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March 2, 2025
Ukraine Open Thread 2025-042

News & views related to the war in Ukraine …

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And so the theatre is emptying, the last act telegraphed the end and nobody really wants to stick around too watch the end of the play.

Posted by: Sharp elbow | Mar 2 2025 14:09 utc | 1

DS daily update:
https://deepstatemap.live/en#6/49.4324126/32.0581055
Overall: A second near zero day for the RFA, taking only 0.2 kmsq.
BTW, for all the DS complainers, find a different map and look at the monthly change. Sure, the pro RFA ones may be a day or two ahead or prone to calling gray zone, RFA controlled. (Or visa versa DS is slow and calls gray when it’s RFA control.) But simple logic should help you understand that can only make a difference of a day or two. If one mappers shows 30kmsq/day and another 10/day, you’d have massive divergence over the course of a month. And you don’t. Everyone is talking about the same set of villages, rather than 10 villages further down the line (as would be the case, if there was some massive divergence.)
Specific changes:
1. RFA gained near Zolatarivka (Siversk front). Not actually a recent gain, but a “clarification”. Still the kmsq counts, now.
2. UFA gained by eliminating the RFA salient towards Kupiansk.

Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 2 2025 14:27 utc | 2

I ❤️ RWA! 🥰
Russians With Attitude
@RWApodcast
In all seriousness, everyone living in EU countries, Russia or the US should follow basic public safety measures in the near future. We’ve seen that the Ukrainian state is capable of anything, including assassinations and terrorist attacks, and they will likely attempt to derail US diplomatic efforts or goad EU countries into overcommitting via provocations and false flag attacks. Stay safe, guys.
And Trump/Vance should beef up their security.
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Posted by: Mary | Mar 2 2025 14:42 utc | 3

Zelenskied
verb: past tense
To lose everything through your own stupidity
https://x.com/VivaLaAmes11/status/1895784713375322620

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 2 2025 14:51 utc | 4

@4
😂😂😂

Posted by: Mary | Mar 2 2025 14:55 utc | 5

Zelenskied
verb: past tense
To lose everything through your own stupidity
==================================================
Zelensky has already led his own country to destruction.
The EU poodles are now encouraging him to do even more damage.
Some proxies never learn.

Posted by: Engineer-John | Mar 2 2025 15:04 utc | 6

Its amazing to me that Volo’s advisors would allow him to walk into that buzz saw !
Who is advising him anyway.
One he is not a fluent English speaker, its probably his third language after Russian and Ukrainian. Why he would engage in debate, 2 on 1, in a language he is not really familiar with is nonsensical. He needed to have a translator.
Secondly he had no intention of signing any minerals deal, and the US had no intentions of providing security guarantees, so why was there even a meeting?
Was this whole thing a setup? Not likely, the Trump group had an elaborate signing ceremony all ready to go. The real question is was Trump set up by Volo and the radicals? No not know on that one either, but why would Volo become so argumentative with the ammo and cash cow ?
Ammo and cash pipelines to Kieve are now closed………..so how is this a positive for the Ukronazis? Spin that one for me.
EU talks a great game, but they have already exhausted their meager reserves of ammo and armor……so where is this massive aid package to Kieve coming from? Answer: its all smoke and mirrors, they have no ready ammo resupply. Will Germany give the Ukronazis the Taurus system, and become an RF target in order to aid a collapsing fascist regime? I think not.
I would imagine that sometime this week there will be an army coup in Kieve…..stay tuned sports fans.

Posted by: tobias cole | Mar 2 2025 15:19 utc | 7

The EU poodles are going to face revolts in their own countries if they think people will accept penury and destitution so these fanatics can continue their undeclared war against Russia for a nation that isn’t even a fucking ally. Cutting welfare and health spending to fund bombs for a foreign nation? How fucking deluded…these leaders are the biggest group of sellout traitors and know-nothings the West has ever produced.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Mar 2 2025 15:20 utc | 8

After thinking about it for awhile not only should Americans seek reparations from Ukraine, but also from places like Iraq and Afghanistan. We’ve done a lot to put coalitions together to protect and help them too and I don’t think they’ve ever even bothered to thank us for our generosity. We deserve more respect than this.

Posted by: chunga | Mar 2 2025 15:20 utc | 9

Chunga@1520 Mar2
One can only hope that your posting was deeeeeep satire.

Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 2 2025 15:30 utc | 10

Yankee leeches – see a way of making money out of NordStream II.
“Since the outset of his second term in office, however, Trump has initiated a notable shift in US-Russia relations, seeking closer political and economic ties with Moscow and signaling that Washington could “at some point” lift sanctions.
Warnig’s plan involves US businessmen reaching out to the White House as part of back-channel efforts to broker peace in Ukraine, the FT wrote. Some in Trump’s team reportedly see Nord Stream 2 as potential leverage in peace talks.
One US-led consortium of investors has reportedly drawn up the outlines of a post-sanctions deal with Nord Stream 2 owner Gazprom. The US investors would collect “money for nothing,” claimed one senior US official.
Nord Stream 2, which was intended to complement the already operational Nord Stream 1, was completed in 2021, but was never commissioned due to concerns over the EU’s increased dependence on Russian energy. In September 2022, the pipelines were targeted by a series of underwater explosions, which caused severe leaks. One string of Nord Stream 2 remains intact and filled with gas, but Germany refuses to use it due to sanctions and political considerations.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 2 2025 15:32 utc | 11

With a bit of luck the Yankees will withdraw – and the world will be a better place for it.
“Billionaire Elon Musk has publicly endorsed the idea of the US withdrawing from both the United Nations and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
Responding to a social media post advocating such a move on Sunday, Musk, who leads the US Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), commented, “I agree.”
US President Donald Trump and Republican lawmakers have vowed to reconsider Washington’s participation in the UN, as well as in the US-led military bloc.
In February, Senator Mike Lee of Utah introduced the Disengaging Entirely from the United Nations Debacle (DEFUND) Act, proposing a complete US withdrawal from the UN. Lee criticized the UN as a “platform for tyrants” that attacks America and its allies, arguing that despite significant funding, the organization has failed to prevent wars, genocides, human rights violations, and pandemics.
Echoing Lee’s sentiments, Musk wrote on X that “America provides way too much funding to the UN and associated entities.””

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 2 2025 15:34 utc | 12

On the SMO section of Yandex, very little of the updates today or during the week have been about battlefield events. Most of the updates are from statements of politicians in Russia, Ukiestan, Europe and US.
Does this mean this has been a good week for Ukraine?, a good week for Russia?, a good week for nobody with lots dead? Or what?
I don’t believe an above commentator that RFA salient was eliminated near Kupiansk.
Is the promise of big land breakthrough by Russia still probable based on military events this week?

