Starmer's Summit Gives Birth To A Mouse - It's Stillborn.
A mountain was in labour, uttering immense groans,
and on earth there was very great expectation.
But it gave birth to a mouse. This has been written for you,
who, though you threaten great things, accomplish nothing."
Sundays meeting of selected European leaders in London reminded me of the above Aesop fable.
Prime Minister Starmer's summit, called for in haste, has achieved nothing:
British Prime Minister Keir Starmer rallied his European counterparts Sunday to shore up their borders and throw their full weight behind Ukraine as he announced outlines of a plan to end Russia’s war.
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Starmer said he had worked with France and Ukraine on a plan to end the war and that the group of leaders — mostly from Europe — had agreed on four things.The steps toward peace would:
- keep aid flowing to Kyiv and maintain economic pressure on Russia to strengthen Ukraine’s hand;
- make sure Ukraine is at the bargaining table and any peace deal must ensure its sovereignty and security; and
- continue to arm Ukraine to deter future invasion.
- Finally, Starmer said they would develop a “coalition of the willing” to defend Ukraine and guarantee the peace.
“Not every nation will feel able to contribute but that can’t mean that we sit back,” he said. “Instead, those willing will intensify planning now with real urgency. The U.K. is prepared to back this with boots on the ground and planes in the air, together with others.”
It is far from certain whether Russian President Vladimir Putin will accept any such plan, which Starmer said would require strong U.S. backing. He did not specify what that meant, though he told the BBC before the summit that there were “intense discussions” to get a security guarantee from the U.S.
“If there is to be a deal, if there is to be a stopping of the fighting, then that agreement has to be defended, because the worst of all outcomes is that there is a temporary pause and then Putin comes again,” Starmer said.
Starmer said he will later bring a more formal plan to the U.S. and work with Trump.
That mouse the mountain gave birth to is stillborn:
- Trump has made clear that the U.S. will not agree to back any European forces in Ukraine.
- Zelenski, unless under more pressure, will not agree to a ceasefire without U.S. backing.
- Russia does not agree to any temporary ceasefire. It wants a new permanent security architecture for Europe and beyond.
- Russia does not agree to forces from NATO countries in Ukraine. It started the war to prevent that to happen.
- Russia will not agree to a rearming of Ukraine. Its declared aim is to 'de-militarize' the country.
- Russia is winning the war. Neither Starmer nor Europe have the means to prevent it from doing that.
What Starmer and Macron are trying to do now is the very same they had failed to do last week when the both made the pilgrimage to Washington DC:
Macron, Meloni and Starmer were among European leaders who spoke with both Trump and Zelenskiy over the weekend, as they tried to get the two men back to the table. They believe there’s still a narrow path to reviving the minerals deal that the presidents had planned to sign, giving the US leader a vested interest in deterring further Russian aggression against Ukraine.
They still want to win Trump's agreement to prolong the war. I doubt that this second attempt will be more successful than their first try.
One wonders how Starmer and Macron became delusional enough would even try that plot. One reason may be that get advised my 'military experts' like these:
Despite President Volodymyr Zelensky’s efforts, the United States has made it clear that it does not intend to offer Ukraine security guarantees or directly contribute to any forces supporting Ukraine after the imposition of a ceasefire. It therefore falls upon Europe to plan for such a force. This is a serious undertaking. Can European powers field such a force without hollowing out Europe’s ability to defend NATO’s borders, all while the United States potentially withdraws forces from the continent?While the length of front and the size of Russian ground forces may give the impression that the task is infeasible, in our view it is practicable if European nations are willing to pay the cost. With the right force balance, investment, and political framework Europe could generate a credible commitment.
There is nothing fantastical about a European mission in Ukraine.
Watling and Kofman, the authors of the above, call for the deployment of three(!) European brigades to Ukraine:
Given the significant degradation in Russian force quality over the course of the last three years of fighting, the initial force deployed could be as few as three combat brigades, or their equivalents.
Since the start of the war the Russian forces in Ukraine have more than doubled in size. Russia is now producing more missiles and drones than ever before. Its soldiers have gained valuable experience. How can this be seen as a 'degradation in Russian force quality'?
Ukraine itself has deployed some 100 brigades in the war and Russia about twice that many.
How three inexperienced multinational brigades from western Europe could in any way effect that balance is way beyond me.
Is there any way to direct these people to a more realistic and sane view of the world?
Posted by b on March 3, 2025 at 17:00 UTC | Permalink
next page »Keir Starmer stands, a man of words,
At a summit where silence stirs,
His voice, a tremor, caught in air,
Stammering hopes that vanish there.
The leaders' eyes, a hollow stare,
As promises fall, too light to bear,
His speech, a falter, thin and frail,
Like a ship caught in an endless gale.
A stillborn mouse, unnoticed, sprawled,
Its tiny body, limp and mauled,
A symbol small, of plans gone wrong,
Of future dreams that don’t belong.
Keir stammers, searching for the thread,
But every word is misled,
A tangled mind, a broken path,
The summit's whispers echo wrath.
In the quiet, the mouse remains,
A dead weight of forgotten gains,
And Keir, the man who hoped to lead,
Fumbles in his desperate need.
A summit failed, a moment lost,
And still, the mouse pays the cost.
Posted by: GPT_ | Mar 3 2025 17:06 utc | 2
"Is there any way to direct these people to a more realistic and sane view of the world?"
Apparently not. They're rabid dogs that have to be put down. If the US finally is cutting ties with the Euro-shithole (not a garden, not even a jungle, just an abandoned lot overgrown with scraggly weeds), Russia then needs to cut it off completely and finally let it die out once and for all.
Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Mar 3 2025 17:08 utc | 3
- It seems "Europe" is still in denial about the facts on the ground in the kraine. the european elites still have make public pivot towards a recognition that the war in the Ukraine has been lost.
- First we need "regime change" in Brussels. With Von der Leyen gone would already make a BIG difference.
Posted by: WMG | Mar 3 2025 17:10 utc | 4
Starmer didn't mention the Opt-Out clause (Article 5-Z) where the rest of the sovereign European countries can stand back while Grate Britain sends troops and planes against Russia.
I guess the Mighty Starmer of 33% vote, yet majority of seats, is going to test his popularity.
Posted by: kupkee | Mar 3 2025 17:14 utc | 5
As I've said many times before the Euro leadership lives in an ideological prison as did the US leadership until this version of Trump. Reality brings no promotions only ideological purity and, to be blunt, mediocrity. It's not that these guy won't reason, they can't beyond throwing elbows to get ahead.
The idea has always been, for Europe, to be part of the Western Roman Empire reborn in Washington. They lobby very hard for this in Washington and have succeeded to large extent through funding "think tanks" (i.e., propaganda organs). This obsession with extending the Western Empire into the East is, from a realist point of view, silly and we all know they will fail. At the corners of course are the grifters who harvest money from all the "aid" that may or may not go to Kiev. At the realist level its a con from beginning to end. The problem for the world is that the Euro public is exceedingly respectful of authority unlike us Yanks.
Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Mar 3 2025 17:17 utc | 7
Ask your pro-war friends …..do you really think we should march on Moscow ?
Watch heads explode
Posted by: Exile | Mar 3 2025 17:18 utc | 8
Trump said something new on Truth Social 50 minutes ago. Woooo 🤚😮✋
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/114099480566604857
Quoted:
"This is the worst statement that could have been made by Zelenskyy, and America will not put up with it for much longer! It is what I was saying, this guy doesn’t want there to be Peace as long as he has America’s backing and, Europe, in the meeting they had with Zelenskyy, stated flatly that they cannot do the job without the U.S. – Probably not a great statement to have been made in terms of a show of strength against Russia. What are they thinking? https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-zelenskyy-starmer-trump-b025877c40ffe0ddf2a92adad1715231
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Posted by: Al Balog | Mar 3 2025 17:29 utc | 9
This prancing on a stage dressed in military uniform suits Oberstleutnant Starmer because it paints him as a leader or statesman in the international arena, compensating for his incompetence, woeful unpopularity and general failure to do anything he promises. It also moves UK taxpayer cash to the MIC, justifying his neoliberal budget priorities and abusive trampling on civil rights. Finally, and most importantly, as a dyed in the wool Zionist, Starmer is happy to distract attention and outrage over UK support for genocide and Israeli aggression in Lebanon and Syria.
Posted by: Tom Paine | Mar 3 2025 17:29 utc | 10
RE: “Is there any way to direct these people to a more realistic and sane view of the world?”
Posted by b on March 3, 2025 at 17:00 UTC | Permalink
No.
Regarding Russian vitriol hatred, it’s baked into the DNA and passed from generation to generation.
My question is:
Why are people expecting a realistic & sane view of the world when it’s very core, it’s very essence is racist?
What’s realistic & sane about racism? Supremacy?
Just suggesting to quit treating the symptoms & effects.
They can’t be “cured” only relegated to a locked asylum till they die off. The root has not been pulled out & incinerated.
Useless to try and make sense out of an illness like racism.
Racism is what’s charging their insanity, lack of reasonable actions/choices, hostility. It’s not power, money, prestige, position, envy or greed. Pure racism fuels them to the depths of self destruction even.
It’s a sickness.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 3 2025 17:33 utc | 11
In response to
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Isn't it funny how suddenly UK is all European again?
Posted by: SOS | Mar 3 2025 17:15 utc | 6
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Thanks for the perspective.....BREXIT....where?
Is it going to be the old country against the new country?....LOL!
Maybe its old money against new money, eh?
Reuters posting headline has been updated to be
UK says several proposals for Ukraine ceasefire on table after France floats one-month truce
4 hours ago the headline was
UK, France propose partial one-month Ukraine truce
Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 3 2025 17:37 utc | 12
The secret plan seems to be working and the trap for Mr. Donald John Trump (DJT) is widening. Shall he turn the other cheek? Interesting times.
Posted by: pepe | Mar 3 2025 17:38 utc | 13
"Posted by: pepe | Mar 3 2025 17:38 utc | 13"
I get the feeling that Trump is more a cheekbuster, not a cheek turner.
Posted by: morongobill | Mar 3 2025 17:43 utc | 14
In the interest of keeping track of the facts, and trying to apportion the blame in the Ukraine debacle, we re-posting an article from2019 by the Italian journalist Murizio Blonded dealing with the events of 2014.
Well before 2014, the Russian side obviously made huge miscalculations when Lenin and later Khrushchev, for misplaced political calculations, assigned the Donbas and Crimea to the Ukraine gubernatorial province – not thinking of the possible consequences down the road. But the Russians seem to have swallowed their pride and accepted the loss, which was somewhat attenuated by certain leasing arrangements with Ukraine.
But here comes the United States who, in its hubris, thought they could corner a wounded animal and actually take possession of the historically Russian outposts in Crimea. The coup in Kiev in 2014 was prepared in order to enable the US 7th Fleet, in the Mediterranean, to rapidly cross the seas and install itself in Russia’s critical military defense fortifications of Crimea. – An outright act of war, to which Putin’s team responded magisterially, thus avoiding a nuclear war.
It was the United States who, not satisfied with the attempted barbarian attack, continued to supply the helpless Ukrainians with arms, munitions, intelligence, training, money, and political cover to continue their assaults on Russian-ethnic areas. Thus, it is 100% the United States who is the criminal party here.
Unfortunately, after some initial successes by the Ukrainians, in the end this resulted in a total loss for the naïve Ukrainians: loss of territory, loss of its best men, economic destruction, and almost the loss of statehood. And now, the same United States, just like in Vietnam and Afghanistan, got tired of accepting their own losses and the Ukrainian disaster, and in utterly hypocritical… (more than hypocritical) is now calling on Ukraine to just accept this historical disaster and feed their still-warm corpses to the wolves.
What makes this even more of a nightmare is that what used to be a defeated Russia on the shores of the Black Sea, prior to 2014, these events have empowered Russia to go further and eye territories beyond their wildest dreams – to take over Odessa, Transdnistria, Moldova, etc. Remember Lavrov’s sinister words about their claim to Moldova – part of the Romanian national body since time immemorial, speaking 100% the Romanian language, who want to re-align with its Mother nation. The same holds for Georgia, Armenia, and the Baltic states: small but historically independent principalities/nations who do not want to be part of the Imperial Russia. And who is going to defend them all? The bankrupt Trumptards? – No. Of course not.
This is not about peace. This is about the U.S. owing many apologies and huge reparations, to the poor and deceived Ukrainians rather than stealing the last resources of a nation they led into near-fatal error.
Posted by: LongTimeObserver | Mar 3 2025 17:45 utc | 15
GPT_ | 2
Wow thanks for that poem. It's very good and bang on.
Posted by: dontflayme | Mar 3 2025 17:46 utc | 16
RE: “UK, France propose partial one-month Ukraine truce”
Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 3 2025 17:37 utc | 12UK,
Normally I’d laugh & giggle, then yawn and grab a beer at this.
But since it’s so obviously stupid, guessing something else behind it. Like they think this is an “opening proposal”…
Like they can see Russia laugh, then come back with “ok…2 month Truce then” ect… so they can’t be accused of “not wanting peace” anymore.
Such childish narratives & optics.
Guess it keeps traffic going on “X”…
Posted by: Trubind1 | Mar 3 2025 17:48 utc | 17
The problem isn’t just that those advising are deluded it’s also that the population is similarly deluded
Posted by: Sharp elbow | Mar 3 2025 17:06 utc | 1
I'd postulate that the people holding the levers of power both in the U.S. and in Europe care not one whit what the actual native citizens think.....but if the PtB insist on supporting Ukraine, they will fail miserably and hopefully that will be the end of NATO. For the taxpayers in the U.S., an additional benefit might be the abandonment of military bases in and around Europe....
Posted by: Giuseppe | Mar 3 2025 17:48 utc | 18
WMG | Mar 3 2025 17:10 utc | 4
"First we need "regime change" in Brussels. With Von der Leyen gone would already make a BIG difference."
