Ukraine Still Rejects Temporary, Energy Related Ceasefire Deal
The publicly known results of yesterday's telephone call between U.S. President Donald Trump and Russia's President Vladimir Putin are only minor:
In the run up to today's call, Donald Trump made a big deal of his conversation with Russia's Vladimir Putin.But the results look like there's little to shout about.
The Russian president has given the US leader just enough to claim that he made progress towards peace in Ukraine, without making it look like he was played by the Kremlin.
Trump can point to Putin's pledge to halt attacks on Ukraine's energy infrastructure for 30 days. If that actually happens, it will bring some relief to civilians.
But it's nowhere near the full and unconditional ceasefire that the US wanted from Russia.
The length of the call, more than two hours, suggests that there were more items to talk about than just a ceasefire in Ukraine. However neither side has given more than a hints of what these items might have been.
The Russian pledge to immediately halt attacks on energy facilities is not new at all.
The Russian readout of yesterday's talk is explicitly mentioning a ceasefire on energy facilities:
During the conversation, Donald Trump put forward a proposal for the parties to mutually refrain from strikes on energy infrastructure for 30 days. Vladimir Putin responded favourably to the proposal and immediately gave the relevant order to the Russian troops.
The White House readout acknowledges the offer but does not confirm a date for its acceptance:
The leaders agreed that the movement to peace will begin with an energy and infrastructure ceasefire, as well as technical negotiations on implementation of a maritime ceasefire in the Black Sea, full ceasefire and permanent peace. These negotiations will begin immediately in the Middle East.
Ukraine seems to have not yet agreed to such a deal (machine translation):
Ukraine did not rule out support for the proposal to stop attacks on energy infrastructure.This was stated by President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky during a conversation with journalists.
"We have always supported the position not to strike with any weapons on the energy sector," Zelensky said.
At the same time, the President of Ukraine made it clear that he has not yet made a decision.
"After we receive details from the American president, from the American side, we will prepare and voice our response to the proposal to stop attacks on energy infrastructure, and the team will be ready for technical negotiations," Zelensky said.
Putin's concession, to immediately stop attacks on energy infrastructure, has for now (again) been rejected. Last night the Ukrainian side continued to attack Russian energy facilities:
On the night of 19 March 2025, several hours after the high-level Russian-American talks were completed and after the President of the Russian Federation accepted the U.S. President's offer to temporary cease strikes at the Ukrainian power infrastructure, the Kiev regime launched a deliberate attack by three fixed-wing UAVs at a power infrastructure facility in stanitsa Kavkazkaya (Krasnodar region).This facility ensures oil transshipment from railway tank cars into the pipeline system of the Caspian Pipeline Consortium (CPC) international oil transport company.
There was a fire and some damage caused by it.
It is quite clear that it is one more provocation deliberately prepared by the Kiev regime aimed at undermining the U.S. President's peace initiatives.
The first agreement to stop attacks on energy facilities was made in the fall of 2023 as the FT reported in October last year:
Other attempts to broker a deal have also foundered in the past. Four Ukrainian officials told the Financial Times that Kyiv and Moscow had come to a “tacit agreement” last autumn to not strike each other’s energy facilities.As a result, Russia that winter refrained from the type of large-scale attacks it had conducted on Ukraine’s power infrastructure in 2022-23, according to two Ukrainian officials and a person in Washington with knowledge of the situation.
That agreement was meant to pave the way towards a formal deal, the people said.
However, Kyiv restarted drone attacks on Russia’s oil facilities in February and March this year, as it sought to increase pressure on Moscow after its failed 2023 counteroffensive.
A second agreement prohibiting attacks on energy infrastructure was in the making in August 2024. The Ukrainian incursion into the Kursk oblast of Russia prevented it from being accepted. In October 2024 Ukraine was back at begging for such a deal:
Ukraine and Russia are in preliminary discussions about halting strikes on each other’s energy infrastructure, according to people familiar with the matter.Kyiv was seeking to resume Qatar-mediated negotiations that came close to agreement in August before being derailed by Ukraine’s invasion of Kursk, said the people, who included senior Ukrainian officials.
For unknown reasons the agreement was not revived at that time.
Ukraine's last night attack on another Russian energy facility is the third time it has prevented or abolished such a deal. Russia has however always been willing to pursue it.
Ukraine is presumably determined to blockade any deal, even a small 30 day ceasefire with regards to energy facilities.
Unless the Trump administration puts more pressure on Kiev there will be no chance to achieve any kind of ceasefire deal.
Posted by b on March 19, 2025 at 13:53 UTC | Permalink
next page »One of President Trump's challenges is there are a lot of powerful people in Congress and the bureaucracy who are as desperate for war as the EuroScum. Hell! Maybe there is even a Federal Judge who is itching to order the President to put US boots on the ground.
Against that background, what Presidents Putin & Trump have to do is show the world that Zelensky is the obstacle to peace. Once Zelensky has fallen into that trap (and he will, it's inevitable), then the US can properly cut off all aid to the Ukraine and make it difficult for the EuroScum (who are generally more belligerent than their populations) to continue the war.
Posted by: Gavin Longmuir | Mar 19 2025 14:12 utc | 2
As long as we are providing both arms and real-time satellite intelligence to Ukraine, we are encouraging their own violation of Trump’s proposed deescalation. I do not think this is part of a strategic plan in the Trump administration, but the result of competing influences in that administration on Trump. Right now the administration seems like it is trying to please everybody, and for that reason its actions are inept and self-cancelling. Zelensky and Europe are betting that Trump will not have the courage to cut off Ukraine completely, and I am thinking they are right.
Posted by: WJ | Mar 19 2025 14:25 utc | 3
The Russian readout is specific about energy infrastructure, the White House readout mentions energy and infrastructure ceasefire. ?????
Posted by: georgeg | Mar 19 2025 14:31 utc | 4
For a nation that's supposedly on the ropes, Ukraine has no fear and no need of a ceasefire. It looks like Russia is the one begging for it, so the Ukrainian drones stop destroying its energy infrastructure. This is crazy, no one would have thought it would have turned out like this 3 years ago or that the war would have even lasted this long.
Posted by: bored | Mar 19 2025 14:31 utc | 5
Ukraine is presumably determined to blockade any deal, even a small 30 day ceasefire with regards to energy facilities.
Unless the Trump administration puts more pressure on Kiev there will be no chance to achieve any kind of ceasefire deal.
Posted by b on March 19, 2025 at 13:53 UTC | Permalink
But the MSM are trying to sell RF non compliance so trump will have a hard time showing it's ukraine's fault.
Can trump react to facts and not narrative? That will be the real question, if so he can cut-off ukraine from info and give RF a free hand for couple of weeks and a new surprise major win.
Rinse, repeat as needed until it ends.
Posted by: Newbie | Mar 19 2025 14:33 utc | 6
Rude words for Trumptards, from Caitlin (my emphasis):
Trump supporters will justify literally anything their president does using whatever excuses they need to, but they are only revealing how completely empty and unprincipled their political faction is. They are unthinking worshippers of power who go along with whatever the president tells them to. By continuing to support Trump even as he continues Biden’s legacy of mass murder in the middle east, they are proving themselves to be mindless stormtroopers for the empire in full view of the entire world.
