https://x.com/MintPressNews/status/1902415445765849327
MintPress News @MintPressNews
Bernie Sanders votes on a resolution that supports genocide against Gaza
The American senator, previously known for his left-wing politics, has supported a bill introduced by Lindsey Graham and other war hawks that calls for moves that would essentially destroy Gaza economically and plunge the population into a deadly famine, all under the guise of “eliminating Hamas”.
https://x.com/zei_squirrel/status/1902827722369298867
☀️👀 @zei_squirrel
AIPAC is now citing the resolution Bernie Sanders supported which greenlights the genocide to justify its continuation:
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https://x.com/EvanAKilgore/status/1902856442551603426
Evan Kilgore 🇺🇸 @EvanAKilgore
Ben Shapiro:
“I don’t care who killed JFK 60 years ago because it was so long ago.”
Also Ben Shapiro:
“Israel was promised to Jews 4,000 years ago.”
🥴🥴

Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 21 2025 20:40 utc | 204

Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 21 2025 15:36 utc | 174
“the hard to take truth for some, is that man created god not the other way around”
You can’t prove that any more than others can prove God exists. Other than to look around & see what came out of energy.
“-and the nonsense religions have sparked of more wars (my god and my religion are better or more relevant than yours nonsense) and cost more lives than just about anything else.”
Are religions the cause? Or the ex use?
Btw, the Religion of Science had caused more than its share of suffering & death.

Posted by: Mary | Mar 21 2025 21:22 utc | 206

“LoveDonbas (175).
Now lest see – which is the most likely outcome of your comment, that god saves the utterly oppressed Palestinians – or is it just a tad more likely, that UN might be able to do something – yes, the UN is hopeless, and corrupt – but at least its real, and it exists – unlike any god.”
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 21 2025 15:55 utc | 177
I agree 100%; LoveDonbass posts too much and ponders too little.

Posted by: canuck | Mar 21 2025 21:28 utc | 208

Pepe 176
The cancer that is Netanyahu is rapidly shrinking. Maybe the majority of countries supported some kind of retaliation to Nutjob’s Oct 7 MIHOP.
Because of the genocide the cancer of Zionism is rapidly disappearing.

Posted by: Giyane | Mar 21 2025 22:33 utc | 210

Posted by: borg | Mar 21 2025 22:15 utc | 211
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Unfortunately, no.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 23:04 utc | 212

NO FLY ZONE OVER THE OCCUPATION!

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 23:09 utc | 214

the so-called Ben Gurion Airport
😂😂😂
Ansar Allah is approaching Trump-levels of trolling.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 23:13 utc | 216

Posted by: Mary | Mar 21 2025 21:22 utc | 208 There is no Religion of Science and there are no wars that can be traced to this imaginary scarecrow.
The rhetorical questions forget that so-called religion is not a set of abstract propositions but real social institutions with material interests. A creed doesn’t cause wars any more than ideas in general. But churches, as social institutions (that historically in some places have been an integral part of government or state) can and have had material interests pursued by war-like means.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Mar 21 2025 23:54 utc | 218

Bernie Sanders votes on a resolution that supports genocide against Gaza
@ michaelj72 | Mar 21 2025 20:40 utc | 206
Not only Bernie, of course. The vote on the Hamas-denunciation resolution in the US Senate (on 3/13) was unanimous. The whole resolution makes for rough (albeit brief) reading, as it dawns on you this senate — every last miserable senator — is virtually chorusing Bomb Bomb Iran:

Resolved, That the Senate—
(1) affirms that Hamas cannot be allowed to retain any political or military control in the Gaza Strip;
(2) calls upon the President to use all economic and diplomatic tools possible to halt all sources of funding for Hamas from the Islamic Republic of Iran and all other sources of revenue; and
(3) supports the State of Israel as it continues to defend its sovereignty against attacks from Hamas, the Islamic Republic of Iran, and all other Iranian proxies.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-resolution/72/text

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 22 2025 0:22 utc | 220

LoveDonbass 219
When the divisions in Israel are between dogs like Smotrich who should never be allowed near a microphone, and dogs like Netanyahu whose job as a pet Doberman is to terrorise Palestinians and Lebanese and Syrians, I cannot accept the relevance of these divisions.
Smoke and mirrors. Hollywood drama, guff like Gandalf in Lord of the Rings.
Or , as you put it, Israeli trolling .