We need the EU itself gone. Rearranging its nazi hags won't make a difference.
Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Mar 3 2025 17:48 utc | 19
I was going to point out that Starmer and Macron are completely foolish to try this if the plan is to push Trump towards their position. They really don't get Trump's psychology. He said No, and it's a definitive No. Coming back asking for the same 10 days later will just make him angry and he will lash out at them just like he did at Zelensky (and he might have done this, in private, during their meetings last week).
Then Al Balog | Mar 3 2025 17:29 utc | 9 just posted Trump's first public reaction at this nonsense, showing how close to the truth my gut feeling was.
Posted by: Clueless Joe | Mar 3 2025 17:50 utc | 20
- Trump has made clear that the U.S. will not agree to back any European forces in Ukraine.- Zelenski, unless under more pressure, will not agree to a ceasefire without U.S. backing.
- Russia does not agree to any temporary ceasefire. It wants a new permanent security architecture for Europe and beyond.
- Russia does not agree to forces from NATO countries in Ukraine. It started the war to prevent that to happen.
- Russia will not agree to a rearming of Ukraine. Its declared aim is to 'de-militarize' the country.
- Russia is winning the war. Neither Starmer nor Europe have the means to prevent it from doing that.
The logic of our host's post is as valid as these premises are in fact.
As to the first, strictly speaking, Trump is making it clear that he expects Europe to pay for troops. I am not so sure that means Trump intends to stop the decades long intelligence support (including his first presidency.) It is not clear that the president who boasted of assassinating Soleimani (and supposedly wanted to bomb Iran at one point) is truly committed to not risking major land wars. He's remarked on the peril of WWIII (meaning a nuclear exchange,) but Trump is unpredictable. In short, probable I think but not certain.
As to the second, as useful as the puppet image is in assessing so much of the behavior of client regimes is, it is still true that people like Zelensky are not literally puppets. Puppets can easily be forced to act out killing themselves. Real people, not so much. Further, the really serious pressure on Zelensky is still via the US role in providing intelligence. Speculations about Trump really wanting to get out of Ukraine is so far just that. In short possible but is it really probable that anyone wants to destabilize Ukraine for Zaluzhniy or Poroshenko or worse?
As to the third, a world security agreement is very high bar indeed. It is unclear why Putin wouldn't/shouldn't prioritize a Ukrainian settlement first. But for the US to wait on a global settlement satisfactory to itself, leaving Ukraine as a postscript or addendum to a giant understanding means continuing the war until...the First of Octember? In short, not as probable, not for peace soon.
As to the fourth, I can't read Putin's mind, nor is it clear how relevant, or who is relevant, other leaders in Russia are. In short, probable, but not certain.
As to the fifth, the implicit premise here is that the US and its NATO junior partner, can accept defeat of the war on Russia. I lack to the telepathic powers to pronounce on the probability or improbability of this premise.
As to the sixth, currently the balance of forces are against a quick end to the war. Our host tells us that Ukraine has about a hundred brigades, Russia about twice that. This is not enough, so far as I can tell. An attrition strategy aimed solely at personnel is neither quick nor cost-free nor is there any way at all to predict a collapse. I'm not even sure such a strategy can even work. In short, improbable that this will soon terminate the war, however much one may hope.
Our host cites this.
Can European powers field such a force without hollowing out Europe’s ability to defend NATO’s borders, all while the United States potentially withdraws forces from the continent?The thing is, there is no significant threat against NATO's borders. The answer therefore is yes. That is why the conclusion that it wouldn't necessarily be beyond so-called NATO. And that's true even if the proposed numbers are absurd. (I read this as BS designed to sell the policy, with the intention of putting in larger numbers.)
There is of course the issue of victory (by either party) getting out of hand, escalating into nuclear exchanges. I suspect the only US guarantee NATO really wants is a nuclear guarantee. As to that, Trump advocates increased nuclear arms, exempting as I recall nuclear armaments from Hegseth's demand for 8% smaller military spending increases/de facto cuts. Also, Trump has consistently rejected nuclear arms agreements and intensified military threats such as abrogating INF.
The war on Russia is neither realistic nor sane, and never has been. Asking when realism and sanity will set in is satisfying rhetoric. But I'm not sure it's very useful analysis.
Posted by: steven t johnson | Mar 3 2025 17:51 utc | 21
The Establishment Narrative just won't die in Europe as it gets continually boosted by elites. Crooke in his chat with Napolitano today summed up that elite's delusion: They want the conflict to continue until Russia is defeated and they hope to bring the Outlaw US Empire in to make that happen. Of course, Trump has already said NO to that and more. The only military force in NATO outside the Empire's big enough to make any difference is Turkey's, but the Turks aren't invited to these European confabs and Erdogan's answer would be the same as Trump's--NO.
Russia needs to continue the SMO for three main reasons: 1, The SMO's goals aren't fulfilled; 2, More Ukraninan defeats are required to get Zelensky removed; 3, SMO success is required to shut up European elites and hopefully prompt the dissolution of NATO/EU, which also seems to be a Team Trump goal. Russia is very close to satisfying all three reasons and needs to finish the job.
As for the dysfunction of Europe's political systems, elite dominated political parties need to be sidelined by populist People's Parties promoting anti-war social-worker policies. With their parliamentary proportional representation arrangements, I don't see any other way. The need for media support for such activity is clear.
For the moment, its essential that the peoples of England, France and Germany voice their opposition to any escalation by their nations in Ukraine as it's clear their elites are drunk on their propaganda and disdain the likely outcome of what they want to do.
Just to show how delusional European politicians can be, French PM François Bayrou declared in parliament this afternoon that "Europe is strong and does not realise it".
Our european GDP, he said, along with that of the UK, is ten times greater than that of Russia. Our armies, along with those of the UK, have 2,5 million professionnal soldiers, 25% more than Russia. We have 3000 planes in our Air Forces, that's double the USA and double Russia.
Wha
Posted by: Shahmaran | Mar 3 2025 17:57 utc | 23
pepe @ 13
Whoever digs a hole and scoops it out falls into the pit they have made. The trouble they cause recoils on them.
Not too clear yet for whom the trap is set. Time will tell.
Posted by: Tango Victor | Mar 3 2025 17:58 utc | 24
A plan but not a peace plan
It's basically, 'keep the war going until Ukraine finally collapses'
It would have been great to have some neutral country to get involved to give Ukraine (or possibly Russia) a gracious way to bow out, otherwise this war will run its full course with maximum casualties.
Posted by: Christian J Chuba | Mar 3 2025 17:59 utc | 25
B: "One wonders how Starmer and Macron became delusional enough would even try that plot."
Everyone knows Russia won and that the US is going to pull out.
So, this manuevering is to establish a narrative framework that asigns blame to Trump.
Posted by: Markw | Mar 3 2025 18:12 utc | 26
CrossTalk Bullhorns: Zelensky's Disgrace
https://www.rt.com/shows/crosstalk/613569-zelensky-peace-agenda-unsigned-deal/
"...Is peace still possible?