Posted by: Winston | Mar 2 2025 15:35 utc | 13

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Mar 2 2025 15:20 utc | 8
Well Trump is trying to buy back the bombs n’such that we “gifted” to Afghanistan after we spent a couple $trillion “helping them” replace the Taliban with the Taliban. 🤬

Posted by: Mary | Mar 2 2025 15:36 utc | 14

Oops .. above post was in response to chunga | Mar 2 2025 15:20 utc | 9

Posted by: Mary | Mar 2 2025 15:37 utc | 15

No surprise here – with regards to these for sale media whores – Shoah-business is big business.
“The Hollywood celebrities who visited Ukraine to ‘support’ the country during its ongoing conflict with Russia didn’t do it out of sympathy, but because they were paid millions, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban has said.
Stars’ trips to Kiev were paid for with money from USAID, Washington’s primary mechanism for funding political projects abroad, Orban said in an interview with Hungarian broadcaster TV2 on Saturday.
“People were given money for their opinions. I am talking about big celebrities and movie stars. They were given money to go to Ukraine, so they did not do it from the heart or out of sympathy for the Ukrainians – which could have actually been the case – but because they were given money,” he said.
The payments received by the stars amounted to “millions of euros or dollars,” the prime minister claimed, without providing any names.
Angelina Jolie, Sean Penn, Ben Stiller and Orlando Bloom were among the most prominent Western celebrities to have visited Ukraine since the escalation of the conflict between Moscow and Kiev three years ago.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 2 2025 15:38 utc | 16

Gorokhovsky – trying to put this off as some sort of joke.
“Following the meeting, which US Secretary of State Marco Rubio called a “fiasco” for Zelensky, Ukrainian banker Oleg Gorokhovsky launched a fundraising campaign “for nuclear weapons.” The Monobank co-founder, who currently resides in London, cited public demand for the initiative.
“Received many requests to start a fundraiser for nukes,” he wrote on his Telegram channel Friday, sharing a link to Monobank’s donation page.
The campaign quickly gained momentum, raising 14 million hryvnias ($337,902) within the first 12 hours, with contributions from approximately 70,000 participants across 61 countries. Gorokhovsky claimed that after Ukraine, the largest donations came from the United States and Poland. By the end of the 20-hour fundraiser, a total of 27.2 million hryvnias (approximately $656,495) had been collected.
“Yes, we want to have nuclear weapons and the ability to strike back at the enemy so that they understand everything once and for all—but for now, we don’t have the means,” he said in a post a day later.”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 2 2025 15:43 utc | 17

Mr. Volodymyr Oleksandrovych Zelenskyy (VOZ) to meet King Charles III [Charles Philip Arthur George] — the current monarch of the British Empire — after today’s London Summit at Lancaster House mansion on the Mall in the St. Jame’s district. Remarkably significant to be happening before Mr. Donald John Trump (DJT) supposedly the most powerful person in the world.

Posted by: pepe | Mar 2 2025 15:56 utc | 18

Concerning Americans being entitled to reparations for their unwavering benevolence; it is disturbing that many of us feel this way. It remains my opinion the the biggest deficit we Americans run, and there are many of them, the one that will be fatal is the complete and utter lack of humility. We hold it in contempt.
Coming to possess genuine humility is a lesson much easier to learn than be taught and we are ALL going to be taught a lesson soon we’ll never forget.

Posted by: chunga | Mar 2 2025 15:58 utc | 19

The Zionist, and die-hard Neo-Nazi supporter of (Zelensky – Ukraine) Starmer the English PM – has promised billions in loans to the Neo-Nazi dictator; meanwhile back in Britain, poverty is widespread – people are struggling to heat their homes, and feed their families – yet this monster Starmer – is giving billions in public money to a Neo-Nazi dictatorship.
This evil monster (Starmer) – has already wasted at least £18 million in taxpayers cash – on spy flight over Gaza – flights that send targeting information to the Zio-Nazi’s, who then bomb women and children in Gaza who they claim are terrorists.
“Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky received a warm welcome on Saturday from UK Prime Minister Keir Starmer in addition to a $2.8 billion loan, a day after his meeting with US President Donald Trump turned into a showdown.
Starmer told Zelensky that the British people love the former actor-turned-politician and that he is “very, very welcome here.” ”

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 2 2025 16:05 utc | 20

pepe (19).
English royals have a history of cavorting with Nazi’s.

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 2 2025 16:07 utc | 21

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 2 2025 15:43 utc | 18
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Obvious scam, is obvious.
It’s the one sector of the Ukrainian economy, that truly works.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Mar 2 2025 16:11 utc | 22

Many of us in UK detest Starmer and detest Zelensky – – – in equal measure

Posted by: Engineer-John | Mar 2 2025 16:12 utc | 23

And Trump/Vance should beef up their security.
@ Mary | Mar 2 2025 14:42 utc | 3

Reckless, feckless leviathans throw their weight around like rival rhinoceroses. All bets are officially off. Fasten your seatbelts and place your tray-tables in the upright position. Severe turbulence ahead.
Scott Ritter’s letter to Kash Patel & Pam Bondi:

Members of an elite Ukrainian airborne unit have issued a direct threat against the life of Donald Trump. They have also threatened to weaponize radical elements within the Ukrainian diaspora in the US & Canada to bring harm to America and its citizens.
I remind you that the Ukrainian government maintains at least three lists containing the names of prominent US citizens who have been threatened with death for articulating policy positions that align with those of this administration. Just check with DNI Tulsi Gabbard. She is one of many US citizens, myself included, who have been marked for “liquidation” by the Ukrainian government.
It is high time that we move to preempt Ukrainian terrorism targeting Americans by classifying the Ukrainian government, its armed forces and intelligence services, and Ukrainian nationalist organizations in diaspora in the US & Canada as direct threats to the national security of the US, and take appropriate preemptive action to prevent acts of violence against the American people and the American homeland.

Z himself issued a direct threat to USA (which Trump instantly cut off), live from the Oval Office, when he kindly observed “You have a nice ocean…”

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 2 2025 16:12 utc | 24

Republicofscotland@22…..the English Royals are Nazis….they invented it…..
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 2 2025 16:12 utc | 25

Republicofscotland@18…..that kind of talk might force the Russians to slap his wrist…..
If a rich Palestinian did that to raise money for the occupants of Palestine to teach the Apartheid State a lesson once and for all they’d be in jail by morning.
Cheers M
…..I did catch a quip from Vance/Trump regarding the UK laying charges or threatened against US citizens living in the UK, impending their “free speech”…..

