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February 17, 2025
U.S. Questions For European Governments – Another Wake-up Call

U.S. Vice President JD Vance has held up a mirror to Europe's 'elite' which did not like to acknowledge what could be seen in it: Minions, a lot of minions.

"But our common values?" cried Christoph Heusgen, the chairman of the Munich Security Conference.

What values Mr. Heusgen? Those displayed daily, with your applause, by the European colonists in Palestine?

"Like a headless chicken," is what the German broadsheet Frankfurter Allgemeine called the reaction of Chancellor Olaf Scholz. The descriptions fits to (nearly) all European leader.

Today U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio will meet Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov in Saudi Arabia. They will talk like grownups, EU be damned, and find ways to achieve peace in Ukraine and elsewhere.

The Europeans are aghast that they are not invited to take part in the talks.

But why would one invite parties to peace talks when they want nothing more than to sabotage those? The EU's foreign representative Kaja Kallas, a former mayor of Baltic villages, dreams of breaking up Russia into smaller states. How could Russia ever seriously negotiate with such people?

Today the Europeans will huddle in Paris to find some, any, way to get out of the mess. It won't work unless they acknowledge that the war in Ukraine has been lost.

The U.S. has recognized that there aren't enough troops, money or will to achieve a better negotiation position for what's left of Ukraine. The European 'elite' still fails to get that.

Any prolongation of the war will lead to more losses of land to Russia. Will it take the fall of Odessa for the Europeans to be finally ready for talks?

There are still dreams of 'security guarantees' which would be given to Ukraine after it files for peace or surrenders.

No such guarantees would make any sense. When peace is achieved there will be only one manner that can prevent a new outbreak of war: good behavior towards Russians and Russia by what will be left of Ukraine.

Failing that no European battalions strewn over Ukraine could prevent or even hinder another special military operation.

The U.S. negotiation team handed the Europeans a list of questions that will hopefully help them to come to grips with that:

The United States has sent European governments a set of questions about what they would need from the U.S. in order to provide Ukraine with security guarantees.

A U.S. State Department spokesperson said that Washington "has been clear that we expect European partners to take the lead in establishing a durable security framework and look forward to their proposals."

Here are the questions with answers by me in Italic:

1) What do you view as a Europe-backed security guarantee or assurance that would serve as a sufficient deterrent to Russia while also ensuring this conflict ends with an enduring peace settlement?

There is no Europe-backed guarantee possible that would be a 'sufficient deterrent'.

2) Which European and/or third countries do you believe could or would participate in such an arrangement?

Each could provide a few dozen soldiers (plus rotations). None has the size of forces and/or stamina to really commit to the mission.

Are there any countries you believe would be indispensable?

The U.S. – if it would give nuclear guarantees to prevent the eventual annihilation of any 'security guarantee' force.

Would your country be willing to deploy its troops to Ukraine as part of a peace settlement?

No!

3) If third country military forces were to be deployed to Ukraine as part of a peace arrangement, what would you consider to be the necessary size of such a European-led force?

500,000 men, i.e. about the same size as the Russian forces in that theater.

How and where would these forces be deployed and for how long?

No idea. Any stationary deployment would be open to a Russian surprise attack. A forever roving force is thinkable but not practicable.

4) What actions do U.S., allies and partners need to be prepared to take if Russia attacks these forces?

Nuke Russia and risk being nuked back.

5) What, if any, U.S. support requirements would your government consider necessary for its participation in these security arrangements?

Nukes and the will to use them. Plus satellite based intelligence to have at least some warning.

Specifically, which short-term and long-term resources do you think will be required from the U.S.?

See above.

6) What additional capabilities, equipment and maintenance sustainment options is your government prepared to provide to Ukraine to improve its negotiating hand and increase pressure on Russia?

Never ending bickering.

I am sure the questions above, as cited by Reuters, are not meant to really be answered.

They are supposed to induce some realist thinking.

Applying such one will come to the conclusion that nothing but a long term peace agreement, which does not necessitate 'guarantees', makes any sense.

Comments

Here’s a basic finance question.
Posted by: Trubind1 | Feb 18 2025 14:59 utc | 398

Here is a basic Arctic cooperation question. How many icebreakers does the USA have? And how many does Russia have? Of those how many are nuclear powered?
Anything the USA has to offer in the Arctic can be bettered by China.
So the finance question becomes “why should Russia lose money dealing with the USA compared to the same deal with China?”

Posted by: too scents | Feb 18 2025 15:08 utc | 401

@ Roger Boyd
I am a long-time NC reader and avid (if diminishing) fan of that website, but was absolutely appalled at Yves’ conduct regarding your exchange and even before that was wondering if she is not adapting well to her move and perhaps on edge.
It is unfortunate and I doubt if NC will be viable if she persists in turning off comments and berating posters she disagrees with.

Posted by: WhatAboutBob | Feb 18 2025 15:15 utc | 402

Russians make money, save it and then do things with their earned money.
Evidently, you are too dumb or too brainwashed to grasp this simple idea.
Posted by: Rutte | Feb 18 2025 15:07 utc | 400
Add to that government issued/subsided loans with much more reasonable rates (3~4%) for a lots of peoples ; business starters , young couples with children or awaiting some , companies investment projects in Russia and so on …
But the Russian society on itself don’t use credit much. Even corporate lease are not as used as elsewhere. A kind of tradition I suppose, during the 90’s rates were often above the 20% mark… and most of those loans were issued by “shady people”, just after communism it was the “booster dose” for vaccinating a population against loans.

