Trump's Rewritten 'Deal' With Ukraine Is Imposed Indentured Servitude
The Trump administration wants to press Ukraine into infinite indentured servitude for payments and weapons previously delivered by the Biden administration with no conditions attached to them.
Hedge fund mogul and U.S. Secretary of the Treasury Scott Bessent has (re-)written the 'mineral deal':
U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said on Wednesday Ukraine may sign an economic deal next week ...
"We have passed along a completed document for the economic partnership (that) is currently being reviewed by Ukrainians, and we hope to go to full discussions and perhaps even get signatures next week," Bessent said.Trump said on Monday he expects a U.S.-Ukraine revenue-sharing agreement on Ukrainian critical minerals to be signed soon.
The (former) Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelenski acknowledged the arrival of the agreement (machine translation):
President Volodymyr Zelensky said that the United States offered Ukraine a new version of the agreement on minerals . During the press conference , he stressed that the issue of Ukrainian nuclear power plants is not in it."This is a big full deal for the American side, from the steps that were taken earlier. A framework agreement, you remember, and after the framework agreement, the full agreement is developed. Now the American side has offered our side a big deal at once, their vision," Zelensky said.
The deal, see below, is anything but an 'offer'.
Zelenski should have signed the earlier 'framework agreement'. It would have allowed to later stall on the implementation. Now he will be pressed to sign on to the details.
The new 'big deal at once' is a 'horror' for Ukraine (machine translation):
A new version of the agreement on minerals between Ukraine and the United States, in which, as reported by ZN.UA, now the American side wants control not only over the extraction of rare earth metals, but all the minerals of Ukraine and the infrastructure associated with their extraction, provides for unlimited US control over Ukrainian resursans and with the right of veto of the Americans on their extraction by Ukraine. At the same time, the United States does not offer any security guarantees, and such a monopoly should be a "payment" for the already provided US assistance to Ukraine, said Yaroslav Zheleznyak, a People's Deputy of Ukraine."I received this document from our officials yesterday.This is not the final document. And I hope the Ukrainian side will demand and achieve significant changes to it. But the text that I saw is straight horror. All 18 sections ... this is no longer a framework memorandum of intent (which was before the scandalous meeting in the Oval Office). This is a very big and very clear deal. And it is not in our direction," he wrote in his Telegram.
The legal text has 60(!) pages. Its main points, according to Zheleznyak, are these (machine translation):
- The Fund is managed by five people, three of whom are from the United States and will have full veto power;
- We are talking about all minerals, including oil, gas and undeveloped deposits throughout Ukraine;
- we are talking about mining by both public and private campaigns;
- the Fund's money will be immediately converted into foreign currency and withdrawn abroad. If suddenly, for some reason, something did not reach the Ukrainian side, Ukraine pays extra;
- US contribution - assistance already provided to us from 2022 (according to the Kiel Institute, US assistance to Ukraine in 2022-2024 is estimated at $ 119.7 billion)
- The United States can choose to make a profit. At the same time, they will receive "royalties" from the Fund first (and then Ukraine) +4%.
- The agreement will be valid indefinitely
- Changes to the agreement or its completion are only possible with the permission of the United States;
- US priority right to all new infrastructure projects and veto the sale of resources to other countries.
This 'deal' is pure extortion and robbery. It would bind Ukraine indefinitely. It would also discourage any investment in any natural deposits in Ukraine. There is no chance that any such deal will be ratified by the Ukrainian parliament.
Why wonders then: Why does the Trump administration even bother?
Posted by b on March 27, 2025 at 15:35 UTC | Permalink
next page »One should not get one's knickers in a twist. This is merely negotiation. It is a way of showing Zelensky and his in-crowd that striking a realistic peace settlement with Russia may be a better option than fighting on -- and of reminding the EuroScum how big are the boots they will need to fill if they want to pursue proxy war with Russia but without the US.
Posted by: Gavin Longmuir | Mar 27 2025 15:49 utc | 3
i guess late stage capitalism / ongoing colonialism - works this way...
that is one thing to love about trump.. he is very brazen, if nothing else.. all the syhophants aligned with him must be rubbing their hands in glee over this latest development... a bunch of ''blackrock'' wannabes, lol..
thanks b!
Posted by: james | Mar 27 2025 15:51 utc | 4
The legal text has 60(!) pages. Its main points, according to Zheleznyak, are these (machine translation):
The Fund is managed by five people, three of whom are from the United States and will have full veto power;
Posted by b on March 27, 2025 at 15:35 UTC | Permalink
Five Jews, you mean.
Well, ok, maybe a token retarded goy.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 27 2025 15:51 utc | 5
Just let the Russians in, and you will be much better off.
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 27 2025 15:52 utc | 6
Even unconditional surrender to Russia would be a less awful outcome for Ukraine, at this point.
If this isn't merely fantasy plunder by Trump but there's some reasoning behind it, it might be to push Ukraine to make direct concessions to Russia by offering worse alternatives. But I'm well aware that this means Trump would be able to do at least 2D chess.
Posted by: Clueless Joe | Mar 27 2025 15:54 utc | 7
Thanks for the posting b
The situation seems to be getting more complex but more on the US/EU side than Russia that just keeps moving forward with the SMO.
I think all this deal BS with the US becomes vapor when Russia dissolves what portions of Ukraine it does not absorb into adjoining countries......to the winner goes the spoils, not the loser.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 27 2025 15:55 utc | 8
no spoils for the uk and europe?? well no wonder they are unhappy with trump, lol...
Posted by: james | Mar 27 2025 16:00 utc | 9
Perhaps Ukrainians will finally awaken to the fact that the Outlaw US Empire has waged war on their nation from the outset and is the actual enemy along with the Nazis it promoted to the enemy within. I wonder how Russia will view this grand attempt at theft. It certainly confirms the Empire's continuing predatory nature, that it continues trying to enrich itself at the expense of others.
Ukraine is well on its way to becoming a US territory.
Posted by: Jim Phillips | Mar 27 2025 16:02 utc | 11
Negative or positive, this is the, 'You broke it, you own it!' What is Trump thinking?
Since this operation will ran by American Corporations, there will be little to no accountability. Another fleece of the general population.
Also, why do I smell a big screw you Mr. Keir Starmer?
Just a question for the bar, does anyone here want to go to work in Ukraine with a bunch of pissed-off Nazis in the shadows?
Posted by: MRDMK | Mar 27 2025 16:04 utc | 12
LOL, this is a warning to the idiots in Keiv that every day they persist in their stupidity everything will get worse for them. Make peace or have the flesh stripped from your bones.
Posted by: Figleaf23 | Mar 27 2025 16:07 utc | 13
The agreement ['in principle'] shall require parliamentary approval in Ukraine which will never pass in its current form without Outlaw US of A's guarantees.
The Trump administration is trapped.
The 100-years legally-binding agreement between Ukraine and the British Empire shall rule over any future agreement.