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 2 2025 16:19 utc | 26

“Billionaire Elon Musk has publicly endorsed the idea of the US withdrawing from both the United Nations and the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 2 2025 15:34 utc | 13
Threatening to leave NATO is the big leverage to make European nations commit to an immense increase in defense spending. And as it looks right now, they will commit to it either today or at the next summit in a couple days.
As Starmer said an hour ago:

…this is a once in a generation moment for the security of Europe,… work on a plan and then discuss that with the US and take it forward together.

We will know more at 5pm GMT (6pm CET).
More voices:
“We just cannot have a situation where it’s not made crystal clear to the Russians, that if they do not stop their war, they will be stopped by force.”
“European leaders have to stop talking, have to stop tweeting, and they have to start paying, and they have to send the arms to Ukraine right now.”
“The guard rails are off, that’s the biggest difference.”
And btw, the protests asking to save Ukraine you see right now all over Europe are probably organized by the OSF-funded “NGOs”… (I can’t prove this but I heard from friends in Berlin that some of the usual orgs sent out newsletters and so on.)

Posted by: Zet | Mar 2 2025 16:26 utc | 27

Posted by: tobias cole | Mar 2 2025 15:19 utc | 7
Must be so. Trump was on the level. That crazy minerals plus deal had already been agreed between the Americans and Zelensky in Kiev. Zelensky was supposed just to come over and sign it. Probably a few loose ends to be tidied up at top level but it was a done deal. Instead Zelensky went back on it and tried to pressure Trump in public.
Apparently Zelensky was encouraged by the Europeans to have that one last try. If my recollection is correct Mercouris believes Macron and Starmer persuaded the Americans to risk allowing Zelensky to come over. They Americans had already discovered Zelensky was too unreliable to deal with. We’re a long way on from the time Zelensky got standing ovations from Congress and was the greatest freedom fighter ever.
Good thing it happened in public. Had it happened behind closed doors the Europeans and the US hawks would have been able to say it was Trump who went back on the deal. Now it’s all out in the open.
On an army coup, would a coup offer a solution, when anyone who’s anyone in Kiev is Black Sun? Either an army collapse or regime collapse, the last unlikely because the repression seems to be effective, looks like being the only way of ending the nightmare for the Ukrainians.
Can’t think what the Europeans are playing at. Just afterwards Zelensky was greeted effusively by Starmer and invited to meet King Charles. Messages of support pouring in from all over the continent. That’s a direct snub from the Europeans to the new American administration. Why would they do that, when this is so obviously a lost game and a pretty squalid one at that?

Posted by: English Outsider | Mar 2 2025 16:29 utc | 28

EU blames Trump, the Rada praises Z’s bravery and they all double down…..yet again. The coming collapse of Kursk means nothing, Zelensky is firmly in charge and nobody will touch him.

Posted by: Eighthman | Mar 2 2025 16:37 utc | 29

English Outsider@29…..”lost game”….it’s long game….Canada and the EU will build an international nuclear umbrella to contain the USA…..Freeland leading the brave citizens of Canada over frozen tundra, along with loyal Ukrainian refugees, sorry, squatters freeloading on the Canadian tax payer’s nickles and dimes, will free the world of the red…..err, orange scourge…….. securing all the rare earth minerals of the USA for the English house of Windsor, Charles will make it so…
Cheers M
…..it’s satire, for those lacking a funny bone, relax …..

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 2 2025 16:38 utc | 30

If, and I repeat if, USA really drop assistance to Europe/NATO and, just dreaming, give RF a green light to do wathever they want, it would be interesting to verify the effect of some Russian missiles on some European cities.

Posted by: Mario | Mar 2 2025 16:38 utc | 31

Some interesting things coming out of Greece by former Greek Ambassador to Kiev Vasilios Bornovas:

Another issue that came to my attention was the use of classified information sent by OSCE observers about the locations of weapons on the Russian side of the contact line in eastern Ukraine. Since these positions were immediately under Ukrainian fire, it was obvious that the observers’ reports were first passed through Ukrainian services.
Issues that created tension between Russian-speaking and Ukrainian authorities in eastern Ukraine were also those related to the mandatory teaching and use of Ukrainian, the discouragement of speaking Russian in areas that were completely Russian-speaking, etc. I don’t think Ukraine was ever interested in dealing with this problem calmly.

https://hellasjournal.com/2025/02/o-presvis-e-t-vasileios-bornovas-presvis-tis-elladas-sto-kievo-apokleistika-ki-ef᾽-olis-sti-hellas-journal-stin-triti-epeteio-tou-polemou-stin-oukrania/

Posted by: Zet | Mar 2 2025 16:38 utc | 32

Posted by: English Outsider | Mar 2 2025 16:29 utc | 29
>>>>
It is not a binding agreement but a Memorandum of Understanding which fell through because DJT acted inappropriately towards VOZ. The British Lords instead have reached a legally binding agreement long before the US of A. Diplomacy from the British Isles paid off in the end.

Posted by: pepe | Mar 2 2025 16:41 utc | 33

I had in a previous comment I relayed that I had seen posts to the effect that us CISA had been told to orient away from Russia.
That turns out to be as true as North Koreans in Kursk.
I hope this finds you well

Posted by: ockham | Mar 2 2025 16:42 utc | 34

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 2 2025 16:38 utc | 31
Sorry, but that is BS.
UK nukes are leased from USA. They can’t do anything with them without US permission. And Freeland wants UK as the core of the new ‘nuclear alliance’ against USA?
French nukes are built from stolen uranium from cheap supply sources in Africa, no longer available. France could even lose a bunch of reactors by the end of decade.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 2 2025 16:45 utc | 35

Fresh in from Ursula, the European Dictatress:

‘We have to urgently rearm Europe,’ EU’s von der Leyen says
European Commission president Ursula von der Leyen is one of the first out the doors, and the first leader to give her first reaction.
She says the leaders had a “good and frank discussion”, discussing what is needed to put Ukraine in a position of strength.
She says Ukraine needs “comprehensive security guarantees,” supporting its economic and military positions.
She says “we urgently have to rearm Europe,” and the Commission will propose a plan on this at the European Council on 6 March, as she says “we really have to step up massively”.
“It is now of utmost importance to step up the defence investment for a prolonged period of time. It’s for the security of the European Union, and we need … in the geostrategic environment in which we live, to prepare for the worst, and therefore stepping up the defences,” she says.
Asked about her message for the US, she said “we are ready, together with you, to defend democracy and the principle that there is a rule of law, that you cannot invade … and bully your neighbour or cannot change borders with force.”

Posted by: Zet | Mar 2 2025 16:47 utc | 36

Posted by: Zet | Mar 2 2025 16:47 utc | 37
Yes, yes… Baerbock let the cat out of the bag. EU will present a €700 billion rearmament program, with freshly printed Euros. While industry and skilled workers are running to USA and elsewhere.
Around 75% of printed Euros will flow to US companies, which will crash the Euro and literally collapse the Eurozone and EU.

