Vance Criticizes Europe In Fierce Speech
The 2007 speech by Russia's President Vladimir Putin at the Munich Security Conference was one for the ages.
Concepts mentioned therein are only now getting acknowledged:
It is well known that international security comprises much more than issues relating to military and political stability. It involves the stability of the global economy, overcoming poverty, economic security and developing a dialogue between civilisations.This universal, indivisible character of security is expressed as the basic principle that “security for one is security for all”.
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The unipolar world that had been proposed after the Cold War did not take place either.
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It is world in which there is one master, one sovereign. And at the end of the day this is pernicious not only for all those within this system, but also for the sovereign itself because it destroys itself from within.
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There is no reason to doubt that the economic potential of the new centres of global economic growth will inevitably be converted into political influence and will strengthen multipolarity.
Eighteen years later the new U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio acknowledged the fact of a multipolar world. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth demolished any hope for Ukraine to enter NATO. Donald Trump, by calling President Putin, accepted the concept of a shared if not yet indivisible security. In 2007 Putin also spoke out against the abuse of so called NGOs to manipulate foreign countries' internal policies. Trump has now stopped USAID and NED from financing these.
Eighteen years on the core concepts of Putin's speech have thus been accepted.
Yesterday another speech at the Munich Security Conference was given by U.S. Vice-President JD Vance (video, transcript). It will also echo for years to come:
Vance opened by saying that the biggest threat to Europe comes not from Russia or China or other external threats. It comes from within by the antidemocratic instincts and behavior of those in power, who trample free speech in the name of fighting ‘disinformation’ and show no respect for political opposition.
While I agree with Vance on this I wonder if he can acknowledge his own U.S. made hypocrisy. It were not the Europeans who initiated the campaign against 'disinformation'. It was the U.S. who came up with this concept and which has been using its 'soft power' to push censorship into Europe.
The German Defense Minister immediately reinforced Vance's critique of too little tolerance for political speech in Europe by calling his speech unacceptable:
"Democracy was called into question by the US Vice President for the whole of Europe earlier," German Defense Minister Boris Pistorius said from the main stage at the conference. "He speaks of the annihilation of democracy. And if I have understood him correctly, he is comparing conditions in parts of Europe with those in authoritarian regions... that is not acceptable."
This critique by Vance is also shallow:
I was struck that a former European commissioner went on television recently and sounded delighted that the Romanian government had just annulled an entire election. He warned that if things don’t go to plan, the very same thing could happen in Germany too.Now, these cavalier statements are shocking to American ears.
For years, we’ve been told that everything we fund and support is in the name of our shared democratic values. Everything—from our Ukraine policy to digital censorship—is billed as a defense of democracy.
But when we see European courts canceling elections, and senior officials threatening to cancel others, we ought to ask whether we’re holding ourselves to an appropriately high standard.
As Arnaud Bertrand points out:
[O]n Romania and much of Vance's criticism directed at Europe, the U.S. was right there alongside Europe acting jointly, and often even guiding Europe's actions. Specifically on Romania for instance, I believe that the US State Department was first in issuing a statement on December 4th (https://2021-2025.state.gov/statement-on-romanias-presidential-elections/) expressing its concern about "Russian involvement in malign cyber activity designed to influence the integrity of the Romanian electoral process" which led to the elections being cancelled two days later (and which, it was later proven, was completely false: it turned out that this "malign cyber activity" were paid for by the very Romanian party in power that cancelled the elections!). It's only after that State Department statement that the Europeans followed the U.S.'s lead.So it's a bit rich, even very rich, for Vance, less than 2 months afterwards, to lecture Europeans on this without as much as acknowledging the U.S.'s own role in a lot of it.
Vance also criticized mass immigration to Europe. But he is neglecting the fact that the streams of Afghan, Syrian and Ukrainian refugees are a consequence of wars that the U.S. has caused and is waging. He laments the de-industrialization of Germany but ignores the U.S. bombing of the Nord Stream pipelines which is the greatest cause of it.
Vance calls for more democracy in Europe but at the same time is actively meddling in it. By pushing nationalist parties against European institution he is endangering peace in Europe.
The speech is a wake up call for Europeans to fight for their own sovereignty. As such it may have good impact:
After the dark days of the Biden repressions, the reliance of Power on corrupt intelligence agencies and the weaponization of the Justice Department, it was remarkable to be treated to such brave words from a top American official in defense of the people against the authoritarian rulers in Brussels, in Berlin, in Paris.It is hard to see how the usurper Ursula van der Leyen and her whole team of people-haters will be able to hold onto power in these conditions.
Vance's speech may also be seen as the watershed where the U.S. divorces from Europe. There is a hidden danger in this:
The Europeanisation of Nato, framed as a necessity following US withdrawal, has accelerated the continent’s militarisation and its leaders’ demonisation of Russia, perpetuating the very conditions that caused the conflict in Ukraine in the first place. Instead of using this moment to engage in diplomacy, European leaders view the US retreat as a reason to escalate militarily. In this sense, Washington’s decoupling from Europe is at odds with Trump’s stated aim of achieving peace in Ukraine.
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Ironically, the US’s attempt to distance itself from European security affairs may ultimately pull it back into an even larger conflict — one that it will have far less control over.
Posted by b on February 15, 2025 at 12:57 UTC | Permalink
next page »In the wake of Vice President Vance’s words to Europeans denouncing anti-democratic restraint of of the public’s tendency to elect whoever they wish to I am reminded of the US Communist Control Act of 1954 which
made membership to the Communist Party a criminal act and stipulated that all Party members would be sanctioned with up to a $10,000 fine or imprisonment for five years or both if they failed to register with the U.S. Attorney General as such. Additionally, according to the third section, the Communist Party would be deprived of "the rights, privileges, and immunities of a legal body."
The Act criminalizes political associations and has not been rescinded by law or struck down by courts. Surely this is as outrageous an attack on the public’s right to choose their political destiny in a democratic context as anything happening in Europe.
Posted by: a stone | Feb 15 2025 13:16 utc | 2
Vance calls for more democracy in Europe but at the same time is actively meddling in it. By pushing nationalist parties against European institution he is endangering peace in Europe.
Doing the exact opposite in the US when he is quite happy to send the brown shirts into student campuses and bash them over their heads.
Just stop oil, black lives matter, Occupy wall street movement, the unions when on strike.
The right populists all sing from the same song sheet no matter what country they are in.
Right wing agendas - We want free speech.
Any agenda not on the right wing - Lock them up.
Watch GB News for 5 mins and the exact same tactic Vance used is on display in a repeating cycle all day long.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 15 2025 13:17 utc | 3
the US State Department was first in issuing a statement on December 4th expressing its concern about "Russian involvement in malign cyber activity designed to influence the integrity of the Romanian electoral process"
Vance and Trump were not sworn in until January 20th.
Posted by: librul | Feb 15 2025 13:19 utc | 4
Vance's speech is a pretentious example of trying to portray losing as winning. The things that he demands of Europe are actually concessions that the USA has surrendered to. For example in losing control of the Romanian vote.
It could be summed up as "The USA is new sheriff in town. Please continue to hold our bags while we retreat".
Posted by: too scents | Feb 15 2025 13:20 utc | 5
No mention of this ?
" Russia wants US to clarify Ukraine troop deployment threat
The Kremlin has asked Washington to explain Vice President J.D. Vance’s comments "
https://www.rt.com/russia/612728-kremlin-vance-us-ukraine-comment/
Posted by: Lavrov | Feb 15 2025 13:22 utc | 6
European leaders view the US retreat as a reason to escalate militarily. In this sense, Washington’s decoupling from Europe is at odds with Trump’s stated aim of achieving peace in Ukraine.
Weak sauce.
Posted by: librul | Feb 15 2025 13:22 utc | 7
Posted by: Exile | Feb 15 2025 13:14 utc | 1
Read MAGA's political agenda.
Here:
https://www.theunpopulist.net/p/trumps-budget-director-pick-would
Then explain using 100 words were free speech fits into Any of it.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 15 2025 13:24 utc | 8
The speech is hypocritical but nevertheless 100% correct about the Eurovassals, who now see the downside of surrendering their sovereignty.
I've said all along the least bad thing the US can do is to drop all of Europe cold turkey and walk away without a backward glance. While the new administration isn't quite doing that, this disavowal of continuing to take responsibility for the Borderland or sink resources into it, and the assertive foisting of all moral and practical responsibility onto the Eurovassals, is certainly a step on the right direction.
Now if the US would only disavow its nuclear umbrella as well, that would solve any future problem of the vassal poodle-tails wagging the dog, the way Zelensky is still successfully doing with the Europeans themselves.
Posted by: Flying Dutchman | Feb 15 2025 13:26 utc | 9
What happened to BRICS ? Not looking good.
" Trump's productive meeting with Prime Minister of India Moldi:
US to supply (sell) F35 fighters to India
India committed to strengthening law enforcement to tackle immigration issues:
Two leaders have agreed to call talks soon on IMEC and LNG (liquid natural gas) partnership
Both leaders pledged to continue collaboration on key new technologies, launching a US-India trust initiative:
An agreement has been reached on harnessing the potential of civil nuclear energy through the construction of US-designed nuclear reactors in India:
Modi, Trump have agreed to open talks for mutual defence orders:
Modi, Trump announce plan for new 10-year defence partnership:
President Trump called Moldi his “great friend,” but warned that India could not shield himself from the higher tariffs he has started imposing on US trade partners worldwide. "
https://www.rt.com/india/612739-trump-modi-talks-trade-deal/
Posted by: Lavrov | Feb 15 2025 13:27 utc | 10
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 15 2025 13:17 utc | 3
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Meh,
Garbage in garbage out.
