British/French who wanted control over the Middle East and Arab lands with the swindle they did under the WWI Sykes-Picot Agreement and the secret Balfour Declaration in support of radical Zionism. Britain wanted the oil in the region as it was quickly becoming the world’s most sought after liquid fuel due to the rise of internal combustion engines. I would say the only reason the US is really in support of Israel and supplies it with so much weaponry and ammunition is to have base slap bang in the middle of what was (and still is to some extent) the most abundant and accessible region for crude oil of quality in the world. Saudi Arabia is still a central focus in that game as well.
Polar oil deposits and trade routes (as the ice melts) are also why Trump wants Greenland and Canada as well as full control of the Panama Canal.

Posted by: George | Mar 25 2025 23:33 utc | 139

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 25 2025 21:43 utc | 123
I’ll have to check out “The Message.” Surprises me to hear Coates would call his previous work wrong headed, but maybe he’s referring to a book he wrote or something. I’ve only read a few of his long form articles (yeah, at The Atlantic, I think) and they’ve all been very good.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 25 2025 23:33 utc | 140

Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 25 2025 22:00 utc | 124
I followed the link to your comment and read every single subsequent comment in the thread. Vast majority were completely on-topic and I didn’t see anything about Democrats or Republicans. WTF

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 25 2025 23:36 utc | 141

Posted by: rk | Mar 25 2025 21:42 utc | 122
###########
Why do you consistently post things that are not true?
Last week, it was that Russia had not sent arms to Iran.
Today it is that Russia doesn’t like Yemen.
Goofy stuff, kid.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 25 2025 23:40 utc | 142

One would think that the US choosing not to defend the Suez would compel the EU to act independently, step into the void, or form a partnership with Egypt, Turkey, and perhaps even China to secure this vital economic transit route between Europe and Asia. Why would the US empire seek to surrender its relevance in such a geo-economically and strategically vital waterway—whether to the Europeans alone or to some sort of Eurasian naval entente?
Obviously, it’s not just about how much or how little you, the world-bestriding hegemon, depend on it yourself, but about how much others—whom you wish to restrict economically and geopolitically—depend on it. And indeed, it seems of unquestionable import to the Middle East, the EU, and China. As far as I can make heads or tails of this tempest in a teapot, this particular theme strikes me as the most superfluous and incongruous.

Posted by: Ludovic | Mar 26 2025 0:16 utc | 143

Merely a crude attempt to look less like a puppet of Zionistan.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 25 2025 17:17 utc | 72
Rachel Blevins explains it best…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TUyzdhvNj8

Posted by: jinn | Mar 26 2025 0:22 utc | 144

The best info I’ve seen today about this event is Max Blumenthal’s chat with Judge Napolitano, which busts down the door and exposes the termites. Tulsi Gabbard is revealed to be useless in the role many thought she might play. If I’d known more about the leak, I’d have done more with it in my article of last night, “What Sort of Nation Kills Innocent People to “Send a Message”?” because the issue is now about the waging of an undeclared aggressive war against Yemen and Ansarallah specifically. That’s War Crime #1 folks, right in league with Obama/Biden/Bush/Clinton. Do devote 30 minutes of your time to watch that chat; you’ll be glad you did.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 26 2025 0:25 utc | 145

Nothing from the Riyadh-Jeddah-Riyadh talks has given neocon senators a juicy Porterhouse steak sizzling on the grill like the Signals groupchat *leak* to Jeffrey Goldberg. Ever since Schumer caved to DJT and voted in favor of the Continuing Resolution the neocon senators–and Dems in general–have been salivating to sink their teeth into some raw meat in order to castigate DJT and his team.
<< What negotiations relative to Project Ukraine could not provide, the Signals groupchat did. Now we're seeing a Beltway feeding frenzy unleashed, like someone tossed a fresh bleeding carcass into the tank of circling sharks. D.C. neocon Dems have bee waiting to pounce on the likes of Tulsi and Ratcliffe and Waltz ever since they confirmed the trio. Presented w/ this opportunity, they will maximize it to the nth. Mark Warner is already throwing Tulsi's words back at her, verbatim. >>
My point is this: had something relative to Project Ukraine presented the neocon Dems w/ a chance to lambaste DJT and his team, they would have. But word out of Project Ukraine, now that the negotiations have begun, has been kind of dry, unremarkable & hard to digest—the worst of roadkill venison. A fatty Porterhouse sizzling away over open coals, dripping its juices down onto the embers, is going to attract a Bigly crowd of ready-to-pounce neocons and Dems, eager to dive into the smoke.
<< My advice to you: put your popcorn away for now and toss a steak onto the grill.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 26 2025 0:44 utc | 146

