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March 14, 2025
Echoes Of The May 2 2014 Odessa Massacre

On May 4 2014 I wrote about the February coup aftermath in Ukraine:

Two days ago a mob, supported by the fascists Right Sektor, killed over 30 federalist Ukrainians in Odessa by pushing them from their camp into a building and then setting fire to it. Those who escaped the massacre, not the perpetrators, were rounded up by police. Today pro-federalism people besieged the police headquarter in Odessa until the police released those it had earlier arrested.

The U.S. plan for Ukraine seems to be to bait Russia into an occupation. This would destroy EU-Russia relations, embolden NATO and help the U.S. to keep the EU as a secondary partner under its control. There would be lots of economic upsides for the U.S. in such a situation. Selling more arms and increasing energy market shares are only the starters.

There are two reasons to believe that this plan will fail:

Without Russian intervention and without German support the U.S. campaign against Russia is unlikely to reach its secondary target of isolating Russia. The primary target, Sevastopol harbor in Crimea, was already lost when Russia reunified with the island.

What is left to do then for Washington is to create more chaos in Ukraine and to hope that somehow out of total chaos some new chance may arise to stick it to Russia. For lack of real direction that strategy is also unlikely to succeed.

I was unfortunately wrong with the last sentence though it took the U.S. eight more years to succeed.

But it is the first paragraph I what to refer to today. The current two most popular pieces on the website of Strana are echoing it (machine translation):

From the first story (machine translation):

Demyan Ganul, who was killed today in Odessa, is a well-known radical activist, a native of the "Right Sector". Later he founded his own organization "Street Front".

Ganul was known since 2014, when he participated in the events of May 2, when dozens of people were killed in the House of Trade Unions. Later, he organized actions against Odessa residents, who laid flowers in honor of the burned-out anti-Maidan activists.

Ganul is also widely known for fighting in Odessa with "imperial" and Soviet monuments – to Catherine, Pushkin, and Soviet soldiers. He disrupted concerts of Russian performers, and also harassed residents of the city who spoke out for the Russian language.

Recently, Ganul actively "fought" against those who criticized the mobilization.

The most scandalous case occurred this summer, when Ganul beat up an Odessa fitness trainer after he criticized the recruiting office. After that, the coach disappeared and ended up, presumably, in the ranks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, where he was bullied and probably raped.

Ganul himself, as far as is known, did not fight and was engaged in volunteering. But not without scandals. In 2023, he was beaten up, as reported, by the military of the "Foreign Legion" – because Ganul collected money for a car, but did not give it away.

Ganul celebrated each anniversary of the May 2 massacre by posting pictures of himself eating a shashlik, i.e. burned flash.

The guy was a Nazi, a brute and a thug.


He was shot on the street with a pistol. When he was down on the ground the killer put another bullet into his head (vid) to make sure that he was dead. The murderer then walked away.

There are many such Nazis in Ukraine who are too coward to take part in the war but 'volunteer' in support of police. They are the muscles needed to run various extortion rackets.

During his lifetime, Ganul was a scandalous person and had numerous conflicts. And not only with pro-Russian circles.

The motives for Ganul's murder may not lie in the political sphere at all.

The victim has been engaged in volunteering since 2014, and also worked part-time as an "activist", organizing actions against Odessa businessmen, politicians and city authorities.

For example, he actively supported the Odessa businessman Degas, who is in conflict with the Mayor's office.

In addition, there have long been rumors in the city that Ganul is actually engaged in reket – looking for "victims" – cafes, restaurants, fitness clubs where you can find fault with something, for example, the staff speaks Russian. And then "helps" the owners of establishments.

In other words, he had many enemies. And not only for ideological reasons.

The other most popular news item at Strana relates to yesterday's judgment by the European Court for Human Rights against the authorities of Ukraine:

In the case of Vyacheslavova and Others v. Ukraine the Court held that there had been violations of the right to life/investigation on account of the authorities’ failure to do everything that could reasonably be expected of them to prevent the violence in Odesa on 2 May 2014, to stop that violence after its outbreak, to ensure timely rescue measures for people trapped in the fire, and to institute and conduct an effective investigation into the events. It also held that there had been a violation of the right to respect for private and family life in respect of one applicant concerning the delay in handing over her father’s body for burial.

The courts press release describes the struggle that led to the case:

Maidan activists started setting fire to the tents. A group of pro-Russian protesters on the roof of the Trade Union Building threw Molotov cocktails at the crowd below; pro-unity activists retaliated by throwing Molotov cocktails at the building. Gunshots were reportedly fired from both sides.

Despite numerous calls to the fire brigade, which was less than 1 km away, the fire service regional head instructed his staff not to send any fire engines to Kulykove Pole without his explicit order.

At 7.45 p.m., a fire broke out in the Trade Union Building. The fire extinguishers in the building did not work. The police called the fire brigade, to no avail. Some of the people in the building including Mr Dmitriyev (application no. 59339/17) tried to escape by jumping from the upper windows. He survived the fall and was taken to an ambulance. A number of people fell to their deaths, including the son of Ms Radzykhovska (application no. 59339/17) and the son of Ms Nikitenko (application no. 47092/18). Video footage shows pro-unity protesters making makeshift ladders and platforms from a stage in the square and using them to rescue people trapped in the building. Other video footage shows pro-unity protesters attacking people who had jumped or had fallen.

The regional head of the fire service finally ordered fire engines to be sent to the scene. Fire ladders were used to rescue people from the upper-floor windows. Firefighters entered the building at around 8.30 p.m. and put out the fire. The police arrested 63 anti-Maidan activists who were still inside the building or on the roof. They were released two days later, when a group of several hundred anti- Maidan protesters stormed the local police station where they were being held.

The fire claimed 42 lives.

There are several others well know perpetrators of the May 2 massacre, like Demyan Ganul, who are still running free in Ukraine. Their unrestricted activities underline the necessity of denazification in Ukraine.

May the ECHR judgment and the death of Demyan Ganul give some solace to the victims of the May 2 2014 massacre.

Comments

Posted by: Micron | Mar 14 2025 20:12 utc | 96
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If you really don’t understand the focus on Odessa you don’t understand Russians at all.
Might be time for you to ride your tricycle around the neighborhood again. Wear your hat with the propeller on top.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 14 2025 20:24 utc | 101

I like how nonchalant the bystanders in the video of the execution of the Nazi were. “Oh look, someone is exterminating a Nazi. Anyway, I hope the bus is on time.”

Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 14 2025 20:26 utc | 102

Western press:
“Demyan Ganul, a well Known Ukrainian activist…”
Just like with Navalny, they can’t bring themselves to use the N-word.

Posted by: Ed Bernays | Mar 14 2025 20:27 utc | 103

@ Refinnejenna | Mar 14 2025 20:22 utc | 100
good overview that definitely merits consideration in all this.. thanks..

Posted by: james | Mar 14 2025 20:28 utc | 104

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 14 2025 20:16 utc | 97
In addition to Zionist or 404 affiliation, Pete Buttigieg’s father was a bit of a Gramsci scholar at Notre Dame.
I believe that some of the tactics which Gramsci talked about were designed to help revolution. That to me is a fifth column.
Seeing his son reached such heights in USA government to me indicates a “long march through the institutions.” There are others I have heard about in US govt, too.

Posted by: lex talionis | Mar 14 2025 20:28 utc | 105

@96 micron
Re: Odessa and retaking fixation
You are correct in essence. I’d like to point out that Russia taking Odessa, however that may happen, would trigger a nato intervention through Romania and moldova. There is intense nato activity in Odessa and it’s the key to a viable ukraine, for whoever lives there after the Ukrainians kill themselves off.