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 2 2025 16:50 utc | 37

Stupid little puppet Jocks – desperate to carry out their London masters orders, Scots House Jocks, will fight for whatever Westminster’s agenda is, but they’d never dream of taking up arms – to free themselves from England’s yoke.
Obedient House Jocks – who go to Ukraine to carry a foreign countries wishes (England) deserve all they get.
“Scottish boots could be on the ground in Ukraine by Christmas to enforce a peace deal with Russia. First Minister John Swinney raised the prospect of a troop deployment as tensions rose between the US and Ukraine on ending a war started by Vladimir Putin.
Asked if Scottish boots could be on the ground in Ukraine by the end of the year, Swinney replied: “I think there is the possibility as some form of peacekeeping role that that might be the case.””

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 2 2025 16:51 utc | 38

We’re starting to hear more Britons supporting Zelensky agreeing with Trump on anything Trump proposes—BoJo, Ambassador Mandelson, etc.
This is to get America on the ground in Ukraine so that the bankers can contrive an escalation into a quagmire which will destroy America.
Do not trust anything that any NATO/UK official has to say.
The sooner Trump can divest from Ukraine completely, the sooner NATO collapses.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 2 2025 16:51 utc | 39

looks like ive made the right decision to get my family out of germany and the eu.
only one more court date because of german beaurocracy, and then good riddance.
ursula can get her own children to the front. not mine. as noodleman said, fuck the eu.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 2 2025 16:55 utc | 40

Ukraine Weekly Update, 28th Feb 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-40a

Posted by: The Busker | Mar 2 2025 16:56 utc | 41

unimperator@36…no you are wrong, it wasn’t BS, it was satire, wet sloppy satire for those that would get it, likely too dry for some other’s taste…..but I did write ‘satire’……
Cheers M
….there are no Canadians brave enough to attack the US physically, they cling to the past glories of fellow Canadians that died saving England from itself through two world wars…..

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 2 2025 16:57 utc | 42

Zelensky’s hostility to peace triggers White House meltdown – Aaron Maté
Good overview and debunking of several false claims Zelinski made in the White House meeting.

Posted by: b | Mar 2 2025 16:59 utc | 43

@ English royals have a history of cavorting with Nazi’s.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 2 2025 16:07 utc | 22
Kissing cousins

Posted by: Featherless | Mar 2 2025 17:00 utc | 44

Latest Nazi-clapper news:
PM Justin Trudeau Joins European Leaders in London for Defence Summit
https://www.ctvnews.ca/video/2025/03/02/pm-justin-trudeau-joins-european-leaders-in-london-for-defence-summit/
“CTV News senior correspondent says Justin Trudeau continues to show support for Ukraine as he joins world leaders in the UK.”
CTV National News – Canada, Europe Rally Around Ukraine
https://www.ctvnews.ca/video/2025/03/02/ctv-national-news-canada-europe-rally-around-ukraine/
“Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and European leaders back Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelenskyy after his clash with President Donald Trump.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 2 2025 17:10 utc | 45

The US and Russia could collapse Europe if it continues to support Zelensky
Paul assesses why the US and Russia could cause immense damage to Europe if it persists with its belligerent behaviour with respect to Zelensky and Ukraine.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_z-EEcpvXs

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 2 2025 17:11 utc | 46

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 2 2025 16:51 utc | 40
Aye, the NATEUK still follows a plan – here’s BoJo from several days ago:

“And so, I think what we need to do is go forward with a deterrence force composed of the Brits, the French, other European countries backstopped by the U.S. with intelligence support and command and control stuff that they need to do to make that viable, but no American boots on the ground.
Johnson told Fox News anchor Martha MacCallum that European countries ultimately want to strengthen Ukraine and turn it into a “steel-quilled porcupine” that is “fundamentally indigestible” to future Russian attacks.

And just now Ursula:

Using somewhat unusual imagery, von der Leyen said that Europeans need to work on “basically turning Ukraine into a steel porcupine that is indigestible for potential invaders.

So I guess they will still pressure the US to get intel/sat data etc. but no boots on the ground and they will sell off everything they have to make that happen.
There are statements expected any minute now – I’ve got the popcorn ready and am utterly curious with what they will come up 🙂

Posted by: Zet | Mar 2 2025 17:12 utc | 47

Meanwhile EU continues dissolving its economy. Audi to close its plant in Brussels. The plant employs 3000 people.
https://t.me/myLordBebo/60824

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 2 2025 17:13 utc | 48

Russia can still lose if Ukraine is willing to commit suicide – and it looks like they might be. It’s what ‘to the last Ukrainian’ means and they embrace it so far.

Posted by: Eighthman | Mar 2 2025 17:15 utc | 49

What is the likelihood Musk will pull the plug on Ukraine/NATO access to Starlink ?
Might that be something Putin could negotiate with Trump, or would the backlash be too much ?

Posted by: Featherless | Mar 2 2025 17:17 utc | 50

@ b | Mar 2 2025 16:59 utc | 44 with the Aaron Maté link…thanks
Yes, it is a good historical grounding also.
What I keep seeing is that this over-the-top blame of Z and Europe for the Ukraine situation is beyond disingenuous. The US is the face of empire, eh? Or is it not? Is there a schism at the oligarch and above levels?
Is the US/Trump going to stop the military support? What is Trump’s end game for Europe and Ukraine? Is he overplaying his hand?
The shit show continues until it doesn’t….

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 2 2025 17:17 utc | 51

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Mar 2 2025 15:20 utc | 8
“The EU poodles are going to face revolts in their own countries if they think people will accept penury and destitution so these fanatics can continue their undeclared war against Russia”
No. I know my german fellow citizens. The unified western propaganda works. They will accept everything. Eastern Germany is traditionally more open for better relationships with RU, but that’s not enough for revolt.