The EU is still an increasingly dystopian, corrupt, neo-shit-lib and authoritarian tumor on the body politic of Europe. Whilst the UK is an outright festering shit-hole these days.
The message *is* factually true, even if the messenger is full of it.
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No mention of this ?
" Russia wants US to clarify Ukraine troop deployment threat
The Kremlin has asked Washington to explain Vice President J.D. Vance’s comments "
https://www.rt.com/russia/612728-kremlin-vance-us-ukraine-comment/
Posted by: Lavrov | Feb 15 2025 13:22 utc | 6
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No because:
A) It's the usual suspects shit-stirring. Being regurgitated by RT as "news".
B) The US has no armies to send, for a war like the one in Ukraine nor do the Eurocucks.
Posted by: Urban Fox | Feb 15 2025 13:32 utc | 11
My God folks, B is pointing out great things happening and you finally have serious positive movements and yet politics just keeps getting in the way. WTF is wrong with all of you, all you can do is bitch. Yes Trump kinda sucks on Gaza. Who do you think runs the US and the West??? Is he a fool?? You keyboard warriors HAVE NO IDEA what goes on in the real world. It's so stupid it burns. There is probably a REASON he was allowed to win for the third time by the powers that be.
In any event, ffs you all act as if Trump is some firebreathing retarded redneck conservative. His favorite artist is Elton John ffs and he likes to dance to the Village People. The dude was a DEMOCRAT most of his life and hated wars forever and the sellout of American industry and the American worker. Hated the stupid impeachment of Clinton and thought GWB should have been impeached for what he did to Iraq.
WAKE THE FUCK UP. Putin ain't perfect and has to cut a lot of side deals with the powers that be in his own country and he's been running the show for 25 years. Just look at what the deep state did to Trump during his first term and after it. And he had really no infrastructure the first go round.
Stop your fucking bitching, it's annoying as shit. People cannot really be this stupid, can they
??
Posted by: Johnny | Feb 15 2025 13:32 utc | 12
Trying to 'Europeanize' Nato will lead to the self-implosion of EU.
It is a paradox when you lose most of your export base, while cutting majority of domestic social and health services (and major portion of GDP growth, with it, most of it coming from public expenditure), while sending most of your tax or printed money outside your own currency zone to feed the US MIC industry, while paying, per Reuters, around 300 billion Euros per year into a Ukrainian black hole.
Posted by: unimperator | Feb 15 2025 13:35 utc | 13
Peace is Ukraine is both incredibly hard and easy. Explain to European voters taht 1 million Ukrainian middle aged men died fighting Russia as proxies for nato and out politicians 100% did this deliberately. The shame will make the inevitably huge concessions doable.
Of course the continued lying about Ukrainian casualties is simply a ploy to delay any concessions. There can be no US or Nato presence or guarantees in rump Ukraine. Everyone secretly knows this and to suggest they can or should be is a pure delaying tactic.
Vance's speech was a great US 2028 campaign speech if delivered in US. As Pointed out above it was a disastrous piece of diplomacy in Europe. The current US VP just said that all the awful things US has done in last 20 years are terrible and mostly Europes fault. Foot very much in mouth.
As well as Romania, it could be pointed out that the immigrant Merkel let in to attack Munich the day before was ... Afghan - a topic to duck not highlight. The freedom of speech on social media he goes on about - well we all know future censorship will be through LLM models controlled by guess who? Oh Vance's ex boss Peter Thiel and his AI friends like Zuck and Musk.
And biggest irony of all. There is not a Defence Minister, Foreign Minister or even a General in Europe who has not been pre-vetted by the CIA. Just who did Vance think was the audience?
Posted by: Michael Droy | Feb 15 2025 13:35 utc | 14
Yawn...we are willing to take that "hidden danger" of the Eurocommies actually stepping up and spending money and militarizing themselves. We've got two coasts and a big ocean between us and Euroland. You are more important to each other than you are to us. Get over yourselves.
Oh...and it's not "hidden". It's the same boring rationale that's been brought up since 1945...that we have to spend our money and boys on the Cold War, while you diddle yourselves, just to prevent France and Germany scrapping again. We don't care. Go double your defense budgets. Do whatever the eff you want to. We don't care.
Come talk to us AFTER you've doubled your defense budgets. Not one word before. We don't want to hear you. You are just dependent children. And we ain't paying for you. We aren't Uncle Sugar any more. Sayonara.
Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 15 2025 13:35 utc | 15
What Europe is doing is funding , arming and supporting an authoritarian regime in Kiev whose actions are utterly inimical to the wishes and interests of the Ukrainian people, and that is being done against the wishes of the EU peoples too.
It isn’t European “leaders” who need to participate in, and have a voice in the Ukraine peace process; it is the people of Ukraine .
Likewise, it is the people of the EU who need to have agency in the decision to forcibly induct Ukraine into EU membership..
Posted by: CitizenSmith | Feb 15 2025 13:36 utc | 16
Vance's speech was a great US 2028 campaign speech if delivered in US.
Posted by: Michael Droy | Feb 15 2025 13:35 utc | 14
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Vance doesn't stand a chance against Gabbard.
Posted by: too scents | Feb 15 2025 13:38 utc | 17
Vance went on X and cried from the rooftops that American judges should be impeached if they stop MAGA when MAGA is breaking the law and riding a train through the constitution.
Never mind not beliving in free speech in America. He doesn't even acknowledge American laws or the constitution.
It is ALL bullshit ! -Right wing populist propaganda.
It is very clear what is happening once again is the foreign policy part of the speech is giving many people a throbbing erection. Yet, they very easily turn a blind eye to the glaring hypocrisy of the whole speech.
They are wanking with one hand and covering one eye with the other hand. Romania was the disco light this time rather than USAID. With some people a disco light is all it takes.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 15 2025 13:39 utc | 18
Trump Upends NATO Proxy War
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pu1KzzXbT2E
"Will Canada spoil peace? University of Ottawa Russia expert Paul Robinson joined Talking Foreign Policy to discuss the Trump administration's recent comments and diplomatic measures as well asconcerns that Canada will seek to undercut negotiations to end the horrific conflict.
Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 15 2025 13:41 utc | 19
Tom Luongo had a discussion on the Duran which he described differing internal power/finance blocks within the US & Europe. To simplify, globalist Nozi bankers and 'old' US power (WASP/military).
In this sense Vance makes more sense. Calling Vance hypocritical because he is rejecting Biden (puppet) internationalist backers policies does not seem correct.
To state the obvious, the Trump admin did not color revolutionize Romania, Georgia, etc. It is currently limiting USAID. It did/does not promote helter skelter mass immigration. Trumps signature achievement in his first admin was in not starting a new war, that was a significant not happening for the US.
If Europe does become more militarily independent (does it have a choice?), it might just become more independent in choosing energy providers.
Europe will not escalate in UKrain if the US drops out. Evaporating US provided ISR and Starlink services alone would collapse the UKrain military. It will follow the US lead and retrench. It will make nice with Russia it's neighbor and start trading again. Because it needs to do so.
Russia needs it as well, as they can not rely on China/India with overextended shipping routes forever. They have just waiting to be used empty pipelines. They need more than the Power of Siberia.
Posted by: jopalolive | Feb 15 2025 13:42 utc | 20
Two things that must be admitted and included in all lectures given by Americans to Europeans.
1) US started the war in US backed and led former state of Ukraine when it launched the Maidan Coup (funded by USAID)
2) The current POTUS and previous POTUS take credit for stopping Nord Stream.
Posted by: chunga | Feb 15 2025 13:42 utc | 21
"Vance calls for more democracy in Europe but at the same time is actively meddling in it.."
Posted by: Sunny | Feb 15 2025 13:17 utc | 3
Yet you follow and idolize Rachel Maddow's ideas.
God help you.
Part of Vance's speech:
"The third challenge I want to talk about is we're horrified in this country. And I see it on both the left and the right. We're horrified of unconventional people who say and believe unconventional things. I got myself into a little hot water last week, because I made what seemed to me a plainly obvious observation that Alex Jones, the Infowars guy, is a better source of information than Rachel Maddow, the MSNBC gal. Now, some people said, ‘Well, JD, you're just trolling.’ Well, yeah, of course, I was just trolling. But that doesn't mean what I said is in any way untrue. Look, I think there's a not terrible chance that one of you is going to be sharing cellblock 12A in Premier Harris's prison detention camp in a few years. If we're going to all end up in that place, we might as well have a little fun while we get there. It's okay to troll when you when you make and speak fundamental truths. But look, I do think that — I do think what I said was correct. Yeah, I was trolling; I was also speaking a truth. Because look, if you listen to Rachel Maddow every night, the basic worldview that you have, is that MAGA grandmas who have family dinners on Sunday and bake apple pies for their family are about to start a violent insurrection against this country.
But if you listen to Alex Jones every day, you would believe that a transnational financial elite controls things in our country, that they hate our society, and oh, by the way, a lot of them are probably sex perverts too. Sorry, ladies and gentlemen, that's actually a hell of a lot more true than Rachel Maddow's view of society. "
Trump inherited a horrendous budgetary and monetary situation which really acts very much like a financial straight-jacket on his administration. The Biden administration after the largesse of the COVID hidden GFC-2 bailout (the late 2019 repo crisis predated COVID) did not work to right the fiscal ship, but instead opened up the spigots again in 2022 as the economy looked to be in recession. Then the Fed played along from early 2023 onwards, especially after the regional bank crisis showed how fragile everything was.
