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March 5, 2025
Open (Neither Ukraine Nor Palestine) Thread 2025-044
News & views not related to the wars in Ukraine and Palestine …
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“Most scientists tell us that neurons in our brain, by neural activity, speak these words in our mind as we read this. But that is a black box answer, i.e., that is no different than saying thoughts are caused by a black box. There is no explanatory power in saying neural activity or a black box. Why do they answer like that? Posted by: kana | Mar 5 2025 17:34 utc | 1 Panama is done,
Posted by: denk | Mar 5 2025 17:37 utc | 2 My thoughts on the new tariff war, one that easily and quickly escalate and severely damage the relationship of the US with its vassals. Also, the US has no way of winning a tariff war with China (and Russia, Iran and North Korea are already so sanctioned that tariffs are irrelevant) – that’s why its beating up on the smaller kids; both the poorer citizens at home who will predominantly suffer from the tariffs and the weaker vassal states. Posted by: Roger Boyd | Mar 5 2025 17:41 utc | 3 @Posted by: kana | Mar 5 2025 17:34 utc | 1 Posted by: Roger Boyd | Mar 5 2025 17:44 utc | 4 My thoughts on the new tariff war, Posted by: too scents | Mar 5 2025 17:55 utc | 5 Posted by: kana | Mar 5 2025 17:34 utc | 1 This is nonsense. Infants don’t think, as everyone can testify that they don’t remember being an infant. That’s because their brains are required for thinking. Brain damage and brain death stops thinking, which proves the need for a brain to think. One desperate expedient is for some mystics is to claim the brain is a receiver for inputs from a nonmaterial entity (usually unnamed, as saying soul is too nakedly religious.) The thing is, sensory input is required for thinking (dreams are not rational because they lack sensory input.) Brains do not rely on nonmaterial entities giving them information. And if the brain is required to send information to the nonmaterial entity, how could they do that except by being somehow nonmaterial in themselves? Worse for your ilk, there is no trace of any special receptors or transmitters for this hypothetical relationship between an unobservable nonmaterial entity. Posted by: steven t johnson | Mar 5 2025 18:10 utc | 6 @Posted by: too scents | Mar 5 2025 17:55 utc | 5 Posted by: Roger Boyd | Mar 5 2025 18:24 utc | 7 The Joint Session was more like a Pep Rally. There’s no comparison between Putin’s 2024 Leap Day Address to the Federal Assembly just prior to Russia’s election and last night’s performance by Trump. Here’s Putin’s opening paragraph: Infants don’t think, as everyone can testify that they don’t remember being an infant. That’s because their brains are required for thinking. Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 5 2025 18:40 utc | 9 Posted by: kana | Mar 5 2025 17:34 utc | 1 Posted by: Zet | Mar 5 2025 18:45 utc | 10 Ha – the nasty warhawk/Zionist von der Leyen’s Re-Arm Europe Programme – isn’t backed by cash – each EU country will need to find the cash – most likely by cutting public services to the bone. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 5 2025 18:47 utc | 11 Elon Musk is the Reason Social Security is “Running Out of Money” Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Mar 5 2025 18:49 utc | 12 Economics in a full monetary sovereign country is never about money. It is AlWAYS each and every time about your skills and real resources and productive capacity of your country. Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Mar 5 2025 18:56 utc | 13 But ideologues always make it about money. Posted by: too scents | Mar 5 2025 18:59 utc | 14 @ kana | Mar 5 2025 17:34 utc | 1 with a pile on against linking to such ignorance… Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 5 2025 19:07 utc | 15 An admission – that the German car industry has been badly damaged, due to Germany’s stance against Russia. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 5 2025 19:10 utc | 16 The usually mild mannered Chinese, released this statement – via its Washington Embassy ten hours ago; meanwhile China has upped its strategic stockpiling – of all manner of reserves. Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 5 2025 19:24 utc | 17 Digg is resurrecting itself. Posted by: librul | Mar 5 2025 19:27 utc | 18
Suddenly … Kryptonite! Posted by: too scents | Mar 5 2025 19:28 utc | 19 Judge Nap has been unpluged. There is a short video on his yt channel and no interview for today. Posted by: Tom | Mar 5 2025 19:29 utc | 20 Digg is resurrecting itself. Posted by: too scents | Mar 5 2025 19:30 utc | 21 Posted by: Roger Boyd | Mar 5 2025 17:44 utc | 4 Posted by: Roberto | Mar 5 2025 19:42 utc | 22 Kana’s objections are very valid. Posted by: too scents | Mar 5 2025 19:47 utc | 23 @ Roberto | Mar 5 2025 19:42 utc | 22 who wrote Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 5 2025 19:54 utc | 24 Rwandan military and the M23 rebels they back are still advancing in South Kivu and about to collide with Burundi troops. https://www.reuters.com/graphics/CONGO-SECURITY/MAPS/movaykzaava/ Posted by: subpar | Mar 5 2025 19:54 utc | 25
ugh.
