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February 18, 2025
Where Trump’s Punishment Of Europe Should Lead To

On February 28 2022, five days after the operation to disarm Ukraine had started, I offered a prediction where it might lead to:

The U.S. and its proxies in the EU and elsewhere have put up very harsh sanctions on Russia to damage its economy.

The final intent of this economic war is regime change in Russia.

The likely consequence will be regime change in many other countries.

All energy consumption in the U.S. and EU will now come at a premium price. This will push the EU and the U.S. into a recession. As Russia will increase the prices for exports of goods in which it has market power – gas, oil, wheat, potassium, titanium, aluminum, palladium, neon etc – the rise in inflation all around the world will become significant.

The shunning of economic relations with Russia and China means that Germany and its newbie chancellor Olaf Scholz have fallen for the U.S. scheme of creating a new Cold War. Germany's economy will now become one of its victims.

On February 4 Russia and China declared a multipolar world in which they are two partnering poles that will counter the American one. Russia's move into the Ukraine is a demonstration of that.

The Europeans should have acknowledged that instead of helping the U.S. to keep up its self-image of a unipolar power.

It will take some time for the new economic realities to settle in. They will likely change the current view of Europe's real strategic interests.

Trump's re-election was the most important regime change caused by the war in Ukraine. On Sunday there will be elections in Germany. Following three years of a shrinking German economy they will lead to another regime change. Many are still to follow.

What I could not predict at that time was that Trump's punishment of Europe would become an accelerator of the process.

Mark Ames @MarkAmesExiled – 15:30 UTC · Feb 18, 2025

The entire US/European media & political establishment are telling themselves (and us, repeatedly) that Trump "is being played by Putin" re: Ukraine. Because they cannot let themselves contemplate the other possibility: that Team Trump is deliberately punishing Ukraine & Europe.

I am not sure who is still claiming that Trump is 'being played by Putin'. Hasn't that play finished? But I am sure about the 'deliberately punishing' part.

Why would Trump want to punish Ukraine and Europe? Because they helped the Democrats and the Deep State to sabotage his first presidency.

Scott Ritter's wide ranging piece on the Munich Security Conference does well in explaining this:

[Trump's] victory in the 2016 presidential election sent a shockwave through the establishment, which spent the next four years undermining the Trump Revolution from within and without.

And the next four years, under the auspices of its poster child, Joe Biden, the establishment used every tool in the establishment bag of dirty tricks, (including politically motivated prosecutions on multiple fronts and, possibly, assassination), to prevent a Trump resurrection.

In Munich we see the classic adaptation of the OODA-loop by Trump to destroy his NATO and EU enemies.

Now, at this juncture, some might ask, “Wait a minute. How did NATO and the EU become the enemy of Donald Trump?”

The answer is quite clear — because they are an extension of the very establishment elites Trump has declared war on in America today.

These are the European elites who conspired against Trump during his first term, who pined for former President Barack Obama while delaying enacting Trump-mandated reforms in the hope that the American electoral cycle would purge Trump from the American political stage.

These are the people and institutions that doubled down on American warmongering, allowing themselves to sucked into a Ukraine trap that was designed to destroy Russia for America’s exclusive benefit, destroying Europe in the process.

The Europeans, ever the compliant minions, were too blinded by their willingness to serve to see that they were as much the sacrificial lambs as was Ukraine.

And, when it looked as if Trump was going to emerge victorious, it was the Europeans — in NATO and the EU — who conspired with the Biden administration to “Trump proof” policies in hopes that they could, once again, simply ride out four years of Trumpism while the U.S. establishment contained and undermined Trump from within.

But Trump had learned his lesson.

The revolution began on Day One by destroying the [U.S.] establishment Europe was counting on to contain Trump.

And then Trump turned his attention to Europe.

Keep in mind that in the world of Donald Trump, the Europeans — especially their twin institutions, NATO and the EU — are not allies, but enemies.

Here is what Patrick Armstrong (Welcome back, Pat!) is chipping in:

What have we learned? Well, something that Moscow learned a long time ago: Washington is not reliable (the complicated Russia word is недоговороспособны which essentially means that you can’t make an agreement with it and even if you do, it won’t keep it). In a word, Washington caused the Ukraine disaster and, now that it’s gone irredeemably bad, is walking away from it and leaving it to Europe.

In the simplest, bluntest and most brutal terms the fact that has just hit it in the face is that USA is over there and Russia is here. The USA can make a mess anywhere and walk away at any time; remember Vietnam? Afghanistan? Well now it’s you.

So Europe, there’re four things you’d better do immediately: 1) figure out what your real interests are; 2) get yourself into a position to defend them; 3) make your peace with Moscow. (A European master of realpolitik told you years ago “The secret of politics? Make a good treaty with Russia“.) And fourth, read and meditate on the joint Russia-Chinese statement of three years ago. Why? Because that’s the future.

The joint Russia-Chinese statement Patrick mentions is the same one I had pointed to three years ago.

Seeing Europe's dilemma China's Foreign Minister Wang Yi is keeping that door open. In his MSC statement he offered to help:

With a five-percent GDP growth last year, China contributed to nearly 30 percent of the world economic growth. It has served as an important engine for global economic growth, and shared with the world the benefit of its supersized market. China is willing to synergize high-quality Belt and Road cooperation with the European Union’s Global Gateway strategy, so as to empower each other and empower the entire world.

Friends,

China has always seen in Europe an important pole in the multipolar world. The two sides are partners, not rivals. This year marks the 50th anniversary of China-EU diplomatic relations. Taking this opportunity, China is willing to work with the European side to deepen strategic communication and mutually beneficial cooperation, and steer the world to a bright future of peace, security, prosperity and progress.

As Trump will continue his war against Europe's bureaucracy it may only take a few months until we will see regime change in Brussels.

It could be the start of the long delayed move of Europe towards China.

Comments

Posted by: Paco | Feb 19 2025 7:06 utc | 199
Bingo.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 19 2025 7:13 utc | 201

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Feb 19 2025 6:08 utc | 197
“Martin Luther was enthusiastically in favour of the jews.”
He was hoping they would convert to a reformed Christian faith.
“He later thought or claimed that a jew had tried to poison him and changed his mind about them.”
He changed his mind when it became obvious that his plan was not working out.
“But Luther was a stooge of the oligarchy centered in Venice and during Luthers life that oligarchy happened to be transplanted to England.”
Pure fantasy.

Posted by: Jan Sobieski | Feb 19 2025 7:16 utc | 202

So it is disingenious to just simplify like you and say the europeans tried to wipe each other off the map. It took a number of assassinations to bring it about. Presumably all directed by British intel. Both in Europe, Russia and in the US
Posted by: petergrfstrm | Feb 19 2025 5:45 utc | 194
Ah, but peter, it seems it is you who is trying to simplify it.
Do you really think the root of all evil can be traced to Britain alone?
It’s specifically because I realised what an oversimplification this would be that I laid the blame on the entire European civilization.

Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 19 2025 7:16 utc | 203

Posted by: Zet | Feb 19 2025 3:27 utc | 182
I honestly don’t think 3/4 of the commentariat here understands this. It’s baffling.
Posted by: Tom_Q_Collins | Feb 19 2025 6:02 utc | 196

99% of Russians do. And that is what matters.

Posted by: Rutte | Feb 19 2025 7:28 utc | 204

That right there is the real europian problem and its a big big one.
Their is no effective opposition, you can vote center right, right, far right, exterme right. Or of course not vote.
How did that happen ? Who did that ?
Answer…. the right. and the jews.
Same as in america.
Not a reply to anyone.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 19 2025 7:37 utc | 205

This isn’t “regime change”. It’s not even a “change of plans”. It’s propaganda to save face for a loss that might otherwise rekindle the “Vietnam Syndrome” loss of confidence.
In the Western press for the past several years and ongoing, warmongers openly speak about ending their anti-Russian project in Ukraine so that they can focus on their anti-China project in the Pacific. This is the change those people telegraphed.
They’re scapegoating their Europeons to save their own face and to possibly goad them into buying more weapons and body bags. It’s perversely funny. But, it’s not regime change.

Posted by: I forgot | Feb 19 2025 7:45 utc | 206

To add to my above…..
Now compare that to what happened in ukraine over the last 10 years….
Yes you get it….
The right and the jews.
No champagne yet guys.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 19 2025 7:48 utc | 207

@Zet | Feb 19 2025 3:27 utc | 182

How do you make Europe commit to a military budget of a trillion $+? Easy: frighten them by threatening to take their security away from them.

European countries does not have any security as long as the US behaves as it does. You are confirming the crude mafia boss tactics employed.
You cannot frighten me with taking away something I do not have.

So no more NATO for you if you don’t pay enough…

Thank you. Don’t forget to shut the door behind you.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 19 2025 7:50 utc | 208

@juliania | Feb 19 2025 4:38 utc | 188

I will add on this that we have seen Putin comment at various times that he prefers to deal with the individual states of Europe, rather than with the controllers in Brussels. Vance and the others are simply following in Putin’s tracks.
Happy to hear if that makes sense to anyone — my head will be clearer tomorrow.