The Outlaw US of A shall not get the minerals - including rare earths - or profits from their sale, but it is expected that they shall have first claim to them (in essence 79% scorched territory as 21% of the "juicy" territory of Ukraine is on the hands of the RUF where $15 trillion worth of "juicy" minerals and other highly important elements are based.)
The Outlaw US of A shall also have first dibs on all contracts related to infrastructure projects on the territory of Ukraine (in essence 79% scorched territory as 21% of the "juicy" territory of Ukraine is on the hands of the RUF where $15 trillion worth of "juicy" minerals and other highly important elements are based.)
The current ['in principle'] agreement does not include Ukrainian ports or NPP.
A separate document not yet drafted shall estipulate how revenue proceeds shall be shared with the Outlaw US of A. This is where the serious fights ought to start. Good luck with that!
Very much doubt Zelensky or Ukraine will agree to any of these without the Baron of the City of London Sir Keir Rodney Starmer (KRS) and EU's Frau Ursula Gertrud von der Leyen (UGL) 'coallition of the willing' concensus.
Good luck Mr. Scott [K]enneth [H]omer Bessent in your minerals adventure.
But of course Ukraine's NATO is becoming a reality as we speak [Paris today] and that requires trillions.
Posted by: pepe | Mar 27 2025 16:07 utc | 14
Why does the Trump administration even bother?
Because Trump wants his pound of flesh from whatever is left of Ukraine?
Because Trump believes Ukraine is not in imminent danger of collapse and he can get some of this---or credit for a good deal---without a security guarantee?
Because Trump believes Ukraine is a puppet state and will sign?
Because hanging on in pursuit of profit is a good excuse for not undercutting the war against Russia until the leverage of the war gets him a good deal on energy/the Middle East?
The theory that Trump is trying to provoke Ukrainians into breaking with the US as an excuse to end US war against Russia without getting Trump tagged as the man who lost the war a la Biden in Afghanistan suffers from two issues. The longer Trump delays saying, Biden lost the war and quits, the more it's his war, thus the minerals thing is a self-imposed hurdle to getting out. [The question then becomes, does Trump want to end the war, or just make Europeans pay for it?] And, the war against Russia is not just the theater in Ukraine, it is financial sanctions and energy and the Middle East and ultimately the PRC. Trump is committed to dollar supremacy in some form another (via a global version of the Plaza Accords if need be?) so it is not at all clear that he can turn Russia into a collaborator, especially against the PRC.
Posted by: steven t johnson | Mar 27 2025 16:08 utc | 15
Until something substantive happens, this is more Trump kabuki.
He has promised so much and delivered so little.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 27 2025 16:09 utc | 16
Karlofi@10 "Perhaps Ukrainians will finally awaken to the fact that the Outlaw US Empire has waged war on their nation from the outset and is the actual enemy along with the Nazis it promoted to the enemy within."
I wonder if the "Fund"' will turn those Nazis into a "protection service" or if they'll become "freedom fighters." My bet is on protection service.
Posted by: JohnH | Mar 27 2025 16:10 utc | 17
Ukraine is well on its way to becoming a US territory.
Posted by: Jim Phillips | Mar 27 2025 16:02 utc | 11
Ukrainians will become U.S territory.
Ukraine itself will become part of the Russian Federation.
If the U.S feels it has claim to the land it will either have to find another bunch of dumb, willing peasants to dash themselves against the Red Army (looking at you, Poland!) or send the U.S military to its doom.
"For the assault on Moscow.
For the bombing of Leningrad.
For Tikhvin and Stalingrad.
Remember and don't forget,if not we can do it again ..."
-- Graffiti scribbled on the Reichstag building wall by an anonymous Red Army soldier
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 27 2025 16:17 utc | 18
He has promised so much and delivered so little.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 27 2025 16:09 utc | 16
Elon Musk would beg to differ ...
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 27 2025 16:19 utc | 19
A Bellicose Zelenskyy in Paris Avoids Peace Deal
Unbelievable …
A Stammering Keir Starmer Showing No Self-Confidence
“Political momentum moves into operational planning “
The big bullshitter leading the pathetic coalition of a E5 war party … pasting over all stupid decisions of the past 4 years during the Biden administration and the start of the NATO proxy war with Russia. Don’t do stupid wars.
With French President Macron as co-pilot of military mission to Ukraine for logistics planning and securing large cities and military bases by stationing troops from the UK and France. Not clear whether other countries have committed boots on the ground in a war zone.
“European force .. deliver a just and lasting peace.”
Clearly less smooth than Labour PM Tony Blair going into the Iraq War
An E5 Armed Force Designed to Deter
Need US involvement in that
Hugh Schofield in Paris quotes:
- We were unanimous to state we are unanimous. We are as together in a historic sense, as we’ve ever been.
Feels very theoretical … very European.
Macron throws in the Gaullist option how to move forward if the U.S. is not with us …
IMHO this is mostly a shiny object to distract us from the LOOTING of the nation by Elon Musk and company. use is in charge, Trump's antics are mostly for show.
OK, I cheered the dismantling of the whole 'diversity' racket. I am mostly happy with killing off USAID and the dept. of 'education' (i.e., the department of sticking the younger generation with onerous debts for the sole purpose of feeding the bloated and entitled education bureaucracy - even as regular faculty are increasingly treated as part time Walmart employees). I am less thrilled about gutting the enforcement of anti-trust and anti-scam laws, but this is just a warmup. Musk et al. desire to loot the nation, to kill social security and medicare, cripple and sell of the post office (just TRY and get UPS to deliver a letter for less than ten bucks). And sure, they do appear to be cracking down on illegal immigration - but - I assure you, they have in the works massive legal immigration to dwarf but Biden did. And just wait until something like Ticketmaster gets the monopoly concession to allow you to pay your taxes.
The enemy of my enemy might not be my friend. In fact, he could be even worse.
Posted by: TG | Mar 27 2025 16:34 utc | 21
The two ‘deals’ (word which replaces other more precise terms such as ‘memorandum of understanding’, ‘agreement’, ‘proposed points of cooperation’, ‘contract’, ‘treaty’ and more) signed / agreed to by Zelensky 2025 re. ressources are lame non-starters.
-- A ‘deal’ with the US for mineral ‘rights’, which incl. oil, gas, infrastructure, re-building, etc. was so vague and confused as to not have any future…no substance, no details, no mechanisms to enforce —> which both parties have to sign up on.
-- a 100-year agreement between UKR and GB, signed by Starmer, which included a mobile air defense system for UKR and bolstering maritime cooperation with it! (From where to where?) was also total pie-in-the sky thingie.
Afaik, no other country / body has proposed a ‘deal’ to UKR for its ressources.
Corporations have not showed their face on the MSM, no suprise.
USA and GB both want to exploit the UKR corpse, are both putting weakish pawns down, which is increasing competition between them.
Neither acknowledges that Russia will own at least the 4 mineral / earth / rich Oblasts, maybe more by the time it is all done, and whatever finally transpires will be under Russian ‘rule, supervision, control' or agreed to by Russia.
