Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
March 3, 2025
Starmer’s Summit Gives Birth To A Mouse – It’s Stillborn.

A mountain was in labour, uttering immense groans,
and on earth there was very great expectation.
But it gave birth to a mouse. This has been written for you,
who, though you threaten great things, accomplish nothing."

Sundays meeting of selected European leaders in London reminded me of the above Aesop fable.

Prime Minister Starmer's summit, called for in haste, has achieved nothing:

British Prime Minister Keir Starmer rallied his European counterparts Sunday to shore up their borders and throw their full weight behind Ukraine as he announced outlines of a plan to end Russia’s war.

Starmer said he had worked with France and Ukraine on a plan to end the war and that the group of leaders — mostly from Europe — had agreed on four things.

The steps toward peace would:

  • keep aid flowing to Kyiv and maintain economic pressure on Russia to strengthen Ukraine’s hand;
  • make sure Ukraine is at the bargaining table and any peace deal must ensure its sovereignty and security; and
  • continue to arm Ukraine to deter future invasion.
  • Finally, Starmer said they would develop a “coalition of the willing” to defend Ukraine and guarantee the peace.

“Not every nation will feel able to contribute but that can’t mean that we sit back,” he said. “Instead, those willing will intensify planning now with real urgency. The U.K. is prepared to back this with boots on the ground and planes in the air, together with others.”

It is far from certain whether Russian President Vladimir Putin will accept any such plan, which Starmer said would require strong U.S. backing. He did not specify what that meant, though he told the BBC before the summit that there were “intense discussions” to get a security guarantee from the U.S.

“If there is to be a deal, if there is to be a stopping of the fighting, then that agreement has to be defended, because the worst of all outcomes is that there is a temporary pause and then Putin comes again,” Starmer said.

Starmer said he will later bring a more formal plan to the U.S. and work with Trump.

That mouse the mountain gave birth to is stillborn:

– Trump has made clear that the U.S. will not agree to back any European forces in Ukraine.

– Zelenski, unless under more pressure, will not agree to a ceasefire without U.S. backing.

– Russia does not agree to any temporary ceasefire. It wants a new permanent security architecture for Europe and beyond.

– Russia does not agree to forces from NATO countries in Ukraine. It started the war to prevent that to happen.

– Russia will not agree to a rearming of Ukraine. Its declared aim is to 'de-militarize' the country.

– Russia is winning the war. Neither Starmer nor Europe have the means to prevent it from doing that.

What Starmer and Macron are trying to do now is the very same they had failed to do last week when the both made the pilgrimage to Washington DC:

Macron, Meloni and Starmer were among European leaders who spoke with both Trump and Zelenskiy over the weekend, as they tried to get the two men back to the table. They believe there’s still a narrow path to reviving the minerals deal that the presidents had planned to sign, giving the US leader a vested interest in deterring further Russian aggression against Ukraine.

They still want to win Trump's agreement to prolong the war. I doubt that this second attempt will be more successful than their first try.

One wonders how Starmer and Macron became delusional enough would even try that plot. One reason may be that get advised my 'military experts' like these:

Despite President Volodymyr Zelensky’s efforts, the United States has made it clear that it does not intend to offer Ukraine security guarantees or directly contribute to any forces supporting Ukraine after the imposition of a ceasefire. It therefore falls upon Europe to plan for such a force. This is a serious undertaking. Can European powers field such a force without hollowing out Europe’s ability to defend NATO’s borders, all while the United States potentially withdraws forces from the continent?

While the length of front and the size of Russian ground forces may give the impression that the task is infeasible, in our view it is practicable if European nations are willing to pay the cost. With the right force balance, investment, and political framework Europe could generate a credible commitment.

There is nothing fantastical about a European mission in Ukraine.

Watling and Kofman, the authors of the above, call for the deployment of three(!) European brigades to Ukraine:

Given the significant degradation in Russian force quality over the course of the last three years of fighting, the initial force deployed could be as few as three combat brigades, or their equivalents.

Since the start of the war the Russian forces in Ukraine have more than doubled in size. Russia is now producing more missiles and drones than ever before. Its soldiers have gained valuable experience. How can this be seen as a 'degradation in Russian force quality'?

Ukraine itself has deployed some 100 brigades in the war and Russia about twice that many.

How three inexperienced multinational brigades from western Europe could in any way effect that balance is way beyond me.

Is there any way to direct these people to a more realistic and sane view of the world?

Comments

Why did trump dump Eurpoe and zel manboy ?
Trump found out that it was all a scam to steal american dollers. Including canida being envolved hence the “51 state comment”
How do i know this ?
I learned it on the great ‘Moon Of Alabama’ Blog. A month before it happened.
Would i know this by listening to ‘the news’ ?
What percentage of the public just listen to ‘the news’

Posted by: Mark2 | Mar 3 2025 20:23 utc | 101

Denial is the first stage of grief, and the most difficult one to overcome. That’s what we saw this past Sunday.
To be perfectly clear, when I say that, I do not mean that the Europeans are upset over the dismal state of Ukraine and the course of the war. The Europeans are upset by the fact that for the first time in five hundred years they are completely irrelevant pygmies. They’ve been excised from any all talks between the Great Powers of our day and age.
This, after they were willing and active participants in sabotage of their own countries by the US. The UK/EU has no military power to speak of, their economies are de-industrializing thanks to US sanctions on Russia (to say nothing of the US blowing-up Nordstream II), they need the Americans to bail them out via swap lines with the Fed to avoid bankruptcy so they can continue funding their welfare programs.
In short: Europe is fucked, the leaders of Europe know it, and all they achieve with this saber-rattling is reminding everyone just how weak they are.

Posted by: Monos | Mar 3 2025 20:24 utc | 102

@Steve | Mar 3 2025 20:18 utc | 96

Russia has publicly said that Ukraine is free to join the EU.

I don’t have any links to support it, but as the EU becomes more and militaristic I believe Russia may have already revised that standpoint.
Or more likely, they consider the EU to be unsustainable and it will disappear and solve that particular issue.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 3 2025 20:24 utc | 103

“US has accepted they lost the war at russia.”
The coalition in power in Washington since 1963 is made up of the imperial party, the zionist party and the oligarchic party
The bet on sacrificing Ukraine to collapse Russia is already a thing of the past because Russia has not collapsed, and on the other hand the Zionists prefer to get along with Russia’s blind ruling class.
Sir Starmer is a Pharisee-type Zionist who perhaps has not realized that power is now held by Sadducee-type Zionists.

Posted by: Simon | Mar 3 2025 20:27 utc | 104

Cannuck @ 99
Like 👍
Sorry about my spelling, not intentional.

Posted by: Mark2 | Mar 3 2025 20:32 utc | 105

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 3 2025 19:52 utc | 87
Yes, that’s the reason, their governments tend to take care of their citizens because they are social democracies and riddled with the criminal corruption at the heart of the US gov’t. But that is changing I think. The governments in the EU are beginning to smell bad particularly in the free-speech area.

Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Mar 3 2025 20:33 utc | 106

Business Decision
During an Oval Office showdown, Trump makes a business decision, ending America’s geopolitical tug-of-war with Russia over Ukraine—echoing Thucydides’ Melian Dialogue, but in a different key.
https://www.beyondwasteland.net/p/business-decision

Posted by: KevinB | Mar 3 2025 20:35 utc | 107

Catch 22
A very good book about the futility and self serving nature of war.
And here we are, at this very momment.

