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March 30, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-066
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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A limo from Putin’s motorcade reportedly exploded a few blocks from FSB hqs Posted by: Mary | Mar 30 2025 14:48 utc | 1 Posted by: Mary | Mar 30 2025 14:48 utc | 1 Posted by: unimperator | Mar 30 2025 14:50 utc | 2 Does anyone have an archived version of the NY Times limited hangout on the US control of the war? Posted by: wagelaborer | Mar 30 2025 15:15 utc | 3 Oh wait, never mind. B posted it on the weekly thread. Posted by: wagelaborer | Mar 30 2025 15:17 utc | 4 Sorry to keep posting, but does anyone have that NY Times article without the paywall? Posted by: wagelaborer | Mar 30 2025 15:22 utc | 5 NBC news reports that DJT is “pissed off” @ VVP on account of VVP’s questioning Zelensky’s legitimacy as Ukraine’s president—and NBC news says DJT is contemplating “secondary sanctions on Russia’s oil & energy sector” in response. Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 30 2025 15:38 utc | 6 “With remarkable transparency, the Pentagon has offered a public accounting of the $66.5 billion in weaponry it has supplied to Ukraine.” But a nytimes investigation published on 30 March reveals that America’s involvement in the war was far deeper than previously understood. “The secret partnership both guided big-picture battle strategy and funneled precise targeting information down to Ukrainian soldiers in the field: before Mr. Trump’s return to power, the United States and Ukraine were joined in an extraordinary partnership of intelligence, strategy, planning and technology whose evolution and inner workings have been known only to a small circle of American and allied officials.” Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 30 2025 15:40 utc | 7 NBC reported something about Trump? Save yourself the energy analyzing it. It’s a lie. Posted by: CullenBaker | Mar 30 2025 15:47 utc | 8 NBC reported something about Trump? Save yourself the energy analyzing it. It’s a lie. Posted by: too scents | Mar 30 2025 15:54 utc | 9 NBC news reports that DJT is “pissed off” @ VVP on account of VVP’s questioning Zelensky’s legitimacy as Ukraine’s president Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 30 2025 16:10 utc | 10 I saw the NBC report too. Between this and his saber-rattling toward Iran, sh|ts gonna hit the fan soon. This man, Trump, is a liar. He ran as a peace through strength president, and he’s set the entire world on fire. Posted by: bored | Mar 30 2025 16:28 utc | 11 A missile strike from the RAF on a temporary deployment area of SBU units and formations of Special Operations Forces (S[O]F) of Ukraine’s Main Intelligence Directorate destroyed up to 170 Ukrainian militants and foreign mercenaries. Posted by: pepe | Mar 30 2025 16:35 utc | 12 Posted by: CullenBaker | Mar 30 2025 15:47 utc | 8 Posted by: pepe | Mar 30 2025 16:36 utc | 13 NBC reported something about Trump? Save yourself the energy analyzing it. It’s a lie. Posted by: They Call Me Mister | Mar 30 2025 16:45 utc | 14 I met some Swedes last night. Totally convinced that Putin was going to attack Sweden if given half a chance. I am fortunate that I meet a lot of different European nationalities. And others like Aussies. I have yet to meet anyone who does not buy into the MSM narrative. But going back to my Swedes, they thought Starmer was a strong leader and admired him for standing up the new “Herr H*lter” (thanks Monty Python)- Putin the Terrible. I am not sure how you fix stupid. But really, in at least a certain age group (ie beyond the age when they might be dodging drones in Donbas), the Europeans have been totally captured by the narrative. It is astonishing really how complete this whole thing is. And the relatively small number of dissenting thinkers will be easy to round up. Posted by: marcjf | Mar 30 2025 16:48 utc | 15 Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 30 2025 16:10 utc | 10 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 30 2025 16:51 utc | 16 NBC news reports that DJT is “pissed off” @ VVP on account of VVP’s questioning Zelensky’s legitimacy as Ukraine’s president. Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 30 2025 16:59 utc | 17 Trump Is Angry… Oops ( Tass 30.03.25 18.30 Uhr ) Posted by: berthold | Mar 30 2025 17:04 utc | 18 DJT is beginning to lament he was never able to finish the war as he promised in 24 hours. Posted by: pepe | Mar 30 2025 17:11 utc | 19 Posted by: marcjf | Mar 30 2025 16:48 utc | 15 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 30 2025 17:13 utc | 20 Everything Trump says and does is a performance. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 30 2025 17:16 utc | 21 Resentment is his worst enemy and it is finally starting to sink in. Posted by: berthold | Mar 30 2025 17:17 utc | 22 Posted by: berthold | Mar 30 2025 17:04 utc | 18 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 30 2025 17:18 utc | 23 Posted by: berthold | Mar 30 2025 17:17 utc | 22 Posted by: pepe | Mar 30 2025 17:27 utc | 24 Posted by: berthold | Mar 30 2025 17:17 utc | 22 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 30 2025 17:36 utc | 25 I am beginning to think that DJT could well be bipolar. Posted by: berthold | Mar 30 2025 17:40 utc | 26 It was an amateuristic comment from Putin about the legitimacy of Zelensky. It doesnt matter if it is true or not, those kind of discussions are for at the negotiation table, not for placing in the media. Some hubris from the Kremlin is being shown here. Posted by: alek_a | Mar 30 2025 17:43 utc | 27 Donald Trump. Not the King of Diplomacy, but rather the King of Duplicity. And may I add he reminds me of Mussolini. Read a great biography of Mussolini. He was on the front page of Time magazine at least once. A man who understood the media because he ran a newspaper for some time. Very much like Trump who is a product of mass media and entertainment. From casinos to Miss Universe to his own television shows, he understands the mechanisms of stirring people up. From Ethiopia to Greenland to the Panama Canal and beyond, there’s not much difference between Mussolini and Trump. The pomposity, abrasivness and the call for the return of past glories is telling. To me, that is. So let’s see what the Fates have prepared for us these next four years. And beyond. Posted by: Jose Garcia | Mar 30 2025 17:48 utc | 28 I am beginning to think that DJT could well be bipolar. Posted by: Newbie | Mar 30 2025 18:08 utc | 29 The jaw-jaw is a tremendous net gain for VVP and Russia, even when it consists of bluster and hard-flung insults, as we might see occur this week from Washington. Excepting Medvedev, who can be spicy, the Russians are quite nonreactive in the face of such behavior. Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 30 2025 18:10 utc | 30 The Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs has posted up a fresh interview with Lavrov, from today March 30. Posted by: too scents | Mar 30 2025 18:28 utc | 31 Posted by: too scents | Mar 30 2025 18:28 utc | 31
Posted by: too scents | Mar 30 2025 18:29 utc | 32 It was an amateuristic comment from Putin about the legitimacy of Zelensky. It doesnt matter if it is true or not, those kind of discussions are for at the negotiation table, not for placing in the media. Posted by: rk | Mar 30 2025 18:30 utc | 33 In response to : ‘I met some Swedes last night…’ – it happened to me also many times with people from different eu regions. The new generation was indoctrinated by the “grandpa stories” how the war ended.. and how brutal and inhumane the Russians are… in fact the all grandpas from different eu regions fought on Nazis/fascist side… so they all omit to say the grandpa was a nazi sympathizer and sacrifice their life for fascists ideas. Sad. Second I tell them … look how many times Russia really invaded Europe??? And how many times actually Europe invaded Russia… all this individuals memorized the fascist grandpa stories instead of studying history.. Posted by: Innuendo | Mar 30 2025 18:31 utc | 34 Wagelaborer the website Posted by: acementhead | Mar 30 2025 18:32 utc | 35 Trump is the classic insomniac. Allergic to Sleep. It’s right in there in his “Art of the Deal” book. The book about how to make millions selling a book about platitudes and incongruity. Posted by: kupkee | Mar 30 2025 18:38 utc | 36 Trump is angry at Putin… Posted by: berthold | Mar 30 2025 18:42 utc | 37 It was an amateuristic comment from Putin about the legitimacy of Zelensky. It doesnt matter if it is true or not, those kind of discussions are for at the negotiation table, not for placing in the media. Posted by: smartfox | Mar 30 2025 18:56 utc | 38 Trump’s genius is to remain somehow sufficiently stable when he isn’t. Posted by: persiflo | Mar 30 2025 19:12 utc | 39 What Putin meant by his proposal for a UN administration of Ukraine Posted by: smartfox | Mar 30 2025 19:23 utc | 40 Posted by: marcjf | Mar 30 2025 16:48 utc | 15 Posted by: Mike R | Mar 30 2025 19:26 utc | 41 No amount of “demagoguery on the part of European leaders” about “distancing themselves” from the Washington will convince Russia that the US is going to fold up its nuclear umbrella over Europe, says veteran Russian military analyst Viktor Litovkin. Posted by: smartfox | Mar 30 2025 19:37 utc | 42 Posted by: marcjf | Mar 30 2025 16:48 utc | 15 Posted by: Helmuth von Moltke | Mar 30 2025 19:44 utc | 43 @pepe | Mar 30 2025 17:27 utc | 24