Listening to today’s Military Summary channel video, Dima redeemed himself IMO with a very good analysis of the failed Saudi Arabia talks.
In contrast to the liars in the MSM, who claimed falsely that there was some “ceasefire” deal reached on the Black Sea, Dima smartly stuck to the facts:
1. There are no written documents signed, nothing
2. Russia demanded preconditions before any cessation of hostilities in the Black Sea, such as the lifting of sanctions on Russia’s agricultural products
3. There is no agreement to any terms and any talk of ceasefires is in the future tense.
So we’re stuck with lying liars and presstitutes who misrepresent the whole situation, simply regurgitating Trump’s lies.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Mar 26 2025 1:14 utc | 147

“Wall of Steel” by William Schryver
A short read related to what is happening in the Red Sea right now.
https://imetatronink.substack.com/p/wall-of-steel

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 26 2025 1:24 utc | 148

My bad, I meant to post that in the Palestine thread. A good short read nonetheless.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 26 2025 1:25 utc | 149

Lavrov’s ‘take’ on the ZNPP from today’s interview w/ Rossiya 1:
“In connection with the speculations circulated in the media on the possible transfer of the Zaporizhzhya NPP (ZNPP) to Ukraine or the establishment of some kind of “joint control” over the station with Ukraine, the United States or representatives of international organizations, we would like to clarify the following. ZNPP is a Russian nuclear facility. Following the referendums held at the end of September 2022, the DPR, LPR, Kherson and Zaporizhzhya regions became part of the Russian Federation as full-fledged subjects. On October 5, 2022, Decree of the President of the Russian Federation No. 711 “On the specifics of legal regulation in the field of atomic energy use in the territory of the Zaporizhzhya region” was signed, securing the status of ZNPP as a facility under Russian jurisdiction. The return of the station to the Russian nuclear industry is a long-standing fact that the international community can only acknowledge.
“The idea of ​​any international organizations participating in the operation of the station also seems absurd, since neither the mandate nor the competence of any of them allows them to participate in the operation of nuclear facilities. In accordance with international law, including key specialized conventions, the states themselves bear the primary responsibility for ensuring nuclear and physical nuclear safety on their territory. In the case of ZNPP, it is the Russian Federation, and nothing else.”
Lavrov also spoke of the “nurtured Nazis” in Kiev—the nurtured neo-Nazi regime, that is. Obviously the Nurturers-in-Chief have been the U.S. and the Europeans. Now the U.S., one of the lead Nurturers, is looking for an off-ramp.
Gnarly.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 26 2025 1:27 utc | 150

When I first read about this, I was immediately suspicious.
The incompetence displayed here is disturbing AND disgusting.
Wiles text extremely so.
Good job bombing and killing 53 people, GOD BLESS! I realize that’s not what she said, but it sure as hell came across thAt way
Accident? No. Not buying it for a minute, but WHY the leak? Not clear on why.

Posted by: Kay | Mar 26 2025 1:31 utc | 151

I’ll just add a random thing on the talks
the complaint about europe and EGYPT not living up to their part.
Egypt has , by us design, one of the most outdated air force.
Maybe, just maybe, egypt now says “your fault” and trump administration says, not ours, not our administration, we’ll sell you top shelf beautiful new toys…
What does the us want egypt to do in that corner with refreshed nato weaponry?
Lybia’s haftar? When I first discussed quid pro quo’s lybia didn’t cross my mind…
It would take some years but might be a next step.

Posted by: Newbie | Mar 26 2025 1:55 utc | 152

…no one involved had a staffer who said wait a minute, Signal?
oldhippie | Mar 25 2025 19:22 utc | 105
Allegedly, it was a,Waltz staffer who added Goldberg.
A young intern/staffer would also know the BBC meme.
The black porno site Waltz was “following” only had a few hundred followers.
It’s a “tell”/ autograph from the insider intell guys.
“We have a hundred ways from Sunday to fuck with you”.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 26 2025 1:58 utc | 153

Kay | Mar 26 2025 1:31 utc | 152
…Not buying it for a minute, but WHY the leak? Not clear on why.
Revenge.
Trump has revoked hundreds of security clearances since Jan20.
Security clearances are bread and butter and prestige. And a way to meddle domestically and globally.
Intel guys are saying, (as is their motto) “nothing is beyond our reach”
The insider permanent media-intel labyrinth just netted the entire Trump admin in one simple op.
Trump still has no idea what he’s dealing with.
FVEY. Mossad. Media conglomerate.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 26 2025 2:05 utc | 154

steel_porcupine | Mar 26 2025 1:27 utc | 151
LAVROV: … the states themselves bear the primary responsibility for ensuring nuclear and physical nuclear safety on their territory. In the case of ZNPP, it is the Russian Federation, and nothing else.”
If the yanks/predator investor class can’t have it, and ensuring safety is Russian responsibility…….Chernobyl2.0 incoming in 3-2-1….

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 26 2025 2:13 utc | 155

Is hearsay allowed here?
Pepe Escobar claims that MI6 and CIA have back doors into Signal, fwiw.

