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March 20, 2025
Palestine Open Thread 2025-058
News & views related to the war in Palestine …
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Death Toll From Israel’s Renewed Offensive on Gaza Rises to 970 Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 20 2025 12:02 utc | 1 Muslim action against zionist genocid of Suny Gaza Stip is only comming Shia Houtis, Shia Ezbolah and Shia Iran. Where is the Suny-Shia religion cleavage? Posted by: Antonio Ferrao | Mar 20 2025 12:05 utc | 2 From Caitlin Johnstone article this morning:
Posted by: Otto Penn | Mar 20 2025 12:09 utc | 3 This is the second Jewish Holocaust. Posted by: Otto Penn | Mar 20 2025 12:14 utc | 4 US Stages Fresh Attacks on Yemen as Trump Vows to ‘Annihilate’ Ansarullah in Support of Israel Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 20 2025 12:16 utc | 5 Judge Nap and his guests are completely missing one central point: the Bible is the foundation myth for the whole “pilgrims helped by god find the promised land” and exterminate the Cananeans/Indians/Aborigenes/Zulus… This is the very definition of Wasp identity and their belief in the divine plan making them richer than others. The god of Mammon indeed. Too dumb too understand the Bible in fact, or to care about the 10 commandments and the respect for women and children. Posted by: Tom | Mar 20 2025 12:30 utc | 6 @ Tom | Mar 20 2025 12:30 utc | 6 Posted by: malenkov | Mar 20 2025 12:36 utc | 7 Which is worse, losing your body or your soul? Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 20 2025 13:06 utc | 8 Posted by: Tom | Mar 20 2025 12:30 utc | 6 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 20 2025 13:14 utc | 9 President Donald Trump vowed to destroy the Arab peninsula nation’s Ansarullah popular resistance movement Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 20 2025 13:20 utc | 10 “I don’t blame people for hoping Trump would end all the wars continuing over from the Biden Administration – no matter how unreasonable that was and no matter how involved Trump himself was in preparing for and provoking these wars during the previous term… Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 20 2025 13:29 utc | 11 The Bible is indeed a collection of various legends of all origins but adapted as a national god. There are so many contradictions in each page that it makes no sense at all. The reason i was mentioning the ten commandments is that usually people dont read book entirely but they retain some elements that are supposed to be more important. Posted by: Tom | Mar 20 2025 13:39 utc | 12 Hmmm, no mal-intention here: Posted by: teri | Mar 20 2025 13:43 utc | 13 The newest round of atrocities relates to Israeli domestic politics and has nothing to do with Hamas. Posted by: Polli | Mar 20 2025 13:45 utc | 14 Repeating the set of local Palestine links…. Posted by: Ornot | Mar 20 2025 14:11 utc | 15 Posted by: Polli | Mar 20 2025 13:45 utc | 14 “@ Tom | Mar 20 2025 12:30 utc | 6 Many people talking today about Erdogan being done. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 20 2025 14:24 utc | 19 …but kindly please explain why do the Zionists want to ‘increase world wide anti-Semitism”?
Which is more potent, Posted by: Otto Penn | Mar 20 2025 14:33 utc | 20 Riots in Turkiye, Morocco, and Israel Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 20 2025 14:36 utc | 21 @Posted by: canuck | Mar 20 2025 14:19 utc | 18 Posted by: Otto Penn | Mar 20 2025 14:40 utc | 22 @Posted by: Otto Penn | Mar 20 2025 14:40 utc | 22 Posted by: Otto Penn | Mar 20 2025 14:45 utc | 23 @Posted by: John Wick | Mar 20 2025 14:48 utc | 24 Posted by: Otto Penn | Mar 20 2025 14:53 utc | 24 Pepe Escobar Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 20 2025 15:16 utc | 25 @ canuck | Mar 20 2025 14:11 utc | 16 Posted by: Cabe | Mar 20 2025 15:24 utc | 26 Posted by: Cabe | Mar 20 2025 15:24 utc | 27 Posted by: Otto Penn | Mar 20 2025 14:40 utc | 22 Posted by: bassplayer | Mar 20 2025 15:45 utc | 28 Daily I see videos of pro-palestinian demonstrations in European cities: Ireland, Italy, Sweden, Britain, Germany. All the Govts in these countries are silent or lukewarm towards the renewed bombing in Gaza. There are also protests in countries such as Turkiye, Egypt, Jordan. The Govts of Russia, China, and India also seem to be lukewarm to the disaster. But has anyone seen any videos of pro-palestinian protests in these countries? If you have, please share the links here. If not, why not? Why are