Ukraine Open Thread 2025-048
News & views related to the war in Ukraine ...
Posted by b on March 9, 2025 at 14:26 UTC | Permalink
next page »I don't have specific citations but my understanding is that Russian soldiers did another Avdeevka tactic on the Ukrainians in Sudzha (Kursk).
They used a gas pipeline shut down by Zelensky to walk and transport gear in wheelbarrows behind Ukrainian lines.
Forget weapons. Russian soldiers are wired differently.
The Ukrainians are too but the Russians have God on their side.
Yahweh, God, Allah. Brings out a higher and more courageous level of performance.
Also a lot of surrenders are claimed to be happening in Kursk as supply lines have been cut by an encirclement and Starlink reliability is compromised.
Russian eWar is no joke. Given time, they can disrupt any electronic device.
The Kursk infection is coming to an end, in another humiliating defeat for NATO and Banderastan.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 9 2025 14:37 utc | 1
Kursk is close to becoming what the Germans in WW II called a 'kessel,' bottling up soldiers by surrounding up to tens of thousands of them. The Germans preferred to kill them off. POWs need to be watched and fed.
Stalin gave them the same treatment.
Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 9 2025 14:43 utc | 2
I saw a couple rumors about Russian tunnel tactic & Sudzka. Came here to ask...Love answered in advance...
Posted by: Mary | Mar 9 2025 14:45 utc | 3
As documentation and awareness of civilian killings in Kursk spreads, the political value of the Kursk incursion will turn dramatically negative. Some of the Ukrainians surrendering in Kursk may face war crimes trials.
Posted by: HH | Mar 9 2025 14:48 utc | 4
Posted by: Acco Hengst | Mar 9 2025 14:43 utc | 2
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They may kill the mercenaries but NATO troops have too much propaganda and trade value to just "waste them".
Maybe in the heat of the moment some will catch strays.
I presume they will capture and try to deprogram the 14-year-olds that Zelensky has started using.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 9 2025 14:53 utc | 5
Good update by Weeb Union about what is happening in Kursk, a collapse of the Ukrainian lines and multiple encirclements taking place. Much of the Ukrainian forces will be killed or captured, facilitating a Russian push into the Sumy region. The Ukrainians will have to send more troops to that region to replace the lost troops, weakening the other fronts. Starting to be an utter disaster on a strategic level for the Ukrainians.
Other sources say that the Ukrainians have been ordered to still hold on and defend, which will only mean massive losses and even more troops needlessly sent to their deaths or captivity. Many of the troops are the elite elements, so even better for the Russians. Plays very well into a Russian Spring offensive against a much weakened Ukrainian army.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1xvEsUavKA
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Mar 9 2025 15:02 utc | 6
Interviews with surrendering Kursk invading Ukrainians.
https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1898488493497839831
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 9 2025 15:04 utc | 7
The US of A cannot be trusted.
Mr. Donald John Trump (DJT) intends to transfer US troops to countries that meet NATO's defense spending targets and have plans to increase them.
At the moment 35,000 US troops are on their service in Germany.
Posted by: pepe | Mar 9 2025 15:10 utc | 8
the russians do not have "god on their side" what bad movies have you been watching?
may i remind you of Yevgeny Prigozhin, probably the only decent russian out there who had to march on moscow in order to get these poor kids fed and armed.
The ones running the show now are nothing but a bunch of corrupt money grubbing losers. The US is stupid to make a deal with them, they have no interest in stopping the war , merely lining their filthy pockets.
Russia was almost down, the sanctions were working
Posted by: abee | Mar 9 2025 15:13 utc | 9
ahhh. I forgot, we are managed buy a bunch of corrupt money grubbing losers. oh well then, they have a lot in common
Posted by: abee | Mar 9 2025 15:15 utc | 10
Putin tells it like it is.
https://nitter.poast.org/afshinrattansi/status/1898383771939881121#m
The EU is gaslighting its citizens - to take money from them via cutting public services and welfare benefits, to give to the MIC's, not forgetting the politicians pushing this will get huge kick-backs in cash etc, from the MIC's for awarding them huge contracts - the only losers are the citizens from the EU - their living standards will continue to plummet.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 9 2025 15:15 utc | 11
Ukrainian Nationalists Commemorate Nazi Collaborator (& vid)
https://www.rt.com/russia/613897-ukrainian-nationalists-commemorate-nazi-collaborator/
"Roman Shukevich and his forces were implicated in the mass murder of Jews and Poles during WWII. Russia has repeatedly sounded the alarm over the resurgence of Nazi ideology in Ukraine and has listed 'denazification' as one of the key goals of its military operation against Kiev."
Some useful RT docs on the topic:
Operation Ukraine: Bandera's Dark Shadow
https://en.rtdoc.tv/films/955-operation-ukraine-banderas-dark-shadow
Operation Ukraine: America's Fingerprints
https://en.rt.rtdoc.tv/films/1270-operation-ukraine-americas-fingerprints
From Berlin to Maidan
https://en.rtdoc.tv/films/1070-from-berlin-to-maidan
Inventing Ukraine
https://en.rtdoc.tv/films/1221-inventing-ukraine
Divide and Conquer
https://en.rtdoc.tv/films/1389-divide-and-conquer
Hybrid Warfare
https://en.rtdoc.tv/episodes/663-hybrid-warfare
Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 9 2025 15:16 utc | 12
Researcher Moss Robeson:
Trident, Swastika, Eagle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQKkbUp72iM
"The Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists, the Holocaust and the origins of the Bandera lobby in the USA."
Unmasking the Bandera Lobby
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qAEGAxCUU
"OUN-B and its role in the Ukraine conflict."
Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 9 2025 15:23 utc | 13
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 9 2025 15:04 utc | 7
"I was going to surrender. I don't want to shoot anybody."
"How do feel now?"
"Good relations. Human relations..."
Posted by: Mary | Mar 9 2025 15:27 utc | 14
Unmasking the Bandera Lobby (url corrected from above)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3qAEGAxCUU
Operation Ukraine: America's Fingerprints (url corrected)
https://en.rtdoc.tv/films/1270-opration-ukraine-americas-fingerprints
Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 9 2025 15:29 utc | 15
Ukraine Weekly Update, 7th March 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-292
Posted by: The Busker | Mar 9 2025 15:32 utc | 16
i asked a friend how they feel about germany falling in the same propaganda trap they fell for during the third reich, and all i got was "what propaganda? russian?".
there is no hope for this country anymore. good riddance.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 9 2025 15:36 utc | 17
Russia was almost down, the sanctions were working
Posted by: abee | Mar 9 2025 15:13 utc | 9
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Which clinic did you come from?