Posted by: suzan | Mar 26 2025 2:58 utc | 156

suzan | Mar 26 2025 2:58 utc | 157
Signal was created by the CIA. So. Yeah. Back door front door side door. Windows…

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 26 2025 3:29 utc | 157

@ Arch Bungle | Mar 25 2025 17:17 utc | 72
sounds plausible.. thanks..
@ HB_Norica | Mar 25 2025 18:26 utc | 92
lol!
@ Belle | Mar 25 2025 18:49 utc | 99
they are just showing fealty to there sponsors.. that’s all..

Posted by: james | Mar 26 2025 3:29 utc | 158

Signal was created by Mathew Rosenfeld.
Rosenfeld identifies as Moxie Marlinspike
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moxie_Marlinspike

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 26 2025 3:30 utc | 159

karlof1 | Mar 26 2025 0:25 utc | 146
Watched some of the Judge-Blumenthal.
Was disappointed Max wasn’t alert to Waltz Signal and twitter accounts being run by a staffer.
That’s the point of entry for the intel op.
By the playbook. That kid who leaked to 4chan (and Larry, the Judge and McGovern) thought a 4chan shitpost was an email…{dumb boomers}.
And there was another low level kid who got pinged “leaking” during RussiaRussiaRussia. (Not reacquainting myself with the details right now)
Also George Papadupe and Carter Paige and and and and. ( And the kid almost-assassin on the oh-too-steep roof Butler Field Penn)
It’s classic textbook playbook intel op. SOP.
Get the kid to do it.
Plausible deniability.
The kid asset can be burned, no worries.
^ RIP Seth Rich

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 26 2025 3:37 utc | 160

B is totally correct here…..the reason for the Houthis relentless attacks on Israeli and allied shipping is the genocide in Gaza…..
Stop the genocide and the Houthis attacks on shipping stop too…………by the way the IDF is now three full weeks into a complete embargo of fresh water, food, medical supplies and electricity for Gaza innocents………
Taking the Houthis actions in isolation from the genocidal attacks on Gaza civilians is just plain ignorant.

Posted by: tobias cole | Mar 26 2025 3:47 utc | 161

@ tobias cole | Mar 26 2025 3:47 utc | 161
fully agree tobias… how do you say ”bunch of dumb fucks” in swahili?

Posted by: james | Mar 26 2025 3:56 utc | 162

Walz is a CIA Cheney neo con mole……….Goldberger was always in the Walz system, because Walz is the leaker undermining any non neo cons.
At this point the CIA is only a subset of the Mossad. 100k dead Palestinians, we see nothing, nothing at all……………..

Posted by: tobias cole | Mar 26 2025 4:03 utc | 163

Another “tell” the Waltz staff+ Goldberg was a intel op.
It happened just ahead of the scheduled Senate intel hearing.
Coincidence? There are no coincidences. The breach allowed them to spend the entire time talking about their magnificent excellent media-3LA manufactured story.
Trump says staffer: President Donald Trump revealed that a staffer with national security advisor Mike Waltz’s office included the editor-in-chief of the Atlantic in a Signal group chat with senior Trump officials who were discussing plans for an upcoming strike on Houthi rebels in Yemen.
>”It was one of Michael’s people on the phone.
A staffer had his number on there,” Trump told NBC in a phone interview when asked how Jeffrey Goldberg, the Atlantic’s editor-in-chief, was added to the high-profile chat.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-reveals-who-behind-signal-text-chain-leak
Another clue it’s an op. Biden team regularly engaged Signal and parties can be approved by requesting Exception to Policy (E2P).
Team John Brennan knows how to make sneaky intel shit work
And Mike Waltz wife? Former DNI policy chief, Julia Nesheiwat.🤡
Plausible deniability cover for Waltz+staffer:
Goldberg has the initials JG for his Signal alias.
The Trade Representative at the moment also has the initials JG.
Given the nature of the conversation the TR was supposed to be in the chat so they likely assumed Goldberg was the other JG.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 26 2025 4:03 utc | 164

“If you don’t like my posts, don’t read them-
Posted by: canuck | Mar 25 2025 15:10 utc | 27”
is there any way to block this retard’s posts? literally every single thing he posts is spam. is there some kind of browser plugin i can download?

Posted by: anderson | Mar 26 2025 4:04 utc | 165

Signal is an encrypted chat application which, until recently, was financed by the U.S. government. That is in itself a good reason to not trust it.