Posted by: Mark2 | Mar 3 2025 20:35 utc | 108

I don’t know why a lot of you Euros can’t really wrap your minds around the increasingly real possibility of a global realignment.
The subtext to Vance’s speech in Munich was that if one can be imprisoned for wrong think, have your political party outlawed, have elections overturned and so on and so forth in Europe, then how is Europe preferable to Russia, China, or some shit hole in darkest Africa? You don’t share our values. Why should we spend blood and treasure on your defense? Let Russia take you if it is so inclined. How could it be worse?
As for us getting out of Europe and it becoming a competitor…well, where is going to get it’s oil? And where is its unity? Some of you seem to believe in a United Europe. When has that ever been the case? More likely it fractures into half a dozen competing blocs of various nations than becoming the United States of Europe and a great power.
And it is quickly becoming an issue of national security to distance ourselves from Europe. If the bellicose idiots in London, Paris, and Berlin are going to start WW III, we want no part of it. I don’t want to live in a world where those cities get themselves nuked, but I’d a lot rather live in the world where the leaders in Britain, France, and Berlin got their own cities nuked than they got Dallas and Houston nuked.
So all that said, I think a major realignment is not only possible but very likely at this point. And lest you think America is guaranteed to switch at the next election, new polling shows Trump at 60% approval in the 18-39 age bracket. MAGA will gain in strength as the old boomers die off.

Posted by: CullenBaker | Mar 3 2025 20:40 utc | 109

psychohistorian | Mar 3 2025 19:14 utc | 66–
Thanks for your reply. I omitted the Eurasian Security Pact because I see it as inclusive to any agreed outcome, meaning there won’t be an agreed outcome without it, which IMO is what Putin wants period. In the article I wrote about China today, I imply that Trump’s policy has a very large contradiction because Cold War thinking still dominates within his circle, particularly with Rubio. And I again defer to what Lavrov said in his interview yesterday that the Outlaw US Empire still retains its goals and its shortcomings, both of which can become obstacles to resuming normal relations.
There are other contradictions within the European cabal–Europe is an occupied colony of the Empire. Merz has said Germany must become independent of America, but Germany’s an occupied nation that still lives on the income that occupation provides. Italy and England too. Who’s funding the big base being constructed in Romania? The Colonization was completed by Biden, but Trump doesn’t seem to know how to manage it, or if he even wants that arrangement.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 3 2025 20:40 utc | 110

“Is there any way to direct these people to a more realistic and sane view of the world?”
No. A large cull of Europeans in Ukraine – and throughout a Europe stripped of U.S. cover – might do it though.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Mar 3 2025 20:48 utc | 111

@karlof1 | Mar 3 2025 20:40 utc | 109

There are other contradictions within the European cabal–Europe is an occupied colony of the Empire. Merz has said Germany must become independent of America, but Germany’s an occupied nation that still lives on the income that occupation provides.

An occupied colony that benefits from being occupied? That sounds like a contradiction indeed.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 3 2025 20:52 utc | 112

Westerners have a long journey ahead of them, a cultural and psychological journey of escape from a mono-cultural mind bubble and to discovering the reality of multiple cultures and ways of seeing the world – of discovering the human race.
And looking at the wreckage that they have left behind them and the truth of what they are.

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Mar 3 2025 20:56 utc | 113

The delusional European leaders will just have to face reality like the Ukrainians did. Eventually, the propaganda bubble they’ve wrapped themselves in will get popped, whether they like it or not.
It was incredible watching their leaders’ and their media’s absurd reaction to the Americans’ destruction of the Nordstream pipelines. Unlike the case of US spying on Merkel, where little real damage was done, the destruction of Nordstream took out the economic foundations of Germany, the growth engine of Europe, and raised energy prices across the board. You’d think they’d go after the ones responsible for such a devastating attack, but instead, those pathetic leaders colluded with the perpetrators and blamed the other victim, Russia, for destroying its own pipeline.
After displaying such stupidity, I knew they were on the way to writing themselves off the world stage. Having to mobilize their military after the US pulls out to continue fighting a losing war would be par on course.

Posted by: Autumn | Mar 3 2025 20:56 utc | 114

@Hobo3
Follow up to your questions March 2 2025 comment 147
Prior to the Irish elections November 2024, -when he was Prime minister- he courted the Irish electorates pro Palestinian sentiments, perhaps to sway undecided voters away from Sinn Fein. Since the election he hasn’t been as vocal. Some would argue that is because his current position is not as visible as when he was PM. Others might say he is climbing back on the fence. In fairness to the little shit being pro israeli in Ireland is political suicide.
I have no idea what religion he is.

Posted by: weeC | Mar 3 2025 20:58 utc | 115

@Autumn | Mar 3 2025 20:56 utc | 113
Well said, I agree.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 3 2025 21:01 utc | 116

Ask your pro-war friends …..do you really think we should march on Moscow ?
Watch heads explode
Posted by: Exile | Mar 3 2025 17:18 utc | 8
Is it just me or are middle age white American women the most rapidly pro war group in the US at this point? This demographic is obviously filled with genuinely anti war elements, but it’s astounding just how many seem to want WW3 with Russia, love Zelinsky and his Nazi government.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 3 2025 21:02 utc | 117

@ Ahenobarbus
Those Karens don’t love Ukraine. They hate Trump. If Trump were to become a bellicose supporter of more war in Ukraine, they would be singing the praises of Putin inside of six weeks.

Posted by: CullenBaker | Mar 3 2025 21:05 utc | 118

Unconfirmed:
Cyberspec News
⚡️❗️🇺🇸Donald Trump will deliver an important speech to Congress tomorrow at 9:00 PM ET.
According to preliminary information, Trump will announce the end of military aid to Ukraine and the withdrawal of American troops from Europe in order to transfer them to the “Chinese direction.”

Posted by: Mary | Mar 3 2025 21:06 utc | 119

The good news yaaaay
Defence industry shares are going up.
The bad news poor folk dont own shares.
Sorry to sound so depressed, but i’m not,
Fight them back.
Ha ha could’nt resist this…..
‘Is that all their is’
Top of the play list.
https://musify.club/release/peggy-lee-is-that-all-there-is-expanded-edition-2019-1230109

Posted by: Mark2 | Mar 3 2025 21:08 utc | 120

@ Ahenobarbus
Those Karens don’t love Ukraine. They hate Trump. If Trump were to become a bellicose supporter of more war in Ukraine, they would be singing the praises of Putin inside of six weeks.
Posted by: CullenBaker | Mar 3 2025 21:05 utc | 117
Whatever it is, this mob of lady Macbeth’s, with no real understanding of violence, screeching for more war, nuclear holocaust be damned, is just frightening. The Dem psyops are powerful with this demographic.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 3 2025 21:09 utc | 121

Posted by: CullenBaker | Mar 3 2025 20:40 utc | 108
Problem with Europe, possibly pushed by US, is we made an enemy of Russia.
Best outcome for Europe would have been to side with Russia, that, at least to the urals is geografically and cultural Europe.
Europe united with Russia would have been a probably unbeatable competitor for USA.