Everything was being done to get the Dems elected, but Trump spoiled the party (well actually Kamala did by going all in Zionist genocide supporter). Powell even played at being the three inflation monkeys (see no inflation, hear no inflation, don't talk about inflation) to cut interest rates just before the election, but to no avail. Of course, the mess is also the result of two plus decades of unfunded war fighting, unfunded tax cuts for the rich and unfunded state bailouts for the rich. Trump probably will not fix this as he is focused on saving his previous tax cuts from expiring and providing more to his oligarch buddies. But he has to find the money for these, as increasing the deficit even more risks the US$ and long term interest rates.
So Trump has to find lots of savings. USAID and the NED are relatively small potatoes, so he has to go after other routes. One is tariffs, that will fall mostly on the poorest in society and much of his MAGA base; regressive taxation. That still will not be enough though, and he can't go too big on tariffs because of the inflationary effect. So he needs to make other cuts, like funding for Ukraine and getting the vassals to pay more for their occupying forces. And buy more US MIC overpriced shit, and overpriced US LNG to help the US economy and the related tax revenues. He is on a tight-rope as cuts in government spending are deflationary, especially if they impact high propensity to consume groups (e.g. Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Unemployment Insurance etc.) while tariffs are inflationary - stagflation. So cut foreign spending as much as possible, raise tariffs a bit and reduce some defence spending which will be balanced by extra vassal MIC purchases.
That's why the European vassals are getting so abused, they have to give up on their Ukraine dream and pay more tribute to the Imperial Centre which is more and more debt-laden and de-industrialized as China and Russia go from strength to strength. There will be no major war, the US can simply not afford it and are utterly dependent upon critical Chinese imports. There may still be a massive GFC-3 during Trump's term, things are very finely balanced.
I have detailed this in Trump's Fiscal Hole: An Emperor In A Financial Straight-Jacket. Biden and his predecessors delivered a stinking fiscal and monetary mess to Trump
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Feb 15 2025 13:44 utc | 23
It seems unfair to insist that the USA did this to us, that we are this authoritarian because the USA made us do it, which is how I'm reading your post.
America is not as much monolithic as Europe is. In Europe, with few exceptions, governments are formed from two nearly identical blocks, centre-right and centre-left, both neoliberal, pro-immigration, pro-sexual degeneracy, pro-green policies, in summary, leftish (not real Left).
America has a real division between conservatives and liberals. What you and Arnaud Bertrand are blaming on America, was actually the deeds of American liberals, they started this estrangulation of freedoms, not freedom-loving Americans, and here in Europe both political blocks were happy to oblige leading to things like the Romanian shenanigan and the efforts to isolate AfD.
America is under new management, and Vance was honest and straighforward, as well as eloquent, about how America is re-defined. Not fair to blame Vance for freedom-curtailing work by Obama's and Biden's administrations, which Europe was just too happy to follow.
Instead of using this moment to engage in diplomacy, European leaders view the US retreat as a reason to escalate militarily.
That's not it. Europe is just being called to spend much more in American weapons to help America resolve the very big issue of trade deficits, and Europeans chiefs seem to be ready to do that, as they should. Europe will not militarize, Europe will just have to buy much more from America, and what does America produce? Well, Europe has to buy much more of all that, even if they don't need it or have other choices where to buy.
I think Trump will have a successful presidency so after him there will be Vance for 8 yr, so Europe has to understand that it is highly likely facing 12 yr of this new America. In that time frame, trade deficits need to be resolved to the benefit of America.
Of course, this will be to the detriment of social services, pensions, health, etc, of European nations to a great extent, but eurochiefs can manage that, the euro populace at large will have to accept these new realities.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Feb 15 2025 13:45 utc | 24
@Posted by: Lavrov | Feb 15 2025 13:27 utc | 10
BRICS has never been strong, India sitting on the fence, South Africa a neoliberal shithole, and Brazil run by its vassal oligarchs with a fully tamed Lula. Only the R and C are really opposed to the US Empire. That's why I put much more faith in BRINKCISTAN, Belarus, Russia, Iran, North Korea, China, Iraq, and the "Stans" - that's the real basis for the opposition.
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Feb 15 2025 13:50 utc | 25
So Trump has to find lots of savings. USAID and the NED are relatively small potatoes, so he has to go after other routes.
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Feb 15 2025 13:44 utc | 23
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He hasn't got the coal. The Ship of State will be becalmed by Summer.
One has to wonder why he took up the poisoned chalice.
Its going to be one hell of a blow off top.
Posted by: too scents | Feb 15 2025 13:51 utc | 26
Thanks a lot b for calling out how multilayered and complicated this is.
We will struggle to find one single top politician who is sincere, these days.
Posted by: Avtonom | Feb 15 2025 13:55 utc | 27
"It's remarkable to see such war mongers as von der Leyen and Baerbock finally being challenged."
Posted by: Exile | Feb 15 2025 13:14 utc | 1
Amen.
Whats to be done with the millions of ukraine refugees that as we speak will be packing their bags and heading west ?.....
EU, england, america ?
You broke it, you own it.
😁😆😂🤣
Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 15 2025 13:56 utc | 29
Vance put the European Leaders in their place. An impressive performance. Told them straight what they did not want to hear. Surprisingly, only partially reported on this side of the pond.He doesn't take prisoners and surely this is the message that Mr T wanted to convey.
Posted by: marcjf | Feb 15 2025 13:57 utc | 31
On the history of US support of the war in Ukraine:
US announces sale of anti-tank missiles to Ukraine over Russian opposition
The U.S. has announced it will sell Ukraine 210 Javelin anti-tank missiles
ByABC News
March 1, 2018, 6:06 PMThe U.S. has announced it will sell Ukraine 210 Javelin anti-tank missiles and 37 launchers, worth $47 million.
The sale marks a significant increase in U.S. military support for Ukraine — the first lethal weapons sale of its kind since Russian-backed separatists launched a war against the central government in Ukraine's eastern provinces.
ABC News first broke news of the sale in December when President Trump approved the plan and began informal notifications with Congress about it. With Thursday's formal notification, Congress now has 30 days to sink the deal or it will go through, which is expected.
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Russia has not yet commented on the official notification, but Sergei Ryabkov, Russia's deputy foreign minister, responded harshly in December when news of the sale first broke.
"The United States in a certain sense crossed the line, announcing the intention to transfer weapons of direct damaging action to Ukraine," the statement said, translated from Russian. "American weapons can lead to new victims in our neighboring country, to which we cannot remain indifferent."
Trump should not be excluded from the history of US aggressive escalation toward Russia.
Posted by: a stone | Feb 15 2025 13:57 utc | 32
I can't wait until somebody from Mein Kampf slips up and calls the newly named gulf of America the gulf of Mexico.
The brown shirts drag them off and they are never seen again. Stuffed in a cupboard in Texas given a job of licking stamps.
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 15 2025 13:59 utc | 33
@Posted by: Roger Boyd | Feb 15 2025 13:44 utc | 23
Pretty much everything Trump has done and said after taking office makes sense through the financial straight-jacket lens. His love of tariffs, DOGE, ending the Ukraine war, threats to get the Europeans to spend more. Also, his threats against anyone pulling away from the US$ reserve currency standard. His calls for lower interest rates from the Fed. He understands how fragile things are, with the economy and the banks reliant on so much monetary and fiscal largesse, and the only reason the US has not had GFC-3 being the US$ reserve currency status. Otherwise the US would like Argentina, or the UK after WW2.
Maintaining his previous gifts for his oligarch friends and providing more will be like pushing the fat man through the eye of the needle, but he will try really hard. Everything else stems from this drive to serve his oligarch class friends. Fuck the little people and Fuck the Palestinians. The US fiscal and monetary position cannot be fixed without a huge retrenchment, and that is far too threatening to the oligarchy (short of an outright fascist dictatorship a la President Wilson from 1917-1921). Without continuing fiscal and monetary largesse the US financial system would be in crisis very quickly, and the system can certainly not deal with even greater deficits that will dump the dollar and drive up the interest rates on the debt.
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Feb 15 2025 14:03 utc | 34
Lavrov 10
Hindus worship the Creation
Modi has a shrine to himself. He'll probably put the F35 in its garden.
Posted by: Giyane | Feb 15 2025 14:05 utc | 35
Free Speech on Retreat? Not sure what Vance is going about [jetlag of some sort], but pro-Palestinians and supporters of human rights are this afternoon peacefully marching in London towards the US of A embassy in the vacinity of Vauxhall bridge.
Posted by: pepe | Feb 15 2025 14:06 utc | 36
Pretty much everything Trump has done and said after taking office makes sense through the financial straight-jacket lens.
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Feb 15 2025 14:03 utc | 34
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Posted by: too scents | Feb 15 2025 14:14 utc | 37
Vance also singled out the UK and by implication Ireland for their draconian attacks on any citizen who opposes the open borders nonsense, and the admission of Ukronazi draft dodgers (who should be on the front lines fighting RF troops.....ooppss that is only for the unconnected outside of the Kieve salient)).......
The Irish people are outraged at Ukrainian and Congolese grifters now sponging off the dole in Dublin which assaulting and raping Irish citizens..........and polluting Irish society just like the Soros game plan.
Meanwhile Michael Martin is so far speechless.......that is in itself amazing..........
Posted by: tobias cole | Feb 15 2025 14:20 utc | 38
"Instead of using this moment to engage in diplomacy, European leaders view the US retreat as a reason to escalate militarily. In this sense, Washington’s decoupling from Europe is at odds with Trump’s stated aim of achieving peace in Ukraine."