We need multipolar. Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 30 2025 19:55 utc | 44 RUMOD claims their missile strike destroyed up to 170 AFU troops in Slavyansk. Apparently this force was built gearing up for attack toward Chasov Yar. Posted by: unimperator | Mar 30 2025 20:03 utc | 45 I am beginning to think that DJT could well be bipolar. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 30 2025 20:03 utc | 46 RUMOD has achieved major breakthroughs after offensives west and north of Bogatyr. AFU line on Dnipro-Donbass border may collapse, as Bogatyr defensive anchor agglomeration may soon be cut off. Posted by: unimperator | Mar 30 2025 20:14 utc | 47 “NBC reported something about Trump? Save yourself the energy analyzing it. It’s a lie.” From the petulant bully as reported by Reuters
As I suspect barflies have read elsewhere Trump is also telling Iran if they don’t “negotiate” with him, he will bomb them. Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 30 2025 20:18 utc | 49 From Simplicious
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 30 2025 20:22 utc | 50 Another point I would make at this point is that Trump now owns the Ukraine conflict given his ongoing military support and now non-negotiating tactics like the additional sanctions he is proposing because Russia is not giving in to any of its SMO mandatory outcomes. Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 30 2025 20:23 utc | 51 Trump is angry: Angry Trump (U-Toob) Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 30 2025 20:24 utc | 52 I’m thinking it might be time for a Trump-free day and night at the bar. Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 30 2025 20:27 utc | 53 SHOCKING REvEAL: Confirms Kremlin Insider, Putin’s Body Double Spills All!!!!!!! Posted by: Nothingburgers | Mar 30 2025 20:38 utc | 54 Two Iskandr M missiles took out a hotel/staging area of 170 AFU service members/foreign mercenaries in Sloviansk (west of Chasov Yar.) Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 30 2025 20:42 utc | 55 Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 30 2025 20:18 utc | 49 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 30 2025 20:44 utc | 56 Posted by: Nothingburgers | Mar 30 2025 20:38 utc | 54 Posted by: smartfox | Mar 30 2025 20:45 utc | 57 Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 30 2025 20:27 utc | 53 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 30 2025 20:48 utc | 58 We need lots and lots of Putins. Posted by: Mark2 | Mar 30 2025 20:55 utc | 59 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 30 2025 20:48 utc | 58 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 30 2025 20:57 utc | 60 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 30 2025 20:57 utc | 60 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 30 2025 21:07 utc | 61 Cossak Feint: Posted by: UWDude | Mar 30 2025 21:24 utc | 62 i hope russia makes trump even more angry. does this idiot really think that russia will stop and let their people be killed just because trump will slap secondary sanctions on them? is he really this tone deaf? what a fucking clown, he fits right in with zelenskijyiviijy and starmer. a bunch of nazi clowns. Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 30 2025 21:26 utc | 63 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 30 2025 20:48 utc | 58 Posted by: UWDude | Mar 30 2025 21:26 utc | 64 https://archive.ph/Zjqxa#selection-4991.0-4991.61 Posted by: JamesBond | Mar 30 2025 21:29 utc | 65 psychohistorian | Mar 30 2025 20:18 utc | 49&51– Might-Makes-Right barbarism along with patriarchy and monotheism [male, of course]. Posted by: UWDude | Mar 30 2025 21:34 utc | 67 The chuckle brothers are at it again. Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Mar 30 2025 21:35 utc | 68 Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 30 2025 21:26 utc | 63 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 30 2025 21:39 utc | 70 Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 30 2025 20:24 utc | 52 Posted by: UWDude | Mar 30 2025 21:46 utc | 71 ▪️An “urgent meeting in a narrow circle” will be held in Kiev within a week Posted by: Jo | Mar 30 2025 21:50 utc | 72 Posted by: Nothingburgers | Mar 30 2025 20:38 utc | 54 Posted by: UWDude | Mar 30 2025 21:55 utc | 73 Can somebody email the chuckle brothers and explain to them these very simple facts about modern money and the UK’s ability to fund itself. Fund Ukraine. Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Mar 30 2025 21:55 utc | 74 ***The only remaining “strength” the Collective West has is the sowing of chaos–and that includes the Zionists. That’s the grand reality the West is currently going through denial over, and it’s a reality it cannot change, which is even more frustrating for its principal actors. Posted by: frithguild | Mar 30 2025 21:55 utc | 75 DS map update recently dropped: Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 30 2025 21:56 utc | 76 @53-Don Firineach Posted by: kpax | Mar 30 2025 22:01 utc | 77