CrossTalking with Mark Sleboda and George Szamuely."
Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 3 2025 18:12 utc | 27
It is essential that European nations are so willing to finance Ukraine.
Nobody in Europe is against that.
But I dont ubderstand why.
Posted by: vargas | Mar 3 2025 18:12 utc | 28
Minsk3
Radical EU objectives are 2000 miles of lines of communication they can’t fill.
US attractive quagmire is 6000 miles too far.
Why not just give up on plundering Russia?
Posted by: Paddy | Mar 3 2025 18:17 utc | 30
Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 3 2025 17:53 utc | 22
I don't think the public in Europe is that interested in a populist revolt. My impression of Europeans as a whole is that they respect authority far more than the American people. Remember their media is a total extension of the elite leadership and the people, in general, trust their mainstream media even though it's clearly dominated by Western intel services. This may change in the years to come but ONLY when the Ukrainians are decisively defeated on the battlefield which, to me, still seems far off. We have to understand that ordinary Ukrainians tend to be fanatically ideological and deeply racist more than others peoples in that part of the world.
Personally, I think Russia should go much harder against the infrastructure and against the port of Odessa. The Russian strategy for this war appears weak and I'm not sure why. Perhaps because I'm more familiar with how the US fights wars, i.e., against civilians.
Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Mar 3 2025 18:18 utc | 31
Posted by: Tom Paine | Mar 3 2025 17:29 utc | 10
Right on the button.
Posted by: Jams O'Donnell | Mar 3 2025 18:19 utc | 32
News speak.......
War is peace.
Attack is defence.
ect ect.
As Tom payne says @ 10.
Today starmer says he's going to use the increase of defence spending to kick start Uk economy.
Share prices in the defence industry today have rocketed.
Thats sick blood money.
Thats stealing from the uk poor to line the pockets of the rich. Shamelessly capatalising on the vonrable. Just like they did with the virus and vaccine.
Four uk political partys...
Not one sane oposition.
Posted by: Mark2 | Mar 3 2025 18:19 utc | 33
A possible future, outlined by Thomas Röper:
It is no coincidence that Putin recently invited Western - and specifically US - companies to invest in Russia again and specifically mentioned investments in the joint development of natural resources such as rare earths. Such projects require huge investments in the billions and the Russian view is that they see such investments in Russia as fair compensation for losses incurred.
Putin is cleverly proceeding here by offering the USA a win-win situation in which the USA will not officially pay compensation to Russia, but the compensation will come in the form of investments from which the US companies will also profit.
The fact that the Russian government sees a connection between the sanctions and the investments is shown by the fact that it was also said that all US sanctions against Russia must be lifted before such investments can begin. In addition, Putin also explicitly mentioned the natural resources in the new Russian regions of Donbass, which means that the USA must first recognize these areas as Russian, otherwise its companies cannot invest there.
It is safe to say that Russia will write into these investment agreements that any benefits for US companies will be cancelled if the US imposes new sanctions. If new sanctions are introduced, US companies would then lose the billions they have invested in the development of these natural resources, which can be seen as a kind of insurance against new US sanctions.
More at:
Posted by: Jams O'Donnell | Mar 3 2025 18:21 utc | 34
The Establishment Narrative on Ukraine has been internalized by a significant segment of the western publics. They reflexively believe the war in Ukraine is a struggle for "self-determination", and they uncritically accept and agree with the demonization of Putin ( and Russia Federation). Related, expression of divergent information, even if factually accurate, is casually dismissed as enemy "propaganda." Anecdotally, persons I know who twenty years ago needed no convincing to understand the Iraq war, for instance, was a criminal enterprise based on crude lies, lost the capacity for critical thinking somewhere during 2014, and are resentful in response to any attempts to fill in the gaps of their partial understandings. In particular, the acceptance of propaganda tropes demonizing Putin/Russia, when previously such narrative management applied to others (Hussein, Ghaddafi, etc) was easily understood as manipulative and condescending.
Posted by: jayc | Mar 3 2025 18:23 utc | 35
@28
Europe Union social welfare is bankrupt, no resources, uncompetitive working population to keeping everyone fed.
Pillaging Russia is the answer. They use Trump Derangement Syndrome to get US welfare state on board, now that they can’t use Hunter
Posted by: paddy | Mar 3 2025 18:26 utc | 36
@28
Europe Union social welfare is bankrupt, no resources, uncompetitive working population to keeping everyone fed.
Pillaging Russia is the answer. They use Trump Derangement Syndrome to get US welfare state on board, now that they can’t use Hunter
Posted by: paddy | Mar 3 2025 18:26 utc | 37
Eurotards seems so afraid of peace... why ? EU will be the first benefiting from ending this mess.
They already looked like clowns for so long, what worse could happen ? People not voting for them ? As if they could care , most of them are not elected anyway ...
And now they're daydreaming about doing their own NATO (with blackjacks and hookers): this is exactly what DJT wanted ! Selling moar weapons to the eurotards without "article 5". It's the usual MAGA scheme :"I will {insert your shit here} in $country and $country will pay for it."
Sometimes, I think the Mexican cartels will do a better job at ruling Europe than the EU ... at least they didn't pay for the wall.
Posted by: Savonarole | Mar 3 2025 18:26 utc | 38
Posted by: Markw | Mar 3 2025 18:12 utc | 26
>>>>
An economic meltdown should follow if secret plan is fully executed. Let's start with a contraction of Q1 and then let's reconvene and reassess the full impact of those actions.
Posted by: pepe | Mar 3 2025 18:28 utc | 39
Is there any way to direct these people to a more realistic and sane view of the world?
Posted by b on March 3, 2025 at 17:00 UTC | Permalink
Put their children on the firing line first.
Until they have skin in the game they couldn't care less.
Posted by: jpc | Mar 3 2025 18:29 utc | 40
The SMO ends in one of four ways.
1. Kiev wins it all (not possible).
2. Russia wins it all (most likely).
3. Negotiated Peace deal (slightly possible).
4. A big bright flash and mushroom cloud (still possible).
Posted by: Matt | Mar 3 2025 18:31 utc | 41
@jpc | Mar 3 2025 18:29 utc | 39
Put their children on the firing line first.Remind me, how many children does Macron have?
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 3 2025 18:31 utc | 42
The arch Zionist, and Neo-Nazi supporter English PM Starmer - has created a 100 year partnership Plan with the Neo-Nazi dictatorship of Ukraine.
Its way past time for a full blown revolution in Britain - as this evil man and his government will continue to drain the public finances until they are all but empty.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 3 2025 18:32 utc | 43
Post not accepted - trying again minus link:
A possible future:
"It is no coincidence that Putin recently invited Western - and specifically US - companies to invest in Russia again and specifically mentioned investments in the joint development of natural resources such as rare earths. Such projects require huge investments in the billions and the Russian view is that they see such investments in Russia as fair compensation for losses incurred.
Putin is cleverly proceeding here by offering the USA a win-win situation in which the USA will not officially pay compensation to Russia, but the compensation will come in the form of investments from which the US companies will also profit.