Indeed Putin has said so, clearly EU is illegitimate. I hope you are correct about Vance’s intentions, it would make sense but it doesn’t mean it is correct.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 19 2025 7:55 utc | 209

Published: October 17, 2011 9.36pm CEST

The most powerful companies you’ve never heard of: EADS
Welcome to “The most powerful companies you’ve never heard of” – an ongoing series from The Conversation that sheds light on big companies with low profiles. Today, Monash University’s Remy Davison examines European aircraft and weapons manufacturer EADS.
You may have never heard of the European Aeronautic Defence and Space Company (EADS), but it is likely that you have travelled on an aircraft manufactured by its high-profile subsidiary, Airbus.

But civil aviation isn’t EADS’s only business.
The company, headquartered in the Dutch city of Leiden, is listed simultaneously on six European stock exchanges, including the London, Paris, Frankfurt and Madrid bourses.
EADS is also seriously cashed-up: as of last month, it had $US16 billion in cash.
It is also perhaps the only truly transnational, integrated firm in the European Union. It draws its engineering talent and management from throughout Europe, and employs well over 100,000 workers.
Less well known are EADS’s other major products: weapons.
With almost $US16 billion in sales in 2009, it is one of the world’s largest armaments manufacturers. Its Dornier aircraft and Euromissile subsidiaries account for a considerable proportion of its anual revenue of $US50 billion.
A merger deal in 2003 saw Euromissile come under the control of trans-European weapons manufacturer MBDA, which used to be known as Messerschmitt-Bölkow-Blohm. Yes, that’s the same Messerschmitt that lit up London’s skies during the Blitz.
Among other things, MBDA builds guided missile systems and state-of-the-art anti-tank missiles.
MBDA is 37.5% owned by EADS, with BAe Systems – better-known as British Aerospace – taking another 37.5%.
Italy’s partly state-owned Finmeccanica, a major aerospace and defence conglomerate, controls the remaining 25%.
Ownership obscured
Who controls EADS? Well, it’s complicated.
Most of EADS’s stock is not publicly listed on financial markets. Instead there is a “gentlemen’s agreement” that sees the company rest firmly under the control of two Franco-German conglomerates.
SOGEADE, a holding company that is majority-controlled by the French government and media firm Lagardère, has 22.5% of EADS, while German giant Daimler holds 22.5%.
in full ==> https://theconversation.com/the-most-powerful-companies-youve-never-heard-of-eads-3192

So who are the shadowmen behind EADS.
Consider this

French billionaires said to eye truce in battle for Qatar-backed Lagardere
. Qatar’s sovereign fund holds 13 percent of media group
. Saga transfixes top political circles in France

April 25, 2021 13:30
PARIS: Two of France’s richest businessmen are close to a deal over media and publishing company Lagardere that would hit pause on their attempts to cherry-pick its assets for several years, three sources close to the discussions said on Sunday.
Vincent Bollore, the top shareholder in Lagardere via his Vivendi group, and luxury goods tycoon Bernard Arnault, also a Lagardere investor, have been at the center of a tussle over the firm and its influential media outlets for months.
The saga has transfixed top political circles in France a year ahead of a presidential election, with some in President Emmanuel Macron’s camp fearing that Bollore could seize assets like Lagardere’s Europe 1 radio and build up a powerful ring-wing outlet that would go against his campaign.
continues ==> https://www.arabnews.com/node/1849091/business-economy

So there is a bit of backstory that isn’t being reported on Macron’s emergency meetings in France.
Europe’s dynastic elite is a small old-money club that doesn’t like to be talked about.

Posted by: too scents | Feb 19 2025 8:11 utc | 210

EU agrees new Russia sanctions package
https://www.ft.com/content/8735a325-2071-410a-9372-3362008965da

Posted by: Apollyon | Feb 19 2025 8:25 utc | 211

OTish

China cuts holdings of US Treasury bonds to $759 billion in December 2024
Feb 19, 2025 01:15 PM
China’s holdings of US Treasury bonds fell to $759 billion in December, according to data released by the US Treasury Department on Tuesday (US time). It marked a ninth month of declines in China’s holdings of US government debt in 2024, according to the data.
During the last month of 2024, the three largest foreign holders of the US government debt – Japan, China and the UK – all reduced their holdings, the data showed.
A Chinese financial sector analyst said that China has been diversifying its foreign exchange reserve assets in recent years as part of routine operations, increasing its purchases of assets such as gold.
As a result, foreign holdings of US Treasuries fell in December to $8.513 trillion from $8.633 trillion in November, according to Reuters. Holdings had reached $8.679 trillion in September of 2024.
Japan, which remains the largest foreign holder of US government debt, reduced its holdings by $27.3 billion in December, bringing its total to $1.060 trillion, data from the US Treasury Department showed.
China’s holdings of US Treasury bonds in December dropped by $9.6 billion to $759 billion, from $768.6 billion seen in November.
For all the months of 2024, nine months saw a month-on-month drop in China’s holdings of US Treasury securities, while three months recorded increases, data from the Treasury Department showed.
China’s holdings of US Treasury bonds have been below the $1 trillion mark since April 2022, following a gradual downward trend, according to domestic news portal thepaper.cn.
According to data released by the State Administration of Foreign Exchange (SAFE) on February 7, China’s foreign exchange reserves totaled $3.209 trillion at the end of January, marking a $6.7 billion increase from December’s total.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202502/1328700.shtml

Drop Ukraine and Europe. Pivot to China.

Posted by: too scents | Feb 19 2025 8:34 utc | 212

It is not about punishing. Europe has used the US, taking advantage of a weak president, to drag them into a war with Russia. Trump has realised that, will end this and wants his money back. So you could say that both Russia and the US are victims of the ‘dirty politics’ of Europe. NATO has always been a trap for the US as it allowed the Europeans to spend less on their military.
The whatever ideology that got hold in the US and resulted, in things like DEI, etc.. and which Trump is now fighting, where did that ideology originally came from? That ideology is very much intrenched with the elites in Europe. Thus US will only be save from it in the long run if they can eradicate it in Europe.
One thing this can result in is that Europe will militarise, something a particular elite has been hoping for for decades. The fascist policies that became visible during the covid regime are an indication that there is a possibility that this will end up very badly.

Posted by: hubert | Feb 19 2025 8:36 utc | 213

and wants his money back.
Posted by: hubert | Feb 19 2025 8:36 utc | 213

LOL. No refunds.

Posted by: too scents | Feb 19 2025 8:40 utc | 214

@Arch Bungle | Feb 19 2025 7:16 utc | 20
I didnt oversimplify a single thing
Sergei Witte ,Stolypin, several Russian Tsars
and why not mentioning Rasputin.
Assassinations like that of Walter Ratenau
associated with the lawyer of Houston Chamberlain meant the end of constructive Soviet German collaboration, though they did collaborate on military practise for the germans until the 1930s.
Assassinations of a number of US presidents.
All known to be critical of Britain aims.
Britain was the continuation of Venice and Babylon and excepting the early decades, the British also got their ways with the US siding with the slave owners and disliking using a strong national economy for internal development.
The early US didnt mind commonly owned resources, while those allied with the British wanted to privatise everything and weakening the government.
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An early exponent of internal development was Alexander Hamilton. He was killed in a duel with Aaron Burr who was another stooge of the British.
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Ignorant americans are abundant and many are mistaken about their national banks. Lots of lies about how they operated.
One argument raised to demonize Hamilton is that he, at an early age, learned about banking from a british individual.
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Americans are brainwashed not to see that the resistance against the national banks was all about saving the interests of slave owners!
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Anglosaxons and those who are influenced by them dominate the debate but unfortunately they are usually ignorant and are repeating fake history.
The blind are leading the blind.
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It is depressing to notice how people dont remember that the US has created EUs absurd establishment and the absurd opinions held by many europeans and then admire Vance as a truth teller without complaining about his omission of the huge culpability of his side.
I mention it as an example of the ignorance of the majority.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Feb 19 2025 8:58 utc | 215

Posted by: too scents | Feb 19 2025 8:34 utc | 212
>>>
The People’s Republic of China expectes to reach no more than 1/2 trillion toxic $$$ of holdings before the end of 2026. Europe is pivoting to the Russian Federation and with that comes the People’s Republic of China. The $$$ is no longer relevant and Trump knows it.

Posted by: pepe | Feb 19 2025 9:11 utc | 216

Posted by: hubert | Feb 19 2025 8:36 utc | 213
>>>
Wrong assessment. The war against the Russian Federation has been in the cards by the yanks since the fall of the Berlin Wall.

Posted by: pepe | Feb 19 2025 9:13 utc | 217

@ peter with not enough vowels
> Americans are brainwashed not to see that the resistance against the national banks was all about saving the interests of slave owners!
Half-brainwashed here. Elaborate, please.