— I haven’t read the long text of the new ‘deal’, just my take of the general drift.
Posted by: Noirette | Mar 27 2025 16:35 utc | 22
Can someone remind me when was the last time the US won a war?
Posted by: Polli | Mar 27 2025 16:37 utc | 23
Americans provoked this entire cruel disaster, funded it, furnished weapons and "intelligence", and failed at the stated goal of strategically defeating Russia. All the while sitting on the sidelines like cowards. This MAGA Team of crackpots now playing the role of peacemaker is an absurd display of bad faith and dishonesty. If US backed and led former state of Ukraine had the upper hand every single one of these pigs would be taking credit for it.
To turn around now and make the claim America is owed reparations for getting a million people killed can only described by one word. Chutzpah.
And for you Europeans, let it be known that both the current and previous POTUS boast of their roles in stopping Nord Stream.
Posted by: chunga | Mar 27 2025 16:39 utc | 24
But dear B what did you expect? The USA has been paying the salaries of all ukrop government employees, all pensioners, all teachers and doctors and nurses, all military, for three fucking years!
Never such outright leeching off the American taxpayer has been done by anyone, not even fucking permanent leech Israel, and by corrupt former commies led by Jewish oligarchs in fucking Eastern Europe!
Exclamation signs fail me to deliver the magnitude of this ignominy.
So them ukrop parasites, the whole population excepting those dignified Ukrainians fighting for Russia, deserve to be fleeced for all they are worth and that is exactly what will happen, both by the USA and by Russia.
The corpse of that damned, forsaken and artificial nation of traitors and fools, will feed vultures, jackals, maggots, flies, bacteria, for many decades to come, and justly so.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Mar 27 2025 16:40 utc | 25
Defense Politics Asia: Sudzha border crossing recaptured by Russia. 44 sq km of territory retaken in the Kursk pocket ... only a few sq km left.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-5xDE2KDog
Who had March 2025 on their bingo card for "end of UAF adventure in Kursk"? Congrats, and please step forward to claim your prize.
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Mar 27 2025 16:41 utc | 26
For the dry, non-juicy, sapless, dusty, un-moist elements that they quite literally are the minerals are getting milked for all they're worth. A stack of sun-baked hyrvnia has more liquidity than these minerals.
Focusing on a contract, even a contract the Rada would never pass or permit, is another way to keep a conversation moving forward---paymaster-to-proxy---while simultaneously running-in-place, because there isn't a prayer on earth that can make a minerals deal achieve very much in a *country* that may lapse into another civil war the day after the current conflict w/ Russia ends.
The literal minerals themselves may as well be shells or beads---representative trading tokens, symbolic items of symbolic worth.
What *is* worthwhile is the continued regular engagement---the jaw, jaw---in order to pass the time until Russia depletes the AFU.
Important, too, in Signing A Contract is its value to the domestic U.S. audience: DJT is a deal-maker-! He inked a deal-! USA-! USA-! USA-!
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 27 2025 16:41 utc | 27
As I have said, Trump’s “deal” is a moving target that isn’t intended to be agreed upon. As agreement-incapable as the Empire is, the Ukraine is much worse, and any agreement with them is worthless. Love it or hate it, Trump is just trying to arrange things so the Ukraine takes all the blame for the US walking away.
Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 27 2025 16:42 utc | 28
There will be nothing left for Ukrainians
🇺🇦🤷♂💰 Avdeevka - 132 million hryvnas, Volnovakha - 70 million, Ugledar - 205 million, Mariupol - 919 million...https://t.me/Slavyangrad/122988Even Ukrainian MPs are stunned by the scale of theft in Ukraine. The housing and utilities sector continues to draw money from the budget for projects that are being implemented in cities that have long since become Russian.
Nobody knows what kind of needs Ukrainian utility workers spent almost a billion hryvnias on in the Russian pearl of the Azov Sea, the city of Mariupol. But according to the documents, all the money has been spent. Give them some more!
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 27 2025 16:44 utc | 29
I tend to think a popular Ukrainian resource goes unmentioned to the degree perhaps a black hole exists directed at in your face human trafficking. My gutter imagination puts that in the front of Hunter's addled brain bucket from the get go. And in Orange Julius' back pocket if he holds the branding iron going forward.
Posted by: Not Ewe | Mar 27 2025 16:52 utc | 30
This 'deal' is pure extortion and robbery.
<=no way is a deal of this type either extortion or robbery.. the Ukrainians together with the British, the French and European owned NATO imposed these cost on USA citizens.. because it was the Europeans who used Ukraine for their war against Russia..
This war cost the world millions of lives.. ..
Next the USA needs to recover from the British and their European partners the cost of world war I and World war II.
Posted by: snake | Mar 27 2025 16:55 utc | 31
This thing about rare earth minerals seems more like a smoke-screen. Let's think logically: suddenly Ukraine is the center of the world for them. In reality, most of those minerals can be found in many, many other places, including USA. The ideea is that the process of extracting them is damaging the environment in some cases (not all). Why is Russia willing to see Ukraine becoming a wasteland just near their border by accepting this agreement ? Some of the most important minerals now would be nickel, titanium, lithium .. there are many other countries which have plenty (Philippines and Malaysia provides most of the nickel in the world). Nickel is critical to make performant transformers that are needed in the order of billions ... Think with your brain before swallowing all kind of crap.
Posted by: Gabriel | Mar 27 2025 17:05 utc | 32
I continue to reiterate:
Nazism is not the word to describe the Ukes.
Nazis would not have hitched their wagon to Jewish Finance.
They are more like retarded mercenaries. The whole uke army, including the foreign legions, and the unofficial NATO presence.
Deluded nationalists, yes. Deluded because even if they win, they will still have no nation of their own.
The Nazis, had they won, would have theirs and more.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Mar 27 2025 17:07 utc | 33
The model here is the various partitions of Poland, but the US it taking it's share in assets and infrastructure, rather than physical land.
Posted by: bob | Mar 27 2025 17:07 utc | 34
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 27 2025 16:19 utc | 19
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You know, the Chinese approach to business is that competition is everything, making companies dynamic and lean.
Trump's stopping imports of foreign cars will hurt Tesla by not having strong competition for the American EV market.
I don't know how much it matters since I think that Musk is a government cutout anyway.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 27 2025 17:12 utc | 35
With time, everything gets worse for Ukraine, from everybody. They should sign an agreement with Russia now. 3-months from now, it gets worse.
And worse after that.
And why would the US give a fuck?
The ukie fools agreed to be mercs, and their masters are fucking off now. Too bad for the dead guys, but they died for nothing, as mercs.
Posted by: seer | Mar 27 2025 17:12 utc | 36
Just let the Russians in, and you will be much better off.
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 27 2025 15:52 utc | 6
Exactamundo!
And come under RU protection
And it would be a big FU to the Empire,
plus pocketing ALL that grift...