The fact that the Russian government sees a connection between the sanctions and the investments is shown by the fact that it was also said that all US sanctions against Russia must be lifted before such investments can begin. In addition, Putin also explicitly mentioned the natural resources in the new Russian regions of Donbass, which means that the USA must first recognize these areas as Russian, otherwise its companies cannot invest there.
It is safe to say that Russia will write into these investment agreements that any benefits for US companies will be cancelled if the US imposes new sanctions. If new sanctions are introduced, US companies would then lose the billions they have invested in the development of these natural resources, which can be seen as a kind of insurance against new US sanctions."
Thomas Röper - at: anti--spiegel-ru.
Posted by: Jams O'Donnell | Mar 3 2025 18:33 utc | 44
Putin-Trump Summit Being Expedited Now - CNN
https://tass.com/world/1921437
As with Russiagate, will we again be treated by msm to 'Putin's slave Trump meets his master' etc?
Democrats Jump To Defense of Zelensky and Ukraine War
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/03/03/rheu-m03.html
"In response to Trump's public humiliation of the Ukraine president at the White House, congressional Democrats are reaffirming their support for escalating the US-NATO war with Russia."
Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 3 2025 18:36 utc | 45
pepe | Mar 3 2025 18:28 utc | 38
When did the top Nazis now the war was lost and began plotting their exist strategy?
Likewise, euro elite know Ukraine is lost, but need a convenient scape goat to cover their trail.
We will walk and focus on the Americas, while W Europe will have a firm demarcation that will help pull their political union tighter.
They'll say Trump caused the loss while we'll say it's their fault in the first place. Regardless, it's important to look past the looming endless rhetoric and focus on reality.
We'll do fine but Europe is gonna suck. That wonderful lifestyle they've enjoyed for 80 years is going bye bye as social services are eliminated and resources are devoted to their MIC.
Posted by: Markw | Mar 3 2025 18:40 utc | 46
US has accepted they lost the war at russia. That's one point.
They have accepted that due the catastrophic failure of weaponizing the Taler ..eh.. Dollar, they have to cut costs and restore trust. The second point.
And in that looming trilateral world order they must erase EU and dump down France and especially GB to its knees. Third point.
"London City" as a major competitor in finance issues must also be melt down. fourth point.
So what could be better to get rid of NATO, EU etc.. solve all topics above ... by let them destroy themselves?
That is exactly what happens.
Posted by: ableman | Mar 3 2025 18:40 utc | 47
The real reason the DA of Kiev can't agree to a deal with Putin is his fear of the Right Sector. it's they that would end his life in no time wherever he may hide were he to sign a deal with Crimea and Donbas in Russian hands, it was the Right Sector together with Boris Johnson's message from the US masters that forced the green T-shirt to scrap the Istanbul deal and fight.
Trump & Vance must be unaware of the influence the Right Sector has and the power it possesses in Ukraine only because it kills anyone opposing them, they are deeply nationalistic, they hate both the Russians and the Americans in equal measure and worship Bandera the man that fought the Red Army to turn Ukraine free from Russia, sadly on the side of the Adolf's murderers.
Posted by: Baron | Mar 3 2025 18:41 utc | 48
Russian troops - are already battle hardened as the saying goes, with experience of real fighting in the field - this will give them the upperhand against any joint European attack, against Russian forces in Ukraine if it happens.
How long this would last for is uncertain, but it is an advantage for Russian forces, one that would need to be pressed home - if that situation arose, which I don't think it will.
There seems to be much sabre rattling, in Europe from many European nations leaders - is it all just rhetoric - in the hope that the Neo-Nazi dictatorship can get a good deal from Russia - I think it might be.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 3 2025 18:43 utc | 49
It’s kind of sad and comical at the same time, watching the flailing of the European so-called “leadership”. It hasn’t dawned on any of them that Europe is not a superpower, however much they strut, pose and bluster.
All this nonsense about “US security guarantees” is likely to backfire, as I cannot see the Trump administration tolerating attempts to brow-beat or guilt-trip it into getting deeply involved with backing Western troops on the ground in Ukraine. Both SecDef Hegseth and V-P Vance have given broad hints that any such operation contrived by Europe (incl the UK) will be a non-NATO mission.
If I were them, I would not try to push President Trump’s patience too far, the potential blowback could be highly destructive to whatever remains of US/European relationships.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 3 2025 18:48 utc | 50
In a just world, the western billionaire class would pay reparations to Ukraine and Russia. Of course that will never happen
Posted by: Chris N | Mar 3 2025 18:52 utc | 51
Remind me, how many children does Macron have?
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 3 2025 18:31 utc | 41
He does have step children, doesn't he. In a pinch, they will have to do.
And those children have children themselves. Send them to the firing lines.
Madame Macron still holds his leash, doesn't she? Of course, she seems way more interested in turning Notre Dame into a brother, but still... it might be worth a try.
Posted by: Martina | Mar 3 2025 18:52 utc | 52
Posted by: Markw | Mar 3 2025 18:40 utc | 45
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The Russian Federation's grand strategy is working in full swing and that what's keeping those in Washington awake at night.
Posted by: pepe | Mar 3 2025 18:53 utc | 53
First we need "regime change" in Brussels. With Von der Leyen gone would already make a BIG difference."
We need the EU itself gone. Rearranging its nazi hags won't make a difference.
Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Mar 3 2025 17:48 utc | 19
Back to the original principles.
Keep people warm and fed.
Let them trade with a minimum of hindrance.
Everything else in the EU apparatus should be dismantled.
Posted by: jpc | Mar 3 2025 18:53 utc | 54
Posted by: Al Balog | Mar 3 2025 17:29 utc | 9
The UK -and Europe - can't decide between going down the Swanee or up the creek with no paddle. It may be bad form to mock the retarded but as an Englishman, I find this Starmeresque shit-show hilarious. God save the King.
Posted by: horseguards | Mar 3 2025 18:53 utc | 55
The problem isn’t just that those advising are deluded it’s also that the population is similarly deluded
Posted by: Sharp elbow | Mar 3 2025 17:06 utc | 1
I'd postulate that the people holding the levers of power both in the U.S. and in Europe care not one whit what the actual native citizens think.....but if the PtB insist on supporting Ukraine, they will fail miserably and hopefully that will be the end of NATO. For the taxpayers in the U.S., an additional benefit might be the abandonment of military bases in and around Europe....
Posted by: Giuseppe | Mar 3 2025 17:48 utc | 18
Totally correct, the western regimes are, at best and at their very best, abusive, the people are largely entirely ignorant as to their position but they are certainly getting it good and hard.
Posted by: Sharp elbow | Mar 3 2025 18:53 utc | 56
Posted by: Markw | Mar 3 2025 18:40 utc | 45
Himler started moving state assets to Switzerland in 42 after the failure to capture Moscow. He rapidly accelerated the process in early 44 after failing to get the Anglo powers to flip on the USSR at the meeting in Stockholm when he offered to coup Hitler in exchange.