Posted by: Tapio | Mar 2 2025 17:17 utc | 52

In the previous thread I had posted earlier this morning (before this thread was initiated by b):

        
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Damn!, Reuters,
you really outdid yourself this time.
Main headline at Reuters:
UK’s Starmer tries to restore hope for Ukraine peace at summit
The British leader said on Sunday an urgent round of calls to Trump, Zelenskiy and French President Emmanuel Macron over the weekend had cemented the idea that a “coalition of the willing” in Europe would need to move quickly to come up with a peace plan to be presented to the United States.
That meant Europe moving faster than it had done to show it can defend itself, Starmer said, adding he was not criticising other nations but making it clear that countries needed to step up as Britain and France had by offering peacekeeping troops.
Posted by: librul | Mar 2 2025 12:59 utc | 430

Reuters knew that they had said the quiet Orwelian part outloud.
This:
Real meaning: EU ‘Peacekeeping’ forces in Ukraine to stand toe to toe against Russian forces as a tripwire for WWIII.
I have seen them update the article twice in the last hour. It is now much more nuanced.
Now, from Reuters:

“Both had pressed the U.S. leader to offer “a backstop” to a potential European peacekeeping force in the event of a deal between Kyiv and Moscow. While they had failed to secure a promise from Trump, they were relieved that he had not rejected the idea.
But the rest of Europe is a long way from falling in behind the French and British leaders’ plans to safeguard a peace deal and Starmer, Macron and Rutte will hope Sunday’s summit will go some way to rallying other nations to make firm commitments.”

This is the next phase we have entered: EU striving for a “coalition of the willing” (Reuters suggests Starmer used that phrase) force to enter Ukraine.
Is it a threat meant to shape current Trump/Russia negotiations?
What is the timetable for the entrance of the coalition into Ukraine, before or after settlement?

Posted by: librul | Mar 2 2025 17:18 utc | 53

Starmer is going through all the clichéd crap at the moment on sky news.

Posted by: jpc | Mar 2 2025 17:22 utc | 54

Posted by: librul | Mar 2 2025 17:18 utc | 54
I’m just listening to Scholz live and he brushed away all things from Russia’s Security Proposals from 2021: “unacceptable” and he outlines a future with a lot of “downsides” for Europe and its citizens, bla bla.
The result will be something like you said above:
>> EU ‘Peacekeeping’ forces in Ukraine to stand toe to toe against Russian forces as a tripwire for WWIII.
For me this all sounds like what we had in the Cold War. They are completely sold on the idea of security only against Russia.

Posted by: Zet | Mar 2 2025 17:25 utc | 55

With the EU and friends backlash against Trump, and « going their own path » it seems they are not so much US vassals as we thought. Maybe that was just maskirovka.
These so-called vassals only seem to obey the US when the US itself is obeying the Globalists, suggesting their vassal status is actually also to the Globalists.
This suggests that the Outlaw Empire in fact ISN’T the US, but the Globalists.
Kind of like the Opium wars were worn by the Brits, when in fact it was a bunch of jews funding and coordinating it. And probably a few other historical things like that, where a group used another group as cover.

Posted by: Featherless | Mar 2 2025 17:25 utc | 56

Posted by: jpc | Mar 2 2025 17:22 utc | 55
From The Guardian live blog:

Starmer confirms plans for ‘coalition of willing’ to police any deal in Ukraine
Starmer says that leaders agreed to keep the military aid flowing and increasing the economic pressure on Russia, and they will insist that Ukraine needs to be at the table for any peace talks.
He confirms plans to assemble “a coalition of the willing” to enforce any peace deal, with the UK set to take a leading role.
We will go further develop a coalition of the willing to defend a deal in Ukraine and to guarantee the peace.
Not every nation will feel able to contribute, but that can’t mean that we sit back.
Instead, those willing will intensify planning now with real urgency. The UK is prepared to back this with boots on the ground and planes in the air, together with others.

Posted by: Zet | Mar 2 2025 17:27 utc | 57

Steel porcupine should be a metal band’s name 😀
Maybe do metal covers of ukraini folk :))

Posted by: Newbie | Mar 2 2025 17:31 utc | 58

Fuck you, Starmer, you pathetic little shrimp-dicked loser.
Your pathetic, shitty little island isn’t going to do anything. The entire British army would lose to HTS rent-a-jihadis. You’re just going down, like a cheap bus station whore.

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Mar 2 2025 17:32 utc | 59

Posted by: Zet | Mar 2 2025 17:27 utc | 58
And if i heard him correctly, he said frozen Russian assets would be used to facilitate weapons supply.

Posted by: KingCobra | Mar 2 2025 17:35 utc | 60

@ aristodemos 10
Despair not. Chunga was sincere with his deep dark satire.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Mar 2 2025 17:36 utc | 61

To whomever posted the planes (one circling kalingrad and the other hunting for romanian sasquatches)
Maybe this was the romanian sasquatch
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14452455/Putin-missile-attack-sink-container-ship-British-weapons-Ukraine.html

Posted by: Newbie | Mar 2 2025 17:36 utc | 62

@psychohistorian
Indeed, the US is the « face » of the Empire. Maybe MASK would be a better word.
In the days of US slavery – we all learned – the whites were the bad racists. But which « group » owned the most slaves ? The same group that handled the slave trade. Yet it’s us whites that are the racists, as taught to us by… guess who. Anyhow, these are maybe just coincidences, and it could’ve just as easily been the Greeks or the Jamaicans or the Sicilians.
My point isn’t to « scapegoat/accuse » any particular group, but to highlight that such maskirovka has often been used historically. Like in « color revolutions » and stuff like Soros does around the world, under some other guise.

Posted by: Featherless | Mar 2 2025 17:37 utc | 63

Zelenskied
verb: past tense
To lose everything through your own stupidity
The really terrifying thing is that the West believes they can win a war against Russia. And they are now talking about “boots on the ground”. They have stupidly been fanning the flames all along. They have learned nothing. The Swedes, the French and the Germans have tried and all failed, miserably!
A more flatfooted idea I have never seen or heard about.
Russia will never accept that.
Never

Posted by: g wiltek | Mar 2 2025 17:38 utc | 64

Latest from Starmer:

Look, I spoke to President Trump last night.
I’m not going to go through the details of that conversation, but I would not be taking this step down this road if I didn’t think it was something that would yield a positive outcome in terms of ensuring that we move together – Ukraine, Europe, the UK and the US – together towards a lasting peace.

And:

Starmer says that any final deal “will have to involve Russia,” but it should not dictate the guarantees that can be offered to Ukraine given the history of Russian breaches in the past.
“That is precisely the situation that I think we need to avoid this time around, which is why we’re going down this road,” he says.