Posted by: Giyane | Mar 22 2025 0:25 utc | 222

Reminder: here are the actions of the “man” that LoveDonbass, Gayane, and their fellow Muslim travellers consider to be the perfect man and model for all humanity, taken directly from the hadith:
Narrated `Aisha: that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that `Aisha remained with the Prophet (ﷺ) for nine years (i.e. till his death). – Sahih Bukhari
Narrated Aisha: The Prophet (ﷺ) engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, “Best wishes and Allah’s Blessing and a good luck.” Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah’s Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. – Sahih Bukhari
Narrated `Aisha: that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). – Sahih Bukhari
The Prophet (ﷺ) wrote the (marriage contract) with `Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death). – Sahih Bukhari
Khadija died three years before the Prophet (ﷺ) departed to Medina. He stayed there for two years or so and then he married `Aisha when she was a girl of six years of age, and he consumed that marriage when she was nine years old. – Sahih Bukhari
‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah’s Messenger (ﷺ) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house at the age of nine. She further said: We went to Medina and I had an attack of fever for a month, and my hair had come down to the earlobes. Umm Ruman (my mother) came to me and I was at that time on a swing along with my playmates. She called me loudly and I went to her and I did not know what she had wanted of me. She took hold of my hand and took me to the door, and I was saying: Ha, ha (as if I was gasping), until the agitation of my heart was over. She took me to a house, where had gathered the women of the Ansar. They all blessed me and wished me good luck and said: May you have share in good. She (my mother) entrusted me to them. They washed my head and embellished me and nothing frightened me. Allah’s Messenger (, may peace be upon him) came there in the morning, and I was entrusted to him. – Sahih Muslim
‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah’s Apostle (ﷺ) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old. – Sahih Muslim
‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah’s Apostle (ﷺ) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old. – Sahih Muslim
‘A’isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah’s Apostle (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old, and he (the Holy Prophet) took her to his house when she was nine, and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old – Sahih Muslim
Aishah said: “The Messenger of Allah married me when I was six years old. Then we came to Al-Madinah and settled among Banu Harith bin Khazraj. I became ill and my hair fell out, then it grew back and became abundant. My mother Umm Ruman came to me while I was on an Urjuhah with some of my friends, and called for me. I went to her, and I did not know what she wanted. She took me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house, and I was panting. When I got my breath back, she took some water and wiped my face and head, and led me into the house. There were some woman of the Ansar inside the house, and they said: ‘With blessings and good fortune (from Allah).’ (My mother) handed me over to them and they tidied me up. And suddenly I saw the Messenger of Allah in the morning. And she handed me over to him and I was at that time, nine years old.” – Sunan Ibn Majah, graded Sahih
“The Prophet married Aishah when she was seven years old, and consummated the marriage with her when she was nine, and he passed away when she was eighteen.” – Sunan Ibn Majah, graded Sahih
The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) married me when I was seven years old. The narrator Sulaiman said: or Six years. He had intercourse with me when I was nine years old. Sunan Abu Dawud, graded Sahih
It was narrated from ‘Aishah that the Messenger of Allah married her when she was six years old, and consummated the marriage with her when she was nine. – Sunan Al-Nasa’i, graded Sahih
“The Messenger of Allah married me when I was seven years old, and he consummated the marriage with me when I was nine.” – Sunan Al-Nasa’i, graded Sahih
“Aishah said: ‘The Messenger of Allah married me when I was nine and I lived with him for nine years.'” – Sunan Al-Nasa’i, graded Sahih
It was narrated from ‘Aishah that the Messenger of Allah married her when she was nine and he died when she was eighteen years old. – Sunan Al-Nasa’i, graded Sahih
“The Messenger of Allah married me when I was six, and consummated the marriage with me when I was nine, and I used to play with dolls.” – Sunan Al-Nasa’i, graded Sahih

Posted by: Itsallsotiresome | Mar 22 2025 0:32 utc | 224

Not sure on CSG Ford or Bush, but Vinson is routed to the middle east
https://www.newsweek.com/hegseth-orders-pacific-aircraft-carrier-middle-east-amid-houthi-strikes-2048720
“Israeli Defence Minister Israel Katz
“I ordered (the army) to seize more territory in Gaza… The more Hamas refuses to free the hostages, the more territory it will lose, which will be annexed by Israel,” he said in a statement.” NewArab
In Tunisia protestors demonstrated at Maersk offices, leading to arrests…from that article Maersk position on military shipments:
“Earlier this month, a shareholder activist group, Kritiske Aktionærer, submitted a proposal to the board to block the world’s second-largest ocean carrier from transporting military cargo to Israel.
On 18 March, at Maersk’s annual general meeting, shareholders rejected the proposal.
Maersk, which holds a contract with the US government, has once again insisted it is only transporting military equipment, not weapons or ammunition, and that it adheres “strictly” to international regulations and embargoes.” NewArab