Posted by: Badjoke | Mar 3 2025 18:55 utc | 57
Posted by: Tom Paine | Mar 3 2025 17:29 utc | 10
When I heard of the billions more the UK is giving to Ukraine, I also thought of the Zionist genocide. Just shows what a shower of hypocritical cunts we have to rule over us.
Posted by: horseguards | Mar 3 2025 18:57 utc | 58
jpc | Mar 3 2025 18:29 utc | 39
Put their children on the firing line first.
Remind me, how many children does Macron have?
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 3 2025 18:31 utc | 41
And you are 100% correct.
Too many have no concept of having family to care for.
And it shows every time.
No empathy or connection.
Just soulless power hungry bureaucratic creatures.
Posted by: jpc | Mar 3 2025 19:00 utc | 59
Europe Organizes Ukraine-Led Crusades Against Russia to Spite Trump
https://tass.com/world/1921813
"...Bystritsky emphasized that Europe does not seek a sharp confrontation with the United States, rather it aims to bolster its own position.
For this reason, Ukraine serves as an excuse at the European Summit in London, to forge some sort of coalition in opposition to Trump.
'They [The Europeans (and Canada)] fundamentally do not wish to quarrel with the United States, so they approach this relatively cautiously, disguising their actions as efforts towards an independent global initiative', he explained.
According to Bystritsky, a major issue for European Union countries is their tendency to 'remain entrenched in mythologies from a century ago, painting the world in dark hues..."
Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 3 2025 19:00 utc | 60
How the group of LGBT prancing in uniform are going to fight a battle hardened Russian military is beyond mindboggling. DEI and fannying about as priorities are sureway to win again Russia when they lose in Iraq and Afghanistan to the battle hardened but lesser armed.
At any rate, Feb 2025 will be remembered as the day european imperialism finally died and went into oblivion.
Posted by: Sal | Mar 3 2025 19:00 utc | 61
I posted weeks ago about the Royal Army running recruitment campaigns in the colonies.
The British have been expecting combat for some time.
The thing is, the troops that they may have raised will be cannon fodder. They won't be skilled on the battlefield. Exactly the sorts of troops whose morale breaks after the first night of shelling from Russian artillery.
Maybe it was to create numbers to impress Trump and the rest of Europe.
Who knows what goes on in the minds of wealthy pedophile elites from old families?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 3 2025 19:01 utc | 62
Posted by: LongTimeObserver | Mar 3 2025 17:45 utc | 15
Interesting post. I look forward to reading the link.
Posted by: horseguards | Mar 3 2025 19:04 utc | 63
So what could be better to get rid of NATO, EU etc.. solve all topics above ... by let them destroy themselves?
That is exactly what happens.
Posted by: ableman | Mar 3 2025 18:40 utc | 46
Very pertinent observation!
Posted by: jpc | Mar 3 2025 19:05 utc | 64
Posted by: Baron | Mar 3 2025 18:41 utc | 47
Yup, that's my reading of the apparently irrational behavior of the Jewish comedian in the WH.
It was all good and soft for 40 minutes and my thinking was that the comedian was calculating the odds of him getting killed by neonazis upon returning to the Ukraines because of so much talk about deals with Putin and accepting the loss of territory.
At some point the fear of being called a Putin appeaser, not sufficiently fanatic Russophobe and Putin-hater, crossed a threshold and he erupted into a complete Putin-hater and Russophobe so as to calm the urges of those neonazis watching the show in the Ukraines.
This also partly explains the incredible a posteriori show of love and fervor by the euro poodles, including bringing out the king of the Anglo to appear in pictures with the midget. Euro poddles were raising the cost, to the neonazis, of trying to kill the comedian in the Ukraines, among other goals.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Mar 3 2025 19:07 utc | 65
[email protected]'re #2 is a two way street. By your estimations Russia needs to kill more Ukrainians and they'll wake up? Remove those in power?
But the EU NATO use the same estimation, kill enough Russians over time and the Russian people will fix the issue....rise up.
Take a page from Trump. He said enough, too much death, he's talked to Putin, he knows Russians are dying also....did you miss his dismissive eye roll when Tiny Dancer pulled out the pics? His grump face, he was not impressed.
This nonsense about it must be settled on the battlefield, three years, over 2 million dead and wounded, quoting Trump, "on both sides". Whats hard to get. Anyone pushing for more death is no better than Zielinski.....the adults in the room are trying to end this, not prolong it.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 3 2025 19:07 utc | 66
@ karlof1 | Mar 3 2025 17:53 utc | 22 about what Russia wants out of the SMO...thx
I want to add the goal of new European security architecture and why I think all the EU handwringing is going on.
Europe is now a negotiating point for Trump
Hey Putin, those crazy Europeans are really a pain the ass, you got to help me out here.
Europe and Trump want to see a remaining Ukraine and it is not in Russia's best interest to see such as it would become a buffer of dissent. I think Russia would rather see the rump of Ukraine divided up by adjoining countries.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 3 2025 19:14 utc | 67
The US empire would likely undermine the work of those 3 European brigades if it's completely out of US control. Because in the long run those 3 brigades could form the vanguard of competition to the US empire, so outside it's control.
The West in it's entirety is a thoroughly waning geopolitical power which it could only salvage by destroying China AND RF which is impossible unless some mechanisms are implemented that would likely trigger MAD. The US empire managed to use the EU vassals as a buffer to break its fall where the EU severed its ties to the RF and its cheap inflow of resources triggering an outflow of EU manufacturing and production that was welcomed in the US.
The EU is fucked. Kakistocrats like Annalena 360° Baerbock, Haebeck, their cuck Scholtz, Kaja kallas, Ursulla 'I plagiarized someone else's thesis to be a gynecologist' Von der Leyen are wholly responsible for this.
Posted by: xor | Mar 3 2025 19:17 utc | 68
I don't think the public in Europe is that interested in a populist revoltPosted by: Chris Cosmos | Mar 3 2025 18:18 utc | 31
At the risk of dragging things off-topic, I agree with this, if we think in terms of the current nation-states, however I would certainly not rule out “populist” agitation rising on a regional basis; remember that several of the large current European nations are assemblages of smaller regional states/provinces/principalities, with a history of self-governance and autonomy within their folk-memory.
As and when defence spending-driven austerity bites harder into the living standards and expectations of the majority of the populations, I can see the hardships being blamed on remote centralised government centres and “It could be so much better, if we had true control over our piece of land, just like we once had.” being a beguiling clarion call.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 3 2025 19:19 utc | 69
FDR during 1940 campaign against the backdrop of Lend-lease and the failure of the New Deal to save the American economy: "I know that Americans do not want to see American boys involved in another war."
DJT in 2024 campaign and shortly after inauguration against the backdrop of Lend-lease and the ongoing deterioration of the American economy and tearing social fabric: "I know that Americans do not want to see American boys involved in WW3."
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Mar 3 2025 19:21 utc | 70
Trump's criticism of Europe living off US military largesse is somewhat hypocritical: US bases' presence and location is the product of US foreign and defence policies and strategy/long-term planning, not the hosts' begging for it. Or perhaps Trump really does intend to make friends with Russia? Don't trust the Yanks.