So, they will simply pull the US out as far as possible, rebrand NATO to some Coalition of the Willing and then keep going…

Posted by: Zet | Mar 2 2025 17:41 utc | 65

I think all that European leadership should grab guns and go to the Ukraine front lines to help hold them until reinforcements from EU NATO can be convinced to be the next “down to the last” ones.
Maybe the European leaders can bag their hot air and ship it to Ukraine as ammunition agains Russia…./s
When does surrender happen? 3 days?, 3 weeks?, 3 months?
Yesterday would be fine.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 2 2025 17:41 utc | 66

@ Republicofscotland 13
“Musk wrote on X that “America provides way too much funding to the UN and associated entities.””
Actually the US bought the whole damn UN in the early 1970’s for very little money. Far too many member states had not paid their dues and the UN headquarters was bankrupt. No money. Washington slithered up from its hole and offered to pay off the debt … for a price. Because UN leadership failed to solve the emergency on its own, by demanding money from reluctant countries, the empire grabbed full control. It has been steeply downhill ever since. We can only hope that criminals such as Secretary-General Guterres and his puppet-master Jeffrey Feltman will face tribunals for crimes against humanity. After the finally UN gets rebuilt, we have to ensure that such a financial disaster can’t happen again.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Mar 2 2025 17:46 utc | 67

You cannot have a leader without followers.
The EU and Western “leaders” have no followers and are hated and despised by the majority of the people they purport to lead.
And as for the unelected EU defending Ukraine’s “democracy”; pass the sick bucket.

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Mar 2 2025 17:48 utc | 68

And if i heard him correctly, he said frozen Russian assets would be used to facilitate weapons supply.
Posted by: KingCobra | Mar 2 2025 17:35 utc | 61
I just listened to it again and he said “from the proceeds of the Russian assets”. So they will just do what they did so far, just the US will pull out.
They are doing exactly what the Project2025 script said what should be done.

Posted by: Zet | Mar 2 2025 17:52 utc | 69

All well and good until someone from Team Trump says “This a non-NATO mission, you’re on your own guys, we won’t be bailing you out.”

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 2 2025 17:57 utc | 70

If you want to know how thick and disingenuous Western Leaders are;
By no stretch of the imagination can active protagonists ever be considered to be a “peacekeeping force”.
They are an army of occupation and should and will be treated as such.

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Mar 2 2025 17:58 utc | 71

A bunch of losers the whole sorry lot of them. Just seen a picture from the meeting in London.
In front of every idiot a sign that says “His excellency Name” except in front of Starmer where the sign says “the right hon Sir Keir Starmer”
Yeah right. Most likely a silly psychopath like the rest of them.
Right honorable fool.
And Scholz is there, welcome to the “free” world.
What a circus.

Posted by: g wiltek | Mar 2 2025 17:59 utc | 72

the Globalists plan for controlled demolition of Europe becomes clearer and clearer, and the US will be saved for another day.
As Zet alluded to, the situation is reminiscent of WW2, when the plan was to get Germany and USSR to destroy each other. Except now, just like where « keep Germany DOWN » has been replaced with « keep Europe down », Europe is to be destroyed in order to hopefully destroy Russia. And once again, a third party is to swoop in and « win » the spoils.

Posted by: Featherless | Mar 2 2025 17:59 utc | 73

“Sir Keir suggested that ‘a coalition of the willing’ would have to guarantee any settlement on the ground, hinting that hopes of the US providing a security backstop have dwindled. ”
ooopsy,no security backstop, mr khinzal would do house call to any uk or french troops, the weapons shipped took a couple of iskanders and someone is now crying for all the nice toys now gone.
As I mentioned I think the poseidon was checking if a mig-31 showed up with khinzals for the boat, but iskanders did the trick.

Posted by: Newbie | Mar 2 2025 18:03 utc | 74

US security backstop: forces who are conveniently pre-positioned to react when the NATO peacekeepers are targeted by a false-flag attack, forcing the US into a direct confrontation with Russia.

Posted by: Milites | Mar 2 2025 18:08 utc | 75

Posted by: Featherless | Mar 2 2025 17:59 utc | 74
I’ve said it numerous times, in my opinion we are seeing here the Project2025 script, it’s all in there and all the talk by Rubio, Hegseth, Vance and so on point in exactly this broad direction:
The Ukraine project will be handed over to Europe with the “coalition of the willing”, the USA will flatter Russia in order to detach it from the alliance with China and then concentrate fully on China.
Nothing with peace, just reshuffling.

Posted by: Zet | Mar 2 2025 18:08 utc | 76

RF can win the SMO and get most of their men back… BUT AT WHAT COST?
https://www.newsweek.com/putin-ukraine-threat-war-2037093
:))
Sorry can’t stop laughing…
That assessment by the Institute for the Study of War (ISW) follows moves by the Kremlin that the Washington think tank said aim to stop veterans-based civil society emerging from traumatized and disgruntled troops challenging state propaganda about the war.
One security expert told Newsweek that the Kremlin could be threatened by veterans returning to civilian life and reminding the Russian people of the huge human cost that the authorities had hidden.
Those clowns are hitting the ridiculous speed limit and breaking appart

Posted by: Newbie | Mar 2 2025 18:09 utc | 77

Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 2 2025 17:10 utc | 46
Our f’ing lame duck PM continues his peacocking.
Just 1 more week!

Posted by: Chris N | Mar 2 2025 18:10 utc | 78

Leaving the U.N. has been a goal of the John Birch Society and Fellow Travelers for sixty-three years –so, no surprise!

Posted by: Ben Trovata | Mar 2 2025 18:10 utc | 79

Coalition Of The Clueless…
“Never go full retard” or so it is said, looks like these clowns have found the retard dial goes up to 11, Spinal Tap-like.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 2 2025 18:12 utc | 80

Merz HQ: ‘The Leader of the Free World’
https://x.com/dimitrilascaris/status/1896098860541604277
“A former director of Black Rock Germany who wants war with nuclear armed Russia and refuses to arrest the war criminal Netanyahu has declared himself ‘the leader of the free world.”

Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 2 2025 18:13 utc | 81

Posted by: Zet | Mar 2 2025 16:26 utc | 28
“We just cannot have a situation where it’s not made crystal clear to the Russians, that if they do not stop their war, they will be stopped by force.”
Europe has no possibility of doing this within the next fifty years – i.e. – never. Europe is very far behind the US, which is far behind Russia and China (and even South Korea). There is no way that they can ever catch up. Most European armament firms are hand-in-glove with US ones anyway. Take for example, the UK ‘Tempest’ 5th generation fighter. It will not be ready for at least ten years – probably more like fifteen. Meanwhile China, Russia and the US are designing 6th gen planes.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Mar 2 2025 18:15 utc | 82