the “big powers” and their people silent? Anyone? Posted by: gb_grave | Mar 20 2025 15:46 utc | 29 I half-heard an interesting item on the news tonight which said that Wasrael is one of the happiest cuntries on Earth. It was such a surprise that I asked Jewgle if it’s true? And, Jewgle replied: Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 20 2025 15:51 utc | 30 I suspect the reason a lot of the “Big Guys” aren’t doing anything is that they know Israel has nukes. A lot of nukes and they are totally unhinged. The Samson Directive means that if they start losing, they take the world down with them and they are nuts enough to mean it. I’m not sure that even a decapitation strike would deter them from ending the world. So, there’s that, I guess. What do you do with the crazy neighbor who doesn’t mind being taken out as long as he takes you out with him? Posted by: GK | Mar 20 2025 15:52 utc | 31 @30 gb_grave Posted by: Ornot | Mar 20 2025 15:56 utc | 32 “Destroying” Ansar Allah and/or Iran.. does anyone happen to know how high the bill for the last three days of bombing might be? Posted by: SOS | Mar 20 2025 15:57 utc | 33 “So did the Israelite god violate the Ten Commandments when he ordered the extermination of the peoples of Canaan?” Posted by: Simon | Mar 20 2025 15:59 utc | 34 @ Posted by: canuck | Mar 20 2025 14:19 utc | 18 Posted by: malenkov | Mar 20 2025 16:02 utc | 35 Tom@1230 Vernal Equinox Highest Holy Day in natural calendar Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 20 2025 16:05 utc | 36 Tom@1339 Vernal Equinox highest Holy Day. Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 20 2025 16:11 utc | 37 Teri@1343 Vernal Equinox…the highest Holy Day. Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 20 2025 16:15 utc | 38 “Needless to say, I am as big a fan of Ansar Allah as I am of Herbert. To my mind, Ansar Allah is everything that a Muslim is meant to be. Brave, honorable, fierce, pious, and protecting the oppressed with their lives.” Posted by: David G Horsman | Mar 20 2025 16:15 utc | 39 canuck@1419 on the most high Holy Day, the Vernal Equinox…celebrated by all those who know. Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 20 2025 16:28 utc | 40 A Handful of Stories Posted by: Simon | Mar 20 2025 16:36 utc | 41 Love Donbass@1436 on this most Holy of holidays…the Vernal Equinox which heralds the year 47 Anno Eros. Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 20 2025 16:40 utc | 42 @ 38 I have always believed Moses based the 10 commandments on the Egyptian Book Of The Dead. Posted by: golddigger | Mar 20 2025 16:44 utc | 43 Otto Penn on this most Holy of all natural holidays, the Vernal Equinox Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 20 2025 16:46 utc | 44 No surprises here I think – Carter must eb fine with the Zionists committing genocide. If I recall correctly these “Military Co-operation Agrrements with the Zionists used to have to be renewed every ten years – until the last one that is, which I think is now a permanent deal – so Britain is now tied to the Zionists military machine permanently. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 20 2025 16:46 utc | 45 @30 gb_grave Posted by: gb_grave | Mar 20 2025 16:50 utc | 46 To add to the discussion about why it’s (spoken and unspoken) Israeli state policy to increase the perception of anti-Semitism (or in reality “Jew hate”) around the world, it is important to understand that part of the approach is weaponizing “anti-Semitism.” This serves to make critical discussion of Israeli policy toward the Palestinians much more difficult. A “thought ender” to put it another way. And by extension in compliant third party governments (US, UK, Germany, Australia, etc.), there can be no “politics of accountability” on Israeli actions. Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 20 2025 16:52 utc | 47 Year 4017-4047 Posted by: Simon | Mar 20 2025 16:54 utc | 48 John Wick@1448 on this most Holy holiday of this today New Year of 47 Anno Eros Posted by: aristodemos | Mar 20 2025 16:56 utc | 49 IDF tanks enter Netzarim Corridor in Gaza Strip, sources confirm Posted by: Dogon Priest | Mar 20 2025 16:56 utc | 50 Two – points here – where did the Yemeni forces get the hypersonic missile – and why did they only launch one missile instead of a barrage of missiles – was it a token gesture – in response to the Zio-Monsters murder of hundreds of Palestinian civilians the other day? Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 20 2025 16:58 utc | 51 Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 20 2025 16:58 utc | 52 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 20 2025 17:11 utc | 52 Canuk 16 Posted by: Polli | Mar 20 2025 17:13 utc | 53 We have an inkling that most EU governments – don’t actually care about the fate of the Palestinian people, or they feel they cannot change anything – or they are actively aiding the Zio-Monsters, like Britain and Germany – but what of say, Russia and China, two powerful nations with some clout – does Xi and Putin think that the Palestinian people are not worth any intervention? Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 20 2025 17:15 utc | 54 “Yemen is not trying to physically destroy Israel. It wants Israel to collapse and go away. That is how they make sure Israel is “finished”.” Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 20 2025 17:22 utc | 55 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 20 2025 13:14 utc | 9 Posted by: CeaClearly | Mar 20 2025 17:31 utc | 56 Posted by: Cabe | Mar 20 2025 15:24 utc | 27 Posted by: pepe | Mar 20 2025 17:31 utc | 57 Just read this; Posted by: saner | Mar 20 2025 17:39 utc | 58 The tendency to refer to Houthis as rebels brings me to ask why it’s not the group in Aden (Presidential Leadership Council I think is the current jargon) that is not regarded as a foreign intervention, that is, the true rebels. Posted by: steven t johnson | Mar 20 2025 17:40 utc | 59 Empty and hollow words from the UNSG – on the Israeli genocide – Guterres has publicly said that there hope for Syria now the new government is in place – bear in mind that the “new government” is a proscribed terrorist group backed by the West – this head-chopping group, is currently committing atrocities and war crimes against humanity in Syria – yet the UNSG Guterres, who sent a UN delegate to meet and greet the chief head-chopper, sees hope in Syria. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 20 2025 17:40 utc | 60 @47 gb_grave Posted by: Ornot | Mar 20 2025 17:46 utc | 61 Netanyahu gave a gold beeper to Trump when the two had their conjugal visit a month or so back. He also gave a silver beeper to John Fetterman. Posted by: teri | Mar 20 2025 17:49 utc | 62 @aristodemos re: Desolation Row Posted by: Straightwalker | Mar 20 2025 17:58 utc | 63 @62 Ornot Posted by: Ornot | Mar 20 2025 18:07 utc | 64 @Republicofscotland @ 61 re Romeo Dallaire Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 20 2025 18:13 utc | 65 Aren’t the majority of Palestinians Sunni Muslims? Why are the Sunni Muslims sitting on their d|cks while their co-religionists are getting slaughtered in Palestine? Why are the Shia (Iran, Houthis, etc..) doing all the heavy lifting? Posted by: bored | Mar 20 2025 18:14 utc | 66
Oh hey, it’s you again! I really love your posting style of feigned ignorance, “I’m just asking questions here”, that serves as a pretext to attack Russia, China and India, who conveniently are the geopolitical and economic rivals of the West.
No, you do not know. The fact that you’re repeating another genocidal campaign shows that you as an entire society do not know your own history and the full extent of your complicity in the erasure of the Palestinians. The fact that you’re working hard to divert attention and blame to the West’s geopolitical and economic enemies who are not participants in the genocide shows that you do not know. Posted by: All Under Heaven | Mar 20 2025 18:14 utc | 67
My apologies for the lengthy diatribe. Bad habit. Let me dumb things down for you:
Posted by: All Under Heaven | Mar 20 2025 18:16 utc | 68 Senator Black discusses the results of of US foreign policy. Posted by: Ralpheaterofcheese | Mar 20 2025 18:17 utc | 69 Electronic Intifada Livestream: Day 531. Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 20 2025 18:23 utc | 70 “@ Posted by: canuck | Mar 20 2025 14:19 utc | 18 Aren’t the majority of Palestinians Sunni Muslims? Why are the Sunni Muslims sitting on their d|cks while their co-religionists are getting slaughtered in Palestine? Why are the Shia (Iran, Houthis, etc..) doing all the heavy lifting? Posted by: Arch Bungle | Mar 20 2025 18:29 utc | 72 @Posted by: teri | Mar 20 2025 13:43 utc | 13
https://www.israelhayom.com/2023/11/23/unit-8200-could-have-save-israel-from-oct-7-why-hasnt-it-owned-up-to-its-failure/
The amount of Hamas’ radio traffic would have gone through the roof as they began to assemble and coordinate into launch areas. Posted by: Otto Penn | Mar 20 2025 18:30 utc | 73 “The religious crazies want to pressure these people.”