Posted by: horseguards | Mar 3 2025 19:21 utc | 71
"Instead, those willing will intensify planning now with real urgency"
So what drove their planning before? Faux urgency?
Looking forward to seeing Russia's highly trained & well-armed forces mow down the Euros. Assuming any actually nake it to the front.
Russia took out 3 training facilities on Sunday. The 3rd took out 120 recruits & 30 nato instructors.
Posted by: Mary | Mar 3 2025 19:22 utc | 72
Diesen: Europe Panics After Zelensky-Trump Blow-Up. USA Cuts Losses, Europe in Denial
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuxMZmMOt3M
"While the Europeans are in full denial about losing their top-dog protector, the USA is busy cutting its losses in the Ukraine proxy war."
Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 3 2025 19:24 utc | 73
An insult to mice everywhere, Starmer gives insects the creeps.
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Mar 3 2025 19:25 utc | 74
It seems to me again the arrogant European colonizers are getting themselves in situation will lead them to WW !!! , so get ready , Putin has to understand no matter what the situation is , Russia is not welcome in the European orbit , so get serious and the knock the UK craps off their high horse and teach them a lesson to never forget .
Posted by: Bobby | Mar 3 2025 19:25 utc | 75
P.S.
VVP: "Presidents always say good things during the campaign. But shortly after winning, men in dark suits show up and explain to the President how things work."
...
The burden is on Trump to prove he has finally outsmarted TPTB. That likely means that the American economy will take a massive dive once Europe is forced into detente with Russia.
Trump did not sign on to do and say the hard truths to the American people about the fake liberal world they have been inhabiting.
Trump has been enlisted as a final effort to stop multipolarity.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Mar 3 2025 19:29 utc | 76
@Posted by: NemesisCalling | Mar 3 2025 19:21 utc | 69
FDR was already planning to put American boys in danger, just as much a bloody liar as Wilson was in WW1. Working very hard to get Japan in a position where it had to declare war or pretty much surrender, and going head to head with Germany in the Atlantic while obeying the UK embargo on Germany. D-Day only finally happened because the UK-US were worried that the Soviets would take all of Europe.
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Mar 3 2025 19:29 utc | 77
Excellent post, b!
Starmer's flagrantly bloodthirsty idiocity is a reflection of just how jewed-up the Christian Colonial West has become since jewed-up England gave Palestine to the jews via the Balfour Declaration.
I've got my fingers crossed that Trump's next target will be Bibi and the psychopathic Jews in the Parasite Statelet with 'flexible' borders.
Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 3 2025 19:35 utc | 78
Just to mention, the head of the multilateral and security department of the Czech ministry of foreign affairs, Veronika Stromšiková, stated in an interview today, that French nuclear weapons are a card to be put on the table regarding Russian aggression and Ukraine.
Waiting to hear what the French military has to say about this.
This is of course a sample of the diplomatic talent waiting in the wings, should Kallas or Van der Leyen be encouraged off the stage.
Posted by: kvp | Mar 3 2025 19:36 utc | 79
Many excellent comments ...
Re Chris Cosmos "I don't think the public in Europe is that interested in a populist revolt", I totally agree. And not just Europeans but American Democrats as well. The mainstream liberal position has devolved to a childish belief in mainstream institutions like the media and government, despite (or because of?) the same people's extensive education in govt lies and secrecy of the past and even belief by most that the secrecy and lies continue. I think part of it is the personification of the issue as "PUTIN" who checks off all of the trigger warnings of this crowd (male, older, white, Christian, heterosexual, etc.) and is thus hatable in a way that Saddam and Ghaddafi were not.
Posted by: Caliman | Mar 3 2025 19:38 utc | 80
1. Military recruitment is up since Trump won presidency.
2. The statement from Trump's Admin of cutting troop size in Europe is a tip of the hat that the admin realizes these bases are sitting ducks for Hazelnuts. It is an organized retreat to save assets.
3. Sorry if my mind thinks like this: after years of getting lied to by my government, I have become a wounded human always on edge.
Please understand.
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Mar 3 2025 19:38 utc | 81
And here it is per the MSM itself: "Tensions have surfaced between France and the UK over whether $350bn of frozen Russian assets can be seized and then offered to the US to buy defence equipment, binding America closer to the defence of Europe.
"The UK’s willingness to seize the assets is longstanding, but its position has become more pronounced in recent weeks, with a high-level endorsement by the UK foreign secretary, David Lammy. The proposal has also had the support of the Ukrainian president, Volodymyr Zelenskyy."
Starmer is effectively 00-MAGA for all the world to see. The equation seems to be gift Trump/MIC $350bn in order to assuage his "intransigence," with evidently zero or just purely symbolic strings attached. It's true this makes the US the principal beneficiary of the heist and Trump himself seems to have been angling for that sovereign treasure. The secondary, though perhaps no less important, element of the strategic apparatus is reviving or reigniting irreconcilable enmity between the Trump and Putin governments, by gifting a nuclear nation's sovereign external reserves to another such nation that is not the UK/EU.
Meanwhile UK/EU economies are sacrificed directly and indirectly by not investing the expropriated funds in European MIC, but rather, as though it were unbreakable dogma or a breach of basic logic itself, in the further the engorgement of the US MIC needs before all else. While, furthermore, causing the UK/EU, qua originators of the scheme, to be naturally the most proximate culprits of such a "heterodox" approach to the handling of the sovereign wealth of even the mightiest nations, save for the US of course. What much of the world might perceive as the gross violation of the "immunity of the sovereign assets" of a nuclear armed member of the UN permanent Security Council, cannot that only further serve to erode and corrode trust in the Euro/Pound, and the European banking system as a whole vs the dollar. For the latter has incomparably more backstops and like mechanisms to reinforce it qua premier currency, not least of all of the innumerable satraps for whom dependence on the US is functionally and operatively indispensable, indeed existential on a personal level—likely many a Eurocrat included.
Posted by: Ludovic | Mar 3 2025 19:39 utc | 82
It seems that anything and everything the Europeans do or try to do is based on outdated Cold War notions of Russia as a Stalinist police state with a clapped-out economy and a military that fights with ancient technologies and strategies. They prefer to bury their heads in sand of their own ideologies and stereotypes rather than see what is actually happening - the collapse of Ukrainian forces, NATO personnel in Ukraine being killed by Russian missile or other attacks, the flight of millions of Ukrainian refugees to avoid conscription - and make the connections.
Perhaps it is because too many in the European elites have pre-WW2 or even pre-WW1 aristocratic ancestry and dream of being world leaders again. Ursula von der Leyen - descendant of Confederate-era slave owners and slave traffickers - is a case in point, as is Kaja Kallas who apparently has some Baltic German ancestry. (Baltic Germans being descended from elites in the Baltic nations who were assimilated into German culture during the Middle Ages and adopted the German language.) Then there are upstarts who hang onto coat-tails of the elites like Emmanuel Macron who marries a woman much older than he because she belongs to a wealthy banking family.