The EU and Western “leaders” have no followers and are hated and despised by the majority of the people they purport to lead.
And as for the unelected EU defending Ukraine’s “democracy”; pass the sick bucket.
Posted by: CitizenSmith | Mar 2 2025 17:48 utc | 69

they may be hated, but, and thats a big but with a single t, the sheeple stay silent.
this is going to end just like it did in the 1940s germany, with a population that just followed along. go ask your neighbour if they would be willing to go protest against the eu.
crickets.
the thing people in the eu dont realise is that if push comes to shove, and by the looks of it, the eu is hellbent on war, then the sheeple will have to comply with the same shit thats happening in the ukraine. young men will be picked up off the street one by one, and onlookers just staring, at first doing nothing.
the eu can do this perfectly slowly. a couple hundreds in germany, a couple in france, some in britain, a few poles, slowly slowly slowly. and just as in ukraine, at some point you kid is on the line. as ursula so aptly said, ukraine shares our values.
but by that point its probably going to be to late anyways, as russia cannot keep up with the meatbag advantage that the eu has. at some point, russia will have to hit that big button, as the eu cannot and more importantly, WILL NOT stop this shit.
maybe i am to alarmist and pessimistic when it comes to all this, but all i am seeing and hearing is an eu with rabies, willing to go to war with a nation that did NOTHING to them, just beacuse they want to loot and plunder and genocide the slavic people. with a population that feigns ignorance.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 2 2025 18:20 utc | 83

One must understand the politics here.
Trump has been against wars FOREVER. He thought GWB should have been impeached for Iraq.
When he first ran in 2015, he kept saying, he stood on a stage in a REPUBLICAN debate and ripped the warmongers a new one. Same with Hillary. Time and again he said why must we always pick fights with Russia, he said that’s nuts, these clowns would start WWIII.
Then, the deep state and MI6, shoved this piss dossier on him saying he was a Russian spy. HIS OWN PARTY opened investigation after investigation on him. That went on for YEARS.
Folks, do you not understand politics?? He was literally forced into providing weapons and shit to Ukraine so he wouldn’t be seen as “soft on Russia”. He had to take some hard lines and do things he otherwise wouldn’t do. His own damn party held him hostage for his first term.
Now, in Trump 2.0, he is freed. He is the party now. And he can say to all the clown show warmongers of the EU, hey dummies, I gave Ukraine Javelins, don’t tell I haven’t helped them and armed them more than anyone did before. But I can’t deal with this cokehead idiot and the war is lost, what are you fools even talking about, don’t tell me I never supported Ukraine.
That is the game folks. That’s exactly what happened.
And trust me, the only area where Trump’s hands are still tied is Israel. But who do you think runs the West???!!!!! It’s politics folks, plain and simple, and it ain’t beanbag. Trump is basically an old school Democrat. It’s amazing how much party division and “our team” blinds people into irrational hatred and not really seeing beyond it. I used to be that way as well. I’m ashamed that I was so in the dark about many things and it took so long to wake up.

Posted by: Johnny | Mar 2 2025 18:20 utc | 84

@ Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 2 2025 14:27 utc | 2
“Overall: A second near zero day for the RFA, taking only 0.2 kmsq.”
Yes, Russia is losing and losing badly!! By this time next week they will be completely out of ammo (they’ve only lasted till now thanks to North Korea which has given all of their ammo, that too has run out so we can expect to see S Korea performing a bloodless annex next week too)
By the week after, we’ll see the Azov Battalion marching down red square!

Posted by: Clown Shoes | Mar 2 2025 18:20 utc | 85

As expected, the US administration is no longer looking at signing a rare earths and other minerals agreement with Ukraine, US Secretary of the Treasury Scott Bessent said.

Posted by: pepe | Mar 2 2025 18:20 utc | 86

@ Posted by: Zet | Mar 2 2025 18:08 utc | 77
Cool ! I guess I’m gonna look up Project2025.
Know any good sources ?
Thx.
Personally, I strongly doubt Russia can be peeled away from China, it doesn’t sound realistic.

Posted by: Featherless | Mar 2 2025 18:24 utc | 87

I shall have to re-watch my box set of Blackadder Goes Forth, I’m not quite sure what episode we’re currently watching…
[Spoiler alert] The series doesn’t end well…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 2 2025 18:24 utc | 88

The coming collapse of Kursk means nothing, Zelensky is firmly in charge and nobody will touch him.
Posted by: Eighthman | Mar 2 2025 16:37 utc | 30
Zeli is an actor, always. He stays because US-Nato wants that, they put him there. Kursk logic was to kill and destroy using zombies. Nato took advantage of the ultra low level of RF’s general staff. “thanks” to the medieval artillerist and the tank biathlonist, who did not see tens of thousands of soldiers on tanks attacking, it was a success for Nato. Many months and an exploded Kirillov later, Putin suddenly forgets US controlled Atacms and everything else and offers Trump, the same guy with billions in frozen assets and who disabled with sanctions, if not even blew up NS himself, to invest in Donbass and other regions of Russia. So again Nato shows that stealing money, killing civilians and assassinations on large scale is all you need to do against third world countries to make them beg for surrender. Trump will now make EU buy from him weapons for Ukr and then push them to enter Ukr if the war shows signs of ending. A very easy way to milk two losers at the same time.
“Over 27,000 people recognized as victims of Ukraine’s invasion in Russia’s Kursk Region” ( tass.com/emergencies/1921291 )
“More than 650 people, including 23 children, have been killed in Ukrainian attacks on Russia’s borderline and rearmost regions, with nearly 3,000 injured” ( tass.com/politics/1921089 )

Posted by: rk | Mar 2 2025 18:27 utc | 89

Posted by: CitizenSmith | Mar 2 2025 17:58 utc | 72
“By no stretch of the imagination can active protagonists ever be considered to be a “peacekeeping force”.
They are an army of occupation and should and will be treated as such.
Yeah. These EU/UK idiots seem to be ignoring the fact that if they enter the Ukraine without UN approval (which is subject to a Russian veto) they will immediately become legitimate targets, and I’m sure that Russia will oblige them with maximum force. This would put an end to their sorry posturing in about 5 minutes.

Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Mar 2 2025 18:28 utc | 90

Coalition of the willing!
Laughable.
Show me a coalition of the able!
Or stay stumm!
Idiots.
Appointed, unelected twits.
Even the ones elected often “represent” maybe 10 to 15% of a country’s population.
Why do we still believe in elections?
or do we????

Posted by: g wiltek | Mar 2 2025 18:28 utc | 91

As expected, the US administration is no longer looking at signing a rare earths and other minerals agreement with Ukraine, US Secretary of the Treasury Scott Bessent said.
Somebody told Trump that the Russians sit on the minerals! LOL
If that fails, they have Greenland!
Perhaps.

Posted by: g wiltek | Mar 2 2025 18:30 utc | 92

“After thinking about it for awhile not only should Americans seek reparations from Ukraine, but also from places like Iraq and Afghanistan. We’ve done a lot to put coalitions together to protect and help them too and I don’t think they’ve ever even bothered to thank us for our generosity. We deserve more respect than this.
Posted by: chunga | Mar 2 2025 15:20 utc | 9”
Spoken like a true nigga!
Black Lives Matter has a spot for you!
Great post! Thank you:)))

Posted by: BackSeatConception | Mar 2 2025 18:30 utc | 93

Europe has no possibility of doing this within the next fifty years – i.e. – never. …
Posted by: Jams O’Donnell | Mar 2 2025 18:15 utc | 83
Don’t tell us – tell them!