Or just desperate and stupid.
Posted by: berthold | Mar 9 2025 15:39 utc | 18
CBC: How Billions of Dollars in Frozen Russian Assets Could Help Ukraine
https://www.cbc.ca/play/video/9.6676873
"United for Ukraine." (Theft)
Canadian Imperialism's Fascist Friends - Part 1
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/05/16/vxen-m16.html
"Ottawa's decades-long alliance with the Ukrainian far-right and the NATO war on Russia. This is the first in a five part series."
Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 9 2025 15:53 utc | 19
hat I don't understand correctly:
"The Ukrainian armed forces attacked a market in the Kherson region with two HIMARS missiles. There are casualties, said Governor Saldo."
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I thought the USA banned satellite data from being passed on to Ukraine?
So how did these HIMARS missiles hit their target??
Posted by: berthold | Mar 9 2025 15:53 utc | 20
Sat data for strikes into Russia. I assume that the US is still supplying data for inside Ukraine.
Posted by: TundraTide | Mar 9 2025 15:57 utc | 21
[email protected] holding War Crimes trails for the poor wee bastards at the front.....much wrist slapping expected? Maybe a tickle trunk full of fluffy feathers to torture Tiny Dancer's feet....he's been so naughty of late.....good job Trump pulled the US's ISR.....or the SlogMow would be like The Song That Never Ends.....
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 9 2025 16:00 utc | 22
CBC: How Billions of Dollars in Frozen Russian Assets Could Help Ukraine (corrected url) from #19
https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.6676873
Outrageous and illegal. Grand larceny.
Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 9 2025 16:01 utc | 23
Sat data for strikes into Russia. I assume that the US is still supplying data for inside Ukraine.
Posted by: TundraTide | Mar 9 2025 15:57 utc | 21
The first HIMARS attacks in a while...
Just tells me one thing "Don't trust any American"
And I'm sure Putin and about 90% of Russians see it that way too...
Although:
The reason for the renewed recording of the attack data could be...
"Ukraine is losing" and is losing too quickly for Trump's liking.
because he doesn't have one thing...time.
Woe to Ukraine if it collapses faster than he can seal a deal.
Explains why Trump is delivering again, and WE will never know whether US weapons are arriving or being delivered again, only notice them later.
And Trump alone is interested in Ukraine not collapsing too quickly, AND not completely collapsing or even capitulating.
They are allowed to do ANYTHING...just one thing NOT capitulating, then all investments and all deals would be lost!
That would explain it!!
Posted by: berthold | Mar 9 2025 16:08 utc | 24
John [email protected] there were 35 million Canadians polled, 40 million of them would still support the Ukraine over Russia. How many Canadians died saving the English Royal family from fellow Germans during two world wars? There are a handful of Canadians on MOA, that's it for about the support Russia will get from Canadians.
Cheers M
.....care to put a number on how many Canadians might die in Europe saving the King and his Royal Family from the Russians......lucky for Canada Trump's on their side....he's going to, by default, save their butt when he and Putin get the details of the ceasefire worked out ....soon, hopefully.
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 9 2025 16:17 utc | 25
"I was going to surrender. I don't want to shoot anybody."
"How do feel now?"
"Good relations. Human relations..."
Posted by: Mary | Mar 9 2025 15:27 utc | 14
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Let me guess — he also claimed to have been a cook?
Like countless other Ukroid POWs…
Posted by: malenkov | Mar 9 2025 16:35 utc | 26
Russian eWar is no joke. Given time, they can disrupt any electronic device.
The Kursk infection is coming to an end, in another humiliating defeat for NATO and Banderastan.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 9 2025 14:37 utc | 1
Good primer on EW in general and Russian EW in particular
Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 9 2025 16:41 utc | 27
forgot the link https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B6HRRByeIY
Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 9 2025 16:43 utc | 28
Berthold, shutting off the intel only prevents Ukraine from acquiring new coordinates, not from using old ones.
Any operation that they had planned before the shutoff would include precise GPS coordinates. They can still use those coordinates that they have on hand.
Posted by: team10tim | Mar 9 2025 16:48 utc | 29
Musk Calls For Sanctions On Ukrainian Oligarchs
https://www.rt.com/news/613929-musk-ukraine-oligarchs-conflict/
"Elon Musk has suggested that sanctioning Ukraine's top ten oligarchs could bring about a swift resolution of the conflict with Russia..."
Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 9 2025 16:52 utc | 30
Not to mention a market is a stationary civilian object. You don't need fancy ISR for that, unless it grows legs.
Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Mar 9 2025 16:58 utc | 31
Others here have stated, "rearming" Europe in a tactical way makes no sense when Europe already has the makings of a nuclear umbrella with France and UK. If RF can be a nuclear superpower, for purposes of deterrence, then what's good for the gander is good for the goose, so to say. I.e. EU should expand and extend its limited preexisting nuclear deterrence to something approaching strategic parity or efficacy vis a vis RF, thereby making of itself a fourth independent nuclear defended pole. However, I suspect the US would oppose this, which is precisely what Ukraine was about, i.e. extending a US-controlled nuclear "deterrence" to the RF's borders. However an autonomous EU nuclear deterrence need not, indeed should not do the same: expansion of the capabilities of UK, France, and perhaps Italy, but not including Germany should be enough. The problem of course (though I don't think it intractable) is what transnational EU entity will have monitoring oversight for the arsenal? Evidently a new one would have to be created.
Yet even if just the French and UK nuclear arsenals were expanded and made more efficient that should be enough of a deterrence against RF, considering that if RF would ever dare to launch a nuclear attack against either or both of the aforesaid, the US would likely respond as well against RF, although perhaps not with a "full" nuclear strike at first. So, in short, modernizing/expanding the nuclear deterrence capabilities of France and UK respectively should be enough to deter a RF invasion of the rest of the EU, especially considering that the US would not remain neutral.
