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March 20, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-058
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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India has close ties to Israel and has been supporting and sending them weapons during the current war. They are pro-genocide of Palestinians. Posted by: Georgie | Mar 20 2025 21:11 utc | 101 Re: 52 – 53 Posted by: drinky crow | Mar 20 2025 21:23 utc | 102 I am amazed by (and proud of, although I have no right to be) Gazan resistance, but the Gazans are up against horrible odds. Posted by: Georgie | Mar 20 2025 21:35 utc | 103 IDF tanks enter Netzarim Corridor in Gaza Strip Posted by: Exile | Mar 20 2025 21:36 utc | 104 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljphGVQ_8aM Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 20 2025 21:44 utc | 105 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 20 2025 17:22 utc | 56 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 20 2025 21:54 utc | 106 ICJP announces prosecutions vs UK citizens participating in Gaza war crimes – likely to include Starmer Posted by: Red Star | Mar 20 2025 22:02 utc | 107 malenkov 7 Posted by: Giyane | Mar 20 2025 22:22 utc | 108 Posted by: canuck | Mar 20 2025 20:09 utc | 89 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 20 2025 22:23 utc | 109 Posted by: Georgie | Mar 20 2025 21:35 utc | 105 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 20 2025 22:37 utc | 110
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 20 2025 22:40 utc | 111 Georgie 103 Posted by: Giyane | Mar 20 2025 22:54 utc | 112 Western owned media blames hamas for derailing peace. Meanwhile Israeli media says its Israel. Posted by: Hankster | Mar 20 2025 22:59 utc | 113 114 Posted by: Giyane | Mar 20 2025 23:11 utc | 114 https://x.com/Yemenimilitary/status/1902708815482523868 Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 20 2025 23:22 utc | 115
Okay, thanks for clearly elucidating your position, as that makes things simple: I’ll just place you into the same category of disingenuous “I’m just asking questions here” barflies as gb_grave.
No, it isn’t constructive because, whether you realize it or not, you’re fighting to preserve American hegemony. The focus should be on how Westerners should stop the genocide that is armed and backed by the West. You do not get to lecture others when your own hands are bloody. And don’t try to put your bloody hands on bystanders so that the ignorant will be fooled into thinking that the bystanders are involved in the crime too.
So, which is it? Is China helping Ansarallah and Palestinians, or is China participating in the Palestinian’s genocide? Posted by: All Under Heaven | Mar 20 2025 23:48 utc | 116 Posted by: All Under Heaven | Mar 20 2025 23:48 utc | 118 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 20 2025 23:55 utc | 117 Posted by: All Under Heaven | Mar 20 2025 23:48 utc | 118 Posted by: David G Horsman | Mar 21 2025 0:34 utc | 118 Here’s the thought. I can meditate for hours it’s a lovely thing. You could say I’m deeply spiritual and nature. I was jokingly known as The Atheist follower of Christ. Posted by: David G Horsman | Mar 21 2025 0:40 utc | 119 @118 All Under Heaven Posted by: Ornot | Mar 21 2025 1:38 utc | 121 Reading through european mainstream media, Palestine/Middle East is hardly present at all. It is not just that Russia/EU re-armament is taking headlines, but on those I checked for France, Italy and Spain several other stories are following, and only on one or two a small side column is then offered about ‘ceasefire’ or similar. Posted by: Ornot | Mar 21 2025 2:28 utc | 122 ” I had to intervene because I know what that rat fink gb_grave is trying to do here and pushing back against it is better than letting it spread unchallenged.” Posted by: David G Horsman | Mar 21 2025 2:34 utc | 123 Excuse my mangled grammar. When I get tired I fail to enunciate clearly and also lose my ability to spot those damn errors. Perhaps artificial stupidity would be a better label for what we’re living with. Posted by: David G Horsman | Mar 21 2025 2:36 utc | 124 Hamas time has come. Time to take out the garbage. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 21 2025 2:36 utc | 125 Posted by: Georgie | Mar 20 2025 21:35 utc | 105 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 21 2025 2:48 utc | 126 As Israeli society continues to unravel, the IDF is having a hard time mustering troops to go back into Gaza. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 2:56 utc | 127 Hamas time has come. Time to take out the garbage. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 21 2025 2:59 utc | 128 Someone earlier was arguing that one missile from Ansar Allah is pointless. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 3:06 utc | 129 Hezbollah did something similar in the North of Palestine. All of the settlers had to leave, abandoning their homes and businesses. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 3:12 utc | 130 israel first Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 21 2025 4:00 utc | 131 Posted by: All Under Heaven | Mar 20 2025 23:48 utc | 118 Posted by: Menz | Mar 21 2025 4:37 utc | 132 Posted by: Menz | Mar 21 2025 4:37 utc | 134 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 5:26 utc | 133 Following up on that, the biggest betrayals were from Qatar, UAE, and KSA normalizing. They didn’t have to attack Israel. They could have passive-aggressively let the Zionists struggle. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 5:29 utc | 134 Supporting a “Two State Solution” however, means naught to me and most from the “Global South” who lived and grew up under some of the most atrocious colonial rule. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 21 2025 6:06 utc | 135 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 20 2025 13:14 utc | 9 Posted by: Marija | Mar 21 2025 6:07 utc | 136 Posted by: Marija | Mar 21 2025 6:07 utc | 138 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 6:15 utc | 137 Someone earlier was arguing that one missile from Ansar Allah is pointless. Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 21 2025 6:17 utc | 138 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 21 2025 6:17 utc | 140 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 6:32 utc | 139 Posted by: David G Horsman | Mar 21 2025 0:34 utc | 120 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 6:37 utc | 140 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 5:26 utc | 135 Posted by: Menz | Mar 21 2025 7:22 utc | 141 Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 21 2025 6:06 utc | 137 Posted by: Menz | Mar 21 2025 7:28 utc | 142 Posted by: All Under Heaven | Mar 20 2025 23:48 utc | 118
The only requirement for ships to pass through in 2024 was that they were not going to Israel. There is nothing special about those Chinese ships passing through because they made it clear they were not going to Israel. They sent out notices like: “No connection to Israel”. Lots of ships from other countries passed through. Only Western propaganda made it seem like all ships were banned.