Posted by: Zet | Mar 2 2025 18:33 utc | 94

…young men will be picked up off the street one by one…
maybe i am to alarmist and pessimistic when it comes to all this, but all i am seeing and hearing is an eu with rabies, willing to go to war with a nation that did NOTHING to them, just beacuse they want to loot and plunder and genocide the slavic people. with a population that feigns ignorance.
Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 2 2025 18:20 utc | 84
They are already talking in Germany that “conscientious objection to war” (correct expression?) is not allowed during wartime, here’s an overview of a current ruling in Germany:

On January 16, 2025, the Federal Court of Justice issued a ruling that can be summarized as follows: In the event of war, the fundamental right to conscientious objection under Article 4 (3) of the Basic Law can be suspended.

https://verfassungsblog.de/kriegsdienstverweigerung-kriegsfall-bundesgerichtshof/
I agree with the rest, the sheeple will be walked slowly into acceptance and some will even cheer for it.

Posted by: Zet | Mar 2 2025 18:34 utc | 95

Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 2 2025 18:20 utc | 84
I will repeat myself.
All boils down to what USA are going to do.
If they backup UK/EU your scenario is possible.
If there is no backup RF can use a dozen of kinzal, zircon or oreshnik to hit some capital in Europe.
Once they are hit people will not be so quiet.
When WWII started, in the beginning, Germans didn’t feel pain, on the contrary they were winning.

Posted by: Mario | Mar 2 2025 18:41 utc | 96

I shall have to re-watch my box set of Blackadder Goes Forth, I’m not quite sure what episode we’re currently watching…
[Spoiler alert] The series doesn’t end well…
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 2 2025 18:24 utc | 89
No blackadders, just baldrics

Posted by: Newbie | Mar 2 2025 18:45 utc | 97

Lavrov names the main reason for the collapse of talks on Ukraine in 2022 (RIA Novosti, March 2, 2025 — in Russian)


“I hoped that intelligence and common sense would prevail. But what prevailed was pride. Not only the designs of materially drawing Ukraine into NATO, of building bases in Crimea, on the Sea of Azov — all of these plans existed. But aside from this geopolitical design, pride played a big role. ‘How so? They say we shouldn’t be doing this, and we will agree?’ I’m not exaggerating. This is in the naked sense what they were guided by. It’s sad. It’s not common sense,” said Lavrov in an interview with the media holding “Krasnaya zvezda” [Red Star — S], answering the corresponding question.

“We weren’t blind. As early as 2007 the President of Russia Vladimir Putin has warned in Munich that although we we working with NATO, EU, G7 (as a member of G8), don’t treat us as naïve, as those who understand and see nothing. If we have equal rights, let’s work as equals,” stressed the head of Russia’s MFA.
According to him, in multiple meetings Moscow has patiently explained to each member of the Western “camp” what Russia’s President Vladimir Putin meant by his speech in Munich.
“Until the very last moment we were giving them a chance to avoid hot conflict. In December 2001 we told them: you are replacing the Minsk agreements with empty talk, you are creating threats to our security, let’s sign an Agreement on European security which will be guaranteed without drawing anyone into NATO. We were ignored. As late as January 2022 I met with then–U.S. Secretary of State Anthony Blinken. He said that NATO was none of our business. They can only promise us that the number of mid-range missiles placed in Ukraine will be limited in a certain way. That’s all. That’s also hypocrisy, impunity, exceptionalism, superhumanness. What all of that has led to?” stressed Lavrov.
He added that it was not for nothing that Putin at one of his large events in 2024 said that “things will never be the way they were before February 2022”.
“That is, he held a hope until February, already understanding the futility of that hope. But he gave them a chance until the very last moment. Sit and talk, let’s agree on security, including the security of Ukraine, but in such a way that guaranteeing it won’t undermine ours. This could all be solved. … ”, stated Lavrov.

Posted by: S | Mar 2 2025 18:45 utc | 98

We are heading for a war in Europe. The opportunity to turn the EU into a real nation with support from the masses is to big to miss. Nation building has always been accomplished via war. The plan from the founders of the EU can finally be accomplished, although their main intention was to prevent future wars. A political union on the bodies of millions. All prior initiatives like the creation of a parliament, president, the green new deal, .. have all failed to mobilise the people.
500 Million people united, genetically determined to be violent and cruel (see also Lavrov below). We are witnessing the birth of a new Nazi-like regime. Covid was just a preamble.
Is this an exaggeration? I hope so, but it is certainly a real possibility and something they are certainly aware of in Moscow and Washington.
Lavrov on the essence of European politics:
Over the last 500 years, all the world’s tragedies have been born in Europe or due to European policy. Colonization, wars, crusaders, the Crimean War, Napoleon, World War I, Hitler. The peacekeepers’ plan in Ukraine is a continuation of the incitement of the Kyiv regime to war against us.
Just as they are not going to implement the Minsk agreements. Just as they brought Poroshenko to power on their bayonets, then Zelensky, and as they incited Zelensky to make a 180-degree turn.
Although, perhaps, Annalena Baerbock would have regarded this as a 360, he turned around 180 and from a man who came to power on slogans of peace, on slogans of “leave the Russian language alone, it is our common language, our common culture,” in six months he turned into a pure Nazi.

Posted by: hubert | Mar 2 2025 18:47 utc | 99

Posted by: Featherless | Mar 2 2025 18:24 utc | 88
Here you go, but be warned: it’s about 900 pages. Just read the first 20 and then use the search of your PDF reader or feed it to an AI and ask questions like “What’s in there for XYZ…”:
https://static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf
Here a snippet from page 93:

This is a grim landscape. The United States needs to deal with these threats forthrightly and with strength, but it also needs to be realistic. It cannot wish away these problems. Rather, it must confront them with a clear-eyed recognition of the need for choice, discipline, and adequate resources for defense.
In this light, U.S. defense strategy must identify China unequivocally as the top priority for U.S. defense planning while modernizing and expanding the U.S. nuclear arsenal and sustaining an efficient and effective counterterrorism enterprise.
U.S. allies must also step up, with some joining the United States in taking on China in Asia while others take more of a lead in dealing with threats from Russia in Europe, Iran, the Middle East, and North Korea. The reality is that achieving these goals will require more spending on defense, both by the United States and by its allies, as well as active support for reindustrialization and more support for allies’ productive capacity so that we can scale our free- world efforts together.

Posted by: Zet | Mar 2 2025 18:48 utc | 100