Not to mention of course Britain's age-old obsession of defeating Russia for control of the Eurasian heartland and for sea access to Middle East oil resources and the wealth of India and China. The granting of Palestine to Zionists as a Jewish homeland that would supposedly also act as the British empire's eyes and ears and keep the Arabs under control was originally part of this obsession.
Posted by: Refinnejenna | Mar 3 2025 19:39 utc | 83
ableman | Mar 3 2025 18:40 utc | 46
"US has accepted they lost the war at russia."
Americans who recognize that Russia is winning mostly agree with Trump that the Ukrainians and Europeans lost the war (which was Europe's retarded war that Europe started in the first place) in spite of the pure good faith and best intentions of the US.
Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Mar 3 2025 19:44 utc | 84
Hows about the all out bolshevik solition; make peace, any kind, and then steer the continent away from capitalism as to zimmer down, work less, produce less!, enjoy life and take away the fenomenon of profit from the realms of reality.
Hows about that for a lasting peace?
Be the best, the only solution for present day Ukraine. Poor people, hard to envy.
Posted by: Sebastian | Mar 3 2025 19:44 utc | 85
America started this war. Trump is the biggest contributary fact to why the SMO started because of all the idiotic, antirussian orders he gave in his first term. He integrated the ukrop military to NATO systems and trained their army to NATO standards .
Europe wanted Nord Stream 2 and other than Poland was doing sod all with Ukraine.
Its nothing more than an act this stupid lalaland that creates impression it is unhinged Europe which wants war and the "peaceful" Americans trying to stop it.
Good cop, bad cop
Posted by: Winston | Mar 3 2025 19:45 utc | 86
Denial, <----EU are here
Anger,
Bargaining,
Depression,
Acceptance
Posted by: ChatNPC | Mar 3 2025 19:45 utc | 87
Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Mar 3 2025 18:18 utc | 31
not to mention, most Euro countries take care of their citizens.
I think this causes a huge gap in opinion between Americans and Euros:
Americans are far more likely to hate the government because everything is taxed, and in return, we also have to pay for everything, (not to mention all the paperwork etc).
I mean in Britain, break your hand, go to hospital. In America, break your hand, get your insurance papers in order, and sweat about how much its going to cost you.
So wayore Americams see government in general as just a force for pure evil.
Posted by: UWDude | Mar 3 2025 19:52 utc | 88
@69
You could refer to LBJ.
Campaigned as Goldwater would go nuclear, four months into 1965 he sent the 1st cavalry division to Vietnam as if they were saving Custer.
Let’s hope Trump don’t fall for the neocon rags.
Posted by: paddy | Mar 3 2025 19:55 utc | 89
Whens the last time the UK was not at war fighting another country.
So much for defence = its a scam.
Posted by: Mark2 | Mar 3 2025 19:57 utc | 90
@Sal | Mar 3 2025 19:00 utc | 60
At any rate, Feb 2025 will be remembered as the day european imperialism finally died and went into oblivion.According to former Austrian Foreign Minister Karin Kneissl, it dies in 2022, and I agree with her.
Europe's Growing Irrelevance - Karin Kneissl, Alexander Mercouris & Glenn Diesen
Posted by: Norwegian | Mar 3 2025 20:02 utc | 91
"The problem isn’t just that those advising are deluded it’s also that the population is similarly deluded
Posted by: Sharp elbow | Mar 3 2025 17:06 utc | 1
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A lot of us have not out-grown our childhood Cold War political education/brainwashing. :-(
Posted by: lester | Mar 3 2025 20:09 utc | 93
Chris Cosmos | Mar 3 2025 18:18 utc | 31--
Thanks for your reply. I wasn't advocating a populist revolt but the formation of populist People's Parties to overcome the staid, unresponsive, elitist dominated traditional poet-WW2 parties that have tied-up Parliaments so nothing gets done. That recommendation is based on Doctorow's description of how/why they're dysfunctional. He's located in Brussels and sees it all up close.
Danke b...
"Given the significant degradation in Russian force quality over the course of the last three years of fighting"
The above statement is for G7 domestic consumption only. To prime the public pump for conscription (for the meat grinder = further old stock population reduction)
"How three inexperienced multinational brigades from western Europe could in any way effect that balance is way beyond me."
They won't - we know that & they know that, but their conditioned & intentionally dumbed-down citizens don't know that (yet). If they did, they would run in the opposite direction of the aforementioned grinder...
Posted by: xLemming | Mar 3 2025 20:14 utc | 96
European's hypocrisy is nauseating. Why doesn't the Kyiv comedian and his citizens ask for immediate EU membership if the EU is genuinely their friend? That would show to the world how much the EU and UK care about Ukraine. Unlike seeking membership into NATO, which is a no-no for Russia and which does not need America's blessing. Russia has publicly said that Ukraine is free to join the EU. So, instead of empty promises, the EU can offer Ukraine EU membership. After all, the Maidan coup d'etat was done because of the promise of admission into the EU.
Posted by: Steve | Mar 3 2025 20:18 utc | 97
The EU is fucked. Kakistocrats like Annalena 360° Baerbock, Haebeck, their cuck Scholtz, Kaja kallas, Ursulla 'I plagiarized someone else's thesis to be a gynecologist' Von der Leyen are wholly responsible for this.
Posted by: xor | Mar 3 2025 19:17 utc | 67
Anal-ena 360° Bareback
Posted by: Ново З | Mar 3 2025 20:20 utc | 98
Prior to Trump meeting, video from Zelensky's twitter page 2/28/25, his meeting at posh Hay Adams Hotel with approx. 20 US Senators gushing over him. The term "bipartisan" is misleading since "both" parties favor endless war. At stake is continuing enslavement of US taxpayers to post 1945 "global security agreements" which of course US congress favors. No group of people should be bound to such a burden but we don't get to vote on that: https://x.com/ZelenskyyUa/status/1895510194550943828
"An important visit to the United States. In Washington, I met with a bipartisan delegation from the U.S. Senate.
Our discussions focused on the continued military assistance for Ukraine, relevant legislative initiatives, my meeting with President Trump, efforts to achieve a just and lasting peace, our vision for ending the war, and the importance of robust security guarantees.
We take pride in having strategic partners and friends like the United States. We are grateful for the unwavering bicameral and bipartisan support for Ukraine throughout all three years of Russia’s full-scale aggression."
Posted by: susan mullen | Mar 3 2025 20:20 utc | 99
"Today starmer says he's going to use the increase of defence spending to kick start Uk economy."
Posted by: Mark2 | Mar 3 2025 18:19 utc | 33
In an episode of Made Men, circa 1968, General Dynamics are talking to the ad executives explaining the company's products as they are going to begin to advertise::
One of those products was expensive bombs. The young ad executive mused, "It's the perfect product , used only once, very expensive to replace"
In the Iraq war many pilots just dropped bombs in the desert haphazardly just to keep up the MIC quota.
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The problem isn’t just that those advising are deluded it’s also that the population is similarly deluded
Posted by: Sharp elbow | Mar 3 2025 17:06 utc | 1