Posted by: I forgot | Feb 19 2025 9:24 utc | 218

Frankly, I’m somewhat perplexed that Russia’s negotiating with part of the criminal element that initiated and abetted the war–Rubio and Trump. So, how will Russia attain justice for all those killed, maimed and displaced, or will the result be similar to WW2’s end when so many Nazis were able to avoid justice thanks to the West’s actions–not just escaping to the Western Hemisphere but having their sentences commuted?
Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 18 2025 18:55 utc | 44
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May I suggest good sir, that there are two ideological and practical levels of justice when ot comes to war crimes: Those that shoot, and those who plan and command the shooting. The first can be captured, trialed and jailed. The latter, these days, seem to have a sort of diplomatic immunuty … eg Kissinger, Cheney, Rumsfeld, etc!
I suggest that those pragmatic Russians will USE (ie, leverage, manipulate around a table) the higher-ups to deepen their wins and attain a longer term political, strategic justice. What point in trying and jailing Biden, Blinken et al when their public and national humiliation and disgraced place in history will hurt more than a good hanging!
Mind you, it’s quite possible that Trump and the US justice system might start revenge prosecutions against Biden’s old team. Let’s face it, Russia can’t touch them. And also, let’s face it, many white collar war criminals get off scott-free.

Posted by: Jim Davidson | Feb 19 2025 9:29 utc | 219

🇪🇺EU countries are concerned that the Russian Federation could secure the withdrawal of US troops from Europe during negotiations with the United States, reports the FT.
We are talking about the possible withdrawal of some 20,000 US troops sent by Biden to Poland, Romania, Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia in 2022.

https://t.me/ukraine_watch/37372
Here, “EU countries” actually refers to EU Quislings.
To prove US cincerety in negotiations with Russia, a modest start is to withdraw those 20000 immediately.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 19 2025 9:29 utc | 220

Germany has a ‘democratic’ election on Sunday,
The right wing wins ha ha ha.
Think about that for a momment.
Congratulations, what were the odds at the betting shop.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 19 2025 9:30 utc | 221

For 3 years of western media reporting we never hered a single ukrainian Putin supporter interviewed and able to give an honest opinion freely !
Why do we think that was.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 19 2025 9:39 utc | 222

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 19 2025 9:29 utc | 220
>>>
Mr. Keir Starmer wants some of those in Ukraine as ‘peacekeepers?’ and Trump has no objection to it either. The Russian Federation is keeping a closer look at it.

Posted by: pepe | Feb 19 2025 9:41 utc | 223

Why do we think that was.
Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 19 2025 9:39 utc | 222

It was because of Press Freedoms


Council of the EU
Press release
17 May 2024 14:10

Russia’s war of aggression against Ukraine: Council bans broadcasting activities in the European Union of four more Russia-associated media outlets

The Council today decided to suspend the broadcasting activities in the European Union of four additional media outlets, which spread and support the Russian propaganda and war of aggression against Ukraine: Voice of Europe, RIA Novosti, Izvestia and Rossiyskaya Gazeta.
These media outlets are under the permanent direct or indirect control of the leadership of the Russian Federation, and have been essential and instrumental in bringing forward and supporting Russia’s war of aggression against Ukraine, and for the destabilisation of its neighbouring countries.
https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2024/05/17/russia-s-war-of-aggression-against-ukraine-council-bans-broadcasting-activities-in-the-european-union-of-four-more-russia-associated-media-outlets/

With this action the European Council incited other “independent” actors to implement further more broad-reaching blacklisting.

Posted by: too scents | Feb 19 2025 9:58 utc | 224

I predict a full on ‘world war three’ between Euroupe and Russia, citys we know and love reduced to bomb sites. Our working class killed by the million, with trump/biden&co throwing more fuil on the fire, as they allways do.
No matter if your Russian or ukrainian or Europian or even american working class.
To them (the elite) the death rate is all a plus not a minus.
Zelinsky never seemed to mind as the death toll rose. Nore america europe or britain.
As trump said they had 3 years to sort this out.
Thats why.
The rich want to depopulate the poor.
They’v got AI were redudent, not needed.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 19 2025 10:02 utc | 225

Neither Meloni, nor Le Pen, or AfD (as different as they all are as parties) will change anything.
Someone today pointed out in the post before those 700bn Euros hinted at by Baerbock.
That was no slip of tongue.
That was feudalistic suprematism of the kind Baerbock voiced 2 or 3 years ago alredy (“we do not care what out voters want”). To admit this 700bn plan 10 days before the election shows you they fear nobody. And it shows you neither do they regard AfD as a potential adversary on par.
Nope. AfD leadership knows about this plan. And CDU and AfD alignement happened on agreeing to some of these EU-plans.
Just because Weidel now says, tanks not for Ukraine but for Germany only – that doesn´t mean those tanks won´t be driving across Ukraine again in 4,6,8 or 10 years. May be long after Weidel is gone. Nobody will remember or care about what she said back now.
Harris and Trump might have been blue vs. red both in their veins the blod running is red.
p.s. I´ve always said only BSW with 40+% would change Germany for real. But before any such thing could happen they would assassinate a few people. If it were necessary. And since Germany is still too affluent in its entirety (at least 30-50% who support many of the rest on private and family basis) the people will only rise up if there is no cake left to eat and bread has become as expensive, which I guess will take another 30+years. Meaning: empty purses, ruined treasury. And by then it won´t matter what Europeans want anyhow.
Posted by: AG | Feb 18 2025 17:59 utc | 6
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It could be 700 trillion or qrillion. Who gives a shit? They don’t have the means to make money useful.
They, can’t retain a military never mind rearm one. Despite having three full years to try and their economies are stagnant it not moribund.
Ukraine for it’s part is f*cked! Demographics *alone* knock it out of any war-fighting, in 5-to-10 years.
Before you factor in what the likely outcome of the SMO will mean in Kiev. After Mad King Z “the Usurper” himself gets usurped.

Posted by: Urban Fox | Feb 19 2025 10:06 utc | 226

Still in the denial phase same as his european compatriots.

Zelensky hinted that he will not step down as president until Ukraine is accepted into the EU and NATO.
“I am ready to do anything for the sake of peace in Ukraine. Of course, Russia wants to get rid of me. Perhaps not physically, as they tried to do at the beginning of the war, but politically. I am a very inconvenient person for Putin. We know each other. If tomorrow Ukraine is accepted into the EU and NATO, I will no longer be needed. But until that happens, I will defend my country,” Zelensky said in an interview with ARD.

Grab your popcorn for the jewish oligarch infighting.

Zelensky lost the war and is turning Ukraine into North Korea – Poroshenko

https://t.me/boris_rozhin/155052
One should be surprised if this turns into another Syria with Zelensky fleeing on a plane to London. It shouldn’t be impossible if the barrier nazi troops are taken out.

Posted by: 5thcolumn | Feb 19 2025 10:08 utc | 227

Too Scents @ 224
Thanks for your imput.
In britain you still cant get RT.
Respect.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 19 2025 10:10 utc | 228

The rich want to depopulate the poor.
Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 19 2025 10:02 utc | 225

Elimination of the most productive class is not intentional. Rather, it is a consequence of an internecine battle between factions of the ruling class as they compete for growth in a world of fixed resources. The working class is simply consumed. To exhaustion. As in Ukraine.

Posted by: too scents | Feb 19 2025 10:11 utc | 229

With all due respect,

Why would Trump want to punish Ukraine and Europe? Because they helped the Democrats and the Deep State to sabotage his first presidency.

No one sabotaged anything. The “democrats” and “republicans” coordinate this stupid theatre together. Right now it’s a gigantic heartwarming planetary circle jerk to make everyone love trump and elon (the clotfather and captain brainchip), with everyone joyfully participating in a big hugfest all the way from the democrats (by pulling out intentionally horrible candidates like “biden” and kamala), to davos and the rothchilds (moaning so believably about how Trump has destroyed the new world order), to of course all tv news and all “alternative” spook sites like infowars, to the hollywood “assassination attempts” that no one with a brain would believe.
“oh no but the democrats truly hate trump, there’s no way they are supporting him”
Yeah, the imbeciles that form 90-99% of any group, including MoA readers. Of course karens and gretas all around the world are genuinely enraged, and the european “leaders” are genuinely white with horror. But they never decided anything. Their masters didn’t tell them everything, and never cared about them as more than tools–what’s surprising about that?
So now that we have the trump and elon that we were so tactfully made to love through a decade-long global jackhammer PR campaign, it will be:
– Ok to kill Gazans and Ukrainians, because trump
– Ok to keep biolabs running and to not ask about organ trade or human trade, because nuland was so nicely transitioned into trump
– Ok to do all the klaus schwab things, because elon
– Ok to celebrate and cheer the talmudic destruction of Europe, which was the main goal all along.

Posted by: Jack M | Feb 19 2025 10:16 utc | 230

Too Scents @ 229
Maybe our two points arent mutialy exclusive.
Both are almost certain to be true true.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 19 2025 10:17 utc | 231

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Feb 19 2025 6:08 utc | 197
“Martin Luther was enthusiastically in favour of the jews.”
He was hoping they would convert to a reformed Christian faith.
“He later thought or claimed that a jew had tried to poison him and changed his mind about them.”
He changed his mind when it became obvious that his plan was not working out.
“But Luther was a stooge of the oligarchy centered in Venice and during Luthers life that oligarchy happened to be transplanted to England.”
Pure fantasy.
Posted by: Jan Sobieski | Feb 19 2025 7:16 utc | 202
What a well founded rebuttal. Martin Luther was one of an endless series of controlled opposition crypto jews. Links get scrubbed, so put “mileswmathis luther” into duckduckgo.

