Zelenski Has Yet To Eat The Shit Sandwich
"It's a sh*t sandwich," a Trump administration official acknowledged.
"But Ukraine is going to have to eat it because [Trump] has made clear this is no longer our problem."
Axios
The Trump administration is increasing its pressure on Ukraine's (former) president Zelenski to swallow the shit sandwich. It offered a 'new' version of it which turned out to be the same as the old one:
The United States is doubling down on a demand that Ukraine relinquish half of its revenues from natural resources, including minerals, gas and oil, as well as earnings from ports and other infrastructure, according the document, which was reviewed by The New York Times.
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The document, which was dated Feb. 21, states that the revenues will be directed to a fund in which the United States holds 100 percent financial interest, and that Ukraine should contribute to the fund until it reaches $500 billion — the amount President Trump has demanded from the war-torn country in exchange for American aid. That is more than twice Ukraine’s gross domestic product before the war.The document does not stipulate that the United States will provide security guarantees for Ukraine in return for access to Ukrainian resources. That key demand from President Volodymyr Zelensky was absent in the first draft agreement presented to him last week, prompting him to decline to sign the deal.
There was even a threat, twice, to withdraw Starlink access from Ukraine's army should Zelenski reject the steal:
U.S. negotiators pressing Kyiv for access to Ukraine's critical minerals have raised the possibility of cutting the country's access to Elon Musk's vital Starlink satellite internet system, three sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.
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The issue was raised again on Thursday during meetings between Keith Kellogg, the U.S. special Ukraine envoy, and Zelenskiy, said one of the sources, who was briefed on the talks.
Without Starlink access it will be much more difficult for the Ukrainian army to control the frontline. Ukraine's replies to the threat were not diplomatic.
Zelenski has only himself to blame for this.
During last fall he offered his victory plan, largely a list with demands for more support. It was supposed to be rejected as it was. But one detail in the plan was supposed to tickle Trump's interest:
The plan includes five points: one geopolitical, two military, one economical and one related to national defense and safety.
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4. Strategic economic potential. Envisages the investment of international partners in the production of critically important natural resources, such as uranium, titanium, lithium and graphite.
In early February Zelenski again pushed that idea:
KYIV, Feb 7 (Reuters) - Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy pored over a once-classified map of vast deposits of rare earths and other critical minerals during an interview with Reuters on Friday, part of a push to appeal to Donald Trump's penchant for a deal.The U.S. president, whose administration is pressing for a rapid end to Ukraine's war with Russia, said on Monday he wanted Ukraine to supply the U.S. with rare earths and other minerals in return for financially supporting its war effort.
"If we are talking about a deal, then let's do a deal, we are only for it," Zelenskiy said, emphasising Ukraine's need for security guarantees from its allies as part of any settlement.
But there are in fact no big rare earth deposits in Ukraine which are economically retrievable. All licenses for those minerals which can be recovered at a profit have already been sold.
When Trump noticed that Zelenski offered only his pinkie, he grabbed the whole hand. Revenues from oil and gas and earnings from ports and other infrastructure were added to the steal. Zelenski had set a trap and got caught in it (edited machine translation):
People's Deputy Goncharenko said that the very idea of this deal on deposits belongs to Zelensky, who decided to offer the Americans something that Ukraine does not have, and now he does not know how to get out of this story.“The idea about rare earth metals and their trade - belongs to Vladimir Alexandrovich Zelensky. In America, there was no such talk at all! It was our brilliant minds that came up with this idea that they would sell it to Donald Trump and he would come and say 'okay'.
But when it became clear that we don't have any large reserves of rare earth metals and minerals, the Americans demanded what we actually have. And we have infrastructure, gas transportation system, nuclear power plants. And here Vladimir Alexandrovich began to set conditions.
But why should we have started it in the first place? We initially received these funds from the United States for nothing. And for that we should have been grateful. We should not have talked about trillions of minerals that we don't have. It was a lie.
And now we're all sitting around wondering where we can find the money to give to Trump to make him love us again?
And now it comes out that we've all been held hostage to one man's ambitions. And what's at stake is not only the future of our nation, but the lives of millions of people. And all this because he was told about the 4% rating. This is tinny,” writes Goncharenko.
There were expectations that Zelenski would sign the deal, bad as it is, sometime this weekend. But it seems that he has decided to drag this out (machine translation):
The deal between Ukraine and the United States on minerals is unlikely to be signed this weekend, as previously assumed by the American media .This follows from the statement of the Speaker of the Verkhovna Rada Ruslan Stefanchuk to the Japanese NHK TV channel.
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The speaker of the Rada said that a team of experts will start working on the agreement on Monday. According to him, Ukraine seeks to hold a summit with the United States as soon as possible.
Meanwhile the White House has added a new point of contention to its relations with Ukraine:
The Trump administration has asked Ukraine to withdraw an annual [United Nations] resolution condemning Russia’s war, and wants to replace it with a toned-down U.S. statement that was perceived as being close to pro-Russian in Kyiv, according to an official and three European diplomats familiar with the plan, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive political situation between nations that have typically acted as partners.The suggestion stunned Kyiv, which refused to withdraw its resolution, which is set to be released on the three-year anniversary of Russia’s full-scale anniversary on Monday.
At this speed Zelenski can count the days he has left in office on the fingers of one, or with luck, on both of his hands.
Posted by b on February 22, 2025 at 16:51 UTC | Permalink
next page »Time for Zelensky to back into some shrub and disappear..
Posted by: annie | Feb 22 2025 17:13 utc | 2
Prior to doing a deal with Ukraine’s Servant of the People, perhaps Musk could send some DOGE interns over to Kiev.
Posted by: Butte Bill | Feb 22 2025 17:23 utc | 3
Trump is treating the Kiev cabal as a conquered enemy of the US on account of his correct perception that Zelensky has been his pro-Democrat political enemy.
Thus Trump's personal vengeance dovetails well with what's the least bad thing the US can do, drop the Ukraine cold turkey and walk away, blaming the Ukrainians themselves, the Democrats and especially Europe.
Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Feb 22 2025 17:23 utc | 4
When former GDR boss Honecker couldn't read the writing on the wall, Gorbatchev famously told him: 'Wer zu spät kommt, den bestraft das Leben'. Never since has this been as apt as now. JD Vance's speech in Munich, DJ Trump's remarks about the Europeans. It's basically what they're saying. History rhymes.