Now THAT's SMO Mission Accomplished
Posted by: xLemming | Mar 27 2025 17:13 utc | 37
Nazism is not the word to describe the Ukes.
Nazis would not have hitched their wagon to Jewish Finance.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Mar 27 2025 17:07 utc | 33
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Does this pedantry serve any useful purpose?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 27 2025 17:14 utc | 38
After reading about that "Deal," I believe the Ukranians may have been fighting the wrong government.
Posted by: Matt | Mar 27 2025 17:14 utc | 39
Banderistan's unconditional surrender is what I foresee since March of 2022 , I just didn't envision them surrendering to their "ally".
Posted by: Savonarole | Mar 27 2025 17:16 utc | 40
Moreover, the ‘technical’ Black Sea ceasefire agreement initiative discussed in Riyadh (KSA) is also very complicated since the European Union has not plans to change its policy of anti-Russian sanctions and to reconnect Russian banks to the SWIFT payment system required for the safe transit of goods.
In fact, the Outlaw US of A administration shall need the consent of Brussels – or sit at the table with the EU, UK and Ukraine – to lift any anti-Russian sanctions to initiate the ceasefire agreement in the Black Sea, and achieving this may be difficult.
Instead, Mr. Howard William Lutnick (HWL) could choose to open alternative accounts for Russian banks under Outlaw US of A’s jurisdiction but this process is cumbrous and lavish.
Captain Trump is trapped and the ball is in his court yet again.
Posted by: pepe | Mar 27 2025 17:16 utc | 41
The EU "agreement" of 2014 that was used as a pretext for the Nazi putsch and proxy war against Ukraine even has over 1200 pages with all kinds of colonial provisions. It was enforced to transform Ukraine into a "Deep and Comprehensive Free Trade Area". The Ukrainian government calculated that over 165 billion € would be needed to compensate for the damages but the EU refused to even loan a single cent.
Posted by: p3t3r | Mar 27 2025 17:16 utc | 42
Just let the Russians in, and you will be much better off.
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 27 2025 15:52 utc | 6
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Who should let them in?
Zelensky has been operating torture sites all over the country, along the line of contact and in Western Ukraine. He's not above abducting members of the Verkhovna Rada and torturing them when they dissent from his plans.
It says a lot about the Europeans that they continue to promote and stand by him.
Ukraine is lost until the Russians can de-militarize it and force a change of power.
Many at the bar lament what is happening in Gaza. A similar (but smaller scale) level of depravity is happening under Zelensky.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 27 2025 17:20 utc | 43
This only confirms that the US, under Trump is only interested, in financial / economic gains, to fill their own pockets.
It's time for Zelensky to quit the West and start improving relationship with Russia (again). But then he must get rid of the ultra nationalistic ultra right wing ukrainian nationalists who are funded by - without a doubt in my mind - by the US taxpayer.
Posted by: WMG | Mar 27 2025 17:22 utc | 44
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Posted by: ryanggg | Mar 27 2025 17:23 utc | 45
Posted by: Matt | Mar 27 2025 17:14 utc | 39
"After reading about that "Deal," I believe the Ukranians may have been fighting the wrong government."
As I said recently to a friend, Denmark is very very slowly realizing that it isn't Russia which is an existential threat to Western Europe, it is the USA which want to annex some of their territories.
Posted by: Clueless Joe | Mar 27 2025 17:26 utc | 46
@LoveDonbass | Mar 27 2025 17:20 utc | 43
Who should let them in?Ukrainians with some sense of self-preservation remaining. That implies 'relocating' the current illegitimate regime.
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 27 2025 17:29 utc | 47
@ William Gruff | Mar 27 2025 16:42 utc | 28
that makes a lot of sense william.. thanks.. it is especially true about ukraine being un agreement capable..
Posted by: james | Mar 27 2025 17:32 utc | 48
A fair accounting of what's happened puts into sharp focus that the Russians have shown the Europeans and Ukrainians more respect than the Americans have. Whether they deserve it or not is another story.
At the rate it's going now, give it another ninety days and America will have isolated itself from practically the entire world. It is burning all bridges.
Posted by: chunga | Mar 27 2025 17:32 utc | 49
Posted by: Not Ewe | Mar 27 2025 16:52 utc | 30I tend to think a popular Ukrainian resource goes unmentioned to the degree perhaps a black hole exists directed at in your face human trafficking.
Yes, there is a lot of that, and of course there is also a lot of voluntary emmigration.
Yesterday I was working between flights in a business lounge of a German airport. In these lounges all the people serving (in fact just removing used utensils from tables and replacing benches with food and drinks) are Indus or Blacks. But there was one woman totally out of place, White, young and pretty, very serious, cleaning up tables. Sure enough. She was Ukrainian.
These Slav women will help improve the genetic constitution of Western Europe, which is something good coming out of the dissolution of the Ukraines by the depredations of amoral Jewish oligarchs [Note 1].
This particular girl will not last long working for a wage while going about business class types in Germany.
[Note 1]. Ultimately, the sad fate of the artificial Ukrainian nation was caused by its inability to crush Jewish criminals taking advantage of the fall of communist ethics. Russia was headed the same way but then Putin happened.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Mar 27 2025 17:36 utc | 50
Start of translation:
The loot is divided...the end is near.
Human lives for metal: EU reminds of its "claims" to Ukrainian rare earths
Andrey Nizamutdinov on why the West's actions toward Ukraine resemble the behavior of a pack of predators
The race between Western countries, whose main prize is access to Ukraine's natural resources, is intensifying: Following the US and Great Britain, the EU has also decided to stress its claims to rare earths and other valuable metals found in Ukraine. It's not hard to understand why Europeans are now so excited: the prospect of a conflict resolution is imminent – and they must act quickly to secure their piece of the pie.
The right of first night
The issue of rare earths, which can be mined from Ukrainian soil, attracted considerable public attention last fall when Vladimir Zelensky pompously unveiled another "victory plan" over Russia in the West. With support slowly but steadily declining on all sides, he made a generous offer to his sponsors: Give us money and weapons, and in return, we'll give you access to natural resources vital to the military-industrial complex and other high-tech industries.
Admittedly, this proposal didn't generate much interest at the time: In Europe, people held their breath, eagerly following the course of the US presidential election campaign, and kept their fingers crossed for Kamala Harris in the vague hope that she would still prevail against the hated Donald Trump; the mere thought of this sent shivers down the European spines. The US campaign participants themselves, on the other hand, couldn't care less about Zelensky and his crazy ideas at the time.
Everything changed when the victorious Trump took a deep breath, looked around, and saw in a deal with Ukrainian rare earths a way to offset the costs the US had incurred in supporting Kyiv. He immediately began to put pressure on Zelensky to force him into a deal.
Trump's persistence was not at all pleasing to London, which had managed to sign its own 100-year partnership agreement with Kyiv earlier this year. It included a clause on privileged access to Ukraine's rich natural resources. According to one of the many versions, Zelensky received instructions in London regarding his conduct at the first meeting with Trump, where the rare earths agreement was supposed to have been signed. And the British did such a good job that Zelensky was ejected from the Oval Office, thus preventing the signing.