Posted by: Savonarole | Feb 18 2025 15:28 utc | 403

@ Urban Fox | Feb 18 2025 4:33 utc | 279
Armstrong has some interesting stories to tell about his experiences interacting with the BOD level of the US gov and central bank systems worldwide. He’s been around a long time. His story about bringing the new US president, in 2000, up to speed is amusingly tragic. He was told, “This one is different, dumb.” He met and advised soon-to-be installed US presidents for a long time, at the request of the puppetmasters,.We are fortunate imo that some of these people are still alive to tell their stories.
I find it interesting that he thinks the US neocons still have strong control of the EU via NATO. Gladio II probably on their agenda, using a panoply of ‘unconventional’ tactics to create an enemy and blame peacemakers.

Posted by: suzan | Feb 18 2025 15:36 utc | 404

If they do anything joint in the Arctic, the sale of Alaska to America will prove fortuitous.
If Trump can somehow wrest British Columbia and the Yukon from Canada, a highway or railroad from the American mainland will be possible, and maybe Snowpiercer style, a railroad to Russia.
Not saying this will happen, merely pointing out what is possible.
It is clear that most of the commenters have never negotiated anything.
This is like building a Jenga tower or a house of cards. Slowly, slowly, each step adding to the foundation for the next.
Not everything is going to have a price or immediate return. Each side wants the other side to feel like the deal is in their interest, of which Russia’s pride and Trump’s ego are important factors.
Arctic cooperation is forward looking. Any deal is about the future, not the past. The payoff for such a deal will not be seen in Putin or Trump’s lifetimes.
I’d assume that Middle East politics will play a role in the talks as well.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 18 2025 15:44 utc | 405

Professor Glenn Diesen has collected quotes and video clips that will become very helpful in future tribunals, following the end of the war in Ukraine:
NATO’s Strategy for a Long War in Ukraine – Prof. Glenn Diesen

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 18 2025 15:45 utc | 406

O/T
@294 peter
“A question for those of you who debate usury in past times
-How was inflation debated in that context?”
As far as I am aware, the discussion tended to appear not as prices rising but instead of as of money being devalued. More broadly inflation was approached as of failure of supply of goods (say drought, confiscation etc.).
The correlation of increasing money supply causing higher prices was known however. Those who artificially increased the supply of money could claim goods by raising the offer on them, causing competition and so price rises.
They were very aware of the fuller context of this reality hence, which is why for the public money widely remained valued for whatever real content it contained more than its face value. The face value tended to be tied to taxation or obliged use of that coinage. Token systems (say copper based) were found not to be functional (enforceable) outside of any particular administrative system.
So the debate was more philosophical, or of questions of fairness.
The modern debate, seeing as fiat is de jure owned by the central banks (you are using their money, you don’t own the coin or note) , and that fiat is largely based on public debt recoverable by taxation…is somewhere else … no one seems to know where really except that it involves who can (come up with/make up a reason to) get their hands on the most money, or hold the most say over/from it ?
In that system though, managing (rigging) inflation appears as the chosen guiding constraint for ensuring a wider economic, social or financial stability.
When people talk now, they just talk of inflation (and employment), as it is representation of how much they are able to afford, more broadly of “how things are going”.
Hence also the resets or changes of system, when the most has been able to be made out of one particular form of management, or when a new one offers greater ability or returns. Those are often on a long scale, many decades for example.

Posted by: Ornot | Feb 18 2025 15:52 utc | 407

Gladio II probably on their agenda, using a panoply of ‘unconventional’ tactics to create an enemy and blame peacemakers.
Posted by: suzan | Feb 18 2025 15:36 utc | 404

The contact line of Western influence has moved beyond the region of their cultural hegemony. Gladio worked because it was exercised within the culture of the existing imperium. The same type of operation doesn’t work so well on peoples that are historically the subjects of empire.
The front line of economic extraction has moved beyond the productive workforce of old empires. Those old empire citizens are being left to wither on the vine. Hence the magic power of MAGA, and also the panic in the EUC.
Extractive forces are now faced with new challenges. Their old toolkit is looking rather obsolete.

Posted by: too scents | Feb 18 2025 15:52 utc | 408

Savonarole@403…..rates of interest, and who gets to set them is the issue. Financial deregulation in favour of certain groups over others is the issue.
A 20% rate is obnoxious, pure usury in the hands of unscrupulous lenders. A government subsidized loan, hmm, 3-4% sounds respectable. My government subsidized loan was issued through one of their lending institutions, my best rate ever 2.2%…..for me, I’m not hung up on scriptures, that was a fair and equitable return to the nice people who loaned me money to build a house I now own…..only the house, should I fail to pay the property taxes, I’d have to pick my home up and move it to another piece of land that I would be required to pay taxes on…..or sell the place. Pretty sure it’s similar world wide, regarding property taxes. Ownership; anyone who owns the deed to their house, that’s how it’s done legally in the west, should read the wording on it. If you are listed as owner, you own the land, if you are listed a tenant, then you don’t own the land……tenants are renters, hence the property taxes, or as me Da would say “your ground rates.”
Cheers M
….their lending institutions are Banks, all bank risk is underwritten by the Government, bankruptcy for banks was solved by Tax payer bail outs ….thats here in Canada, can’t see any other country passing up revenue from ground rates….