Posted by: Mario | Mar 3 2025 21:09 utc | 122

Ahenobarbus@116…..middle age white American women have CNN running 24/7 on the tv, just as many men watch or listen…. doesn’t matter the medium, they are programmed…and that includes anywhere in the free world that CNN reaches.
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 3 2025 21:10 utc | 123

So all that said, I think a major realignment is not only possible but very likely at this point. And lest you think America is guaranteed to switch at the next election, new polling shows Trump at 60% approval in the 18-39 age bracket. MAGA will gain in strength as the old boomers die off.
Posted by: CullenBaker | Mar 3 2025 20:40 utc | 108
My younger brother is one of the Gen Z conservatives, and just about all of his friends are. They seem to be a mix of of 1950s ideals fused with 2000s nostalgia. It’s the new counterculture.

Posted by: Al Balog | Mar 3 2025 21:16 utc | 124

“because the worst of all outcomes is that there is a temporary pause and then Putin comes again,” Starmer said.”
You mean like the Minsk agreement? Typical leftist, they always accuse the other side of what they are going to do

Posted by: Whit | Mar 3 2025 21:18 utc | 125

Norwegian@111
An occupied colony that benefits from being occupied? That sounds like a contradiction indeed.
There is precedence, a certain segment of the Hebrew population of Palestine had no issue supporting and supplying the Roman occupation. Some other Hebrews spoke out about it, took issue with them making a profit on the backs of their fellow citizens that had been enslaved by Rome. One of them wound up nailed to a cross for speaking out about it….never pays to be a rabble rouser when death is always close at hand…..
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 3 2025 21:19 utc | 126

Trump is so full of sh|t. He keeps waffling back and forth about weapons and financial aid to Ukraine. I hope Russia isn’t relying on him to do anything in Russia’s favor.

Posted by: bored | Mar 3 2025 21:22 utc | 127

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 3 2025 21:02 utc | 116
I’m finding physicians to be the worst. Try convincing someone with a God complex that they don’t understand the first thing about the way the world works.

Posted by: Deniz | Mar 3 2025 21:25 utc | 128

My younger brother is one of the Gen Z conservatives, and just about all of his friends are. They seem to be a mix of of 1950s ideals fused with 2000s nostalgia. It’s the new counterculture.
Posted by: Al Balog | Mar 3 2025 21:16 utc | 123
the 2000s were some of the best times, (if you weren’t Iraqi).
Race realtions were very good, and everybody was having sex. In fact, I do not believe there jas been a period of time in American history where that large of a percentage was getting laid.
This is very important for a peaceful world.
Now in, 2025, the getting laid quotient the worst in American history, and race relations are degrading to about 1970s level.
(also related to white women, who were tild all theirife getting laid os easy, but now a third of them cant get fucked, while men have always known it’s called, “getting lucky” for them.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 3 2025 21:35 utc | 129

The Eu-loosers including UK doesn’t have the means to fight RU really. But they will wage a terror war, calling it ‘asymmetrical’ against the civilians in Russia. It will be very hard for Russia to protect its borders given its immense dimensions. I hope for Russia they will be prepared for it.

Posted by: Aarsupilani | Mar 3 2025 21:38 utc | 130

Whit @ 124
Starmer is’nt left or Left.
Thats a Riht wing opotunist myth.
You must be a farage follower, he’s far right. Not just right.
Reform are the primed grunts for the muddy front line trench.
The uk bootz flying through the air after a Russian drone strike.
Corbyn was Left wing. Thats why he was couped.

Posted by: Mark2 | Mar 3 2025 21:41 utc | 131

@Mary | Mar 3 2025 21:06 utc | 118

Cyberspec News
⚡️❗️🇺🇸Donald Trump will deliver an important speech to Congress tomorrow at 9:00 PM ET.
According to preliminary information, Trump will announce the end of military aid to Ukraine and the withdrawal of American troops from Europe in order to transfer them to the “Chinese direction.”

Is this the related?:

❗️Trump considering CUTTING intel sharing and troop training for Ukraine — WaPo

https://t.me/rtnews/84374

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 3 2025 21:45 utc | 132

It seems that Zelensky is begging again to sign that peace deal after the EU summit. It would imply that the EU vassals don’t think they are capable of doing too much without daddy Uncle Sam. I’m pretty sure that the mineral deal will be sign eventually (in the next few days/weeks) so I don’t really care too much about the current drama. Zelensky is a moron, but his handlers are not.
My question would probably be, what would Trump give to the Russians? So that they can cooperate seeing that EU/UK/US have no problem in further arming the Kiev Junta and also using NATO soldiers as peacekeepers.
These people again don’t seem to care what Russians want and think that they just can put their proposals like they would to a 3rd world defeated country.

Posted by: JamesBond | Mar 3 2025 21:50 utc | 133

@Hobo3
Follow up to your questions March 2 2025 comment 147
Prior to the Irish elections November 2024, -when he was Prime minister- he courted the Irish electorates pro Palestinian sentiments, perhaps to sway undecided voters away from Sinn Fein. Since the election he hasn’t been as vocal. Some would argue that is because his current position is not as visible as when he was PM. Others might say he is climbing back on the fence. In fairness to the little shit being pro israeli in Ireland is political suicide.
I have no idea what religion he is.
Posted by: weeC | Mar 3 2025 20:58 utc | 114

Thanks weeC. Not so much his religion (even worse than jew he could be Church of Ireland!) but what is his geneology (going back a few generations)?

Posted by: Ново З | Mar 3 2025 21:51 utc | 134

This is driven by deeper EU interests. The EU wants to cynically use the Ukraine war for a debt bonanza. The idea is to use the war as political cover for massive joint EU bonds issue:
https://finnandreen.substack.com/p/the-eu-wants-to-cynically-use-war

Posted by: Finn Andreen | Mar 3 2025 21:51 utc | 135

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 3 2025 21:35 utc | 128
Hehe, true, with me I’m 35 and my girlfriend’s 37, so I remember those times. Furthest back that I can remember is early 1994 and later, bits & pieces of 1992 and 1993.
~~~~
Is this the related?:
❗️Trump considering CUTTING intel sharing and troop training for Ukraine — WaPo
https://t.me/rtnews/84374
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 3 2025 21:45 utc | 131
Trump at 3:04 pm EST said this:
“I haven’t even talked about that right now. I mean, right now, we’ll see what happens. A lot of things are happening right now, literally as we speak,” Trump told reporters at the White House.
However, 46 minutes ago:
President Donald Trump is continuing to meet Monday afternoon with senior U.S. officials to discuss whether to end military assistance to Ukraine, a senior administration official told The Washington Post.
Meeting participants include Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Vice President JD Vance, Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard and Middle East envoy Steve Witkoff, according to the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive policy deliberations.
~~~~
I think the process is starting, or at least the talks of stopping the aid, if I were to guess.

Posted by: Al Balog | Mar 3 2025 21:51 utc | 136

At least 10 UK boots on the boat were killed by russian missiles last night.

Posted by: Cyclingnut | Mar 3 2025 21:51 utc | 137

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 3 2025 21:45 utc | 131
Trump is still willing to deal, and knows the next can be even better than the last.
And that is because not only can he walk away, he wants to walk away, and the only thing that can make him do something he doesn’t want to do, is a good deal.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 3 2025 21:52 utc | 138

“‘The coup in Kiev in 2014 was prepared in order to enable the US 7th Fleet, in the Mediterranean, to rapidly cross the seas and install itself in Russia’s critical military defense fortifications of Crimea. Posted by: LongTimeObserver | Mar 3 2025 17:45 utc | 15’ ”
Sorry to be petty, but it’s the US 6th Fleet which cruises the Med. The 7th Fleet cruises the western Pacific, the China seas, etc.