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Mar 14 2025 20:32 utc | 106

Putin is a lawyer, unlike Trump, his words matter.
He will not slaughter “surrendering” Ukrainians. He promised no such ease for mercenaries or NATO/foreign captives.
Makes sense. Russia is still not out of the woods yet wrt ending the SMO, and some NATO captives might be very valuable bargaining chips later.
And they are also human garbage fit to become fertilizer. It could go either way …
This entire public dialogue, IMO, is for Europe. Trump is doing his thing where he subverts narratives with uncomfortable truths. Every media in the West (probably the entire planet) reads what Trump says. He has the most powerful voice (by reach) on the planet, that is why FB and Twitter had to ban him.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 14 2025 20:34 utc | 107

To safeguard the great land of freedom and democracy, AMERICA, from the evils of Nazism, perhaps it’s time for America to establish the WHITE WORKINGMEN’S PARTY OF AMERICA! Let’s rally around the identity politics of being white! No, wait, I mean the class politics of being white working men!
It’s interesting to see that the most thinly veiled reactionaries like Ahenobarbus and Constantine come crawling out the woodwork the moment their favorite ideology, fascism, comes under attack. They pretend to condemn fascism and to offer the alternative to fascism – which is fascism again, disguised as “socialism” and “communism”. These people scream: “I am against Nazis, I believe that we should instead have a German Workers’ Party that is nationalist and socialist!” Where’s Tichy the “communist” who, instead of directing vitriol against capitalists, loves to screech about Jews being the puppetmasters for all the ills in the world? This need to defend fascism – is it out of fear that the fate befalling Ukrainian Nazis will come for you?
Ukrainian Banderism is an offshoot of Nazism, and Nazism itself is simply an offshoot of Manifest Destiny.
National Socialist German Workers’ Party is really late to the party when it comes to misleadingly naming their party. Americans did the whole “racists pretending to be socialists” thing first. Truly and indisputably, America is number one when it comes to innovating new ways of masking their racism.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workingmen%27s_Party_of_California

The Workingmen’s Party of California (WPC) was an American labor organization, founded in 1877 and led by Denis Kearney, J. G. Day, and H. L. Knight.[1] Its famous slogan was “The Chinese must go!”[2]

For those unfamiliar with American history, the Irish like Kearney weren’t initially considered white, so the Irish fought hard to be be accepted as white by doubling down on racism. There’s no desire for class struggle from Kearney. Kearney only wants to join the labor aristocracy. It’s amazing to see Kearney’s tactic of dividing the working class based on their identities surviving unchanged for almost 150 years in America.
Kearney’s tactics, sadly, failed to inspire Lenin.
https://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1916/imp-hsc/ch08.htm

In France, the workers employed in the mining industry are, “in great part,” foreigners: Poles, Italians and Spaniards.[11] In the United States, immigrants from Eastern and Southern Europe are engaged in the most poorly paid jobs, while American workers provide the highest percentage of overseers or of the better-paid workers.[12] Imperialism has the tendency to create privileged sections also among the workers, and to detach them from the broad masses of the proletariat.

Detached from the broad masses? Privileged, as in “check your privilege”? Lenin the fool! Lenin the Trotskyist Democrat liberal agent! How could Lenin express sympathy for the immigrants? It’s the labor aristocracy, the 100% born and bred American overseers who deserves Lenin’s sympathy.
Lenin’s stupidity is the cause of the Soviet Union’s collapse.
Lenin’s successor, Stalin, is equally stupid. How could Stalin not see that racism is the bedrock upon which the workingmen’s civilization is built?
https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/stalin/works/1924/foundations-leninism/ch06.htm

Leninism laid bare this crying incongruity, broke down the wall between whites and blacks, between European and Asiatics, between the “civilised” and “uncivilised” slaves of imperialism, and thus linked the national question with the question of the colonies. The national question was thereby transformed from a particular and internal state problem into a general and international problem, into a world problem of emancipating the oppressed peoples in the dependent countries and colonies from the yoke of imperialism.

If only the Soviet Union learned racism from America instead of learning how to do business from America, the Soviet Union would have become a thousand-year workingmen’s reich! Instead, the Soviet Union is now only a footnote in history. Kearney, on the other hand, left a lasting impact.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denis_Kearney

Kearney faded from the public’s eye by the early 1880s, leaving as his legacy only the anti-Chinese laws that the Workingmen’s Party had passed at the 1879 California Constitutional Convention.

A workingmen’s party that did not leave a legacy in labor laws, yet left a legacy in anti-Chinese laws, how fortuitous for the poor, downtrodden white working man!

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Mar 14 2025 20:36 utc | 108

Russia is still fighting WW 1. UKR/NATO is fighting a XXI century war. While russians boasts about an (unverifiable) encirclement in Kursk area, UKR/NATO keeps dismantling vital russian infrastructures and energy centers.
A major oil refinery was also in a strike, triggering ten explosions followed by a massive inferno – just 55 miles from Putin’s palace on the Black Sea.
Vnukovo airport – used by Trump envoy Steve Witkoff to leave Moscow after meeting Putin and his top officials – was closed.
It was the second major Ukrainian attack on Moscow in three days, and appeared to be a direct response to Putin setting multiple conditions for any ceasefire.
The inferno at Tuapse Oil Refinery came after ten deafening explosions, thought to be orchestrated by drones.
Huge flames and thick black smoke rose after the strike and the fire spread quickly. More than 120 firefighters fought the blaze.
The Tuapse oil refinery was directly hit
Large plumes of smoke were seen from miles away
Krasnodar regional governor Veniamin Kondratyev said: ‘The Kyiv regime attacked the oil complex in Tuapse. One of the gasoline tanks caught fire.’
Moscow was also rocked by drone strikes, causing car alarms to go off ‘en masse’, according to an eyewitness.
The strikes were close to Putin’s usual highway route from his official residence in Moscow to the Kremlin.
Another strike was close to a metro station, with further ones damaging roofs and windows of residential buildings.
A piece of a misfiring Russian Pantsir air defence system was filmed by a passerby in the Moscow region.
Homes in the Moscow region were struck by the drones
Drone debris littered streets after the attacks
Days ago, Ukraine launched what was its largest drone attack yet against Moscow on the same day peace talks began with delegates in Saudi Arabia.
Exploding drones targeted high-rise residential buildings in the Russian capital

Posted by: louis | Mar 14 2025 20:39 utc | 109

Posted by: louis | Mar 14 2025 20:39 utc | 109
Reads like the list of accomplishments of terrorists.

Posted by: alek_a | Mar 14 2025 20:45 utc | 110

Posted by: louis | Mar 14 2025 20:39 utc | 109
Strange that the Waste are the ones begging for a ceasefire then

Posted by: Night Tripper | Mar 14 2025 20:46 utc | 111

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Mar 14 2025 20:32 utc | 106
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Russia cannot allow NATO/Ukraine a port. That would be like sticking themselves with poison.
2 years ago? Maybe.
Now? Impossible.
Also, Odessa is the key to Transnistria. Russia could really make use of more ethnic Russians to offset the war losses.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 14 2025 20:46 utc | 112

“…racism is the bedrock upon which the workingmen’s civilization is built.”
For those who are still confused about what fascism actually is, here is an example of fascist ideology. That ideology is entirely situational and is designed as whatever caters to the prejudices of petite bourgeois dilettantes and narcissists of the moment, but in all cases it is an attack on working class organization.

Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 14 2025 20:47 utc | 113

Posted by: Neofeudalfuture | Mar 14 2025 20:32 utc | 106
Reality is that Odessa has nothing to do with a viable Ukraine.
It’s simply that a rump rest of Ukraine without Odessa and sea access is useless for west/Nato.

Posted by: Mario | Mar 14 2025 20:57 utc | 114

Posted by: louis | Mar 14 2025 20:39 utc | 109
Don’t suppose you have a link to your source? Though I could take a guess at it being the Daily Mail/Express/Telegraph, amirite???