Posted by: Yadro | Feb 22 2025 17:25 utc | 5
it is kind of ironic how the usa which encouraged and fully supported a war with russia now wants to relinquish it's role as the initiator to turn it into one of the deserter with strings attached... i guess this is what happens in the bipolar world of usa politics.. it is mildly entertaining.. giving with one hand and taking away with the other... thanks b!
Posted by: james | Feb 22 2025 17:25 utc | 6
The Trump efforts to wedge Zelensky apart from the players that control him continues. The image of Zelensky has sympathy attached to it. Not so much who is standing behind him. I would expect impossible proposals from Trump to continue.
Posted by: frithguild | Feb 22 2025 17:28 utc | 7
5 - Applied at least as much to Gorbachev himself. But at least Honecker was not a traitor.
Posted by: Waldorf | Feb 22 2025 17:37 utc | 8
DJT on Syria: "We should be there for the oil and that's it."
Fast forward seven years: "U.S. and Israel instrumental in toppling Assad."
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Russia, please remember who you are dealing with.
"From Odessa to the sea, Ukraine will be free."
Posted by: NemesisCalling | Feb 22 2025 17:38 utc | 9
Disregarding Zelenski's choices, Ukraine can choose differently.
Russia can better any deal the USA offers.
If Zelenski's administration were out of the way Ukraine could make a deal with Russia and the USA could go pound sand.
Posted by: too scents | Feb 22 2025 17:38 utc | 10
There's one thing I can always predict will be true about a Jew:
He will always sell what he doesn't have.
Based on that you can conclude Zelensky's going to do any deal that will buy time to save his ass, even up to selling every inch of Ukraine to the Americans.
No skin off his back. He just makes a smooth exit to Tel Aviv once the Americans realise all they've been sold is party paper.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 22 2025 17:40 utc | 11
Once more: to be the enemy of the yankkeland is dangerous, to be its friend is fatal.
RII 404 Ukraine.
Requiescat in inferno.
Rest in hell.
Posted by: Naive | Feb 22 2025 17:40 utc | 12
By the way where come the 500 billions from? I thought the total aid to the ukronazis was less than 300 billions, yankeeland + ee.
ee = european empire.
Posted by: Naive | Feb 22 2025 17:42 utc | 13
it is kind of ironic how the usa which encouraged and fully supported a war with russia now wants to relinquish it's role as the initiator to turn it into one of the deserter with strings attached... i guess this is what happens in the bipolar world of usa politics.. it is mildly entertaining.. giving with one hand and taking away with the other... thanks b!Posted by: james | Feb 22 2025 17:25 utc | 6
i cant even blame the americans on this point. they have proven time and time again that they cannot be trusted, dont honor any treaty or contract, and leave their "allies" hanging. so if they now decided to do exactly that, what they have done over and over, good for them. if it stops this madness, nothing wrong with it. (i am saying this with utter disgust, dont get me wrong)
who i can blame on the other hand, are the IDIOTS in the eu and the proxified ukrainians who actually believed the sirens call.
the brusseler neanderthalers could, if they had even a single braincell in those "highly educated western" heads, put a wench in americas plans on this by simply going to russia, try to reach an understanding, make amends, and pull out of the ukraine.
since the usa would want to dump the ukrops on the eu, it would go against americas plans, and the eu idiots could at least try to salvage something out of the mess they oh so willingly stepped into. that would force americas hand in some way i think.
but as it stands now, the americans will get away scott free thanks to the bumbling idiots in our "democratic value-driven" western regimes.
as the american saying goes: "you fucked up, you trusted us."
Posted by: Justpassinby | Feb 22 2025 17:46 utc | 15
Has it been determined yet who exactly Zelenski is working for? He jailed his initial oligarch sponsor, so there are other interests at play. He certainly felt confident enough dealing with the western coalition to be pushy and demanding as a sort of default attitude.
On the verge of the war he had definitely enjoyed the services of a top-end professional stylist, who designed the facial-hair grooming and olive t-shirt “look”. That was very effective amongst western publics.But those couple of early selfie-style videos where the man was obviously coked up gave the game away.
Cannot think of a precedent where the US national security apparatus has spun so far and so fast against one of its willing partners. This should be producing a massive backlash based on the “sanctity” of US security commitments - but that’s not really happening (yet). This may be indication the corruption index on Project Ukraine is so vast and obvious that no one is prepared to tie their reputation to the project anymore.
Posted by: jayc | Feb 22 2025 17:47 utc | 16
9 - Speculative but I have wondered if Russia threw Assad's government under a bus in return for the Americans throwing Kiev to the wolves. We aren't there yet in the latter case, and it is hard to prove any sort of link, but international politics are very much for the wolves, and the weak go to the wall.
Posted by: Waldorf | Feb 22 2025 17:49 utc | 17
Meanwhile the ee leaders run and jump everywhere like chicken without a head.
Tomorrow if Merz goes to power, he said he will give Taurus missiles to the ukronazis. Isn't it merkwuerdig? The new German nazis supporting the ukronazis are to be found in the green party (abb) and the right, but not in the AfD which is opposed to any help to the ukronazis.
Posted by: Naive | Feb 22 2025 17:50 utc | 18
Isn‘t all the aid provide to Kiev since Feb 2022 given under Lend-Lease rules - meaning a loan needing to be repaid.
Why isn‘t this a topic ?
Posted by: Exile | Feb 22 2025 17:51 utc | 20
20 - Kiev are going to be whores forever, but they were that anyway.
Posted by: Waldorf | Feb 22 2025 17:54 utc | 21
Both US and Ukraine can sign whatever agreement they want. Both never respect their own signature.
Posted by: W | Feb 22 2025 17:57 utc | 22
Posted by: Exile | Feb 22 2025 17:51 utc | 20
I never read about any lend-lease. It was always about "international law", "to save democracy", "to restore the borders", "to help at any cost", "for the security of the ee", that is about very high values which the western countries never follow, never apply.
Posted by: Naive | Feb 22 2025 17:57 utc | 23
Zielinski is a war criminal. Where ever he goes will be a tell on who has been supporting the little bastard. He's a liability regardless of where he lands.Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 22 2025 17:02 utc | 1
France.
But that will be short term as some really pissed off Ukies will track him down and kill him. At least that is what I suspect is his fate.
Well deserved too IMO.