Posted by: Jack M | Feb 19 2025 10:20 utc | 232

RT
@RT_com
‘Looks like Putin has outmaneuvered everyone again’: Russian journalist tells GB News that the US is rebounding from a toxic breakup with Ukraine, with JD Vance’s Munich speech seemingly the final straw
See Video (1:07)
https://x.com/RT_com/status/1892113915682710005

Posted by: Menz | Feb 19 2025 10:21 utc | 233

Menz @ 233
Tried twice on that link and i get a retry tag on the page,
Creepy given our subject.
Much respect

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 19 2025 10:28 utc | 234

Tried twice on that link and i get a retry tag on the page,
Creepy given our subject.
Much respect
Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 19 2025 10:28 utc | 234
If you’re in EU like me, it might be because of EU’s freedom of speech:

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Posted by: 5thcolumn | Feb 19 2025 10:30 utc | 235

Lets remember america has a long history of..helping.. other countrys ! Iraq (twice) Libiya. Syria aganistan.
All left in rubble.
Is Europe next ? I dont know, but i hope people can see my concern.
If something seems to good to be true very often it ‘is’ to good to be true.
This is not a row, peace be with you all.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 19 2025 10:40 utc | 236

Why do so many ordinary Americans see Trump as a hero, a savior?
What do they expect?
Also, how can Russia trust a real estate agent?
Russia wants to trade with the US as if nothing had happened?

Posted by: vargas | Feb 19 2025 10:40 utc | 237

Typo… Afganistan

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 19 2025 10:41 utc | 238

Vargas @ 237
Becous Putin is clever than all of us put together, trust him he’s why you continue to live and breath today.
He’s……
Antifa yaaaay
Im gone.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 19 2025 10:46 utc | 239

Russia wants to trade with the US as if nothing had happened?
Posted by: vargas | Feb 19 2025 10:40 utc | 237

You have posed your question in a backwards manner.
In truth, “The US wants to trade with Russia as if nothing had happened”.
Just like memories, expectations vary.

Posted by: too scents | Feb 19 2025 10:46 utc | 240

Despite all the hysterics and trumpeting of Trump’s moves towards Europe/Russia, all I see is a change of tactics. It’s obvious that the kinetic war against Russia is being lost, and the financial war has also failed and has only strengthened Russia’s economy by, among other things, limiting the influence and ability of Russia’s 5th column (the oligarchs)to undermine their politics and domestic economy. To my eyes all I’m seeing is Trump telling Europe to STFU long enough to allow him to get on with talking to Russia; talks that are not meant to end the assault on Russia at all, but are merely to dangle the bait of the end of the financial war, so as to peel away the not-really-Russian-globalist-elite-5th-columnist-oligarchs from Putin’s political centre, thereby weakening Russia politically from within. I cannot see any of the charades going on now as signalling a current or near-term end to hostilities towards Russia, nor to the Western dream of breaking up and destroying Russia as an opposing power on the global stage. And as far as Ukraine is concerned, the West doesn’t really care, they were just the most willing useful idiots to use against Russia. When the Ukraine option for attacking Russia has been exhausted, the USA will look for and find another willing idiot to use, whether that be Georgia, Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan, Turkey, or even the EU. Just as war is politics by another means, these political talks are just war by another means. What can perhaps be said for the recent moves is it does appear that we may be returning to the norm whereby diplomats actually attempt diplomacy, and actually talk to each other rather than calling each other names from across the globe.

Posted by: rob | Feb 19 2025 10:56 utc | 241

@I forgot | Feb 19 2025 9:24 utc | 218
Good question
The idea with the national bank was too make the young republic prosperous and to make it rich enough to be able to put force behind reforms for infrastructure industrialisation and other reforms. The constitution was incompatible with slavery and the slave owners feared that Hamilton and the others would free the slaves.
(Incidentally the family of young Hamilton was associated with slavery and so were several of the founding fathers. But the constitution came later)
Therefore the slaveowners didnt not want the government to be strong and to have the necessary means to carry out reforms.
They wanted the state to be weak and oligarchs to be the beneficiaries. This is the dark legacy that the libertarians are still trying to achieve: To weaken the little peoples democratic representatives so the oligarchy becomes the real power.
They may be in denial about it and they may argue that if the state is weak the oligarchy would loose influence. That is a naive opinion to say the least.
If there is no strong state there is nothing to prevent the oligarchy to take its place and force whatever laws they like. We all know that condition is almost what we have now anyway with the only difference that western governments who benefit from looting the rest have the means for generous government handouts to pacify the majority.
The libertarians argue that Britain in some phase of the victorian era had a situation suited for libertarianism. That is rich. Britain under such conditions was the major engine for revolutions most everywhere.
Libertarians like the rest just dont know history.
This was Britains preferred system and as you know the west is dominated by it and has as far as they can tried to organise it everywhere. Great Reset
NWO Green Socialism (or actually fascism) etc
It’s all the work of british thinkertons.

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Feb 19 2025 11:10 utc | 242

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Feb 19 2025 8:58 utc | 215
Excellent historic and strategic analyses. Question,is Britain hiding its nefarious activities under the label of zionism so as to deflect the blame.

Posted by: Michael J | Feb 19 2025 11:15 utc | 243

Tried twice on that link and i get a retry tag on the page,
Creepy given our subject.
Much respect
Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 19 2025 10:28 utc | 234
Got ot here in the US, no problem.

Posted by: Mary | Feb 19 2025 11:16 utc | 244

https://t.me/belarusian_silovik/49703
Fresh statements from Zelensky have arrived:

The war cost Ukraine $320 billion, of which Ukrainians paid $120 billion, and the US and Europe paid another $200 billion;
Unfortunately, Trump lives in a space of fabricated information;
Within a week or two, we will ask all platforms to conduct a survey of trust in me, Trump, Tusk, Starmer, Erdogan. I will definitely publish these figures;
We have nothing to shoot down missiles with. At 5 am, the commander calls me and says: “Eight targets are approaching, and we have no air defense missiles.” There are no Patriot missiles near one of the Ukrainian cities;
I have started negotiations with European leaders, and I believe that they will be ready to finance the Armed Forces of Ukraine if the US does not.

There is only one conclusion: Zelensky and the EU will continue the war. Peace is still far away and I wrote about this several months ago, and some subscribers accused me of escalating the situation.

Posted by: 5thcolumn | Feb 19 2025 11:17 utc | 245

…Zelensky and the EU will continue the war. Peace is still far away…
Posted by: 5thcolumn | Feb 19 2025 11:17 utc | 245

For all of those who asks why hasn’t Russia removed Z yet.
This is why. For Russia Z is the gift that keeps on giving.

Posted by: Rutte | Feb 19 2025 11:24 utc | 246

There will be no “regime change” in Germany. In big cities, SPD, CDU and Greens are at >65% of the votes.
Russia hating Merz will be chancellor and if coalating with the Greens, Russia hating Habeck will stay vice chancellor.
SPD is also full of Russia hating guys, see Pistorius.
Our only hope is a President Vance.
Posted by: Ali | Feb 19 2025 7:12 utc | 200

You are right on the money with your views on where Germans are at. On the home front constantly ranting about Kampf gegen Rechts, fighting the right, while busily arming, training and funding actual neo-Nazis in Ukraine. Same sanctimonious dishonesty around Islam. Carrying on like pork chops about them ‘un-german’ Islamist migrants and their desire to bring in Sharia law, but no issue with jihadists ousting Assad, ushering in a hardcore Sharia regime in Syria. Germans, or dare I say Europeans as a whole, on their way to win the cognitive dissonance championships.
Talking about cognitive dissonance, “President Vance” with his freedom shtick also suffers from this infliction, or, and thats my guess, with typical American bluster pretends he and Trump care about the right to free speech, when their silence about pro-Palestinian journalists being intimidated and arrested, their wishing anti-Zionism campaigners be deported, people burning the flag be imprisoned, are dead giveaways their harping on about ‘freedom’ is mostly performative and designed to pander to their base.
Not unlike the MAGA mega donor and self-declared free speech warrior turned Captain Censorship.

[…] According to The Washington Post, which reviewed X’s report, the website acted on 71% of the legal requests it received to remove content during the first half of 2024. That’s up 20% from 2021 and more than the roughly 30% of requests it complied with in prior years.
Many of those requests came from a few countries, such as Turkey and South Korea, and were often successful in getting content removed or restricted.
Sixty-eight percent of cases requested by Turkey — which has strict censorship laws and is led by President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, who has asked Musk to build a Tesla (TSLA-0.91%) factory in his country — were complied with. X also acted on 73% of those requested by South Korea, 79% of those requested by Japan, and 80% by the European Union.
That’s in stark contrast to Musk’s public position as a self-described “free speech absolutist,” especially in light of his recent, high-profile feud with Brazil’s government, although the company’s response falls in line with X’s actions over the first six months of his ownership.
In April 2023, Rest of World reported the company had fully complied with 808 out of 971 government demands it received between October 2022 and April 2023. It had partially complied in 154 other cases and failed to report a specific response for at least nine cases in that timeframe; none were refused. Most of those orders came from Germany and Turkey. […]

Nobody with a genuine respect for freedom of speech would threaten judges for indicting genocidal mass murderers. The fact Trump & his entourage are gearing up to do exactly that is all one needs to know about the phonies making up this administration.