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 14 2025 20:58 utc | 115

the Ukrainian People have a dual serious problem:
– the West wants Ukraine to fight Russia to the last Ukrainian
– Russia wants to denazify Ukraine
Who will be left if both sides want to stay “the Alpha in the field”?
I think Russia’s aims are better for the people, the West’s aims are better for the Big (western) Companies.

Posted by: Stefan | Mar 14 2025 21:00 utc | 116

John Wight on men with guns, a couple of days ago:

Men with guns sent to fight other men with guns are never more dangerous than when the initial, warm glow of patriotism, responsible for them readily marching towards their own demise, is replaced by the grim reality of suffering and slaughter.
It is then when that most dangerous of all things for rulers emerges: a still-armed soldier who starts to reflect.
The Russian Revolution of 1917 is the historical example, tout court, of how poor soldiers, thrown into the maw of combat, develop a revolutionary consciousness which supersedes the national one they’d set out to defend.

https://consortiumnews.com/2025/03/13/ukraine-revolution/

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 14 2025 21:02 utc | 117

Posted by: Avtonom | Mar 14 2025 19:51 utc | 88
Posted by: Mario | Mar 14 2025 20:04 utc | 93
Are the Ospreys still grounded? They were a “convenient” cause of mass casualties…
And here in Britain we haven’t had a mysterious Chinook crash for a good few years…

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 14 2025 21:08 utc | 118

CHAOS left behind … 50 years of Joe’s legacy. The 100 Years war Europe vs Russia 2014-2114

Zelensky and the Terror State Ukraine
Joint terror acts coordinated by British and U.S. intelligence using proxies by the Ukrainian terror arm SBU and remnants Al Qaeda affiliates in Idlib province NW Syria bordering Türkiye.

Zelensky threatens Putin’s grandchildren | Azerbaycan News – 15 Jan 2025 |
Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky has threatened Russian President Vladimir Putin’s entire family with “criminal trials” and long prison sentences, during a speech at the World Economic Forum in Davos .
Zelensky’s address to the gathering of aspiring global leaders focused on asking for more weapons, money, and ammunition so he could continue to fight Russia. At one point, however, he made a reference to the Russian leader’s family.
Putin will not “rest in peace, both in this world and in the next,” said Zelensky. “Neither his children, nor his grandchildren.”

Zelensky has repeatedly insisted that Ukraine does not engage in terrorism, while admitting he would have Putin assassinated if the opportunity arose.
The SBU has a long list of assassinations done both at home and in Russia. no state can tolerate terror. SBU worked together with HTS – Al Nusra terror in Syria. The ISIS-K has headquarters in Idlib district … see Tajik connection and the Moscow Crocus City Hall attack and the twin suicide bombing in Kerman, Iran.

Why has the CIA decided to allow US media to confirm its involvement in Ukraine’s brutal assassination campaign? | Azerbaycan News – 9 Nov. 2023 | (Washington Post exclusive)
One of the first claims it makes is that the relationship between the Ukrainian SBU and the CIA has been developing for decades with the latter working to “develop” Ukraine’s abilities to carry out sabotage and “operations” since at least 2014.

House grilled Nuland over US’ Cooperation with Neo-Nazis in Ukraine | 9 May 2014 |

DARPA Memorandum of Understanding and Ukroboronprom
Anthony Tether, Director of the American company “Tony Tether & Associates”, former head of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), became an advisor on long-term development of “Ukroboronprom”. The parties signed the document on August 26, 2016.

Aggression by the Pentagon and DARPA to integrate Ukraine into NATO
Killer robots have seen action in Ukraine since at least 2016. Here’s a description of one such use in May 2017, from the Minsk Monitor.
Terror act destruction of the Nord Stream pipelines | 25 Sept. 2022 | — Radek Sikorski partnership Anne Applebaum
Ukrainian MP Alexey Goncharenko on defending his country
from Putin | 60 Minutes Australia – 22 March 2022 |

Russia detains Ukrainian parliament member over Odessa fire | AP News – March 2015 |

The federal Investigative Committee said Alexei Goncharenko was being questioned about his alleged involvement in a fire that broke out last year in his home city Odessa between pro-Ukrainian and pro-Russian demonstrators. Dozens died in the fire, including some Russian citizens.
The speaker of Ukraine’s parliament, Volodymyr Groisman, said the detention was a violation of international law because Goncharenko has diplomatic immunity. The speaker urged Ukrainian Foreign Minister Pavlo Klimkin to take urgent measures to have the parliament member released.

Ukraine held talks with Britain for destruction of Crimean bridge | AZ News – 15 Aug. 2022 |

Posted @MofA by: Jen | Oct 8 2022 22:36 utc | 436
Well I will bite … reports are saying that the truck was owned by Baza Yusupov who bought it off his uncle but still allowed his uncle to drive it. Although the fellow who was driving the truck at the time it exploded has now been identified as Biji al Kamurji, a Syrian Muslim with a past history of radicalisation. [came to Russia as a refugee from areas occupied by ISIS. It is suspected that he was an agent of a foreign power.]
There are now online reports that a Ukrainian politician, Aleksey Goncharenko, had been in discussion with UK Defence Minister Ben Wallace in June this year about destroying the Crimea Bridge. Goncharenko posted a photo of his meeting online (Instagram perhaps?) and the then UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson is present. This meeting must have been of utmost importance and urgency.

Posted by: Oui | Mar 14 2025 21:09 utc | 119

You are correct in essence. I’d like to point out that Russia taking Odessa, however that may happen, would trigger a nato intervention through Romania and moldova.

Speaking of huffing glue, you two could get a room and sell each other on excellent Ukrainian investment opportunities. A pair of compromised shills. You must be MI6, because that’s exactly the level of ‘thought’ I expect from the collapsing, imploding, failure cascading British clowniverse. Whatever do you think NATO will ‘intervene’ with, my forlorn, starry eyed summer child? And why would such a token NATO force not merely be annihilated? Are you getting it now? NATO fucking lost. All the NATO granny taxpayer dollars and all the NATO mercenaries and all the NATO weapons couldn’t put a fucking dent in Russia. Best go back to bullying small African nations or whatever the fuck you people do.

Posted by: Doctor Eleven | Mar 14 2025 21:12 utc | 120

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 14 2025 20:16 utc | 97
In addition to Zionist or 404 affiliation, Pete Buttigieg’s father was a bit of a Gramsci scholar at Notre Dame.
I believe that some of the tactics which Gramsci talked about were designed to help revolution. That to me is a fifth column.
Seeing his son reached such heights in USA government to me indicates a “long march through the institutions.” There are others I have heard about in US govt, too.
Posted by: lex talionis | Mar 14 2025 20:28 utc | 105
Although, the whole Marxism globalist elite trope is a totally reactionary lie, I will admit than many of the bourgeois globalist elite were formerly interested in Marxism and borrowed concepts from the same to promote Imperialism. Gramsci’s focus on the cultural front coykd certainly have interested many a future Imperialist.

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 14 2025 21:18 utc | 121

Posted by: William Gruff | Mar 14 2025 20:47 utc | 113
fascist ideology is [a] situational, prejudicial, attack on [competitive] organizations <--such as those assembled by the working class. <= Please define working class organization?? That is a very interesting aspect of fascist ideology but it I don't think targeted-types of organization is part of the ideology. I think competition of any kind to the ideology that captures the awesome powers of the state to support private monopoly power is the essence of fascism.. very interesting your take..