Kinda reminds me of US American idiots I run into, from time to time.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 19 2025 14:39 utc | 7
The site the Nazis just hit is a joint project with the Americans in the Caspian I believe.
Zelensky is committed to burning every bridge.
The SMO has taught me that Ukrainians (Nazis?) are crazy and unfit for social participation.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 19 2025 14:39 utc | 8
The US summary states that the "leaders spoke broadly on the Middle East as a region of potential co-operation to prevent future conflicts.... The two leaders shared the view that Iran should never be in a position to destroy Israel."
(from Simplicus Simplicus , quoting an X post of Karoline Leavitt (WH Press Secy) ).
But the Russian summary given in the same Simplicus article) states nothing about the Middle East. Did they not discuss the current horrors in Gaza? Did not Putin urge Trump to force Israel to stop?
We need to be more critical of Russia's view on Gaza. Just because 1 million+ Russian jews are in Israel, we cannot condone Russia's "non action". The Ukraine issue pales in comparison to what is happening in Gaza. Unless Russia and China come out strongly taking action against Israel for its butchery (and not just say the right things in the UN Security Council), we must condemn Russia and China.
Posted by: gb_grave | Mar 19 2025 14:39 utc | 9
@5 These inane comments never cease to baffle me. It is glaringly obvious, that it is important for Russia to do this properly, e.g. always stay on the side of law, if possible. Always keep a minimum of diplomatic channels open and in general prefer treaties and and comprehensive new security architecture.
It is what sane and rational humans would do.
What you suggest is what socio- and psychopaths do.
Posted by: darkmoon | Mar 19 2025 14:44 utc | 10
Mike Waltz
https://x.com/MikeWaltz47/status/1902360162138255814
"I spoke today with my counterpart Yuri Ushakov about President Trump's efforts to end the war in Ukraine.
We agreed our technical teams would meet in Riyadh in the coming days for focus on implementing and expanding the partial ceasefire President Trump secured from Russia."
Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 19 2025 14:47 utc | 11
thanks for this clear overview of the dynamics b.. i know i won't be reading your insights anywhere else..
my question to the board... is the cia and friends trying to subvert and destroy trumps attempts at a resolution here?? it appears so to me..
Posted by: james | Mar 19 2025 14:54 utc | 12
Posted by: james | Mar 19 2025 14:54 utc | 12
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The British.
Many think the Deep State is an American phenomenon.
I think it is the elites of the Anglosphere that pull many strings.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 19 2025 14:56 utc | 13
Behind the scenes negotiations between all parties 24/7 for weeks now. As Rubio has stated repeatedly in press briefings … no veracity in public statements, press briefings 🥹 social media messages.
Keith Kellogg is appointed envoy to Ukraine now, not a negotiator …. difficult to track his travels and whereabouts … Volodymyr loves his European allies and gets buoyed into the stratosphere … as Merkel stated a few days ago … EU leaders are delusional … likely she won’t be quoted in the corporate war media.
My recent quote, finally for the Azov brigades in Donetsk: “Victory in Retreat.”
For a nation that's supposedly on the ropes, Ukraine has no fear and no need of a ceasefire.
Posted by: bored | Mar 19 2025 14:31 utc | 5
The Ukrainian Chabad Elders who are running this war have nothing to lose.
They can throw a million goy Ukranoids into the Russian meat grinder.
They can throw 10 million.
They'll never run out of dumb goys to plough into the black soil of Ukraine.
And you know what? When there's nobody left to send to the front they'll just instruct their little green gnome to make peace with Putin and take the remains of Ukraine - now purged of dumb goys.
They're already changing the laws to bring in migrant workers from the global south to replace all the dumb ukie goys who happily turned themselves into manure for their Jewish masters.
Whichever way this 'Special Military Operation' goes the Chabad Lubovitch wins. They even get a crack at reducing the Russian male population by a few hundred thousand - maybe more, if they play their cards right.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 19 2025 14:57 utc | 15
Russia is the one begging for it,Posted by: bored | Mar 19 2025 14:31 utc | 5
and there it is again, the nafo narrative management, even tho the whole world saw its the west begging russia to spare the lives of those in kursk and trying to get a ceasefire.
keep it up ursula!
Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 19 2025 14:58 utc | 16
@1
Violence to change civilian minds is the standard definition for terrorism .
Empire are terrorists
Posted by: paddy | Mar 19 2025 15:01 utc | 17
Ukraine Ceasefire 'Within Weeks' - Trump Envoy
https://www.rt.com/news/614498-ukraine-ceasefire-weeks-witkoff/
"A complete ceasefire in the Ukraine conflict will likely be implemented within 'a couple of weeks', US President Donald Trump's special envoy, Steve Witkoff, has stated.
He also said that sanctions imposed by Washington on Moscow will be relaxed once they reach an agreement.
Commenting on the phone call on Tuesday between Trump and his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin, Witkoff hailed the conversation as 'epic' and 'transformational'.
'I actually think in a couple of weeks we're gonna get to a ceasefire..."
Don't hold your breath.
Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 19 2025 15:01 utc | 18
Op-edder Thomas Friedman of the nytimes playfully insults the translators who worked w/ DJT and VVP on THE PHONECALL, stating that when DJT said “peace,” VVP’s translator delivered the word as “piece” on the Russian side—as in ‘We’ll take a *piece* of Ukraine.’ You know how those “homophones” are, as Friedman coyly says. He is of course too clever by half. First of all, the word ‘peace’ in Russian—-mir-—is not a homophone for the word ‘piece’ in Russia—kycok. Second of all, to Friedman’s endless chagrin no doubt, Russia has already taken many ‘куски’ of Ukraine, via constitutional referendum, since 2014—and there may be a couple choice куски remaining.
Primarily, Friedman, the op-edder, is suspicious: “Why would Trump enter negotiations with Putin and not bring our best leverage — our allies — with him?” Friedman, a megaphone for Regime Media, naturally cannot see the disingenuous way Sir Keir and Macron and Mette of Denmark are trying to widen the war by *forcing* the U.S. to become a backstop for European Reassurance Forces in Ukraine, which are tantamount to a light brigade of tripwire troops.
Leveraging allies — the biggest asset that Friedman thinks the U.S. has and which Putin does not — “is what smart statecraft is all about. Trump foolishly gives the back of his hand to our allies, while extending an open hand to Putin. That’s how you give up leverage.” Friedman, a Russiagater & Never Trumper from way back, could never in a million years believe that the UK has anything but the best democratic interests in manipulating the U.S. into expanding the war.
Friedman concludes in full fear-mongering mode: “Trump does not get that Putin is merely manipulating him to score Putin’s principal goal: diminish the U.S. international position, destroy its network of security alliances — most importantly in Europe — and destabilize the U.S. internally, thus making the world safe for Putin and Xi.”