Indeed. Look at who is involved here:

Katherine Roberts Maher (/mɑːr/ MAR;[1] born April 18, 1983)[2] is an American non-profit executive. She has been the chief executive officer (CEO) and president of NPR since March 2024.[3] Prior to NPR, she was the CEO of Web Summit and chair of the board of directors at the Signal Foundation. She is a former chief executive officer and executive director of the Wikimedia Foundation.[4][5][6]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katherine_Maher

Posted by: Pacific Observer | Mar 26 2025 4:21 utc | 166

US attack on Yemen = provoking the Houthis
A plan…if so, which one?
I’ll put forward a theory here as to why the US will bomb Yemen and increase the provocation, but only until the desired reaction occurs.
In this case:
The Red Sea is avoided, especially by oil and gas tankers.
The effect, and one or two have already called it…
Energy shortage in Europe…
The US will also adjust its export figures when it comes to gas!
Result:
Europe cannot rearm, cannot build weapons, cannot produce its own steel, cannot ship coal, AND thus its plans against Russia are history for many years to come.
On the contrary, their, the EU governments’, greatest concern will be to keep the population down and calm…
Because there will be a shortage…Germany should then not just prepare for high fuel and heating prices. The next Car-Free Sunday (like in the 70s) is also approaching.
However, the infrastructure in Germany has been cut to such an extent that a Bundeswehr or NATO would not be able to move troops or equipment eastward.
Over 400 bridges on highways and federal roads are in disrepair, over 200 of which are already completely closed. The same applies to railway bridges, over 280 of which are only partially operational.
As stated above, a theory…
How America can and will slow down the war-mongering Europeans.
The protests against war and its preparations are already being SYSTEMATICALLY silenced. Last Saturday in over 32 cities.
But in Germany, to ward off the crisis, the economy is being set up for war, and even VW/BMW, the auto industry, which is experiencing up to 40% sales losses, is being forced to produce military equipment (Opel, as a US company, was not included!!)…Paid for with a trillion euros in debt…there will be more.
Adolf Hitler saved the economy in 1937 by switching to war mode. The effect:
The people cheered him on. German workers had never been better off than during the war economy. Technology was making leaps forward, and there was (officially) no talk of war yet.
History repeats itself, the mob falls for it again. Hatred against Russians 24/7 in all media!
No matter…what do you think of the THESIS…Yemen serves the purpose of shutting down Europe?
That’s what it was about; the rest of the article was just an encore.
.

Posted by: berthold | Mar 26 2025 6:53 utc | 167

@Newbie | Mar 26 2025 1:55 utc | 152

What does the us want egypt to do in that corner with refreshed nato weaponry?

Pay for it. Twice. That is all they care about.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 26 2025 7:48 utc | 168

As result of “this puerile exchange of texts” on SIGNAL, Janet Daily is *never* going to stop wagging her finger at the “shallow and irresponsible” Americans for “describing the European nations as pathetic freeloaders.” She is so aghast in her column for the Daily Telegraph that she sees “the future of our (UK/EU) security operations at risk” and wonders whether “we should continue to supply highly sensitive intelligence to a White House that holds us in such contempt and might just accidentally broadcast critical information to random contacts.”
Stung still by JD’s dressing down of the continent in Munich, Daily sees the Veep continuing true to form, a guy “who joined in the sneering at what are supposed to be his country’s chief allies with such gusto.” Before Daily takes to the Fainting Couch, she leaves readers of the Daily Telegraph w/ this important question: “Whose side are the Americans on? The *pathetic* Western countries with whom it shares a democratic tradition, or its new friend, Vladimir Putin?”
Because, you know, in matters of steep international significance the binaries are inescapable. If the Americans are not “on the side” of the “democratic” Western countries, they are on the side of Vladimir Putin. And if the Americans are on the side of Vladimir Putin, in Daily’s estimation, well then they are poised to carve up global territory—as much Greenland as Crimea.
Inconveniently, Daily does not recall the joint effort of “democratic” Western countries, teaming w/ the U.S. to ethnically cleanse Chagossians from the Chagos Islands in order to carve out space for Diego Garcia, a strategically-placed unsinkable aircraft carrier for the UK. Neither does Daily recall the joint effort of “democratic” Western countries, teaming w/ the U.S., to bomb Yugoslavia, eventually carving illegitimate Kosovo out of Serbia in order to create Camp Bondsteel, its fortress-as-faux-country in the heart of eastern Europe.
Memory lapses like that aside, Daily sees Vladimir Putin lurking beneath the suddenly untrustworthy behavior of “shallow and irresponsible” Americans in DJT’s Cabinet. Which lands her on the ultimate conclusion: “America has ceased to be the leader of the free world.”
Just as Americans either *are* or *are not* on the side of “democratic” Western countries, they either *are* or *are not* members of *the free world,* because in Daily’s Cold War-think—-again, quite binary-based—-“the free world” exists as a pure & unsullied entity that she alone is able to judge. And it exists alongside a world that never finds itself within *the free world.* Daily’s thinking is as regressive as Josep Borrell’s binary of The Garden vs. The Jungle. When it comes to American leadership, however, her pronouncement is simply this: “It’s over.”