yikes.
and threaten everyone with a repeat of the “Heidegger Debate” we all enjoyed in the summer of 2023. Posted by: persiflo | Mar 5 2025 20:03 utc | 26 Realism … Ben Norton Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 5 2025 20:07 utc | 27 @Posted by: kana | Mar 5 2025 17:34 utc | 1 Posted by: KOB | Mar 5 2025 20:09 utc | 28 A great video (from the Geopolitical Economy Report) on how Trump is trying to limit China while delivering benefits to his oligarch friends. In this case Blackrock, that has now been able to purchase the Panama Canal ports from their Hong King owners. Posted by: Roger Boyd | Mar 5 2025 20:11 utc | 29 Such is still only by virtue of deduction! Posted by: too scents | Mar 5 2025 20:13 utc | 30 @Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 5 2025 19:07 utc | 15 Posted by: KOB | Mar 5 2025 20:14 utc | 31 Whatever happened to macroscopic entanglement?
They laughed/laugh/laughing at homeopathy:
The past is the future and the present doesn’t exist. Posted by: librul | Mar 5 2025 20:14 utc | 32 @Posted by: too scents | Mar 5 2025 20:13 utc | 30 Posted by: KOB | Mar 5 2025 20:18 utc | 33 kana managed to inspire a lively debate on the topic of the mind Posted by: petergrfstrm | Mar 5 2025 20:20 utc | 34 @Posted by: librul | Mar 5 2025 20:14 utc | 32 Posted by: KOB | Mar 5 2025 20:20 utc | 35 @Posted by: petergrfstrm | Mar 5 2025 20:20 utc | 34 Posted by: KOB | Mar 5 2025 20:22 utc | 36 We have to look outside the box. Posted by: too scents | Mar 5 2025 20:24 utc | 37 @Posted by: too scents | Mar 5 2025 20:24 utc | 37 Posted by: KOB | Mar 5 2025 20:30 utc | 38 @librul | Mar 5 2025 20:14 utc | 32 Posted by: petergrfstrm | Mar 5 2025 20:36 utc | 39 Show me where he explains that. Posted by: too scents | Mar 5 2025 20:37 utc | 40
This explains nothing, as Husserl explains. For what good are rules if they are beyond attainable limits of concept? It’s as good to assume them as it is not to; Occam’s razor applies. Common ground would be found in the term meta-logic, which in maths denounces that which can’t be put into the axioms which produce a ‘model’ of some formal system, to use parlance. It is like an open horizon which you can’t cross to gaze beyond, in some way. But the distinction is important: while in the first case, the ultimate guarantor of reality is ascribed to an unseen formal set of rules, in the latter case it is consciousness itself which serves as first and last refuge of all reflections upon so-called ‘reality’. Posted by: persiflo | Mar 5 2025 20:39 utc | 41 I’ve never seen the Chinese so harsh and blunt, at least post 1972 CPC, they are usually exceptionally tempered and diplomatic, this is very stern so early in the Trump admin, it suggests they have made their mind up about him – and letting him know that: Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 5 2025 20:44 utc | 42 @LightYearsFromHome | Mar 5 2025 20:44 utc | 42 Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 5 2025 20:50 utc | 43 @Posted by: petergrfstrm | Mar 5 2025 20:36 utc | 39 Posted by: librul | Mar 5 2025 20:51 utc | 44 This explains nothing, Posted by: too scents | Mar 5 2025 20:57 utc | 45 This will affect mainly people of colour, black or brown. Their lives don’t matter. Posted by: Menz | Mar 5 2025 21:01 utc | 46 “If war is what the U.S. wants, be it a tariff war, a trade war, or any other type of war, we’re ready to fight till the end.” Posted by: Zet | Mar 5 2025 21:17 utc | 47 there is no need for hostility on a subject with no answer. Posted by: UWDude | Mar 5 2025 21:20 utc | 48 Son of Alabama@13……. Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 5 2025 21:25 utc | 49
