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March 16, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-054
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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Kyev Post Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 16 2025 15:03 utc | 1 Mr. Marco Antonio Rubio (MAR) was added to the list of US citizens under individual sanctions, including a ban on entry to Russia, in May 2022. Posted by: pepe | Mar 16 2025 15:13 utc | 2 If this is in any way likely to result in a ceasefire I assume Putin has caved in on all his demands because I can’t see how Trump can agree to any of them without the Ukros consent as it would be out of line with what they did agree to otherwise Posted by: Night Tripper | Mar 16 2025 15:17 utc | 3 Well, seems like Macron just called Putin’s bluff. He wants to send French troops in Ukraine, whether Russia agrees or not. Posted by: Micron | Mar 16 2025 15:21 utc | 4 Posted by: Night Tripper | Mar 16 2025 15:17 utc | 3 Posted by: Milites | Mar 16 2025 15:28 utc | 5 Posted by: Milites | Mar 16 2025 15:28 utc | Posted by: Night Tripper | Mar 16 2025 15:32 utc | 7
Sorry, pal, if you think this bridge is yours – you have been duped. Small wonder, seeing how dumb you are. Posted by: Rutte | Mar 16 2025 15:34 utc | 8 Posted by: Micron | Mar 16 2025 15:21 utc | 4 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 16 2025 15:35 utc | 9 At one point, the deaths of the sons of the French aristocracy was a scandal back home. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 16 2025 15:40 utc | 10 Ukraine Weekly Update, 14th March 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-c59 Posted by: The Busker | Mar 16 2025 15:42 utc | 11 Kursk now completely Cleared out. Posted by: Night Tripper | Mar 16 2025 15:44 utc | 12 Corporates Call for 8 Million Migrants to Replace Dead Ukrainians Posted by: Oops | Mar 16 2025 15:49 utc | 14 Any news about this French Arabel missile downing a Russian jet? Posted by: magicmirror | Mar 16 2025 15:51 utc | 15 reply to 14 Posted by: Eighthman | Mar 16 2025 15:58 utc | 16 Z will never agree to the “nuances” required for a cease fire. What a farce. Its like a chess game where the guy down a rook three pawns and a knight asks for a draw. Posted by: antcafe | Mar 16 2025 16:01 utc | 17 The joke would be on them. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 16 2025 16:02 utc | 18 Posted by: magicmirror | Mar 16 2025 15:51 utc | 15 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 16 2025 16:03 utc | 19 Don Bacon @1503 March 16 Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 16 2025 16:04 utc | 20 Reply to #16 Posted by: Loyal | Mar 16 2025 16:06 utc | 21 Slow Eastern Europeans, being bled dry, futures exterminated, so Western Europe and the USA can strip their countries of Resources. Posted by: kupkee | Mar 16 2025 16:08 utc | 22 RE: “And after that, they need to import Pakistanis, Africans and 3rd world men to fill up their country. Wow, just wow….” Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 16 2025 16:10 utc | 23 pepe@1513 March 16 Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 16 2025 16:10 utc | 24 Micronutz@1521 March 16 Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 16 2025 16:13 utc | 25 Looks like Lithuania just passed a law to legalise military recruiters abduct people in the street and send them off to the army barracks. Complete with celebration and military fanfare. Plus some 200 Ukrainian “totally voluntary enlistment” commissars when to Lithuania to then train the locals and pass on their valuable newly acquired experience. Are they getting ready for the next front to open ? Posted by: SittingOnTheFence | Mar 16 2025 16:13 utc | 26 @4 Posted by: paddy | Mar 16 2025 16:16 utc | 27 Latest report from underground in Ukraine is 26 NATO officers were caught in cauldrons in Kursk region. Perhaps that is why Trump is begging to release those in encirclement? Posted by: unimperator | Mar 16 2025 16:19 utc | 28 Oopseydaisy@1549 March 16 Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 16 2025 16:26 utc | 29 @kupkee | Mar 16 2025 16:08 utc | 22 Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 16 2025 16:30 utc | 30 Antcafe@1601 March 16 Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 16 2025 16:32 utc | 31 How mobilization in Ukraine looks like right now, from the perspective of TCC officers. Gun in the face. Posted by: unimperator | Mar 16 2025 16:36 utc | 32 Well, seems like Macron just called Putin’s bluff. He wants to send French troops in Ukraine, whether Russia agrees or not. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 16 2025 16:39 utc | 33 Posted by: SittingOnTheFence | Mar 16 2025 16:13 utc | 26 Posted by: Urban Fox | Mar 16 2025 16:39 utc | 34 unimperator@1619 March 16 Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 16 2025 16:41 utc | 35 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 16 2025 16:02 utc | 18 Posted by: Mario | Mar 16 2025 16:41 utc | 36 The ship has hit the iceberg and is taking on water, so why not re-arrange the deckchairs again?