This is a risk worth taking. Europe is too fragmented and in too much disarray to pull together much of any major initiative for the foreseeable future. Take the UK, not even part of Europe: "The British army is no longer regarded as a top-level fighting force, a senior US general reportedly told defence secretary Ben Wallace amid fresh concerns over the UK’s military spending." https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/ben-wallace-british-army-size-2022-us-general-b2272449.html
I doubt that the French or Germans are in much better shape. It took Russia 15 years (since Munich 2007) to build the backbone of its current military prowess. And Russia had a unified political and military command structure to direct their effort, something that, absent NATO, Europe lacks.
In addition, we should remember that the US has a firm grip on Europe's supply of energy, a powerful tool for keeping any European ambitions in check.
The best bet is to just let Europe quietly moulder and give it about the same level of attention as Latin America.
Posted by: JohnH | Feb 15 2025 14:23 utc | 39
"Trump has now stopped USAID and NED from financing these."
On the above people need to put these things into context - Trump is around for five years, that's it - once he's gone it will be business as usual by Washington - Trump in the Whitehouse, is just a bump in the road - for the long term agendas of the US Mad Dogs - in which as we know from experience, the goal is US supremacy around the globe - by any means possible.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 15 2025 14:25 utc | 40
Good analysis b, I slept on it and penned this earlier, before your post.
I’ll go further. Sorry, if it seems long.
As Victor says - and it makes Tucker break his serious face mask - “it’s bad news for lovers of conspiracy theories, they are going to need a whole new lot…”
It’s all very well throwing the failed wonderwaffen USAID, NED, Nato etc under the bus now - we all know that Thiel/Musk and co are already running the nextgen ’CIA’ with its new cutouts - their mad professor AI/X mega computers and control of every human that may trouble them.
‘It’s the Global Liberal Deep State’ Orban told TopCat cia Fucker, repeating the ‘you’ admonisation VVP of the US deep-state last year.
They will keep trying to walk away from a century of US imperialist invasions, wars, mass slaughter etc causing hundred of millions refugees to run away from their homelands …
Blaming their boy Old European partners for all the failed conspiracies! The chutzpah!!
Vance is already starting his campaign for potus 48 😆
He is the new actor, trained like Trump and Shelensky and every western stooge ‘leaders’ of the Global Robber Deep State Owners.
It’s a never ending story - the US pantomime general election!
As the nextgen owned boy of the Tech and Banker wizards Thiel and Musk and the Banker Overlords- the Munich Conference grandstanding is the casting off their crimes and sins onto the European Elites - they are willing scapegoats; no matter what they say today, tomorrow they’ll all be getting a ticket to the next Vampyre ball being constructed as this old one gets torched!
The pantomime is to retrieve relevance, after the thrashing they have all just received in the failure to take EurAsia.
The resilient and wily RF and China have survived all the sanctions that were supposed to bring them to their knees.
To destroy their marshalling of the Global South in the existential battle agains the Few by the Many.
The Eurasians weapons and tech are also superior or at least not as inferior as supposed.
The resolve of their soldiers and populations is strong and not as weak as all the trillions spent inciting ‘opposition’ in their Colored Revolutions.
It turns out much was grifters ripping of USAID ‘NGO’ funding. Including saintly Sanders and others now sitting with 100 million fortunes on their quarter million salaries.
‘Sam the Man’ Powers and the many intermarried spooky couples who have provided ‘intellectual’ cover, will be next to go under the bus. It’s all planned - that’s why Bidens family made sure he signed some of these late ‘pardons for crimes’ not even charged let alone trialled and convicted!
It is the smoking gun not-so-secret funding that is being withdrawn - but the world’s history will never forget the US in USAID! It is the main perpetrator and villain!
The attempted rewriting of that history by stage show grandstanding is what Vance gets to try out; just as WEF child actor Greta, did with her ‘ How dare you ?’ Scripted directed performance a few years ago. As the cocaine comic also did, in his green goblin outfit, to lead the ukropian proxy war against the Old Enemies.
Vance fucking references the stooge TinTin elf Princess too! This is advanced multidimensional reverse psych!! An attempt to point all these failed efforts by the ultimate Owners and dynastic masters to balkanise , divide and rule, at the ‘Europeans’.
He blames the work of his masters succeeding in Europe in keeping real populist democratic choices on the people who were put in instead! And blames it on the duped Europeans!
There is no ownership of the Gauntlet against Corbyn; no admission of the illegal political imprisonment of Assange and countless journalists. The suppression and murder and false flag terrorism. Novichok!
The moronic western liberal media whores, experts and academics are sucking it up like it’s their favourite milkshake!
Spewing it out as neo Trumpian fascism - totally ignoring all the decades of supporting fascism taking root in our nations that started with no-such-thing-as-society Thatcher.
With the never ending privatisation and selling off the public services and assets to US HEDGE FUNDS. Playing the fake Punch and Judy left/right, liberal/conservative divide and rule narrative every single fucking day … they are shameless!
They carry on today with the new characters. What else can they do? Admit they are the real bad guys? The actual Nazis, not just fearful of fascism, fake liberals?
Well they and their new betnoir Vance, can fuck right off, with that gaslighting nonsense.
Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 15 2025 14:30 utc | 41
What Russian negotiators need to note and have engraved in Russian memory is that American policy towards Russia did a screeching U turn overnight with a change in US Government,
Russia needs to ensure that the outcome of negotiations ensures 100% security when (not if), the American political pendulum swings suddenly and savagely in the other direction.
Posted by: CitizenSmith | Feb 15 2025 14:31 utc | 42
Complete BS - President Trump has no need for his private 757 at this point in time. The super presidential 747's are now at his disposal.
DJT used the 757 extensively in 2024 before and after the election.......more CNN neo fascist nonsense............
Posted by: tobias cole | Feb 15 2025 14:32 utc | 43
Talking the talk is quitisential murican.
Walking the walk is not.
Posted by: Tannenhouser | Feb 15 2025 14:32 utc | 44
The Contradictions and Certainties in the Trump-Putin Negotiations are Simple Enough For A Four Year Old Child to Understand and Say Aloud
"...In the present exaggeration of the warmaking and peacemaking between the US and Russia, the cash nexus is as obvious on the Russian side as it is on the American.
It is the reason President Donald Trump and President Vladimir Putin have appointed special emissaries so that the money on one side can negotiate with the money on the other side;
This is what Steven Witkoff, a real estate speculator, and Kirill Dimitriev, head of the Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF), are doing now.
One of the certainties of the deal-making they have commenced is that they intend the payoffs to be larger than the privatization and loans-for-shares schemes which, with White House backing, launched the Russian oligarchy 30 years ago."
Posted by: John Gilberts | Feb 15 2025 14:34 utc | 45
@Exile #1
… war mongers as Von der Leyen and Baerbock finally being challenged
Way too much credit for political nobodies … see also Liz Truss and Mark “the chameleon” Rutte 😂
Spokespersons for war narrative propagated by the Hoover Institute, Atlantic Council and after dictates from Biden, Blinken and Austin.
Sorry state of European affairs … most actors from 2021 at the time of the American blitzkrieg across the European continent have gone. Putin and Lavrov will reap the benefits of their steadfast position on security.
Laughable …
Top EU Diplomat Kaja Kallas called Trump a new Chamberlain .. get out the popcorn 🍿
https://x.com/kajakallas/status/1890050522331128136
Forget any invitation to Washington DC 🔥
USAID was the Samatha Power's private slush fund, directed by her Zionist boyfriend and Georgiev Soros of course..........not one penny for the WEF/WEC globalist nazis.....not one penny...
Posted by: tobias cole | Feb 15 2025 14:35 utc | 47
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 15 2025 13:17 utc | 3
Nothing of what you said is true. Nobody has sent brownshirts anywhere.
There are no rightwing populists that have locked up your progressive buddy lunatics.
It is exactly the opposite. Normal people have been labeled right wing without cause, locked up and prosecuted. All the while the groups you have mentioned have had free roam in the world, destructive, and heavily sponsored via USaid and others.
You are the establishment, have been since Obama.
You are in deep minority in the world as nobody wants to acknowledge your victim, weakness and mental illness ideology. It was based in any case on scientific scams in social pschycology. What we are seeing now is simply the straightening of the record.
My mother used to say: evil people you can deal with, the stupid and mentally challenged are the ones you should be afraid of.
Posted by: alek_a | Feb 15 2025 14:35 utc | 48
I'm not sure I understand this post but I will say one thing about Europe: it is to degenerate to go to war. The "leaders" of course want to thump their chests and howl and gesture but who is going to fight this war against Russia? How are they going to manufacture sufficient military equipment to challenge Russia? Even if they wanted to it would take a decade to focus society on war and train and equip a sufficient number of troops to become a war-centered society based not on self-interest but pure hate in the Orwellian sense. And that's the point they want to create a highly regulated society of sheep who will follow their leaders blindly into the abyss for the sheer pleasure of their perverse and corrupt "leaders." Nothing will come of it because there is no rational reason whatever, in reality, to fight Russia/China/Iran.
There will be no expanded war in Ukraine because, eventually, even the sheepish and weak population of the EU will figure out the scam. Power is flowing East not West and that will benefit the entire globe. The whole Ukraine project is the last stand of Western imperialism and the dream of making the USA the new Rome. The USA doesn't want to be the new Rome to fulfill the fantasies of the Euro elites who are willing to impoverish their populations to keep the dream alive.
Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Feb 15 2025 14:37 utc | 49
"While I agree with Vance on this I wonder if he can acknowledge his own U.S. made hypocrisy."