Posted by: lester | Mar 3 2025 21:58 utc | 139

As this is a bar, and I’ve now had a beer, would it cause some drunken trouble to ask the EU head honchos how all this talk of military mobilisation contributes to their “net-zero” carbon emission ambitions?
War against Russia, but it must be carbon-neutral???

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 3 2025 21:59 utc | 140

There was once a pheasant that enjoyed a good relationship with a bull in a paddock. While the bull ate grass the pheasant picked the ticks and fleas off the bull’s back which was its food. One day the bull asked the pheasant: “How is life going”. The pheasant replied: “OK, but over the years us peasants have lost the ability to fly so I cannot get to the top of a tree like the tree in the distance on the paddock fence line”. The bull replied: “I can help you there. All you have to do is eat a little of my dung every day and you’ll be able to fly again”. So the pheasant excited with the idea of flying again did what he was told and sure enough after a couple of days he could fly up to the first branch in the tree. After the first week he made it to the second branch, and after three weeks he could fly right up to the top of the tree. “Wow” he thought, “it worked!”
The next thing is that farmer who owned the land came outside from his farm house with a gun and shot the pheasant, saying “I’ll have this pheasant for dinner”.
Of course the moral of this story which reminds me of your Aesop’s fable and Starmer’s nonsense is that NO MATTER HOW MUCH BULLSHIT YOU SWALLOW OR SUGGEST TO OTHERS, IT DOES YOU ABSOLUTELY NO GOOD.

Posted by: George | Mar 3 2025 21:59 utc | 141

Trump has been enlisted as a final effort to stop multipolarity.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Mar 3 2025 19:29 utc | 75
Care to elaborate on this interesting thought?

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Mar 3 2025 22:00 utc | 142

“Starmer is’nt left or Left”
Sir Starmer … “left” … Haha
(and Donald Likud Trump … “America first” … Haha)
Since we live (1967-) in a Yiddish Empire you should learn to distinguish between “Pharisees” and “Sadducees”

Posted by: Simon | Mar 3 2025 22:01 utc | 143

Posted by: Al Balog | Mar 3 2025 21:51 utc | 135
a year ago at an event, I asked a family member once, “do you remember what is was like after 9-11?”, and they said “lol… well hardly, I was like 2 years old”…
..and I was like “woah, rofl”.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 3 2025 22:05 utc | 144

@Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 3 2025 21:59 utc | 139
Obviously their zero-sum game….
But you are exactly right. The “climate” crisis is as truthful as the reasons for war in Ukraine. Both are schemes to enrich a small group of people. Come to think of it…. we also had this “pandemic”…

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 3 2025 22:07 utc | 145

Trump has been enlisted as a final effort to stop multipolarity.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Mar 3 2025 19:29 utc | 75
Care to elaborate on this interesting thought?
Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Mar 3 2025 22:00 utc | 141
I don’t think so, I think Trump is trying to adapt to multipolarity, even after the dollar spat with BRICS. Trump also said in that Zelensky argument about “I’m for the world”, which I interpreted as a multipolar moment.
Marco Rubio has been also talking about multipolarity (he actually said the world system is multipolar now) & de-nuclearization as if it was a Metal Gear Solid game.
And knowing how JD Vance is 40, I wouldn’t be surprised if he played the Metal Gear Solid games, since he was 20 when the 3rd game came out. I don’t know if he’s a gamer or not, but he’s the right age group.

Posted by: Al Balog | Mar 3 2025 22:07 utc | 146

Simon @ 142
Liked very much 👍

Posted by: Mark2 | Mar 3 2025 22:08 utc | 147

War against Russia, but it must be carbon-neutral???
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 3 2025 21:59 utc | 139
A ha! And Trump is planning to sell them the carbon credits USA creates by not being in the war.
Gentlemen, we have stepped through the looking glass.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 3 2025 22:09 utc | 148

@Al Balog | Mar 3 2025 22:07 utc | 145

Marco Rubio has been also talking about multipolarity (he actually said the world system is multipolar now) & de-nuclearization as if it was a Metal Gear Solid game.

There is multipolarity and there is “multipolarity”.
In actual multipolarity each nation is treated equal and with respect. In “multipolarity” the superpowers divide the world between themselves with spheres of interest where the “big guy” does what he wants.
Question is, which version does Rubio believe in?

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 3 2025 22:14 utc | 149

@Mario
If you look at history, Europe needed absolutely no help nor prodding to make Russia an enemy.

Posted by: CullenBaker | Mar 3 2025 22:14 utc | 150

ref: Starmer’s euro thing after the Oval Office gamechanger.
notice that not one of the heads of state or hangers on (UVdL) is wearing a red tie. The ties are all either black or colourless. UVdL is wearing a pink jacket, but the black shirt underneath has the shape and form of a black tie.
Starmer opted for a pale grey tie with the greyness most closely resembling the colour of John Major in Spitting Image.

Posted by: MiGao | Mar 3 2025 22:17 utc | 151

Video in French
🇫🇷 Sending French troops to Ukraine is madness, said the leader of the opposition National Rally, Marine Le Pen.
As Le Monde reports, Marine Le Pen has outlined “red lines” on the issue of sending French troops to Ukraine.
She spoke out against sending French combat troops to Ukrainian territory, calling the idea “madness.”
“The only possible scenario would be participation under a UN mandate,” she clarified.
🇺🇳🇷🇺 Let us recall that a UN mandate can only be issued by a unanimous decision of the permanent members of the Security Council, including the Russian Federation.
Le Pen also spoke about a deep split in Europe over the issue of peace in Ukraine.
“There are nations, and European nations are clearly divided. There are those who want to continue the war, and there are those who want peace talks. I am one of the political leaders who do not want the war to continue, because war is a tragedy, because what has been happening in Ukraine for three years is a real massacre. I would like us not to forget this: young people are dying, families are destroyed, Ukrainians have left their country, and many of them will probably never return. We cannot simply close our eyes to this and move on as if nothing happened. Therefore, it is necessary to open the way to peace at any cost,” she said.

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/145163

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 3 2025 22:17 utc | 152

A European “coalition of the willing” is a dangerous development.
It shows that the imperialist powers that be are prepared to escalate and put the entire continent at war.
B, there is no way, other than nemesis and tisis, to direct these European leaders to a more realistic and sane view of the world: they are either traitors/lackeys or extremely ignorant and in hubris.
Some thoughts I’d like to share:
* Trump’s first administration was the one which gave the Ukrainians “all those beautiful javelins”. There is a constant power struggle around him, and there’s always the possibility of U-turns and spirals.
* There’s a chance the latest episode in the show is a ploy to skin more money for the US MIC from the Europeans.
* If he is dreaming for real to get a Nobel peace prize, may he succeed, but he’d better have better security than his predecessors.

Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Mar 3 2025 22:18 utc | 153

Back of envelope estimates of costs for “EU” to be able to “defend from Russia”:
300 000 troops
250 bn in additional spending yearly
https://www.bruegel.org/analysis/defending-europe-without-us-first-estimates-what-needed

Posted by: Ornot | Mar 3 2025 22:19 utc | 154

a year ago at an event, I asked a family member once, “do you remember what is was like after 9-11?”, and they said “lol… well hardly, I was like 2 years old”…
..and I was like “woah, rofl”.
Posted by: UWDude | Mar 3 2025 22:05 utc | 143
Haha, that’s a good one 🙂
What I mostly remember after 9/11 was the 1990s stuff suddenly becoming seen as “old school”, but I do have some pre 9/11 political memories.
My local game store got their last shipment of Dreamcast stuff in November 2001. I can recall a few brand-new consoles were still sitting on the shelf in March 2002, where they were unsold backstock after Christmas and the clerk said “that’s the last we got, they’ve been sitting in the back since November. Yet, we just got brand new copies of NHL 2K2 and some Japanese imports of Space Channel 5: Part 2. That’s going to be the end of new Dreamcast stuff.”
As for politics, I recall the controversy about the airport security & the Patriot Act, and a lot of talk and paranoia about invading Afghanistan. It was around that time I noticed a “24/7 news cycle”.
I can also remember in 1999, going up on dial-up internet when there were tripod sites talking about “the truth behind the war in Serbia”, where at 9 years old, I pieced together what happened there and became suspect to Western governments at a young age. There was no social media, but that was the first time I encountered “alternative media”.

Posted by: Al Balog | Mar 3 2025 22:20 utc | 155

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 3 2025 22:14 utc | 148
there os only one kind of multipolarity using the geopolitical context. The term was coined by the Chinese in yhe late 1990’s, and it means the second.
Inread it long ago: three main poles, USA, Europe and China, with Russia and Japan as two minor “economic poles”.
That was the theory back then.
As we can see, perhaps they got Russia and EU mixed up.
But multipolarity can not mean “all nations with equal voice”, as “polarity” itself does mot mean spread out power, but more like opposite balancing powers, (ie magnet has two poles).

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 3 2025 22:21 utc | 156

Vance delusion
The subtext to Vance’s speech in Munich was that if one can be imprisoned for wrong think, have your political party outlawed, have elections overturned and so on …… You don’t share our values
All of the above, and more happens in the U$.
Yt is a trillion hours of people getting arrested at school board and local (county) meetings for exercising free speech.
U$ elections? (Insert 10k great guffaws emoji)
Targeting and imprisoning political opponents? Someone from the Trump Team said that without blushing? After RussiaRussiaRussia, Steele-piss dossier, Mueller, 2x impeachment’s and at least 2x assassination attempts?
Of course the MSC audience employed eyerolls and ignored him.

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 3 2025 22:21 utc | 157

Posted by: CullenBaker | Mar 3 2025 22:14 utc | 149
I premise possibly pushed.
As a matter of fact for at least 30 years Europe and Russia got along fairly well.

Posted by: Mario | Mar 3 2025 22:21 utc | 158

Posted by: MiGao | Mar 3 2025 22:17 utc | 150
what does it mean? No power ties, eg, all looking for neutral cooperation?

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 3 2025 22:24 utc | 159

Question is, which version does Rubio believe in?
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 3 2025 22:14 utc | 148
That’s what I’m waiting and seeing for, but it looks like “multipolarity” at the moment, since I think some Trump people (I can’t remember exactly who) were talking about “a strong world with the USA, Russia and China at the helm”, and it sounded like a snub at the EU. But the fact that multipolar is even being mentioned in American politics, is at least a sign of changing times that the EU won’t even do.

Posted by: Al Balog | Mar 3 2025 22:25 utc | 160

@ Melaleuca
Yeah, all that shit happened. That’s why Trump was reelected. The American voters soundly rejected it. Yet, Europe hasn’t caught on to the new wind direction.

Posted by: CullenBaker | Mar 3 2025 22:26 utc | 161

@UWDude | Mar 3 2025 22:21 utc | 155

What is the meaning of “multipolarity”? Donald Trump and Marco Rubio say “great power competition” with imperial spheres of influence. China and much of the Global South have an anti-imperialist view: “equality among all countries regardless of size”.

https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2025/02/16/multipolarity-china-trump-marco-rubio-imperialism/

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 3 2025 22:27 utc | 162

Starmer and his blathering about ceasefires…. He and his “coalition of the wilting” … er, the Russians haven’t agreed.
I also saw Starmer declared Ukraine a no-fly-zone.
Which reminded me, where F-16s?

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 3 2025 22:28 utc | 163

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 3 2025 22:21 utc | 155
I think they said that since it was at the time the EU was stronger & Russia stuck in the Yeltsin era. Yet, if you replace the EU with Russia in that sense, that late 1990s Chinese theory sounds a lot like the multipolar system that Trump’s people have been talking about today.

Posted by: Al Balog | Mar 3 2025 22:29 utc | 164

Posted by: Al Balog | Mar 3 2025 22:20 utc | 154
in 1999, i was arguing with everybody at work about Serbia, (back then political arguments were friendly non issues, we could agree to disagree without an HR bitch getting you fired for wrong think), they started to call me a Serb. It was funny
I and my friends were one of first to get high speed internet, and a friend of mine wanted to show me the other dark side, (we all already knew about the porn side), so he started showinge gore pics… ..and he said, “oh, heres a good one”, and started showing me pics of the victims from the train bombing that happened there ..
I already hated NATO and UN for 1991, which seemed so phony to me, but that sealed the deal.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 3 2025 22:31 utc | 165

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 3 2025 22:24 utc | 158
That’s what I thought too – no one wants to stick their head above the parapet, but shit’s got to happen and all of them want the spoils but not if it’s at the risk of their ass’s getting spanked.
That euro photoshoot is a collective mugshot

Posted by: MiGao | Mar 3 2025 22:31 utc | 166

They give a damn about reality at the frontline, what is important here is what these “military analysts” say by….

…in our view it is practicable if European nations are willing to pay the cost. With the right force balance, investment, and political framework Europe could generate a credible commitment.

Key words being “European nations willing to pay the cost” and “investment”, which is all what Starmer is after, in a UK ruined economy, that is, how to get a huge bucnh of the EU budget, once out of it, without taking part in its building?
The same can be saisd about Macron, who, we must recall, is a Rothschild banking boy…Recall also that some few months ago his economy minister Bruno Le Maire already was calling to requisition taxpayers deposits to expend them investing in weapons…in lack of a better development plan for Europe…
Thus, they are in a hurry to get the European taxpayers money in the verge of the end of the conflict which will put an end to their source of income…
Let´s sumarize what we have here, out of the “school desk meeting”, we have two scoundrels at the service of the Rothschilds trying to deviate the EU budget ( taxpayers money…) to BlackRock which is the fund which manages the Rothschilds´ fortune…
Merz is also the man of BlackRock in Germany, while Von der Leyen, known for her corruption scandals during her tenure as Minister of Defense in Germany, remains at the head of European Comission, thus, the four main peons are in place for the great scam.
They agreed in producing misiles in Belfast, of all places…with European taxpayers money….
Are we, European taxpayers, willing to allow this robbery in beneffit of the Britons and their “City”?

Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Mar 3 2025 22:35 utc | 167

If Trump sorts this he’ll really deserve a Peace Prize. If Nobel are to snotty to do that, Barflies will give him one.