And then he delivers what I’m sure he thinks will be the rhetorically killing blow, directed at DJT and JD: “If you sell out Ukraine to Putin, you will forever carry a mark of Cain on your foreheads as traitors to a core value that has animated U.S. foreign policy for 250 years — the defense of liberty against tyranny.”
Overall, Friedman does not betray an understanding that the U.S. is involved in a proxy war against Russia, and that its proxy, Ukraine, has lost the war to Russia, which means that Russia—as the victor—gets to set the terms of capitulation, liberty or tyranny be damned, whether Friedman likes it or not.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 19 2025 15:02 utc | 19
Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 19 2025 15:01 utc | 18
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24 hours ... 😂😂😂
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 19 2025 15:03 utc | 20
Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 19 2025 15:01 utc | 18
Well I suppose one way to frame a complete collapse of the AFU is as a "ceasefire" ...
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 19 2025 15:03 utc | 21
Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 19 2025 14:58 utc | 16
Ukraine has already violated the ceasefire deal and bombed a gas facility in Russia! Tell me again how Ukraine is on the ropes?
Posted by: bored | Mar 19 2025 15:08 utc | 22
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 19 2025 15:02 utc | 19
Bravo.....
Posted by: georgeg | Mar 19 2025 15:09 utc | 23
Posted by: WJ | Mar 19 2025 14:25 utc | 3
"As long as we are providing both arms and real-time satellite intelligence to Ukraine, we are encouraging their own violation of Trump’s proposed deescalation. I do not think this is part of a strategic plan in the Trump administration, but the result of competing influences in that administration on Trump. Right now the administration seems like it is trying to please everybody, and for that reason its actions are inept and self-cancelling."
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Great points.
Russia, as a belligerent, is singular, but has always fought an ensemble---the U.S.-led 32 members of NATO, plus the proxy Ukraine---which has always made for a crazy War By Bureaucracy aspect.
Although the ensemble has now unraveled considerably, the U.S. is straddling a Deep State cotillion within its own government which is aligned strongly w/ Sir Keir and Macron and Mette of Denmark. It's a Push Me-Pull You set-up.
DJT and his trusted team, singularly, is trying to conclude hostilities w/ Russia as his willing and singular opposite.
But the Deep Staters allied w/ the above-named Europeans are trying to ball up the works.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 19 2025 15:20 utc | 24
Putin kept Trump waiting for an hour after the scheduled start of the meeting while he hobnobbed with his Oligarchs. Trump cancelled the press conference he had scheduled right after the meeting. Shortly after the meeting Russia attacked Ukrainian energy infrastructure. Ukraine was not invited to the meeting.
Sounds like things went swimmingly!
Posted by: DButch | Mar 19 2025 15:22 utc | 25
Love Donbass@1456 Last day of Winter
Agreed. The American attack dog keeps wagging around, instigated by those British and Izzy tails.
Both of those vile entities have been OWNED by the Rottenchild Crime Clan in their haven , City of London...the former since 1815. The entire U$$A "legal" system is run by the "American" Bar Association, a mere subsidiary of Temple Bar in City of London. The majority of CongressCritter$ happen to be members of one certain profession. Do the math.
Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 19 2025 15:27 utc | 26
Ukraine is still targeting Crimea. Russia should not be negotiating to stay its hand while Ukraine has terrorists in charge. It will only prevent Russia from doing what is necessary to defeat Ukraine. And that is the only way for lasting peace.
Posted by: MiniMO | Mar 19 2025 15:28 utc | 27
IIRC, Friedman was an Obama hagiographer.
The NYT doesn't employ anyone worth a damn.
"You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy"
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 19 2025 15:30 utc | 28
John Gilberts@1501 Last day of Winter
Could the Russians possibly give one shivering shit about sanctions? Seems like their economy has surged, while employers are desperately seeking job holders...ever since those sanctions induced their government and economy to turn to domestic sourcing for their needs.
Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 19 2025 15:31 utc | 29
The US was in a depression in the 30s and the way that they got out was WWII. We are in a recession right now and have been since 2008. So has the rest of the West. I think this is the real reason for a WWIII. In addition to getting the war, the Jews will also get control of Russia’s immense wealth. The seemingly healthy economy we have is the result of massive manipulation of all kinds of financial markets. If the Jewish bankers don’t get this war pretty soon, then this economy is going to implode and they will have lost on their gamble of world control. Then Jesus will return but not the way most people think. Enoch 39:1 says,”In those says elect and holy children shall descend from the high heavens and their seed shall be one with man. Read the parable of the wheat and the tares and Apocalypse chapter 19.
Posted by: Boxwoodtree | Mar 19 2025 15:35 utc | 30
Putin got trolled by Ukraine in Minsk3 already.
Some people never learn.
Posted by: cafe_con_leche9 | Mar 19 2025 15:36 utc | 31
Steel Porcupine@1502 Last Day of Winter
Friedman is a product of his original environment...an AshcanaZi/Khazarian enclave in St. Louis, Park, Minnesota, the central suburb of North Minneapolis, the original destination for those migrants from the shtetls from within the Pale of Settlement; moderated only by a soupçon of highly civilized, mostly Sephardic German Jews.
That enclave became a hotbed of "chosenism" in Minnesota. Thus Friedman can be interpreted in the light of being a second or possibly third generation of shtetlites, deeply infused with Chabad Lubovitcher madness.
Thus, Friedman accentuates those qualities sought by the more than century owned NYT, aka the "Chew Pork $lymes.
Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 19 2025 15:42 utc | 32
TASS's March 19 military activities report makes it clear there's currently NO ceasefire. Bravo.
Posted by: elmagnostic | Mar 19 2025 15:44 utc | 33
V V P was I am sure very confident that Volo would never agree to a ceasefire on terms negotiated by himself and DJT.
The rejection of the no attacks on energy infrastructure was the tipoff. At this point Volo is listening to only one source of info....10 Downing Street and the crazed Latvian unicorn, and globalists running the Sir Keir government, with assistance from neo con Conservatives like Rishi.
So the planning and implementation for the RF Spring Zhukov Offensive will go forward, and soon Kherson in total and Odessa (including all the Black Sea ports) in particular will be in RF control.
The Kurshk misadventure has now pumped the well of veteran infantry and armor units dry, for Volo the only reason to keep fighting is the UK push for total war, and his fear that Azov "boys" will eliminate him if he does not..........
Posted by: tobias cole | Mar 19 2025 15:50 utc | 34
Posted by: DButch | Mar 19 2025 15:22 utc | 25
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As I mentioned yesterday, the call lasted only 1:28:15, and yes DJT waited nearly an hour for VVP, who then lectured DJT.
Posted by: pepe | Mar 19 2025 15:54 utc | 35
@ LoveDonbass | Mar 19 2025 14:56 utc | 13
thanks ld... yes, i share your viewpoint here.. the brits, or is it the city of london? appear to be heavily involved here.. i see that @ aristodemos | Mar 19 2025 15:27 utc | 26 directly references my viewpoint as well.. thanks guys...
Posted by: james | Mar 19 2025 15:58 utc | 36
So, Putin agreed to cease attacks on energy infrastructure during the call with Trump and immediately ordered the Russian military to cease such attacks. Importantly, this was without first obtaining Ukraine's agreement that they would reciprocate.