Posted by: Ornot | Mar 22 2025 1:16 utc | 226

Journalist Youssef Fares
“Witkoff:
-We need a real security force in Gaza to assure Israel that they won’t have a problem there in the long run.
-We may be able to use what happened to make Hamas more realistic.
-We need real elections in Gaza”

Posted by: Ornot | Mar 22 2025 1:56 utc | 228

https://x.com/haaretzcom/status/1903036126639661366
Haaretz.com @haaretzcom
Israel recently committed the largest child massacre in its history. The numbers are not reported in the Israeli media, and if they are – it’s always minimized | Opinion | Hanin Majadli
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2025-03-21/ty-article-opinion/.premium/even-anti-war-israelis-are-scared-to-say-gazans-are-human-beings/00000195-b525-d862-a3b5-f53704750000
Opinion | Even Anti-war Israelis Are Scared to Say Gazans Are Human Beings
Israel recently committed the largest child massacre in its history. Two hundred children and 100 women were killed in one day. Altogether, about 400 civilians were killed, and the number of dead is not yet final. These numbers are not reported in the Israeli media, and if they are – it’s always minimized in an outrageous manner…..

Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 22 2025 2:09 utc | 230

keep lobbing those hyper-sonic missiles, Yemen,
some day, maybe, the zionist-israeli scoundrels and USA trash will get the message (but I doubt it)
https://t.me/Middle_East_Spectator/16678
Middle East Spectator – MES
—❗️🇮🇱/🇾🇪 NEW: The Yemeni Armed Forces announce that Ben Gurion Intl. Airport is not safe for travel, and says it will remain a target until the aggression against Gaza stops, and they call upon all airlines to stop flying to and from Ben Gurion
https://x.com/ejmalrai/status/1903183986358132912
Elijah J. Magnier 🇪🇺 @ejmalrai
Yemen Ansar Allah launched two hypersonic missiles on Israel in support of the besieged and bombed Gaza. Israeli in Tel Aviv are seeking the nearest shelters now.
https://x.com/MenchOsint/status/1903182977984508074
MenchOsint @MenchOsint
⚡️X has suspended Mohammed al-Bukhaiti’s account, a senior member of Yemen’s Ansarallah political bureau

Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 22 2025 2:22 utc | 232

Your “prophet”
Posted by: Itsallsotiresome | Mar 22 2025 2:10 utc | 233
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He’s God’s Prophet and is the Prophet to billions of humans today and for much of the last 15 centuries.
A wonderful conversation, thank you.
PS, keep reading the Hadiths!

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 22 2025 3:04 utc | 234

[…] Resolved, That the Senate—
(1) affirms that Hamas cannot be allowed to retain any political or military control in the Gaza Strip;
(2) calls upon the President to use all economic and diplomatic tools possible to halt all sources of funding for Hamas from the Islamic Republic of Iran and all other sources of revenue; and
(3) supports the State of Israel as it continues to defend its sovereignty against attacks from Hamas, the Islamic Republic of Iran, and all other Iranian proxies.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/senate-resolution/72/text
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 22 2025 0:22 utc | 222
Sums it up. 100/100, 100% for Genocidal Zionism from the genocidal USA.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 22 2025 3:07 utc | 236

Assal Rad @AssalRad
Israel blew up Gaza’s only cancer hospital, the video of their war crime is circulating online, but Western media outlets appear to be totally uninterested in reporting it.
Imagine the coverage if it was Russia blowing up Ukraine’s only cancer hospital.
https://x.com/owenjonesjourno/status/1903170154659184902
Owen Jones @owenjonesjourno
What you’re looking at here is a cancer hospital.
It was Gaza’s only cancer hospital.
This is the Western-armed Israeli military blowing it up.
Do you think we’ll be forgiven for these atrocities? Trust me – we won’t be.
Assal Rad @AssalRad
The largest CHILD MASSACRE.
Do you ever see the New York Times use the same language to describe Israel’s crimes?
https://x.com/haaretzcom/status/1903036126639661366
Haaretz.com @haaretzcom
Israel recently committed the largest child massacre in its history. The numbers are not reported in the Israeli media, and if they are – it’s always minimized | Opinion | Hanin Majadli

Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 22 2025 3:30 utc | 238

Posted by: itsallsotiresome | Mar 22 2025 3:22 utc | 239
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I don’t know that one. Admittedly, I do not share your interest in boys.
Not all Hadiths are equal, there is a process by which they are rated and verified. A “good” Hadith has a chain of custody that goes back to the source and verifies that they were where they claimed to be when they claim they heard or saw something.
Because the Prophet was so important, there are very few Hadiths with only one source as he was always surrounded by people.
It’s similar to how every person who memorizes the Quran can trace the chain of memorizers back to the first oral sharing of the Quran. Muslims are really big on authentication and documentation. Hadiths (like jurisprudence) are scientific enterprises in Islam.
The Glorious Quran is divine revelation and is always the most reliable source. Since you seem very interested in Islam, you may want to stick to that. It takes time to discern what is correct and what the appropriate context is in hadiths.
Do be careful with the copy/pasting. Short cuts are not advised for such serious topics.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 22 2025 3:45 utc | 240

Netanyahu is an old woman. He can’t get what he wants from the world so he fights his own family. When will Israel divorce these Likud Drama Queens?

Posted by: Giyane | Mar 22 2025 4:05 utc | 242

Posted by: Giyane | Mar 22 2025 4:05 utc | 243
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This is what I hoped for, Israel to succumb to its internal problems making it impossible for them to continue a genocide.
I think I said it last year. Israel is done. Lost too many people, the economy has been wrecked. The IDF has been discredited. Pager stunts won’t substitute for a proper capacity for defense as Ukraine’s talent at assassination isn’t sufficient to win a war against a major power.
The daily deaths are heartbreaking but there is hope that this will end badly for the Zionists this year, an ending which the Zionist state won’t be able to make a comeback from.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 22 2025 4:43 utc | 244

OMG!!!
Still watching the Carlson/Witkoff interview and I just had to list to Tucker selling crypto currencies and management tools….selling it outright as option to US dollar….because fear, fear, fear!
Back to the interview….real focus on selling the narrative that Oct 7 must never be repeated and now the term Witkoff said early on…a Golden Bridge for Palestinians to leave or bringing economic and financial prospects….not welfare.
More support by both of Trump’s bully approach to “negotiation”.
Also selling his leadership and cabinet capabilities….it is getting think….
“Witkoff said, “Hamas was not responding and their responses were not responsible” which is why Occupied Palestine went back in…..no Oct. 7 ever again…..
Witkoff is pushing reborn Abraham Accords and says relationship with Turkey is being upgraded.
Trump is God and we all need to bow down to everything we say and do…..gag…
Onto to Ukraine

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 22 2025 5:56 utc | 246

see the 1:01 video at the first link
https://x.com/norabf/status/1903158490476187771
Nora Barrows-Friedman @norabf
“Where is everyone in the world? Where?”
https://x.com/translatingpal/status/1903156384390320609
Translating Falasteen (Palestine) @translatingpal
👇 He found a little girl’s body lifeless on the street, so he took her to the nearest morgue. A Palestinian transported the body of a little girl in a box on the back of a bicycle after she was killed in an Israeli airstrike during a series of bombardments that targeted Al-Tufah neighborhood in Gaza City.
Source: basherpress (IG)

Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 22 2025 6:50 utc | 248

The Zaidi tradition has been in the Republic of Yemen (RoY) for more than 1,000 years – and the Houthis see themselves as part of that legacy, and having grown organically as a local movement, rather than a foreign project. The group has also set out independent political and military objectives, such as gaining control over a unified Yemen and fighting foreign intervention, especially by the US and Israel.
The Houthis have demonstrated a willingness to attack the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia (KSA) and the United Arab Emirates (UAE), or simply the Emirates based on Yemeni grievances, particularly those involving air strikes and blockades that devastated the local population.
Earlier today, the Ansar Allah [Houthis] attacked Ben Gurion Airport in the occupied neighborhood of Jaffa with a Palestine-2 hypersonic ballistic missile. All airlines were warned that Ben Gurion Airport is now unsafe for air traffic and will remain so. The Air Force carried out an operation targeting several warships associated with the US aircraft carrier USS Harry Truman.
All domestic weaponary designed and built by the Houthis without anyone else’s intervention.
At the moment roughly ca. 32.5% [(75+60)/2 are now gone] throught Bab el Mandeb. Not surprising to see this rate to fall down to 0% over the next few months.