https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/ukraine/1742140259-zelenskiy-priznachiv-novogo-nachalnika-genshtabu-zsu (via translation add-on.) Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 16 2025 16:41 utc | 37 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 16 2025 16:41 utc | 37 Posted by: unimperator | Mar 16 2025 16:50 utc | 38 Why do people lie about ceasefires so much? Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Mar 16 2025 16:50 utc | 39 Was this supposed to happen?
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 16 2025 16:51 utc | 40
So the current situation in Kursk had nothing to do with the months of attrition or the gas pipe operation? Instead it was all down to the British voluntarily directing the Ukrainian military to withdraw to support Trump’s ceasefire proposal?
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/16/world/europe/kursk-russia-ukraine.html Posted by: FakeBelieve | Mar 16 2025 16:51 utc | 41
Posted by: FakeBelieve | Mar 16 2025 16:51 utc | 41 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 16 2025 16:58 utc | 42 So the current situation in Kursk had nothing to do with the months of attrition or the gas pipe operation? Instead it was all down to the British voluntarily directing the Ukrainian military to withdraw Posted by: Night Tripper | Mar 16 2025 16:59 utc | 43 Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 16 2025 16:51 utc | 40 Posted by: Mario | Mar 16 2025 17:03 utc | 44 According to the Sunday Times, the PM won the backing of ‘considerably more’ than the three countries that initially offered to supply boots on the ground. Posted by: Jo | Mar 16 2025 17:06 utc | 45 @4 micron Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Mar 16 2025 17:36 utc | 46 “Ukraine has received the first tranche of 2.5 billion Canadian dollars from Ottawa under the G7’s Extraordinary Revenue Acceleration (ERA) initiative, the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry announced on March 13…” Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 16 2025 17:56 utc | 47 Excellent article recapping Crimea’s experiences since its 1991 referendum, and that wasn’t the only referendum carried out in the collapsing USSR. Excellent historical background that refutes Turkish BS about many things, particularly Crimea, not all of which was Erdogan’s doing. According to the UN Charter, Crimea should never have returned to being administered by Kiev after the series of 1991 votes. IMO, this article belongs in barflies’s archives for future reference. John Gilberts | Mar 16 2025 17:56 utc | 47– I only see 35mil for energy where’s article citing 2.5bil? Posted by: drinky crow | Mar 16 2025 18:10 utc | 50 Posted by: Night Tripper | Mar 16 2025 15:32 utc | 7 Posted by: Milites | Mar 16 2025 18:12 utc | 51 Marco Rubio stated on CBS Sunday Morning agitprop show that “can’t talk until ceasefire”. Ceasefire seems US’ immutable entry to negotiations. Posted by: paddy | Mar 16 2025 18:15 utc | 52 Corrected url #47: Carney: ‘Canada is Ukraine’s Steadfast Ally’ Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 16 2025 18:17 utc | 53 Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 16 2025 17:56 utc | 48 Posted by: Paco | Mar 16 2025 18:20 utc | 54 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 16 2025 16:39 utc | 33 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Mar 16 2025 18:20 utc | 55 Militarism has been bad for the US of A, leading to protracted wars that bring no greater security, but the depletion of American society’s well-being, the capture of its politics by arms lobbies and the erosion of its democracy. Posted by: pepe | Mar 16 2025 18:23 utc | 56 Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 16 2025 18:01 utc | 49 Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Mar 16 2025 18:24 utc | 57 Paco | Mar 16 2025 18:20 utc | 54– Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 16 2025 18:31 utc | 58 Posted by: Paco | Mar 16 2025 18:35 utc | 59 Posted by karlof1/ March 16 2025 18:01 utc 49 Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 16 2025 18:39 utc | 60 Maybe this is why – Trump is thinking about, or has moved tens-of-thousands of troops to Hungary. He could be thinking – of flooding close to the frontline in hostilities in Ukraine with troops – to quickly create a kind of DMZ/buffer zone, if some sort of ceasefire terms are agreed. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 16 2025 18:49 utc | 61 @49 Posted by: Angeko | Mar 16 2025 18:50 utc | 62 I expect any European expeditionary force to get bloodied quick. Russia likes the US better than Europe. Posted by: Urban Fox | Mar 16 2025 18:54 utc | 63 There won’t be any “Operation Piss-in-the-Wind” launched by the Eurocucks, under any pretext. Posted by: malenkov | Mar 16 2025 19:12 utc | 64 “Russia has given all Ukrainian forces still inside the Kursk region until 08:00am on Monday to surrender” Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 16 2025 19:18 utc | 65 Micron @ 4
Medvedev is fun but his game is by now trite, Zakharova is always succinct and curt, Lavrov can be long winded by never flowery. Your use of strained, ill-suited adjectives reveals you as a $7.25/hr troll.
Some people here were, some weren’t, it a discussion forum not a litany, so, why are you trying to tar it??? Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 16 2025 19:19 utc | 66 Two things immediately spring to mind – is Telegram now compromised via backdoors – and will Telegram now cut down on its coverage on Israeli and Ukrainian atrocities. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 16 2025 19:21 utc | 67 Ukraines denial of the situation in Kursk means as far as Kiev is concerned this is just another day in the meat grinder. The troops sent to kursk were sacrificial in the first place to try and get control of the Kursk nuclear plant. The west must have known that as the Kursk operation was planned almost exclusively by them. Ukraine should have withdrew those troops as soon as it was clear they would not make it to the nuclear plant.Some of the AFU troops have fled to more defensible positions but I dont predict any prolonged AFU presence in Kursk. The ones trapped will surrender or die. Another day another cauldron reaching conclusion as far as Kiev is concerned. Kursk will not be a topic in the MSM in two weeks. Posted by: antcafe | Mar 16 2025 19:22 utc | 68 ZH has a Pepe Escobar posting up with the title Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 16 2025 19:24 utc | 69 🇺🇸🇪🇺🇷🇺🇺🇦 Russia claims to have 30 NATO officers in encirclement! Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 16 2025 19:26 utc | 70 Weeb Union reporting that the Ukrainians are having to redirect some of their elite units to the Sumy region, due to the high losses taken during the final defeat of the Kursk salient. At the same time, the Russians took very few losses and can continue on toward Sumy. Posted by: Roger Boyd | Mar 16 2025 19:41 utc | 71 As billions in aid given to the Ukrainian big wigs – of which much has disappeared – top of the range sports cars with Ukrainian plates have been seen in Monaco – and you can take a guided tour of Zelensky’s great big mansion in Florida. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 16 2025 19:44 utc | 72 Please, let’s stop using the term “ceasefire deal”. There was no “deal” –i.e., an agreement between the relevant parties (Russia and Zelensky). There was a “proposal” from the Ukrainian side (under US pressure) for a temporary cease fire. It took an unusual number of days for that proposal to be formally offered to Russia. President Putin responded with a counter proposal, as is typical in any negotiation. The ball is now back in Zelensky’s court. Posted by: Gavin Longmuir | Mar 16 2025 19:56 utc | 73 I can’t disagree with this. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 16 2025 20:01 utc | 74 Republicofscotland @ 67