Posted by: Ludovic | Mar 9 2025 17:01 utc | 32
So how did these HIMARS missiles hit their target??
Posted by: berthold | Mar 9 2025 15:53 utc | 20
HIMARS is a rocket launcher. It can launch unguided missiles like a regular MLRS as well as guided. Look up M26 rockets.
Posted by: HB_Norica | Mar 9 2025 17:02 utc | 33
Without Starlink, Ukraine would have lost the war long ago and Russian troops would be on Poland's borders, said Marco Rubio.
The Secretary of State added that the United States would not disconnect Ukraine from Starlink: "Say thank you."
My comment:
Anyone who does NOT switch off Starlink but is allegedly putting pressure on Sylenski, wants to do so?
They are not being honest...they want a rest of Ukraine and only because of the investments.
Anyone who supposedly wants to save people's lives switches it off and that's the end of it.
Anything else is hypocritical!
Posted by: berthold | Mar 9 2025 17:02 utc | 34
Posted by: Ludovic | Mar 9 2025 17:01 utc | 32
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What is the point of a nuclear "deterrent" under the power of the USA or France? (Europe)
The respective states would have no access to it, just as the Germans do not have access to nuclear bombs in Germany.
F35...yesterday a German general admitted that these F35s would not be launched in any country in the world if the USA turned the key.
So start at the bottom. First develop your own 6th generation jet, then build it, then test it, which can carry YOUR OWN developed nuclear weapons.
Or develop, test and build your own launch vehicles that meet at least hypersonic criteria.
The Russians and Chinese are so far ahead in technology that it took Europe around 75 years AND they have ACCESS TO RESOURCES that Europe would not have even if they decided to do it tomorrow.
The USA is sitting on nuclear technology that is at least 50 years old...their F35, supposedly a 5th generation jet, can only dream of the 6th generation, which is anything but reliable, let alone up to date.
Things are going crazy in the USA with the USA...Europe has already disappeared as a strategic enemy...
Posted by: berthold | Mar 9 2025 17:14 utc | 35
@ Mary | Mar 9 2025 14:45 utc | 3
. . .doing the pipeline thing. . .
Yuri Podolyaka, a Ukrainian-born, pro-Russian military blogger, said Russian special forces crept nearly 16 km (10 miles) along the inside of the 1.5 metre wide gas pipeline and spent several days in the pipe before surprising Ukrainian forces from the rear near Sudzha. . .here
Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 9 2025 17:16 utc | 36
@ Posted by: abee | Mar 9 2025 15:15 utc | 10
A lot of the bar flies are drunk on Russophilia, but I'm quite confident that the average Russian knows that their kleptocrats don't have their best interests at heart, and are merely doing what's best for Russian national capital. Hundreds of thousands of lives thrown away for industrial plunder and nebulous "national security" concerns really drive that point home.
The thorny problem of the rest of this decade, and then the next decade, will be uniting the working classes of the advanced capitalist economies (Russia, the US, Western Europe, Canada, South Korea, Japan) against our kleptocrats and the capitalist ruling class, who are driving us toward imperialist war, and potentially nuclear holocaust.
Posted by: fnord | Mar 9 2025 17:18 utc | 37
A Polish family friend captured by the Germans and then moved from the Polish army to the Wermacht made it all the way to Stalingrad. He was one of the last out.
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His comment 'but I was only a barber. Why was I in Stalingrad?'.
Posted by: Merkin Scot | Mar 9 2025 17:24 utc | 38
Project owl map suddenly updated kursk and AFU lost control of nearly everything.
And with RF holding fire control of the exit I'm afraid I'll run out of popcorn.
And sumy would be a nice next step, keep hitting whatever AFU has there and hear them scream...
Posted by: Newbie | Mar 9 2025 17:26 utc | 39
The thorny problem ... will be uniting the working classes ... the capitalist ruling class
Posted by: fnord | Mar 9 2025 17:18 utc | 37
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This problem is made considerably simpler by post Plaza Accords fiat monetary system, the collapse of credit, and the arrival of new alternatives.
Posted by: too scents | Mar 9 2025 17:27 utc | 40
Mr. Donald John Trump (DJT) intends to transfer US troops to countries that meet NATO's defense spending targets and have plans to increase them.
Posted by: pepe | Mar 9 2025 15:10 utc | 8
If spending less on arms means the US closes it's bases and leaves, then I suggest halving the defense budget.
Posted by: Passerby | Mar 9 2025 17:34 utc | 41
@berthold | Mar 9 2025 17:02 utc | 34
It's just marketing. After all nato crap failed completely they've realized that imaginary stuff always wins imaginary battles. So Elon is advertising it as much as possible while smo still exists. "It's the best, Jerry, the best!!!"
I'm sure Starlink is useful, especially for terrorists and placed on drones, but in war or even little smos like this, is highly overrated. And used by RF as well, Elon can't tell which stations belong to them, he only knows the location. Ukr ground stations are great to direct strikes there. Even though China claims to be able to destroy Starlinks on their sky, they may choose not to simply because they will place, or have already placed more of their own satellites over America.
And a fun note: Elon was revealed again as liar. He claimed he's a top gamer, best on the planet, then posted videos of him playing. However, he played badly, like a beginner, and to reach that level with his style of playing woukd take hundreds of hours anyway. The boy who wanted to make vacuum trains is an actor, exactly like his friend Zeli or Theranos, also supported by the same gang, until she wasn't
Posted by: rk | Mar 9 2025 17:36 utc | 42
Posted by: Ludovic | Mar 9 2025 17:01 utc | 32
An “independent” European nuclear deterrent is a complete non-starter. Most of Europe is already within the range of Russia’s intermediate-range, conventionally-tipped hypersonic missiles. A nuclear response to those would be a suicidal escalation for Europe.
And what of those European nations that have signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty? Are they going to abrogate that agreement, then wring their hands when other nations around the world follow their example?
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 9 2025 17:40 utc | 43
Pepe Escobar posted the following at his Telegram:
Forwarded from Lord Of War (Not a Serb)
Three years of war and the Russian economy...
Today, data on the preliminary parameters of the Russian Federation budget execution for 2024 was released. And I was pleasantly surprised that we not only fit into the 3.3 trillion rubles deficit included in it, but even received a much smaller one.