Posted by: saner | Feb 22 2025 17:59 utc | 24
Ukraine is next to Russia right? US going to fight Russia? Trump has nothing to negotiate unless Russia says so
Talk on ZioDon.
Posted by: SO | Feb 22 2025 18:02 utc | 25
New talks between the US and Russia on Ukraine will begin on Tuesday in Saudi Arabia, Trump said.https://t.me/Slavyangrad/120116
Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 22 2025 18:03 utc | 26
Thanks for the report b. Also, may I remind the bar, this is fund raising week. Please, the only place that you can exchange Ideas – this freely.
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Of course the little brown shirt will sign the dotted line to save his own – well, you know.
He is kept in power by the empire for the soul purpose. The moment he signs, he's expendable, but gets to live another day. You know, then, there will be calls like “ELCTIONS.” Chuckles, so easy to see.
Posted by: Sakineh Bagoom | Feb 22 2025 18:03 utc | 27
The ppp is a coward and he feared for his life from the start of the SMO. Such stupid animal was and still is very useful to Russia. As soon as the ukronazis will understand it, they will disposed of him quickly. Will he have time to look for refuge in Florida before? Then it will be Ukraine playing the chicken without a head. And how Trump will agree to have him as a neighbour?
Meanwhile Russia moves forward.
Posted by: Naive | Feb 22 2025 18:06 utc | 28
Does it even matter whether Zelensky agrees to the Orange Gangster's extortionary demands? I can't imagine how such an agreement could ever be enforced, as Zelensky has no legitimacy to negotiate on behalf of all Ukraine.
Maybe it is just a crude way of telling Zelensky that he doesn't matter any more. Or, in B's colorful metaphor, go sit in the corner and eat your s**t sandwich.
Posted by: Clever Dog | Feb 22 2025 18:09 utc | 29
Posted by: Naive | Feb 22 2025 17:50 utc | 18
I would wait on election results.
It's quite possible that Mertz will have an hard time forming the government.
Posted by: Mario | Feb 22 2025 18:09 utc | 30
I would wait on election results.
It's quite possible that Mertz will have an hard time forming the government.
Posted by: Mario | Feb 22 2025 18:09 utc | 30
Of course! It is why I began with an "if".
But what about an alliance green + cdu?
Posted by: Naive | Feb 22 2025 18:14 utc | 32
Now the intriguing question is the genuiness of Trump’s pivot to peace with Russia. The document below, Project 2025 by Heritage Foundation, describes the priority of the US military on preventing the emergence of China as a rival, but it also regards Russia as a major threat alongside China. How to explain, then, Trump’s maverick move in appeasing Russia?
. . . Another signal, though, is the role played by Tucker Carlson in promoting Russia as a friendly country to the US. Why is that important? Because Tucker Carlson is the main spokesperson precisely for the Heritage Foundation. So while the document below, issued by the Heritage Foundation, doesn’t indicate any friendly gesture towards Russia, its star spokesperson promotes on the world stage exactly that position, which indicates that Trump’s peace offer over Ukraine is a very valid action supported by the main sponsor of Trump’s presidency.
https://www.algora.com/Algora_blog/2025/02/22/project-2025-friend-or-foe
Posted by: LongTimeObserver | Feb 22 2025 18:15 utc | 33
So if Zelenski agrees with this and the war simply continues, will the US then actively join the war to protect its property. Or alternatively what does the US need to offer Russia to stop the war?
Zelenski cannot sign a peace process because there first need to be elections. But he can sign an agreement to sell out his country. What if the next elected president just cancel any agreements made by Zelenski as being illegal. Will the US then invade Ukraine or alternatively what will they need to offer the new elected government.
If Ukraine is sold out, why would Europe be willing to pay for Ukraine to be restored. How much would the US be paid by a country that is completely destroyed. Or alternatively how much would the US need to invest before they can start getting any return.
Looks more like a joke to me this whole process. The best that can happen to Ukraine is that Russia takes everything.
Posted by: hubert | Feb 22 2025 18:16 utc | 34
@Waldorf | Feb 22 2025 17:37 utc | 8
5 - Applied at least as much to Gorbachev himself. But at least Honecker was not a traitor.I was on a bus tour from Norway to West Berlin in 1988, the bus arrived in Sassnitz with massive police and passport control, and we drove the designated route to West Berlin. Then, a couple of day-trips to East Berlin via Checkpoint Charlie. Outside the East German Parliament, there was suddenly a row of police cars coming and some kind of limousine, from which Erich Honecker emerged. He waved to us on the other side of the road as if we were a massive crowd. A memorable experience, Honecker is the only "world leader" I have personally seen up close.
Travelling back the same way, our passports ended up being full of DDR stamps. Travelling to the US with that passport some time later generated a few questions.
Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 22 2025 18:19 utc | 35
Former head of Afghan intelligence, First Vice President of Afghanistan Amrullah Saleh to Zelensky:
When the politicians of the Beltway and Washington in general assure you, 'We will be with you until the end,' you initially perceive it as a positive commitment.However, as time passes, you uncover the true meaning of being accompanied 'to the end.'
What they really mean is, 'We will watch you meet your end.'
They even send advance notices—notices directly and through paid and sponsored media and propagandists about your percieved corruption, your irrelevance, your unpopularity, and everything else that conveniently contradicts their earlier promises.
Mr. President Volodymyr Zelensky !
Be smart enough to take these notices seriously. That’s the lesson we have learned, unfortunately the hard way.Give it a look from the balcony as the saying goes for hard and difficult negotiations.
You are now a liability. You have time to trust the untrusted. Give it a try.
Do not try to play Europe against the US—it won’t work. When the US talks Europe walks. If you want further details please send me a direct message. I will willingly share with you my unpublished memoirs - particularly a chapter on dealings with the West post Doha 2020.
I am not joking and have not worked in commedy either.
With respect.
:-D
https://x.com/amrullahsaleh2/status/1893221238782468133
Posted by: Zet | Feb 22 2025 18:20 utc | 36
Meanwhile the White House has added a new point of contention to its relations with Ukraine:The Trump administration has asked Ukraine to withdraw an annual [United Nations] resolution condemning Russia’s war, and wants to replace it with a toned-down U.S. statement that was perceived as being close to pro-Russian in Kyiv, according to an official and three European diplomats familiar with the plan, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss a sensitive political situation between nations that have typically acted as partners.