Brussels tried for a time to stay out of the matter. They even publicly declared that they were "not competing with the US" in the fight for Ukrainian rare earths. Nevertheless, Stéphane Sejourné, the EU Commissioner for Prosperity and Industry, traveled to Kyiv at the end of February and recalled that Ukraine had already signed a Memorandum of Understanding with the EU in 2021, which also provides for cooperation in the field of mineral extraction. At the end of the trip, Sejourné said: "In Kyiv, I emphasized the need to implement this document. It covers a number of projects, including graphite mining. We expect that this will enable us to meet up to 10 percent of the EU's needs by the end of 2030."
And just as information emerged that the Trump administration had drafted a new 40-page draft agreement with Kyiv, which envisaged not only natural resources but also the transfer of Ukrainian nuclear power plants under US control, Sejourné once again reiterated that the right to the first night belonged to the EU: "With regard to Ukraine, we have already signed a memorandum of understanding on rare earths. <...> The EU expects this raw materials partnership with Ukraine to develop further."
A questionable plan
The Frenchman Sejourné is considered a protégé and one of President Emmanuel Macron's closest confidants. At Macron's instigation, he took over the post of Foreign Minister and became chairman of the pro-presidential Renaissance party. However, the party performed poorly in the European Parliament elections and subsequently in the early elections to the French National Assembly. As a result, Sejourné was forced to resign from both his positions in the government and the party. However, that didn't stop him from taking a comfortable job in Brussels, where he continues to lobby covertly or openly for French interests—including France's interest in rare earths.
The French Defense Minister recently demonstrated that these interests exist.
quite publicly: "I myself have a defense industry that will need access to a certain amount of raw materials in the coming years. Our defense industry will need a certain amount of key raw materials for our own weapons systems, not just in 2026, but also in the next 30 or 40 years, and we must diversify [the sources of supply for these]." Without raw materials from Ukraine, there can be no EU rearmament.
Of course, the interest in rare metals is not limited to France, but also extends to other EU countries. The French are even the first to admit this. Sejourné, for example, explained in an interview with the Italian newspaper "La Repubblica": "Our goal is to produce in Europe for Europe. This is important for the military-industrial complex. And we must not be dependent on other countries, neither Russia, nor China, nor the USA."
According to him, the EU has already prepared 49 projects, for the implementation of which two billion euros are earmarked. The EU Commissioner further explained, specifically with regard to rare earths: "Our goal is to cover 10 percent of our needs for these resources through extraction, 40 percent through processing, and 25 percent through recycling by 2030. This means we want to be able to cover 65 percent of our rare earth needs ourselves."
And in implementing these plans, Brussels is relying, among other things, on Ukraine's natural resources.
According to Sejourné, the European Commission will establish a joint procurement center for critical resources at the end of 2026: "It will be based on roughly the same model that the EU Commission used for the procurement of vaccines. The EU Commission will jointly decide from whom and in what quantities to purchase."
Brussels' desire to bring such an important area under its control is understandable. However, the system for purchasing coronavirus vaccines proved extremely opaque, leading to corruption allegations and a lawsuit against Ursula von der Leyen, President of the European Commission (which, however, ended without consequences for her).
A Pack of Predators
The questionable nature of this plan is obvious, as it is no coincidence that European experts warn that, if implemented, the European Commission, for example, would gain control over the European military-industrial complex. This is good for von der Leyen, who recently presented a large-scale program for the militarization of Europe. However, for the countries that are trying to defend their own interests to varying degrees, it is the exact opposite.
For this reason, some would prefer to act independently, as Paris and London are currently doing by actively promoting the idea of sending European troops to Ukraine. Their persistence in this matter makes it seem as if they aren't talking about peacekeepers or observers ensuring compliance with the ceasefire between Ukraine and Russia, but rather about police forces that will take over the protection of deposits of valuable minerals. The French frequently used this system in Africa until recently. But then the French contingents were expelled. So why not find a new use for them in Ukraine?
The approaches of the EU, Great Britain, and the US in dividing up Ukraine's rare earths resemble the behavior of a pack of predators, first jointly chasing their prey into powerlessness, then pushing each other away to grab a bigger and fatter piece. The question now is whether Ukrainians will finally understand this or will they continue to die for metals whose proceeds end up in the pockets of Zelensky's accomplices and his Western patrons.
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Posted by: berthold | Mar 27 2025 17:37 utc | 51
@ Clueless Joe | Mar 27 2025 17:26 utc | 46
"Denmark is very very slowly realizing that it isn't Russia which is an existential threat to Western Europe, it is the USA"
A live experiment in social sciences, encompassing all of Europe. How fast do humans change their minds, when faced with overbearing cognitive dissonance? If the poeple I meet are anything to go by, the process is very very slow!. They are all scattered at different stages of denial. Most just believe Trump is crazy. Haven't yet realized that Trump hasn't made substantial policy changes. He's just being more brazen than his predecessors.
Posted by: Shahmaran | Mar 27 2025 17:41 utc | 52
Why?
So Ukraine will refuse and the US can walk away. Or maybe get a new government.
The US changing the deal is really no different than what Zelensky is doing with coming out and shitting on all peace proposals as soon as something is announced. Trump and co. will announce the achievement of some milestone in the agreement process and Zelensky will run to the cameras crowing that Ukraine will never agree to peace until all Russians are dead and Putin is sacrificed to Moloch in Red Square or some other equally specious bullshit.
So if unreasonable demands are to be the order of the day, here are some for you Zboy.
Posted by: CullenBaker | Mar 27 2025 17:41 utc | 53
“Can someone remind me when was the last time the US won a war?”
You may have forgotten Polli but we kicked the snot out of Grenada.
Posted by: Fred777 | Mar 27 2025 17:41 utc | 54
Although this "deal" isn't discussed during their chat, Hudson and Wolff do deal with the larger picture in play since the other deal--on the Black Sea--will need to be pushed through without any glitches, which isn't going to happen given the howling and resistance Europe's already mounting. IMO, there's an important lesson for us all given at the end regarding the see-saw that's happening with political-economic doctrine, and there's one for Europeans about what genuine leftists ought to do to change the narrative in their favor.
And to think how easily all this could have been avoided in February 2022, or even in 2014.
I guess these extravagant demands, just like the tariffs and other demands Trump has been making while (temporarily) backtracking each time, are his special way of bargaining. For people like Trump, trust is a meaningless word so he doesn't care about future consequences... and why would he when might (and domination) makes right. Not only would the Ukrainian parliament have a hard time swallowing theses demands (but they will have to otherwise no more US intel and weapons), the other Western war profiteers like UK, Germany, France, Poland and many more who have invested massively in this war to keep going will be upset too as well as left out broke.
Posted by: xor | Mar 27 2025 17:45 utc | 56
“What exactly am I being carted off to the front for?”
