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March 9, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-048
News & views related to the war in Ukraine …
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@97 naive Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Mar 9 2025 23:29 utc | 101 How many missile subs does Paki have? How many ICBMs capable of hitting you know who do they have? How many will they have ever? Not a player. Posted by: Npin | Mar 9 2025 23:31 utc | 102 Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Mar 9 2025 23:29 utc | 103 Posted by: UWDude | Mar 9 2025 23:38 utc | 103 The press gangs wont fly in Europe, There will be difficulties. Especially where elections have been recalled. People are not stupid. Those that wanted in on the party already went. Posted by: Npin | Mar 9 2025 23:39 utc | 104 As for the Europeans, maybe a last minute wakeup call will enable them to regroup, marshal their potential, and manage, for the first time in modern history, to act as one — as the inheritor of the once powerful Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation. But maybe not. With such traitors as Hungary, always a mercenary nation since the Khazarian times, in the service of whoever pays them more, it is a tall order. The Hungarians were betting on the defeat of the Khazars by the Slavs in the 800s and abandoned their masters in the steppes of Asia. Having become the new Apostolic mercenaries for the Catholic Church, they established their own feudal fiefdom in Panonia. Now, they lick the asses of Russia and China. Posted by: LongTimeObserver | Mar 9 2025 23:39 utc | 105 first would obliterate the first timstand forward. Posted by: UWDude | Mar 9 2025 23:39 utc | 106 Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Mar 9 2025 23:29 utc | 103 Posted by: Urban Fox | Mar 9 2025 23:41 utc | 107 It’s difficult to envision Europe getting its shit together enough to battle Russia in Ukraine. The discussion here about Europe building up nuclear deterrence and the development of new armaments including space weapons seems to be far-fetched fantasy. Posted by: A rope leash | Mar 9 2025 23:55 utc | 108 “The whole drone war phenomenon in this particular war, and the pace, in no way means thats how a war between Russia and the EU would look. Posted by: Npin | Mar 9 2025 23:56 utc | 109 If Europe wants a piece they will get more than they wanted. If one nuke gets used it over. For all of us. I dont think Trump will be able to stay out. Posted by: UWDude | Mar 10 2025 0:18 utc | 110 The only country that Russia would have a hard time ,”throwing against the wall” IMHO, would be Turkey. If Turkey takes the lead, it would be incredibly difficult for Russia, and the world, to stop full scale, nuclear WW 3. Posted by: UWDude | Mar 10 2025 0:22 utc | 111 113 sure, turkey has a big standing army , but geography does not favour them versus Russia… what is turkeys air and naval power like ? Posted by: E | Mar 10 2025 0:37 utc | 112 Posted by: E | Mar 10 2025 0:37 utc | 114 Posted by: UWDude | Mar 10 2025 0:45 utc | 113 Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Mar 9 2025 20:05 utc | 68 Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Mar 10 2025 0:50 utc | 114 Weeb Union with a succinct update. Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 10 2025 0:50 utc | 115 It is just, if not more likely that the UAF simply collapsed due to time and lack of men/resources/Russia being superior in military tactics. Posted by: UWDude | Mar 10 2025 0:57 utc | 116 “The only country that Russia would have a hard time ,”throwing against the wall” IMHO, would be Turkey. If Turkey takes the lead, it would be incredibly difficult for Russia, and the world, to stop full scale, nuclear WW 3. Posted by: Nipins | Mar 10 2025 1:07 utc | 117 The only country that Russia would have a hard time ,”throwing against the wall” IMHO, would be Turkey. If Turkey takes the lead, it would be incredibly difficult for Russia, and the world, to stop full scale, nuclear WW 3. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 10 2025 1:07 utc | 118 The Ukrainians are arrogant and delusional, they are more like Poles than like Russians in that regard. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 10 2025 1:10 utc | 119 Melaleuca | Mar 10 2025 0:50 utc | 117– Posted by: Nipins | Mar 10 2025 1:07 utc | 120 Posted by: UWDude | Mar 10 2025 1:19 utc | 121 Turkey’s economy lives thanks to Russia. The two gas pipeline and the nuclear power stations being constructed are just the easy to see components. Lots of Russians vacation in Turkey, and a very significant percentage of Turkey’s exports go to the Russian market. The Turkish elite may be Atlanticists is some fashion, but their economy is dependent on Russia no its, ands or buts. “Turkey’s economy lives thanks to Russia. The two gas pipeline and the nuclear power stations being constructed are just the easy to see components. Lots of Russians vacation in Turkey, and a very significant percentage of Turkey’s exports go to the Russian market.” Posted by: MiniMO | Mar 10 2025 1:26 utc | 123 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 10 2025 1:07 utc | 121 Posted by: UWDude | Mar 10 2025 1:31 utc | 124 Russians only fuel the theft and terror of Turkey upon other peoples by supporting its economy. Posted by: UWDude | Mar 10 2025 1:45 utc | 125 MiniMO | Mar 10 2025 1:26 utc | 126– How soon do they forget…Napolean and Hitler had their respective ass handed back to them….Starmar and Macron don’t strike me as being the most intelligent ..maybe third time a charm….. Posted by: Thedriller | Mar 10 2025 1:58 utc | 127 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 10 2025 1:07 utc | 121 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 10 2025 2:02 utc | 128 2012 I am optimistic. I think its over. I think Europe finds itself asserts itself now. USA too. It wont be easy. Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 10 2025 2:07 utc | 129 The problem is Turkey is the seat of a not so ancient Empire. Posted by: Newbie | Mar 10 2025 2:08 utc | 130 Post 75. The dickwod Nipins comes out with the delirious screed that the Ukrainians have shown “incredible tenacity and bravery”. Posted by: Winston | Mar 10 2025 2:10 utc | 131 MASSIVE ADVANCES BY THE RUSSIAN ARMY IN KURSK Posted by: HERMIUS | Mar 10 2025 2:28 utc | 132 No one fighting the Russians now will have much luck. Russia is experienced and the global leader in military technology at this time. Posted by: Samu | Mar 10 2025 2:39 utc | 133 Turkey’s strength is not natural, not organic, it comes from UK and later NATO support, because it’s containing Russia. Once most evil p.o.s. England is on it’s knees, getting there very fast, NATO is gone and will be replaced by Christian alliance led by Russia, supported by USA, Turkey will face consequences, will lose all Kurds territories, will lose Constantinople, will lose access to Black Sea! Posted by: Preki | Mar 10 2025 3:09 utc | 134 Posted by: UWDude | Mar 10 2025 1:19 utc | 124 Posted by: Paranaense | Mar 10 2025 3:14 utc | 135 Posted by: Paranaense | Mar 10 2025 3:14 utc | 138 Posted by: UWDude | Mar 10 2025 3:42 utc | 136 There you go again, blowing hot air out of your arse/mouth, no different to every other opinionated, macho, teenage armchair general on this site. Posted by: UWDude | Mar 10 2025 3:44 utc | 137 There you go again, blowing hot air out of your arse/mouth, no different to every other opinionated, macho, teenage armchair general on this site. Posted by: UWDude | Mar 10 2025 3:48 utc | 138 Posted by: UWDude | Mar 10 2025 3:42 utc | 140 Posted by: Paranaense | Mar 10 2025 3:50 utc | 139 I am not European, nor will I ever be. Europe is NOTHING. It never had any glory days “together”. What does together mean in Europe?! WAR. Posted by: Marija | Mar 10 2025 4:08 utc | 140 How many know about this: “Accelerationism has been conspicuously used to develop defence and surveillance technology. Consider the D3 accelerator which is reportedly “entirely focused on military-related startups.” Initially focusing in Ukraine, the “Dare to Defend Democracy” (D3) accelerator is a public-private partnership that adopts the accelerationist approach to startups focusing exclusively on AI enabled intelligence, cybersecurity, and military technology. Posted by: hispanidad | Mar 10 2025 4:29 utc | 141 Just a comment I found hilarious. Posted by: Suresh | Mar 10 2025 4:51 utc | 142 “… unimaginable level of corruption and graft that DOGE is bringing to light. Retirees over 150 years old…” Posted by: drinky crow | Mar 10 2025 4:52 utc | 143 Posted by: drinky crow | Mar 10 2025 4:52 utc | 147 Posted by: UWDude | Mar 10 2025 4:56 utc | 144 but the whole point of DOGE is to cut the legs out from under the Deep State Posted by: TJandTheBear | Mar 10 2025 4:59 utc | 145 European military potential is greater than Russias… Posted by: TJandTheBear | Mar 10 2025 5:05 utc | 146 Orbital delivery systems will become pretty cheap and very effective with sinking cost of tonnage to orbit (think Starship). They can be used with inert rods for precision targeting and kinetic effect, too. Posted by: TJandTheBear | Mar 10 2025 5:24 utc | 147 Take a hard look a the AUKUS so called buildout and tell me if that effort is going to provide peer deterent. Posted by: General Factotum | Mar 10 2025 5:57 utc | 148 The EU is dying Posted by: berthold | Mar 10 2025 6:31 utc | 149 Posted by: General Factotum | Mar 10 2025 5:57 utc | 152 Posted by: UWDude | Mar 10 2025 6:50 utc | 150 European military potential is greater than Russias… Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 10 2025 7:13 utc | 151 I don’t know the history well, but I am certain that the Ottomans had fought the Russians. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 10 2025 7:22 utc | 152 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 10 2025 7:22 utc | 156 Posted by: UWDude | Mar 10 2025 7:34 utc | 153 If we are to judge the Turks on their own merits there’s nothing in their history to indicate they can defeat the Russians. Posted by: UWDude | Mar 10 2025 7:40 utc | 154 Ukraine has transferred its elite Aidar nazi forces into Kursk region. It’s claimed that several groups of Aidar have been destroyed already in the bulge. Posted by: unimperator | Mar 10 2025 7:45 utc | 155 Ukraine has transferred its elite Aidar nazi forces into Kursk region. It’s claimed that several groups of Aidar have been destroyed already in the bulge. Posted by: 5thcolumn | Mar 10 2025 7:51 utc | 156 European military potential is greater than Russias Posted by: Mario | Mar 10 2025 8:02 utc | 157 EU has cancelled the Romanian election, and has now prevented the most likely presidential winner Georgescu from running in the new election. There are massive riots on the street. Posted by: unimperator | Mar 10 2025 8:03 utc | 158 After US defacto, not de-jure, withdrawal from Nato, EUrotards have gone b*tshit crazy. Baltic states now demanding general mobilization across EU states. Posted by: unimperator | Mar 10 2025 8:07 utc | 159 The Nordic, Baltic states and Poland, and Germany will be left in the EU and form their new Euronato. Posted by: too scents | Mar 10 2025 8:10 utc | 160 Posted by: berthold | Mar 10 2025 6:31 utc | 153 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Mar 10 2025 8:23 utc | 162 Posted by: Mario | Mar 10 2025 8:02 utc | 161 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Mar 10 2025 8:29 utc | 163
What happens in Romania is a template for the solidification of the control of centrist parties across European governments, arguably aptly named the dictatorship of the center. It is implemented to prevent a turn around. I think it will succeed in keeping out-of-center, even majority out-of-center forces, out of government. Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Mar 10 2025 8:36 utc | 164 European military potential is greater than Russias and currently military capabilites if used fully would force complete mobilization of Russia to fend off and hundreds of thousands of casualties including limited nuke strikes on strategic bases. Posted by: Satepestage | Mar 10 2025 8:50 utc | 165 I think it will succeed in keeping out-of-center, even majority out-of-center forces, out of government. Posted by: too scents | Mar 10 2025 8:54 utc | 166 @ drinky crow | Mar 10 2025 4:52 utc | 147 Posted by: I forgot | Mar 10 2025 8:56 utc | 167 Interesting detail from Sudzha. Posted by: unimperator | Mar 10 2025 8:58 utc | 168 Dima says AFU command has lost contact over large groups in Kursk territory trapped in cauldrons, who are code 500 (running away toward the border). Posted by: unimperator | Mar 10 2025 9:05 utc | 169 Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Mar 10 2025 8:36 utc | 168 Posted by: Mario | Mar 10 2025 9:07 utc | 170 Brussels is using Romania to test lawfare against out-of-center political movements across Europe. Posted by: rk | Mar 10 2025 9:17 utc | 171 So, as I and an orchestra of others were preaching from the rooftops of this very forum all those months ago, Kursk turned out to be a trap. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 10 2025 9:56 utc | 172
Exactly. And this is how the European populace, in the mid-term, will wake up from its welfare-induced stupor (its MAGA time) and will send these centrist mediocrities to where they belong: running a small business in some small town, lording over a making miserable a few people instead of whole nations. Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Mar 10 2025 10:05 utc | 173 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 10 2025 9:56 utc | 176 Posted by: Mario | Mar 10 2025 10:19 utc | 174 Posted by: rk | Mar 10 2025 9:17 utc | 175
No, it’s only working in Romania where it is being implemented in tentative fashion, trying things to see what sticks. Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Mar 10 2025 10:24 utc | 175 https://ua-stena.info/en/an-altercation-has-erupted-over-starlink-for-ukraine/ Posted by: UWDude | Mar 10 2025 10:30 utc | 176 this is how the European populace, in the mid-term, will wake up from its welfare-induced stupor (its MAGA time) and will send these centrist mediocrities to where they belong: running a small business in some small town, lording over a making miserable a few people instead of whole nations. Posted by: too scents | Mar 10 2025 10:46 utc | 177 I’ve speak to people that still belive in washing machines, it was true at the time, by them, but then China stepped in. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 10 2025 10:48 utc | 178 I thought Germany was ‘de-industrializing’ and slumping into a recession, then how can they do this?