Again on the above - Vance can't recognise it - because he doesn't believe for one minute that America has done any wrong - these are not logical people we are dealing with here - Trump is a Zionist who is backing a genocide in Gaza - he even allowed the wanted war criminal Netanyahu, to visit Washington even though there's an ICC arrest warrant for Netanyahu - Trump, as in his previous tenure as POTUS - has threatened ICC staff with sanctions, if they continue to pursue the war criminal Netanyahu - blind American Exceptionalism is such that there's even a (EO) that allows the Yanks to invade the ICC, if the ICC arrests anyone that the Yanks don't want arrested - such as puppet leaders and allies.
For Europe the people of Europe need to somehow, even forcefully eject their, compliant US puppet leaders - and replace them with people who care about Europe first - Russia is in Europe the USA is not - imagine what a force Europe (including Russia) would be if the right people were in office.
You just have to take a look at Central and South America - the state its in, with US meddling - to see where Europe is going, if it doesn't purge itself of the Yankee influence.
Europe should be a powerhouse - instead its a Yankee staging post and battlefield - they must be laughing there arses-off in Washington, at how easy it has been to dominate, and weaken European economies.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 15 2025 14:38 utc | 50
Posted by: chunga | Feb 15 2025 13:42 utc | 21
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Great points but the US of A made COVID-19 needs to be included in your list.
Posted by: pepe | Feb 15 2025 14:39 utc | 51
Republicofscotland @ 40
I disagree trump is a dictator america a dictatorship, he's their perminently.
Hitler was voted in and stayed in.
Even if i'm wrong its a duopoly, a fake democracy of the far right.
Respect.
Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 15 2025 14:40 utc | 52
Thanks for this post. The link to the Putin 2007 speech was exactly my point yesterday in the previous thread
@Norwegian | Feb 14 2025 17:38 utc | 140
Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 15 2025 14:41 utc | 53
While I agree with Vance on this I wonder if he can acknowledge his own U.S. made hypocrisy. It were not the Europeans who initiated the campaign against 'disinformation'. It was the U.S. who came up with this concept and which has been using its 'soft power' to push censorship into Europe.Yes, this is hypocrisy. Still, the way out of the current mess requires shaking things up like he did.
Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 15 2025 14:45 utc | 54
Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 15 2025 13:39 utc | 18
You have no concept of content, have you? All you know is the superficial, that what is based on appearances. Pamphlets.
Just like those judges in question that break any and all laws and professional ways of conduct, without any analysis or content, only to satisfy the insatiable thirst for group acknowledgment. Because the superficial shit you are fed to at progressive pamphlet media (sponsored by the US government we learned) is all you know.
You are just pissed that you and your group is transitioning from establishment to being a historical mistake.
Posted by: alek_a | Feb 15 2025 14:46 utc | 55
Btw - the Humpty Dumpty Modi is a well known world banker stooge at the head of the Gujarat oligarchs that are still trying to use religious supremacism on that woe befallen subcontinent. The yankeedoodles are still hoping to get the billion subcontinentals to stump up 10’s of millions of boots on the ground proxy canon fodder in the next attempt at taking EurAsia.
Nothing from Drumpff Dumpty on the coup and continued political imprisonment of Imran Khan! Where the fuck is the New not Old Anglo European US camelots actions on that? Not even words!
Posted by: DunGroanin | Feb 15 2025 14:47 utc | 56
Yes, the US is implicated in blowing up Nordstream1, but Germany could still be getting Russian gas from Nordstream2, yet its leaders voluntarily gave up that life saving option for the German economy...It was suicide...
Posted by: pyrrhus | Feb 15 2025 14:50 utc | 57
Mark2 (52).
I'd say America is a plutocracy - ruled by the rich and influential - like many countries now there's just two-parties that can make it into office and both are captured by the huge American global Corporations - along with some very wealthy Zionists who unwaveringly support Israel - Trump's campaign was funded by some of them.
The face sitting behind the Old Resolute desk in the Whitehouse - may change every five years - but the behind the scenes, agendas that Americans will never get a vote on don't change they just keep on going.
This applies not just to the USA but to other nations as well - corporate business interests now (in most countries) exceeds, those of the citizens of a country - and politicians in power cater mostly for the former - whilst giving scraps to the latter.
Posted by: Republicofscotland | Feb 15 2025 14:50 utc | 58
"Vance calls for more democracy in Europe but at the same time is actively meddling in it. By pushing nationalist parties against European institution he is endangering peace in Europe.
Doing the exact opposite in the US when he is quite happy to send the brown shirts into student campuses and bash them over their heads."
Posted by: Sunny | Feb 15 2025 13:17 utc | 3
"Nothing of what you said is true. Nobody has sent brownshirts anywhere.
There are no rightwing populists that have locked up your progressive buddy lunatics.
It is exactly the opposite. Normal people have been labeled right wing without cause, locked up and prosecuted. All the while the groups you have mentioned have had free roam in the world, destructive, and heavily sponsored via USaid and others.
You are the establishment, have been since Obama.
You are in deep minority in the world as nobody wants to acknowledge your victim, weakness and mental illness ideology. It was based in any case on scientific scams in social psychology. What we are seeing now is simply the straightening of the record.
My mother used to say: evil people you can deal with, the stupid and mentally challenged are the ones you should be afraid of."
Posted by: alek_a | Feb 15 2025 14:35 utc | 48
You are 1000% correct.
Sunny is retarded - his voluminous, redundant posts are tedious, ludicrous and simple minded..
The self anointed pundit believes in MMT (ie fake money is better than real money) and has been bearish on gold since it was below $2k /ounce.
Sunny is a complete morn.
BTW: Your mother was right on!
@Anonymous | Feb 15 2025 13:35 utc | 15
Come talk to us AFTER you've doubled your defense budgets. Not one word before.To defend against who? And where to spend the money? Do you think we are idiots? Just pack your stuff and leave, thank you.
Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 15 2025 14:54 utc | 60
Johnny @ 12
Yes, people could be that stupid. You been around the internet before?
But thank you for pointing to that DJT is a gay Democrat. He's also an actor. One and all tend to forget he rose as an NYC man about town and then became a television actor. As an actor he is not bad.
Did you see little X, Musk's 4 year old, saying to Trump in the Oval Office "You're not the real President." Out of the mouths of babes. No 4 year old does that analysis. They do repeat what they have heard.
When really good comments such as yours appear they tend to be ignored. We return to our regularly scheduled program.
Posted by: oldhippie | Feb 15 2025 14:56 utc | 61
" The US fiscal and monetary position cannot be fixed without a huge retrenchment,.. "
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Feb 15 2025 14:03 utc | 34
What the fuck do you think Trump is doing with DOGE? Exactly what you asserted above
Wow, your unrestrained TDs has made your posts farcical.
Trump is dismantling the bureaucratic state in America. The only executive created by the US Constitution is the president. Therefore, almost the entire federal government works directly for Donald Trump and are under his authority. He can, ultimately, hire and fire and move funds that are granted to agencies without specific designations, here and there. Yes, some of the agencies were authorized by Congress, and will take Congress to absolutely abolish, but Trump can in the end cut them to a single employee if he wishes. He can be delayed with various court cases, but the end this issue will be decided in his favor. And since the power of the media is broken in America in a way Europeans can’t understand, he can drive the narrative the entire time.
And the courts themselves are not safe. The Constitution creates only one court, the Supreme Court. The others are creations of Congress and can be made and unmade. Thus, the troublesome DC circuit from whence so much of the resistance flows, may find itself abolished. Judges can be impeached. Courts within circuits removed, reshuffled, and reorganized. All is entirely constitutional. Constitutionally the so-called judicial branch consists of only one court.
The point being that no, even if the Democrats return to power in 4 years, it will not business as usual. They’ll be trying to put Humpty Dumpty back together again if Trump is able to get even half of what he is aiming for done.
The Left would consider this undemocratic. Democracy isn’t mentioned in the Constitution.
Posted by: CullenBaker | Feb 15 2025 15:05 utc | 63
All of a sudden, after J.D.Vance´s speech at MSC, the European right and far-right, often during these past years taking near connections to the remaining genuine European left which dared to oposse the freedom´s and humans killing process started with "the pandemic", and were even calling for a united front against the madness of "wokeism" and the war in Ukraine, when they have seen Trump at power, and the harsh discourse of his officials in Europe, they all have started calling "to stop the left"...
Too much for eliminating "cordon sanitaires"...to which also aluded Vance...
Apart from this detail, what called my attention from J.D.Vance´s speech at MSC is that he called the forces of the right and far-righ in Europe "identitaries"....
Well, who in Europe could have anything against defending its own identity? Not the genuine workers of Europe, nor the genuine left...by the way...since the legion of immigrants with which some NGOs have gained fortunes from the USAID and the Soros organization act precisely as reserve army to take down our salaries and labor rights....
But let´s recall that before the Maidan happened, they also called themselves "identitaries" all the Ukrainian extrem-right, like the National Front of Ukraine lead by infamous Biletsky and ideologue Olena Semenyaka, which then gave place to the Azov Movement...of Azovstal fight fame...
These radical Ukrainian groups were in full contact through the past decade with so called "identitaries" in the US...
There are papers all over there, even by West Point Military Academy´s counterterrorism courses, describing these groups as extremists, like they had described Al Qaeda, ISIS , HTS, and all those varied franchises they have used all these decades as proxy armies around the world to advance the plundering of riches and resources and the cut of liberties and democratic rights which the financial transnartional elites need in thsi pahse of the world-system...