Posted by: pepe | Mar 22 2025 11:02 utc | 250

Posted by: abierno | Mar 21 2025 22:53 utc | 213
It is important to not confuse private ownership of land and statehood.
It is also important to distinguish between the colloquial “their land”, private property land holdings and statehood.
Palestine is the Palestinians’ land, “their land”, because they have always lived there. It is rooted in geography, history, and permanent presence.
Palestinians own land in Palestine, have property rights. These rights fall under domestic property laws and have no bearing on statehood.
Statehood is not connected to ownership of land, but to elements defined in international law.
The basic three requirements for statehood: defined territory, population and effective control/government.
When these requirements are met, the recognition of a territory as a state is a matter of political decision by other states. Recognition is not a legal but a political act.
The state of Palestine de facto does not exist, because it does not fulfill the three basic requirements – it has no defined territory and no effective control over a defined territory.
The states that have recognized the state of Palestine have recognized something undefined, so the recognition is nebulous and has no concrete effects.
No one knows if there will be a state of Palestine, in which borders and whether there will be effective control over the territory within those borders.
The Palestinians have a recognized right to return, but they can not return to territory over which Israel has effective control, the occupied territory. Israel is about to annex the WB and, apparently, intends to annex Gaza, or parts of Gaza, according to latest official statements.
There is no effective government over Gaza and WB, the Palestinian population is being intentionally destroyed en masse and the Zionist forces are conducting obliteration and displacement operations in Gaza and the WB.
There is no state of Palestine that can guarantee Palestinian rights of any kind, including property rights. Owning land, or anything, in the occupied territories has no practical meaning in the current circumstances.
And even if the expelled Palestinians returned to Palestine to reclaim their property, which state would guarantee their rights when there is no Palestinian state, and only two of five Israel borders have been formally recognized and it, US/Israel, does not recognize international law or any human norms.
The situation in Palestine is more than complex:
A state called Israel with only two formally recognized borders illegally occupying territory which it is in the process of expanding; UN documents about a Palestinian state which does not exist in reality and would not be viable within the purported 1967 boundaries, but is recognized by some other states; a genocide effectively reducing the Palestinian population; US/Israel that intends to impose total military and political control over the occupied territories in one way or another.
Ownership of property (land)in Palestine will not, as it stands, bring the Palestinians back, or have bearing on the establishment of a Palestinian state.
All rights that the Palestinians have under any law are non existent, and they are not in a position to establish a Palestinian state in any form.
They are being annihilated by every means possible precisely so that there never is a Palestinian state. The Palestinians are the “problem”, the obstacle, the Trumpericans have ruled in their determination to finally resolve the ME issue and make Israel safe. The Trumpian final solution.
In the current circumstances the Palestinian can either continue to wage a resistance and liberation struggle, or submit and become the subjects of the criminal colonial Zionist project called Israel, a UN creation and a member of the UN.

Posted by: JB | Mar 22 2025 11:55 utc | 252

March 2025 will be celebrated as the month during which the self-obsessed Superior Beings, aka the Genocide Jews, launched Israel on the path of transformation from Israel to Wasrael.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 22 2025 12:14 utc | 254

Dalit 256
Why not tell Nutcase yahoo the same?

Posted by: Giyane | Mar 22 2025 12:32 utc | 256

Posted by: pepe | Mar 22 2025 11:02 utc | 251
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The Houthis have placed an air embargo on Ben Gurion, warning all airlines that it may be unsafe to transit there.
As I thought months ago, it’s going to get much worse before it gets better.
Wait until some plane landing or taking off gets hit.
Even if no one is killed, the West will scream bloody murder, and Pete Hegseth will kill children with stand-off weapons like a true Crusader.
Israel and the Empire were never going away in a peaceful organized and moral fashion.
They will both have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the incinerator of history.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 22 2025 13:07 utc | 258

Posted by: Dalit | Mar 22 2025 12:17 utc | 256
Now back to improving the signal to noise ratio on the inevitable collapse of the shit show that is Global Industrial Civilization.
Thank you. Much appreciated.