To make matters worse, according to TG channels, the Russian military shot down 7 of their own drones / missiles that were already in the air on their way to various Ukrainian targets.
Worse still, is that apparently despite Ukraine attacking energy facilities since the Putin/Trump call, it's reported that Russia will still observe the ceasefire from its side.
I guess this is more of that 5D chess I keep hearing about. Noone should be surprised when a Minsk 3.0 agreement is soon announced and Russia will be re-fighting this war in a few years time once Ukraine has been built back up again. 5D chess = Idiocy.
Posted by: Jax | Mar 19 2025 16:05 utc | 38
@ pepe | Mar 19 2025 16:01 utc | 37
lol.. the shit show continues, until it doesn't..
Posted by: james | Mar 19 2025 16:09 utc | 39
Boxwoodtree@1535 Last Day of Winter
Kudos for starting out with some sensible ideas. However, then you devolve into the Abrahamic Religious nonsense.
Organized religion is spiritually inert, both ossified and petrified from its Jesusite origins in the instance "Holy" Mother Church and her numerous Bible-thumping evangelicalistic piglets. If there is to come a "Second Coming", it will not be in the form of a single individual...rather numberless awakeners into the Christed statement: "The Father is Within".
My advice: Get yourself a copy of the GOSPEL of Thomas...the cornerstone which was rejected by the "builder", the Roman Emperor Constantine, whose employees both redacted and interpolated the ancient Scriptures in order to create a "Holy" bible in accordance with the wishes and intent of the EMPEROR OF ROME.
Yes, it is true that the Emperor struck back at the Jesusites and created CROSStianity as his fake religion as a cornerstone of the imperial intent. No truly spiritual religion would feature a "god" who favors a "CHOSEN PEOPLE". Total Bullshit.
Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 19 2025 16:14 utc | 40
Friedman is a product of his original environment...an AshcanaZi/Khazarian enclave in St. Louis, Park, Minnesota, the central suburb of North Minneapolis,
Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 19 2025 15:42 utc | 32
Mmmmm....St. Louis Park is not in north Mpls. It's west of D/T.
My best friend lives there. I grew up near Minnehaha Academy but moved far, faraway in my early 20's - so b4 I'd had any notions/knowledge about the religious enclaves of Mn.
Interesting.
Someone should write a book. But not Friedman. Friedman's a dick.
Posted by: drinky crow | Mar 19 2025 16:20 utc | 41
pepe@1601 Last day of Winter.
V: Uk special forces posted to Kiev. Please fill us in on some details. Highly probable that R.U. satellite intel will be of fine assistance for their missile forces to do the proper targeting.
Whitehall, Downing Street and The City require rapid black-eyes responding to their nefarious intents.
Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 19 2025 16:21 utc | 42
These are the days of trivial minutiae. Russia is not "negotiating" for anything, in the sense we generally think of that term. Russia is just talking, welcoming the chance to get the US back into the habit of talking, and telling things that may take hold into US policy.
And inevitably, talking with Russia results in hammering pitons into an ice crevasse on a mountainside that one attempts to climb - step by step, but each piton is immovable, and eventually one may reach the top. Never forget what a US official once said, that negotiating with the Russians is like buying the same horse twice ;)
If it continues, then when the talking is clear enough, and when the circumstances in the western half have aligned sufficiently for its own spun announcements, Russia will be shown to have presented its terms of capitulation and the US will be shown to have agreed. And this will be revealed by the US claim of "Victory!"
But even this is only a part of the greater necessity. A new security architecture across all of Europe as it abuts to Russia is required. Trump, a month ago, perhaps had some power to push Europe around enough to achieve this - potentially.
How greatly he's squandering his capital being a Zionist dupe remains to be seen. He is holding a very good plan (even though one accepts that he himself did not create or envision it - but he was the one who could win the election), but it's not clear if he has the character to see the plan through.
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As an aside, as others here note, out of this does come more clearly the City of London aspect, and the old, old Talmudic aspect. One day, as Alex Krainer reminds us that Lord Acton told us, one day the people are going to have to deal with these bankers. And I would call them synonymous with war mongers.
So, perhaps things will get done in this passage, or perhaps it's only failure of the good plans to reject at least a small portion of that great enemy force. And perhaps such a failure would bring the enmity to light clearly enough this time for the next passage - whatever that is - to begin to grapple with it.
Posted by: Grieved | Mar 19 2025 16:22 utc | 43
Jax@1605 Last day of Winter
Are those rumors true about you being a concern troll? How do you plea?
Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 19 2025 16:23 utc | 44
Any relation between the “22 seriously wounded prisoners of war in need of urgent medical assistance” Russia handed over and the Hungarian Embraer C-390 Millennium transport that's just left Constanta?
https://www.flightradar24.com/HUF843/3989939c
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 19 2025 16:27 utc | 45
Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 19 2025 16:23 utc | 44
Are those rumours about you being a retard true? How do you plea?
Posted by: Jax | Mar 19 2025 16:31 utc | 46
"The configurations that the Hungarian Defence Forces ordered include the Intensive Care Unit (ICU) kit, enabling Hungary to provide intensive care medicine in humanitarian missions abroad."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embraer_C-390_Millennium
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 19 2025 16:32 utc | 47
Zelensky knowing that Putin and Trump are now talking - has been doing a bit of sabre rattling today, along side the Finnish PM - Zelensky has been promising that Ukraine will win this war - and that he will taking a call from US POTUS Trump today.
Meanwhile - Trumps mouthpiece (Envoy) Steve Witoff - has said they'll be a ceasefire deal within weeks.
Only in America.
"Republican lawmakers in Minnesota have introduced a bill seeking to amend state law to classify ‘Trump Derangement Syndrome’ (TDS) as a mental disorder. The proposal defines TDS as a condition affecting individuals who react irrationally to US President Donald Trump’s policies and presidency.
The term ‘Trump Derangement Syndrome’ has been widely used by Trump supporters and conservative commentators to describe strongly negative reactions to the Republican leader.
The Minnesota bill was introduced on Monday by five GOP lawmakers who proposed adding TDS to the state’s official list of mental disorders, defining it as “the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal persons that is in reaction to the policies and presidencies of President Donald J. Trump.”"
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 19 2025 16:32 utc | 48
Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 19 2025 16:21 utc | 42
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Already in Kiev ahead of the deployment of troops. Tomorrow, a meeting will decide the operational details assuming all goes to plan. Whitehall walls need fresh paint.
Posted by: pepe | Mar 19 2025 16:32 utc | 49
I keep reading conflicting reports on the length for the Trump/Putin call yesterday. I am reading 90 minutes and over 2.5 hours.
If it was only 90 minutes that says one thing but if 2.5 hours that says something else, eh? What was it? Is it a state secret?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 19 2025 16:33 utc | 50
DrinkyCrow@1620 Last Day of Winter
Of course St. Lewis Park is not a PART of North Mpls. It is a western suburb of that district of the city. Agreed that "Friedman is a Dick". Obvious that he does not possess a COCK as his original equipment was eviscerated on his 8th day of his current life by a Mohel who severed his man-hood and thusly re-engineered the organ in order to make him markedly one of the "Chosen".
