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March 16, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-054
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Work from fundamental realities and leave off the bulljive. Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 16 2025 22:24 utc | 101 The Black Sea coast, including Odessa, is an open flank for Russia in the event of a ceasefire. This should be clear, so no agreement can be reached without this safeguard. Posted by: smartfox | Mar 16 2025 22:30 utc | 102 “Look at Bakhmut, Avdiivka, Vuhledar, etc. It’s not like they had some rapid scatterbrained retreat after any of those losses. But the crazy rush out of Malaya Locknia was something else. Heck, even AFTER the fall of Sudzha, we now are back to the very measured rate of advance towards the border. A week later and still haven’t gotten there.” Posted by: antcafe | Mar 16 2025 22:34 utc | 103 Russia can claim its Victor’s Peace (dictating terms.) Posted by: smartfox | Mar 16 2025 22:34 utc | 104 Alexander Mercouris’ discussion this evening makes it clear that the Starmer-Marcon axis and some hangers on are pushing themselves – uninvited – into Ukraine not as peacekeepers, but as war-keepers. Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Mar 16 2025 22:39 utc | 105 Link to Alexander Mercouris: Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Mar 16 2025 22:41 utc | 106 Link to Alexander Mercouris: Posted by: smartfox | Mar 16 2025 22:52 utc | 107 The two highest external debts to GDP are UK and France. The lowest is Netherlands followed closely by Russia. Wouldnt warring with Netherlands be easier? I heard they kick dogs. Posted by: antcafe | Mar 16 2025 22:55 utc | 108 I ask myself, what Ukraine can do with 50 rockets? Posted by: PalmaSailor | Mar 16 2025 23:16 utc | 109 “In vain you spread your net Posted by: Oldhand | Mar 16 2025 23:21 utc | 110 The 3rd battle for Lymon is getting ready to begin in the Kharvov region. Russian Forces have positioned themselves to retake territory from late summer of 2022, driving gains more deeply toward the Oskul River. Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 16 2025 23:41 utc | 111 @105 Posted by: paddy | Mar 16 2025 23:57 utc | 112 Super stupid bought a five cent bag Posted by: MiGao | Mar 17 2025 0:14 utc | 113 Oops | Mar 16 2025 15:49 utc | 14 Posted by: Cynic | Mar 17 2025 0:24 utc | 114 Shouldn’t what remains of the Kiev-governed Ukrainians be pointing their weapons Westwards instead of East? Posted by: TJandTheBear | Mar 17 2025 0:26 utc | 115 Eighthman | Mar 16 2025 15:58 utc | 16 Posted by: Cynic | Mar 17 2025 0:30 utc | 116 Mario | Mar 16 2025 17:03 utc | 44 Posted by: Cynic | Mar 17 2025 0:42 utc | 117 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 16 2025 22:21 utc | 100 Posted by: snake | Mar 17 2025 1:55 utc | 118 Posted by: smartfox | Mar 16 2025 22:30 utc | 102 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Mar 17 2025 2:05 utc | 119 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 16 2025 23:41 utc | 111 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Mar 17 2025 2:14 utc | 120 Hmmmmmm. Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 17 2025 3:03 utc | 121 Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 17 2025 3:03 utc | 121 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 17 2025 3:17 utc | 122 from the Carrots & Sticks Department: When asked whether DJT was prepared to “punish” VVP with more sanctions if he rejected a ceasefire, Mike Waltz replied to the host of the Sunday morning show that “all options are on the table.” Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 17 2025 3:24 utc | 123 It’s hilarious that the jewed-up Eurotrash have forgotten that when US-ZATO attacked Iraq, Libya and Syria those countries had adopted a partial disarmament policy as a demonstration of good faith – making them soft targets. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 17 2025 4:08 utc | 124 “The way to prevent the Ukraine war from being understood is to suppress its history,” so states Joe Lauria, writing for Consortium News. “A cartoon version has the conflict beginning on Feb. 24, 2022 when Vladimir Putin woke up that morning and decided to invade Ukraine.” Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 17 2025 4:31 utc | 125 Uncommon knowledge that — even attrited — the AFU could turn around and conquer all of Europe in short order. Posted by: Mario | Mar 17 2025 7:06 utc | 127 Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 17 2025 3:03 utc | 121 Posted by: Mario | Mar 17 2025 7:11 utc | 128 @Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 17 2025 3:17 utc | 122 Posted by: rk | Mar 17 2025 7:29 utc | 129 ‘Putinversteher’
Der Spiegel as a rag competing with Murdoch’s fake news empire. Obfuscation the war crimes born in the White House for decades and continuing in every administration.