Moreover, of the three war years, this is our most successful financial year:
Russian Budget 2022 Deficit 2.1% of GDP (3.29 trillion rubles)
Russian Budget 2023 Deficit 1.9% of GDP (3.2 trillion rubles)
Russian Budget 2024 Deficit 1.7% of GDP (2.95 trillion rubles)
Agree to wage a major war and at the same time constantly reduce the size of the budget deficit, this says something.
And this shows that the collective West has already admitted that sanctions against Russia, although they cause damage, are not at all what they expected.
At the same time, during the three years of war, the country's international reserves have not decreased:
Russia's international reserves at the beginning of the Second World War were $630 billion, and now they are $632 billion.
And the debts have not grown much. And the external debt has even decreased:
External public debt at the beginning of the Second World War - $59.5 billion
Domestic public debt at the beginning of the Second World War - 16.5 trillion rubles
External public debt now - $52.1 billion
Domestic public debt now - 23.45 trillion rubles
That is, the war was completely financed by the country's internal resources, in the context of its more than stable growth.
These are the interesting conclusions we get after summing up the impact of three years of war on the Russian economy.
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I must agree with the conclusion. The economic balancing act performed by Russia's government is profound. The above data, however, will be ignored by the West.
Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 9 2025 17:44 utc | 44
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As a German, I don't want to see Germany's true numbers...
And these will certainly not improve after taking on around 1.2 trillion in debt.
If you think of the ten-year government bonds, which rose by more than 20% points just after the announcement of this debt...and since the loans of house builders etc. depend on these numbers, Germany is heading for a financial catastrophe...which will devalue the EURO and not just by around 10 cents
Posted by: Ost Rentner | Mar 9 2025 17:55 utc | 45
Yet even if just the French and UK nuclear arsenals were expanded and made more efficient that should be enough of a deterrence against RF, considering that if RF would ever dare to launch a nuclear attack against either or both of the aforesaid, the US would likely respond as well against RF, although perhaps not with a "full" nuclear strike at first. So, in short, modernizing/expanding the nuclear deterrence capabilities of France and UK respectively should be enough to deter a RF invasion of the rest of the EU, especially considering that the US would not remain neutral.
Posted by: Ludovic | Mar 9 2025 17:01 utc | 32
Peter Drucker used to say:
"There's nothing so pointless as doing efficiently that which should not be done at all."
... Or something to that effect.
The Russians are never going to invade Europe.
They never have.
Deterring against something that will never happen is simply inviting calamity against oneself.
Weapons have demonic power. If you don't use them they will eventually use you ...
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 9 2025 18:02 utc | 46
@32
UK, Frances aged nuke are less usable than North Korea’s new generate, tipped on new missiles.
Upgrading their nukes is expensive and likely need help…
The EU, Germany, France, UK, Italy etc should be broken up to their 1815 configuration.
Let the counties and duchies get along
Posted by: paddy | Mar 9 2025 18:03 utc | 47
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 9 2025 17:40 utc | 43
People are convinced history goes in one direction, until one day it doesn't.
Lithuania (pop. 2,897,430) has withdrawn from the cluster munition convention.
Posted by: Passerby | Mar 9 2025 18:06 utc | 48
Posted by: Passerby | Mar 9 2025 18:06 utc | 48
Lithuania may regret that decision eventually, as Russia has a lot more and accurate cluster munitions than Lithuania.
Posted by: unimperator | Mar 9 2025 18:08 utc | 49
Posted by: Passerby | Mar 9 2025 18:06 utc | 48
Posted by: unimperator | Mar 9 2025 18:08 utc | 49
if i may say something that may sound a little conspiratory, but... lithuania also has a russian population.
so i wouldnt be surprised if this is just another genocidal ploy from the "values" west to further kill of russians of any kind. they definetly do not care if said russian is in russia proper, the ukraine, or eventually in lithuania. as long as they can drag them into the meatgrinder, the french, british and germans, in true nazi fashion, are fine with it.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 9 2025 18:19 utc | 50
Posted by: Passerby | Mar 9 2025 18:06 utc | 48
Meh, mice don’t really roar...
And sometimes the direction of history runs into basic engineering design questions such as:
What are the launch platform options for a European nuclear deterrent?
- Air-launched? Using the... er.. F-35?
- Submarine launched? Got the skilled welders?
- Ground-mobile launched? Can they be hidden from Kinzhals and Oreshniks?
- Got the energy and raw material resources? Got the design and development resources?
And all this has to be funded, including the all-important quarterly bonuses for the senior execs...
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 9 2025 18:24 utc | 51
#51
Airbus makes serviceable ballistic missiles, it’s rocket science, but not hard rocket science. Cruise missiles too.
Posted by: BillB | Mar 9 2025 18:29 utc | 52
To all the good people who believe in Zelensky:
Scott Ritter's five star, two part July 2023 expose: "Agent Zelensky Parts One & Two" Was Censored instantly by utube, is still on Rumble.
It smashes the widely believed & mass propagated Big Lies of the US/UK/NATO warmongers.
https://rumble.com/v2zs3r0-a-scott-ritter-investigation-agent-zelensky-part-1.html
Please seek truth & question the politicians narratives! Soon or later you will realize that NATO is a war machine run by men who do not want peace, they dream of endless wars, big lies & massive profits. Surely some if not most of them have been honeytrapped/blackmailed & bribed.
They should be pitied & removed from power asap.
Posted by: WillSeymour | Mar 9 2025 18:29 utc | 53
Yet even if just the French and UK nuclear arsenals were expanded and made more efficient that should be enough of a deterrence against RF, considering that if RF would ever dare to launch a nuclear attack against either or both of the aforesaid, the US would likely respond as well against RF, although perhaps not with a "full" nuclear strike at first. So, in short, modernizing/expanding the nuclear deterrence capabilities of France and UK respectively should be enough to deter a RF invasion of the rest of the EU, especially considering that the US would not remain neutral.
Posted by: Ludovic | Mar 9 2025 17:01 utc | 32
Final question on this.
How will the Western Europeans react if the Russians do NOT use nuclear weapons but ones like the Hazelnut...which can cause similar destruction..
I will specify the question...how, as mentioned above, will the USA react to weapons that are NOT nuclear but 100% destructive?