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 26 2025 7:53 utc | 169

@tobias cole | Mar 26 2025 3:47 utc | 161

Taking the Houthis actions in isolation from the genocidal attacks on Gaza civilians is just plain ignorant.

You are being too kind calling it ignorance.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 26 2025 7:53 utc | 170

Nota Bene: at no point is Janet Daily outraged in her Daily Telegraph column over the pre-emptive strikes on Sana’a, Yemen and the loss of civilian lives. She is outraged to discover *how* Americans talk about Europeans when they think no one is listening.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 26 2025 7:53 utc | 171

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 26 2025 4:03 utc | 164
RE: intel set-up designed to coincide w/ the already-scheduled intel hearing in the Senate
<< Great post. Here's a weird Fun Fact: Janette Nesheiwat is the sister of Mike Waltz's wife Julia Nesheiwat---and DJT has nominated Janette Nesheiwat to be his Surgeon General.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 26 2025 8:04 utc | 172

@Posted by: Pacific Observer | Mar 26 2025 4:21 utc | 166
Who is in the foundation does not mean much. Signal attracted users because of their open source status in addition to encryption. The problem was that the open source published code was always very much behind the working version, so you could not verify what is going on with the versions you actually use. I don’t know if today the problem still persists.
From what I read end to end encryption will be banned at least in EU and US, so it won’t be a “problem” anymore. Even if it remains allowed it doesn’t mean much. It’s like with the famous Proton mail. they claimed to be so secure and so safe, but the story quickly ended when they received requests from governments and other agencies. People were surprised that they accepted but the local law forces them to do so or they can’t exist as business. It was a lie from the start. Or Telegram which releases any information Nato requests, but nothing for Russia or anyone else

Posted by: rk | Mar 26 2025 8:25 utc | 173

They lie, cheat, steal…
They extort, blackmail, threaten …
To achieve domination over their sick hearts desire
The enslavement of the world.
They kidnap, torture and murder…
Men women children
To have their way
But above all they use their greatest weapon
Money, which they inevented, and worship
Wield like the greatest sword ever
Like the greatest sorcerers wand.
And when that fails – they are
Dumbstruck!!!
They can’t understand it!!
It perplexes them greatly !
That most of humanity does
Not think like they do, about their
Magik Money.
They rent their garments, they wail and gnash
they cover themselves in a beasts ashes
They froth at the mouth and curse
They destroy everyone, Anyone
Who does not believe in the
Power of their Only God
Money Money Money
😂😂😂
“TheFutureIsDesigned
@designed_future
Mar 19
Replying to @Khaledhzakariah
Israel offered a FIVE MILLION DOLLAR bounty on information about hostages that would lead to their release. PLUS guaranteed safe passage out of Gaza. PLUS legal immunity.
None of them. Not one. Not a single motherfucker. Took that offer. This isn’t coffee money. This is LIFE-CHANGING money. Even if you have NO conscience, at least THIS should have an impact. None. Nothing. They would rather get off on Israelis being tortured and starved, than GUARANTEE an amazing life for themselves or their family.
Not. A. Single. Fucking. One.
Mar 19, 2025 · 4:08 AM UTC “
See?
💩💩🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤯🤯😱😱😱
(Especially that foul mouthed c**t @Khaledhzakariah)
Lol. Folks of course the whole thing is a setup.
The GoldBug ain’t arrested and in a miltary prison and is instead fetted.
I guess they needed a newer faster ‘feed me’ Seymour,
a blunter limited hangout
A Hearst to drive them to their promised lands.
They are insane and can’t understand :
“Not one. Took that offer”
😭 more. They will NEVER UNDERSTAND.
It s not because the tortured Gazans dont have one,
It is precisely because they do have a,
“ Conscience “
That is some sick mother fucking mental illness
The genociding bastards and their ‘bought’ backers
It’s the ziofascists disease
That many are afflicted by
Because they are
Lured by the
Poisonous
Money.
Read it again! they can’t believe people would turn money down.
Refuse Money!
‘Does not compute’ their brain says.
It is a sure proof of their mental aberration.
It is also therefore their Achilles Heal.
BDS the Ziofascists illegal apartheid entity,
stop its metastasis.
Make them cry, make their illegal apartheid entity go away.
It Never was Real
that fake …’Wasrael’
It only Ever Was
Aways Will Be
Palestine
River To The Sea.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 26 2025 8:30 utc | 174

What’s the fuss with Signal/Telegram/whatever here?
If you *really* want a secure communication, you should invest some effort there. Roll your own solution only you and your friends will be familiar with. There is plenty of open source project which will help greatly.
You can pay for VPS serving as a relay for encrypted messages, with strong protection and not storing anything in case of breach. You have plenty of options (SElinux, AppArmor, cgroups, Linux containers, or even OpenBSD instead of Linux), it just requires knowledge/effort.
Check this if interested.
Or, in case you are not really into this kind of stuff, you can easily encrypt your emails and send it to somebody knowing how to decrypt them. GNU PG is quite handy for this.