Posted by: bored | Mar 10 2025 10:58 utc | 179 then how can they do this? Posted by: too scents | Mar 10 2025 11:16 utc | 180 DS had another update, this morning (after the Kursk update last night, Boyd): Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 10 2025 11:28 utc | 181 Posted by: bored | Mar 10 2025 10:58 utc | 183 Posted by: Mario | Mar 10 2025 11:31 utc | 182 I thought Germany was ‘de-industrializing’ and slumping into a recession, then how can they do this? Posted by: UWDude | Mar 10 2025 11:34 utc | 183 The latest Civey poll in Germany: Posted by: grunzt | Mar 10 2025 11:37 utc | 184 Arch Bungle | Mar 10 2025 10:48 utc | 182 Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Mar 10 2025 11:39 utc | 185 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 10 2025 10:48 utc | 182 Posted by: UWDude | Mar 10 2025 11:39 utc | 186 Oh, and you know why NATO uses depleted uranium slugs whereas Russia uses the safer tungsten? Because we don’t have any! Posted by: Newbie | Mar 10 2025 11:41 utc | 187 European military potential is greater than Russias and currently military capabilites if used fully would force complete mobilization of Russia to fend off and hundreds of thousands of casualties including limited nuke strikes on strategic bases. Posted by: Passerby | Mar 10 2025 11:53 utc | 188 Posted by: unimperator | Mar 10 2025 8:58 utc | 172 Posted by: Milites | Mar 10 2025 11:57 utc | 189 A nice update on how through the pipe you get the other side down the drain. Posted by: Newbie | Mar 10 2025 12:11 utc | 190 Stop asking how, instead, ask why? Posted by: Newbie | Mar 10 2025 12:16 utc | 191 Seems RUAF will take control of entire eastern side of the river running through Sudza. AFU may attempt to hold/retreat to the western side, but large parts of their group were already destroyed/surrendered NE/N of Sudzha, caught in cauldrons and without any defenses. Posted by: unimperator | Mar 10 2025 12:22 utc | 192 When the father can’t say directly…
Barron Trump Posted by: ostrr | Mar 10 2025 12:22 utc | 193 Having read Simplicius’ account of the (awe-inspiring) infiltration behind enemy lines of the Russia forces – having gone/crawled through the disused gas pipe – I can only imagine how such a deed of derring-do would be given saturation media coverage in the BBC/similar dishonest media bastards if something a tenth as daring and successful had been completed by troops of the Ukraine. Posted by: RedStarLancashire | Mar 10 2025 12:23 utc | 194 @TJandTheBear | 151 @UWDude @nipins and others Posted by: persiflo | Mar 10 2025 12:31 utc | 195 America had lost the war. Their super duper military machine got hammered by the Russians. Oreshnik and Oreshnik+ is there. What Oreshnik can do was shown once. Once hit, it can heat up the place to the temperature of the sun.Who would survive? It is not even a nuke. Posted by: ostrr | Mar 10 2025 12:40 utc | 196 It’s from Bild, so take it with a truckload of salt.
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Posted by: 5thcolumn | Mar 10 2025 12:44 utc | 197 Exactly. And this is how the European populace, in the mid-term, will wake up from its welfare-induced stupor (its MAGA time) and will send these centrist mediocrities to where they belong: running a small business in some small town, lording over a making miserable a few people instead of whole nations. Posted by: Satepestage | Mar 10 2025 12:45 utc | 198 Alastair Crooke Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 10 2025 13:00 utc | 199 @ Flying Dutchman | Mar 10 2025 11:39 utc | 189 Posted by: I forgot | Mar 10 2025 13:03 utc | 200 |
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