Posted by: Juan Moment | Feb 19 2025 11:25 utc | 247

Mary @ 244
Thanks Mary for trying. The UK is in a bubble, rubish in rubbish out. The public cant make educated opinions or desitions with that amount of repression. All bets are off.
And just to say i really love all your comments allways.xx
Now i really really am gone.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 19 2025 11:29 utc | 248

This is why. For Russia Z is the gift that keeps on giving.
Posted by: Rutte | Feb 19 2025 11:24 utc | 246
Giving even Odessa

Posted by: Michael J | Feb 19 2025 11:29 utc | 249

Dam i just cant get away…..
What just happened in Odessa and was it a false flag ?

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 19 2025 11:32 utc | 250

For all of those who asks why hasn’t Russia removed Z yet.
This is why. For Russia Z is the gift that keeps on giving.
Posted by: Rutte | Feb 19 2025 11:24 utc | 246
Both Zelensky and Syrsky are Russia’s greatest allies in the denazification of Ukraine. It is funny to see Zelensky bringing up again the story of Russia trying to take him out at the beginning of the SMO by “Chechens” (which in fact were rogue ukrainian criminals running around Kiev after the gun handouts to everyone), all the while there was a deal Putin made with the previous PM of Israel not to threaten Zelensky’s life.

Posted by: 5thcolumn | Feb 19 2025 11:33 utc | 251

What ever it was it was just on the bbc news just now so i guese the brits an zel boy done it.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 19 2025 11:35 utc | 252

DS map daily update:
https://deepstatemap.live/en#6/49.4324126/32.0581055
Strong day for the RFA, gaining 30.7 kmsq. This is in excess of the recent record month pace of 23/day (NOV).
Suspect this is an outlier. For one, there’s a cope conversion catchup in point “8”, rather than a true advance, and those are infrequent. Of course, we will see. If RFA can string together more 30+ days, it will help rehabilitate the month. If we are back to piddling gains, the one good day will just get diluted when combined into month average.
Specific gains S to N:
[Velyka Novasilka sector, showing continued daily advances after the loss of “the corner”]
1. W of VN, RFA captured fields around and part of Novasilka. This vector potentially heads towards Zhap oblast (although still in Donetsk now).
2. N of VN, small polygon entering further into Novoocheretuvate.
[Dachne pocket sector]
3. Captured small hamlet of Zelenivka (S of Ulakle), along with quite a few fields, along with a salient entering Kostiantynopil from the SE.
4. W side of Dachne (town captured), along with some fields to the W.
5. N side of Andriivka. RFA seems to be prioritizing taking the heights/forts that protect that town, rather than prioritizing heading S into pocket closing. Probably smart, to ensure Andriivka can be held. After this, expect mopping up of the remaining SW part of Andriivka, as well as moving towards Kostiantynopil from the N, to truly close the pocket.
[Pokrovsk sector]
6. On the SW flank, RFA took a small polygon in Pischane, erasing part of UFA gain from a few days ago. However, the town remains contested, with UFA occupying more of it. For now.
7. On the SE flank, three related changes near the interchange:
a. Very small polygon, taking by RFA, widening the thin salient towards the interchange.
b. UFA retook the interchange itself. Road is no longer physically cut.
c. RFA took fields NW of Barinivka
[Overall, more kmsq taken by the Russians, but probably strategically a small win for UFA, as the road is no longer cut. They also still hold nearby town of Vodiane Druhe, taken with a recent counterattack. Presumably both sides will continue to contest this area.]
[Not sure what to call this sector…usually pretty quiet, halfway from Toretsk to Chasiv Yar. I guess call it Andriivka sector, for now.]
8. RFA took large amount of fields W of Andriivka and Klischiivka. Looks like DS cope conversion catchup, as it was just a gray zone conversion–lines of UFA control did not change.

Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 19 2025 11:51 utc | 253

Trump said he is OK with EU sending peacekeepers to Ukraine, but no American peacekeepers will be sent. Guess he is looking at US body bag sales to EU.

Posted by: unimperator | Feb 19 2025 11:56 utc | 254

>> How did NATO and the EU become the enemy of Donald Trump.
Anybody remember the efforts of EU and NATO to “Trump-proof” support for Ukraine? By changing NATO’s Ukraine support structure, removing Americans from critical positions? By shipping vast amounts of weapons and ammo to Ukraine before the end of Biden’s term? By moving money into budget pots presumed to be untouchable by Trump?
How could this finickery possibly have upset Trump? Worse: how could anybody who has seen Trump in action for a while have assumed those bureaucratic tricks would stop Trump?

Posted by: Marvin | Feb 19 2025 12:00 utc | 255

Trump the Maga ‘peacenik‘ had hardly warmed his seat……
PACOM (.mil)
U.S., Japan, Australia Conduct Trilateral Naval Exercises in South China Sea
4 days ago
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Al Jazeera
US condemns ‘dangerous’ moves by Chinese navy helicopter in South China Sea
7 hours ago
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Reuters
China accuses Australia of deliberate provocation in South China Sea
China accused Australia on Friday of deliberately provoking it with a maritime patrol in the disputed South China Sea this week,…
.5 days ago
South China Mor
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West PH Sea: PH, US, Canada join military drills in EEZ
GMA Network
https://www.gmanetwork.com › topstories › nation › story
7 days ago — Parts of the South China Sea that fall within Philippine territory have been renamed by the government as West Philippine Sea to reinforce the country’s claim
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Canada Close to Visiting Forces Deal With Philippines
The Defense Post
https://thedefensepost.com › Asia Pacific
10 Feb 2025 — The Canadian navy has taken part in recent months in several patrols in the South China Sea with the US, Australia, the Philippines, and Japan to assert f
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U.S. warship sails through Taiwan Strait for first time since …
The Japan Times
https://www.japantimes.co.jp › asia-pacific › politics › u…
7 days ago — The U.S. Navy guided-missile destroyer USS Ralph Johnson conducts routine operations in the South China Sea last August. The vessel, along with
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CNA
First US Navy ships sail through Taiwan Strait since Trump inauguration
BEIJING: Two US Navy ships sailed through the sensitive Taiwan Strait this week in the first such mission since President Donald Trump took office last…
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DW
Canadian warship passing through Taiwan Strait irks China
The Taiwan Strait separates Taiwan from mainland China, and Beijing claims jurisdiction over the maritime territory. Earlier this month, two US vessels also…
.2 days ago
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Wed, Feb 19, 2025 page1
Safeguarding Taiwan in UK’s interest, MP says
SOVEREIGNTY: President William Lai thanked visiting British lawmakers for their support for Taiwan and for passing a motion clarifying UN Resolution 2758
By Sam Garcia / Staff writer, with CNA
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Posted by: denk | Feb 19 2025 12:08 utc | 256

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 19 2025 10:28 utc | 234
Perhaps RT is censored where you are??

Posted by: Menz | Feb 19 2025 12:13 utc | 257

I commented the same on Ukraine – The Beginning Of The End (Which Is Yet Far Away) as P Lancaster.

The US starts wars for their interests.
Europe has to support financially as a NATO extortion racket victim.
Then gets left with the mess and has to take care of another wave of refugees.

This is their MO, nothing new.
I would not particularly see it as “punishment”.
That is imagining things and attributing human characteristics to politics.
Neither is ‘punishing’ productive or beneficial, hurt feelings have no place in the political world.
Turning coats and breaking alliances (sometimes deceivingly called friendships, also not a political concept) out of opportunism or impotence is.
Europe has often been left to deal with the US calamities no matter who is president.
This one is more blunt and explicitely says it.
Possibly this might open a few fellow European’s eyes, especially since they left the ukraine turd on our doorstep.
And who knows, maybe they’ll start to see the light about turning away from them and towards the east.

Posted by: Ed Bernays | Feb 19 2025 12:25 utc | 258

@254
I just got up this morning and my first thoughts concerned the Ukies’ alleged counterattack at Pokrovsk. They’re claiming some success in that sector, supposedly blocking RU supply lines via skillful and high volume drone work, plus capturing a village. But I never know what to believe these days, given media’s lack of credibility (in reporting on this war, at least).
But the info in your post is definitely good news.

Posted by: GW | Feb 19 2025 12:27 utc | 259

Lex 160:

The average Trump voter disliked it [war in the Ukraine] because they were told to. If Trump decided or decides that he’s mad at Russia, 90% of his voters will want Putin dead.