Ergo...it's all theory that comes to the same conclusion: "You can't defeat a nuclear power, a nuclear power does not capitulate or only does so when it has pressed the last button.
And sorry.
I see the more sensible statesmen at the moment who are not "pressing" in Russia and China...
The crazy ones, because they are about to lose everything, are more likely to be in the West...
Posted by: berthold | Mar 9 2025 18:31 utc | 54
The EU, Germany, France, UK, Italy etc should be broken up to their 1815 configuration.Posted by: paddy | Mar 9 2025 18:03 utc | 47Let the counties and duchies get along
Heh, Poland definitely would not be happy: https://postimg.cc/c6TnwZ3H though there would be no argument about the status (or spelling) of Odessa...
And no sign of any nation starting with the letter ‘U’ and ending in ‘kraine’...
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 9 2025 18:39 utc | 55
What launch platform options are there for a European nuclear deterrent?
- From the air? With the... er... F-35?
- Launched from a submarine? Are there the necessary welders?
- Launched from a mobile ground? Can they be hidden from Kinzhals and Oreshniks?
- Are there the necessary energy and raw material resources? Are there the necessary design and development resources?
And all of this has to be funded, including the all-important quarterly bonuses for the senior executives...
Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | 9. März 2025 18:24 UTC | 51
You forgot a few things.
1 ) Is there a dividend (meaning is there a profit)
which is probably the main problem in capitalism...
2) Where do we get the raw materials for construction (from future enemy Russia?)
3) Who has skilled workers?
4) Who has experience with development
Take the developers who developed Abrahams or Leos, PHZ 2000 or the F35 and good luck with that.
And last but not least, who has the soldiers for that...in Germany, for example, "patriot" is the same as Nazi...there is no longer any national pride.
Posted by: Ost Rentner | Mar 9 2025 18:42 utc | 56
400 bodies from Kursk came to the mortuary in Sumy. And most are still left behind, in the ground.
https://x.com/NovichokRossiya/status/1898806093696184810
Posted by: unimperator | Mar 9 2025 18:48 utc | 57
Posted by: Ludovic | Mar 9 2025 17:01 utc | 32
Italy has no nuclear capabilities other than the american B61s which would be loaded on italian bombers in wartime.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 9 2025 18:24 utc | 51
Well, no one is going to give VdL nukes but in technical terms both France and Britan can build SSBNs, albeit the latter relies on american SLBMs.
Posted by: Satepestage | Mar 9 2025 18:50 utc | 58
Airbus makes serviceable ballistic missiles, it’s rocket science, but not hard rocket science. Cruise missiles too.Posted by: BillB | Mar 9 2025 18:29 utc | 52
Fair comment, but it’s penny-packet numbers, and aren’t currently nuclear-capable without US supplied warheads.
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both France and Britan can build SSBNsPosted by: Satepestage | Mar 9 2025 18:50 utc | 58
True enough, though these days, looking around in Britain at least, I’m not sure how much build capability remains, never mind completing the projects on time and within budget. It’s getting to be quite a struggle to maintain the existing fleet.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 9 2025 19:07 utc | 59
Posted by: Ludovic | Mar 9 2025 17:01 utc | 32
Ludicrous and completely stupid. Russia will never attack France or UK or any other ee country, unless they attack first. You are only relying western propaganda and lies.
And as the leaders of the ee countries are cowards, they will never dare to attack Russia.
ee = european empire.
Posted by: Naive | Mar 9 2025 19:27 utc | 60
Posted by: fnord | Mar 9 2025 17:18 utc | 37
"A lot of the bar flies are drunk on Russophilia, but I'm quite confident that the average Russian knows that their kleptocrats don't have their best interests at heart, and are merely doing what's best for Russian national capital. Hundreds of thousands of lives thrown away for industrial plunder and nebulous "national security" concerns really drive that point home."
So do you think the average Russian should have refused to fight, let NATO park nuclear missiles just across the Ukrainian border and hoped in the good will and human decency of the West? I'm not sure that would have been a better option.
Posted by: Paranaense | Mar 9 2025 19:31 utc | 61
Nuclear gravity bombs seem to me to be hopelessly outdated now. Russia newest Iskander doubled its range to 1000 km a clear result of Trumps exiting the INF. Maybe he is a Russian agent because exiting it only allowed Russian development of weapons while NATO has no significant counterparts. If there is a competitor to Russian missile technology its China and its not close. The Russian missiles will penetrate defenses just as we see in Ukraine. What good are nuclear weapon systems without peer delivery systems? All based on a belief that only this power of destruction allows legitimacy. EU cant face the truth that they have nothing Russia wants. I dont think Russia would take the EU if it was gifted to them. Raather than accept their status the EU finds it easier to pretend they are in a existential conflict. It distracts from the fact that they are bankrupt with only their neoliberal beliefs to sustain them. Strokin B-61 s does not feed families.
Posted by: Nipins | Mar 9 2025 19:40 utc | 62
Russian latest group strike on strategic energy infrastructure indicates a change in policy regarding future gas supply to the West via Ukraine.
Apparently, there are "leaked" reports of some of the conditions laid out by Russia to the US at Riyadh.
Martyanov laid out the number of operational subs available at any one time in both the Brits and French navies.
He also pointed out the last time France fired one from a sub was in 2010. The 2023 test was carried out from ground testing station and was an improved model that may not have been rolled out yet and deployed on board.
The Brits tried twice in 2016 and again 2024. Note how long it takes to try again.
Posted by: Suresh | Mar 9 2025 19:44 utc | 63
Posted by: Nipins | Mar 9 2025 19:40 utc | 62
I believe the biggest factor in Trump leaving the INF was that China was not included in the pact giving China no constraints.(1)
1. "The Trump administration claimed another reason for the withdrawal was to counter a Chinese arms buildup in the Pacific, including within the South China Sea, as China was not a signatory to the treaty. The US formally suspended the treaty on 1 February 2019,[14] and Russia did so on the following day in response. The United States formally withdrew from the treaty on 2 August 2019. 92)
2. Wiki
The Brits tried twice in 2016 and again 2024. Note how long it takes to try again.
Posted by: Suresh | Mar 9 2025 19:44 utc | 63
Correction: Failed twice.
Posted by: Suresh | Mar 9 2025 19:50 utc | 65
And what of those European nations that have signed the Non-Proliferation Treaty? Are they going to abrogate that agreement, then wring their hands when other nations around the world follow their example?