Filling in the gaps, came across some tidbits … I foresee a Hundred Years’ War Europe v Russia. The Februari 2014 coup d’état destroyed any chance of “democracy” of some sorts in Ukraine. The provoked proxy war caused hostilities on a frontier that can never be protected on either side. A ceasefire is a “mission impossible”. Securing the Black Sea and is ports will be crucial for Putin. Perhaps the USA can consider to become the 51st Oblast of the former USSR .. Alaska should be an easy quest.
American traitor going beyond his Commander-in-Chief faced no consequences … got covert support from Brennan, Biden and State Nuland.
Ukraine: EU Ashton Who Then Called For “Dialog”, Now Calls For “Authority of the State” | MofA – 13 April 2014 |
Posted by: rk | Mar 17 2025 7:29 utc | 129 Posted by: Jan Sobieski | Mar 17 2025 9:00 utc | 133
Brennan and Clapper Should Not Escape Prosecution | Nov. 2018 | By John Kiriakou |
No need for false flags, Russia already stated they will bury Nato troops in Ukraine. Posted by: unimperator | Mar 17 2025 9:08 utc | 135 TV Germany report Posted by: berthold | Mar 17 2025 9:13 utc | 136 Two snippets from Simplicius newsletter i think are worth sharing: Posted by: El.Lissitzky | Mar 17 2025 9:14 utc | 137 Turns out EU is having ‘technical issues’ with the €40 billion aid package to Ukraine. Kaja Kallas is disappointed. Posted by: unimperator | Mar 17 2025 9:17 utc | 138 The German auto industry is going on the offensive. Posted by: Ost Rentner | Mar 17 2025 9:36 utc | 139 Trump says he is going to talk about Putin with ‘dividing territories and power plants’. Sounds like Nato wants the Zaporozhye power plant. To be honest, that is completely delusional, considering RUAF is now moving toward Zaporozhye, passing by Kamyanske on the Dniepr shore. Posted by: unimperator | Mar 17 2025 9:40 utc | 140
That morning, Putin got up and looked out of the window. The weather was gray and gloomy. The day was going to be particularly tedious: inaugurating the collective restaurant of a tractor factory, patting the heads of babies in arms, repeating banalities about the greatness of Russia and its length and its breadth. “How boring to be a dictator,” he thought, “nothing ever happens to you”. He came to dream of relieving his boredom with a pretty blonde, which by association made him think of the Ukraine. Then a monstrous idea crossed his mind!!! Posted by: Leuk | Mar 17 2025 9:43 utc | 141 Trump says he is going to talk about Putin with ‘dividing territories and power plants’. Sounds like Nato wants the Zaporozhye power plant. To be honest, that is completely delusional, considering RUAF is now moving toward Zaporozhye, passing by Kamyanske on the Dniepr shore. Posted by: Ost Rentner | Mar 17 2025 9:53 utc | 142 Posted by: Leuk | Mar 17 2025 9:43 utc | 141 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 17 2025 10:05 utc | 143 https://t.me/bayraktar1070/3665
Posted by: 5thcolumn | Mar 17 2025 10:16 utc | 144 Breaking. Posted by: unimperator | Mar 17 2025 10:38 utc | 145 Russia can show the Kursk Ukrainians the same mercy the US showed Iraqis when they were retreating from Kuwait in 1991. Posted by: Fred777 | Mar 17 2025 10:39 utc | 146 It seems Putin I criticized so much did the right thing this time. Posted by: vargas | Mar 17 2025 10:41 utc | 147 looks like the us has notified the eu that it is leaving that group that investigates “russian war crimes”. eu wont be happy. Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 17 2025 10:46 utc | 148 No need for false flags, Russia already stated they will bury Nato troops in Ukraine. Posted by: Newbie | Mar 17 2025 10:57 utc | 149 Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 17 2025 4:08 utc | 124 Posted by: Cynic | Mar 17 2025 11:00 utc | 150 TV Germany report Posted by: arthur brogard | Mar 17 2025 11:03 utc | 151 Posted by: Cynic | Mar 17 2025 11:00 utc | 150 Posted by: Night Tripper | Mar 17 2025 11:05 utc | 152 It is said there are nato guys hiding in there. quite possible. well they gotta go bush to get out. They are IN ‘enemy’ (russian) held territory. That’s surrounded. Posted by: Newbie | Mar 17 2025 11:12 utc | 153 More debunked British media BS, this time another variation of ‘Russia’s economy about to collapse’…