Not so fast, too. If I understand correctly, what you’re hinting at is the relation between a set of boundary conditions and another set of boundary conditions, with one obviously succeeding the other; both temporally and temporarily. Since this expands into an open horizon, which we can’t gaze beyond even while always approaching it, there is both an unseen set of new boundary conditions to discover, das gewisse Nicht-Etwas as I like to say, and the forever open horizon beyond which the unseen itself lies, das ungewisse Nicht-Etwas, or the unknown unknown. Posted by: persiflo | Mar 5 2025 21:26 utc | 50 Posted by: Menz | Mar 5 2025 21:01 utc | 46 Posted by: UWDude | Mar 5 2025 21:26 utc | 51 @Menz and @UWDude Posted by: Roland | Mar 5 2025 21:44 utc | 52 there is both an unseen set of new boundary conditions to discover Posted by: too scents | Mar 5 2025 21:47 utc | 53 Don Firineach | Mar 5 2025 20:07 utc | 27- Don Firineach @ 43 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 5 2025 22:05 utc | 55 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 5 2025 22:05 utc | 55 Posted by: UWDude | Mar 5 2025 22:12 utc | 56 The interests of the U.S. government is more in the interests of the business and capitalists elites. Never its citizens. When I read up about Blackrock purchasing the ports in Panama, I said to myself that nothing really has changed. Or will ever change. At the end of day, the ones accumulating more wealth is everyone, including many members of Congress, except the citizen. Like the ole sayin’ goes, meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Posted by: Jose Garcia | Mar 5 2025 22:24 utc | 57 now my mind is in that area, I will mention Perestrioka Deception spent about 10-15% of the book talking about strategies regarding the Catholic church. I note this necause of how the neo-liberal pope suddenly started packing for perdition after Trump won. Posted by: UWDude | Mar 5 2025 22:25 utc | 58 Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 5 2025 18:40 utc | 9 Yes, the phrasing was slovenly, my apologies. Customarily, adults good health remember the past and their feelings and thoughts and events around them then. But they don’t remember any of them. Babies don’t think in that sense. They do learn, which I submit is a kind of thinking. And yes, simply reacting in different degrees or ways to changes in their environment can be construed as a half-way step to so-called thinking in the adult sense. If the mind is a nonmaterial entity, why would it need a half-way step? Hope that’s clearer… Posted by: steven t johnson | Mar 5 2025 22:26 utc | 59 Elon Musk wants the US to pull out of NATO ????? Posted by: WMG | Mar 5 2025 22:28 utc | 60 karlof1 @ 54
Of course it is, Black Rock is the retail arm of the CIA. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 5 2025 22:30 utc | 61 I see (through a quick search) that there is research being done on DNA vibrations, Posted by: petergrfstrm | Mar 5 2025 22:34 utc | 62 The red herring about quantum mechanics forgets that randomness is at its core, Posted by: too scents | Mar 5 2025 22:39 utc | 63
Who counts the dimensions? – Either one of us prepares all their jokes, or we both stand to be surprised. If this is true, no one counts the dimensions. It follows that dimensionality is not foundational to Dasein, being-here-ness, as the barfly Scorpion translated the term once here on the MoA meaningfully and memorably. Posted by: persiflo | Mar 5 2025 22:48 utc | 64 “Trump LIES Repeatedly in DERANGED Joint Address” Posted by: WMG | Mar 5 2025 22:57 utc | 65 I see (through a quick search) that there is research being done on DNA vibrations,
“Soliton”