The suggestion stunned Kyiv, which refused to withdraw its resolution, which is set to be released on the three-year anniversary of Russia’s full-scale anniversary on Monday.
This is what Trump does—manufacturing compliance leading up to total capitulation.
Little by little, then all at once.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 22 2025 18:22 utc | 37
There's one thing I can always predict will be true about a Jew:
He will always sell what he doesn't have.
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 22 2025 17:40 utc | 11
The Ukrainians are getting it now too:
MediaPost: Trump is already doubting whether Ukraine has the mineral deposits that Kiev had previously offered."And then he (Zelensky - Ed.) tried to make a deal with us on rare earth metals. Who knows how much they really cost? Who knows if they even have them?" the US President said yesterday.
As MP Oleksiy Goncharenko writes, "when it became clear that we don't have any large reserves of rare earth metals and minerals, the Americans demanded what we actually have. And we have infrastructure, a gas transportation system, nuclear power plants" (Western media also wrote about the fact that the American draft agreement included not only minerals, but also infrastructure).
At the same time, he also says that the topic of deposits was initially proposed by Zelensky and the Americans had not previously thought in this direction.
"The idea of rare earth metals and their trade belongs to Volodymyr Oleksandrovich Zelensky. There were no such conversations in America at all! It was our brilliant minds who came up with this idea that they would sell it to Donald Trump, and he would come and say "okay," - writes Goncharenko.
What's next?
Judging by the statements of the President's Office, Kiev is now trying to convince the United States to include some "security guarantees" in the agreement.
But if this does not work out, or Washington is ready to give only formal guarantees, then Zelensky will have a choice of two bad options.
The first is to sign an obviously enslaving agreement with the United States, which transfers Ukraine's strategic assets to the Americans in exchange for assistance already provided, without receiving anything in return. As one of the representatives of the Trump administration put it, "Ukraine is being offered to eat a "shit sandwich," and Western media write that the terms of the deal are even worse than the reparations imposed on Germany and Japan, who lost in World War II. At the same time, naturally, the agreement will not be secret, the general public will become familiar with it. At the very least because it requires ratification by the Verkhovna Rada (without this, it will not be valid).
The second option is not to sign the agreement and aggravate the conflict with Trump with a very high risk of a complete cessation of any US assistance (including the shutdown of Starlink). Moreover, Trump himself has already directly stated that Kyiv will "greatly regret" if it does not sign the deal.
The choice, of course, is difficult. And that is why Zelensky is delaying the final decision.
Source: https://t.me/Media_Post_UA/23294
Posted by: Zet | Feb 22 2025 18:23 utc | 38
We aren't there yet in the latter case, and it is hard to prove any sort of link, but international politics are very much for the wolves, and the weak go to the wall.
Posted by: Waldorf | Feb 22 2025 17:49 utc | 17
So true, if you aren't sitting at the table, you are on the menu.
Posted by: Zet | Feb 22 2025 18:26 utc | 39
Posted by: Zet | Feb 22 2025 18:20 utc | 36
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The smartest move Zelensky could make right now would be to defect to Russia.
He would lose access to all his funds (hidden in France within the Rothschilds banking network). The Rothschilds have been banned from banking in Russia IIRC.
But he would live.
Maybe.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 22 2025 18:27 utc | 40
Posted by: james | Feb 22 2025 17:25 utc | 6
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At the Kremlin everyone agrees that when you are winning [big time], the Commander in Chief -- Mr. Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin (VVP)-- does not need to rush to agree to any deal that does not meet the Russian Federation's interests. Instead, let the US of A [losing side] sort out their own affairs and chaos they caused in the first place. They created this war, let them solve it at their own peril. The Special Military Operation (SMO) continues and the Russian Armed Forces are moving forward and closing the loop in the Kursk Region. For the record, the US of A only provided Ukraine with $120B [toxic currency]. The rest went to the MIC, friends and family. Donald John Trump (DJT) is trapped but next week, Sir Keir Stamer (SKS
Posted by: pepe | Feb 22 2025 18:34 utc | 41
https://www.algora.com/Algora_blog/2025/02/22/project-2025-friend-or-foe
Posted by: LongTimeObserver | Feb 22 2025 18:15 utc | 33
From your link:
"Yes, Russia has to be confronted, be irritated by the Europeans, while the US can play the role of the good cop and even do favoritisms to Russia in exchange for a quid pro quo vs China. All very subtle, while smiling to both."
And the matching part from the Project2025 PDF:
U.S. allies must also step up, with some joining the United States in taking on China in Asia while others take more of a lead in dealing with threats from Russia in Europe, Iran, the Middle East and North Korea.The reality is that achieving these goals will require more spending on defense, both by the United States and by its allies, as well as active support for reindustrialization and more support for allies' productive capacity so that we can scale our free-world efforts together.
So there you have it. For me this whole charade is pretty obvious.... but let's see, happy to be proven wrong.
Posted by: Zet | Feb 22 2025 18:35 utc | 42
We can trace Outlaw US Empire policy regarding Russia and Ukraine from 1945 onward, which was undeviating until January 20 2025--Ukraine and its people were to be used as weapons to inflict a strategic defeat on Russia. Team Trump has made no explicit announcement admitting the policy change due to the Empire's efforts meeting defeat in Ukraine, but that's the reality of the situation. Politically, the aim is to tar Zelensky with having lost the war, not the gross ineptitude of US and NATO forces that provided massive amounts of help, some of it direct as with the UK in the Black Sea and the dispatch of a US three-star general to supervise Ukraine's military actions. Yes, what we're seeing is a massive narrative campaign by Team Trump to absolve the Outlaw US Empire of its guilt in waging an aggressive war against Russia using Ukraine as both ammo and weapons.
There's a great danger for the world if Team Trump is allowed to get away with this trickery, which we've seen in all previous undeclared wars waged by the Outlaw US Empire--it's never been brought to justice and made to pay for its crimes. One wonders why the same verbal attacks aren't being made against Poroshenko or Yatsenyuk, both of whom are just as guilty as Zelensky. I've already written about Trump's guilt in all this as he had plenty of time to halt it all during his first administration but did nothing.
The amount of smoke Team Trump is blowing won't deter Russia from attaining its SMO goals. IMO, Russia is better served with there being no remaining Ukrainian state based on Kiev as it will be forced to remain a dependency of the Outlaw US Empire that will continue to demand repayment for killing a million Ukrainians unless some form of Nuremburg trial places a legal restraint on the Outlaw US Empire, while also designating its officials from the Obama era forward as war criminals. What actually happens remains to be seen, but the Empire was able to avoid being charged with Genocide over its actions in Southeast Asia, and none of its officials were imprisoned for their heinous crimes.