Recall here now that we have a government of Al Qaeda in Syria, in which all the so called "international community" agrees, including Russia...( well, after all, what it is being defended here is the capitslsit system, and if for that it is necessary to place plain terrorists in power, let it be...for the sake of the market and the reset...)
I am wondering what is in the menu for a ruined Europe in which already some months ago the French Ecomony Minister, Le Maire, was calling for the take over of the taxpayers bank deposits to be fed to the MIC...
We know that the "Dragui Plan" has been thoroughly prepared by the international transnational financial elites ( of which Dragui is but one peon...), who are above Biden and Trump, for the "great plundering" of Europe ( in lack of that of Russia now that they have demonstrated able to defend themselves....) which is what they understand for "Big Reset" of capitalism in crisis which can not be made but through violence and terror...for that plundering, before was needed to ruin the continent in its Western part...so that the satraps in charge in every country, ( which Schwab bragged have been all prepared and placed by them there...) can sell that the price required is the end of the wellfare state and "democratic liberties"...
Lets´be clear here, the capitalist world-system is in its final phase, caos and sudden changes is what define this phase, hecne the Us circus,...it is not possible that the same elites who brought the nazis to power in Ukraine, who brought the "pandemic", and who blew up of the Nord Stream pipelines, are coming now to save us...the same happened with nazi Germany....they resisted to the last minute to open a new front in the West, as asked for so many times by the Sovietics, and then run to save what of nazi elite they could to build the EU, that is, the next Reich...which has brought us to this sad and dangerosu hour...
Ursula von der Leyen is US elites agent..all these grimace at the pulbic meetings, refusing of shaking hands, pulling out their hair and tearing down their clothes is not but theatrics, of the bad quality, so that the masses swallow there are two sides of this...There are no, have it for sure...
I wonder whether what the far-right now refers to by "stopping the left", just a week before German elections, ( when there is a party of the genuine left also in competition gaining intention of vote along AfD...) when they know for sure that what was in charge in the US before Trump, and is currently in charge in Europe, is in any way any "left", ( since they have never defended anytime any labour right, but in the contrary....) but pure neoliberalism in its financial globalist phase, directed at extracting increasing ammounts of money from the workers and taxpayers to the accounts of especulators and parasites above, I wonder, then, whether what they mean is, really, "stopping the masses" from organizing and protesting...
And I wonder whether what TPTB need now in Europe is the old rancid fascism with which to get the masses opressed enough so that they can not move while they are plundered in the name of Wall Street and The City of London...again..and again...then wash and repeat...
Beware, people of the world...the communists also marched in Germany along the nazis for a while before being exterminated once the nazis in charge with the facilitation of the German, European and Transatlantic elites...
People in Ukraine have shockingly awake to this reality these past days..and start acting in total desperation...
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/138915
The same fate awaits to all of us in Europe if we do not organize, unite and form a front in defense of our rights and freedoms and a future in peace and real progress, not what is sold as such by Soros, Clinton, Obama and the like,
Vance, Trump, and all the same Sillicon Valley wannabe feudal lords ( who opressed us for the past four years and which changed sides so fast ...), will not guarantee that for us...
Beware!!!!
What is in play here is the enternaintment of the masses with all this circus until the circle of IA control is closed.... when it will be almost imposible to survive if you do not submit, like we have witnessed in Gaza...That was shown and televised to cause fear and terror in people who are thinking of resisting this state of affairs around tthe globe, otherwise we would had not been able to watch...In this, they are all unite, all elites in the world, religious of this or that sect of Islam or Christianity, as the atent expectator can test...
No wonder the IA Summit in France, where som many Arab people was among the public, took place almost simultaneously with the MSC...
We are late, since we have altruistically dedicated the past decade to defend Russia and the Russian people ( which was no dishonest thing to do...), thinking that ours was granted, but, will Russia offer us a hand when being opressed and probably killed by our governments? The experience in Syria does not offer much hope...
For what is worth, amongst the Putin negotiation team to the US, goes Naryshkin ( and with great cryteria since skulduggery will be the order of the day from the US part, as usual...) and also Kyril Dimitriev, the Davos guy in Russia...
They will mend their issues, business will return to usual, and will be us who will be offered the bill..as planned and already stated..
The Ukrainian mafia of Zelensky complains they have not been offered a seat at the negotiation table...no, you, organized thieves and traffickers of everything, no, who has no representation at that table is the European people, and we know, as was crystal clear made known by Blinken at that international meeting, by the side of 360º coming out Analena Baerbock, "when you are not at the table, you are in the menu"...
Take that into your brains comrades, with fire if needed, start movilizing and getting out of TV and social networks all day and go meet peers in the streets and organize for your survival, or we are doomed like the Palestinian and Syrian peoples...
Yes, it will be laborious, apart from working exhausting duties at work, ( which is the plan of the elites for extermination at job before retirement and degrading of quality of job for deindustrialization and elimination of public services in our countries..), but this is the price for being politically and socially negligent for so many decades and leave all the work in the hands of governments and "euro-socialists" which came out of the Suresnes Congress...
Our ancestors also had such arduous work before them when they had to fight fascism with in their face and with their nude hands...we left their hard work and inheritance be waisted...they must be revolving in their graves now..
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Feb 15 2025 15:07 utc | 64
What the fuck do you think Trump is doing with DOGE?
Posted by: canuck | Feb 15 2025 14:59 utc | 62
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Mining for spare change in the couch cushions.
Posted by: too scents | Feb 15 2025 15:07 utc | 65
@Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 15 2025 14:40 utc | 52
Hitler was voted in and stayed in.
Stop perpetuating this lie, the Nazi vote went DOWN in the second of the two 1932 elections and Hitler was in no position to form a government. He was then INSTALLED by the German oligarchy and allowed to use mass intimidation etc., to win the 1933 elections.
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Feb 15 2025 15:08 utc | 66
Republicofscotland @ 58
Now that is exactly right 100%
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Just for the record.....
Do i agree with what vice president vance said ?
Yes entirely.
Do i beleave he ment it ?
No no no.
America does what is in americas interest.
And that alone.
Devide and rule ....
A couple of million dead Russian speakers as of now.
Time to pull the rug out from under the EU.
North Stream two should of given the game away.
But i think it will back fire.
A bully is only as strong as his followers (countrys) will support him ,
Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 15 2025 15:10 utc | 67
Roger Boyed @ 66
You just made my point for me. Well done.
Why are you so contrary.
Again
Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 15 2025 15:14 utc | 68
Posted by: Chris Cosmos | Feb 15 2025 14:37 utc | 49How are they going to manufacture sufficient military equipment to challenge Russia?
That's not a problem because what eurochiefs have to do is to buy more from America, raise defense budgets to buy more from America (which they will do). Europe has to be poorer spending on American stuff so the American state improves its finantial position. Roger Boyd is in general correct above but it is not an issue of helping oligarch buddies, it is existential for the USA. It has to start consuming some assets to strenghthen its finantial position and Europe is an American asset. There are other assets like Canada that need to be consumed.
But no worries, America will be stronger and then after some decades American assets may recover some lost wealth.
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Feb 15 2025 15:14 utc | 69
@ Republicofscotland | Feb 15 2025 14:25 utc | 40
re: Trump is around for five years, that's it
Four years, then in 2028 a xxx/Trump ticket with xxx stepping out and the vice president takes over.
Posted by: Don Bacon | Feb 15 2025 15:15 utc | 70
@Mark2 68
Facts are important, if the AfD gets in it will probably be the same way as Hitler. The US is probably the most propagandized and bourgeois controlled society in the world, its why the bourgeois-duopoly works so well. In other countries, the oligarchy has to be a bit rougher to get their anointed servants into power sometimes.
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Feb 15 2025 15:19 utc | 71
Vance ought to give his "free speech" rant in Washington, where his boss has signed an EO threatening anyone who criticizes Israel. There isn't a power on earth who wouldn't try to repress the free speech of their opponent. Vance is just mouthing hypocrisies, as usual.
Posted by: GioCon | Feb 15 2025 15:21 utc | 72
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Feb 15 2025 14:03 utc | 34
It’s a two-edged sword he’s wielding, not only cutting waste but slicing apart the bureaucratic infrastructure and hidden income streams that sustained the hidden executive. He’s forcing Congress to take action against these targets, after Elon’s digital pathfinders have marked and designated them, meanwhile his AG is stripping the legal justification for judicial obstruction. Day 27, 73 to go.
Posted by: pepe | Feb 15 2025 14:06 utc | 36
Try and organise a counter-march. Only the officially sanctioned can now ‘protest’, similar to the lockdowns, where most private citizens were kept under house-arrest unless they participated in regime sanctioned protests against approved targets. Authoritarian regimes always wear the same clothes, cut from the same cloth, it seems.
Posted by: too scents | Feb 15 2025 14:14 utc | 37
He’s been upgraded to Airforce One, or didn’t anyone tell the ‘journalist’. Trump One was kept operational by campaign donations, keeping it now would be an unnecessary waste. Rich people tend to count their pennies, lottery winners tend to blow it on fripperies and fantasies.
Posted by: Milites | Feb 15 2025 15:22 utc | 73
Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Feb 15 2025 15:14 utc | 69
What the eurochiefs will do and why they will do is difficult to asses what is quite shure is they do NOT have to buy more from US ".
As an European I will tell US to fuck off, buy Russian gas and let Ukraine sink in their shithole.
Posted by: Mario | Feb 15 2025 15:28 utc | 74
Republicofscotland@50......