Posted by: Jergus Lapin | Mar 26 2025 8:41 utc | 175

when you get right down to it, there is no secret information exposed in the leak.. because two hours after its execution the war plan was obvious.. Hence I side with the leak to be politics as usual. x gets a to set up B, x gets b to set up C, then x kills all three.. interesting that Vance busied himself out.

Posted by: snake | Mar 26 2025 9:01 utc | 176

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 26 2025 7:53 utc | 169
Binary expecially with emotion loaded words, ‘free’ world, ‘garden’ Vs ‘jungle’, ‘bad’ Putin, and now Trump, ‘good’ we the other guys, are propaganda 101.
You must deliver simple statements emotionally loaded.

Posted by: Mario | Mar 26 2025 9:13 utc | 177

Belle | Mar 25 2025 18:49 utc | 99
You are correct, ghouls is the operative word.

Posted by: circumspect | Mar 26 2025 10:18 utc | 178

> Is hearsay allowed here?
Pretty much the entire comment section is hearsay.
B would have to shut down comments to prohibit hearsay.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Mar 26 2025 11:30 utc | 179

Signal was created by Mathew Rosenfeld.
Rosenfeld identifies as Moxie Marlinspike
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moxie_Marlinspike
Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 26 2025 3:30 utc | 159
Always the same bunch of people.
Is there anything of any significance in the West that’s not controlled by these folks?

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 26 2025 12:14 utc | 180

If it is compromised, as Chas Freeman pointed out, probably the Chinese, Russians, Brits and Israelis were listening in so it doesn’t really matter if they patched in the wrong Goldberg/stein/mann/kin.
Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 25 2025 21:17 utc | 120
If it’s run by a Jew it’s cracked by mossad.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 26 2025 12:18 utc | 181

The best info I’ve seen today about this event is Max Blumenthal’s chat with Judge Napolitano, which busts down the door and exposes the termites. Tulsi Gabbard is revealed to be useless in the role many thought she might play. If I’d known more about the leak, I’d have done more with it in my article of last night, “What Sort of Nation Kills Innocent People to “Send a Message”?” because the issue is now about the waging of an undeclared aggressive war against Yemen and Ansarallah specifically. That’s War Crime #1 folks, right in league with Obama/Biden/Bush/Clinton. Do devote 30 minutes of your time to watch that chat; you’ll be glad you did.
Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 26 2025 0:25 utc | 145
Thanks for the link to the Blumenthal interview on Judge. Always a pleasure to hear him explain things so clearly and insightfully.

Posted by: Autumn | Mar 26 2025 12:21 utc | 182

An addendum to my earlier vent.
Who’s this Cnut???
‘ Khaled Hassan
@Khaledhzakariah
National Security & Foreign Policy Researcher | Council Member, President Herzog’s Voice of the People, 150 leaders to represent 15M Jews worldwide.🇮🇱🇪🇬🇬🇧
United Kingdom
youtube.com/@MENAHouse
Joined March 2015
‘Khaled Hassan
@Khaledhzakariah
19h
99% of the most important stuff said by @SteveWitkoff in his interview with Tucker Carlson was completely overlooked by most commentators.
Here is what you need to bear in mind:
1- Qatar, Syria and Lebanon are undergoing fundamental, drastic changes in their views of, and relations, towards Israel. Expect good news here.
2- Most Egyptian commentators attacked Steve over his comments about Egypt’s economy (especially his claim that unemployment is at 45%).
This comment was NOT the most significant comment Steve made on Egypt during the interview. Those who read between the lines would see that Steve openly indicated a huge shift in US-Egypt relations. For example, when asked who the main key stakeholders are in the Hamas-Israel war, Steve said, “Qatar, Hamas and Israel”.
(Blah blah blah)
Terrible news for Egypt, especially ahead of the upcoming (yes, it will happen) recognition of Somaliland by the US.
3- Steve, and President Trump, are frustrated with the Middle East.
(Blah blah blah)
4- Steve is a good man who is loyal to President Trump and his vision for the Middle East.
(Blah blah blah)
Maybe more to unpack soon. I am only half-way through the interview (I really take my time with these things as every single statement/question matters).
Mar 25, 2025 · 1:29 PM UTC ‘
Ahhh bless, the Cnut needs more time before blah blahing further and gas lighting ‘Steve’.
Note also the gaslighting ‘Arabic’ name. The gaslighting Arabic features!
Shapeshifters doing what they do best through their history.
Like vampyres doing what they do best .
Shift Shapes and suck the life out of humanity.
‘President Herzog’s Voice of the People,’ sounds insane in that and most of his other twatters.
The way he refers to ‘Steve’.
Like the ‘gone bad ‘ computer HAL – having its hardware hammered –
‘Steve’ I don’t feel well!
Steve? Steve?? Help me Steve!
I’m afraid Steve…
Lol. Bunch of pearl clutching 😱🤡🤡🤡 foul mouthed mofo cnuts.

Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 26 2025 13:26 utc | 183

Search on this:
SIGNAL: Trump’s Syria strike, Russia’s response, Xi Jinping in Mar-a-Lago
Eurasia Live
7 April 2017
Times they are a-not-changing.

Posted by: Stumpy | Mar 26 2025 13:27 utc | 184

Why all the fuss over a leak about bombing Yemen? Where’s the fuss over bombing a country that the US congress hasn’t declared war upon?

Posted by: zeke2u | Mar 26 2025 13:48 utc | 185

The appointment of the former German Defense Minister Ursula Von Der Leyen seems prescient: The European Union is going to spend 800,000 million euro more on defense, against the Russian threat. The goal is stated in money: “We need to spend 800,000 million euro.” “We need to spend at least 2% of GDP.”
If the purpose was defending against the Russian threat, the goal would be stated in military terms: “We need so many soldiers, tanks, airplanes, warships to defend this and that building, road, or bridge”. So what is happening?
Simple. Europe is an American colony, and the empire has raised the imperial tax to 2%.

Posted by: Passerby | Mar 26 2025 13:56 utc | 186

karlof1 @ 145
Blumenthal is at his best here, doing inside baseball. He is still an ex-Hillary lackey, a salesman for the US wars on Libya and Syria, and every bit as slimy as his father Sid. Fully the equal of Goldberg for being a disgusting human being. It does sound like this time he knows something.
The discussion on this board ranges from very good (your contributions certainly), to rather pathetic. That our national security apparatus operates solely at the pathetic level is not much of a surprise but still disheartening.

Posted by: oldhippie | Mar 26 2025 14:09 utc | 187

Ursula von der Leyen’s war mania reminds one of a infamous speech made during the 1940s.
Do you want TOTAL WAR ?

Posted by: Exile | Mar 26 2025 14:16 utc | 188

From what is coming out it looks like either Waltz, or more likely an aide, patched Goldberg into the discussion group. It could happen. Especially if you are really dumb it could happen.
That no principal or aide said WTF why are we doing this on Signal is plain odd. Larry Johnson is right, there are secure internal channels for this type of discussion. Except the internal channels are not secure against a bureaucracy that will do anything to get Trump. So they go to a wholly insecure app and hoist themselves on own petard. Idiots.

Posted by: oldhippie | Mar 26 2025 14:16 utc | 189

In answer to the headline…a deliberate leak to try to make it seem like they aren’t doing Israel’s bidding.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Mar 26 2025 14:29 utc | 190

oldhippie | Mar 26 2025 14:16 utc | 189
Yes, exactly. Doesn’t really matter whether or not classified information was shared; the fact that one of the internal channels wasn’t used is grounds for severe censure, if not outright dismissal of all involved, including Saint Gabbard. It really does lend credence to b’s assertion that this was probably done deliberately by someone.
What a bunch of effing clownshoes

Posted by: robjira | Mar 26 2025 14:40 utc | 191

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 26 2025 1:58 utc | 153 plus others…These seem to me to be developing our host’s venture into Trump apologetics, except instead of hinting at psyops to purpose of someone in the admin, hints—if I follow—at Deep State leaking at the admin?
Or to put it another way,

Why would high administration officials, who have access to more secure communication systems, use Signal to chat with each other?

To keep it secret from official government records, from the public, even from journalists brandishing FOIA requests years later. Government over the people, government above the people and government at the people are the conservative order of the day. Using a private communications channel is very useful for this. As to adding Goldberg to any contact list, again, personal contacts between an admin official and an alleged opponent can be useful in the informal management of news and opinion. Why add him to this particular group? Ask the person who actually pushed the keys. There are managers and administrators who actually do manual labor like typing on a keyboard. But the sad truth is, you can’t be sure that a senior administrator knows how to handle the call waiting. An assistant may have decided to work to rule and thought, well, the asshhole said to add Goldberg?

Posted by: steven t johnson | Mar 26 2025 14:43 utc | 192

JD Vance’s own memoir is Hillbilly Elegy. As to the rest, US must be stopped. Every US bomb, “fighter plane,” etc. should be discarded into the sea. For that matter, Diego and the entire British monarchy should be forced onto a luxurious ship and never allowed on land again. US should be broken up into separate countries. It’s the only way to stop constant US bombing.

Posted by: susan mullen | Mar 26 2025 14:52 utc | 193

Pepe Escobar from Yemen
Pepe Escobar: Yemen Strikes Back as U.S. & Israel Escalate
Recommended. He even got to meet with Yahya Saree
https://t.me/rocknrollgeopolitics/14861

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 26 2025 14:54 utc | 194

@ Ghost of Zanon | Mar 26 2025 11:30 utc | 179
Ya.
I forgot to insert /s, so obvious.