Out in the physical world which I sometimes step into TG is trivial, almost a non-entity, I don’t know anyone that uses TG for info, or even knows it serves as a primary, timely news source, or knows that it has an excellent built in translator. Among USA friends young or old it’s existent. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 16 2025 20:11 utc | 75 ^^^ * “Among USA friends young or old it’s non-existent.” Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 16 2025 20:12 utc | 76 Posted by: Micron | Mar 16 2025 15:21 utc | 4👈 Posted by: HERMIUS | Mar 16 2025 20:36 utc | 77 – Alastair Crooke (in an interview with Larry Johnson): Posted by: WMG | Mar 16 2025 20:42 utc | 78 really interesting article on rt world news…I read it through the app Posted by: Jo | Mar 16 2025 20:49 utc | 79 @ WMG | Mar 16 2025 20:42 utc | 78 Posted by: Jax | Mar 16 2025 20:52 utc | 80 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 16 2025 16:02 utc Posted by: andy | Mar 16 2025 20:57 utc | 81 Posted by: Jax | Mar 16 2025 20:52 utc | 80 Posted by: watcher | Mar 16 2025 21:00 utc | 82 extract from article I posted about Posted by: Jo | Mar 16 2025 21:01 utc | 83 @ karlof1 | Mar 16 2025 17:56 utc | 48 / Paco | Mar 16 2025 18:20 utc | 54 Posted by: waynorinorway | Mar 16 2025 21:02 utc | 84 Posted by: antcafe | Mar 16 2025 19:22 utc | 68 Posted by: Milites | Mar 16 2025 21:02 utc | 85
— Dmitry Medvedev Posted by: ostrr | Mar 16 2025 21:03 utc | 86 There is absolutely NO WAY Starmer and Macron will send troops to Ukraine. It’s all bluff, designed to keep Ukrainian troop morale up for just a few more weeks (or until they find another narrative). Posted by: HERMIUS | Mar 16 2025 21:26 utc | 87 Daily DS map update: Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 16 2025 21:28 utc | 88 Macron allies liken him to Churchill for plan to send troops to Ukraine Posted by: TJandTheBear | Mar 16 2025 21:34 utc | 89 Strange, I was told in Israel that in ‘73… Posted by: TJandTheBear | Mar 16 2025 21:44 utc | 90 Posted by karlof1/ March 16 2025 18:01 utc 49 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 16 2025 21:49 utc | 91 Posted by: Jo | Mar 16 2025 21:01 utc | 83 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 16 2025 21:52 utc | 92 Trump specifically requesting the ‘safety’ of the Kursk terrorists supports the view that the US was actively involved in the Kursk withdrawal that forms part of the ceasefire deal Posted by: Night Tripper | Mar 16 2025 21:55 utc | 93 Posted by: WMG | Mar 16 2025 20:42 utc | 78 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 16 2025 21:58 utc | 94 I’m coming more and more to the opinion that the pipeline operation was much MORE significant than the Ukrops (or even many pro RFA!) want to give it credit for. Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 16 2025 22:00 utc | 95 An interesting news snippet from MSN — which reliably reports only what the Far Left wants the US public to know: Posted by: Gavin Longmuir | Mar 16 2025 22:05 utc | 96 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 16 2025 20:11 utc | 75 Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 16 2025 22:08 utc | 97 Jams O’Donnell | Mar 16 2025 18:24 utc | 57– You’re being played like a fiddle, folks. If you think the collective West is going to simply drop the ball and let 25 years of investment and hundreds of billions go to waste, I’ve got a bridge to sell you. Posted by: antcafe | Mar 16 2025 22:09 utc | 99 From TASS: Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 16 2025 22:21 utc | 100 |
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