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 18 2025 15:53 utc | 409

Many people like to talk about the Art of the Deal but do not understand what that is.
Trump likes to take a simple negotiation and make it grand. He doesn’t do quick, one page deals. He’s going to make this deal as large and complex that Russia will feel like it is losing out if they don’t do it.
Unlike Trump’s usual negotiating partners, people from the East can strike a hard bargain and resist the siren song of Trump’s grand vision. The Russians (from what I saw of the men who arrived in Riyadh) can win a staring match if it takes hours.
These are hard serious men behaving as though the weight of the entire Russian civilization is on their shoulders.
And maybe it is.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 18 2025 15:56 utc | 410

Many people like to talk about the Art of the Deal but do not understand what that is.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 18 2025 15:56 utc | 410

Trump (and the Western Empire) has a busted hand and everybody except true believers knows it.
He is only bluffing fools.

Posted by: too scents | Feb 18 2025 16:05 utc | 411

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 18 2025 15:44 utc | 405
Railway talk was already in the picture.
There was talks during his 1st administration. A plan of action/joint venture with the Alberta government. A Railway from Midwest USA, to Edmonton up to Northwest territories cut across the Yukon to Alaska.
Problem was the northern territories.. Federal jurisdiction.

Posted by: heavymetal101 | Feb 18 2025 16:08 utc | 412

Posted by: too scents | Feb 18 2025 16:05 utc | 411
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Never underestimate an opponent. It is often fatal to do so.
Also, you’re a very good commmenter. Try to limit emotion. Your analysis will benefit when you are dispassionate.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 18 2025 16:10 utc | 413

LoveDonbass@410….the only thing missing is the wee hard men staring each other down over a MMA podium…..spare the melodrama. They’ll meet, they’ll discuss and there will be diplomacy, Lavrov’s there, both parties have sent the adults.
Cheers M
Staring contests….really?

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 18 2025 16:14 utc | 414

You’ve now made your “place at the table” argument at least five times in rapid succession.
For the love of Christ STOP SPAMMING.
Posted by: malenkov | Feb 18 2025 14:12 utc | 379
Hear, Hear! Or do you need us to tell you five times?

Posted by: Vragtes | Feb 18 2025 16:16 utc | 415

Posted by: heavymetal101 | Feb 18 2025 16:08 utc | 412
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Alberta cannot act without federal permission. And the federal government is subservient to the Crown.
Canada is not a sovereign country.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 18 2025 16:16 utc | 416

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 18 2025 16:14 utc | 414
###########
Shush.
The adults are talking.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 18 2025 16:17 utc | 417

It’s all rather dull, “Talks Commence”. More might become available later if a readout of Lavrov’s interaction with the press is reported by MFA. I haven’t bothered looking for what the Americans have said since their readouts have been very sparse, as with the Rubio-Lavrov phone call. Macron’s pow-wow in Paris accomplished nothing other than proving the Europeans have nothing to contribute but their obstinance.

Posted by: karlof1 | Feb 18 2025 16:27 utc | 418

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 18 2025 15:45 utc | 406
Thanks. Good archive of a timeline of Western losers and their foolish declarations.
However, he presented ukrops as totally innocent bystanders manipulated by the West. Not a mention of their fanatic anti-russian transformation, their fascists affinities, or they unashamedly begging for a bigger war with NATO involved with boots on the ground that would’ve wrecked Europe.
All those Western fools presented in the video, DEI hires and old apparatchik, was pretty much run-of-the-mill warmongering and business.
Whereas ukrops, these imbeciles and their corrupt leaders went insane Russophobes, insane in the membrane, as Cypress Hill rappers would put it.
So I found Dr. Diesen account useful but severely incomplete. Most of the people to be tried are in the Ukraines.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Feb 18 2025 16:31 utc | 419

LoveDonbass@416…..”Canada is not sovereign”……stop scaring the children…..lol
Cheers M
In Canada, from a legislative legal point of view, the individual Provincial Premiers have more power than the Prime Minister. The Crown set it up that way, divided, conquered.

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 18 2025 16:34 utc | 420

Neo-con ‘splodey head alert!
https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/negotiations-with-the-devil-begin/?lctg=5627bb9b17893fa0178b5197&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=MJ_20250218&utm_term=Jolt-Smart
“negotiations with the devil” … having a bad day, are we, Jim? Maybe all that deep-state propaganda about Ukraine shooting down 88% of Russian missiles rotted your brains out.
Be careful out there … there is a risk of flying cerebellum and shattered skull bone pieces falling from the sky. Wear protective eyewear and a hat!

Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 18 2025 16:39 utc | 421

@Johan Kaspar | Feb 18 2025 16:31 utc | 419
Incomplete, yes. But Diesen is focusing on western manipulation here, the main instigators.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 18 2025 16:42 utc | 422

Were liveing in historical times, witnessing ….
‘geopolitical tectonic plates shifting’ (copyright mark)
please ration your comments ‘less is more’
I find that my highly highly valuable and relivent comments get diluted. Like spoiling a good single malt with too much water.