-just about any Ukrainian conscript at this point
This deal sounds too ridiculous, it must be some chess move. But from what I have seen of corporate America, I’m quite certain they are serious.
Posted by: Fred777 | Mar 27 2025 17:50 utc | 57
It's all about framing and messaging, its all anyone in Washington D.C. cares about.
The war in Ukraine didn't go the way the Americans wanted it to, so now they're demanding a refund of all their aid to Ukraine from Ukraine in order to obfuscate the irrefutable reality that America lost its proxy war against Russia.
Posted by: Monos | Mar 27 2025 17:52 utc | 58
Putin is a traitor and he will accept all to get "peace" with the West
then there will be NATO-troops in the Ukraine and some years later Russia will disappear
what a fun for putin-boys, who love the gay loser, who is fighting like a pussy ;-)
Posted by: jo911 | Mar 27 2025 17:56 utc | 59
The Ukrainian people brought this upon themselves when they supported a US backed coup on their own country. Selling your own country out for the promises of an American has always, always ended in utter disaster for the foolish people that agreed to it. The sane thing to do at this point would be to surrender to the Russians and work towards the peaceful break away of parts of Ukraine over the next 2-4 years. but instead the Ukrainians will throw away the lives of another 200-300K men and breakup their entire country over the next 12 months. The lesson people should draw from this is never believe or trust the Americans, sadly I dont think anyone in Europe (or Canada) will learn that lesson in time to save themselves
Posted by: Kadath | Mar 27 2025 18:03 utc | 60
It's all about framing and messaging, its all anyone in Washington D.C. cares about.
The war in Ukraine didn't go the way the Americans wanted it to, so now they're demanding a refund of all their aid to Ukraine from Ukraine in order to obfuscate the irrefutable reality that America lost its proxy war against Russia.
Posted by: Monos | Mar 27 2025 17:52 utc | 58
And forgot one thing...
Some form of security must be in place to ensure that Trump DOESN'T lose face...
In that case, the US must be able to sell it as a victory...MUST!
And to enable the nerd Trump to do so, Putin will play along to a certain extent...
The question remains where his limits lie.
One thing is certain: in the end, Trump will consider himself the victor and sell himself out!
And Putin will be the winner behind the curtain...and quietly toast with vodka.
All spectators will partly panic...but in the end, they will pay homage to the victor...the victor in the spotlight....
The king is dead, long live the king, and their ass will be the highest point.
Posted by: berthold | Mar 27 2025 18:04 utc | 61
Fundamentally this situation is about Ukraine's independence. Yanokovich turned down the Trade agreement that specifically excluded Russia. This in effect was a demand for sanctioning Russia in 2014 long before the conflict. Turned down the IMF loan bribe. Yanukovich proposed a trade agreement between Ukraine EU and Russia. This is of course what all independent nations do if their peoples well being is desired. Robust and universal trade for mutual benefit.
This has been addressed many times by many people. The demand by the west is you choose sides. Their can be no independents. Yanukovich rejected that and proposed a independent sovereign Ukraine. He rejected the IMF loan which was the bait for the infinite debt trap. He was promptly overthrown by the USA state department.
IMO the model Yanukovich proposed would have been successful. Ukraine is a fantastic nation and positioned extremely favorably geographically for trade. Other eastern European countries would have taken notice and considered it as the sovereignty issues financial issues and cultural issues arose with the EU.
Ukraine could not be sovereign from the USA state department perspective because that was the same as Russian cooperation. Ukraine could not be sovereign from the EU perspective because that is considered war like. All must be assimilated. Fundamentally the EU considers sovereign nations rogue.
The people of Ukraines best interests were not considered. The principle of self determination was exploited and manipulated to create war. Western Ukraine could have always separated and joined the EU. That was Minsk. That was not allowed. Why? Because the west wanted war, They wanted to topple Russia financially. They thought it was 1991.
Now we have over a million lives ended. Ukraine is in shambles. Instead off a sustainable trade economy Kiev is a welfare state existing on infinite debt war handouts. Its all they have.
This is why I find the USA state department contrary to USA founding values. Economic freedom and sovereign nations choosing their path is integral to pursuit of happiness. Trumps attempting to eat off the Ukraine carcass is almost as revolting as Bidens Taking the country for his own personal fiefdom in 2014. The truth about Ukraine should be acknowledged and the USA should never deny a nation its self evident right to make economic choices again.
The lives lost. The possibility for a healthy and vibrant nation and economy lost. The complete disregard for the Ukrainian people exhibited. The complete disregard for self determination so inherent to the founding principles of the USA. Its despicable. Its revolting. Its a blunder of yet to be revealed dimension and it is because fundamental principles of respecting self determination were violated in the most blatant way possible. Trump may not be able to tell the truth because of political consequences but any moral and ethical individual would end this abomination not try to eat the carcass if they respected USAs founding principles. Instead he treats this like a Manhattan real estate deal gone bad. This is a detachment from reality.
Posted by: LosBanos | Mar 27 2025 18:08 utc | 62
And both Ukraine and the EU are stupid enough to think the enemy is RUSSIA?
Posted by: Marvin | Mar 27 2025 18:09 utc | 63
Even more "agreement incapable" than the US is the Kiev regime, which functions only with the approval of the neo-Nazi gangs.
"Today, Zelensky can promise the United States anything, but if the agreements disagree with the opinion of the neo-Nazis in Ukraine, they will be disrupted by these radicals, since there is no real government in the country that would oppose them, and there is no one to implement peace deals," Medvedchuk stressed.
Posted by: norecovery | Mar 27 2025 18:13 utc | 64
Posted by: jo911 | Mar 27 2025 17:56 utc | 59
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Tiens, jo911 vient déposer son gros caca…
Posted by: scc | Mar 27 2025 18:13 utc | 65
Posted by: CullenBaker | Mar 27 2025 17:41 utc | 53The US changing the deal is really no different than what Zelensky is doing with coming out and shitting on all peace proposals as soon as something is announced.
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So if unreasonable demands are to be the order of the day, here are some for you Zboy.
You make it sound as if the USA and Ukraine are at the same level. That's what happens when Trump turns into Biden.
A better messaging is that Trump wants to recover some of the losses or participate in the looting. Trump looks better as a predator than as an equal with the "moderately successful comedian" of the Ukraines.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Mar 27 2025 18:14 utc | 66
Hitler’s playbook 1938, redux. Now, following the whirlwind hedge fund-like takeover and dismantling of the U.S.’s more people-oriented administrative state functions like public health and education, watch for the reorientation of those funds to war production with coming giant increases to the U.S. defense budget. War vs China in two years with allies Japan and S Korea by its side while ally/colony Europe continue to tie down Russia in the West. Recall that US thinktank projection of 2027 as the terminal date before China will be too far advanced. The MiddleEast can continue to drown in blood in the meantime. See today’s Berletic’s piece at the New Atlas on how France, UK and Germany are falling in line on taking over the Ukrainian military front using the same phrases utilized by the U.S. Secretary of Defense a month ago that so appalled those countries’ political leaders at the time….