According to the late Dr. Leonard Schlain, a Jewish brain surgeon and polymath...the core essence of Judiac singularity is the ritualistic "Bris"...in which he is violently taken away from his loving, doting mother by his father and other men and taken to a separate room where the ritual takes place.
This understanding is subtly evinced by Bob Dylan in his Highway 61 Revisited album, where Abraham agrees to Yahweh's threats and "has it OUT on Highway 61". Highway 61, also known as Superior Street is the major artery of Duluth, being both Dylan's birthplace and probably the precise location where Abie Baby did the dirty deed.
P.S. Back in the 60's I had a couple of friends who lived in your old scene. Nice neighborhood...quiet and laid back as River Road traffic is pretty light these days.
Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 19 2025 16:37 utc | 51
Posted by: bored | Mar 19 2025 14:31 utc | 5
For a nation that's supposedly on the ropes, Ukraine has no fear and no need of a ceasefire. It looks like Russia is the one begging for it, so the Ukrainian drones stop destroying its energy infrastructure. This is crazy, no one would have thought it would have turned out like this 3 years ago or that the war would have even lasted this long.
?? bored is this not the airhead from
Posted by: bored | Aug 11 2024 14:05 utc | 5
.............................................
My prediction, Putin is gone (one way or another) by the end of the year and Russia is forced into a humiliating peace agreement.
Posted by: ghiwen | Mar 19 2025 16:39 utc | 52
Grieved@1622 Last day of Winter...but not for the Aussies and Kiwis along with the rest of the Global South.
Fascinating and meeting the probability factorization perspective. Thanks for the insights.
Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 19 2025 16:40 utc | 53
Always remember that Ukraine including Zelensky has been controlled by the US.
So, everything that Ukraine does has the approval of the US. They are playing both
sides of the fence ...and the World.
republicofscotland@1632 Last day of Winter and eve of the Vernal Equinox
Kinda incredible, eh? Republican lawmakers in Manysnowta actually possessing a sense of humor. Never would I have believed that in past years. "Trump Derangement Syndrome". Little did they realize that such a sobriquet would actually be best interpreted metaphorically as a two-edged sword. More proof that U$$A Kult-Sure is clinically insane.
So SABOTAGE SERIOUSNE$$.
Ridicule and irony are some of the most powerful antidote to those stuffed suits and tied-necks. Excuse me, but I'm tremendously proud of the fact that I've never been obliged to wear a necktie since I was fired on my final professional journalist JOB in May of '73.
Public schools are excellent tools for teaching rules to fools.
Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 19 2025 16:49 utc | 55
Just a thought on Russia's proposed acceptance of part of Zelensky's original suggestion about a cease fire in the air and on the seas -- followed by Russia apparently shooting down its own drones that had been launched before President Putin issued the cease & desist order:
Maybe Russia was trying to find out how closely linked Zelensky and the US are?
President Putin has the power to order Russia immediately to stop firing missiles at certain targets in the Ukraine. Does President Trump have the same authority over stopping Zelensky firing missiles at Russian energy targets (even when this was part of a proposal originally from Zelensky)? Apparently, the answer is ... NO!
And now Russia has determined the limits of US power over Zelensky. Useful knowledge!
Posted by: Gavin Longmuir | Mar 19 2025 16:51 utc | 56
Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 19 2025 16:33 utc | 50
Missing time was used to chat about hockey. Maybe Trump was sipping a beer or a whiskey while Putin was having a vodka just as two buddies on an evening chat.
Posted by: Mario | Mar 19 2025 16:55 utc | 57
As Grieved notes, it's good the Americans are at least talking to the Russians, but until the Ukrainians join the chat nothing of substance will be obtained regarding the SMO and Russia will just keep on chugging. As for the complaint that Trump was forced to wait an hour, that doesn't hold water because it was well known Putin's schedule had him addressing the plenary session of the "34th Annual Congress of the Russian Union of Industrialists and Entrepreneurs", which would then be followed by its usual closed door session that Putin also always attends. And it's made very clear that the businesspeople were well aware of the important task Putin had after their meeting. Clearly, the sour grapes came from the losing side in the conflict that's having a very difficult time adjusting to being on the losing end--of no longer having Primacy.
The situation: Trump wants to end the Outlaw US Empire's involvement in the Aggressive War it launched against Ukraine and its Russian speaking populous in 2014, but between then and now the Ukrainian government gained a sovereign status as proven by the two Minsk agreements and the aborted 2022 treaty. So, Ukraine must be included in the negotiations, but Zelensky doesn't want to negotiate for reasons only he knows; and so far, Trump hasn't been able to force him to accomodate to his demands. Meanwhile, Russia's position is very well known, and it holds all the cards relative to both Zelensky and Trump. Putin offers to stop attacks on Ukie energy facilities, but Trump is unable to get Zelensky to comply with that very small deal and thus shows his genuine weakness.
Until Zelensky is replaced by someone willing to negotiate with Russia, this stalemate and the SMO will continue. It appears that chore is a lot harder for Team Trump than abetting Genocide or making unprovoked attacks on Yemen or trying to provoke Iran, so it does those latter things which only prove--again--that the Empire's word is worthless.
Gavin Longmuir | Mar 19 2025 16:51 utc | 56
"President Putin has the power to order Russia immediately to stop firing missiles at certain targets in the Ukraine. Does President Trump have the same authority over stopping Zelensky firing missiles at Russian energy targets (even when this was part of a proposal originally from Zelensky)? Apparently, the answer is ... NO!
And now Russia has determined the limits of US power over Zelensky. Useful knowledge!"
Why do you think the Ukrainian strike was done without Trump's approval? Maybe Trump was probing the limits of Putin's willingness to make unilateral unreciprocated concessions.
Zelensky may possibly be out of control, but until the US cuts off the kokhols once and for all I'm sticking with the default that he's doing what the US wants him to do.
Posted by:
Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Mar 19 2025 17:12 utc | 59
Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 19 2025 17:08 utc | 58
I think that it would be simpler.
Let USA cut all and forever all aid to Ukraine and give a green light to RF to send some conventional rocket to European minions if they step in.
If this doesn't happen, and it will not happen, is because USA is not really interested, or eventually unable, to stop the war.
Posted by: Mario | Mar 19 2025 17:14 utc | 60
Arch Bungle @15,
You have nailed it right on the head, and all of the hate infused Ashkenazis in the West (and their shabbos goys) are backing that play. Why, some of them are even related to President Trump…
Posted by: JerseyJeffersonian | Mar 19 2025 17:15 utc | 61
looks like the Hungarian (medevac?) plane from Constanta in Romania is landing at a Hungarian base just outside Budapest.
Good politics and good humanity to treat the seriously injured. I imagine Polish and Romanian hospitals are already kept busy.
Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 19 2025 17:25 utc | 62
Zelensky knowing that Putin and Trump are now talking
Without any input from Ukraine? How colonialist of them. Are Canada, Greenland, and the Panama Canal next for Putin/Trump unilateral talks?