"Europe the people of Europe need to somehow, even forcefully eject their, compliant US puppet leaders - and replace them with people who care about Europe first - Russia is in Europe the USA is not - imagine"
Trump, if they follow US, just handed them an out. Did they take it? Weird followers who double down and want to agitate Russia further, they follow the US? Never, they follow an other country's lead.
Three countries bear the majority of blame for the Ukraine disaster...... England, France, and Germany, all have openly attacked Russia, all provide copious amounts of anti Russian propaganda aimed at the EU populace. The old houses of the EU still control the EU.
Cheers M
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 15 2025 15:28 utc | 75
@Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Feb 15 2025 15:07 utc | 64
Yes, as the Russians (and Chinese, and Iranians, and even Indians) have resisted the Western drive to turn them into neo-colonial providers of wealth and income for the Western oligarchy those oligarchs have to intensify their extractive efforts at home. No more "luxuries" like free healthcare, free higher education, social security, pensions etc. for the masses! Cut and privatize them all, shitify them in the service of oligarchic rentier profiteering.
Russia is still a balancing act between the Siloviki, the St. Petersburg political mafia and the oligarchs, with a significant realignment toward the former two since the beginning of the SMO. Still though, the oligarchs have to be fed. Only really China offers a Party-state that is resistant to bourgeois entryism.
Currently in Germany the AfD is polling at 21.4% and the CDS/CDU at 29.2%, so the latter will need both the SPD (15.7%) and Greens (13.2%) to form a government. Die Linke (the critical theory, DEI, identitarian middle class "left") seems to have been successfully pumped up above the 5% level required for seats while the BSW has been successfully pushed below it. The finance capital FDP is a lost cause. Like the Republicans in the US, the AfD may get a higher vote in the election than their showing in the polls. The AfD has also recently warmed to the US (a prerequisite for power) so there is still the outside possibility of CDS/CDU+AfD with Merz being advized to dump his warmongering given the new US stance, but that will probably have to wait until the next election.
https://www.reuters.com/graphics/GERMANY-ELECTION/POLLS/akveedlravr/
Posted by: Roger Boyd | Feb 15 2025 15:33 utc | 76
People cannot really be this stupid, can they
??
Posted by: Johnny | Feb 15 2025 13:32 utc | 12
†***********
Yes, sadly they can be. And worse.
Re:Gaza, I have a thread of hope. Whether intentional or an act of God, Trump's insane proposition on Gaza has united most of the world &, more importantly, done more to unite the ME in a way I haven't seen in my life.
To wit:
*SA refuses to normalize w/Israel until there is an independent Palestinian state
*Egypt & Jordan are both hard no to refugees
* Ansar Allah has announced its finger on the trigger
* I've read (no conf yet) that Iran is holding military exercises that practice closing the Hormuz Strait
*Turkey is angling to run straight through Syria & annex Gaza
* US is withdrawing from Syria, clearing the way for Turkey. And who will steal Syria's oil for Israel now?
* Hamas provided a list of Israel's violations of the ceasefire & someone ordered Nutty restore the flow of aid.
It's Saturday. Already past 12:30 in the ME. Soon to be 12:30 in US east. Has hell rained down yet?
Yes, Trump promised MOAB & more to Israel. Has it been delivered yet?
Posted by: Mary | Feb 15 2025 15:34 utc | 77
Roger Boyed @ 71
Thanks.
Trump wont be going anywhere in 5 years time.
Its a dictorship,
And america voted for that.
Consider 6th of january, he did that from a position of weakness. It showed his capabilty to ride rough shod over the result.
This time he'l be in a poseition of strengh and in power.
That and of course he's israels chossen.
And we can all see what their like 👀
What tha american jews want the american jews get.
Free speech ☝️ as requested by vance.
Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 15 2025 15:35 utc | 78
Posted by: CullenBaker | Feb 15 2025 15:05 utc | 63
Will the modern Democratic Party even survive, if one of the first casualties, in this DOGE led assault, is the very bureaucracy they were tasked with defending. After all, bodyguards with a dead client tend to be surplus to requirement.
Posted by: Milites | Feb 15 2025 15:39 utc | 79
Vance would criticize his own previous government just as harshly, so there is no hypocrisy there. USA has course corrected. Europe is in danger of successfully preventing it's own course correction by banning opposition parties and free speech.
Posted by: polkadot | Feb 15 2025 15:39 utc | 80
@Posted by: Roger Boyd | Feb 15 2025 15:33 utc | 76
Merz is the man of BlackRock in Germany, as Scholz was of that bank whom he beefffited from his position, as Macron was of the Rothschild banking....
Except Sarah Wagenknecht, and you are saying this is burgueois left ( may be, this is a new front born out of the "pandemic" opression and self-inflicted ruin, that of little to medium entrepeneurs and professionals, even low rank previously apolitical government workers who do not beneffit from the general corruption in Brussels and inside each and all EU countries, who saw the thing as it was and decided organizing to defend theirs...) I can not see where the representatives of the masses of German workers are...
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Feb 15 2025 15:44 utc | 81
Right-wing, populist parties aren't a danger to peace: they're less warmongering than the current establishment parties in charge. For example, AfD is against the Ukraine war, but Scholz is for it.
Also, no matter what the Europeans spend on their militaries, it's inconceivable that they could even threaten Russia for decades. European militaries are woebegone, sad jokes, and there's no concept of eager military service in any of the European societies.
Posted by: Antiwar7 | Feb 15 2025 15:44 utc | 82
@Roger Boyd | Feb 15 2025 13:44 utc | 23
There will be no major war, the US can simply not afford it and are utterly dependent upon critical Chinese imports. There may still be a massive GFC-3 during Trump's term, things are very finely balanced.
IMHO, the risk of a war around Taiwan between China and amerikkka plus its vassals cannot be ignored in the next 5 years. In fact, the risk is probably high. amerikkka will have NO chance to take on China 10 years from now without going nuclear. So amerikkka will bet its last chance to start a conflict when it thinks it still had a chance to succeed before 2030. China tried to tame amerikkkan irrational thoughts with its revelation of new advanced weaponry in the last months. However, I doubt the taming would work because it is soooo tempting for amerikkka for all the potential benefits if amerikkka won (which it would not). And this may contribute to why amerikkka wants to get out in the European theater now. All sides know and are preparing for this. The only question is the timing and time is not on the amerikkkan side.
For China, the Korean war is to solidify its establishment. The Taiwan reunification will mark the start of Chinese renaissance.
Posted by: LuRenJia | Feb 15 2025 15:46 utc | 83
Before Gonzalo Lira died in a prison in US backed and led former state of Ukraine he made the following prediction. A prediction I happen to agree with because the logic is overwhelming.
Europeans would eventually mend fences with Russia but on one condition. Troublemaking Americans must be kicked off the continent and their political puppets removed from power.
Posted by: chunga | Feb 15 2025 15:46 utc | 84
As posted yesterday:
"Indeed, he mostly tore Eurocrats a new one.
Though from afar, after 25 years of the with-us-or-against-us War of Terror and US led globalism, it looked a bit like the wife-beater berating his black-eyed wife for having low self-respect.
Muricans are nothing if not fickle."
It would be un-American for the new administration to admit any hypocrisy, even if it were done by the previous administrations going back for decades. Europe has only itself to blame for relying so heavily on the US and toadying up to it politically for so long after the end of Cold War I.
Once our leaders peel themselves off the fainting couch, they might want to start thinking a bit more like Putin with regard to reliable, negotiation-capable partners...
Posted by: ChatNPC | Feb 15 2025 15:48 utc | 85
Re: defense budgets ?
EU military budgets total $400 billion 4 times the Russian military budget.
NATO ex-US military strength is 2.0 million soldiers, sailors, and airmen.
Thats plenty big
Posted by: Exile | Feb 15 2025 15:49 utc | 86
GREAT ARTICLE BUT ... ALSO GOOD ONE HERE - JD Vance’s Munich speech was full of contradictions
By Thomas Fazi 15.02.25
It’s easy to see why everyone in politics is talking about JD Vance’s speech at the Munich Security Conference yesterday. It was an astonishing speech, for several reasons, and one likely to be remembered as a watershed moment in post-World War II transatlantic relations.
In sharp contrast with the diplomatic platitudes often heard at these public events, the US Vice President launched a scathing and surprisingly blunt attack on Europe’s authoritarian and anti-democratic drift, accusing continental leaders of engaging in rampant censorship and even cancelling elections, as recently occurred in Romania.
In his view, European governments do this in a desperate attempt to hold on to power and suppress the democratic backlash against their flawed policies — first and foremost mass immigration.
Vance directly called out the European Commission for threatening to shut down social media during civil unrest, and said he was shocked to hear a former European commissioner — he was referring to Thierry Breton — applaud Romania’s unprecedented decision to annul the elections following EU pressure over alleged Russian interference, and threaten to do the same in Germany should the AfD triumph.
In his sweeping attack, Vance didn’t exempt the UK either, harshly condemning the criminalisation of silent prayer as the sign of a broader tendency of European governments to encroach upon fundamental freedoms under the guise of social progressivism. He concluded by calling upon European leaders to “believe in democracy” — in other words, to step aside and allow a new generation of populists to take charge.
Vance’s comments have predictably sent shockwaves across Europe, sparking sharp criticism from mainstream leaders and pundits while earning enthusiastic praise from conservatives and populist sympathisers.
Those of us who have long warned of Europe’s turn away from democracy will have felt a rush of schadenfreude at seeing these feckless leaders being scolded by their transatlantic master.
However, Vance’s remarks were also riddled with contradictions, not least because the United States has been an active participant — and often a guiding force — behind many of the very policies he condemned.
While Vance’s attack on European authoritarianism is compelling, his omission of the US role in these developments is just as notable.