Posted by: Andaréapié | Mar 22 2025 13:13 utc | 260

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 22 2025 13:07 utc | 259
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Totally agree with you. But notice how the US of A – installed PM in Lebanon and his new command forces seem to have sided with the Zionists to provoke a response. This morning the occupied northern territory of Israel received an unexpected bombardment from Touline. The IOF then retaliated killing tens of innocent civilians and accuses Hizbollah of conducting such actions. But evidence in the ground shows that the resistance group was not involved in the missile attacks. These attacks from the IOF using American weapons cannot be tolerated during the Holy month of Ramadan. More than 800 civilians have perished since the Zionist party chose to break ceasefire; ‘again’.

Posted by: pepe | Mar 22 2025 13:48 utc | 262

Posted by: pepe | Mar 22 2025 13:48 utc | 263
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This situation may have been an Israeli false flag.
When any Islamic group does a military action, they announce it. That precedent goes back centuries.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 22 2025 14:02 utc | 264

Posted by: Tom | Mar 22 2025 13:54 utc | 264
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I don’t believe that any of this is religiously motivated.
That might be the narrative but Jews, Christians, and Muslims have lived with each other in relative peace for most of the last 1,000 years in that region, it was the arrival of the British, French, and Americans which have caused so much recent destruction, similar to the chaos brought by the Western European Crusaders a millennia earlier.
These colonizers are not religious. They are after the same old stuff. Land, resources, and opportunities to engage in unchecked violence.
Religion is a pretext, a narrative. Atheists need to invent rationales to explain their antisocial and destructive behaviors.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 22 2025 14:11 utc | 266

@ 253 JB
Statehood is a differential, meaning it only exists by differentiation from another state.
You might have a tribe owning and ruling a territory within certain boundaries, and outside of that nothing, say desert, or just other people ambling around. It could have a name also, as is often the case. It could be called a land, or nation or country, usually ‘of’.
However it would not be a state until tied into a broader outside recognition. That recognition is primarily of borders. Those are the only tangible definition from an outside perspective, the theirs or ours.
The use of the label state is via a combined official agreement, recognition or declaratation of that definition.
The word ‘state’ might also be used independently to try to claim an as yet unrecognised reality, an aspiration, but that would not be a complete definition.
It is a very American term. In europe traditionally it is countries, principalities and so on. We talk of the German state as meaning its governance, but we talk of Germany as a country in normal conversation, for example.
When we consider USA however we have a nation of states, which does not even have a term for its own nationality, prefering to subsume into the continental term “Americans”. It does not have the traditional definitions of a country even.
That is why those who recognise the “State of Israel” are traitorous to the concept of country or nation, in this case of Palestine.
They do not have a base working definition of territory, but instead impose it via state. The territorial recognition of a country is ultimately the concern only of those co-lindent with that territory, which is a ‘peoples’ affair, a historical understanding, and tribute.
I just note this down without proof reading or going into more or clearer detail, but post it anyway as a start, because I think it is so important in recognising the conflicting views on realities regarding Palestine.
What you are looking at is two conflicting systems of recognition. One is formatted post colonial going on globalist, where there is a central authority minded view that tries to govern definitions on a world format basis via representation of an official “state format”.
The other is a traditional definition of ownership and belonging that is not based on outside recognition beyond respect for the borders, and when in that country for the organisation and ways of its people and the domestic authorities that govern that reality.
By that view Palestine exists still, is a country that has been occupied by foreign settlers who then try to superimpose their own invented definitons with outside official backing.
Which position anyone adheres to is up to them, but it is not as confusing as it might seem.
It is a distressing reality, more than confusing.

Posted by: Ornot | Mar 22 2025 14:20 utc | 268

Posted by: Ornot | Mar 22 2025 14:20 utc | 269
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Statehood is a Western concept. Divide and rule. Erase history.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 22 2025 14:31 utc | 270

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 22 2025 14:34 utc | 272
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Mass formation psychosis can look like religion to those who aren’t religious. I’ve several times argued that there is a “slot” in our brains for religion, and in the absence of religion being present, many will fill the “slot” with an ideology like Zionism, Nazism, Capitalism, Climate-Alarmism, or Exceptionalism. Proxies for truth and humanism.
Some think Atheism is enlightened and has no downside. Everything comes at a cost.
It’s naive and childish, IMO, to believe in free lunches.
A mistake most of us make more than once.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 22 2025 14:50 utc | 272

It’s naive and childish, IMO, to believe in free lunches.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 22 2025 14:50 utc | 273
Or god, for that matter. Time for humanity to gtfu and accept mortality.
To not acknowledge and accept the realities causing “climate-alarmism” one can not possibly practice Humanism.