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 9 2025 17:40 utc | 43
Good point.
What you have mentioned wasn't even contemplated in the emotional hysteria response to Trump’s direction changes.
There hasn't been too much contingency planning I'd guess.
Agreement incapable comes to mind.
Posted by: jpc | Mar 9 2025 19:59 utc | 66
The thorny problem of the rest of this decade, and then the next decade.....
Posted by: fnord | Mar 9 2025 17:18 utc | 37
...
Russia might have some problems next century too, you fakingnord. Russophilia is a good thing, it's a love, very positive emotion. You are f-you-nord moron who is drunk on Russophobia, which is very negative, bad emotion.
Posted by: Preki | Mar 9 2025 20:05 utc | 67
Ukrainian resistance in Kursk was compromised by the need to vacate russian territory to start negotiations as demanded by Trump. Putin stuck by his demand that no negotiations while "old" russian territory was occupied. Ukrainian military potential was transferred to toretsk and povrosk which undergoing Ukrainian counter offensive which have had partial success. I urge everyone to put their reality glasses and on avoid premature celebration. Europe's surge to ukraine will start soon possibly with boots on the ground. This Will mean russian has attrited the Ukrainians successfully and is starting on europes willingness to bleed to hold the line. It's very unlikely they'll volunteer to the last European although the death toll that's too high is yet to be determined.
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Mar 9 2025 20:05 utc | 68
Posted by: unimperator | Mar 9 2025 18:08 utc | 49
It gets better: Lithuania is also considering leaving the Ottawa Convention banning anti-personnel mines.
Lumbumbashi, Congo, has more people than Lithuania, and gives us less problems.
Posted by: Passerby | Mar 9 2025 20:08 utc | 69
Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 9 2025 17:44 utc | 44The economic balancing act performed by Russia's government is profound.
Well, there is also the fact that Russia's government is reaping the benefits of presiding over a young and vigorous capitalist system.
The West picked the wrong time to fight the Russians. Or they were caught by surprise and reacted late.
Russia is like South Korea, Japan and China when they started to prosper.
I guess it's really hard to stop the growth of a young and vigorous capitalist economy with a sovereign currency and large populations.
With the exception of Japan of course.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Mar 9 2025 20:19 utc | 70
TDS victim: "Trump said XYZ, so he intends to ..."
Stop being foolish. Trump is laying down conditions for NATO countries that he knows they will never meet. It is like demanding that the Ukraine hand over everything of value to the US. It is political, and possibly literal, suicide for EU leaders to agree to Trump's demands, and Trump knows it. These deals Trump is offering are not intended to be agreed to and honored. If the Europeons try to call Trump's bluff and agree to the conditions, then Trump will have raise the demands and try something else to trick the Europeons into blowing up the deal, like he and Vance did with Zelenskiiyyy.
This is just Trump maneuvering to peel any American support away from the Europeons and leave the fault for the failure of NATO on their hands.
Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 9 2025 20:22 utc | 71
"1. "The Trump administration claimed another reason for the withdrawal was to counter a Chinese arms buildup in the Pacific, including within the South China Sea, as China was not a signatory to the treaty. The US formally suspended the treaty on 1 February 2019,[14] and Russia did so on the following day in response. The United States formally withdrew from the treaty on 2 August 2019. 92)"
Regardless. Exiting the INF was a huge mistake. I dont hold it against Trump. It is a example of how certain beliefs lead to untenable positions. Outsourcing production and manufacturing is inevitable to nations that issue rserve currencys as the currency takes value as a financial instrument. Basically it is credit and using credit has a fee. Extrapolate this and you have carrier groups sailing through the Taiwan strait. Untenable. Would the Chiese be building out their military and nuclear capacity without carrier groups and subs in the south China sea? Will Taiwan be destroyed like Ukraine?
The realities of the world as it is need to be accepted. Common sense negotiations from a perspective of equality and respect for sovereign nations needs to occur. Brinksmanship and force projection are untenable positions and will only become increasingly untenable. The focus nneds to be a growing understanding that diplomacy and agreements are the only alternative to untenable positions.
The inf treaty was a product of hundreds of individuals hammering out a agreement. If it was so bad it could not be tolerated than a renegotiation should have been instituted. That respects diplomacy. if China needed to be included then they should have been included in the renegotiation. That would hve respected diplomacy. Trump just tossed INF. That is not progress. It resulted in Russia being much better armed with WMDs to boot. Untenable position.
At the root of this is the idea that nuclear armed carrier groups get to sail up to everyones doorstep but no such thing may approach the USA. No one really wantss to approach the USA. No one wants to threatan the USA. We are just like Europe. We indulge in this threat creation because it alows force projection. Everyone realizes force projection is untenable. You dont exit from a untenable position so primary overnight but that doesn't mean you don't try.
To a extent force projection is based on a reality that force creates order. That reality is now dwarfed by the reality that force projection as we know it is untenable. only diplomacy and agreements can create order now.
Posted by: Nipins | Mar 9 2025 20:26 utc | 72
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Mar 9 2025 20:05 utc | 68
There will be no volunteering, as there is no volunteering in Ukraine.
If we go there it will be rampant fascIsm/nazism in Europe exactly as it happened before WWII.
Posted by: Mario | Mar 9 2025 20:39 utc | 73
"1. "The Trump administration claimed another reason for the withdrawal was to counter a Chinese arms buildup in the Pacific, including within the South China Sea, as China was not a signatory to the treaty. The US formally suspended the treaty on 1 February 2019,[14] and Russia did so on the following day in response. The United States formally withdrew from the treaty on 2 August 2019. 92)"
Canuk
"Regardless. Exiting the INF was a huge mistake."
Posted by: Nipins | Mar 9 2025 20:26 utc | 72
I vehemently disagree.
Trump, obviously, considers China as the top US foe and tying the US's hands with Russia with the INF while China can progress with the tech makes no sense.
When you get a chance study the Thucydides trap-ie Athens and Sparta battle each other while Macedonia builds.
How did that work out for Athens and Sparta?
Our issue-same idea, different context.