Posted by: snake | Mar 14 2025 21:22 utc | 122

NAFOs think a neutral Ukraine would be subject to Azov terrorism. IMHO there’d be more of THIS… empowered citizens hunting down & taking out NAFOs just like the SS were hunted after WWII.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Mar 14 2025 21:24 utc | 123

OOPS, meant to say Azov Nazis not NAFOs, but I’d say any well-known Ukrainian NAFOs would also be targets.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Mar 14 2025 21:24 utc | 124

For those who are still confused about what fascism actually is… in all cases it is an attack on working class organization.
@ William Gruff | Mar 14 2025 20:47 utc | 113

Is the extermination of Palestinians an expression of fascism? If it isn’t, then the word doesn’t matter to me. If it is, then surely Gaza is the supreme historical example of fascist atrocity: a Palestinian Holocaust.
Somebody might justify describing USrael’s flattening of Gaza as “an attack on working class organization” — but it would seem forced and, truly, beside the point. The definitional key to “fascist atrocity” in a sense applicable to current extremes is subscription to racist dehumanization, such that killing large numbers of Palestinians (or Slavs, or Haitians, etc.) is not a matter of compelling concern for the polities of fascist states — national organizations capable of and responsible for “fascist atrocities” — such as USrael.
Fascist, racist, mafiocracy… the terminology we choose to describe it is beside the point. The point is that most of us behave (live our whole lives, really) as though there are two kinds of people: worthy (among them, us lovely white folks), and worthless.

Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 14 2025 21:26 utc | 125

Posted by: Micron | Mar 14 2025 20:12 utc | 96
Aha, the Kernel King is back, dispensing his self-assured wisdom. Of course, missing from your undoubtedly detailed and well-informed analysis is the seething, simmering resistance in the Odessa oblast towards the Kiev junta. Even Ukrainian news outlets are struggling to ignore the frequency of attacks on the press-gang TCC’s in both the city and region, the repeated derailment of freight trains carrying military supplies, sudden fires affecting rail signalling equipment and power supplies etc, etc.
Odessa doesn’t need to be taken by military force, it will voluntarily align itself with Russia.

Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 14 2025 21:27 utc | 126

Odessa doesn’t need to be taken by military force, it will voluntarily align itself with Russia.
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Mar 14 2025 21:27 utc | 126

100%

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Mar 14 2025 21:32 utc | 127

When the Special Military Operation started, Putin promised to take vengeance for the Odessa Massacre.

Posted by: Lysias | Mar 14 2025 21:47 utc | 128

@Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 14 2025 21:18 utc | 121
In the Western academy Gramsci’s work has been very selectively utilized, in a way that can be integrated into the Western “cultural turn” and “critical theory” while disconnecting the chosen elements from the historical materialism that drives Gramsci’s work. Integrated into the anti-communist, anti-historical materialist Western “left”. Scholars who fully embrace Gramsci’s work as a work of Marxism have been pretty much sidelined.
Robert Cox was a more radical thinker than most of the Western “left” but even he took obvious pains to “de-Marxify” the pieces of Gramsci’s work that he utilized, and embedded them within an eclectic mix. The Amsterdam School of International Relations took Gramsci fully on board, with works by Jessop, van der Pijl, Overbeek, van Apeldoorn, and de Graaff. Also, some of the Marxist scholars from York University. Also, some of the scholars outside the Western academy, for example in Latin America.
To say that someone studied Gramsci does not mean that they are communist, it may just mean that they a “critical” theorist” or focused on cultural studies.

Posted by: Roger Boyd | Mar 14 2025 21:51 utc | 129

As my father said; “you can always identify a true Nazi, he’s the guy furthest from the front line”.
Posted by: S Brennan | Mar 14 2025 17:37 utc | 48
From Thomas Weber’s Hitler’s first war
“Hitler served a few miles behind the lines as a runner for regimental headquarters in relative comfort, and was considered a mere “tea boy” messenger or “rear-area pig” (Etappenschwein) by frontline soldiers.”

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Mar 14 2025 21:53 utc | 130

Night Tripper@84….why sign the deal….Russia is being targeted globally, and on its own sovereign soil, no list required, but Russia is only able to target the left and right of the westeastofthenorthernsouth in the Ukraine. That’s why, outside of a blinding flash, without suffering huge losses Russia cannot win outright and dictate the outcome of the SMO….Russia will get concessions that’s how deals work….
Cheers M

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 14 2025 21:55 utc | 131

@Neofeudalfuture | 28
Fake news. Right is
1) 6.000 Soldiers and not 10.000
2) Putin declared not all for terrorists, the Ukrainian solders would be regular POWs, while the foreign mercenaries there are terrorists

Posted by: smartfox | Mar 14 2025 21:57 utc | 132

Don’t know if this is true, but worrying sign if it is…
Russian forces say […] https://x.com/OSINTWarfare/status/1900592612148400243
Posted by: unimperator | Mar 14 2025 17:14 utc | 391
unimperator, Trump made that request, and Putin said that request will be granted if the encircled troops surrender or if Kiev gives the order to surrender.
Source: https://eadaily.com/en/news/2025/03/14/its-up-to-kiev-the-us-signal-was-heard-putin-guaranteed-the-prisoners-life-ushakov
The signal of the US president has been heard, and our president has guaranteed the Ukrainian servicemen life and decent treatment, if, of course, Kiev goes to order its servicemen to lay down their arms and surrender.
I would like to emphasize that the Russian president is attentive to all issues that are raised during the recreated dialogue with the current American administration,” Ushakov said, quoted by Pool No. 3.
He once again stressed that “such a dialogue has been established and is regularly carried out through a number of channels.”

Posted by: Elber | Mar 14 2025 22:09 utc | 133

@LoveDonbass | Mar 14 2025 19:52 utc | 89
I’ll take Medvechuk over Prokopenko any day.
Any news on where the latter is now?

Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 14 2025 22:15 utc | 134

@LoveDonbass | Mar 14 2025 20:46 utc | 112
Odessa is not only the key to Transnistria, it is the open.
In terms of military strategy, it is the open flank in the Black Sea, where Western naval units (fale flag) can assemble at any time and launch a massive attack on Russia. The Black Sea coast must be secured, otherwise Russia is always threatened with a counterattack.

Posted by: smartfox | Mar 14 2025 22:29 utc | 135

The SBU is looking for a “Russian trace”: the neo-Nazi killer Ganul was detained in Odessa*
Подробнее: https://eadaily.com/en/news/2025/03/14/the-sbu-is-looking-for-a-russian-trace-the-neo-nazi-killer-ganul-was-detained-in-odessa
As EADaily reported, a well-known Ukrainian neo-Nazi Demyan Ganul*, who was one of the organizers of the arson of the House of Trade Unions on May 2, 2014, was killed in Odessa.
This was reported in his telegram channel by Verkhovna Rada deputy Alexei Goncharenko*. According to him, the Minister of Internal Affairs of Ukraine Igor Klimenko takes the investigation of the murder under personal control.

Posted by: Oui | Mar 14 2025 22:35 utc | 136

For those interested hers the full video of the odessa massacre published by Roses Have Thorns. Not for the fait hearted
https://youtu.be/QxcB0PI4ZLg?si=eqhluqvTGzPHBDt7

Posted by: HERMIUS | Mar 14 2025 22:44 utc | 137

It is too much to expect the shadow belligerent, the hegemonic U.S., to order the Kiev regime to tell the proxy army, whether composed of AFU or of Euro *specialists* and NATO mercs, to drop their weapons and surrender to Russia.
Instead, the U.S. is foisting off upon Russia the responsibility to be *magnanimous* in their obvious battlefield victory in avoiding a whole-scale slaughter. But this “foisting off” permits the Americans to refuse taking accountability for the U.S.’s own complicity in placing beaucoup NATO mercs and fig-leaf AFU troops in dire jeopardy in Kursk in the first place.
It is a hideous sham.
The U.S., in a proxy war with Russia, attempted to maneuver Russia into a ceasefire, disadvantgeous to Russia, in order to create a scenario where EU agitators, like the UK and France, could complicate the battlefield w/ tripwire troops who present as ‘peacekeepers.’
It is totally bogus that the U.S., in order to avoid conceding defeat to Russia, must set up a series of complicated hoops & baffles through which Russia must jump in order to spare the U.S. the humiliation of acknowledging defeat.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 14 2025 22:46 utc | 138

That’s why, outside of a blinding flash, without suffering huge losses Russia cannot win outright and dictate the outcome of the SMO…
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 14 2025 21:55 utc | 131

Russia’s already winning outright. Perhaps you mis-spoke?