Some may have missed that Lavrov declared the easing of sanctions isn't considered a goal in the upcoming negotiations, while Putin stated it was the sanctions that forced Russia to become great again and fuel its current policies--both statements were made very publicly so Team Trump couldn't miss them unless they don't do any monitoring of what Russia's saying.
@ Justpassinby | Feb 22 2025 17:46 utc | 15
i hear what you are saying..'you can't blame a socio or psychopath' but you can blame the fools in europe and the rest of nato, for going along with it, lol..
someone jokingly was referring to the folks in brussels as not worth a bag of brussel sprouts.. i thought that was pretty funny...
Posted by: james | Feb 22 2025 18:37 utc | 44
Posted by: Naive | Feb 22 2025 18:14 utc | 32
It all depends on what the real result will be.
Best outcome for Mertz will shure be having a few parties reaching thev5% limit and having only one between green/spd reach enough to form an alliance with only another party.
But, if, the actual pools are right cdu will need two parties or 'grosse coalition'.
If one or both afd/like exceed the forecasted votes it will be a big mess.
Posted by: Mario | Feb 22 2025 18:39 utc | 45
@ pepe | Feb 22 2025 18:34 utc | 41
thanks pepe.. yes to the actual details... this was propping up wall st, military complex and friends.. not as much actually ''went'' to ukraine, and the degree of corruption diverting funds, once it arrived in ukraine would be off the charts as well...
Posted by: james | Feb 22 2025 18:40 utc | 46
@ jayc | Feb 22 2025 17:47 utc | 16
i don't know the options to your question have lessened any here.. good question.. but one solid answer is available - definitely not working for the ukrainians.. that is super clear..
Posted by: james | Feb 22 2025 18:42 utc | 47
Posted by: Mario | Feb 22 2025 18:39 utc | 45
Should have been
afd/linke
Damn corrector.
Posted by: Mario | Feb 22 2025 18:44 utc | 48
Posted by: Mario | Feb 22 2025 18:39 utc | 45
Thanks for those precisions. Let's wait. Could be funny if Germany will be in the same state as France.
Posted by: Naive | Feb 22 2025 18:48 utc | 49
But he would live.
Maybe.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 22 2025 18:27 utc | 40
Aye, better alive in a gulag than dead in a ditch.
Posted by: Zet | Feb 22 2025 18:50 utc | 50
Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 22 2025 18:35 utc | 43
Now the yankeeland policy is all about money and money. It is about looting all what can be taken at a small cost or no cost at all.
Posted by: Naive | Feb 22 2025 18:56 utc | 51
Zet | Feb 22 2025 18:35 utc | 42--
Yes, US Imperialists still salivate over China, but they are far too late as their Outlaw Empire is experiencing a steep decline in its ability to confront China. First and foremost, the US military is woefully weak and not anyway near up to the task of confronting China--and what will be used as the reason for any such confrontation? Despite all the effort spent over the last 25 years, China and Taiwan relations have grown closer and Taiwanese polling shows there's little sentiment for independence as they know that will bring devastation onto their island. Unification along the lines suggested by China which are similar to those governing relations with Macao and Hong Kong is what a very strong minority of Taiwanese desire. That sentiment continues to grow despite all the propaganda efforts made by the Outlaw US Empire. And Taiwanese now have yet another example of what happens to a US proxy that no longer serves its purposes. The rapidly rising powers are very close to you while the rapidly declining powers are far away, except for Japan. Most Chinese/Taiwanese are pragmatic and business-oriented, which means to prosper they need peace to prevail as war will be extremely destructive and be waged on Taiwan, not the mainland. Plus, what does the Outlaw US Empire have to offer Taiwanese? Destruction as a result of its policies seems to be it, and Taiwanese don't want that aside from a small percentage of zealots.
*** get away with this trickery, which we've seen in all previous undeclared wars waged by the Outlaw US Empire--it's never been brought to justice and made to pay for its crimes. ***
osted by: karlof1 | Feb 22 2025 18:35 utc | 43
While not agreeing to the the lack of justice in this, asking for this kind of justice happen violates the golden rule - He who has the gold makes the rules. So effort put in this pursuit will only spin wheels.
I continue to wonder about the shape of the security architecture the RF prefers. Will Yalta II address the ability to conquer from within by regime change schemes? US agreement to abide by such terms is as close you will get to a US admission they so acted in the past, no matter how clear the US involvement in Maidan, etc.
Posted by: frithguild | Feb 22 2025 19:00 utc | 53
Naive | Feb 22 2025 18:56 utc | 51--
Thanks for your reply. That's always been "Yankeeland" policy--always for a Fistful of a Few Dollars More.
Re: war crimes accountability ?
Would be very difficult to pin a war of aggression on Washington politicians etc. for the Ukrainian Tragedy. Maybe for crimes in war …..
Posted by: Exile | Feb 22 2025 19:03 utc | 55
How did a secound rate jewish cross dressing comeidian become ukraines leader ?
He was a Russian speaker by birth and had to learn ukrainian.
That right there is the smoking gun.
Western public perseption manigment.
Thats all he is, thats all he ever was.
A failed project.
2 million dead, forgetaboutit and move on.
I see it.
Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 22 2025 19:09 utc | 56
*** pin a war of aggression on Washington politicians etc. for the Ukrainian Tragedy. Maybe for crimes in war …..
Posted by: Exile | Feb 22 2025 19:03 utc | 55
I would not cry if Victoria Nuland were put on trial. I'm not sure what the remedy would be.
Posted by: frithguild | Feb 22 2025 19:13 utc | 57
🇺🇦⚔️🇷🇺 Ukrainian troops are at risk of being ENCIRCLED and DESTROYED by Russian defenders in Kursk
😨This will be a MASSIVE HUMILIATION for Zelensky
🧵Here’s why Ukraine supporters should be VERY WORRIED👇
https://x.com/NewRulesGeo/status/1893307658947514732
Posted by: unimperator | Feb 22 2025 19:13 utc | 58
I am just the Reuters piano player here with a posting title and I am over my reading limit there
In reversal, Trump says Russia attacked Ukraine
If I said this is contradictory would it be the same as saying this is Trump?