The Newsmax report is nonsense on the basis that they claimed the reason Chinese ships were allowed a safe passage was due to China selling arms to Ansar Allah. The “anonymous sources” in that article are anti-China and want to somehow make it seem like they are involved in the Red Sea battle while the reality is that China has nothing to do with it. Their goal is to justify putting further sanctions on China.
A genocide is taking place. Men, women and children are being killed while in tents. This conversation should not only revolve around the aggressors and victims. We are constantly being told about this alternative to the current global system. Multipolarity. These are defining times and what are these 3 super powers doing? They are enabling a genocide by supporting a colonial country that the current global powers are breaking all their so called international laws to defend and help in the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians. Posted by: Georgie | Mar 21 2025 7:52 utc | 143 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 5:29 utc | 136 Posted by: Georgie | Mar 21 2025 8:01 utc | 144 I had to intervene because I know what that rat fink gb_grave is trying to do here and pushing back against it is better than letting it spread unchallenged. Posted by: gb_grave | Mar 21 2025 8:14 utc | 145 A NEW AWARD: “The Most Immoral and Evil Post of the Day: The inaugural winner of the award goes to John whom does not possess a soul:: Posted by: gb_grave | Mar 21 2025 8:14 utc | 147 Posted by: JB | Mar 21 2025 10:55 utc | 147 Correction to my post Mar 21 2025 10:55 utc | 149 Posted by: JB | Mar 21 2025 11:00 utc | 148 Posted by: Exile | Mar 20 2025 21:36 utc | 106 “Arch will have his hands full updating the Metkava Tally” Posted by: Ed4 | Mar 21 2025 11:38 utc | 149 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 3:12 utc | 132 “But those people who fled the North refused to go back.” Posted by: Ed4 | Mar 21 2025 11:43 utc | 150 Posted by: Menz | Mar 21 2025 7:28 utc | 144 Posted by: Mario | Mar 21 2025 12:26 utc | 151 Why don’t Jews overthrow the Zionist entity?
Why don’t Jews overthrow the Zionist entity? Posted by: Otto Penn | Mar 21 2025 12:43 utc | 152 Arch Bungle 137 Posted by: Giyane | Mar 21 2025 12:43 utc | 153 Posted by: Otto Penn | Mar 21 2025 12:43 utc | 154 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 12:57 utc | 154 The genocide is not Russia and China’s problems to fix. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 13:22 utc | 155
🍿🍿🍿 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 13:30 utc | 156 The far-right and extremist Likud government in Israel is falling apart and DJT and captain of the Titanic is assisting the demise of not only Netanyahoo’s government but also Israel and its shrinking society. Posted by: pepe | Mar 21 2025 13:33 utc | 157 The far-right and extremist Likud government in Israel is falling apart Posted by: malenkov | Mar 21 2025 13:40 utc | 158 https://x.com/boycatapp/status/1902418515304353866 Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 21 2025 13:43 utc | 159 Posted by: malenkov | Mar 21 2025 13:40 utc | 160 Posted by: pepe | Mar 21 2025 13:49 utc | 160 Journalist Youssef Fares Posted by: Ornot | Mar 21 2025 13:54 utc | 161 Posted by: Georgie | Mar 21 2025 8:01 utc | 146 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 14:11 utc | 162 israel, the USA, the UK and most of Europe are cesspools of lies, corruption, fake virtues, hypocrisy and are filled with warmongering fools and neo-nazis, vapid intellectuals and genocidal Elites. you know, typical Western Values® Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 21 2025 14:12 utc | 163 When the occupation is ended, Palestine will flourish until the next round of Crusaders arrive to spread evil in the Holy Land, as they always seem to do. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 14:21 utc | 164 michaelj72 161 Posted by: Giyane | Mar 21 2025 14:38 utc | 165 “Dear Arab brothers, there is a Death train coming, and it’s coming from Tel Aviv, the UN will not stop it, the Red Cross will not stop it” Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 14:43 utc | 166 Larry C Johnson Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 21 2025 15:08 utc | 167 “Until you can practice “Theory of Mind” much of reality will remain inaccessible to you.” Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 21 2025 15:13 utc | 168 “Air defense breakdown forcing US out of Red Sea.” Larry C Johnson Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Mar 21 2025 15:22 utc | 169 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 21 2025 15:13 utc | 170 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 15:26 utc | 170 Posted by: MorePain4Cakes | Mar 21 2025 15:22 utc | 171 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 15:31 utc | 171 LoveDonbas (172). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 21 2025 15:36 utc | 172 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 21 2025 15:36 utc | 174 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 15:43 utc | 173 LoveDonbas (175). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 21 2025 15:55 utc | 175 Netanyahoo’s cancer is spreading. Posted by: malenkov | Mar 21 2025 16:01 utc | 176 Posted by: Ralpheaterofcheese | Mar 20 2025 19:13 utc | 81 Posted by: MIKHAILCHEESEFACTORY | Mar 21 2025 16:01 utc | 177 Maybe god will smite down the Orange Zionist POTUS -Trump – somehow I doubt it. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 21 2025 16:07 utc | 178 @ LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 15:31 utc | 173 Posted by: EoinW | Mar 21 2025 16:12 utc | 179 Netanyahoo’s cancer is spreading. Posted by: Otto Penn | Mar 21 2025 16:16 utc | 180 The Western backed proscribed terrorist group (HTS) leaders, and war criminals, met with one of their backers (Germany) warhawks. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 21 2025 16:32 utc | 181 “Jews ,Jews everywhere, Not sure what is to be made of it, but there is pushback in otherwise institutional pro-Israel circles against the attempted narrative of holding Hamas solely responsible for breakdown of ceasefire negotiations. Posted by: jayc | Mar 21 2025 16:47 utc | 183 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 21 2025 15:55 utc | 177 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 17:05 utc | 184 4:10, a short video Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 17:37 utc | 185 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 17:05 utc | 186
So here I am inserting the Easter bunny in your reasoning and, sure enough, I can’t prove a negative either. Posted by: robin | Mar 21 2025 17:59 utc | 186 “One of several issues with your “thinking” is that the absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 21 2025 18:53 utc | 187 “Anti-Genocide equals antisemitism” Posted by: Otto Penn | Mar 21 2025 19:01 utc | 188 As far as I make out, people are pretty much left to figure it all out for themselves. This could be understood as a living creation that discovers its own meaning. Posted by: Ornot | Mar 21 2025 19:27 utc | 189 And then there are those who have no qualm in destroying the next person, or the world around, if they find gain in doing so… Posted by: Ornot | Mar 21 2025 19:31 utc | 190 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 17:05 utc | 186 You didn’t invent these but…
If you’ve looked for the evidence, then not finding it really is evidence of absence.
Finding evidence for an alternative explanation does refute the purported explanation with no evidence. The moves the burden of proof to the proponent of the refuted hypothesis or so-called negative. You cannot simply cite an abstract proposition like it’s impossible to prove a negative, you have to provide evidence for the alternative(s.) Or, undermine the disproof by citing other relevant facts. You could call it an application of the principle of sufficient evidence? The so-called negative has to have a reason or cause to be a genuine hypothesis, meaning in this exchange, evidence. And an empty phrase about disproving a negative doesn’t refute evidence for the alternative. Posted by: steven t johnson | Mar 21 2025 19:37 utc | 191 Forgot to add to @193 “There is no God” is refutable when you understand that this proposition is equivalent to the claim, “There is evidence and argument (reason) to believe in God.” Posted by: steven t johnson | Mar 21 2025 19:39 utc | 192 @IDontFitInUrBox Posted by: Menz | Mar 21 2025 20:15 utc | 193 Assal Rad Posted by: Menz | Mar 21 2025 20:15 utc | 194 asad abukhalil أسعد أبو خليل Posted by: Menz | Mar 21 2025 20:17 utc | 195 Drop Site Posted by: Menz | Mar 21 2025 20:18 utc | 196 https://x.com/ireallyhateyou/status/1902775643361689654 Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 21 2025 20:18 utc | 197 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 21 2025 18:53 utc | 189 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 21 2025 20:19 utc | 198 Drop Site Posted by: Menz | Mar 21 2025 20:19 utc | 199 Drop Site Posted by: Menz | Mar 21 2025 20:21 utc | 200 |
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