Posted by: DButch | Mar 19 2025 17:26 utc | 63
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If it was only 90 minutes that says one thing but if 2.5 hours that says something else, eh? What was it? Is it a state secret?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 19 2025 16:33 utc | 50
We're on the same page, psychoH.
The purported transcripts from US and RF released to date don't come close to adding up to 2 hours of conversation.
Imo VVP decided not to take Donald Z Trump's overtures too seriously and spent most of the time apologising for laughing out loud every time Trump said something silly.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 19 2025 17:29 utc | 64
I keep reading conflicting reports on the length for the Trump/Putin call yesterday. I am reading 90 minutes and over 2.5 hours.
If it was only 90 minutes that says one thing but if 2.5 hours that says something else, eh? What was it? Is it a state secret?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 19 2025 16:33 utc | 50
The Russian read-out stated there was a 'frank exchange of views'
That says a possible verbal confrontation between the pair possibly over arms supplies, perhaps not as out of control as the Zelensky Oval office fiasco, but perhaps not too far off it.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Mar 19 2025 17:34 utc | 65
b .........sorry.......BUT......How can you believe this garbage ??????
Other attempts to broker a deal have also foundered in the past. Four Ukrainian officials told the Financial Times that Kyiv and Moscow had come to a “tacit agreement” last autumn to not strike each other’s energy facilities.As a result, Russia that winter refrained from the type of large-scale attacks it had conducted on Ukraine’s power infrastructure in 2022-23, according to two Ukrainian officials and a person in Washington with knowledge of the situation.
Ukraine and Russia are in preliminary discussions about halting strikes on each other’s energy infrastructure, according to people familiar with the matter.Kyiv was seeking to resume Qatar-mediated negotiations that came close to agreement in August before being derailed by Ukraine’s invasion of Kursk, said the people, who included senior Ukrainian officials.
all you have to do is look at the reports that note the respective attacks !!!!
lets start with
22.09.2023
www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/russia-resumes-bombing-campaign-of-ukraines-civilian-energy-infrastructure/
....In the early hours of September 21, Russia launched a wave of airstrikes targeting Ukraine’s energy infrastructure.
....The resumption of Russia’s energy infrastructure attacks on September 21 was widely anticipated as the Kremlin seeks to further weaken Ukraine ahead of the coming winter season...
....These air strikes were far from unprecedented. Ukraine’s electricity grid operator, Ukrenergo, said Thursday’s Russian bombardment was the first major enemy attack on the country’s power infrastructure in six months, marking the resumption of an earlier campaign that began in October 2022 and saw Russia targeting civilian infrastructure in an effort to freeze Ukraine into submission....
till ( for example )
23.02.2024
https://dtek.com/en/media-center/news/ukraines-dtek-commits-to-new-energy-system-but-warns-of-attac/
DTEK facilities (grids and power stations) have already been attacked 150 times in 2024
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ironically is in your link to FT another link ( also FT )
it's about Zelensky
If Moscow and Kyiv agreed to end strikes on their respective energy infrastructures, it would be a significant step towards de-escalating the conflict, Zelenskyy said in reference to Ukrainian drone attacks on Russian oil refineries.
“We saw during the first [peace] summit that there could be a decision on energy security. In other words: we do not attack their energy infrastructures, they don’t attack ours. Could this lead to the end of the war’s hot phase? I think so,” he said.
Posted by: ghiwen | Mar 19 2025 17:38 utc | 66
Zelensky confirms that the energy infrastructure ceasfire is not yet in place from the Ukro side
Posted by: Night Tripper | Mar 19 2025 17:40 utc | 67
Bored and Vargas are our Thomson and Thompson.
To be precise, I’d say they are our Thompson and Thomson.
Posted by: Leuk | Mar 19 2025 17:49 utc | 68
Ambassador Andrei Kelin’s interview with Channel 4 presenter Krishnan Guru-Murthy, 18 March 2025 ==> https://youtu.be/y0cRcekQuQw
Posted by the Russian Embassy in London.
Posted by: too scents | Mar 19 2025 17:52 utc | 69
Ukraine has already violated the ceasefire deal and bombed a gas facility in Russia! Tell me again how Ukraine is on the ropes?Posted by: bored | Mar 19 2025 15:08 utc | 22
as you can see in the quoted text that i provided in the previous post, i have addressed your blatant nafo lie about "russia begging", nowhere have i said anything about "ukraine beeing on the ropes".
if you have issues with reading, just say so. i know english is hard, its not my first language. but even i understand how quotes work. keep on nafo'ing ursula.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 19 2025 18:03 utc | 70
Absolutely every statement by ShElenski is formulated by the British Crown hierarchy and their PR buddies from Public School days - the fact is they can’t help writing it in correct English! So that it sounds … correct!
And ends up completely making The Russian thinking Green Goblin sound like Mr Bean!
That’s what most of them pride themselves on - the petty bourgeois aristo learning correct grammar and some classics or imperialist henchmen (and women).
🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡 are all that stand behind the dumb proxy ukropians
🤡 to the left and right to 🤡 making them charge into the canons directly ahead !
There is only one enduring outcome they will take away from this the million new graves covering immense acreages, visible from space, which they will want to use to brainwash some future generations to go and avenge!
Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 19 2025 18:06 utc | 71
'President Zelenskyy asked for additional air defense systems to protect his civilians, particularly Patriot missile systems, and President Trump agreed to work with him to find what was available, particularly in Europe.'
Game over, Trump has gone full neo-con and not even prenteding otherwise. Putin once said he would rather have the Dems win, as they were more predictable. At least you knew what you were dealing with.
What we have with Trump is some kind of sad wolf in sheeps clothing act, which I think Putin with his rejection of the 'piss plan' yesterday, has seen through.
Posted by: Night Tripper | Mar 19 2025 18:10 utc | 72
Ticker message on German TV
Trump proposes returning the power plants in Ukraine...
P.S.
There was no mention of this in yesterday's transcript
Posted by: berthold | Mar 19 2025 18:13 utc | 73
Ticker message on German TV
Trump proposes returning the power plants in Ukraine...
And only now, after a conversation with Sylenski...
apparently, he pushed him for it!
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There was no mention of this in yesterday's transcript.
Trump probably had to make Sylenski an offer to get him to agree to the deal with the energy plants.
Another point where Trump will fail!
Biden was actually more predictable despite his dementia; things will get interesting with Trump.
Posted by: Ost Rentner | Mar 19 2025 18:17 utc | 74
Mario | Mar 19 2025 17:14 utc | 60--
Thanks for your reply. Yes, it is a matter of will. But there's also the big problem of fulfilling your very demonstrative campaign and post-election boasts to end the war ASAP if you're Trump. Plus, he said he would be a peace president but has broken that pledge with his attack on Yemen. And then there's a huge amount of discontent with Trump's domestic policies from within his own camp. Trump's already in deep shit and we haven't even gone two months. Trump has a losing hand that's even weaker now than on 20 January. IMO, he's in over his head.