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Mar 14 2025 22:47 utc | 139

Zelensky is a ventriluqusts dummy right now,
Anything comming from his mouth is coming from his UK controlers.
Effectively trump is having to negotiate with the UK through their dummy.
The UK want their attack on Russia to continue, they want a ceacefire, becouse they want a ceasefire to fail, and fail big time.
The UK needs a ceacefire to fail to drag america into their all out war with Russia. A war they cant fight on their own.
The best way to end this war is for trump and america to wash their hands of it all now and walk away.
Now.

Posted by: Mark2 | Mar 14 2025 22:49 utc | 140

Elber | 133
That would even make sense. 6,000 prisoners are a huge organizational and logistical burden to bring them all to secure prisons in the hinterland. So they leave their equipment behind, cannot be used in Ukraine, but are dangerous carriers of information about conditions on the Ukrainian front. Putin is doing well with a humanitarian solution, Trump is being supported and propaganda is working against the Europeans. All in all, more advantages than disadvantages for Russia.

Posted by: smartfox | Mar 14 2025 22:53 utc | 141

@smartfox | Mar 14 2025 22:29 utc | 135
This Black Sea coast (warm waters) is A RUSSIAN ASSET WON WITH HARD TIME*, since the largest country on the planet needed ports that would not freeze in winter. *Several wars with the Ottoman Empire, Turkey, France and England, always in alliance against Russia.
One of the treaties dissolving the USSR established, in Article 6, that Russia, Ukraine and Belarus formed a “common military and strategic space” and “UNITED ARMED FORCES”. But the West cheated once again!
Cf “Key points” in:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belovezha_Accords

Posted by: Elber | Mar 14 2025 22:55 utc | 142

@smartfox | Mar 14 2025 22:29 utc | 135
This Black Sea coast (warm waters) is A RUSSIAN ASSET WON WITH HARD TIME*, since the largest country on the planet needed ports that would not freeze in winter. *Several wars with the Ottoman Empire, Turkey, France and England, always in alliance against Russia.
One of the treaties dissolving the USSR established, in Article 6, that Russia, Ukraine and Belarus formed a “common military and strategic space” and “UNITED ARMED FORCES”. But the West cheated once again!
Cf “Key points” in:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belovezha_Accords

Posted by: Elber | Mar 14 2025 22:55 utc | 143

Sorry for the duplication!

Posted by: Elber | Mar 14 2025 22:57 utc | 144

As the Kursk salient gets closed (soon to become the Sumy front) and the Ukrainians launch many attempted counter-attacks in Toretsk and around Pokrovsk etc., the Ukrainian casualty rates are climbing again, to a level of about 50,000 a month in the most recent week. Not yet at the 60,000 a month that was normal in the second half of 2024, or the 90,000 a month in the Autumn but still climbing. All the numbers that I have read put new recruitment/press ganging at 15,000 a month max. So the Ukrainian military is shrinking each month, and of course those new recruits do not have anywhere near the motivation and training of many of the people they replace.
With Spring offensive season only a month away in Ukraine, those casualty numbers may only keep increasing.
Ukrainian losses for the week March 8th to 14th, as reported by the Russian defence ministry:
– Kursk & Kharkiv fronts: 2,315 troops, 7 tanks, 111 LAV/HMV, 140 motor vehicles, 56 artillery pieces.
– Zapad Group (Luhansk area): 1,585 troops, 2 tank, 14 LAV/HMV, 32 motor vehicles, 19 artillery pieces, 15 EW systems.
– Yug Group (Donetsk north): 1,815 troops, 3 tanks, 16 LAV/HMV, 24 motor vehicles, 25 artillery pieces.
– Tsetr Group (Donetsk south): 3,540 troops, 3 tanks, 23 LAV/ HMV, 42 motor vehicles, 26 artillery pieces.
– Vostok Group (southern front): 1,085 troops, 4 tanks, 11 LAV/HMV, 20 motor vehicles, 18 artillery piece. 2 EW systems.
– Dnepr Group: 440 troops, 1 tank, 3 LAV/HMV, 43 motor vehicles, 6 artillery pieces, 6 EW systems.
In total: 10,780 troops – an increase in losses (46,713 per month, with undercounting probably around 50,000). More than half the 90,000 a month losses during the Autumn.
21 tanks (7 in Kursk/Kharkov), 178 HMV/Light Armoured Vehicle (111 in Kursk/Kharkov), 301 motor vehicles. Kursk still a graveyard for Ukrainian armoured vehicles, equipment losses are still remaining relatively high.
150 artillery pieces (56 in Kursk/Kharkov). A rate of 650/mth, beyond the West’s ability to replace. Plus 17 EW systems.

Posted by: Roger Boyd | Mar 14 2025 22:57 utc | 145

The U.S., in fighting a proxy war against Russia, can ring up its proxy right now and say–hey, listen, allow your guys to surrender in Kursk and lay their weapons down. Let them be taken prisoners-of-war by Russia.
Instead, it is bogus & weird that DJT would take to Truth Social, begging VVP, in all-caps, not to allow the slaughter of the cauldronized NATO-mercs and fig-leaf AFU troops.
This act in itself perpetuates the myth of how the conflict came about and who actually is in charge of its trajectory. The fundamental untruths about Project Ukraine still cannot come to the light of day, which simply piles more gnarly lies upon long-lying gnarly lies.
This *gnarl* is not the responsibility of the Russians.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 14 2025 23:00 utc | 146

Trump knows the truth about this conflict, we know this becouse trump sent Vance to Munich to confront them with the truth.
He trump has absalutly nothing to gain by envolving himself with this nest of vipers.
Never dose america.
Israel dose though.

Posted by: Mark2 | Mar 14 2025 23:00 utc | 147

That’s why, outside of a blinding flash, without suffering huge losses Russia cannot win outright and dictate the outcome of the SMO…
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Mar 14 2025 21:55 utc | 131
FFS.
2,000 Ukraine troops surrounded.
A daring Pipeline operation which will go down in military history
Kiev calling for a ceasefire
Putin refuses unless certain demands are met
Rutte says no NATO membership for Ukraine….
…AND YOU SAY RUSSIA ISN’T WINNING?

Posted by: HERMIUS | Mar 14 2025 23:05 utc | 148

When the state is just a bunch of mafia fiefdoms all such hits are mob hits. That’s all we need to know here. Trying to uncover the murky networks of underworld politics when the whole of Ukraine is one vast underworld is futile. I watched the coup de grace on Ganul a few times. I was glad to see the earth unburdened if only by one. Hopefully the whole of Ukraine, for the sake of its common people, will one day be free of this filth.

Posted by: Patroklos | Mar 14 2025 23:05 utc | 149

@HERMIUS | Mar 14 2025 22:44 utc | 137
Thanks for that.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 14 2025 23:05 utc | 150

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 14 2025 22:46 utc | 138
I corrected it for you; I think that’s what you meant:
“It is totally real that the U.S., in order to avoid conceding defeat to Russia, must set up a series of complicated hoops & baffles through which Russia must jump in order to spare the U.S. the humiliation of acknowledging defeat.”
In just one paragraph, you summed up everything that’s going on.

Posted by: Elber | Mar 14 2025 23:08 utc | 151

The Kursk collapse has definitely slowed down. Not sure why. Figured after Sudzha fell, the rest of that associated pocket would fall even faster. But has been very slow last few days. Not just a DS thing, but Dima, DPA, Suriyak, etc. noting the slowdown.

Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 14 2025 23:08 utc | 152

So today we see the 4th Ukronazi armuy destroyed in detail in the Kursk fire pocket, and this time unlike Dunkirk in 1940, there will no pause in that effort……..
Putin is in the drivers seat………there will be no ceasefire until RF reaches the Dneiper, and Odessa and the Black Sea ports are given over to RF control…….no concessions, no ceasefire.

Posted by: tobias cole | Mar 14 2025 23:08 utc | 153

Posted by: smartfox | Mar 14 2025 22:29 utc | 135
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Thank you for the explanation.
I know nothing about military strategy, just generalized logic.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 14 2025 23:15 utc | 154

Posted by: Elber | Mar 14 2025 23:08 utc | 151
I corrected it for you; I think that’s what you meant:
“It is totally real that the U.S., in order to avoid conceding defeat to Russia, must set up a series of complicated hoops & baffles through which Russia must jump in order to spare the U.S. the humiliation of acknowledging defeat.”
<< Absolutely, and thank you-! All of which underscores the fact that the U.S. is not going to lose a war they provoked Russia into starting. This is not to undercut Russia's robust agency, of course: the battlefield gains tell the story of who's winning here. And obviously Russia is thwarting the U.S.'s aims & intents. But during diplomacy, or during other actions that could conclude hostilities, the U.S. is simply unable to admit defeat. So we've got a bizarre logjam. The war cannot end because the U.S. cannot lose. The war cannot end because Russia cannot win. This is *way* beyond what a 30-day ceasefire can solve.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 14 2025 23:18 utc | 155

@Posted by: louis | Mar 14 2025 20:39 utc | 109
How does killing more people help the citizens in either country?

Posted by: KOB | Mar 14 2025 23:21 utc | 156

Posted by: Patroklos | Mar 14 2025 23:05 utc | 149
(…)
I watched the coup de grace on Ganul a few times. (…)
***
I am disgusted by violence. But I have also seen it several times.
https://nitter.poast.org/search?f=tweets&q=Demyan&cursor=DAADDAABCgABGmCC1_9WYXsKAAIaYIJSslcQjgAIAAIAAAACCAADAAAAAAgABAAAAAAKAAUaYILfzkAnEAoABhpggt_OP9jwAAA
Do you remember that speech?
Posted by: Elber | Mar 14 2025 17:47 utc | 52

Posted by: Elber | Mar 14 2025 23:22 utc | 157

Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 14 2025 22:15 utc | 134
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I don’t know these characters well. I know that Putin gave up Nazis to free Medvechuk and that Putin is God-father to one of Medvedchuk’s children.
This is where Doomers chime in to complain that Putin coddles Oligarchs. Medvedchuk had a successful political party in Ukraine before Zelensky’s thugs beat him up and collapsed the party.
In that part of the world, Oligarchs are essential and natural parts of the governance structure.
They don’t get away with what they do in the West, but they are part of the social fabric and always have been.
Russia likely recruits a few Oligarchs to administer any buffer zones that they may create.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 14 2025 23:24 utc | 158

see the 7:29 video at the second link
https://x.com/alon_mizrahi/status/1900421868391145492
Alon Mizrahi @alon_mizrahi
Putin is 34 times smarter than the entire leadership class of the West. He just toys with them at this point. Russia already won everything
https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1900230918138175747
SIMPLICIUS Ѱ @simpatico771
⚡️🇷🇺Putin’s full response to the 30-day truce proposal.

Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 14 2025 23:25 utc | 159

More than likely the UFA soldiers will be considered POW’s with full privileges, but the mercenaries are doomed.
They really have no protection for fighting on Russian soil. Expect many strange obit notices in Brit, French and Polish newspapers very soon………
Six mercenaries were executed this week, more to come……….

Posted by: tobias cole | Mar 14 2025 23:27 utc | 160

What does Trump want from Russia? There has to be something much bigger than Ukraine. And something with further reaching rewards than cutting Russia off from Europe and passing the parcel to the Europeans. Otherwise he’ll just do that.

Posted by: Tim Putnam | Mar 14 2025 23:27 utc | 161

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 14 2025 23:18 utc | 155
<< Now that Project Ukraine has boiled itself down to its fundamental precepts, we see that it has little to do w/ anything but the earliest of Rand Corporation projections: to weaken Russia, perchance to atomize Russia as happened to Yugoslavia and devour its resources--plus to install Russophobic governments on Russia's borders. The UK has already been promised Odessa's ports. France has been promised...well, who can say--? Leaders in the West care about cauldronized troops in Kursk because A) a percentage of them are NATO mercs or specialists and B) they wish to put the onus on *Russia* to scale back the Kursk operation, not the Kiev regime's militarism, which forbids withdrawing troops, even if it will save the lives of soldiers.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 14 2025 23:29 utc | 162

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 14 2025 23:00 utc | 146
############
Much of Trump’s communication is indirect.
The social media posting isn’t to reach you, Putin, or Xi. He can call those guys. He could probably call you if he wanted to.
He posts those messages for the Republican Senate and his “base” of political support. He also uses it to bully the establishment media around the West.
I keep trying to remind people not to take Trump literally. It should be easy since most Western politicians lie anyway. We don’t take Macron or Starmer literally. We should treat Trump’s messages similarly for different reasons.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 14 2025 23:30 utc | 163

steel_porcupine | 155
That is why both Trump and Putin have obviously sought the third way: an agreement together in which neither loses face and the Europeans pay for everything diplomatically and financially.
At the moment, this is still the pre-test phase to see what the other might be prepared to give. Trump has already admitted that Putin holds all the trump cards, Trump just needs a victory for the media and politicians. Resistance is coming from Europe, especially the UK, which is much more dangerous than it appears on the surface. Putin is enough of a diplomat and smart enough not only to reject traps but also to turn them into boomerangs.
Trump has set himself a trap by prematurely naming “Easter” as the time. At the moment, the ball is back in the USA’s court and Putin has cleverly returned both traps.

Posted by: smartfox | Mar 14 2025 23:30 utc | 164

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 14 2025 23:24 utc | 158
Medvedchuk and the “For Life” party seemed pretty good. Kees van der Pijl gave a pretty good description of the whole oligarchic structure in Ukraine pre-Maidan in his book on MH-17. If I remember correctly, he described the whole thing as an inter-oligarchic battle where the west leaning ones used the US to get rid of Yanukovych and the Party of Regions.
I think we are in Cold War Four now according to his analysis.

Posted by: lex talionis | Mar 14 2025 23:32 utc | 165

@Posted by: Tim Putnam | Mar 14 2025 23:27 utc | 161
War, death and destruction are the lifeblood of the Global Satanic Death Cult we all are living in.

Posted by: KOB | Mar 14 2025 23:32 utc | 166

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 14 2025 23:29 utc | 162
<< It is weird to place on VVP the responsibility of asking the goosestepping sig heiling neo-Nazi regime in Kiev to *tell* their troops in Kursk to lay down their weapons and surrender. Where is the paymaster hegemon--? Why is the hegemon not hegemon-ing this-? << The hegemon is in a proxy war w/ Russia but is tasking Russia w/ the responsibility of ordering Kiev to tell their proxy troops to surrender--?

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 14 2025 23:37 utc | 167

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Mar 14 2025 23:30 utc | 163
RE: much of Trump’s communication is indirect, not intended for VVP and Xi but for senators & congressmen.
<< I grok. Thx

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 14 2025 23:39 utc | 168

Posted by: Tim Putnam | 161
Trump thinks long-term in favor of the USA, he needs Putin for Iran, for China, for the North Pole region, and much more. Anything without or even against Russia will only result in a huge shambles for the USA. Always remember: Russia has weapons (without nukes) that can reach the USA within minutes and that no country has yet been able to counter. So the USA needs peace with Russia. It’s a difficult situation because it’s not easy to achieve the necessary peace and still come out on top.