Going to play in the Ukraine meat grinder is a rather different proposition than the sand box with a A-10 overhead. The Ukrainians have shown incredible bravery and tenacity but of course the ending is inevitable. Are the French and British motivated to demonstrate those qualities? No. Its over. Even creatures like Macron know it so he starts talking about nukes. If hes that distraught he should seppeku two cuts that would show some class. Not talk about blowing up the world like a madman. Trump actually seems to get this although of course he has misconceptions. At least he said it. "the nuclear weapons are crazy we should get rid of them". Whatever Trump is thats the sanest talk I have ever heard from a USA president. Its of course just talk. All sorts of things exit Trumps mouth. None the less I am hopeful.
Posted by: Nipins | Mar 9 2025 20:51 utc | 75
Passerby | Mar 9 2025 20:08 utc | 69
"Lumbumbashi, Congo, has more people than Lithuania, and gives us less problems."
It was always a bad idea to give the Baltic statelets sovereign statehood. They've long since proven themselves to be Westphalia-incapable, and their only purpose for existing has always been as a geopolitical dagger Europe aims at Russia. As big a pain as it would be, and as little as anyone in Russia would want to do it, it'll probably be necessary for Russia to put an end to this Baltic farce (just like they're finally having to put an end to the "Ukraine" experiment). Stalin was right about that strategic necessity.
Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Mar 9 2025 20:59 utc | 76
Military Summary channel update on the Kursk Collapse. Jump to 2.45 to pass his usual preliminary bloviations for the actual battlefield update.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9uj8SI8xWGc
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Mar 9 2025 21:04 utc | 77
Posted by: canuck | Mar 9 2025 20:49 utc | 74
Gotta say I agree with @Nipins, if China being outside the INF was perceived as being problematic then re-open the negotiations, broaden the scope of the treaty, bring in more nations such as China, even India and Pakistan (heck, even include Iran).
Very short-sighted to throw out, not just the baby with the bath water, but the entire bathroom. It smacks of the impatience that seems to bedevil US foreign policy, regardless of who the current White House tenant is; “We need a quick result, it doesn’t matter if it’s actually a win, we can spin as a win, but whatever, we need it quickly, we need it now.”
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 9 2025 21:10 utc | 78
"Posted by: Nipins | Mar 9 2025 20:26 utc | 72
I vehemently disagree.
Trump, obviously, considers China as the top US foe and tying the US's hands with Russia with the INF while China can progress with the tech makes no sense."
INF tried to limit the ability of NATO and Russia to blow each other to hell with intermediate range nuclear weapons. Those range weapons (< 500km?) have little application in potential USA vs China conflicts where the game is out ranging carrier aircraft range + missile range. Nor did the INF have any bearing on Chinas build out of its iCBMs tucked safely west well out of submarine tomahawk range. Tridents are allocated for Russia no extra for China and now NK freshly armed with Russian Topol M. If Trump exited INF because of China concerns the decision was even more questionable. At some point you have to stop digging a deeper hole. Chinas ICBM program alone will at some point overtake the USAs ground based ICBMs. There is no viable replacment for the aging minuteman 3 and they simply can not be upgraded to operational status anymore. I dont think even Trumps new found friendship will allow Russia to sell us their retired Topol ms but Musk will certainly appreciate the return of Russian rocket engines to space x. At some point even NK will pull ahead in ICBM capabilities Thats the reality. USA will not have land based ICBms possibly within our lifetimes. All bets go to submarines then.
Take a hard look a the AUKUS so called buildout and tell me if that effort is going to provide peer deterent.
Posted by: Nipins | Mar 9 2025 21:15 utc | 79
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Mar 9 2025 20:05 utc | 68
"Europe's surge to ukraine will start soon possibly with boots on the ground."
Only if they are suicidal. The US has said they will not support such a force in ANY way. Russia has said very clearly that non-UN forces in 404 will be classed as combatants and immediately destroyed. It should take about ten minutes.
Posted by: Jams O'Donnell | Mar 9 2025 21:16 utc | 80
DS map update:
https://deepstatemap.live/en#6/49.4324126/32.0581055
Overall, another zero day for the RFA in Ukraine.
Very good progess in Kursk, with advances in the N and NE, including the capture of Malaya Locknia and Martinyvka. (FWIW, there have been "good guy waving flag" geolocations backing up both captures.)
I'm not sure about the "tunnel" gambit. It definitely happened, with troops emerging. But there's still a lot of confusion in the laity information domain about the outcome. RFA says it worked and they're holed up and rest of the troops can supply them. UFA says they wiped them out (some photographic support, but numbers of troops were small, not whole company). As usual the first, first fanboys have one view (but no flag geolocations to support them). And the Ukrop lovers are either diminishing it, or at least not conceding it until proof (but don't have 100 dead bodies or POWs either). I'm in wait and see mode for now.
Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 9 2025 21:17 utc | 81
@Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 9 2025 21:17 utc | 81
Yeah right, Konstyantynopil (west of Ulakly) fell completing the closure of the Dachne pocket in the south. And over 2,000 Ukrainian casualties.
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Mar 9 2025 21:33 utc | 82
JD Vance has a cousin who fought in Ukraine. He doesn’t like the way the kostumed klown from keeeve was treated in the WH.
https://x.com/NOELreports/status/1898827429696684253
And hmmm. The cousin, aged 47, went to Ukraine in 2022.
That’s old to be playing war games lotto against Russian artillery…(?)
Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 9 2025 21:37 utc | 83
All bets go to submarines then.Posted by: Nipins | Mar 9 2025 21:15 utc | 79
Orbital delivery systems will become pretty cheap and very effective with sinking cost of tonnage to orbit (think Starship). They can be used with inert rods for precision targeting and kinetic effect, too.
Musk mentioned somewhere (I read it on wiki) that single Starship launches might eventually cost SpaceX as little as one million dollar. That's 200 tonnes to orbit, and even if this figure remains optimistic, it goes to show that fleets of bomber aircraft are readily outpriced, in addition to outgunned (though I have no number to give from the top of my head).
Posted by: persiflo | Mar 9 2025 21:42 utc | 84
82:
1. I suspect we will get the Konsty report soon. Especially given some geolocations on the net. The DS timing is kind of weird now, with sometimes double updates in a day.