Posted by: DButch | Mar 19 2025 15:22 utc | 25
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Posted by: pepe | Mar 19 2025 15:54 utc | 35
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It is evident that THE PHONECALL lasted 1:28:15, of which DJT waited 1:14:05 of that time, and them when VVP came on the line he asked if DJT wanted to order the salad from the menu or the compote.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 19 2025 18:19 utc | 76
The British.
Many think the Deep State is an American phenomenon.
I think it is the elites of the Anglosphere that pull many strings.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 19 2025 14:56 utc | 13
Finally. Bravo LD. It's good to see others come up to the same conclusion and forward it. There are reasons I've describing the 5-eyed monstrosity as the Anglo-American empire, as this is a class issue that involves the elites of the old British empire that amalgamated with those of the US.
I would go further and point out that the true source of the misanthropic evil that the globalist regime represents is to be found in Britain. There is true malevolence and sociopathy in its ruling elite.
Posted by: Constantine | Mar 19 2025 18:31 utc | 77
Zelensky has said that he backs the US proposal to halt all strikes on energy facilities in the context of the Ukraine war (after the call with trump)
ha, yeah right.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 19 2025 18:31 utc | 78
Yulia "the braid" Timochenko was the only Ukrainian DJT invited to his inauguration in the Rotunda, which has led prognosticators to speculate that she is the preferred replacement of Zelensky as an Interim Preisdent until elections can happen.
If you glance back in Timochenko's political successes, you find she swung major gas deals for Ukraine w/ Russia when she was the president, even skimming enough off the top herself to earn the handle The Gas Princess, or #thegasprincess, if you like.
Obviously her working relationship w/ Russia in the past situates her as someone who could reasonably steward matters forward as an interim president in the post-Zelensky period. It is likely that she would be more amenable to swinging deals which Zelensky refuses to do. In this, she represents a more flexible Bankhova executive than what we find now.
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Wondering if a capable member of DJT's team is steering matters toward Timochenko, perhaps giving the high sign.
In between talking about hockey matches and whether to order salad or compote from the menu, I can believe DJT and VVP might have reached consonance on the Timochenko angle.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 19 2025 18:35 utc | 79
Posted by: Constantine | Mar 19 2025 18:31 utc | 78
RE: Deep State's Brit origins
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A hospice-ready empire on the verge of kicking the bucket and a moribund empire in steep decline walk into a bar...
(but not this bar)
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 19 2025 18:38 utc | 80
F-16 shot down
Report from two majors:
Technically, the F-16 was shot down by an S-400 air defense crew, but the Su-35S illuminated the target.
Posted by: Ost Rentner | Mar 19 2025 18:39 utc | 81
With all the talk on Ukraine soil i find it really suspect that no one interviewed by Judge Nap or Dima has anything to say on either Sudan or Eastern Congo.
Posted by: Tom | Mar 19 2025 18:43 utc | 82
Scuttlebutt has it that 30 NATO officers are trapped still in Kursk or have already been captured, along with a high percentage of NATO troops: DJT knows this; Sir Keir knows this; Mark Rutte knows this; and Russia knows this, because they've got the proof---either dead, captured or trapped.
However, it is said that Russia will not blow the lid off the matter, exhibiting the evidence of NATO's actual explicit involvement in Kursk---NATO's act of war against Russia---because to do so now would put the kibosh on *negotiations.*
However, Russia can nonetheless use the facts of the matter as a shadow chit in negotiations at some point, saying more or less, "Hey, listen--NATO has been involved in this act of war against us--so we're going to need x,y & z from NATO in order to settle the matter quietly." In other words, this allows Russia to seek redress from NATO, not merely Ukraine. Perhaps Russia will call for the removal of Aegis systems close to its borders.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 19 2025 18:56 utc | 83
The self-drone-shooting of Kremlin had a reason which was revealed now. Putin is not allowed to touch Trumpy's new properties.
"Trump's press secretary - This is exactly what the US President thinks. US ownership of Ukraine's energy facilities will be the best protection for this type of infrastructure"
( en.topwar.ru/261491-belyj-dom-luchshaja-garantija-bezopasnosti-dlja-jenergoobektov-ukrainy-ih-perehod-vo-vladenie-ssha.html )
Posted by: rk | Mar 19 2025 19:09 utc | 84
DJT has repeatedly said that Joe got the U.S. horribly mired in a war that never would have begun had DJT been in office, regardless of his supplying the Javelins.
DJT as the President of the Moment is the only one who can help VVP end the war, however unskilled DJT is for this complexity. And DJT is the only belligerent in the war who has lifted a finger toward diplomacy, however poorly prepared DJT is to carry out such a thing.
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As such, VVP has to *teach* DJT *how* to end the war, and Lavrov has to *teach* Sec Rubio et al *how* to conclude hostilities.
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VVP's team, including of course Lavrov, who sets the gold standard for negotiating, has never ceased diplomacy, but the U.S., in its uni-polar hegemonic primacy, ceased engaging diplomatically decades ago.
It's as if the U.S. thought Color Revolutions were diplomacy.
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As VVP told Tucker during their sit-down more than a year ago: "They don't know how to end the war." At the time of his saying this, VVP could not look across the Collective West and find one figure who would actually speak w/ him, outside Viktor Orban, equal-to-equal.
What a difference a year makes, right-?
Now, the Hegemonic Daddy wants to play.
Willingness is everything.
You can't play the game if you don't know the rules. In important ways, VVP and his team have to *teach* DJT and his team *how it is done*
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 19 2025 19:13 utc | 85
393 / 5.000
Trump apparently applied pressure today:
RT reports:
Vladimir Zelensky has agreed to US President Donald Trump's proposal not to attack the energy infrastructure of either side of the conflict in Ukraine. Bloomberg reports this, citing informed sources.
According to the sources, Zelensky announced this decision during his phone call with Trump on March 19.
Posted by: smartfox | Mar 19 2025 19:22 utc | 86
@86
All wars end!
One side either collapses gets worn out or recognizes their end goal is not going to happen.
Trump needs to see which of the three he wants to obtain, bc Russia it is existential.
The EU wants collapse, that is bad for Kiev, and US if U.S. cannot select “we cannot get what the neocon want”.
Trump is yet to show he wants to get out of the quagmire.
Posted by: paddy | Mar 19 2025 19:23 utc | 87
Putin has been playing Trump masterfully.
They talk and Trump gets NOTHING. Putin can filibuster like an American Senator.
The Russian sovereign fund guy talks about working with Musk.
It's endless ego-stroking as Russia continues to degrade Ukraine and recover territory.
Brilliant!
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 19 2025 19:28 utc | 88
Don't forget that the Kremlin's master strategy is to bankrupt Washington. And to that effect it's working because DJT is in charge of the Titanic.
Posted by: pepe | Mar 19 2025 19:39 utc | 89
30 NATO officers are trapped still in Kursk or have already been captured, along with a high percentage of NATO troops Perhaps Russia will call for the removal of Aegis systems close to its borders.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 19 2025 18:56 utc | 84
Your logic is based on a rumor that there may be officers captured simply because Trumpy told Putin to release all involved in Kursk. Putin has probably released them already, the guy risked pilots' life to shot down his own drones just to please Trump, right in the minute Trump ordered him to do so, not even an hour later. I surprised he didn't kamikaze the pilot in the flying drone.