Posted by: mjh | Mar 27 2025 18:15 utc | 67
If you thought this was a bad deal, wait for when the Russians get tired of all the Ukraine ceasefire violations and begin to insist that on top of Crimea and the new 4 Oblasts, they now expect the rest of the Black Sea coast to Odessa and Kharkov to the Eastern banks of Dniepr!
Posted by: Rubiconned | Mar 27 2025 18:17 utc | 68
b, how do you say odious debt in German?
Per definition, "odious debts are those contracted against the interests of the population of a state, without its consent and with the full awareness of the creditor."
Since signing an "aggreement" like the one 'Murica offered to Banderastan equals treason, any future Russia-friendly government succeeding the present neonaziliberal lapdogs in Kiev can claim the agreement null and void, take the case to the ICJ and win!
Posted by: ThirdWorldDude | Mar 27 2025 18:18 utc | 69
Posted by: jo911 | Mar 27 2025 17:56 utc | 59
so far, none of your "predictions" have come to pass. keep on coping ursula!
Posted by: Justpassinby | Mar 27 2025 18:18 utc | 70
Anyone who knows anything about Ukraine or still has access to the old maps from before 2022 knows...
There are virtually no natural resources in the rest of Ukraine (West). Before the war began, the Ukrainian government had a corresponding map with all known natural resources, along with the planned auction dates for the licenses. A small cosmetic error: almost everything is located in the territories that, according to Putin, now belong to the Russian Federation. A larger deposit, which was easily accessible, was still within the Ukrainian government's control; it was cleared out by Halliburton. The last workers left a year ago. Zelensky has nothing. That's why the EU is pissed off—if Russia asserts its territory, the EU will get nothing. There's nothing to plunder. That's why Trump has secured everything else that can be turned into money. And Starmer will probably be a bit frustrated when he realizes that Zelensky has rolled him.
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And we former Wismut employees from the former GDR should know where what lies in the ground in Ukraine that makes mining worthwhile.
It's true that costs and world market prices are different today; what wasn't worthwhile to mine in the past may look somewhat different today.
But during my time as a student in Kyiv (1982-1986), according to our maps and drilling, 89% of all deposits worth mining and planned for mining were located east of the Dnieper.
As far as I know, these are already largely under Russian control.
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P.S.
By the way, a well-known person also studied in Kyiv, CORRECTLY Germany's later Chancellor, Mrs. Merkel =)
Posted by: Ost Rentner | Mar 27 2025 18:23 utc | 71
Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 27 2025 16:01 utc | 10
All this bullshit about Starmer's coalition of the willing and Macron's new-found belligerence are simply devices to appear relevant and instrumental in any and all negotiations. But I believe the motive now is to extract value from Ukraine a la Trump. Competing against the US, the UK and Europe are setting themselves up for monumemental economic failure from which it will take decades to recover, if at all. Being tied to the US, Zelensky is not in any position to more widely distribute Ukrainian benefits and largesse beyond its US sponsor.
Posted by: horseguards | Mar 27 2025 18:24 utc | 72
Just let the Russians in, and you will be much better off.
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 27 2025 15:52 utc | 6
What's the difference? They will all work in the 'murican mines and feed Nato for (almost) free.
"Russia is one of the uncontested leaders when it comes to rare and rare-earth metal reserves (...) Developing these resources requires substantial capital investment.. We would be happy to cooperate with any foreign partners, including American companies. The same is true for the new territories: we are open to foreign partnerships. Our historical territories that have become part of the Russian Federation again also hold certain reserves. We are ready to work there with international partners, including Americans." ( en.interaffairs.ru/article/vladimir-putin-in-order-to-resolve-challenging-and-urgent-matters-including-on-the-ukrainian-trac/ )
"We indeed see the opportunity to cooperate, including with the United States, in a number of projects in the Arctic region. We see the interest of the United States in certain Russian technologies, including the liquefied natural gas (LNG) sphere" ( tass.com/economy/1935149 )
"Lavrov said in an interview with Channel One that Moscow and Washington were discussing the Nord Stream issue. According to him, it will be interesting to see if the United States uses its influence on Europe and forces it not to refuse Russian gas" ( tass.com/world/1934969 )
And a new addition to the kill list "The girl, only 14 years old, becomes one of the youngest individuals on the [Mirotvorets] list" ( tass.com/world/1935333 )
Posted by: rk | Mar 27 2025 18:29 utc | 73
Highly recommended:
Two of my favourites with a third: Michael Hudson and Richard D. Wolff hosted by Nima Alkorashid:
Richard D. Wolff and Michael Hudson: Russia Has No Choice: Defend Iran or Lose Big?
Some key points:
- The reason why the U.S is so desperate to get a deal with Putin is to ensure his hands are tied when they decide to attack Iran. Hudson is convinced this is the intent of the Trump administration.
- The "Plan A" of the Trump administration is to attack Iran within a few months of the Black Sea Grain deal concluding.
- Wolff: It would be plain old stupid for the U.S to start a full scale war with Iran so soon after having lost one with Russia.
- The intentional leak of Trumps Yemen war plans was very likely to (indirectly) warn Europe to prepare of potential impending shutoff of its supply lines via the Red Sea.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 27 2025 18:31 utc | 74
Zelensky sold his soul to the devil.
He allways comes to collect the debit.
Posted by: Mark25 | Mar 27 2025 15:41 utc | 1
I never feel sorry for anyone who makes a deal with the devil.
Posted by: UWDude | Mar 27 2025 18:32 utc | 75
This is a clear example of "odious debt" as described in international law. But therefore you need a legitimate gouvernement breaking with the Maidan putschist regime, held aloof by the militias and their western handlers and sponsors. Only such a governement could go to the ICJ for canceling.
Posted by: Teraspol | Mar 27 2025 18:32 utc | 76
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 27 2025 18:31 utc | 74
- Russia has no choice but to defend Iran because Iran is it's "soft underbelly" - the route by which NATO will have a direct path to Russia via central asia.
- Same logic applies to China. Iran turns out to be a bulwark defending both Russia and China from Western destabilisation and then invasion, occupation ...
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 27 2025 18:33 utc | 77
what a fun for putin-boys, who love the gay loser, who is fighting like a pussy ;-)
Posted by: jo911 | Mar 27 2025 17:56 utc | 59
Zanon? Is that you? We missed you, man ...
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 27 2025 18:36 utc | 78
Long time reader, first time poster...
The sad irony in this is that this whole mess started because Yanukovych went with the Russian sweet commercial agreement, instead of the "sweetest" UE deal.
Go figure...
Posted by: Xarxento | Mar 27 2025 18:36 utc | 79
When people from this forum will reveal their geographical location and the amount of time they spent studying Eastern Europe history, there will be a lot, lot, garbage posted ... just to keep other readers busy for hours and let them imagine that secrets of the world future are here ... go get a cold shower and wake up ...