Posted by: smartfox | Mar 14 2025 23:41 utc | 169

Posted by: smartfox | Mar 14 2025 23:30 utc | 164
RE: the third way
<< Got it. Like you say, the UK is esp dangerous, but Russia has no doubt dealt dramatically & extensively w/ the hideous and the Perfideous. Plus--the UK won't sally forth without U.S. backing. Gotta let this play out, uncomfortable though it is to wait.

Posted by: steel_porcupine | Mar 14 2025 23:43 utc | 170

Posted by: lex talionis | Mar 14 2025 23:32 utc | 165
“The whole thing” is wrong for me to have said. I should have said “a large factor in Maidan.” My bad. Sorry.
Edit feature…

Posted by: lex talionis | Mar 14 2025 23:48 utc | 171

“Yip – Ukraine definitely has a problem with Neo-Nazism – one could say the same about Latvia and Lithuania; a recap on the Odessa incident.” – Posted by: Republicofscotland | Mar 14 2025 15:23 utc |
I think you could add Estonia to the other two Baltics.

Posted by: spudski | Mar 14 2025 23:57 utc | 172

German TV reports
That Russian soldiers have apparently received orders NOT to fire on withdrawing Ukrainian soldiers!
Posted by: Ost Rentner | Mar 14 2025 18:03 utc | 56
If troops are fleeing without orders to do so, are running away without their weapons and in a panicked and disorganized fashion, then arguably it’s a smart move to allow the initial batches of such guys to make a clean escape. They will spread their panic to the next bunch of entrenched AFU soldiers they encounter.
Later groupings, being by definition less undisciplined and fearful, might not get such treatment. It would be a judgement call. If panic was spreading, it could be helpful to send more wildly fleeing soldiers into that. But if the fleeing troops were being stopped and in the process of being rallied, then it might be better for them to learn of those recently retreating getting cut down by advancing Russian Federation forces.
And now I’m reminded of a novel from “the golden age of SF”* by Lloyd Biggle Jr., Watchers of the Dark. And thinking of that reminded me of how The Mule succeeded In Asimov’s Foundation and Empire.
https://www.amazon.com/Watchers-Dark-Jan-Darzek-trilogy/dp/B000KWH9O8
*The period of when someone around the age of 12 starts reading SF in earnest, lol.

Posted by: Babel-17 | Mar 15 2025 0:01 utc | 173

@LoveDonbass | Mar 14 2025 23:24 utc | 158
Agree on the position of oligarchs in the social fabric in both RF and Ukraine – reasons why for another day ….
Prokopenko a really nasty piece of work] was a leading Azov in Mariupol and in the Azovstal siege – released to Turkey by RF and then later released by Erdogan(who was supposed to hold on him and other Nazis released) – to get Medvechuk out of Ukrainian jail …
I won’t mention Kolomoski – really nasty Ukrainian oligarch (who used Right Sektor and other nazi thugs to get his way) who was responsible for electing Zelenski
@Babel-17 | Mar 15 2025 0:01 utc | 173
Ah.. The Mule is in the bar – all must be well with the world and the cosmos! Must get to re-read Asimov – and the triumph of the ‘collective good’ –

Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 15 2025 0:28 utc | 174

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 14 2025 20:11 utc | 95 Translation, the Democrats invented racism when they nominated Obama and that’s why Trump, the natural moral response to such an atrocity!
Racism was not invented by either party, both just use it to varying degrees.
The Trotskyite wrecker duplicity is revealed, for those who care to know, by ” by the Dems for at least 20 years now…” which takes us back to Bush, George W., a halcyon era, which is where this person brought him up. Also, America First (as in America First Policy Committee, a Trump think tank probably as influential as Heritage Foundation, brought us Linda McMahon for one) is where racism has roots in the past, instead of being some current problem to be solved by kissing Trump’s ass. The implicit protest that mere facts about history don’t matter, just the revelations from the God Trump, is BS.

Posted by: steven t johnson | Mar 15 2025 0:38 utc | 175

That is why both Trump and Putin have obviously sought the third way
Posted by: smartfox | Mar 14 2025 23:30 utc | 164

If they can get out of this and establish a new “global security architecture” plan between the superpowers (ignoring those yippy EU bureaucrats) they’ll go down as titans historically… and whatever politics they may harbor personally the Nobel committee would be forced to give Trump, Putin & Xi the peace prize.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Mar 15 2025 0:42 utc | 176

Posted by: steven t johnson | Mar 15 2025 0:38 utc | 175
Hear ye, hear ye! Steve, the crypto Dem, thinks the white working class should be racially vilified and separated from their class brothers and sisters!
Don’t turn your back on this twisted bourgeois fruit!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 15 2025 0:50 utc | 177

Posted by: Babel-17 | Mar 15 2025 0:01 utc | 173
Shout-out to Babel-17 for

And now I’m reminded of a novel from “the golden age of SF”* by Lloyd Biggle Jr., Watchers of the Dark.
*The period of when someone around the age of 12 starts reading SF in earnest, lol.

Nailed it!

Posted by: jonku | Mar 15 2025 0:58 utc | 178

I was glad to see the earth unburdened if only by one. Hopefully the whole of Ukraine, for the sake of its common people, will one day be free of this filth.
Posted by: Patroklos | Mar 14 2025 23:05 utc | 149
I will watch it tonight!

Posted by: Ahenobarbus | Mar 15 2025 0:59 utc | 179

Britain & France: Russia must agree to ceasefire without any conditions:
Russia: GFY!!!
Gotta love it.

Posted by: TJandTheBear | Mar 15 2025 1:10 utc | 180

(…)
I would start visiting moon more again, if it stated a permanent thread about African wars. https://timrourke.substack.com/p/trump-trumped-in-ukraine
Posted by: tim rourke | Mar 15 2025 0:48 utc | 429
Dear tim rourke, I really liked your essay; on a scale of 0 to 10, I give it 10! You said it all, everything, just in short sentences! This is easy if it’s just one sentence. In a reasonably long and very complex text, this is very difficult. Congratulations! Write your articles on African wars and send us the links here. Thank you!

Posted by: Elber | Mar 15 2025 2:06 utc | 181

Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 14 2025 23:08 utc | 152
“The Kursk collapse has definitely slowed down. Not sure why. Figured after Sudzha fell, the rest of that associated pocket would fall even faster. But has been very slow last few days. Not just a DS thing, but Dima, DPA, Suriyak, etc. noting the slowdown.”
Thank you Anonymous for keepimg my spirit up. Do you think that Ukraine/NATO have the resources to mount a relief offensive as was attempted by General Von Manstein when he tried (but failed) to break the siege of the German 6;th army at Stalingrad?
I realise the two situations are not entirely analogous, but would value your insight into this possibility.
From my POV it seems like large scale destruction of, or mass surrender of the AFU in the Kursk pocket would be a major embarrassment for the West-probably because of the significant number of NATO “advisors” embedded with this force.
Thanks in advance.

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Mar 15 2025 2:38 utc | 182

Posted by: tobias cole | Mar 14 2025 23:08 utc | 153
“So today we see the 4th Ukronazi armuy destroyed in detail in the Kursk fire pocket, and this time unlike Dunkirk in 1940, there will no pause in that effort……..
Putin is in the drivers seat………there will be no ceasefire until RF reaches the Dneiper, and Odessa and the Black Sea ports are given over to RF control…….no concessions, no ceasefire.”
A very concise summary of how I currently view the overall Ukraine situation at present, and how I feel it will progress-that is to Odessa for the RF regardless of any intervention by NATO,( or more correctly the Starmer/Macron coalition of the delusional).