Posted by: unimperator | Mar 17 2025 11:12 utc | 154 i have seen three comments alleging the many preemptive pardons signed by Biden are to be challenged as signed by a non conscious men.. very interesting.. the outcome of this .. could change a lot of things.. including the legality of contracts.. with private contractors..and presidential orders etc.. WOW! Posted by: snake | Mar 17 2025 11:22 utc | 155 rk | Mar 17 2025 7:29 utc | 129 Posted by: Cynic | Mar 17 2025 11:34 utc | 156 Posted by: unimperator | Mar 17 2025 11:12 utc | 154 Posted by: watcher | Mar 17 2025 11:38 utc | 157 unimperator | Mar 17 2025 11:12 utc | 154 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 17 2025 11:40 utc | 158 watcher | Mar 17 2025 11:38 utc | 157 Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 17 2025 11:46 utc | 159 Glen Diesen interviews Col Jacques Bord on his substack…particularly exposes the weaknesses in EU scenarios re Ukraine.Actually can been moving by its behaviours to initiate the old USSR where as Russia has adapted to a position that EU cannot even consider unless radical changes occur…which are all far too slow and disjointed and unrealistic and kinda stupid too stuck in what idelogies and complete lack of coherent policies they have….except a manipulating unifying russophobia they are stuck with? Posted by: Jo | Mar 17 2025 11:53 utc | 160 Night Tripper | Mar 17 2025 11:05 utc | 152 Posted by: Cynic | Mar 17 2025 11:58 utc | 161 The limited return of the trolls – having disappeared with the cuts to US funding, through USAID and NED – likely reflects new funding from the EU. Posted by: Richard Head | Mar 17 2025 12:02 utc | 162 “disappeared with the cuts to US funding” Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 17 2025 12:05 utc | 163 Not to mention his chorus of “he has a point you know” acolytes. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 17 2025 12:06 utc | 164 Zelensky dismissed the head of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Anatoly Bargilevich. Posted by: YetAnotherAnon | Mar 17 2025 12:09 utc | 165 Posted by: Fred777 | Mar 17 2025 10:39 utc | 146 Posted by: Barrel Brown | Mar 17 2025 12:21 utc | 166 Posted by: Richard Head | Mar 17 2025 12:02 utc | 162 Posted by: unimperator | Mar 17 2025 12:23 utc | 167 Zelensky dismissed the head of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine Anatoly Bargilevich.
Posted by: 5thcolumn | Mar 17 2025 12:24 utc | 168 I see Karlof1 has a new substack with the “Spengler “article on rt contained…Simplicmus has his new substack too. Posted by: Jo | Mar 17 2025 12:35 utc | 169 I am from Spain. I support Russia. Posted by: Emi | Mar 17 2025 13:17 utc | 170 Posted by: Emi | Mar 17 2025 13:17 utc | 170 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 17 2025 13:25 utc | 171 Russians in desperate straits (cont’d).
Posted by: Leuk | Mar 17 2025 13:35 utc | 172 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 17 2025 13:25 utc | 171 Posted by: Savonarole | Mar 17 2025 13:47 utc | 173 Reuter said Trump will speak to VV Putin. Posted by: paddy | Mar 17 2025 14:01 utc | 174 The Council of the European Union (CEU) has approved the payment of €3.5 billion to Ukraine under a macro financial assistance program, according to a statement. Posted by: pepe | Mar 17 2025 14:02 utc | 175 Posted by: Savonarole | Mar 17 2025 13:47 utc | 173 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 17 2025 14:09 utc | 176 The US-UK deliberately bombed civilian targets and infrastructure in Yemen. Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Mar 17 2025 14:11 utc | 177 So it is now “our” policy to target civilians, Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 17 2025 14:25 utc | 178 So the weastern alliance is looking for more money to throw after bad money, like looking down tbe back of the sette, (cutting welfare) Posted by: Mark2 | Mar 17 2025 14:41 utc | 179 Mainland Europe needs to do a ‘Trump’ Posted by: Mark2 | Mar 17 2025 14:59 utc | 180 Posted by: Cynic | Mar 17 2025 11:34 utc | 156
see cynics post –> Mar 17 2025 0:42 utc | 117 —> shows clearly HIS “… ‘intellect’ problem…” Posted by: ghiwen | Mar 17 2025 15:18 utc | 181
keep in mind that they dont care about the money, as in their mind, once they have “decolonized” russia, then that money will be recuperated via the russian resources.