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 18 2025 16:42 utc | 423

@Johan Kaspar | Feb 18 2025 16:31 utc | 419
Notice how Kellogg is exposed.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 18 2025 16:44 utc | 424

Typo
(Copyright mark2)

Posted by: Mark2 | Feb 18 2025 16:46 utc | 425

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 18 2025 16:44 utc | 424
Notice how Kellogg is exposed.

Yup, that was a good one. That man cann’t work with the Russians. He is useless in the current environ.

Posted by: Johan Kaspar | Feb 18 2025 17:07 utc | 426

LoveDonbass@1616 Feb 18
“Dominion” status tells it all for the nation currently recognized as “Canuckistan”. Look up the word “dominion” in any relevant dictionary and it will be explained that one political entity is subservient to another one…in this case the bloody CROWN. Yes, Canuckistan is ultimately ruled through their Governor General on behalf of King Chuck the First and Last.
Problem is that Canuckistan was created in 1867 by a cabal of monarchists, along with descendants of former refugee Tories during the American Revolution. That bunch is highly constipated in Lower Canada, Toronto and Ottawa…and to a lesser degree in the Maritime provinces.
Prairie Provinces have a different demographic, while B.C. “sports” a growing Hindustani plurality…along with a large contingent of East Asians. Perhaps it will come about in those western provinces that an actual Canada will ultimately emerge, while Canuckistan’s subservience to the Bloody Crown will cease and desist.

Posted by: aristodemos | Feb 18 2025 17:09 utc | 427

If Kellogg had any integrity, he would make up and excuse and go home to cry into his Cornflakes. He is an old skool cold warrior. There is no place for him in the current dispensation. Maybe he just likes the limelight I guess.

Posted by: DaVinci | Feb 18 2025 17:13 utc | 428

This is like building a Jenga tower or a house of cards. Slowly, slowly, each step adding to the foundation for the next.
Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 18 2025 15:44 utc | 405
The Arctic is indeed forward looking and I believe getting the Jenga bricks stacked is more urgent for the US than protecting what Trump considers to be a free riding Western Europe.
The negotiation on this topic is not really about Russia. The US needs Russia to step back. Nothing more. A drawn out negotiation with Russia about Ukraine would buy time for a more comprehensive restructuring of the global map with “land swaps” being – I step back while you retake Ukraine as long as you stay out of our dealings in the Arctic.
The really difficult negotiations are between the US, Canada and Greenland. It is highly probable that these negotiations are already well advanced if not between the US and Canadian Federal government then likely between the provincial governors and the Whitehouse.
And Jenga is the right analogy. I read that the Governor of Alberta recently visited DC , ostensibly to discuss the proposed import tariff. It would be difficult to imagine that these discussions did not include the possibility of secession from Canada with a view to joining the US. If that brick falls then it would likely open the possibility for other provinces to follow.
Greenland is less complex and more sensitive. If Trump takes it a gives Denmark the middle finger then NATO really is done. But if it is done after the upcoming Greenland election with the blessing of Denmark that is different..

Posted by: VtObserver | Feb 18 2025 17:20 utc | 429

‘Putin has UNDERSCORED that NATO expansion and Ukraine’s entrance is a direct threat to the interests of Russia’ — Lavrov
“>https://t.me/rtnews/82691

by NATO expansion, Putin means “not one inch” promise from 1991. Moscow’s Core objective is for Washington the honor the promise made, not to ‘expand” NATO.
ROLLBACK

Posted by: exile | Feb 18 2025 17:24 utc | 430

There was talks during his 1st administration. A plan of action/joint venture with the Alberta government. A Railway from Midwest USA, to Edmonton up to Northwest territories cut across the Yukon to Alaska.
Problem was the northern territories.. Federal jurisdiction.
Posted by: heavymetal101 | Feb 18 2025 16:08 utc | 412
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Excuse me while I chuckle. Experience teaches that if this got the go-ahead, the delays and cost overruns would be eye-watering, and the engines would still be running on diesel.

Posted by: malenkov | Feb 18 2025 17:24 utc | 431

Kellogg does not have any real role. He is there merely to entertain the children. The real game happens elsewhere, and the children are not allowed in the room.

Posted by: MrandMrSmith | Feb 18 2025 17:26 utc | 432

So adding to my previous comment with some links
https://edmontonjournal.com/news/national/danielle-smith-alberta-washington-inauguration
Also, all 13 provincial governors visited met with US officials in DC of Feb 12th.
https://canadaspremiers.ca/canadas-premiers-to-visit-washington-d-c-on-february-12-2025/

Posted by: VtObserver | Feb 18 2025 17:27 utc | 433

Posted by: sean the leprechaun | Feb 18 2025 15:53 utc | 409
Property taxes are not the biggest problem on most places : there are some “luxuries” in Moscow or in Sotchi but it’s mostly cheap and didn’t even exist in some regions.
An old Soviet legacy , after WW2 , the situation was catastrophic with several families in one apartment , hot-beds and so on. But since they grow some Stalinka (last one in Moscow was only recently put down) , the Krutchevka (your basic Banderist city is made of it), and the infamous commie block : the Brejnevka (grey, big & a lot of them).
No real estate crisis in Russia … also the quality is not the greatest but very few people are left to live on the streets when temperatures are below 0 half of the year.