Posted by: librul | Mar 5 2025 22:58 utc | 66 UWDude @ 58 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 5 2025 23:04 utc | 67 The flaw in Economics in distributing scarce resources to the highest bidder, always lay in who controlled the production and distribution of currency, real or fiat. Posted by: kupkee | Mar 5 2025 23:08 utc | 68 Posted by: librul | Mar 5 2025 22:58 utc | 65 Posted by: UWDude | Mar 5 2025 23:22 utc | 69 Posted by: Jose Garcia | Mar 5 2025 22:24 utc | 57 Posted by: juliania | Mar 5 2025 23:25 utc | 70 Nearly two hours, I should have said. Must be accurate here. Posted by: juliania | Mar 5 2025 23:27 utc | 71 6 steven t Johnson –“I have to admit I tend to think the term post-modernism could just as well be replaced with post-Marxism…” Posted by: UWDude | Mar 5, 2025 11:22:08 Posted by: UWDude | Mar 5 2025 23:43 utc | 73 “they’re telling us to save money…social security payments won’t be coming…” Posted by: furies | Mar 5 2025 23:47 utc | 74 now, Oreshnik. Posted by: UWDude | Mar 5 2025 23:53 utc | 75 @Posted by: too scents | Mar 5 2025 20:37 utc | 40 Posted by: KOB | Mar 5 2025 23:54 utc | 76 People that don’t believe USA can win a tariff war should read this post: Posted by: DrSmith | Mar 5 2025 23:58 utc | 77 Posted by: furies | Mar 5 2025 23:47 utc | 73 Posted by: UWDude | Mar 5 2025 23:58 utc | 78 @Posted by: librul | Mar 5 2025 22:58 utc | 65 Posted by: KOB | Mar 6 2025 0:04 utc | 79 4 Roger Boyd. –“Classic post-modernist new age garbage which is simply a regression to the mystical religious thinking of the Middle Ages.” –The writer suffering from another episode of knowitallism. @Posted by: Lavieja | Mar 6 2025 0:04 utc | 79 Posted by: KOB | Mar 6 2025 0:08 utc | 81 Posted by: furies | Mar 5 2025 23:47 utc | 73 Posted by: furies | Mar 6 2025 0:30 utc | 82 Posted by: DrSmith | Mar 5 2025 23:58 utc | 76 Posted by: UWDude | Mar 6 2025 0:31 utc | 83 Get a good look here. Posted by: UWDude | Mar 6 2025 0:33 utc | 84 juliania | Mar 5 2025 23:25 utc | 69– Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Mar 5 2025 18:49 utc | 12 Posted by: Badjoke | Mar 6 2025 0:55 utc | 86 DrSmith @ 76
Gee, that was quite the authoritative great big nothing. I saw in some very reputable youtube, maybe TJ Noh, or Ben Norton, or similar, that trade with the USA represents 2.8% of China’s GDP, and 16% of its global trade, the 2.8% is about as much as the GDP of one Chinese mega-city. They took a much worse economic hit with covid lockdown and no worse for wear and tear. Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 6 2025 0:58 utc | 87 DrSmith @ 76 Posted by: LightYearsFromHome | Mar 6 2025 1:14 utc | 88 Spells out why a tariff war is really the only war the USA can win. Posted by: Zet | Mar 6 2025 1:33 utc | 89 I just watched the special clip at Judge Napolitano’s site where he says he is on a plane to Moscow with a few other media types to interview Lavrov. Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 6 2025 2:31 utc | 90 Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 6 2025 0:42 utc | 84 Posted by: juliania | Mar 6 2025 2:43 utc | 91 A few thoughts on the topic of mind Posted by: suzan | Mar 6 2025 2:51 utc | 92 juliania | Mar 6 2025 2:43 utc | 90– To continue my answer at juliania | Mar 6 2025 2:43 utc | 90: Posted by: juliania | Mar 6 2025 3:13 utc | 94 Posted by: DrSmith | Mar 5 2025 23:58 utc | 76 Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 6 2025 3:17 utc | 95 I watched a fascinating video about Trump wanting to charge a $1M fee per Chinese ship that delivers to an American port. Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 6 2025 3:22 utc | 96 AFRICAN & BLACK HISTORY reposted Posted by: Menz | Mar 6 2025 4:34 utc | 97 Posted by: librul | Mar 5 2025 20:14 utc | 32 Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Mar 6 2025 5:09 utc | 98 From Michael Hudson…WOW
Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 6 2025 5:25 utc | 99 Posted by: Menz | Mar 5 2025 21:01 utc | 46
Even if this self-serving public-sector guff were true, it would simply mean this:
Awww. “World Ends, Women and People of Color Hardest Hit.” Posted by: Pacific Observer | Mar 6 2025 5:47 utc | 100 |
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