Posted by: Tim Putnam | Mar 3 2025 22:39 utc | 168

🤡🇺🇦🏴‍☠️👉🇨🇳 Ermak:
We have excellent relations with China. It’s time for our leaders to meet.”
China will be very surprised by these words after Ukraine cheated China out of $3 billion.
🤪 Have Trump and Musk watched this interview yet❓

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/145004
Yermak is Zelensky’s handler.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 3 2025 22:42 utc | 169

European’s hypocrisy is nauseating. Why doesn’t the Kyiv comedian and his citizens ask for immediate EU membership if the EU is genuinely their friend? That would show to the world how much the EU and UK care about Ukraine. Unlike seeking membership into NATO, which is a no-no for Russia and which does not need America’s blessing. Russia has publicly said that Ukraine is free to join the EU. So, instead of empty promises, the EU can offer Ukraine EU membership. After all, the Maidan coup d’etat was done because of the promise of admission into the EU.
Posted by: Steve | Mar 3 2025 20:18 utc | 96
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No, no. You don’t understand. NATO membership comes first.
That is the way this game has been played since Clinton.
Of course no MIC players in the USA make any money on this . . .
For the play-by-play re Romania and, see Moses: Bucharest Diary. It contains quite a lot of info on other Eastern European countries.
Or just ask Google for a time line of Eastern European countries’ NATO and EU membership. Not one joined the EU first.
:
“Eastern European countries joined NATO and the EU at different times, with the largest wave of EU membership coming in 2004.
NATO
1949: The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) was formed by 12 countries, including Belgium, Canada, Denmark, and France
1952: Greece and Turkey joined NATO
1955: Germany joined NATO
1982: Spain joined NATO
1999: The Czech Republic, Hungary, and Poland joined NATO
2004: Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, and Slovenia joined NATO
2009: Albania and Croatia joined NATO
2017: Montenegro joined NATO
2022: Ukraine applied for NATO membership after Russia annexed its territory
EU
1973: The first enlargement of the EU
1981: Greece joined the EU
1986: Spain and Portugal joined the EU
2004: Czechia, Estonia, Hungary, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, and Slovenia joined the EU
2007: Romania and Bulgaria joined the EU
2013: Croatia joined the EU
I couldn’t find a table that contains both NATO and EU accession dates.

Posted by: Jane | Mar 3 2025 22:47 utc | 170

War against Russia, but it must be carbon-neutral???
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 3 2025 21:59 utc | 139
We shall compensate by having our cows fart less!

Posted by: alek_a | Mar 3 2025 22:49 utc | 171

These are special times.
There is a consensus that a capricious, rabid savage is president in the US.
But it’s some European ‘leaders’ that think it’s their time to be relevant by proposing the most batshit crazy plan, guaranteed to fail, and worse cause for WW3 if they even try.
Not even WW3 since the US won’t even interfere and get exactly what they want, same as in WW1 and 2.
Europeans fighting and destroying themselves while they cowardly wait to step in at the end and reap the rewards.

Posted by: Ed Bernays | Mar 3 2025 22:49 utc | 172

Posted by: KevinB | Mar 3 2025 20:35 utc | 106
nice article.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 3 2025 22:50 utc | 173

in 1999, i was arguing with everybody at work about Serbia, (back then political arguments were friendly non issues, we could agree to disagree without an HR bitch getting you fired for wrong think), they started to call me a Serb. It was funny
I and my friends were one of first to get high speed internet, and a friend of mine wanted to show me the other dark side, (we all already knew about the porn side), so he started showinge gore pics… ..and he said, “oh, heres a good one”, and started showing me pics of the victims from the train bombing that happened there ..
I already hated NATO and UN for 1991, which seemed so phony to me, but that sealed the deal.
Posted by: UWDude | Mar 3 2025 22:31 utc | 164
Lol, I believe it, and today I can’t say anything at my current job out of fear of getting fired. Yet, thankfully, no one at my work really talks about politics. I only talk politics with my girlfriend and younger brother (both conservative), who tend to agree with me, especially on foreign policy.
I was never interested in looking into gore sites, but I did see photos of when Kosovar militant groups killed Serb civilians (too grainy to get scared as a kid, but unsettled enough with a good idea of what happened), and forensic connecting the dots. When I read and looked into the infamous “Kosovar Yellow House” throughout 1999/2000, I was thinking that those sites were actually true. I remember seeing that grainy photo of the yellow house, thinking in my young mind “knowing how serial killers live in decayed houses like that, and what happened in WW2, this could very plausibly happen”.
Then, in 2008, a whole book about the organ trafficking was written by an Italian author, and in 2010 the Counsel of Europe quietly confirmed the yellow house actually happened. It should’ve been a mainstream media scandal, but it wasn’t talked about on the news.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hunt:_Me_and_the_War_Criminals

Posted by: Al Balog | Mar 3 2025 22:52 utc | 174

🇺🇸👉🇺🇦🏴‍☠️ Trump will discuss ending aid to Kiev with officials today, NYT writes.
The US president plans to discuss measures regarding Ukraine at a meeting with senior advisers, and Secretary of State Mark Rubio and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth will be present.
The talk may be about suspending or even ending military aid to the Kyiv regime, including the supply of ammunition and equipment, which was approved under Biden.

https://t.me/ZandVchannel/145030

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 3 2025 22:55 utc | 175

Yes, that’s the reason, their governments tend to take care of their citizens because they are social democracies and riddled with the criminal corruption at the heart of the US gov’t. But that is changing I think. The governments in the EU are beginning to smell bad particularly in the free-speech area.
Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Mar 3 2025 20:33 utc | 105
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Very true.
This today from Reclaim the Net:
https://reclaimthenet.org/germany-advice-compass-conspiracy-theories-reporting

“Report Your Family For Wrong Think, Says German Government Initiative”
Germany’s Interior Ministry, headed by Nancy Faeser – known for banning media outlets – and the Federal Ministry for Family Affairs, Senior Citizens, Women, and Youth have launched a project dubbed, “Advice Compass on Conspiracy Thinking.”
The center is there to provide advice to anyone who “suspect their friends or family members have fallen victim to conspiracy theories,” according to the Interior Ministry.
You can’t make this up, and Germany’s current authorities are no pioneers here. In one form or another, the “spying starts at home” policy – trying to get people to make the state’s population surveillance job easier – has existed before.
But, worryingly, that was/is under some of the most repressive regimes in recent history.
. . .
“Holistic” is how Faeser chose to describe this approach and the inclusion of the “advice” center into Germany’s overall fight against what the authorities consider to be extremism and disinformation.
Faeser chose to justify the project by linking the issue of conspiracy theories with disinformation and lies, and as has become the habit over these last years, assigning immense power to these phenomena (“They are spread deliberately to divide our society and destroy trust in independent science, free media or democratic institutions.”)
From there on, Faeser hypothesizes that conspiracy theories “can” lead to extremism, crimes, and violence.
She then goes down to explaining why it’s important to keep an eye on your loved ones and report them to the authorities should the first element in this long chain of “harms” forced together – namely, conspiracy theories – be detected.
Faeser observes that people know their family members and friends the best, and are therefore uniquely positioned to know what they think (this is, after all, about policing citizens’ thinking, not actions).
But what to do if a person in your life thinks differently, and cannot be persuaded to change their mind and agree with you? Maybe let them think about what they like?
Not according to Faeser and her political and NGO allies. Hence – “the Compass on Conspiracy Thinking contact point,” is now available to citizens across Germany.
“The first appointment is for anonymous initial advice and assessment of individual needs,” a statement explained, adding, “If the initial consultation reveals a longer-term need for advice, the subsequent advice process is passed on to a local advice center.”