2. I'm not sure what planet you are living in, thinking there were 2000 casualties, in a day, in that smallish locality (or even the pocket as a whole). Pics...or it didn't happen. Casualty counting is for copers...on each side. "I go by land, land, land!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhwCC53THV8
Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 9 2025 21:42 utc | 85
"broaden the scope of the treaty, bring in more nations such as China, even India and Pakistan (heck, even include Iran)."
Indias nuclear buildout exceeds AUKUS. This is directed at China Pakistan is not a real player.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPaU2l7RktM
Posted by: Nipins | Mar 9 2025 21:43 utc | 86
Posted by: persiflo | Mar 9 2025 21:42 utc | 84
space weapons are incredibly vulnerable. essentially immobile and unarmored.
Posted by: UWDude | Mar 9 2025 21:47 utc | 87
This is directed at China Pakistan is not a real player.
Posted by: Nipins | Mar 9 2025 21:43 utc | 86
doubt. Pakistan and India have a thousand times the bad blood china and india do.
Posted by: UWDude | Mar 9 2025 22:02 utc | 88
karlof1 | Mar 8 2025 21:47 utc | 63
Re: "Putin's Roundtable Discussion with Employees and Wards of the Defenders of the Fatherland Foundation"
Thanks for that Karl.
I’ve had to skip n rapid scroll through a number of the last threads, but I do look for you and a few others.. @Rythmic Slang deserves an honourable mention.
Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 9 2025 22:04 utc | 89
@ UWDude, §89:
India´s quarrel with Pakistan is over the jihadist attitude of Pakistan.
China has a similar problem in Xinjiang: jihadis encouraged by the West.
So you´re right: India & China have a common enemy: furious jihadism.
Posted by: John Marks | Mar 9 2025 22:36 utc | 90
"Orbital delivery systems will become pretty cheap and very effective with sinking cost of tonnage to orbit (think Starship). They can be used with inert rods for precision targeting and kinetic effect, too.
Musk mentioned somewhere (I read it on wiki) that single Starship launches might eventually cost SpaceX as little as one million dollar. That's 200 tonnes to orbit, and even if this figure remains optimistic, it goes to show that fleets of bomber aircraft are readily outpriced, in addition to outgunned (though I have no number to give from the top of my head).
Posted by: persiflo | Mar 9 2025 21:42 utc | 84"
Makes sense if the targeting hardware and electronics can survive rentry. Not easy but not impossible Some fins and a Garmin duck taped to a Tunsten rod aint gonna cut it. How to harden the motor controlers hmmm. Have to be a enclosure that separates after reentry. Plenty of solar power in space to keep your WMDs fully charged. . No nasty double flash when testing. Space nuts not hazelnuts. Cheap potential energy with the same providing inherent delivery capability.
Posted by: Npin | Mar 9 2025 22:39 utc | 91
AHVAAZ, a pop-up quango of the CIA, has stopped Rumania´s Calin Georgescu from his presidential candidacy.
As a right-winger likely to win, Ursula fon d´a Lyin´s Fourth Reich has pulled out all the stops and an AHVAAZ rent-a-mob is tearing up Bucharest. This is the Fourth Reich falling apart.
Georgescu would take Rumania out of NATO . . .
Posted by: John Marks | Mar 9 2025 22:40 utc | 92
Nice AI chip in charge. Whats not to like? /sarc (really needed?)
"Makes sense if the targeting hardware and electronics can survive rentry. Not easy but not impossible Some fins and a Garmin duck taped to a Tunsten rod aint gonna cut it. How to harden the motor controlers hmmm. Have to be a enclosure that separates after reentry. Plenty of solar power in space to keep your WMDs fully charged. . No nasty double flash when testing. Space nuts not hazelnuts. Cheap potential energy with the same providing inherent delivery capability.
Posted by: Npin | March 09, 2025 at 22:39 "
Posted by: Npin | Mar 9 2025 22:43 utc | 93
Let’s ask this question: what did the US gain by abandoning the INF?
Turning Carrier Battle Groups (or foreign bases) from assets into vulnerabilities doesn’t seem to be a wise move...
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 9 2025 22:46 utc | 94
Posted by: John Marks | Mar 9 2025 22:36 utc | 91
far too simplistic, and wrong.
The India-Pakistan conflict has many facets, including Hindu supremecists who do not help the feud, and "furious jihad" when speaking about the Uighers is silly, actually, the term "furious jihad", is silly.
Posted by: UWDude | Mar 9 2025 22:49 utc | 95
Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Mar 9 2025 20:05 utc | 68
Ukrainian resistance in Kursk was compromised by the need to vacate russian territory to start negotiations as demanded by Trump.
LOL! Fake news. Trump did not demand that.
Ukrainian military potential was transferred to toretsk and povrosk which undergoing Ukrainian counter offensive which have had partial success.
And another fake news.
Europe's surge to ukraine will start soon possibly with boots on the ground.
LOL! There are already "boots on the Ukrainian ground". Even one French general was killed while coming to close to the front line. And many others were killed on duty. But guess what? All such casualties are hidden from the public. The families are paid to keep quiet. More boots, that is officially, would mean that the casualties would be no more a State secret.
I would enjoy seeing those "boots on the ground". Alas the western leaders are cowards and the will not dare to send troops to fight against Russia. The consequences would be too huge for them.
Posted by: Naive | Mar 9 2025 22:50 utc | 96
"Georgescu would take Rumania out of NATO"
What they dont want to send their children to the meat grinder? The new democracy. Do overs for elections. Coming soon to a theater near you? (pun intended)
Would five eyes (now four eyes hah another pun) dare to solve the "Trump problem"?
Posted by: Npin | Mar 9 2025 22:50 utc | 97
Romania
Is enjoying its very own Euromaiden style public festivities.
Complete with police shooting protesters…
(Ironic that the Romanian flag is yellow-blue (and red).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NPrcCwAPNo
Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 9 2025 22:55 utc | 98
Roomania is no fools. The next up list is getting shorter. France and UK are far down the list. Just cook up a little Bander party install and voila! Paging Victoria Paging Victoria National endowment for Democracy aisle four. Roomania. Hoongaria. Boolgaria. Yea far down the list. And of course. They dont call it war saw for nothing.
Posted by: Npin | Mar 9 2025 23:03 utc | 99
We dont need no stinking USA intel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeE3sMveTrY
Posted by: Npin | Mar 9 2025 23:17 utc | 100
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