Just curious here, but “told to” by whom? Certainly not the Mockingbird mass media as they have been doing the jingoist pro-war chant in unison without letup since before the conflict even went hot.
I’m getting a hard TDS brain damage vibe from your comment. Since it clearly wasn’t the scum from the presstitution industry who told Trump voters that war was bad, perhaps you are stupidly trying to imply that those voters decided war was bad because Trump said so, but that would be really retarded, wouldn’t it? Do they all have Truth Social accounts or something? Furthermore, how would a single voice override the deafening pro-war cacophony from the Establishment and its servile PMC? Is this where you pathetically suggest that Trump voters worship him as a deity? That being the only way you can wrap your tiny little flaccid mind around how the massive, uniform and coordinated hard-sell effort to drive those voters back into the herd failed so spectacularly? Only the influence of a deity could have defeated the all-hands-on-deck effort by the Establishment and its PMC lackeys to control those stupid “deplorables”, right?
Of course, such an assumption reveals a staggering arrogance: You people whose minds are destroyed with “Trump Derangement Syndrome” by mass media false narratives can somehow see truth clearly while the “deplorables” are all somehow bamboozled by a single god-like con man?
Something that you TDS people cannot allow yourselves to contemplate, but you should, is the possibility that the Trump supporters are seeing things relatively clearly, while it is you TDS people who are living in a false narrative and being cynically jerked around by remote control. Consider that it is the “deplorables” who are defying the mass media programming, while it is you TDS people who are driven to the verge of nervous breakdown, and no small number of you crossing that verge, by media-manufactured hysteria. You are the ones being led around by the nose, while the “deplorables” are the ones with some modicum of independent thought. Consider that the “deplorables” are free enough from the mass media’s cynical sensationalism to decide for themselves that even if Trump is lying about his intentions he is still the least bad choice for them to support. Isn’t it the “lesser of two evils” that you dembots wanted them to vote for anyway? The “deplorables” were just less remote-controlled by mass media than you TDS people, and thus could more accurately see which option represented the lesser evil.
In any case, Trump supporters do not worship him as a deity. That is your own baseless arrogance and mental weakness speaking. Rather, Trump supporters worship Trump the way they worship a great athlete, or more accurately, the way they worship a great pro wrestling star (since the promoters are as much part of the show in pro wrestling as the wrestlers themselves).

Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 19 2025 12:29 utc | 260

Strong day for the RFA, gaining 30.7 kmsq. This is in excess of the recent record month pace of 23/day (NOV).
Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 19 2025 11:51 utc | 253
and on a 1.200 casualties day
not half bad and means RF advances and there is nobody home

Posted by: Newbie | Feb 19 2025 12:41 utc | 261

You have posed your question in a backwards manner.
In truth, “The US wants to trade with Russia as if nothing had happened”.
Just like memories, expectations vary.
Posted by: too scents | Feb 19 2025 10:46 utc | 240
But why is Russa accepting that US wish to trade?
After so many insults and the dead.

Posted by: vargas | Feb 19 2025 12:43 utc | 262

But why is Russa accepting that US wish to trade?
Posted by: vargas | Feb 19 2025 12:43 utc | 262

Because the US is the supplicant.

Posted by: too scents | Feb 19 2025 12:47 utc | 263

Al Jazeera

‘You should have never started it’

: Trump suggests Ukraine to blame for war
10 hours ago

Posted by: denk | Feb 19 2025 12:57 utc | 264

Posted by: hubert | Feb 19 2025 8:36 utc | 213
Russia and the US are victims of the ‘dirty politics’ of Europe. NATO has always been a trap for the US as it allowed the Europeans to spend less on their military.
<=Yes it was European infiltration of the US STATE department, the USA congress and the USA President and British expertise in propaganda that allowed Europe to use the USA to fight both WWI and WWII.. both wars fought were over access to and ownership of oil and gas.. The City of London owned Israeli government and UK government are the most vicious group of people in the world. If the British send their armies to Ukraine they can expect their boys and girls to come home in coffins and they might need to prepare their cities and military establishments to receive made in Russia Gifts. Europe would be ill advised to increase its militaries, in spite of Trump's urgings. The agreements Russia and China are striving to make with Trump's USA will likely reduce by a lot the need for anyone to have a big military. One thing is clear every citizen in every nation state needs to be armed, just as is the case in USA governed America.. the right to keep and bear arms is a first amendment right.. but the right to keep and bear arms is also a human right. The nation states lack the authority to infringe human rights. Legislative power does not extend to infringing or violating human rights. It is this fact that makes all war illegal and citizen ownership of guns legal. One thing everyone in the world can help get done is to establish a legal barrier [a do not cross boundary] between the reach, authority and power of the nation state [the one you live in] and the authority of global humanity; which is for humans to keep, have, exercise, hold-sacred and defend human rights. government authority |barrier] Human rights.
A barrier of this type can go a long way toward preventing Genocides, regime changes, assassinations, and illegal acts by Oligarch owned officials operating under authority of armed governments to effect their evils on societies. It is this barrier that humans should organize to defend.

Posted by: snake | Feb 19 2025 13:09 utc | 265

WTF are the Canuck mucking in SCS anyway ?
Shoudnt they be at home prepping for yankee invasion ?

Posted by: denk | Feb 19 2025 13:15 utc | 266

As for the perfidious albion, no sooner than they signed 69 sweet deals with China when they went to TW to plead their allegiance to the separatist regime !

Posted by: denk | Feb 19 2025 13:39 utc | 267

As trump said they had 3 years to sort this out.
Thats why.
The rich want to depopulate the poor.
They’v got AI were redudent, not needed.
_____________________
Now you’ve hit upon something here and why, beyond the fever dreams of the board gurus, Trump & co. consider the Euros enemies.
Go dig up Elon Musk videos where he talks about the WEF and George Soros. He called Soros “evil” and a man “…who hates humanity”. These whackos completely control Euro elites. I remember when Climate Change was a joke in the US and only something the whackos in Europe were worried about. Obama and Biden brought it and much more to us. We rejected it the first time with Trump and the elites doubled down on it all with Biden. Trump and many normal Americans consider this problem every bit as dangerous as the NAZIS or the Soviets, maybe more, because it is fundamentally anti-human. So, yeah, they consider it entirely possible that some of these whack jobs in Europe actually want a depopulating war.
There is a drive to war that is beyond human understanding. I find any explanations that rely upon the drive for hegemony or domination by any nation fundamentally unsatisfying. There is more to it than that. So many nominally intelligent people acting in ways that are completely contrary to not only the well being of their nations and the world, but their own.

Posted by: CullenBaker | Feb 19 2025 13:48 utc | 268

CullenBaker @268: “So, yeah, they consider it entirely possible that some of these whack jobs in Europe actually want a depopulating war.”
Musk is quite outspoken about his concern that the crisis humanity actually faces is a looming population collapse. I have played with some population models and I think he might be right. I realize it sounds counter-intuitive, which is why the WEF types think the opposite is the problem: they are not good with math.

Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 19 2025 14:10 utc | 269

@b
Your analysis published in 2022 turned out to be very good. The political outer layer of the Western deep state was blind and out of control and they need to be replaced. Trump is currently cleaning up some institutions. How deep is he allowed to clean is another question. So far so good, but what’s next on Trump’s agenda?
Trump’s quest of MAGA reminds me of a story a Toronto homeless man once told me. A man inherited a house from his father and someone told him there was a treasure hidden under the house. So the man demolished the house and he found no treasure undefneath. And he was homeless. That’s how the quest for MAGA sounds to me from Trump’s rhetoric.
Another possibility is that the money behind the US deep state is about to leave Washington for better opportunities elsewnere. The high-tech sector the US is relying on is a very fragile and fluid sttucture: software flows like money and like the wind.

Posted by: Richard L | Feb 19 2025 14:10 utc | 270

Found this on telegram. Encapsulates the situation very well IMO:
“Riyadh Talks: The U.S. Learns to Bow to Reality — Russia Defines the New World Order
The unipolar era is dead. Washington just spent 4.5 hours in Riyadh learning a hard lesson: it no longer dictates terms to the world. The deep state’s mouthpieces can dress it up as “productive dialogue,” but the reality is brutal: Russia crushed the Western proxy war in Ukraine, and the U.S. now has to negotiate its own managed retreat.
It’s almost poetic. Washington, the self-proclaimed enforcer of the “rules-based order,” now sitting across from Lavrov and Ushakov, taking notes like a chastened student. This is Yalta 2.0, but this time it’s the U.S. being dictated to.
One of the key takeaways? “We couldn’t have imagined a better result,” Trump’s envoy Steve Witkoff admitted after the session. Translation? Washington had to swallow Russia’s terms just to keep the talks moving. The days of “isolating” Moscow are ancient history. Now the U.S. is agreeing to normalize relations, restore embassies, and appoint negotiators to work out Ukraine’s surrender terms.
And let’s be clear: Kiev was never at the table. While Zelensky throws tantrums from the sidelines, begging for relevance, Washington and Moscow have already accepted that he’s finished. His re-election chances are zero. His NATO dreams are dead. His future? Probably some exile villa funded by whatever’s left of the billions he siphoned off.
But the real conversation in Riyadh wasn’t about Ukraine. It was about what comes next. The Americans walked in pretending they still had leverage, but walked out knowing they now need to negotiate their place in the new multipolar reality. No more NATO expansion. No more economic terrorism through sanctions. No more delusions of forcing Russia into submission.
The empire is being forced to cut a deal. This is the deep state’s worst nightmare: Washington, once the global hegemon, now begging to “normalize” relations with the very country it tried to destroy. From “crippling Russia” to “respecting Russia’s interests” in less than two years.
This is what empire collapse looks like. For years, Washington dictated terms to the world. Now, it has to ask permission just to stay in the game. The Pentagon knows it lost the war in Ukraine. The next phase is about managing the American retreat from global hegemony, because the new world is already being built, and the U.S. is no longer in charge.
Washington walked into Riyadh pretending it still ran the world and walked out learning it now needs Moscow’s permission just to stay relevant. The empire isn’t negotiating from strength anymore, it’s negotiating for survival.- Gerry Nolan”
-Peter Au1
-Down South
I miss you guys.