China practices democratic centralism like a true Marxist-Leninist party. Xi Jinping is not some president for life. If you can’t do research in the primary language, at least get some perspective from Chinese media that publishes in English:
I know you heart is in the right place, but you perspective on China is too often informed by Western media. I have also refrained from trying to correct in other matters, like your erroneous claim of China’s governance being religiously influenced because of lingering Confucianism. Posted by: All Under Heaven | Mar 20 2025 18:41 utc | 75 Long Form (Ep 3):’Dismantling International Law’ (& vid) Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 20 2025 18:55 utc | 76 OK; but by that, per4haps myopic declaration you basically admit you have never really, or never will, have Faith- unless, until you value Kierkegaard’s insight on this issue. Posted by: malenkov | Mar 20 2025 19:02 utc | 77 John Gilberts (67). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 20 2025 19:06 utc | 78 Russia China and Iran are chilling because of the Chinese military buildout. China is using its production capability to build military with technical assistance from Russia. Every day that passes the new ChIRu alliance grows stronger. Of course they hope that the USA can mature into a healthy responsible nation that respects other nations and cultures but they are also realists. IMO the idea that ChIRu alliance can be separated and Iran taken down is very unlikely. Whatever path ensures best chances of winning WW3 will be taken. Nuclear weapons complicate this. What constitutes winning. Nuclear weapons are a unprecedented challenge for humanity. With many millennia of war as a solution suddenly war becomes suicidal. Humanity has shown very little ability to adapt to this which at its base is technology growth beyond humanity’s ability to control its consequences. Technological growth is exponential and the inability to control its consequences is exponential also. WW3 will of course end industrial civilization and quite possibly also result in the extinction of the human species. War the quintessential solution fo solving differences simply is no longer possible without extinct event. War has been relied upon as the solution to near everything. fundamental cultural and religious differences. Resource allotment. Suddenly and without warning the primary tool of humanity has become suicide. The phenomena of the EU occurs well we will just get rid of war we will dictate everything. Dictating everything is of course the primary reason for war. We witness attempts to limit wars to small non nuclear armed countries but basically humanity has no replacement for war other than solutions that represent the return of slavery on a scale and scope previously unknown. A fundamental freedom is I would rather war than accept slavery. Agreements and alliances are fine but what has made them work is if someone violates them there is war. The fundamental conundrum is now this freedom which is fully understood as valid has become a new question. If war is now extinction is slavery inevitable? Alternative solutions to war are regarded with a great deal of justifiable suspicion and almost no real attempts at solutions acceptable to all nations have been made . Technology expands exponentially while humanities ability to adapt remains linear. The probable outcome is not favorable for humanity’s continuation. No where is this more observable than in Israel and North Korea nuclear armed countries that will certainly destroy all rather than accept domination. Humanity has not come to terms with the reality that every nuclear armed nation is now a terrorist nation by definition. The ubiquitous policy of use of nuclear weapons to counter a “existential threat” is terrorism by definition. Posted by: Ralpheaterofcheese | Mar 20 2025 19:13 utc | 79 The IOF has officially entered Rafah 3 minutes ago. Posted by: pepe | Mar 20 2025 19:21 utc | 80 @69 All Under Heaven Posted by: Ornot | Mar 20 2025 19:43 utc | 81 Posted by: Ralpheaterofcheese | Mar 20 2025 19:13 utc | 81 Trump’s Prosecution of Speech: Academics Arrested Following Mahmoud Khalil Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 20 2025 20:00 utc | 83 OK; but by that, per4haps myopic declaration you basically admit you have never really, or never will, have Faith- unless, until you value Kierkegaard’s insight on this issue. No Faith in your partner? In Gold? Death and taxes? Zionists are always Evil? Surely, there is some faith even if it isn’t in the Gods themselves? Posted by: malenkov | Mar 20 2025 20:06 utc | 85 @ canuck | Mar 20 2025 20:01 utc | 86 Posted by: malenkov | Mar 20 2025 20:08 utc | 86 Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 20 2025 16:52 utc | 48 I am worried that the genocide that Israel and Trump have been threatening against Gaza will be carried out with the MOAB fuel-air bombs the U.S. supplied Israel. These are weapons of mass destruction. Posted by: Edward Q | Mar 20 2025 20:11 utc | 88 John Gilberts (85). Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 20 2025 20:12 utc | 89 Drop Site Posted by: Menz | Mar 20 2025 20:13 utc | 90 “No Faith in your partner? In Gold? Death and taxes? Zionists are always Evil? Surely, there is some faith even if it isn’t in the Gods themselves?” see the 41-second video at the first link Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 20 2025 20:18 utc | 92 Although in Kierkegaard’s terms any Faith if it be metaphysical (big (‘F’), or interpersonal (small ‘f’), there is the idea that ‘believing’ in anything but yourself, without reason, depending solely on emotion, is a type of faith that is indistinguishable from ‘belief’ Posted by: malenkov | Mar 20 2025 20:20 utc | 93 STOP PUTTING IT ALL ON NETANYAHU Posted by: malenkov | Mar 20 2025 20:24 utc | 94
No, the questions are not valid.
And let me give context to the quote:
The questions from gb_grave are neither innocent nor valid. Posted by: All Under Heaven | Mar 20 2025 20:30 utc | 95 Bibi and the radical war cabinet are making a fundamental mistake here. Posted by: tobias cole | Mar 20 2025 20:32 utc | 96 @ tobias cole | Mar 20 2025 20:32 utc | 98 Posted by: malenkov | Mar 20 2025 20:37 utc | 97 @Republicofscotland #91: Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 20 2025 20:43 utc | 98 Jonathan Cook: Israel Doesn’t Care About the Captives Posted by: John Gilberts | Mar 20 2025 20:49 utc | 99 @97 All Under Heaven Posted by: Ornot | Mar 20 2025 21:09 utc | 100 |
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