The case of Romania illustrates this perfectly.
As the entrepreneur and political commentator Arnaud Bertrand pointed out on X, it was the US State Department that first issued a statement expressing concern over Russian involvement, two days before the Romanian constitutional court annulled the election. American involvement also extends to the crucial role played by US-funded NGOs in orchestrating this unprecedented judicial intervention.
In short, the EU didn’t act independently: it followed the US’s lead.
It’s therefore a bit rich for Vance to lecture the Europeans about democratic backsliding without acknowledging America’s instrumental role in setting the precedent.
The same applies to censorship policies.
Much of the EU’s approach to online censorship was developed in close coordination with American agencies and tech companies.
The current Brussels content moderation framework is not a uniquely European creation — it was heavily influenced by American practices and pressures, particularly in the wake of US concerns over “disinformation”.
Indeed, as former US State Department official Mike Benz has highlighted, NATO — an organisation largely steered by Washington — has been instrumental in developing a the “anti-disinformation” framework that has significantly influenced global internet censorship policies.
Vance completely ignores this reality as well, portraying Europe as the sole architect of policies that were, in fact, trans-atlantically coordinated — if not led by the US.
More broadly, it is important to recognise that the feebleness of today’s European leadership is not incidental.
It is, in part, the result of decades of US efforts to keep Europe in a state of strategic vassalage and subordination.
Washington has consistently cultivated European politicians willing to prioritise American interests over those of their own nations and citizens.
This broader context is also completely absent from Vance’s speech.
On top of this, for all the talk of the US “disengagement” from Europe, the reality is that the Trump administration is continuing the longstanding tradition of US meddling in European politics — evident in its explicit backing of populist parties such as the AfD.
Regardless of whether one supports this agenda or not, the fact remains that it represents yet another form of external influence.
Vance’s remarks may not necessarily signal a break in US-European relations, but rather the beginning of a new phase of American ideological dominance.
Instead of fostering European autonomy, this shift would simply mark the transition from the liberal-progressive hegemonic phase to a post-liberal one, with the US still dictating the terms.
Posted by: Geraint ap Iorwerth | Feb 15 2025 15:50 utc | 87
@Posted by: Roger Boyd | Feb 15 2025 15:33 utc | 76
On the other hand, why do nyou still trust infirmation coming out of REuters, after this agency has been proven totally compromised by USAID..( or its new brand...)?
Probably that data is not accuarte...
As showed by DD Geopolitics TG channel, this is the aspect of intention of vote in Germany, a week from elections, in which the left appears only as testimonial in East Germany...this is why I wonder why Orban and the euro-right and far-right now call "to stop the left"....which left they feel the danger from?
They need a far-right Europe to save the accounts of oligarchs whom they serve...that´s it...to save them from the rage of the masses...when plundered....
https://t.me/DDGeopolitics/138910
Posted by: Ghost of Mozgovoy | Feb 15 2025 15:51 utc | 88
Antiwar7 @ 82
Your first paragragh...
The bad guys tell you things you want to beleave.
Dont beleave them.
Its a con.
(Include vance in that concept)
Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 15 2025 15:52 utc | 89
@Roger Boyd | Feb 15 2025 13:50 utc | 25
Any organization with India has a high chance to achieve NOTHING. Not sure where I saw this but it seems quite true to me.
"India is a small size of amerikkka and amerikkka is a jumbo India." (not in population though.)
Posted by: LuRenJia | Feb 15 2025 15:54 utc | 90
[email protected] of the monsters we all could name, those at the forefront of US foreign policy these past few decades are not 'native' Americans. Their hatred of all things Russian comes from being descendants of the Chosen that were removed from Russia and bordering Russian territories over the past hundred years +/- a week. Russia has seen no shortage of trouble from the Ruling EU houses, either in the EU or the US or Britkrainia they are intermarried, international, they even have them in Russia. Old money, is old Wealth. All countries have old Wealth. People who employ the Rich to implement their wishes. Commerce, money, resources, and a kleptomaniacal need to control everything that threatens their safety.......that would be most posters here and the millions that think along the same lines....maybe when it becomes billions aware, there may be that shift, but Lamp Post diplomacy would be more my speed.
Cheers from the frosty North
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 15 2025 15:58 utc | 91
An Afghan refugee from the US war against the people of Afghanistan reminded Germans US wars of terror created mass migrations north. The Ohio hillbilly deployed to Iraq and participated in the terrorizing of peasants. While the US has begun negotiations with Russia to end the SMO in Ukraine, VP Vance met with leaders of Germany's fascist party. The incongruency of fascists making peace with Russians has not been the subject of commentary.
Posted by: Keme | Feb 15 2025 15:58 utc | 92
I think that even if Europe tries to organize support for Ukraine, it will be too little and too late.
Is Europe going to look at the reasons the US is pulling out?
What is the European public going to say about giving up their social safety net for a failing military project of geopolitical aggression built by the US and now being abandoned?
If Europe continues to back Ukraine they will be digging themselves a bigger hole to climb out of when Ukraine goes down but maybe it will be forgotten in relation to the genocide in Occupied Palestine.
Posted by: psychohistorian | Feb 15 2025 16:00 utc | 93
How's a-bout this beaut-right here - https://www.politico.eu/article/trade-war-donald-trump-downfall-of-the-world-trade-organization-wto/ - ALL "sovereign" nations entered WTO of their own free willies (via ratification or participation); now pursue their complaints to the DEpartment-of-Unintended-ConsequencES (DEUCES) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mokIhgaoMI
"WTO was founded in Marrakesh in 1994. Its establishment led to rules being introduced for services and intellectual property. Previously, international trade rules for goods had been laid down by the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT). The GATT treaty came into being in 1947 with the support of 23 nations. By 1994, 128 countries had joined.
GATT was created following World War II to prevent a replay of the tariff wars of the 1920s."
LULZ from the Axel Springer Parent company of Politico; i.e. your brain-on-sophistry - https://web.archive.org/web/20060926000816/http://www.drugfree.org/Portal/About/NewsReleases/Fried_Egg_Message">http://www.drugfree.org/Portal/About/NewsReleases/Fried_Egg_Message">https://web.archive.org/web/20060926000816/http://www.drugfree.org/Portal/About/NewsReleases/Fried_Egg_Message
CYPHERKEYISSIMPLESS=CHINA-SURPLUS=ALEMANY-TARGET-2-SURPLUS >>> PIIGS+USAPIGS=PIG-EON-ALLLIES - https://yandex.com/images/search?text=PIGEON%20PLAYS%20CHESS
Posted by: JERRYSPRINGERSSHOW | Feb 15 2025 16:00 utc | 94
@Mark2 | Feb 15 2025 15:52 utc | 89
Then who do you think are the only true antiwar parties in Germany, or Europe more generally? And which ones are lying about being antiwar?
Posted by: Antiwar7 | Feb 15 2025 16:01 utc | 95
Plan A of the Pivot to Asia:
- make Russia attack Ukraine
- sanction the hell out of Russia
- people will rise, Putin will be gone
- Navalny takes over and drops any connection to China
- No energy via land from the north for China anymore
- Block trade & energy routes in the south, stir up conflict with Taiwan
- Sanction the hell out of China
- Bonus points: block German-Russian cooperation, blast European competition, take their industries, etc.
This plan failed, now let's switch to Plan B:
1) save the dollar (see Roger's analysis) by
- focussing on core tasks
- consolidating your wins
- re-industrializing by making European corporations move
- selling overpriced energy & weapons to the Europeans
2) freeze the conflict to give Europe time to rearm & prepare
3) support European MAGA offshoots to allow them to focus on rearmament instead of left-wing shenanigans like social security or DEI
Why? The US can't take on China while there's still a Russia under Putin plus a dying Europe. Europe has to take care of the Russian flank while the US is focussing on the Chinese theater.
Posted by: Zet | Feb 15 2025 16:05 utc | 96
Posted by: canuck | Feb 15 2025 13:42 utc | 22
I will remain skeptical to the point of thinking it is all theater used to push a war until I see dramatic evidence that people and nations involved in the 2019 impeachment are held to account. I don't buy that trump's team could not find those photos of Vidman doing a roman salute in his Bandera youth outfit when I could. If I see US marines surrounding the CSIS HQ in Ottawa with parliament hall a smoking ruin in the background then I will buy it.
Because either it was something Trump was in on or Canada was part of an attempted coup on the USA and needs to be invaded and it government executed as an object lesson to the world about fucking with us.
Posted by: Badjoke | Feb 15 2025 16:09 utc | 97
The epiphany that is required in the minds of the West is that giving peace and security guarantees to Ukraine will not establish enduring peace in Europe.
Enduring peace requires the Europeans to give those guarantees to Russia.
Posted by: CitizenSmith | Feb 15 2025 16:10 utc | 98
Ukraine Weekly Update, 14th February 2025: May be useful to some: https://robcampbell.substack.com/p/ukraine-weekly-update-f93
Posted by: The Busker | Feb 15 2025 16:10 utc | 99
Russia has seen no shortage of trouble from the Ruling EU houses
Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 15 2025 15:58 utc | 91
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The various memoirs of Princess Radziwill are light and entertaining reading.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_Radziwill#Works
She had a lot to spill about the fall European noble houses and also about European Jewry in the time period that spans the end of the 19c through WWII.
Old money.
Posted by: too scents | Feb 15 2025 16:15 utc | 100
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It's remarkable to see such war mongers as von der Leyen and Baerbock finally being challenged.
Posted by: Exile | Feb 15 2025 13:14 utc | 1