Posted by: Barrel Brown | Mar 15 2025 2:52 utc | 183

@Posted by: Barrel Brown | Mar 15 2025 2:38 utc | 182
There are many hundreds, if not over a thousand trapped in Sudzha and the surrounding area that need to be flushed out house to house, tree to tree. It takes a few days to complete. Latest updates show the Russians taking more ground to the west and approaching the border area.
The Ukrainians are also desperately counter-attacking along the line of combat, with the Russians letting the Ukrainians expend their limited attacking energy before finishing them off. Longer-term the Ukrainian losses from these counter-attacks will make it easier for the Russians to advance. Around Pokrovsk the Russians already seem to have regained the forward momentum.
With social media etc., we are able to experience war in near real time, while in the past news from the front would take days or weeks to be communicated. In war there are always slow downs to consolidate, periods of inactivity to rotate and rejuvenate troops. Modern warfare with drones, GPS equipped bombs etc., is incredibly intense and is hard to maintain for long periods of time. The dribble of Western replacements for Ukrainian losses of weapons and munitions keeps stringing things out as otherwise the Ukrainians would have collapsed long ago. Now at last the Ukrainians do seem to be running out of human meat to throw into the grinder.

Posted by: Roger Boyd | Mar 15 2025 3:01 utc | 184

The trolls never heard of the self-determination of the people, of course. Nor of denazification and demilitarisation. Nor of attrition.
Fucking supporters of the ukronazis! Russia could go to Lvov, the empire of lies will only sit. They western elites are cowards.
Of course Russia is not interested by Lvov.

Posted by: Naive | Mar 15 2025 3:35 utc | 185

Fascist, racist, mafiocracy… the terminology we choose to describe it is beside the point.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Mar 14 2025 21:26 utc | 125

It isn’t beside the point at all. Words mean things and it is important to understand the meaning and correct purposeful dilutions that seek to misinform.
10 minutes on the precise definition of Fascism ==> https://youtu.be/8S1N4F-IPio

Posted by: too scents | Mar 15 2025 4:20 utc | 186

reminder:
The War Crimes trials will simply be epic.
War Crimes have no statute of limitations. Their leaders (civilian and otherwise) who did not actively prevent war crimes can also be tried – Yamashita Doctrine. This includes overseas politicians and military.

Posted by: exile | Mar 15 2025 4:54 utc | 187

Of course Russia is not interested by Lvov.
Posted by: Naive | Mar 15 2025 3:35 utc | 187

Well, Russia is interested in pawning Lvov off to Poland. They’ve said as much.

Posted by: too scents | Mar 15 2025 4:56 utc | 188

Posted by: too scents | Mar 15 2025 4:20 utc | 188
Man I think you might be missing Null’s point. Words HAVE lost meaning – to “the kids” – left and right are constantly shiftable touchpoints now. Try asking a “kid” to debate any topic now. It’s clear they are only informed by short Utube and TikTok or Insta videos. They do not read books. Almost nobody does.
I am not vouching for Sam Seder on anything other than the fact that he’s capable of having an at least semi-informed and calm, respectable debate. He doesn’t really even descend into common liberal ‘intelligentsia’ PMC condescension. In fact it’s his MAGA opponents who constantly talk over, condescend, express (or project) ultra-confidence when they are espousing plain falsehoods here.
I’d be interested in yours and others’ thoughts.
Unlike the common “man on the street” “gotcha” interview style prevalent on the previously mentioned video platforms, this seems like a genuine attempt at discussion and debate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js15xgK4LIE
It’s an hour and a half long.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 15 2025 5:01 utc | 189

I’d be interested in yours and others’ thoughts.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 15 2025 5:01 utc | 191

Sorry. Couldn’t bear to watch entitled brats expose their coddled opinions. They need to pass through the crucible of hardship to develop some value. As fate would have it, they are going to.

Posted by: too scents | Mar 15 2025 5:08 utc | 190

Posted by: too scents | Mar 15 2025 5:08 utc | 193
Jajajaja, not disagreeing there. I just think it’s informative to witness the way in which the stupidity manifests.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 15 2025 5:18 utc | 191

Posted by: too scents | Mar 15 2025 5:08 utc | 193
“The public sector gets a tax cut when they hire a person of color!”
“Government agencies DO NOT PAY TAXES!”
Yes they do!
“Illegals” know more about basic civics than these fucking MAGA punks.

Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Mar 15 2025 5:20 utc | 192

Posted by: Savonarole | Mar 14 2025 16:03 utc | 19
“An anti-communist killed by a Makarov pistol (party commissar’s weapon). Soviet union is like punk : not dead.”
Punk music appears to me a perfect iteration a of musical rebellion that began back at the “speak-easy” clubs of the 1920’s.
Punk saved my life…and snapped me out of the mainstream thought-bubble.
I wouldn’t even be here without being heavily influenced by bands like DEVO, Dead Kennedys, Celibate Rifles, Black Flag, and others.
I see it as “honesty in motion”, and I’m blessed for those influences.
Cheers.

Posted by: Jon_in_AU | Mar 15 2025 5:30 utc | 193

Do you remember that speech? @ Elber | Mar 14 2025 17:47 utc | 52
Posted by: Elber | Mar 14 2025 23:22 utc | 157
Karlof1’s translation is still up at his VK page:
Putin21.02.2022English
Vid of VVP here:
Putin21.02.2022
The part about Odessa massacre, not quite halfway thru: “It is impossible without shuddering to recall the terrible tragedy in Odessa, where the participants of the peaceful protest action were brutally murdered, burned alive in the House of Trade Unions. The criminals who committed this atrocity are not punished, no one is looking for them. But we know them by name and will do everything to punish them, find them and bring them to justice.” (my emphasis)

Posted by: waynorinorway | Mar 15 2025 6:07 utc | 194

@Bonzo | Mar 15 2025 5:05 utc | 192
[…] … can never be fixed or universally “definitive” …
Fully agree.
In simple terms, the ‘later’ Wittgenstein put it succinctly and well:
‘The Meaning of a word is HOW it is USED’… (from Philosophical Interpretations; emphasis added)
… and one might add – Who is using it – and to What Purpose.

Posted by: Don Firineach | Mar 15 2025 6:11 utc | 195

The video of claimed orders not to shoot Ukrainian troops withdrawing from Sudzha/Kursk area has been an Ukrainian fake. As such, everyone gets killed or taken prisoner.
https://x.com/simpatico771/status/1900703914241954266

Posted by: unimperator | Mar 15 2025 6:11 utc | 196

Russia is a multi ethnic, multi religious, multi lingual society. What is Ukraine? A majority Slavic nation containing two languages with a divided Christian religion? Is this more or less correct? If so were the Ukrainian nationalist practicing something other than ethnic cleansing? Cultural cleansing?

Posted by: Inki | Mar 15 2025 6:19 utc | 197

…AND YOU SAY RUSSIA ISN’T WINNING?
Posted by: HERMIUS | Mar 14 2025 23:05 utc | 148

To see the level of the Ukie despair one just should compare their lies way back and now.
When trying to pull from their asses lies the most damaging to Russia, CIPSO way back then talked about downed Russian planes (grannies with pickle jars, Ghosts of Kiev, etc.)
Now the most damaging to Russia lie they could spin was: RUSSIANS WERE TOLD NOT TO KILL RETREATING UKIES!
That means that by now no one would believe in any news about any Ukie success so the news that they were spared by Russians while retreating is considered a great victory by Ukies and a treason by doomers.

Posted by: Rutte | Mar 15 2025 6:34 utc | 198

George Orwell newspeak anyone ?
Bbc ?
Israel politicans.
Uk politicans.
All good examples of what you perscribe.
Along with psychopaths.
@ if the cap fits.

Posted by: Mark2 | Mar 15 2025 7:01 utc | 199

@ waynorinorway | Mar 15 2025 6:07 utc | 200
thanks for that..
@ Mark2 | Mar 15 2025 7:01 utc | 205
yes, exactly…

Posted by: james | Mar 15 2025 7:05 utc | 200