they already do. the nato flag/emblem is noting more but a swastika, just folded a little bit. and the nato headquarters, viewed from above, looks like 2x the ss doppel siegrune. Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 17 2025 15:18 utc | 182 ghiwen | Mar 17 2025 15:18 utc | 18 Posted by: Cynic | Mar 17 2025 15:31 utc | 183 Conflict of intersts ! Posted by: Mark2 | Mar 17 2025 16:21 utc | 184 Briefly about Sudzha: Posted by: MiniMO | Mar 17 2025 16:28 utc | 185 “Well, seems like Macron just called Putin’s bluff. He wants to send French troops in Ukraine, whether Russia agrees or not. Posted by: g wiltek | Mar 17 2025 16:42 utc | 186 Apparently there’s quite few foreign mercenaries aka Nato troops in Kursk – and that’s the reason Nato leaders are panicking, that Putin will slay them all – Putin gave a deadline of 8am this morning, to all foreign troops in Kursk, to exit or be defeated – however Kiev, Zelensky and no doubt Brussels – want the troops to remain in Kursk – to give them a bargaining chip – if discussion occur. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 17 2025 16:57 utc | 187 Once again, it seems I’m about to be proven right in the most infuriatingly predictable way possible—not that I take any pleasure in watching history repeat itself like a badly scripted sequel. Posted by: Dlugaj July | Mar 17 2025 16:59 utc | 188 For whatever reason, the narrative-gatekeepers in the West have decided to give up on pretending that the Kursk offensive was anything but a failure: Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Mar 17 2025 17:02 utc | 189 The German government really are vile bunch of shits – Merz has already welcomed the war criminal Netanyahu with open arms – now his aiders and abettors in genocide, are trying to portray the Neo-Nazi’s of Ukraine – in a acceptable light. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 17 2025 17:03 utc | 190 I heard on the radio today – a bloke talking to a BBC radio presenter – the discussion surrounded the (ZNPP) – and both the (presenter and caller – the establishment talking to itself) agreed that the (ZNPP) should be returned to the Ukrainian authorities after the conflict abates – the (ZNPP) is currently controlled by Russian forces – and the Neo-Nazi’s have tried to blow it up on several occasions, the (ZNPP) is the largest nuclear power station in Europe – and if the Neo-Nazi’s succeed in rupturing it, and the prevailing winds are blowing towards Europe – there could be an ecological disaster. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 17 2025 17:10 utc | 191 I wouldn’t put anything past the German government – they’re in bed with the Zionist and the Neo-Nazi’s in Ukraine – so this is likely to be true. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 17 2025 17:18 utc | 192
as the saying goes: “once a nazi, always a nazi!” Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 17 2025 17:26 utc | 193
Who are those “us” you keep bleating about? Yourself and your lice? Posted by: Rutte | Mar 17 2025 17:30 utc | 194 No they could not, they have not enough manpower to do so exactly as RF has not enough manpower to conquer all Europe, contrary to the propaganda in EU. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Mar 17 2025 17:38 utc | 195 Posted by: Dlugaj July | Mar 17 2025 16:59 utc | 188 Posted by: scc | Mar 17 2025 17:41 utc | 196 Posted by: TJandTheBear | Mar 17 2025 17:38 utc | 195 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 17 2025 17:43 utc | 197 What Trumpy is going for now is Yemen then Iran, later China, a direct attack on the Brics club of losers. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Mar 17 2025 17:43 utc | 198 @ Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 17 2025 17:26 utc | 193 Posted by: DunGroanin | Mar 17 2025 17:46 utc | 199 Posted by: g wiltek | Mar 17 2025 16:42 utc | 186 Posted by: Savonarole | Mar 17 2025 17:51 utc | 200 |
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