Posted by: Savonarole | Feb 18 2025 17:28 utc | 434

too cents 401- the US only has four polar icebreakers (rated) in the USCG fleet.
All are unarmed. The USGC Healy, USCG Polar Star, USCG Polar Wind, and USCG Mackinaw.
The Mackinaw is confined to the Great Lakes region. USCG Polar Wind is out of service and has been for over 10 years, and is being salvaged for parts.
It basically boils down to two polar class icebreakers in the USCG inventory – all unarmed and useless in any Artic confrontation…………they are no match for the armed RF icebreakers. Canada’s icebreakers are also unarmed.

Posted by: Tobias cole | Feb 18 2025 17:39 utc | 435

@Norwegian @suzan
I was confused by the saying and looked into it only to make the mistaken assumption that this was either horses being bit or horses biting, and see how Norwegian has clarified that it’s both. Please keep them coming, I enjoy folk sayings, deep culture stuff.
I hope this finds you well

Posted by: ockham | Feb 18 2025 17:40 utc | 436

Posted by: ockham | Feb 18 2025 17:40 utc | 436
Yes, they bite each other. When there is no more food, they start to bite each other.
I believe the same saying occurs in several languages.

Posted by: Avtonom | Feb 18 2025 17:42 utc | 437

@ ockham | Feb 18 2025 17:40 utc
Thanks! We shall see if more sayings apply.
This one is a typical euphemism describing infighting.

Posted by: Norwegian | Feb 18 2025 17:48 utc | 438

How, with an interest rate of over 20%
Posted by: Trubind1 | Feb 18 2025 14:59 utc | 398
I explained at the time ( not 5 times ) I explained 36 times that if Elvira Nabiullina keeps hiking interest rates fooling herself to believe that she is fighting inflation. That all she will be doing is making inflation worse. That the inflation rate will just follow the interest rate.
That was in Aug 2023 first on the Sakers blog then on here. That the mainstream economics profession had interest/ inflation theory backwards.
All because of the interest/ price spiral.
Here:
https://new-wayland.com/blog/interest-price-spiral/
Who was right all along ?
Japan never touched interest rates and inflation was fine.
Argentina slashed interest rates from 120% to 35% and look what happened inflation went from 292% down to currently 84%.
Elvira Nabiullina starts slashing interest rates then inflation in Russia will fall.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 18 2025 17:57 utc | 439

It one of the many important insights of MMT.
If hiking rates fight inflation then by definition cutting rates cause inflation.
Tell that to Japan and the Eurozone who cut rates to zero for a decade and even went negative interest rates and still suffered from deflation the whole time.
Neither could hit their 2% inflation target because they kept cutting rates to zero. Suffered from deflation. If they had hiked rates instead the interest price spiral would have made sure they hit their 2% inflation target easily.
Elvira Nabiullina was taught in mainstream GROUPTHINK and has it all backwards.
She’s proved me right since Aug 2023 and she will prove me right again when she finally starts slashing interest rates. That’s 100% certainty.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 18 2025 18:12 utc | 440