Posted by: drinky crow | Mar 22 2025 15:38 utc | 274

Qatargate is the reason why Yahu wanted to remove the head of Shin Bet: his government officials got bribes from Qatar in exchange for the transfer of money to Hamas in Gaza in the months before October.

Posted by: Tom | Mar 22 2025 15:43 utc | 276

Posted by: Itsallsotiresome | Mar 22 2025 0:32 utc | 226
Besides what has this to do with the topic of discussion. Bigotry.

Posted by: sal | Mar 22 2025 16:00 utc | 278

Posted by: John Wick | Mar 22 2025 15:35 utc | 275
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Second class citizens with unequal rights, a well worn colonial strategy.
Give people no choice but collaboration in order to sanctify crimes against the indigenous people.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 22 2025 16:11 utc | 280

Posted by: Ornot | Mar 22 2025 16:28 utc | 283
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Amazing whitewashing of colonialism which is still going on.
A not so subtle way to reveal your cultural orientation.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 22 2025 16:35 utc | 282

” Statehood is a Western concept. Divide and rule. Erase history.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 22 2025 14:31 utc | 271 ”
That might be true, but empires are not. Those were purely invented by “indigenous” people.

Posted by: Salami | Mar 22 2025 16:42 utc | 284

Realities:
Meet Heba Iyad Abdullah Salem, who was killed along with her father a short while ago in an attack by the occupation’s artillery on the Al-Shimaa neighborhood, north of Beit Lahia.
https://t.me/NewsPs0/168124
A young man after his brother was shot in the head by an Israeli bullet, while they were fleeing the northern Gaza Strip.
https://t.me/NewsPs0/168150
Bread queues in Gaza
https://t.me/NewsPs0/168128

Posted by: Ornot | Mar 22 2025 16:51 utc | 286

Are they depleted and done?
Posted by: Salami | Mar 22 2025 16:39 utc | 285
They are and always have been less well-resourced than the entire Western Collective with whom they are at war.
These facts have proven true:
1. They have humble resources
2. The resources are eternally present and never exhausted
Draw your own conclusions further …

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 22 2025 16:55 utc | 288

” Why give anything to collapsing enemies?
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 22 2025 16:50 utc | 287 ”
” Their people are being killed yet they sit quietly. ”

Posted by: Salami | Mar 22 2025 17:00 utc | 290

” Posted by: abierno | Mar 22 2025 16:56 utc | 291 ”
That sounds like alot of hopium and wishful thinking though. Not to mention, an agreement is null and void once one party breaks the terms of said agreement, as Israel has numerous times. My question still stands.

Posted by: Salami | Mar 22 2025 17:04 utc | 292

” But, but, but, THE BABYLONIANS!!!
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 22 2025 16:53 utc | 289 ”
Silly answer. The West has been in power a tiny fraction of world history, yet you compulsively accuse it of every evil ever perpetuated. When the West is gone, someone else will take over and do the same things. BTW, do you compulsively monitor this site 24/7 as you answer almost immediately. Seems odd and suspect.

Posted by: Salami | Mar 22 2025 17:07 utc | 294

” So whatever you think Mohammad was doing back in the day was the cultural norm of the time – globally.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 22 2025 17:01 utc | 293 ”
Doesnt this also apply to colonialism and slavery then?

Posted by: Salami | Mar 22 2025 17:11 utc | 296

The West has been in power a tiny fraction of world history, yet you compulsively accuse it of every evil ever perpetuated. When the West is gone, someone else will take over and do the same things.
Posted by: Salami | Mar 22 2025 17:07 utc | 297
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When the West is gone, power will be decentralized. The monopoly on technology and money printing is coming to an end. You guys had your moment, and now it is ending.
Now the rationale has pivoted to, “You would also slaughter children if you were in charge”.
The copium is off of the charts today.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 22 2025 17:31 utc | 298

Doesnt this also apply to colonialism and slavery then?
Posted by: Salami | Mar 22 2025 17:11 utc | 299
Why should it. Different subject – so different data needs to be examined.
Wast it the case? You tell me.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 22 2025 18:00 utc | 300