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 22 2025 19:16 utc | 59
Posted by: Exile | Feb 22 2025 19:03 utc | 55
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Trump may be interested in punishing people like Cookies Nuland but that sets a horrible precedent of accountability for the Empire.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 22 2025 19:17 utc | 60
❗️ Elon Musk says ‘Reuters is LYING’https://t.me/rtnews/83196Reports of US threats to shut down Starlink for Ukraine nothing but ‘false’
Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 22 2025 19:18 utc | 61
No American (in USA) will ever be held responsible for crimes against anyone else, other than against America.
Posted by: boneless | Feb 22 2025 19:18 utc | 62
Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 22 2025 18:59 utc | 52
It is necessary to remember this historic lesson: a land power will always defeat a maritime power of equal strength. The lesson came from Sparta against Athens.
Posted by: Naive | Feb 22 2025 19:21 utc | 63
@ Norwegian | Feb 22 2025 19:18 utc | 61 with the claim Reuters is lying..thx
That may fit the pattern of my comment about Reuters above....Hmmmm
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 22 2025 19:24 utc | 64
Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 22 2025 19:18 utc | 61
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Duda and the Poles are claiming that they have paid for future use of Starlink in Ukraine so that there would be no interruption.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 22 2025 19:25 utc | 65
Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 22 2025 18:59 utc | 52
I recently saw a video of a Chinese cruise missile manufacturing line. They say it can put out up to 1000 missiles per day, with automated warehouses and full of automated CNC machines.
China is light years ahead of USA in missile design, production technology, quality control and output. In fact, all major US missile producers are completely reliant on Chinese suppliers for guided missile parts.
Posted by: unimperator | Feb 22 2025 19:27 utc | 66
Coupled with a new UN resolution apparently to be forwarded by US , which is said to be a war end with concessions to Russia, it would leave Ukraine under US auspice and let EU off its stupidity to some degree.
However, this might be to fail, in which case US just walks away, and Trump points out to US audience what a waste the previous admin was, that he tried to find some reimbursement, but Zelewinski rejected his usual diet and felt emboldened after seeing the EU menu ... so their problem now.
Ukraine would get its phone disconnected, except for Poland taking responsibility for it.
Posted by: Ornot | Feb 22 2025 19:28 utc | 67
@Tom_Q_Collins
This is in regard to your post (in a previous thread) about Zelensky “baiting” Trump. That might be an overstatement, but I would not count Zelensky out at this time. He is playing a dangerous game, but everything is dangerous for him at this time.
My initial impression was that Russia is the big winner from this. But I was not totally convinced.
THEN: I listened to a Q and A session at the G20 summit that Lavrov gave. My new feeling is that what Trump and Zelensky (and Europe) do is irrelevant at this time. Russia will win big.
While Trump and Zelensky and Western Europe fight battles over resources and military spending, Russia will watch carefully and slowly continue their itty bitty daily gains in Ukraine that add up to a lot over time. Russia has its eye on the prize: Crimea and the 4 Oblasts are Russian territory that must be taken, defended, and rebuilt. Nothing else matters. Lavrov does not speak to US and Western European audiences. He speaks to Russian and African and Middle Eastern and Asian audiences.
When he was asked about the US offering to remove sanctions on Russia and US corporations wanting to return to Russia – he viewed those issues more as western threats to Russian prosperity rather than as benefits given to Russia by the US.
Question: Why does Russia get Putin and Lavrov, while we get stupid creeps like Biden and Blinken and Trump and Rubio?
The idea of a huge Russian win out of this was cemented by a Russian You Tuber, the Russian equivalent of MAGA. I think of him as Mister Georgia (MRGA, Mr Ga, Make Russia Great Again). He talked about the increased trade between Russia and India, with a lot of attention paid to the infrastructure created to support this trade. So something something something happens in Europe, but the real Russian action is happening in Asia. And Africa. Consistent with Lavrov's discussions.
Posted by: Woke American | Feb 22 2025 19:29 utc | 68
frithguild | Feb 22 2025 19:00 utc | 53--
Thanks for your reply. The worry is there's little gold remaining in Fort Knox or the NY Fed vaults, while Russia & China have very large quantities and extract a large portion of what's mined globally. So, they get to make the rules. I suggest referring to China's Global Security Initiative and Russia's Eurasian Security proposal as well as to Russia's Greater Eurasian Partnership proposal, along with the three recent annual declarations made by Russia and China along with those made by BRICS and the SCO on the topic of not just security but what rules will Rule. Wang Yi's speech at the Munich Security Conference stated there'll be no Spheres of influence as that presumes hegemony by some over others, and that's verboten in the Rules. Lavrov has recently uttered words to a similar effect--nations large and small are to be politically equal as the UN Charter declares--that's the Rule. The Imperialist Monroe Doctrine has no standing in International Law. What the Global majority are demanding along with the two major powers China and Russia is that the UN Charter finally be obeyed by all UN members since being members obliges them to obey said Charter. And for the USA, the UN Charter has become part of the Constitution. Now, I read a cabal of Republicans have crafted a measure to force the US to leave the UN, which they've done without thinking of the consequences as usual. Their efforts are the result of an Empire in decline, whose unipolar moment ended in 2008 if not earlier.
Someone commented that it will take quite some time for those within the decaying empire to conform to the changed conditions. Currently, they're negotiating the stage known as Denial. Eventually, and admission needs to be made that the Empire lost its war against Russia and cannot wage a war against China, while its Neoliberal and Imperialist actions have bankrupted the nation. The Salad Days are well past and Hard Times is what the future holds.
But he would live.
Maybe.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 22 2025 18:27 utc | 40
I doubt he'd last a week.
He might last a bit longer in Tel Aviv.
Posted by: Mary | Feb 22 2025 19:37 utc | 70
Without Odessa what ever is left of ukraine is worthless. That gone turkey becomes more important as some sort of notional control of Russias shipping if needed in the future.
Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 22 2025 19:37 utc | 71
put a wench in americas plans on this by simply going to russia
Posted by: Justpassinby | Feb 22 2025 17:46 utc | 15
Indeed, much of the current problems come from the wenches the collective West employs to influence American plans, like Van der Leyen, Kallas and Baerbock. I wouldn't send any of them to Russia.
;-)
Posted by: Tom Paine | Feb 22 2025 19:39 utc | 72
Now Bessent is saying the 500bn will go towards Ukrainian reconstruction but with economic and management right of that in the hands of US.