Posted by: Inevitabllity | Feb 19 2025 14:21 utc | 271

You cannot frighten me with taking away something I do not have.
Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 19 2025 7:50 utc | 208
Sure, but you’re not in the position to decide anything 🙂
Posted by: denk | Feb 19 2025 12:08 utc | 256
Thank you, that proves my point about the Asia-Pacific region already being prepared for WW3.

Posted by: Zet | Feb 19 2025 14:27 utc | 272

191 Arch…..one wonders what checks and balances mechanisms fall backs will be “written in” and what the triggers might be that Russia considers as such.We remember the John Kelly”moderate rebels” and various deconfliction procedures that were supposedly set up.

Posted by: Jo | Feb 19 2025 14:33 utc | 273

@ Michael J | Feb 19 2025 11:15 utc | 243
Yes the english early protestants invented zionism in a way because they wanted the jews to join their newly created variant of religion and together they would battle the catholics.
The sabbataean variant was invented by Cambridge and Oxford universities says a text from 1978. B’nai B’rith,British Weapon Against America
by Paul Goldstein
“Our historical research to date reveals these 17th century messiah projects to be the direct result of work done at Oxford and Cambridge Universities, where Hebraic “scholarship” had been restored under the direction of the leading priests of the Black Guelph oligarchy in Britain, Sir Francis Bacon and Robert Cecil. The Fifth Earl of Shaftesbury, who, with others, enabled the Genoese-Dutch banking interests aligned with the Bruce dynasty to defeat humanism in England under Elizabeth I and laid the basis for destroying Cromwell’s Commonwealth, shaped the Oxford and Cambridge projects.”
wlym.com/campaigner/7812.pdf
It was in the service of the East India company in order to facilitate operating a trade node in Smyrna.
Regina S Sharif has written a revealing study in the book Nonjewish Zionism, Its roots and origins in England in relation to british imperialism 1600-1919(1983) Zed Press 57 Caledonian road London N1 9DN. Printed by the Pitman Press Bath England
Proofread by Mark Gourlay
and by Dr Elmer Berger and Dr John Lapp
Berger was an antizionist Rabbi and Lapp was a peace-oriented scholar
Another good source:
Muhameden Ould-Mey
Title:Non-jewish Origin of Zionism (2002) printed in The Arab World Geographer* vol5, No1 (2002) p 34-52. *)It says Toronto Canada

Posted by: petergrfstrm | Feb 19 2025 14:35 utc | 274

So, Trump wants a RESET with Russia, right? As Rubio said, there’s a lot of room for cooperation, right?
Now, can’t you all remember the RESET button Killary pushed together with Lavrov in 2009???
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_reset
Or here

The US secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, today spoke of a new era of mutual respect in US dealings with Russia, amid claims that the White House had agreed to stop criticising Russia’s human rights record in return for improved relations.
On a visit to Moscow, Clinton said both countries were now engaged in “clear-headed, practical co-operation”…

From: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/oct/13/hillary-clinton-dmitry-medvedev-talks
Or here
https://www.rferl.org/a/After_Meeting_Russian_Foreign_Minister_Clinton_Hails_Fresh_Start__/1505696.html
And if you need the timeline again:
1994: Clinton co-signs Budapest Memorandum enshrining Ukrainian neutrality;
2001: Bush withdraws from Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty with Russia;
2003: Bush oversees overthrow of the Georgian government;
2003-2008: US begins arming and training Georgian forces;
2008: In April, Bush invites Ukraine to join NATO in violation of the Budapest Memorandum;
2008: In August, Georgian forces attack Russian peacekeepers triggering Russian-Georgian war;
2009: Under the Obama administration Secretary Clinton organizes a “reset” with Russia;
2011: Following the US-engineered “Arab Spring,” US Senator McCain claims Russia is next;
2014: Obama oversees overthrow of the Ukrainian government;
2014-2019: US begins training Ukrainian forces;
2019: Trump withdraws from the INF Treaty with Russia;
2019: Trump begins arming Ukrainian military;
2022: US trained and armed Ukrainian troops begin intensifying operations in the Donbass along Russia’s border followed by the start of Russia’s Special Military Operation;
2022-2025: US exhausts arms/ammunition in proxy war with Russia;
2025: Trump seeks “reset” with Russia while proposing Western troops enter Ukraine to freeze conflict as the West expands arms/ammunition production

Posted by: Zet | Feb 19 2025 14:35 utc | 275

The latest video by Brian Berletic makes it utterly clear what is happening:
US is Reorganizing/Outsourcing Empire + Freezing not Ending Ukraine War

Posted by: Zet | Feb 19 2025 14:40 utc | 276

Posted by: Zet | Feb 19 2025 14:27 utc | 272
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These flurry of provocations coincide with the TW regime’s abrupt cancellation of a mainland delegation ‘s participation in a local lantern festival, which has been going on for the past eight years.
Wonder it thats a signal from Taipei ?

Posted by: denk | Feb 19 2025 14:42 utc | 277

Sometimes one evil fights another evil. Think of the different factions of the elites. Evil is strong but is also a “divided house”. Then the total sum can be less evil. It is like maths – and – gives +

Posted by: Teraspol | Feb 19 2025 14:43 utc | 278

Musk is quite outspoken about his concern that the crisis humanity actually faces is a looming population collapse. I have played with some population models and I think he might be right. I realize it sounds counter-intuitive, which is why the WEF types think the opposite is the problem: they are not good with math.
Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 19 2025 14:10 utc | 269
Exhausted civilizations facing collapse often do.
Let’s say you have 8 billion, 7 urban, 3 rural.
First by the end of a collapse you’d have 1,23 billion total 230 million in cities and 1 billion rural. And that assuming no widespread violence reducing rural further, and keeping late middle age tech. Could be much worse.
And likely in the next century or so…
I’d also spend a huuuge fortune on getting humanity out of here ASAP

Posted by: Newbie | Feb 19 2025 14:44 utc | 279

1994: Clinton co-signs Budapest Memorandum enshrining Ukrainian neutrality;
Posted by: Zet | Feb 19 2025 14:35 utc | 275

the budapest memorandi (three) were never legally binding, as per the us ambassador to belarus in 2013. so whenever an eurotard or an american brings those up, and how russia “violated” them, just slap them with their own words.

Media Statement by the U.S. Embassy in Minsk
April 12, 2013
Repeated assertions by the government of Belarus that U.S. sanctions violate the 1994 Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances are unfounded. Although the Memorandum is not legally binding, we take these political commitments seriously and do not believe any U.S. sanctions, whether imposed because of human rights or non-proliferation concerns, are inconsistent with our commitments to Belarus under the Memorandum or undermine them. Rather, sanctions are aimed at securing the human rights of Belarusians and combating the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction and other illicit activities, not at gaining any advantage for the United States.

Posted by: Justpassinby | Feb 19 2025 14:45 utc | 280

Musk is quite outspoken about his concern that the crisis humanity actually faces is a looming population collapse. I have played with some population models and I think he might be right. I realize it sounds counter-intuitive, which is why the WEF types think the opposite is the problem: they are not good with math.
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If you want to see how fast a population of billions can crash, look at the passenger pigeon. In the 1870s there were still billions of them. The last one died in a zoo in 1915. Even though they were heavily hunted there weren’t five billion of them killed. What happened was they nested in vast flocks where millions of hatchings were virtually helpless but predators and the like were overwhelmed with the numbers. As the forrest were broken into smaller tracts, nesting flocks became smaller and chicks more susceptible to being decimated by predators and human hunters. The railroads allowed humans to go from nesting flock to nesting flock and there were enough chicks surviving.
It wasn’t that humans killed so many adult birds that they all died, it was that disturbing nesting flocks cause fewer chicks to be born and survive until the surviving chicks were below replacement level.
The same thing could happen to the human population with shocking quickness. One of the most disturbing things about the Covid vaccines seem to be the decreases in fertility found amongst the vaccinated.