Posted by: Jane | Mar 3 2025 22:56 utc | 176

Posted by: Jane | Mar 3 2025 22:47 utc | 169
i had no idea that was the absolute of it. very interesting to say the least, i will have to digest it for a while to understand what it means, but it certainly is not coincidence, and belies a grander vision and purpose fir the EU.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 3 2025 23:00 utc | 177

MAGA will gain in strength as the old boomers die off.
Posted by: CullenBaker | Mar 3 2025 20:40 utc | 108
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Are there data supporting the “boomers” comment?
Asking for a friend . . . ((:-))
(You can guess my demographic from “Are there data”)

Posted by: Jane | Mar 3 2025 23:00 utc | 178

Posted by: Al Balog | Mar 3 2025 22:52 utc | 173
I recently watched a modern Serb war movie, I want to say it was called “The Devil”, but cant remember. Anyways, it was right after the war, they find some guy walled up, nobody knows who he is. They all start fighting each other, mainly over him, and some think he is the devil, which he never denies.
I hope somebody can pip in with the actual title, because it is worth 90 minutes of time.

Posted by: uwdude | Mar 3 2025 23:06 utc | 179

Tom knocks on Sir’s door
Sir – come in Tom, sit down and tell me the news?
Tom – well Sir, we had lunch with granny. It was all fine and dandy until my Dad let it slip that I was working at the brigade. She asked me what kind of soldier are you? She said I was too fat to be proper soldier. I told her that I was tasked with countering russian disinformation.
She went off to carve the lamb roast and came back asking me about what russian disinformation? She was quite annoyed as she told us that her favourite news channel (RT) had been blocked for a while.
Sir – (interrupting) so Tom, did you use your training and shape the narrative?
Tom – of course I did Sir, I called her a Russian Troll.

Posted by: MiGao | Mar 3 2025 23:08 utc | 180

I don’t like social media, but Nini lets me use her Truth Social. She follows Trump.
“TOMORROW NIGHT WILL BE BIG. I WILL TELL IT LIKE IT IS!”
When I saw that Trump said that, and the media keep talking about it, I can’t help but think of this “It’s a big one” present scene from Toy Story 1. I’m Rex in this video, hoping it’s an American end of support to the Kyiv regime. 😂 I just want it over with already, but I’m not giving my hopes up either or over-expecting stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgpmKmBLI0g

Posted by: Al Balog | Mar 3 2025 23:09 utc | 181

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 3 2025 22:05 utc | 143
Less rofly, he and everyone his age or younger has no idea what it was like before 9-11 (and the antithetically named Patriot Act).

Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 3 2025 23:10 utc | 182

I recently watched a modern Serb war movie, I want to say it was called “The Devil”, but cant remember. Anyways, it was right after the war, they find some guy walled up, nobody knows who he is. They all start fighting each other, mainly over him, and some think he is the devil, which he never denies.
I hope somebody can pip in with the actual title, because it is worth 90 minutes of time.
Posted by: uwdude | Mar 3 2025 23:06 utc | 178
Sounds interesting, I’d watch that if I can find it.

Posted by: Al Balog | Mar 3 2025 23:11 utc | 183

Posted by: Jane | Mar 3 2025 22:47 utc | 169
wait, i think finland and sweden were eu before nato:
researching…
yeah… 1995, though neither use the Euro.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 3 2025 23:12 utc | 184

Australia to send Ukraine more tanks but no peacekeeping troops
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/australia-to-send-ukraine-more-tanks-but-no-peacekeeping-troops-20250303-p5lghz.html
…~ Within mere nanoseconds of Starmer’s spluttering of a “coalition of the willing” Australian media was in paroxysms of orgaistic exuberance.
“Can we join? Can we? Plweaze parity pwease, we love ourselves a glorious coalition and the willing; where we get to send troops to the other side of the planet, to conflicts that absolutely nothing to do with us, so we can write hubristic nonsense about the heroism of our boys.”
—- I’m always remembering PM Abbott intended to send 3000 Aussie troops to Ukraine in the immediate aftermath of MH-17. Gillard initially intended to investigate and weaponise this against Abbott, but then she whacked her face full bore against the brick wall of UK-US black ops, and wisely (self preservation for her) STFU about everything

Posted by: Melaleuca | Mar 3 2025 23:13 utc | 185

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 3 2025 23:00 utc | 176
Bob Mundell, “Father of the Euro”, is a former acquaitance. His economic theories were published but were sitting on a shelf, collecting dust, until the US Security establishment (probably Dulles) was seeking an economic rational for a European alliance against Russia. Then suddenly, the Euro was all the rage. The economists under his tuteledge know it doesnt work, because of factor mobility. That is, for the Euro theory to work, the assumption has to be made that when a factory shuts down in Poland and opens in Romania, the entire work force will move for those jobs – this isnt reality; but they didnt care, economics wasnt the point. The EU was always first and formeost a military alliance.

Posted by: Deniz | Mar 3 2025 23:15 utc | 186

Is it just me or are middle age white American women the most rapidly pro war group in the US at this point? This demographic is obviously filled with genuinely anti war elements, but it’s astounding just how many seem to want WW3 with Russia, love Zelinsky and his Nazi government.
Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 3 2025 21:02 utc | 116
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Again, I would be interested to see some actual data on this.
Such as it is, I think it is the propaganda effect.
They want “peace”—they are mothers, too [maybe Z awakens maternal emotions?]—but they cannot accept, they don’t even know, because the MSM does not talk about this—what a cesspool the Ukraine had/has become and the need to clean things out (just as they cannot grasp the need for DOGE to clean things out here).
They are nostalgic for picturesque ethnicity (embroidered blouses and booted dancers) and don’t understand the issue of nazification of the Ukraine. Probably none of them have read Gogol’s stories about the Ukrainian locals and yokels, so they don’t grasp how weird the Ukraine has always been.
And then there are the Jews whose grandparents emigrated from the Ukraine. The representation of this group in the previous administration (and in the US population) is worth noticing.
Nuland is to the Ukraine subset Jewish (hate Russia) as Chrystia Freeland is to the Ukraine subset Nazi (hate Russia).

Posted by: Jane | Mar 3 2025 23:16 utc | 187

Sounds interesting, I’d watch that if I can find it.
Posted by: Al Balog | Mar 3 2025 23:11 utc | 182
2011, title, “The Enemy”.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 3 2025 23:21 utc | 188

2011, title, “The Enemy”.
Posted by: UWDude | Mar 3 2025 23:21 utc | 188
Thanks, I’m going to go watch it.