There are quite lot of people elsewhere also wondering where the 500bn came from.
Posted by: Ornot | Feb 22 2025 19:41 utc | 73
Posted by: Ornot | Feb 22 2025 19:41 utc | 73
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The printing presses.
Stroke of the pen. Law of the Land. Kinda cool.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 22 2025 19:45 utc | 74
Fairly excellent thread from MoA on this one, imho. I'm cheered up mightily to see a few others, in here, who have their doubts about the current general direction of the USS USA ship of state.
Martin Jay offers this write-up on a grim outlook for Mr GreenT:
Trump’s tweet, in a nutshell, was “you’re fired”.
The schadenfreude from the fall of the Clown Prince of Armageddon is way too delicious, like chocolate ice-cream. Too much of it, and you'll surely get a tummy ache. So stop grinning, please!
I don't think the people of Ukraine deserve their continuing disaster. Elensky and his merry band of Ukronazis can burn in hell (along with the geosadist partnership of Biden & Trump). As to all the other Ukranians, they've suffered plenty enough already. With enough wisdom from suffering to last them several generations.
Posted by: Aleph_Null | Feb 22 2025 19:46 utc | 75
Posted by: Mary | Feb 22 2025 19:37 utc | 70
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Your viciousness is both terrifying and alluring.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 22 2025 19:47 utc | 76
Rats are fleeing or get ready to flee.
One ukronazi defence official stole 46 millions US$. He bought one house for 2.5 millions, a vineyard for 6.5 millions and 27 fields for 1 million.
Where?
In France. One of the most fervent supporter of the ukronazis from the left to the right.
Musk commented: it is only the tip of the iceberg. Go figure!
Indeed same things are happening in Switzerland and I guess in other countries fond of the ukronazis and other banderists.
Citizens of those countries must be very happy to see those new billionaires made by the gifts of their governments. While they certainly are rejoicing of the fall of their economies.
Posted by: Naive | Feb 22 2025 19:48 utc | 77
Posted by: Naive | Feb 22 2025 19:48 utc | 77
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Zelensky's money, like that of many Jewish politicians, is protected and hidden by the Rothschilds banking clan. They operate a substantial network of banks in France, which I believe is why he has been advised to go there.
Sort of an open secret kind of thing among the elites.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 22 2025 19:53 utc | 78
Thanks for the replies. As someone noted, Nuland has already confessed it was the Outlaw US Empire alone that did the deed--"Fuck the EU" we're running this show--is all that's required to imprison her, and all of Team Obama. Trump then refused to stop the carnage. Biden continued and escalated it. But then Russia defeated the Outlaw US Empire, NATO and its Ukrainian tool, and Trump is now suing for peace, which of course has all the war pigs squealing. My point is the world mustn't forget that justice remains to be administered to the Outlaw US Empire for all its current and past crimes, and that if it escapes again which is very possible that it must be ostracized; although because of its nukes, it must still be talked with and neutralized in that realm, along with Bioweapons. One can be a realist while also assigning optimals. If I can see the new Narrative and ascertain its goal, then it ought not to fool anyone else, although that does appear to be happening.
When do we see the rush of ukrainian refugees crossing the border into europe ?
Karma's a bitch some times aient it.
Good luck with the election in Germany tomorow,
Spoiler alert !
The far right won.
Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 22 2025 19:56 utc | 80
I doubt he'd last a week.
He might last a bit longer in Tel Aviv.
Posted by: Mary | Feb 22 2025 19:37 utc | 70
He's a dead man walking, which is why he's doing everything he can to extend the war. He's only ever cared about his own skin.
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Feb 22 2025 19:58 utc | 81
There's probably going to be a side order of lead with the sandwiches.
Posted by: jpc | Feb 22 2025 19:58 utc | 82
Posted by: unimperator | Feb 22 2025 19:27 utc | 66
And they are not afraid that those components could be deactivated? Typical of a country in decline.
Makes me think about Huawei and the yankee war against it, because it was not safe to use those smartphones.
Posted by: Naive | Feb 22 2025 20:00 utc | 83
[email protected] the bus, then backed it up for food measure....lots of Russian's safety and fate requires Russia to work with the Genocide Apartheid State to secure stollen Palestinian land for foreign squatters......what's that old saying about dogs and fleas.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 22 2025 20:00 utc | 84
Spoiler alert !
The far right won.
Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 22 2025 19:56 utc | 80
Cast your mind back to the shenanigans of the 2019 election.
Don't be surprised if the expectations don't match.
Posted by: jpc | Feb 22 2025 20:01 utc | 85
There seems to be some concern as one UK national wrote today, that the USA upcoming resolution at UNGA actually stops Russia and Putin on trial via ICJ and or ICC as a war criminal as any kind of Nuremberg trials that UK and EU seem to be planning and have got into their heads will succeed.
Without USA joining in with the UK EU own differently worded proposed Resolution due to be heard on Monday and actually specifying their alignment with that then no such trial proceedings against Russia can take place. So it kinda stymies UK and EU and further establishes a divide that Russia is being let off by the lack of solidarity so to speak, and that USA is more Russian friendly than UK and EU?
While Russia has submitted their White book of crimes committed by Ukraine, and the fact that Ukraine did try and fail at either ICC or ICJ to get Russia declared as a terrorist state, Russia might still be able to hold their own Nuremberg style trials for Ukraine Elite? Would USA object?
Posted by: Jo | Feb 22 2025 20:02 utc | 86
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 22 2025 19:53 utc | 78
Forgot to say that the stolen money was meant for buying mortars. So much for the war effort.
Posted by: Naive | Feb 22 2025 20:03 utc | 87
“Zelenski has only himself to blame for this.”
Cont. reading: Zelenski Has Yet To Eat The Shit Sandwich
Posted by b at 16:51 UTC | Comments (77)
B.S.
The “one” wholly to blame for all the deaths, theft, subverting, and corruption is walking away with plunder & impunity.
Again… another wiped out failed, extorted, corrupted, bankrupted nation state.
And the US, again, has scapegoat in hand, & smiles as it heads for the exits.
I don’t care what “part” Nazi Zelensky played, it was just a part. Just like genocide USReal, US sits over on a pond, while others take the blame.