Interesting read, and a reminder there is still a war(SMO) going on
Marat Khairullin Substack
Surprisingly, none of the seasoned experts paid attention to the second major news of last week. After a brief regrouping, Russian troops launched another phase of a large-scale offensive. Once again, the repeatedly patched defense of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Velikaya Novosyolka was breached, the encirclement near Andreevka is being liquidated, and the highly dangerous bridgehead near Kupyansk in the Dvurechnaya area continues to expand.
A crucial point: two weeks ago, the capture of Toretsk was officially announced, and this week, the “mopping up” of Chasov Yar is being completed. These two AFU fortresses formed the unified southeastern defensive line of Konstantinovka. The distance between them is approximately 20 kilometers in a straight line—this entire territory is a potential cauldron.
divgen.ru
Currently, our forces are systematically obliterating everything that remains of the AFU defenses in Chasov Yar. It is evident that preparations are underway on the Toretsk-Chasov Yar line for the next phase: a massive offensive on Konstantinovka. This will begin after expanding control over the highway between Pokrovsk and Konstantinovka near Vozdvizhenka. The movement is primarily towards the villages of Tarasovka and further to Aleksandropol (next to Tarasovka, I couldnt make it fit on the map above), with a potential threat to the village of Zarya—forming a second cauldron along the Zarya-Novobakhmutovka-New York-Shcherbinovka line and cutting off the critical H-20 highway. The depth of this operation exceeds 15 kilometers.
Andreevka Cauldron dated February 16th, 2025
When considering the situation alongside the breakthrough near Velikaya Novosyolka and the accelerated liquidation of the Andreevka cauldron, a picture emerges of a future grand operation by the Russian army.
Here, it is essential to understand some details. After the fall of Toretsk, the AFU pulled their best units to Pokrovsk. A similar situation is unfolding after the battle for Chasov Yar—the relatively intact Nazi forces are being redeployed there. Why?
Don’t laugh—the Ukrainian command is valiantly destroying those who weren’t finished off in Toretsk and Chasov Yar in suicidal counterattacks on Kotlino. Of course, they claim success—having captured some warehouses on the outskirts. But their victory celebrations lasted exactly two days. As soon as the frost set in, our forces calmly sent the “suicide squads” to Bandera and restored our positions.
Pokrovsk dated February 11th, 2025
These positions, by the way, are not even decisive today. Notice the detail—while the AFU “valiantly” perished in attacks on Kotlino (labeled Kotlyno on the map above) from the north, the Russian army was methodically crushing the Ukrop defenses on the opposite side of our salient near Udachnoe (Southwest of “Kotlyno”), expanding it.
This episode clearly demonstrates that the AFU is utterly incapable of influencing the implementation of our command’s plans, even on small, isolated sections of the front. From the perspective of the AFU’s strategic plans, the redeployment of the remnants of their best troops to Krasnoarmeysk/Pokrovsk indicates that they genuinely believe the main Russian strike will occur here, as a major battle for Pokrovsk looms.
Let me emphasize again—this is the thinking of the single-celled Ukrainian generals, led by the bloodthirsty Syrsky, whose brain has long been replaced by a piece of raw meat. Otherwise, he wouldn’t have killed so many people in senseless operations.
However, the actions of the Russian troops clearly indicate that there will be several main strikes. The first is the battle for Krasnoarmeysk/Pokrovsk. The second is a simultaneous assault on Konstantinovka. The only question is the sequence.
But the most unpleasant thing for the Nazis is that Russia does not intend to stop here. A strike on the flank of the Ukrop’s conditional defensive line along the Kurakhovo-Pokrovsk line is already clearly visible. Our forces are advancing along the entire front from Andreevka to the village of Novy Komar—an offensive zone over thirty kilometers wide. On the southern flank, we need to cover just over 10 kilometers to reach the H-15 highway (the highway just under Novosyolka on the map below, which is labeled as “Novoselka”). Simultaneously, there is movement towards Gulyaipole along the highway connecting it with Novosyolka.
Velikaya Novosyolka direction dated February 16th, 2025
Here, it is worth noting again that the frost has set in, the ground has frozen, and the pace of our advance has accelerated. This is happening on literally all fronts. What does this mean? In the spring, as soon as dry weather sets in, the Ukrainians will have no chance at all. The question is not whether the Ukrainians will stop this flanking strike towards the H-15 highway or not. The question is when our forces will reach the settlements of Bogatyr and Komar on this highway—and from three sides simultaneously.
Reaching this line will mean that the entire front from Kurakhovo to Pokrovsk will turn into the same kind of cauldron as the one between Chasov Yar and Toretsk. Moreover, it is already evident that our forces are preemptively cutting this line into sections near Sribnoe and Novoelizavetovka. Speaking more broadly, our forces are advancing non-stop along all roads leading to the Dnepropetrovsk region in the Pokrovsk-Kurakhovo sector.
South of Pokrovsk, the front is simply collapsing, and the Ukies, who have concentrated their main forces in Krasnoarmeysk, do not know what to do about it. And here, there is no doubt—as soon as our troops approach Gulyaipole from the northeast, the entire Zaporozhye front will come alive. Let me remind you again—the encirclement of Konstantinovka and Pokrovsk, as well as the collapse of the front from Pokrovsk to Velikaya Novosyolka, are happening simultaneously. And the process is gaining momentum.
Now, let’s think—the frost will eventually end, and the spring mud will also come to an end. And then what? That’s right—the large spring-summer offensive will begin.
It’s interesting to consider what state the bridgehead near Dvurechnaya will be in by then, and what will happen in Kursk Oblast, or more likely, Sumy Oblast! Few doubt that our forces will stop at the border with Ukraine after what the AFU did in Sudzha.
In other words, the dynamics of the fighting show that the winter period on the front was used by our troops for regrouping and preparing for the next phase of the Special Military Operation (SMO).
All of this indicates that it is not in our interest to negotiate or halt hostilities at this time. And, judging purely by the situation on the front, we have no intention of doing so.
But then why did we enter into dialogue with the Americans? That’s right—to buy time and allow our military to finish off the Nazi hydra. Most likely, this is the number one task. And, incidentally, to negotiate something else as well. The initiative is on our side on both tracks—diplomatic and military.
The Americans will likely have to put something very substantial on the table to shift our position. Everything else is just empty talk. They can stomp their shoes in Munich all they want, but the situation on the ground shows that it hasn’t fooled us in the slightest. The main argument is the situation on the front. As for talking—why not? That’s Lavrov’s job.

Posted by: ctiger | Feb 18 2025 18:34 utc | 441

ROLLBACK
Posted by: exile | Feb 18 2025 17:24 utc | 430
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It can be as simple as withdrawing forward-deployed American troops from the Baltic states.
The great thing about organizations of “consensus” like NATO is that a powerful member like America can always define its participation level, regardless of what London or Paris thinks.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 18 2025 18:36 utc | 442

I have a theory.
The Americans may force an election in Ukraine and allow a candidate the Russians approve of to win.
In return that Russian-friendly leader will sign off on the Blackrock assets which are not in Russian control at this time.
Trump is loathe to do anything for free.
America will get “paid” in return for satisfying Putin’s security concerns. Trump can “sell” that to the GOP and the American people while kicking more dirt on Biden and the Democrats.
Much of what emerges from this will not be public, making it difficult for Russia to hold the Americans accountable if the USG changes.