The website https://dnyuz.com/ somehow gets away with reposting the New York Times. Posted by: Cheney | Mar 30 2025 22:24 utc | 78 “Muh stalemate”. Posted by: UWDude | Mar 30 2025 22:25 utc | 79 Why is Trump upset with Putin because he said Zelensky is the illegitimate head of Ukraine? Posted by: Jerr | Mar 30 2025 22:30 utc | 80 A *ceasefire* imposed upon belligerents, including imposed by a shadow-belligerent, who must not be named, have an uncanny way of breaking down. Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 30 2025 22:31 utc | 81 95% of people who drink at this bar know the US treasuries scam. Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Mar 30 2025 22:34 utc | 82 Overall: Another bad day for the RFA. Only 4.2 kmsq taken. That kind of pace equates to decades to achieve war aims. Posted by: HERMIUS | Mar 30 2025 22:38 utc | 83 https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-angry-putin-zelenskyy-iran-sanctions-rcna198729 Posted by: smartfox | Mar 30 2025 22:41 utc | 84 A *ceasefire* in this conflict was always problematic, not only because Russia was winning on the battlefield against a media backdrop which insisted that *Ukraine* was winning, but because the paymaster/hegemon/shadow belligerent could not really come out from behind its fig-leaf role and actually proclaim, announcing loud & proud, that it was at war w/ Russia. Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 30 2025 22:45 utc | 85 A *ceasefire* in this conflict was always problematic, not only because Russia was winning on the battlefield against a media backdrop which insisted that *Ukraine* was winning, but because the paymaster/hegemon/shadow belligerent could not really come out from behind its fig-leaf role and actually proclaim, announcing loud & proud, that it was at war w/ Russia. Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 30 2025 22:46 utc | 86 A new nine-page document outlines priorities for senior Pentagon officials and a vision for achieving them, according to The Washington Post. The Interim National Defense Strategic Guidance reportedly closely mirrors the Trump administration’s conservative “Project 2025” from the Heritage Foundation. Posted by: smartfox | Mar 30 2025 23:01 utc | 87 UWDude @71: Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 30 2025 23:08 utc | 88 It is not possible for a co-belligerent of the war in Ukraine to negotiate a ceasefire until it, the belligerent in question, lays down arms. Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 30 2025 23:11 utc | 89 Re: all things Trump… Posted by: comrade simba | Mar 30 2025 23:26 utc | 90 super deadly novel virus prep? Posted by: UWDude | Mar 30 2025 23:30 utc | 91 Both of Trump’s initiatives are not working as expected: the ceasefire on energy is only being held unilaterally, so it is to be expected that Putin will not extend it. The Wheat and Black Sea Agreement cannot be implemented because the Europeans are blocking it. Posted by: smartfox | Mar 30 2025 23:34 utc | 92
You say that it is both a stalemate and that it will take a long time for Russia to take the whole country. Can’t be both as in a stalemate Russia would never take any more territory on balance. So you need to pick which one you are going with in order to have a consistent position. But maybe that isn’t a concern. Posted by: Cheney | Mar 30 2025 23:35 utc | 93 Overall: Another bad day for the RFA. Only 4.2 kmsq taken. That kind of pace equates to decades to achieve war aims. Posted by: Ted from Liverpool | Mar 30 2025 23:39 utc | 94 responding to Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 30 2025 21:30 utc | 66 Posted by: snake | Mar 30 2025 23:46 utc | 95 Russian soldier explains quite a bit in Dimitri Simes jr / NewRulesGeopolitics dubbed interview on twitter. Including why their advance is slow. Advances are restricted to small drone teams moving stealthily. Because of the ISR, drones, and the open fields this is the only way. First war in history like this. Posted by: JustSomeOldGuy | Mar 30 2025 23:48 utc | 96
No, he wants YOU to believe it. There is a difference. Posted by: Rutte | Mar 30 2025 23:51 utc | 97 Trump, as he wants to be able to present something at Easter. Posted by: UWDude | Mar 30 2025 23:52 utc | 98 Been offline most of this weekend. Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 31 2025 0:14 utc | 99 Recently in Gulyolva, AFU casualties were FOUR TIMES that of Russia’s. This is not an anomaly. Posted by: Newbie | Mar 31 2025 0:17 utc | 100 |
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