And the world, the Russians, the Chinese, the Indians, the EU keeps letting the US waltz with impunity. Making Jess after mess, millions of deaths in the last 20 years, and no one says or does a thing about except “let my bank call your bank”…
Sure… let’s blame and focus on “Zelensky”… now
Or the “f**k the EU” and blame the EU and drop the whole crappy thing on them now.
Only another “Atlantis” sinking of the entire U.S. continent would be an adequate recompense for the World, with UK in tow of course.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Feb 22 2025 20:08 utc | 88
This is pure neo-colonialism, like in the old days when US Marines would take over the customs houses of some Caribbean country such as the Dominican Republic to enforce the payments to US bankers. Trump is really ripping the liberal face off the US Empire and showing us its great ugliness. The best thing Trump could do to help Make America Go Away,
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Feb 22 2025 20:10 utc | 89
Off topic but it looks like Pope Francis is on the critical list.
Posted by: Waldorf | Feb 22 2025 20:11 utc | 90
Bit of twisted thinking from me;
As the Russians continue to advance, the $500 billion that Trump is demanding cannot be "taken" from Ukraine physically, except as profits from mining or as some immaterial (phantom) finance.
But what about the reconstruction of Ukraine when Russia wins? This may be in the trillions. Will it matter who pays as long as the "owners" (to be the US??) get compensated AND their assets rebuilt ? In the eventuality that the EU is the sucker who pays, then US could be in line for payments from assets that are still viable, AND their reconstruction if damaged, AND profiting from being "awarded" any future contracts to be made for that reconstruction? (ie US companies profit three ways ?). At the end they could still "own" theoretically the assets themselves.
Don't know what the Russians might think about this, except that the bill for reconstruction will be huge and some form of external finance or help might be sold to them as a good idea?
Meanwhile, another portion of turd-burger get served to the Ukrainian press-gang commissioners:
In Odessa, a man shot at a military man of the [TCC]https://regionews.ua/ukr/news/odesskaya/1740235141-v-odesi-cholovik-vistreliv-u-viyskovosluzhbovtsya-ttsk (via translation add-on with [edits].)In Odessa, police detained a man who caused injuries to a serviceman
This was reported by the police of the Odessa region, reports RegioNews .
The incident occurred on Saturday, February 22, on the street Italian Boulevard.
A 28-year-old resident of the Berezovsky district started a conflict with military personnel of the [TCC-SC] during a document check.
The man sprayed tear gas in the face of one of the soldiers and fired several shots in his direction from a weapon, previously, traumatic action, after which he disappeared.
The serviceman was hospitalized.
The police detained the offender and handed him over to the investigators of the Security Service of Ukraine.
Recall that recently in Ukraine, cases of attacks on employees of [TCC]s have become more frequent.
So, in the city of Zhovkva, Lviv region, men attacked a [TCC] employee who accompanied them to undergo a medical examination
Recently, two residents of Bukovina attacked the military with axes.
Earlier, Chernihiv police detained a 43-year-old man who sprayed pepper spray in the face of a TCK serviceman.
It was also reported that since the beginning of 2025 , there have already been 9 terrorist attacks aimed at the [TCC] and the police. Several people were killed and many were injured.
Now, if President Overdue’s popularity really stood at 57% then he should no fear about holding elections; after all, he’s way ahead of the ratings for Herr Scholz and M’sieur Macron, among others...
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Feb 22 2025 20:16 utc | 92
Trubind1 @ 88
I like the cut of ya jib Trubind1.
Can we add the izzies.
Kudos.
Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 22 2025 20:17 utc | 93
Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 22 2025 20:16 utc | 91
If the US thinks it is going to get any compensation, let alone reconstruction contracts, it will need to prepare itself to accept payment in rubles...
That could be a “high-fibre” sandwich?...
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Feb 22 2025 20:27 utc | 94
Posted by: Stonebird | Feb 22 2025 20:16 utc | 91
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Trump is not a big player when it comes to financialization.
He had Mnuchin in his first term and now Scott Bessent for that.
The US is likely to start financializing its assets, which is what the mineral rights would become.
This is late stage Empire where the US will have to start breaking up and burning furniture to heat the "home" because they have already (metaphorically) deforested the land (de-industrialized domestically an de-dollarized internationally)
I don't know how many others besides karlof1 and I noticed that the Russians sent the head of their Sovereign Wealth Fund to Riyadh to meet with the Americans.
That is an economic move on the Russians' part and very clever to know what Trump needs before negotiations had begun in earnest.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 22 2025 20:28 utc | 95
Now, if President Overdue’s popularity really stood at 57% then he should no fear about holding elections; after all, he’s way ahead of the ratings for Herr Scholz and M’sieur Macron, among others...
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Feb 22 2025 20:16 utc | 92
Yeah, didn't I hear that was a poll run by a USAID outfit run by a friend of Z's?
Posted by: TJandTheBear | Feb 22 2025 20:28 utc | 96
Via Tass
WASHINGTON, February 22. /TASS/. The US administration has demanded that Kiev withdraw its draft resolution to the UN General Assembly condemning Russia for its special military operation and the Ukrainian side refused, the Washington Post reported.
According to the newspaper’s sources, "the Trump administration has asked Ukraine to withdraw an annual resolution condemning" Russia’s special military operation, "and wants to replace it with a toned-down US statement that was perceived as being close to pro-Russian in Kiev."
The newspaper stressed that the "suggestion stunned Kiev, which refused to withdraw its resolution." It is expected that the Ukrainian side will submit it on Monday.
Posted by: Jo | Feb 22 2025 20:30 utc | 97
LoveDonbass | Feb 22 2025 19:17 utc | 60
"Trump may be interested in punishing people like Cookies Nuland but that sets a horrible precedent of accountability for the Empire."
If Trump wants revenge on his domestic political enemies he'll go after them in the same ticky-tack lawfare way they went after him. He won't use Hague-type stuff.
Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Feb 22 2025 20:35 utc | 98
I expect the "Trump is a Russian agent" shtick will be revived, if it hasn't been already...
Posted by: Waldorf | Feb 22 2025 20:35 utc | 99
On the general topic of sh¡tty sandwiches, I gather Subway are one of the US corporations hoping to re-enter the Russian market...
Posted by: Jeremy Rhymings-Lang | Feb 22 2025 20:37 utc | 100
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Zielinski is a war criminal. Where ever he goes will be a tell on who has been supporting the little bastard. He's a liability regardless of where he lands.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 22 2025 17:02 utc | 1