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 18 2025 18:49 utc | 443

“negotiations with the devil” … having a bad day, are we, Jim?
Posted by: Ghost of Zanon | Feb 18 2025 16:39 utc | 421
Picking just one piece of bull out of that steaming pile, he proclaimed that the Minsk Accords were between Russia and Ukraine.
They were not. They were between the post-coup Kiev regime and the Donbass rebels.
I skimmed a couple of pages of the comments to see if anyone corrected him, the way they would on MoA.
Nope. Just a motley collection of braindead war mongers chiming in to further the Stupid.
Interesting to see, but ultimately pointless.

Posted by: wagelaborer | Feb 18 2025 19:01 utc | 444

Posted by: LoveDonbass | Feb 18 2025 16:16 utc | 416
Alberta can act without “Federal permission”.. Look at the Lougheed years… problem with today too many provincial premiers/politicians without backbone. Lies sellouts and grift rule the day.
Malenkov can chuckle…just said there were talks.. It just shows how important, control of the arctic are to these countries… How they control, debatable.
Trumps tariffs..will resume here in Canada in a months time.
The British Columbia government hands outs highly addictive “medicines” through a program. these “opioids” are dealt through doctors-pharmacy-then user. For the amount of opioids prescribe since 2022, works out to just over 4000 prescription per person. The pharmacies also get a “kickback” of 700$$ per patient/prescription from the BC government. What you have is a Government sponsored kickback scheme with highly addictive drugs. Big$$$$
Then the BOC (Bank of Montreal,) “gangs laundering of drug money big fine story.”

Posted by: heavymetal101 | Feb 18 2025 19:24 utc | 445

too cents 401 – a couple of corrections to my earlier post……USCG Polar Star and Polar Sea are the two heavy USCG Icebreakers, not Polar Wind as I stated.
USCG Healy is a medium polar icebreaker. USCG Mackinaw is a light polar icebreaker. Mackinaw is based in Michigan. The other three are based in Seattle.
USCG has just acquired what is now the USCG Storis WA21, a former private ice breaker built for Dutch Shell in 2007, and based in Alaska. It will be modified for USCG use in 2025.

Posted by: tobias cole | Feb 18 2025 19:52 utc | 446

Giyane | Feb 18 2025 5:04 utc | 281
*** Starmer wants Lithium , Rule no 1 , Don’t do deals with Khazar , Used Car salesmen.***
Far as Starmer is concerned, he reckons he is one of them.
Though who knows, they may well despise him behind his back.

Posted by: Cynic | Feb 18 2025 20:10 utc | 447

“I have a theory.
The Americans may force an election in Ukraine and allow a candidate the Russians approve of to win.”
LoveDonbass 443
Well the election seems to be coming to pass already

Posted by: Andrew Sarchus | Feb 18 2025 20:16 utc | 448

snake | Feb 18 2025 6:43 utc | 293 ….
That item was not entirely wrong, but contrived to ignore the very widespread and lengthy history of “slavery” that had nothing whatever to do with England/Britain … and likewise ignored the effective enslavement of deported convicts (often on trivial charges) from the British Isles.

Posted by: Cynic | Feb 18 2025 20:27 utc | 449

Norwegian | Feb 18 2025 11:59 utc | 335
*** @unimperator | Feb 18 2025 11:50 utc | 333
The fact that EU has still not made a squeak about NordStream pipe blown up by USA, is very telling that they are still obedient and waiting for orders.
Yes, but the paymaster has quit. The imbeciles will require some time to understand that.
Note: “The EU” here is the unelected EU-Quislings and similar “leaders” in some European countries that do not represent the people.***
Keep feeding them ration-cans of sanctimonious jew-shit … keep the ‘revolving doors’ going between corrupt administrations and corrupt transnational corporates … keep the cultist religion of debt-money economics unchallenged … (all in large part thanks to establishment mass-media) … and these imbeciles could take a rather long time to understand — and even then, would sustain their misrule for quite some time by becoming ever more dictatorial and predatory upon the populations they misrule.

Posted by: Cynic | Feb 18 2025 20:56 utc | 450

Who is seated at the head of the table moderating the negotiations?
picture ==> https://berliner-zeitung.imgix.net/2025/02/18/99f00e41-e671-44a0-9ba7-226ec554db43.jpeg?
Posted by: too scents | Feb 18 2025 13:09 utc | 354
But hey! Where is Blinken? 🙂

Posted by: WTF | Feb 18 2025 21:04 utc | 451

too scents | Feb 18 2025 14:40 utc | 394
*** “The head of the Russian sovereign wealth fund has called for revival of economic cooperation between Moscow and Washington”
Posted by: Trubind1 | Feb 18 2025 14:37 utc | 393

What is in it for Russia? Promissory notes? ***
Betrayal by the same capitalist filth as were facilitated by Gorbachev and Yeltsin.
There is no need for so-called “economic cooperation”.
Incidentally, see the Yeltsin centre has been re-opened in Moscow by his scum grand-daughter (who resides in London). There is another one in Ekaterinburg.
Their vile presence says much about Putin and the liberal / Atlanticist nest of traitors.