According to the same rumors Russia is capturing Nato generals since Mariupol days and even if true, it has never changed anything.
As long as the largest Nato base ever is still in construction in Romania, no Aegis will go, more will appear. They do the same thing in Japan and all around China, heavy expansion of bases, nukes everywhere. Brics club of losers will soon have to ask for permission to fart.
Posted by: rk | Mar 19 2025 19:47 utc | 90
There will be no Minsk 3.
VVP is assiduously gentling the negotiation process forward in incremental bits, tackling matters in a piecemeal fashion, forestalling any large/sudden moves that would allow an opening for the UK, France & Denmark to swoop in w/ Reassurance Forces whose purpose would be to serve only as tripwire troops for expanding the war.
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Additionally, the Kremlin readout emphasized that the U.S. and Russia will continue forward with "bilateral talks," meaning the talks would exclude other entities, whether European or Ukrainian. Expert teams will start meeting in Saudi Arabia, in order to tackle the other incremental elements of the peace process--and these teams will be composed of Russian and American diplomats.
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The Kremlin's readout is quite clear about the "barbarity and terrorism" that happened against citizens in the Kursk Region during their time under occupation by NATO mercs and fig-leaf Ukrainian troops (read: NATO troops primarily.) So it was good to spread the word far & wide about the atrocities which happened there.
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Moreover, in DJT's sit-down w/ Laura Ingraham on Fox News several hours after THE PHONECALL, DJT said, "Russia has the advantage." He meant specifically in regard to the 2500 soldiers surrounded in Kursk--but I believe it is possible to read between the lines on that comment.
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So the vassals and the proxy are largely/significantly *sidelined* in the ongoing negotiations between the Russian and American diplomats.
From the vassals, however, one might look for sabotage, especially hailing from the Baguette quadrant and from the Fish 'n Chips quadrant.
The restaurant dishing out those menu items is scary indeed.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 19 2025 19:52 utc | 91
It is glaringly obvious, that it is important for Russia to do this properly, e.g. always stay on the side of law, if possible. Always keep a minimum of diplomatic channels open and in general prefer treaties and and comprehensive new security architecture.
It is what sane and rational humans would do.
What you suggest is what socio- and psychopaths do.
Posted by: darkmoon | Mar 19 2025 14:44 utc | 10
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It's starting to sound like Putin is having to spend a lot of hours on the phone with Trump.
Maybe he needs a body double to reduce the new workload.
Posted by: Jane | Mar 19 2025 19:55 utc | 92
It is glaringly obvious, that it is important for Russia to do this properly, e.g. always stay on the side of law, if possible. Always keep a minimum of diplomatic channels open and in general prefer treaties and and comprehensive new security architecture.
It is what sane and rational humans would do.
What you suggest is what socio- and psychopaths do.
Posted by: darkmoon | Mar 19 2025 14:44 utc | 10
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It's starting to sound like Putin is having to spend a lot of hours on the phone with Trump.
Maybe he needs a body double to reduce the new workload.
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RE
"The British.
Many think the Deep State is an American phenomenon.
I think it is the elites of the Anglosphere that pull many strings.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 19 2025 14:56 utc | 13
Finally. Bravo LD. It's good to see others come up to the same conclusion and forward it. There are reasons I've describing the 5-eyed monstrosity as the Anglo-American empire, as this is a class issue that involves the elites of the old British empire that amalgamated with those of the US.
I would go further and point out that the true source of the misanthropic evil that the globalist regime represents is to be found in Britain. There is true malevolence and sociopathy in its ruling elite.
Posted by: Constantine | Mar 19 2025 18:31 utc | 78
The go-to person on this is Alex Krainer---after him, Tom Luongo and Mathew Ehret (in his Canadian Patriot persona).
Posted by: Jane | Mar 19 2025 20:04 utc | 93
This is "Funny" because I have read/heared somewhere else that Zelensky/Ukraine did accept this limited "Cease Fire".
Posted by: WMG | Mar 19 2025 20:16 utc | 94
@ steel_porcupine | Mar 19 2025 18:56 utc | 84
we hear about this regularly, but generally nothing to back it up.. alas, another poster repeating the mantra, lol...
@ Jane | Mar 19 2025 20:04 utc | 94
alex krainer has indeed been articulating this for some time.. it is not lost on some posters at moa either..
Posted by: james | Mar 19 2025 20:18 utc | 95
Posted by: Constantine | Mar 19 2025 18:31 utc | 78
#############
The European elites have been intermarrying for a long time.
The British, French, Spanish, Portuguese, and Dutch have caused untold harm (that still reverberates) in the world.
Interestingly enough, the Germans and Italians have not been big on colonialism like the others.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 19 2025 20:33 utc | 96
Posted by: rk | Mar 19 2025 19:47 utc | 91
Your logic is based on nothing.
Risk pilots?
Of the allegedly 7 drones, 6 were downed by AD, no pilots involved. The last from a fighter jet, no one knows where it was. For what you know the jet could be nowhere near any treat that afu could pose to the jet.
Posted by: Mario | Mar 19 2025 20:35 utc | 97
Putin has been playing Trump masterfully.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 19 2025 19:28 utc | 89
Not just Trump. He knows exactly how crybaby Z and the yippy EU chihuahua's will react and they never disappoint, all readily illustrating their hypocrisy to the world over and over again.
The Russians are the absolute masters of diplomacy.
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Mar 19 2025 20:44 utc | 98
For what you know the jet could be nowhere near any treat that afu could pose to the jet.
Posted by: Mario | Mar 19 2025 20:35 utc | 98
Very little left in AFU that could pose a threat to an RF jet as it is, perhaps beyond the odd manpads which are probably only available to handpicked units. Ukrainian AD is essentially non-existent these days.
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Mar 19 2025 20:47 utc | 99
The Coalition of the Willing, deemed a “complex, risky & ineffective” prospect by Meloni is now known as the Coalition of the Super-Enthusiastic Three, composed of the Baguette quadrant, the Fish ’n Chips quadrant and the Smørrebrød quadrant. This latter, the Smørrebrød, is on the verge of fighting a two-front war, what with DJT’s hegemonic sights on Greenland.
The Baguette quadrant, led by the peripatetic Baguette-in-Chief, the estimable Macron, will take an active role in fortifying the *peace* in Ukraine, but before they do the Baguette-in-Chief has devised a 1 trillion Euro plan for creating an EU bloc Defense Fund to be run out of Brussels and managed by none other than Ursula herself—arming Europe in order to avoid war.
Deindustrializing Europe includes financializing Europe—controlling the political, controlling the judicial, controlling the weaponry and burying the entire bloc under an avalanche of debt.
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The tail that is trying to wag the dog is a self-docked tail.
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 19 2025 20:48 utc | 100
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Bugdanov, head of Ukrainian equivalent of CIA:
Posted by: Passerby | Mar 19 2025 14:03 utc | 1