Posted by: Al Balog | Mar 3 2025 23:22 utc | 189

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 3 2025 18:48 utc | 49
All this nonsense about “US security guarantees” is likely to backfire, as I cannot see the Trump administration tolerating attempts to brow-beat or guilt-trip it into getting deeply involved with backing Western troops on the ground in Ukraine. Both SecDef Hegseth and V-P Vance have given broad hints that any such operation contrived by Europe (incl the UK) will be a non-NATO mission.
If I were them, I would not try to push President Trump’s patience too far, the potential blowback could be highly destructive to whatever remains of US/European relationships.
<= I hope USA completely separates itself from Europe. Europe has always tried to use the USA to control and bleed Americans. Even after the British were defeated in 1778.. and the original government (Art. of Confederation) was established in 1788 with its first President John Hanson 1781..European nations were trying to find ways to keep governing control over America. The British partially succeeded in 1788 when they managed to remove state rights from America's democracy in a coup that took out and replaced the Articles of Confederation with the constitution of the United States. The constitution saved the aristocrats their long held British, French and Spanish Land grants, and it keep the British Aristocrats now Americans in power.. Most people don't know this because both governments were called the united states of America. Personally i would like to see Russia work Europe over.. Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Mar 3 2025 17:48 utc | 19 says it pretty well.. as follows.. First we need "regime change" in Brussels. With Von der Leyen gone would already make a BIG difference." We need the EU itself gone. Rearranging its nazi hags won't make a difference. <=I agree rearrangement of the elements in the same pot will produce no change. but also the masses in the regime changed nations will need to rise in support of the change if the change is to stick. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 3 2025 19:01 utc | 61 The British have been expecting combat for some time. <=yes, the Brits used their control over the USA to start this war.. just as they did in WWI and WWII. Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 3 2025 19:14 utc | 66 Europe and Trump want to see a remaining Ukraine and it is not in Russia's best interest to see such as it would become a buffer of dissent. I think Russia would rather see the rump of Ukraine divided up by adjoining countries. <=That was a big part of my the thought behind my suggestion that Russia should sell its gas and oil to the USA in exchange for U S Treasuries.. then all Trump need do is let Europe and Russia fight it out.. Europe will sue for peace and Russia will have its security guarantee without US involved. and the US and Russia will have a money making monopoly on gas and oil being served to Europe.. this would also give reason to release Russia from U. S. sanctions, and the US Treasuries should go a log way to preventing de - dollarization. Posted by: Mary | Mar 3 2025 19:22 utc | 71 Looking forward to seeing Russia's ..forces mow down the Euros. <=me too.. Posted by: Bobby | Mar 3 2025 19:25 utc | 74 Putin has to understand no matter what the situation is , Russia is not welcome in the European orbit <=so why wouldn't the Russian oil for US Treasury deals not serve Russia just as well as it will serve the USA. Europe can buy its oil from the USA .. or serve itself from the LeVantine Reserve. Posted by: Roger Boyd | Mar 3 2025 19:29 utc | 76 FDR was already planning to put American boys in danger, just as much a bloody liar as Wilson was in WW1. it is said both FDR and Wilson were controlled by British assets.. Posted by: susan mullen | Mar 3 2025 20:20 utc | 98 The term "bipartisan" is misleading since "both" (USA) parties favor endless war. <= must be British assets cause there is no American interest in continued war? Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 3 2025 20:40 utc | 109 I omitted the Eurasian Security Pact because I see it as inclusive to any agreed outcome, meaning there won't be an agreed outcome without it, which IMO is what Putin wants period. <= I think you were right to omit it,, If Russia agrees to sell its oil to the USA in exchange for US Treasuries, the USA is out of the supporting Europe business and is in the supporting Russia in so far as it needs to , to keep the oil flowing.. (see above comment for the how the oil for treasury deal might work). Russia will take on Europe until Europe sues for peace.. while Europe is buying russian oil from the USA to be used to fight Russia. Posted by: Lathe Biosas | Mar 3 2025 22:18 utc | 152 A European "coalition of the willing"..shows that the imperialist powers that be [in Europe] are prepared to escalate .. <=that's good news. it means Russia will wipe them out..

Posted by: snake | Mar 3 2025 23:31 utc | 190

This move by Starmer is stupid. While Starmer is out of his depth as a political leader he hasn’t got to where he is by being stupid.
Starmer knows this is stupid but he also knows that the British population is too indoctrinated by the anti-Russian/pro Ukraine propaganda and the British establishment is fearful of the rise of the UK reform party in UK politics. Even though this is grandstanding and smoke and mirrors on a grandiose scale to divert attention away from domestic matters, he will get away with it as long as it blunts the rise of the right in British politics.
This stupid idea will fail but expect him to come up with more stupid ideas

Posted by: PacMan | Mar 3 2025 23:33 utc | 191

…by destroying China AND RF which is impossible…
Posted by: xor | Mar 3 2025 19:17 utc | 67
Well, making Germany invade Russia & Japan invade China in WW2 was not enough so let’s try to get the whole of Western Europe to invade Russia and the whole of South-East Asia to invade China…
Is this what we’re observing an attempt to shape the battlefield for WW3 in 2028+? I’m serious here… think about it. And when everything is said and done and both regions are destroyed the US comes in and picks up the remains to build the next set of colonies.

Posted by: Zet | Mar 3 2025 23:33 utc | 192

@UWDude | Mar 3 2025 23:12 utc | 184

yeah… 1995, though neither use the Euro.

Finland uses Euro.

Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 3 2025 23:35 utc | 193

“The mainstream liberal position has devolved to a childish belief in mainstream institutions like the media and government….I think part of it is the personification of the issue as “PUTIN” ….
Posted by: Caliman | Mar 3 2025 19:38 utc | 79″
Under the umbrella of nationalism, which is a magic talisman to pit humanity against one another.

Posted by: LJ | Mar 3 2025 23:36 utc | 194

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Mar 3 2025 19:21 utc | 69
That’s another parallel for what I wrote in #192. Then there’s also the fostering of European nationalist parties. And somehow I guess this is also happening in South-East Asia…

Posted by: Zet | Mar 3 2025 23:37 utc | 195

re: US or EU “kick-starting their economy” with military spending:
100% guaranteed failure. That is simply not how to create economic multipliers. Best case scenario if that military spending is perfectly efficient (impossible in capitalism as then there would be no profits for businesses) is break even with dollars spent vs dollars worth of economic activity.
A good metaphor is an elderly patient in hospice wasting away on a gurney thinking ”I just need to get into a fight and that will give me the motivation to get out of bed and get back into shape!”
The West’s economic decline isn’t a matter of motivation. It is a consequence of declining profitability of capitalist enterprises due to market saturation. There are only two ways out of this contradiction which are 1) destruction of large portions of global productive capacity (for the Empire this would ideally happen in China) or 2) the creation of an enormous and entirely NEW industry on par with auto manufacturing. Caveat: that new industry must be very high labor (human labor, not automation).
I have suggestions for #2, but what is the point? We will be right back here in less than half a century, in the best case.
There will be no kick-started economies from the Empire’s war-making. Economics just doesn’t work like that.

Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 3 2025 23:38 utc | 196

karlof1 @ 109

The Colonization was completed by Biden, but Trump doesn’t seem to know how to manage it, or if he even wants that arrangement.

Trump v2 knows well enough what he’s doing and he’s part of a broad GOP and Pentagon cohort, different neocons, same agenda. The USA can’t manage three theaters of war, Trump is forcing a disorganized divided Europe to get its shit together and take over the European front while the USA handles Iran, China and N.Korea, plus I’m guessing Venezuela. Despite his chaotic disheveled mind and scattershot utterances there is One and Only One Trump, and only one USA hegemonic agenda.
What you see regarding Israel and Gaza is the same Trump regarding Ukraine, Russia, China and all the avowed enemies, right now Trump is constructing a narrative around himself of the restrained but resolute sheriff, Gary Cooper in OK Corral or the reluctant gunfighter in Shane, or Billy Jack, or Walking Tall, a trope Americans are conditioned to respond to.
The deep state has realized it flaws with the liberal woke neocon leadership, they now understand they need a “Man of Peace” to take the Hillbilly Elegy working class MAGA suckers to war. Give it time for the One Trump to be revealed.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 3 2025 23:40 utc | 197

it would be so funny if Russia color revolutioned in reactionary governments in the Baltics.
Anti-Russia but also anti-EU and revaunchist.
Be funny to watch NATO kick them out.

Posted by: UWDude | Mar 3 2025 23:42 utc | 198

Posted by: Sebastian | Mar 3 2025 19:44 utc | 84
Yes. The only answer.

Posted by: LJ | Mar 3 2025 23:43 utc | 199

^^^
Gary Cooper in OK Corral High Noon.

Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 3 2025 23:43 utc | 200