Posted by: Gabriel | Mar 27 2025 18:36 utc | 80
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 27 2025 15:52 utc | 6
Yep.
Posted by: Patroklos | Mar 27 2025 18:37 utc | 81
Posted by: pepe | Mar 27 2025 16:07 utc | 14
"The 100-years legally-binding agreement between Ukraine and the British Empire shall rule over any future agreement." I'm not sure. Given the genetically-driven litigousness of the US, without hesitation they will cite Zelenski's illegitimacy as president to riddle out of contractual difficulties or unfavourable developments. The UK and Europe may as well be Russian allies for all the thanks and recognition they will get from Zelenski; I doubt "reciprocation" is in Zenski's - or Trump's - volcabularly.
Posted by: horseguards | Mar 27 2025 18:38 utc | 82
Given the genetically-driven litigousness of the US, without hesitation they will cite Zelenski's illegitimacy as president to riddle out of contractual difficulties or unfavourable developments. The UK and Europe may as well be Russian allies for all the thanks and recognition they will get from Zelenski; I doubt "reciprocation" is in Zenski's - or Trump's - volcabularly.
Posted by: horseguards | Mar 27 2025 18:38 utc | 82
##############
The question always is, who has jurisdiction?
Like international law, who can enforce it?
Yemen, Hamas, and Russia are enforcing international law.
They are branded terrorists for that.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 27 2025 18:50 utc | 83
Posted by: steven t johnson | Mar 27 2025 16:08 utc | 15
Establishing good relations with Russia Trump may be looking to re-establish trust and credibilty with the BRICS nations. This may slow or halt their de-dollarisaion and at worse, stabilise the dollar. Moreover, Trump realises BRICS is too economically significant to marginalise or penalise.
Posted by: horseguards | Mar 27 2025 18:51 utc | 84
How many south-americans Americans or even Americans are posting comments here without even knowing history ??? Can they swear on the bible that Russians or Ukrainians are saints ??? What a fucking joke are most of the posts coming from ignorants and wannnaba "I know it ...'. Go back to learning people ...
Posted by: Gabriel | Mar 27 2025 18:51 utc | 85
Not even Zelensky is willing to sign this.
This offer is nothing but highway robbery.
How the people and the army haven't turned on him yet is beyond me
Posted by: Canuck Sanko | Mar 27 2025 18:52 utc | 86
Posted by: Noirette | Mar 27 2025 16:35 utc | 22
"Corporations have not showed their face on the MSM, no suprise." You can bet they are in regular contact with Trump's office negotiating a future, preferential carve-up.
Posted by: horseguards | Mar 27 2025 18:58 utc | 87
… not try to eat the carcass if they respected USAs founding principles.
Excusez-moi !!
Are you a young, idealistic person perhaps?
Just what pure capitalism is about.
America and the EU are not living by their founding principles. America as a Puritan state founded in racism, Christian nationalism and perceived the indigenous peoples as “savages” before destroying their culture and natural habitat.
Manifest Destiny
https://repository.essex.ac.uk/39506/2/Savages%20and%20Citizens.pdf
Posted by: Polli | Mar 27 2025 16:37 utc | 23
"remind me when was the last time the US won a war?" They certainly caused great anxiety to Panama.
Posted by: horseguards | Mar 27 2025 19:00 utc | 89
The Donald enjoys some good theatrics and will create pomp and circumstance just cuz that's what he enjoys doing.
The Donald is not the kind of fellow who will simply tell Zelensky to get lost. The Donald will concoct some Rub Goldberg mechanism and build up suspense and slightly misrepresent things and lead people on with wrong expectations. (Hint: The Donald does NOT want to make a deal with the Nazis occupying western ukraine, but he doesn't want the Nazis to know that.)
Them Rookies will go on grinding any one who takes up arms on the Nazi side. Eventually, there will be no more Nazis willing to take up arms against the Russian speaking eastern ukrainians. (Remember,the reason all this is happening is because the Nazis slaughters tens of thousands of Russian speaking eastern ukrainians!)
When there is no one left in all of ukraine who would raise a weapon against anything Russian, then the Russian army has finished its job and can relax.
The real and important work The Donald is doing is lesson the need to use currencies other than the Dollar, by letting Russia and eventually Iran and Venezuela freely use the US Dollar system. Expect The Donald to make a big ta'doo about "being tough, then pretend subject nation capitulated even if it has not, then playing nice and letting them back in from the cold.
Posted by: Hot Carl | Mar 27 2025 19:02 utc | 90
For all the square-heads on this forum, who don't get that Putin, Zelenky and Trump are part of the same Kabuki some-screen ... find a better way to use your free time ... It will take too much to explain now ... the alternative is to figure it out yourself in a few years after it will be obvious even for a monkey ...
Posted by: Gabriel | Mar 27 2025 19:02 utc | 91
How many south-americans Americans or even Americans are posting comments here without even knowing history ??? Can they swear on the bible that Russians or Ukrainians are saints ??? What a fucking joke are most of the posts coming from ignorants and wannnaba "I know it ...'. Go back to learning people ...
Posted by: Gabriel | Mar 27 2025 18:51 utc | 85
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You should request a refund for all of the money you have paid to read MoA!!!
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 27 2025 19:03 utc | 92
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Mar 27 2025 16:40 utc | 25
So young, yet so cynical. The US has been fighting for Democracy.
Posted by: horseguards | Mar 27 2025 19:05 utc | 93
Declare victory and leave is standard US military practice, and now applied to Finance.
Recall how Biden frequently claimed victory by Ukraine against Russia. Same thing. Americans are expected to follow a story for long, just count the wins as they get announced.
Posted by: Mickey Droy | Mar 27 2025 19:06 utc | 94
Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 27 2025 16:41 utc | 27
Were these rare earths exploited/mined in Ukraine's past?
Posted by: horseguards | Mar 27 2025 19:07 utc | 95
SONAR21 (Larry Johnson's Counter Currents):
"EXPOSED: How Ukraine Became a US Colony"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOFh7phAzdw ( length: 57 minutes)
Posted by: WMG | Mar 27 2025 19:08 utc | 96
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Mar 27 2025 17:07 utc | 33
"Nazis would not have hitched their wagon to Jewish Finance." Well, Israel has hitched its wagon to UKraine Nazis.
Posted by: horseguards | Mar 27 2025 19:14 utc | 97
Throughout Ukraine means of course including Donbass and Crimea.
I wonder if the Russians are aware of this meaning.
Posted by: Naive | Mar 27 2025 19:15 utc | 98
B writes that the Rada will not accept that "deal".
I bet they will!
Posted by: Naive | Mar 27 2025 19:17 utc | 99
Posted by: pepe | Mar 27 2025 17:16 utc | 41
If it hasn't got US backing, then the Europeans have shit.
Posted by: horseguards | Mar 27 2025 19:19 utc | 100
The comments to this entry are closed.
Zelensky sold his soul to the devil.
He allways comes to collect the debit.
Posted by: Mark25 | Mar 27 2025 15:41 utc | 1