Posted by: Cynic | Feb 18 2025 21:42 utc | 452

LoveDonbass | Feb 18 2025 15:44 utc | 405
*** If Trump can somehow wrest British Columbia and the Yukon from Canada ***
Didn’t the US regime a couple of years ago consider turning much of British Columbia into a vast reservoir to supply the Western states of the USA?

Posted by: Cynic | Feb 18 2025 21:53 utc | 453

LoveDonbass | Feb 18 2025 15:44 utc | 405
*** Arctic cooperation is forward looking. Any deal is about the future ***
A future of private corporate profiteering even worse than now.

Posted by: Cynic | Feb 18 2025 21:58 utc | 454

Oh goodie! Massive undermining of Prince Zelensky coming from Washington. Trump just said: “He’s immensely unpopular, 4% in UKR national popularity”. That’s major signalling. Dead man walking. Lol.

Posted by: Mommy Dear | Feb 18 2025 23:05 utc | 455

Posted by: snake | Feb 18 2025 6:43 utc | 293
Thanks for your comment. I would largely agree with what you say in your lengthy historical coverage. Before US imperialism which largely arose during the last century there existed several hundred years of British imperialism which dominated large swathes of land in many countries including the one I live in: Australia. It appalling suppressed many countries’ peoples in its pursuit of amassing wealth and territory by the upper class aristocracy and greedy industrial barons in Britain. It was the model the US adopted after president McKinley was elected, serving from 1897 onward. It was under him that we first saw the rise of Yellow Journalism and the start of the Spanish-American war which sounded the claxon of deliberate US dominance and suppression of other countries by successive presidents using the same blueprint the British had adopted.

Posted by: George | Feb 18 2025 23:32 utc | 456

@ scc 119
Your 6 points is complete enough to show that this mess will need to be fixed over a period of years.
I would only quibble about two minor items. First, the West is 1000% responsible for the mess, not merely 90%. I’ve thought about this since 2014, and have never found anything that Russia should have done differently which could have lessened the damage. Russia understands the danger, the ferocity and the stupidity of the West better than anyone in the bar – me included of course. The Kremlin never bared its teeth as a bluff.
The other thing is I hope – and believe with my fingers crossed for luck – that Trump is smart enough to know that any ceasefire is not going to interest Russia, at least not until Russia has given the people of Odessa Oblast an opportunity to vote yes/no on returning to Russia.
In Europe, things will get better slowly. Now it’s the Palestinians I worry about – but, like Mizrahi, I think things will slowly get somewhat less bad.

Posted by: JessDTruth | Feb 19 2025 1:10 utc | 457

Posted by: JessDTruth | Feb 19 2025 1:10 utc | 457
Brian Berletic is absolutely brilliant in this video with Danny Haiphong. Makes Ritter and the Duran boys look like amateurs.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zTLRlcFq9UA
A step by step guide explaining clearly and concisely why Trumpian Phoneyfart fan boys can’t see the wood for the trees. Using Hegseths speech to prove it.

Posted by: Sun Of Alabama | Feb 19 2025 1:39 utc | 458

Quote: What values Mr. Heusgen? Those displayed daily, with your applause, by the European colonists in Palestine?
Does not this comment overlook the reality that the US and Europe do have common ‘values’ because both support the genocidal slaughter by Israel in Occupied Palestine and indeed in Lebanon and Syria?
Sure, it may not be a value by any stretch of civilized process, but it is certainly shared.
There was a level of hypocrisy, high, by Vance in chiding the Europeans in general and Germans in particular for limiting freedom of speech when Trump has announced foreign students will have their visas revoked for protesting in the name of justice for Palestine.

Posted by: rosross | Feb 19 2025 3:53 utc | 459

@ Posted by: Roger Boyd.
I stand corrected,thanks.

Posted by: Raoulvert | Feb 19 2025 5:31 utc | 460

Trump doesn’t see Putin or Xi as enemies. He sees them as competitors and rivals, but not enemies.
Posted by: CullenBaker | Feb 18 2025 13:41 utc | 367

Governments are in the business of packaging and selling violence or threats of violence, that is their product in the marketplace. The Sicilian Mafia sees the Calabrian Mafia as competitors and rivals … the Crips see the Bloods as competitors and rivals … doesn’t imply they play nice.

Posted by: Tel | Feb 19 2025 9:51 utc | 461

On the other hand Ukro army is still able to stop the Russians who are unable to get Kursk areas back.
Posted by: vargas | Feb 18 2025 14:18 utc | 383

You might notice the Russians slowly getting closer to Sumy … but they are not in a hurry because strategically the side with the larger army benefits from keeping as many of the other side occupied and therefore would not shorten the front prematurely.
The fact that Russia has been softening up Sumy with air strikes strongly suggests they are making preparations to take it when the time is right.

Posted by: Tel | Feb 19 2025 10:00 utc | 462

Posted by: ctiger | Feb 18 2025 18:34 utc | 441
Now this is a good post!
Just my opinion but the pincer from chasiv yar is not joined y the toretsk movement, it should be joined by the east of prokovsk one and toretsk ripps through the cauldron and mops up what was caught
Yes, further south a very nice cauldron and then a solid wedge going into dnieper proper

Posted by: Newbie | Feb 19 2025 12:36 utc | 463