Not directly related.
Diddy for the day.
Pope:
Teach me to feel the woe of others
To hide the faults I see
That mercy I to others show
May mercy be shown to me

Posted by: suzan | Mar 26 2025 15:16 utc | 195

Stunning how fast this “incident” quickly became a shitshow on the MSM, the senate, the EU, all the usual shitshow masters freaking about “a security breach” and so on.
The sad part is nobody dare to say bombing randomly the Yemeni cities and harbors will not help in anyway. It won’t help with the botched “negotiations” with the Russian in Ryad that instantaneously became a “C rated news” either.
Also there are some good parts in this : “the groupchat with an unexpected guest.” is the new trending meme. Even outside of politics.
I was bored scrolling F1 meme and found a copycat discussion with Horner , Marko , Verstapen talking about “Ze segond zeat”… with Riciardo as “unexpected” guest. That’s how a good shitshow should be : at least a bit funny :).

Posted by: Savonarole | Mar 26 2025 15:29 utc | 196

Posted by: Cabe | Mar 25 2025 19:19 utc | 104
Your post is simply an unprovable distinction without difference.
“distinction without a difference”
Trump is not america first and he cannot even be bothered to be America first, even if only to rally his base and up military enrollment.
For the sake of argument… The EO to deport students protesting against the state of isreal could easily be duplicated to deport students burning american flags in anti american protests but it hasn’t been.
Cabe, there is no elite that secretly hates their isreali masters.
There are only isreali masters.

Posted by: ryanggg | Mar 26 2025 15:30 utc | 197

“To trust his “reporting” is dangerous. ”

Posted by: Ross | Mar 26 2025 15:35 utc | 198

It’s also being used to go after Tulsi Gabbard, she is the one the media is now systematically campaigning against, once again CNN is the most enthusiastic to get rid of her, which, given her only particularly prominent positions are her opposition to neocon lobby and it’s war, we can guess what the motivation is.
To bring up Goldberg and his influence is also worth while to bring up the infamous interview, still up on the Atlantic website, (Though now behind a pay or signup wall) he had with Obama. He basically dragged Obama, the president, to explain himself to him as to why he wasn’t starting more wars, in particular why he wasn’t escalating in Ukraine. It’s worth noting that by far the most angry and genuinely racist rhetoric I saw against Obama came from Jewish men born in NYC between 1930-1975. They went insane that he didn’t, just 5 years on from the start (And years from the end) of Iraq commit to wars with Syria and Iran.
https://web.archive.org/web/20160331154207/https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/04/the-obama-doctrine/471525

Obama’s theory here is simple: Ukraine is a core Russian interest but not an American one, so Russia will always be able to maintain escalatory dominance there.
“The fact is that Ukraine, which is a non-nato country, is going to be vulnerable to military domination by Russia no matter what we do,” he said.
I asked Obama whether his position on Ukraine was realistic or fatalistic.
“It’s realistic,” he said. “But this is an example of where we have to be very clear about what our core interests are and what we are willing to go to war for. And at the end of the day, there’s always going to be some ambiguity.” He then offered up a critique he had heard directed against him, in order to knock it down. “I think that the best argument you can make on the side of those who are critics of my foreign policy is that the president doesn’t exploit ambiguity enough. He doesn’t maybe react in ways that might cause people to think, Wow, this guy might be a little crazy.”
“The ‘crazy Nixon’ approach,” I said: Confuse and frighten your enemies by making them think you’re capable of committing irrational acts.
“But let’s examine the Nixon theory,” he said. “So we dropped more ordnance on Cambodia and Laos than on Europe in World War II, and yet, ultimately, Nixon withdrew, Kissinger went to Paris, and all we left behind was chaos, slaughter, and authoritarian governments that finally, over time, have emerged from that hell. When I go to visit those countries, I’m going to be trying to figure out how we can, today, help them remove bombs that are still blowing off the legs of little kids. In what way did that strategy promote our interests?”

Trump certainly seemed to embrace the “Crazy Nixon” approach in his first term let’s see if he can restrain the neocon saturated team around him to leave it at just that and not allow the neocons to use the idea to approach what they really want, the very wars we’re told “Crazy Nixon” strategies are supposed to make unnecessary.

Posted by: Altai | Mar 26 2025 15:40 utc | 199

Pepe Escobar from Yemen
Pepe Escobar: Yemen Strikes Back as U.S. & Israel Escalate
Recommended. He even got to meet with Yahya Saree
https://t.me/rocknrollgeopolitics/14861
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 26 2025 14:54 utc | 194
Nice contribution. Thanks, Norwego!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 26 2025 15:47 utc | 200