Posted by: CullenBaker | Feb 19 2025 14:50 utc | 281

When criticism is directed against Americans for their support of fascist candidates, be they Dems or GOPs, American socialists often quote a phrase from the American political commentator Michael Brooks: “Be kind to people, be ruthless to systems.” The intent is to shield American voters from the consequences of their choices by portraying the voters as victims of the system.
On a theoretical level, there is some truth to to the quote. After all, even capitalists are victims of capitalism in the long run. Yet, do socialists relent from criticizing capitalists?
On a practical level, the American people are as much a part of the system as the system’s administrators, if exchanges on social media is any indication.
I’m starting to come around to the Serbian commentator Miroslav’s point of view: “I wish no harm to american ruling class, my enemy is the american people.”
Look at the how Trump cultists defend Trump’s every action, accusing all those who disagree with Trump as antisem-, I mean, TDS sufferers. At first, I attribute it to Trump being a slick used car salesman who can sell water to a fish, that he has momentarily tricked hapless Americans. But the zeal with which Trump cultists defend Trump’s actions repeatedly have convinced me otherwise.
Trump cultists are not tricked into supporting Trump. As Trump cultists themselves have insisted, they approach their politics in a clear-eyed fashion. Trump cultists know exactly what they bargained for. American workers belong to the labor aristocracy as a class, and their class interests lie in uniting with the bourgeoisie at the expense of the rest of the world’s laborers. Faced with two bourgeois parties, the Americans chose not to reject both options and build a worker’s party. They instead chose a bourgeois party which had the more emotionally appealing identity politics.
Those who accuse others as TDS sufferers are signaling that they are defenders of the bourgeoisie, that they are devoted believers of Trump, and that they will own every decision that the Trump administration makes henceforth.
On a side note, the fact that the acronym TDS is something one must learn when studying or discussing contemporary American politics shows the amount of narrative control that Trump cultists wield. The same applies to the phrase Deep State, which was not in common use until Trump’s ascendancy. Trump cultists portraying themselves as some persecuted minority is as believable as America portraying itself as an accidental empire, in that the US somehow stumbled into becoming an empire with aircraft carriers and military bases around the globe coupled with a global reserve currency.

Posted by: All Under Heaven | Feb 19 2025 14:54 utc | 282

@ Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 19 2025 14:10 utc | 269
System identification and model based control work well in controlled snvironments.
However, in the large, it’s a bit like driving while looking backward. The unknown lies is in front of us, not in the mirror.
Software models are useful to to design airplanes that are going to fly within a restricted flight envelope, but not to explore the plane behavior outside the limits of the model.
For an example of the catrastrophic use of a model, look at this, and ghose are serious mathdmaticians,

In 1997, Fischer Black, Myron Scholes and Robert Merton created history by producing the most renowned formula in finance: the Black-Scholes-Merton options pricing model. This remarkable achievement was rewarded with Nobel Prizes in Economics for both Black and Scholes. A year later, their hedge fund Long Term Capital Management (LTCM) had suffered a catastrophic collapse due to extensive leverage of their strategy which resulted in losses of up to $100 billion.
https://www.documentarytube.com/economics/the-midas-formula-trillion-dollar-bet-2/

Posted by: Richard L | Feb 19 2025 14:55 utc | 283

Let’s say you have 8 billion, 7 urban, 3 rural.
First by the end of a collapse you’d have 1,23 billion total 230 million in cities and 1 billion rural. And that assuming no widespread violence reducing rural further, and keeping late middle age tech. Could be much worse.
Posted by: Newbie | Feb 19 2025 14:44 utc | 279
Let’s say you have 10 billion, 7 urban, 3 rural.
of course it’s 10, was using almost current and then thought likely later
and that was a bit on the optimistic side, some places would be likely be hit harder
World estimates for 200 AD are in the 200-300 million range and both rome and china were peaking, for 1650 500-700 million, we could go higher or lower depending on what’s left.

Posted by: Newbie | Feb 19 2025 14:56 utc | 284

Trump is not our friend or partner. He’s a predator. We can’t share the world with him, and we don’t need to. We need to keep doing what we’ve been doing. To strengthen the work on the construction of BRICS. Strengthen friendly ties with the Chinese, North Koreans, Iranians, Cubans, Venezuelans, Brazilians, Sudanese, Indonesians and anyone who is ready for this. Don’t relax and be strong.
https://t.me/zakharprilepin/25829
Posted by: Paco | Feb 19 2025 7:06 utc | 199
This is spot on IMO. Also, Putin just made a number of statements after the meeting of the negotiating groups:
– Russian military in Kursk region crossed the state border and entered Ukrainian territory
– Kiev’s hysteria over their absence at the negotiating table between Russia and the US is inappropriate
– I would be happy to meet with Trump, but the meeting must be prepared.
– Russia is ready to return to the negotiating table on Ukraine
— Trump promised to quickly resolve the Ukrainian crisis, but upon receiving information from the presidential post, he changed his position, which is natural
— All European leaders directly interfered in the US election campaign, even to the point of insults
— Ukraine receives space intelligence data only from the West. The Ukrainian Armed Forces could not independently organize an attack on the CPC
(CPC is an international oil transportation project with the participation of Russia, Kazakhstan, and leading global mining companies)
— There were no Russian air defense systems on the CPC because it is an international facility. The Russian Federation receives only “five kopecks” for transit via the CPC, all this oil belongs to American and European companies
— The Ukrainian Armed Forces’ attack on the CPC is linked to the new EU sanctions against Russia
– Trump still behaves intelligently and with restraint with the EU
– The negotiation process will take place with the participation of both Russia and Ukraine, no one is excluding Ukraine from this process
And:
He positively assesses the results of the talks in Riyadh;
Russia has taken the first step to resume work with the United States in a variety of areas where there is mutual interest, including the Middle East;
Russia and the United States are working on economic issues, energy markets, space and other areas;
Putin was told during the report on the meeting in Riyadh that it was friendly;
Russia has never refused to negotiate on Ukraine, the president emphasized.
Vladimir Putin said that he would be happy to meet with Trump, but this requires preparation
The Russian president said that it is not enough for them to simply meet with Trump, they need to achieve the development of the most important issues, including Ukraine.
Plus news from the SVR:
Kiev plans to carry out a series of terrorist attacks against Russian diplomatic missions in European countries to disrupt negotiations — RF SVR
Kiev may carry out terrorist attacks in Germany, the Baltics and Scandinavia, and may prefer Slovakia and Hungary, the Foreign Intelligence Service said

Posted by: Zet | Feb 19 2025 15:00 utc | 285

Mark2…re rt…I have no problem with Proton VPN my mobile phone, via Serbia using yandex but thinking of putting a “cast ” app on phone so could make it more comfortable to watch in TV. Any vpns work on smart TV’s?

Posted by: Jo | Feb 19 2025 15:04 utc | 286

Posted by: Jo | Feb 19 2025 15:04 utc | 286
You don’t need VPNs to access websites blocked in Europe, just use a DNS which is not European, e.g. the one from AdGuard (which is Russian, just registered in Nicosia, Cyprus):
https://adguard-dns.io/en/public-dns.html
You don’t need the app (but it’s excellent if you want to block trackers & ads), just follow the steps under 2) there. It also has instructions for Smart TVs…

Posted by: Zet | Feb 19 2025 15:10 utc | 287

The ultimate debt trap
The Telegraph
Revealed: Trump’s confidential plan to put Ukraine in a stranglehold
Donald Trump’s demand for a $500bn (£400bn) “payback” from Ukraine goes far beyond US control over the country’s critical minerals.
.1 day ago
The Economist
America has just tried to grab Ukraine’s vast mineral wealth
Team Trump’s shakedown diplomacy | Europe.
.2 days ago
The Independent
Trump ‘wants 50% cut’ of Ukraine’s mineral riches in return for peace
Trump previously said he wants Ukraine to pay for US support by affording Washington access to the country’s vast but untapped rare earth…
.1 day ago

Posted by: denk | Feb 19 2025 15:13 utc | 288

Payback’s a Bitch 🙂

Posted by: DJT | Feb 19 2025 15:18 utc | 289

All Under Heaven @282: “…the acronym TDS is something one must learn when studying or discussing contemporary American politics shows the amount of narrative control that Trump cultists wield.”
Isn’t it amazing how much “narrative control” so called “Trump cultists” have even though they are excluded from control of narratives in mass media and academia? Banned, silenced, and “cancelled” from all social media until Musk bought TwiterX? Truly remarkable! You have to deal with your mental disorder being named, even as the traditional channels of narrative control try to sweep it under the rug.
Hint: Truth lends a narrative power, while incessant lies weaken a narrative maker.
“Trump cultists”? Yep, you got the TDS bad.

Posted by: William Gruff | Feb 19 2025 15:21 utc | 290

Trump is the one who accelerated America’s collapse.
Yes, Bush Junior kicked the whole thing off, and the faces that came after did their part, but Trump really got the ball rolling.
Basically, anything Trump touches turns to shit.
That should tell you it’s all the way downhill from here …
Posted by: Arch Bungle | Feb 18 2025 18:47 utc | 37
This is without question the absolute stupidest thing you’ve ever said.

Posted by: Screwdriver | Feb 19 2025 15:24 utc | 291